@@ferwakai9145 using the word 'real' to describe things is in my opinion somewhat disrespectful to the current drivers. I doubt you'll see "playstation" drivers pulling 5G in the corners or competing at the front of the field - Jann Mardenborough as an example never made it above 9th in F2. I agree with you that these cars were better and harder to drive, but people who cry about the sport today and describe the sport in the 90s as "real f1" annoy me
@@azynkron Llegó a la Fórmula Uno por el apoyo de Honda, se ve que Lotus no pasaba su mejor momento a nivel economico. Como seguidor que siempre fui de esta marca, me habría gustado a Mauricio Guguelmin o Iván Capelli como compañeros de Ayrton Senna y de esa forma pelear con más chances el Mundial de Constructores. Se apostó por Nakajima, lo respeto como persona - Alguien muy cercano a Dios se dijo alguna vez-, pero sin las condiciones o el talento que por esas épocas tenían los jóvenes Mauricio Guguelmin, Iván Capelli o Alex Caffi. Talvez y es una opinión personal tres pilotos con enorme futuro, aunque en escuderías poco competitivas o con coches poco fiables como la Ferrari que manejo Capelli en 1992. Saludo grande desde Uruguay.
@@R9naldo No, I mean that today rookies have 19-22 years old. Next year de Vries will have 28 years and we consider him as a old driver. Today it's almost impossible to make a debut as 34 years old driver.
Late 80s early 90s spark showers were awesome. Even in moments when the racing isnt exciting, I enjoy watching these cars throw sparks as they bottom out or shoot flames on decel.
What a beautiful track that was ! I heard this week that Matezitsch has been considering to get back to his 2005 plan, to connect the current Red Bull Ring with part of the old Westschleife again. THAT would be great. Maybe even the next best thing after the original Ostereichring, which will probably will never return to it's original design...
MassiveNoob You have to remember that this a mounted camera unit so the quality would be worse. If you look at a 80s movie camera, they have a lot more quality than these...
Definitely, these were modified Sony CCTV cameras, nothing off the shelf then. I still think this is the best camera position but then I would, it was my job.
I've stopped watching F1 about 5 years ago but I've just came back and it's great. There's a bunch of onboard videos out there with no commentary just engine sounds and team radio. F1 is back, just wish there were more competitive teams other than Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari
Oh you have no idea how pleased people would be if you released the whole race from Satoru's onboard cam! Hell even just 15 min would be amazing. His onboards from '87 are fantastic and some of the first race cam footage from F1.
You really have no clue, huh? Driving F1 is incrediby demanding, both physically and mentally. Today's F1 cars are so fast and have such an excessive amount of downforce, just going through corners generates a painful amount of g-force. For an hour and a half.
seriously who on earth except japanese thought satoru nakajima as a great driver? i will watch F1 no matter what happen as long as it aired on my country local tv. F1 nowadays is just what is supposed to be. their technological advancement need to be step forward from anything. its nonsense if they get back to old school tech. there is NASCAR for that purpose. the only disappointment for me is the sound
Ooh I never get tired of listening to the old 80s V6 Turbos .... such nice tone. This video could have been longer, maybe go for 2 laps so we can listen for a good 4 or 5 minutes :)
The layout of the circuit is so similar to the modern one, it's mad to see the different terrain, the hills looked so much bigger and the corners that didn't change looked so much longer
In this era, drivers must have a big bulge with this pleasurable engine noise and this track with a lot of fast corners and a lot of adrenaline, not like nowadays who drivers juste save their tyres and gas
Saving gas and tyres is exactly what it was about in those days. I was a bigger fan then, but f1 definitely better today in terms of performance, effort and perfection.
jeeez what a ride,real cars in real racetracks for real men,it looks like a warzone with all that smoke and sparks of exotic materials..need balls to drive these babies around...
