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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • WARNING - VIDEO CONTAINS SPOILERS. ALL DUNE CANONS TAKEN AS SOURCE MATERIAL
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    Learn the story of Duncan Idaho and the many lives he's given in humanity's service in Frank Herbert's Dune
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    Time Stamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:53 - Duncan, the Swordmaster
    8:00 - The Ghola Hayt
    15:47 - Service to the God-Emperor
    21:58 - Final Fortune
    32:20 - Outro
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  • @TheLorebrarians
    @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому +60

    Hey all; an error in audio mixing clipped the end of a couple words in this video - my apologies. What character or topic do you want to explore next?

    • @digitalbookworm5678
      @digitalbookworm5678 Місяць тому +4

      The only truly original character of the last 2 of Frank's books. Miles Teg

    • @tadbennet3087
      @tadbennet3087 Місяць тому

      Where exactly does it say that he grew up on Geidi Prime? That seems to be confused with Gurney or I'm simply missing something. I don't remember reading that anywhere. Any clarification would be appreciated

    • @mattiavelli
      @mattiavelli Місяць тому

      @@digitalbookworm5678 Miles Teg would be great, he truly is an amazing character -- but I think Siona was also pretty original, don't you?

    • @KUBLAIKHAN420
      @KUBLAIKHAN420 Місяць тому +2

      duncan idaho sounds so much like a spaghetti western cowboy name

    • @jondawkins8478
      @jondawkins8478 Місяць тому

      ​@@tadbennet3087 in the expanded universe books that are prequels to the original dune. He lives in Harko city and after his family is killed he is taken to be hunted by Rabban because he likes hunting kids. He escapes and ends up on Caladan. But i don't remember a sister either.

  • @iremembersleep3083
    @iremembersleep3083 Місяць тому +770

    Kind of funny how the ultimate protagonist and hero of the series dies early in the first book.

    • @srj607able
      @srj607able Місяць тому +37

      No worries he will come back for the third movie

    • @DonLoco3
      @DonLoco3 Місяць тому +1

      And told after being essentially pimp slapped he was "just an older model."

    • @spencertherren6806
      @spencertherren6806 Місяць тому +28

      Ned Stark. 👌

    • @DeathBYDesign666
      @DeathBYDesign666 Місяць тому +6

      It's just the Jesus trope, it isn't that mysterious.

    • @iremembersleep3083
      @iremembersleep3083 Місяць тому +34

      @@DeathBYDesign666 It's the Yeshua trope in the same way that a lobster shitting in the sea encompasses all Poseidon tropes.

  • @phillipnoetzel7637
    @phillipnoetzel7637 Місяць тому +566

    During his 1001st life Duncan opens his first donut shop and so began his quest for true freedom and financial wealth.

  • @stiopruryd4879
    @stiopruryd4879 Місяць тому +334

    Idaho is the sole human witness staying across the age-long dreams of the Atreides dinasty

    • @Yujifanik
      @Yujifanik Місяць тому +14

      He is the audience!

    • @mattiavelli
      @mattiavelli Місяць тому +2

      Except that whatever is the current Duncan is missing SOME of his memories, no? The Tleilax always had a spare ready to go...

    • @calvinsuu1949
      @calvinsuu1949 27 днів тому

      The God Emperor knows all...even when Duncan took a fart

  • @hithere5553
    @hithere5553 Місяць тому +178

    Duncan’s story is of the triumph of morality over cruelty. He is tested again and again, through thousands of years and countless lifetimes, he never submitted to tyranny, never comprised his beliefs. And through through his boundless humanity he saves humanity.

    • @jayleefarley6912
      @jayleefarley6912 Місяць тому +6

      He’s a warrior greater than a dozen Sardukar a man respected by Ferman

    • @SufferingSucotash
      @SufferingSucotash 25 днів тому +1

      He's also, sadly, a slave.

    • @kevinburris6250
      @kevinburris6250 4 дні тому

      He did get a bit whiney and immature in god emperor but made up for it in heretics lol. Sexual domination ehh I’m about to flip you over and turn the tables 😅

  • @jordanayling9841
    @jordanayling9841 17 днів тому +45

    Frank Herbert: Over reliance on resources and thinking machines will be the doom of human civilisation, only through the unparalleled humanity of Duncan Idaho can the species hope for a peaceful existence.
    Brian Herbert: What if he was a cyborg too? That sounds nice.

    • @ltvagabond
      @ltvagabond 6 днів тому +3

      Brian, the literary equivalent of a trust fund kid

  • @RussellB
    @RussellB Місяць тому +278

    Duncan Idaho is so funny, it makes me think of the entire state of Idaho completely filled with Dunkin Donuts

    • @weylandyutani9622
      @weylandyutani9622 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 can’t get that out of my mind now every time I hear Duncan Idaho

    • @KentuckyBrad
      @KentuckyBrad 27 днів тому +2

      How childish

    • @realityisenough
      @realityisenough 25 днів тому

      I choked on my pepsi lmfao

    • @weylandyutani9622
      @weylandyutani9622 22 дні тому

      @@KentuckyBrad goofy fish cat

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 22 дні тому

      Gee, that's a 'funny' thought...and so original!