"Everyone is saying that F1 was great at that time, but no one is saying what was great about it ??" As someone who's old enough to remember F1 back then, what made it great back then was the atmosphere, the drama. I'm not just talking about the drama between drivers fighting for the title, but the drama from just watching them drive. The lack of driver aids meant they were fighting their cars all the way. The lack of gyro-stabilising in the onboard cameras meant you could "feel" every bump in the track, you had a better idea of what the driver is seeing, you could see the wheel jerking around, you could see the driver correcting at every corner, you could hear the wheelspin as they accelerate. I'm not by any means saying it's gone in today's F1, but as a spectator you just don't feel it as much now. Modern technology has "tamed" F1 a little too much for the viewer. Just watch these classic onboards, find the video of Senna wrestling his Mclaren around Monaco, then compare it to this year's onboard. I know today's F1 cars are much faster, but these old cars "feel" faster when you're watching onboard...
killakanz gaming Great comment and observation.I agree its too sanitised, now. They may be faster, but the spectacle and ,obviously, the engine noise of todays cars are sadly lacking. But, thats all you normally get from most of todays fans “yeah, but they’re so much faster” They should have been re running the 80s snd 90s grand prix, whilst this fiasco is playing itself out!
Hoss You young guys have no sense of humour, do you?🙄 Just because things change and evolve doesn’t mean that they are more enjoyable.I get far more enjoyment driving my modified 21 and 22 year old Evos than any modern car. I don’t recall asking you to bow down to me, but if you have somehow construed having a differing opinion as bowing down, then i feel this conversation has plateaued. Good day to you, sir.
kristofevo it’s annoying to always see the same comments how “f1 is boring now, used to be better before” but I suppose it’s a generational thing 🤷♂️ Have a good day too man
yeah, those cars are painful to drive. I heard that Senna's Mclaren had a gearbox problem during his home GP at Interlagos, and he had to hold his shifter that is stuck in 6th gear to not break.
nope, todays f1 cars have equal to more power than the Lotus 99T which was used in 1987. The Ferrari SF90 in the last stage had ~ 1050bhp. But the Lotus was way more brutal and lighter compared to todays cars. For sure it sounded 1000 times better :)
I live very close to this track and I heard some rumors that they want to rebuilt the back section for endurance racing and stuff. Also saw some construction work beeing done after the start straight. Maybe we'll see a comeback to a similar layout ;)
rummsdala what’s it like listening to F1 as a blind person? Of course the old track was massively different, with huge sweeping curves in most corners and a huge average speed. The new track is shorter, slower, many more tight corners and has only remnants of the old track.
@@mTwMarco Y'all need to accept that times change. It's not like we're gonna stick with the same thing forever haha. Although manual gearboxes are nice and actually prove skill, the drivers already have the balls to go through corners faster than no other.
@@corat248 yeah I also agree with your opinion. But to change F1 to be more driver-focused again wouldn't be such a bad idea. For sure there never will be a manual-transmission-comeback. the first thing that has to go is the "saving fuel"-shit. let these drivers push as much as they want.
Idea. During F1 season there should be one historical race. With old cars from 80's or early 90's. Double points to score. It would be nice to see current drivers in those old cars :)
In the 80s when it was turbocharged, you had to really be on the limit like once you hit a certain rev the turbo would come in and spin the wheels like no tcs like now or the power
Flynn Jacobs The modern cars don’t have TCS, and modern turbo technology combined with hybrid systems makes lag very minimal, but the cars have so much low-end torque that the drivers really need good throttle control to avoid spinning up the rear tires.
The same camera in Senna Lotus would have shown a complete different driving-style. Nakajima is driving very smooth and It seems that he was a more passive driver.
What an emotional video, I feel now nostalgic and sad...those days are gone and F1 is not anymore the same.
That old track was simply amazing...
Real drivers, not like nowdays where they are just PlayStation'drivers.
But the new Austria ring wasnt much diffrent from this
@@jwork5680 This is a lot faster, too many slow corners now. The corners are more or less curves than corners.
@@blackflagqwerty this track is also slow imo
@@ferwakai9145 using the word 'real' to describe things is in my opinion somewhat disrespectful to the current drivers. I doubt you'll see "playstation" drivers pulling 5G in the corners or competing at the front of the field - Jann Mardenborough as an example never made it above 9th in F2. I agree with you that these cars were better and harder to drive, but people who cry about the sport today and describe the sport in the 90s as "real f1" annoy me
Today is amazing to think that Nakajima in 1987 was a rookie as a 34 years old driver.
Well.. it didn't get better than his 12th position in 1987. In the last years he retired more from races than finish them.
@@azynkron Llegó a la Fórmula Uno por el apoyo de Honda, se ve que Lotus no pasaba su mejor momento a nivel economico. Como seguidor que siempre fui de esta marca, me habría gustado a Mauricio Guguelmin o Iván Capelli como compañeros de Ayrton Senna y de esa forma pelear con más chances el Mundial de Constructores. Se apostó por Nakajima, lo respeto como persona - Alguien muy cercano a Dios se dijo alguna vez-, pero sin las condiciones o el talento que por esas épocas tenían los jóvenes Mauricio Guguelmin, Iván Capelli o Alex Caffi. Talvez y es una opinión personal tres pilotos con enorme futuro, aunque en escuderías poco competitivas o con coches poco fiables como la Ferrari que manejo Capelli en 1992. Saludo grande desde Uruguay.
Anyone is a rookie in their first year of racing. What are you trying to say? How is he supposed to be an experienced driver without any experience?
@@R9naldo No, I mean that today rookies have 19-22 years old. Next year de Vries will have 28 years and we consider him as a old driver. Today it's almost impossible to make a debut as 34 years old driver.
@@R9naldothe fact that he was still able to debut at 34 you absolutely dullard
What a fantastic circuit. Beautiful gradient changes.
Old time when a F1 car was a kart with a crazy engine
boomer
@@mizur77 BOOM💥ER🔥🔥
@@mizur77 BoOmEr
what do you know about the engine differences?
Scary engine you mean
Late 80s early 90s spark showers were awesome. Even in moments when the racing isnt exciting, I enjoy watching these cars throw sparks as they bottom out or shoot flames on decel.
these classics are great! bring on more
中嶋悟のオンボードは これが一番好きです
エステルライヒリンク超高速サーキット
ギア数えてます
What a beautiful track that was ! I heard this week that Matezitsch has been considering to get back to his 2005 plan, to connect the current Red Bull Ring with part of the old Westschleife again. THAT would be great. Maybe even the next best thing after the original Ostereichring, which will probably will never return to it's original design...
This video lets you appreciate how far camera technology has come.
MassiveNoob You have to remember that this a mounted camera unit so the quality would be worse. If you look at a 80s movie camera, they have a lot more quality than these...
MassiveNoob I actually like this quality with older clips
I wish I could say the same for F1
@@SuperTechno2012 he talks about progress, and nowadays mounted cameras are significantly better than this.
Definitely, these were modified Sony CCTV cameras, nothing off the shelf then. I still think this is the best camera position but then I would, it was my job.
the old layout was very cool. the corners have been more flowing and faster
can we have this layout back
Present circuits are less challenging & Interesting. Yet cars are more technical and rely less on drivers skills.
Nope due to safety. Have to give and take to keep drivers alive.
@Andrew Ongais Yea that track predates those regulations. I like the layout. I use this track in Automobilista 2 with the classic F1 cars a lot.
@@johnhodge1263 now sims and the real thing are different but driving both in sims, the new one is more fjn and more challenging
The new layout is much better than this
Love manual transmission
Why?
@@552MB REAL DRIVING
This is not manual either
H pattern shifts!
@@552MB it needed a lot of more skills than paddles and every mistake was costly.
Back to 80’s and 90’s where there were many legendary drivers compete and the quality of the camera was so original
'80s and '90s.
Back when everything was cool
That engine sound along with the rushing wind noise 👌
Awesome engine sounds and gear changes and steering inputs.
On manual rack! 🤯
Awesome lap,awesome engine-sound,awsome circuit(the old one).
Yeah that circuit was great!
Absolutely amazing track. High speed corners, uphills and downhills everywhere. A circuit made it for real men and real drivers.
same
nice
And nothing but a steel wall to greet you if you lose traction!