  • @Morfe02
    @Morfe02 Місяць тому +111

    Idaho in Dune: cool warrior gets drunk and ends killing like 20 "behind camera"
    Idaho in the rest of the books: fcking Neo in the 1000 cycle of Zion

    • @user-nz6dx2fj6h
      @user-nz6dx2fj6h 10 днів тому

      That makes no sense. We’re you writing in English?

    • @MathematicalSound
      @MathematicalSound 8 днів тому +2

      It’s obviously English. Do you understand English?

  • @smithsanity2727
    @smithsanity2727 Місяць тому +163

    Came here to learn about the back story of Duncan Idaho…. Left absolutely fuckin mind blown.

    • @other-terrestriallifeform1851
      @other-terrestriallifeform1851 Місяць тому +8

      It's an addictive franchise truly. I know most of it but have yet to read the entirety, I swear I will though!

  • @seanhewitt603
    @seanhewitt603 Місяць тому +194

    Idaho was integral to letos golden path, his honor was attreides honor, and Leto felt this was the best for all humanity.

  • @BaconbuttywithCheese
    @BaconbuttywithCheese Місяць тому +66

    Duncan Idaho's point work with the Fremen before full Atreides arrival on Arrakis was kinda glossed over a bit in the first film.

    • @EbonySeraphim
      @EbonySeraphim Місяць тому +8

      Having not read the books, I could tell there was a lot there. Honestly, that kind of thing makes for a great spin-off / supplementary movie!

  • @KHfan0011
    @KHfan0011 Місяць тому +63

    Jason Momoa is about to make so much money

    • @theamericandream5917
      @theamericandream5917 18 днів тому +2

      I hope Denis doesn’t go down this route. It’d make the movie seem like it’s too much science fiction even for Dune

    • @KHfan0011
      @KHfan0011 18 днів тому +3

      @@theamericandream5917 Nope. Sorry. I hope he does. He hasn't had any chill so far. It would suck if he started at the movie where it's supposed to get batshit insane.

    • @greenbean4422
      @greenbean4422 9 днів тому

      ​@theamericandream5917 what the fuck are you talking about
      You know what a gold navigator is? What the kwisatz haderach final form is?
      Genuinely, you don't have any idea of what you're talking about
      Bro is debating what is too science fiction while he doesn't even consume the media

    • @livingashtree1942
      @livingashtree1942 5 днів тому

      I don't think momoa is reprising that role (His age)

  • @Robert0Pirie
    @Robert0Pirie Місяць тому +93

    So glad I found this channel. Y'all are up there with Alt Shift X, the Templin Institute, and Quinn's Ideas for my scifi fix. Keep it up!

    • @aaronmcpherson1297
      @aaronmcpherson1297 Місяць тому +1

      right!

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому +1

      I appreciate it and am glad you enjoy the Dune content!

    • @user-gd4ku5se8h
      @user-gd4ku5se8h Місяць тому +3

      If you're looking for quality Dune content check out Doc Sloan's Science Fiction Station channel.
      On it you'll find Doc's PHd thesis on Dune. It's themes, place in SciFi history, influences and character analysis.
      I really like his three part series which traces the Greek myth origins of the Curse of House Atradis.
      He also does a weekly book club. As of now we're on Messiah with intention to do all six original books.
      We'd love to see you there.

  • @IdgaradLyracant
    @IdgaradLyracant Місяць тому +53

    Duncan was the true KH. It begs the question that in fact Duncan is the physical manifestation of free will. He's the only one that has in fact defied Prescience.

    • @Joce-bl7qi
      @Joce-bl7qi 17 днів тому +1

      @IdgaradLyracant
      Ehhh, Idk the validity of saying “Duncan is the physical manifestation of free will” when he is cloned/resurrected/brought back so many times. It’s not like he chooses to do that on his own. That type of control over someone is the opposite of physical free will.

    • @IdgaradLyracant
      @IdgaradLyracant 17 днів тому +6

      @@Joce-bl7qi Of all the characters, he's the only one that appears to have made an actual choice that wasn't bound by prescience.

  • @bobbobertbobberton1073
    @bobbobertbobberton1073 Місяць тому +74

    He didn't have 1000 lives, no one knows how many lives he had, he and Siona however had a 1000 sons. That's where GW got the idea for the thousand sons army.

  • @andrewniehoff8612
    @andrewniehoff8612 Місяць тому +21

    One of the Ducans led the remainder of the Sardukar in a rebellion...ironic considering how he died the first time.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 Місяць тому +20

    ''the Duncans'' will always crack me up.