I've stopped watching F1 about 5 years ago but I've just came back and it's great. There's a bunch of onboard videos out there with no commentary just engine sounds and team radio. F1 is back, just wish there were more competitive teams other than Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari
what a glorious video. thanks for the upload!
Oh you have no idea how pleased people would be if you released the whole race from Satoru's onboard cam! Hell even just 15 min would be amazing. His onboards from '87 are fantastic and some of the first race cam footage from F1.
NAKAJIMA SAN！！！
Awesome footage!
This is the father of Kazuki Nakajima. Thats why Kazuki has the same helmet design.
yes!! indeed!Kazuki drove in f1 with Williams some couple of years ago, but not with the same results than his father
No kidding
Marc moulin-traffort you’re thinking of Kamui right?
@@kyler2744 no, he is right kazuki drove for williams in 2010 i think, teammate of Bruno Senna if im not mistaken...
@@kyler2744 Kamui Kobayashi
Those old turbos. Awesome!
Back when F1 was great comments coming in..... 3....2....1
back when f1 is great. this satoru guy is really great driver unlike f1 driver nowadays who drive rc cars
You really have no clue, huh? Driving F1 is incrediby demanding, both physically and mentally. Today's F1 cars are so fast and have such an excessive amount of downforce, just going through corners generates a painful amount of g-force. For an hour and a half.
+Ze Rubenator i think you miss the joke.
rockzs74r
Oh was it sarcasm? So hard to tell you know.
seriously who on earth except japanese thought satoru nakajima as a great driver? i will watch F1 no matter what happen as long as it aired on my country local tv. F1 nowadays is just what is supposed to be. their technological advancement need to be step forward from anything. its nonsense if they get back to old school tech. there is NASCAR for that purpose. the only disappointment for me is the sound
Superb camera shots & Sound.
素晴らしい映像ですね。この時に中嶋さんが付けさせられた車載カメラは重量が10kg近くあったと聞いたことがあります。そんな重量物を空力も考慮しない形状で右側に張り出して付けられればウェイトハンディどころか直進の安定性も阻害されたでしょう。しかし、そのカメラがあったからこそ、日本人はF1で走る中嶋さんの雄姿を見ることができたわけですね。
Que nostalgia me da ver estos vídeos, cuando la F1 era mas emocionante :) y que recuerdos los Lotus Honda
What a beautiful track it was back then
Love this!, pls make it again!
In hindsight, ths onboard camera is amazing. (1987)
I'd rather all future aero regulations be allowed to go crazy but then...Drivers have to deal with a clutch and an H-pattern shifter!
crazier aero = worse racing
Deal with?
Gear stick back to F1!
No power steering btw
The Sound is awesome! (:
Back in the day where the circuits were fast & flowing - none of the chicanes that plague many of the modern circuits of today.
AMAZING OLD SCHOOL TRACK!!!
Hammertrack ! superb onboard-clip !
The years when jump starts were not forbidden.
They were but they were understandable because there was not idle set in F1 engine.
Pastor Maldonado at Spa 2012:
@@marguskiis7711 well that makes it less fair
Good japanese driver!!! Fantastic track!!!
Esto si son coches. Ojala volviera esta F1.
Ooh I never get tired of listening to the old 80s V6 Turbos .... such nice tone. This video could have been longer, maybe go for 2 laps so we can listen for a good 4 or 5 minutes :)
Same, for me the old v6 is better than v10
The old Osterreichring ❤️❤️
back when f1 was still fun to watch
Back when f1 was great
The layout of the circuit is so similar to the modern one, it's mad to see the different terrain, the hills looked so much bigger and the corners that didn't change looked so much longer
The way it should still be.
In this era, drivers must have a big bulge with this pleasurable engine noise and this track with a lot of fast corners and a lot of adrenaline, not like nowadays who drivers juste save their tyres and gas
F1 races in the 80s were very much about saving fuel.
Saving gas and tyres is exactly what it was about in those days. I was a bigger fan then, but f1 definitely better today in terms of performance, effort and perfection.
when F1 was truly and beautifully F1
0:12 "You can drive through it!"
Days of Thunder successfully channelled, much respect.
better tracks
better races
better cars
better engines
But shitty cameras lol
The engine is nearly the same. 1.5 V6 turbo and today 1.6 V6 turbo
Xenial Xerus Better? Maybe you need to check your eyes of stop living in the 1960s
+TAIPIZZALORD just imagine when the cameras are good that will be awesome :v
I never said wheel to wheel racing.
The camera position is much better though. Much, much more exciting than the standard T-Cams nowadays.
First samurai in F1)
0:07 what a turbo lag
Great driver , mr satoru !
早くこのレイアウトに戻してくれ！
jeeez what a ride,real cars in real racetracks for real men,it looks like a warzone with all that smoke and sparks of exotic materials..need balls to drive these babies around...
Such passion, many RPM, much racing. Wow.
Such many DNQ or DNF.. much wow.
@@azynkron well, at least small teams composed by 30 members (like EuroBrun, Coloni, Zakspeed etc...) had the opportunity to enter races.
"Everyone is saying that F1 was great at that time, but no one is saying what was great about it ??"
As someone who's old enough to remember F1 back then, what made it great back then was the atmosphere, the drama. I'm not just talking about the drama between drivers fighting for the title, but the drama from just watching them drive. The lack of driver aids meant they were fighting their cars all the way. The lack of gyro-stabilising in the onboard cameras meant you could "feel" every bump in the track, you had a better idea of what the driver is seeing, you could see the wheel jerking around, you could see the driver correcting at every corner, you could hear the wheelspin as they accelerate.
I'm not by any means saying it's gone in today's F1, but as a spectator you just don't feel it as much now. Modern technology has "tamed" F1 a little too much for the viewer.
Just watch these classic onboards, find the video of Senna wrestling his Mclaren around Monaco, then compare it to this year's onboard.
I know today's F1 cars are much faster, but these old cars "feel" faster when you're watching onboard...
killakanz gaming Great comment and observation.I agree its too sanitised, now.
They may be faster, but the spectacle and ,obviously, the engine noise of todays cars are sadly lacking.
But, thats all you normally get from most of todays fans “yeah, but they’re so much faster”
They should have been re running the 80s snd 90s grand prix, whilst this fiasco is playing itself out!
Hoss Respect your elders , son🤣
Hoss You young guys have no sense of humour, do you?🙄
Just because things change and evolve doesn’t mean that they are more enjoyable.I get far more enjoyment driving my modified 21 and 22 year old Evos than any modern car.
I don’t recall asking you to bow down to me, but if you have somehow construed having a differing opinion as bowing down, then i feel this conversation has plateaued.
Good day to you, sir.
kristofevo it’s annoying to always see the same comments how “f1 is boring now, used to be better before” but I suppose it’s a generational thing 🤷♂️ Have a good day too man
yeah, those cars are painful to drive. I heard that Senna's Mclaren had a gearbox problem during his home GP at Interlagos, and he had to hold his shifter that is stuck in 6th gear to not break.
Much more powerful than the current F1.
I’m overwhelmed.
nope, todays f1 cars have equal to more power than the Lotus 99T which was used in 1987. The Ferrari SF90 in the last stage had ~ 1050bhp. But the Lotus was way more brutal and lighter compared to todays cars. For sure it sounded 1000 times better :)
YOU HEI you're overwhelmed by what exactly? by a single onboard lap? tell me about that stuff you're taking, it must be amazing
1987
エステルライヒリンク
1997
A1リンク
2019現在
レッド・ブルリンク
That's awesome, seeing the way they kept the camera lens clean back then.
ターボブーストがかかり始めてからの音が凄い。
Nakajima San! 👍👏👏
red bull ring is good,bit this track was much better
it's not that much different though. just the firsr 3 corners bascially.
Xenial Xerus
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
I live very close to this track and I heard some rumors that they want to rebuilt the back section for endurance racing and stuff. Also saw some construction work beeing done after the start straight. Maybe we'll see a comeback to a similar layout ;)
red bull ring poop the old osterreichring was better
rummsdala what’s it like listening to F1 as a blind person? Of course the old track was massively different, with huge sweeping curves in most corners and a huge average speed. The new track is shorter, slower, many more tight corners and has only remnants of the old track.
im japanese junior high school student. And Im proud of him.
t d nobody cares that you're proud of somebody you don't even know
@@rideroundandstuff tf man, he is proud of his countrymate....
@@Yovitza_01 but why, he still doesn't know him
I ride around and stuff
Wrong, I care
Erikslust about what?
Amazing era !
80s F1 was balls out madness!
What a track. Real drivers track.
loving the sparks in your face
Bring back the manual gearbox, lets really test the 'best drivers in the world'
Pretty sure you've changed your mind after 3 years, but my God what dumbass you were to comment that
@@corat248 I have to agree CraftyCorvid
@@mTwMarco Y'all need to accept that times change. It's not like we're gonna stick with the same thing forever haha. Although manual gearboxes are nice and actually prove skill, the drivers already have the balls to go through corners faster than no other.
@@corat248 yeah I also agree with your opinion. But to change F1 to be more driver-focused again wouldn't be such a bad idea. For sure there never will be a manual-transmission-comeback. the first thing that has to go is the "saving fuel"-shit. let these drivers push as much as they want.
MLC twixgod I mean lewis Hamilton said the same thing, so is he a dumbass as well?
Great, please more videos like this, very interesting! Cool!
Idea. During F1 season there should be one historical race. With old cars from 80's or early 90's. Double points to score. It would be nice to see current drivers in those old cars :)
Seriously tho those sweet downshifts Naki is hitting sounds amazing when the engine screams like that Nakajima is badass
F1 needs MORE sparks!! Love em
Vocês acabam de ver um dos melhores pilotos da época em ação
Logo atras dele vem o Nakajima kkkkkkkkk
I never knew the old track was like this!
Are you sure that’s the real Nakajima? He didn’t crash at any point!
There was two stars during this grand prix.
Loooool
¡Sin miedo, sin dudar; directo hacia el fuego, hacia las chispas!
wow, lot of sparks, so bouncy, high speed turn, wew :o
No speed limits in the pit lane either.
more classic onboards please😁
And then came Tilke and destroyed the track
That might be the best looking race track ever.
Espectacular, esto es f1 y no la mierda aburrida de ahora.
This is LIT! literally.
Big Nakagima
In the 80s when it was turbocharged, you had to really be on the limit like once you hit a certain rev the turbo would come in and spin the wheels like no tcs like now or the power
Flynn Jacobs The modern cars don’t have TCS, and modern turbo technology combined with hybrid systems makes lag very minimal, but the cars have so much low-end torque that the drivers really need good throttle control to avoid spinning up the rear tires.
中嶋悟さんは､日本人初のF1レーサーで
結果より記憶に残るF1レーサーだった。
細かいかもしれないですが、日本人初のフルタイム参戦ですね！
一応これより前に1975年に予選落ちですが今の童夢の顧問の人が初参戦してて、決勝に出た人だと1976年日本GPで3人出てます
フルタイム参戦して、毎年ポイントを獲得したのは中嶋悟さんだけです
しかも当時は6位までが入賞だからよりすごいと思いますよね。
Great Nakajima.
OMG they're really do it
when formula 1 it use to be fabulous
The sparks flying everywhere in front of him were the very best thing for me by far. =))
Bring back dis circuit pls
すごい臨場感
The same camera in Senna Lotus would have shown a complete different driving-style. Nakajima is driving very smooth and It seems that he was a more passive driver.
From this to night racing in the desert ... Go figure ...
weirder things have happened
Wow, look at these sparks!
いい音
aaahhhh, the good old careless 80's . Fast...dangerous.
'80s.
Back when f1 was a sport
Still is today, it has,is, and always will be a sport.
Golden age.....good, good times !
At 0:55 is that fuel splashing onto the camera or just camera distortion from the speed?