  • @MiamiGameHunter
    @MiamiGameHunter Місяць тому +33

    Think of it in video game terms. Save the final one, the Gholas’ memories at “birth” all went right up until at the death of the original. So that was the base “safe file”. They wouldn’t remember the memories of the gholas that came before them, only that of the original. It wasn’t until the final ghola that he was able to remember ALL the memories of the gholas that came before.

    • @fascilime
      @fascilime 25 днів тому +1

      Fans of Invincible would also be able to recognize this trope from a character who has exactly this happen to him, but his body is secretly an android with a bit of brain inside.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 24 дні тому +1

      Final Idaho was the only one with Kwiswatz Haderach powers,which give him access to all his ancestors ' memory

  • @GilbertJones-cv9yf
    @GilbertJones-cv9yf 27 днів тому +5

    Impressive summation of Idaho, catching the far reaching purpose of his reiterations, a concise self manifestation of the multi lives. Your work helped me pull together the path envisioned by the writer(s) from the beginning. Thanks.

  • @GZilla311
    @GZilla311 Місяць тому +72

    I still think he should have been played by Sean Bean in the newer films.
    It’s the role he was born for.

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @irulan9161
      @irulan9161 Місяць тому +13

      Sean Bean is way too old for this part

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 Місяць тому +4

      Sean Bean is way too old and way too white...Jason Momoa fits the book description of Duncan Idaho perfectly imo (dark, curly haired, good looking, etc.)

    • @chrisa7905
      @chrisa7905 Місяць тому +27

      @@koko40800pretty sure they were making a joke not an actual suggestion. The character continuously dies, just like 90% of Sean Bean’s roles.

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Місяць тому +1

      @@chrisa7905We're running out of living actors who are known for dying over and over.

  • @tscarb
    @tscarb Місяць тому +9

    Well done! That’s a great deal of work and well delivered

  • @jimmyb2655
    @jimmyb2655 Місяць тому +15

    dude, this was really good

  • @florianpierredumont4775
    @florianpierredumont4775 Місяць тому +57

    I confess I always mistake him with Gurney Halleck. Both are from Giedi Prime, both lost at least one family member because of the Harkonen, both want to kill Raban, and both are great swordfighters. I mean, appart of that, yes, they are totally different. ;)

    • @ugoeze7360
      @ugoeze7360 Місяць тому

      Was Gurney a SwordMaster too?

    • @user-lf2kk2rj8k
      @user-lf2kk2rj8k Місяць тому +2

      Yeah.. a big failure of story writing.

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому +2

      @@ugoeze7360No, not a trained sword master

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... Місяць тому +6

      Gurney plays the baliset and has a scar. Big difference!

    • @airporttrucker8529
      @airporttrucker8529 Місяць тому +6

      Gurney was the war master not the sword master. Perhaps some overlap in their roles. Gurney was more of an all rounder with skills encompassing military strategy and utilising lazgun.

  • @lostfound8112
    @lostfound8112 Місяць тому +4

    Loved this entire vid. Well written and presented. I wish a longform was made into a kinda movie with a plus effects

  • @ThePenitentSquirrel
    @ThePenitentSquirrel Місяць тому +113

    One of the cruelest fates of about any character in fiction

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar Місяць тому +25

      Exactly, in fact being resurrected over and over again is far worse than death itself. At least Leto I and Paul were able to find peace. I do feel bad for Duncan as he watch everyone he knew and love die like files!

    • @mori_Jin.
      @mori_Jin. Місяць тому +8

      "(Thinks of Guts & wonder's of this is true)"

    • @imnotacat5299
      @imnotacat5299 Місяць тому +19

      ​@@WyattDucar He wasn't resurrected, he was cloned. They just have their past memories awakened.
      There is no resurrection in this series. Once you die, you die.

    • @DaddyLogan420
      @DaddyLogan420 Місяць тому +22

      @@imnotacat5299eh semantics. He’s a clone with all his memories so he’s still the same person technically. Died and now he’s back. Resurrection

    • @ThePenitentSquirrel
      @ThePenitentSquirrel Місяць тому +1

      @@imnotacat5299 Consider 'God Emeperor of Dune' , If you knew that you would be cloned (a Ghola) and each life you lived was essentially predestined to be killed by the person who keeps on cloning you and that you would eventually be nothing more than a curio from a bygone era I imagine that would be worse then death. Also, each of the Clones eventually does find out the truth and the person cloning you knows it as does his advisors. It's kind of the darkest inside joke ever.

  • @ArchieBC
    @ArchieBC Місяць тому +2

    That was fascinating!

  • @bobbobertbobberton1073
    @bobbobertbobberton1073 Місяць тому +56

    Duncan was not unequal in sword fighting, Gurney Hallek was better, even Duncan admitted so saying Gurney would beat him 7/10 times.

    • @ScottSmith-jz8zv
      @ScottSmith-jz8zv Місяць тому +1

      I think that was more out of respect than truth

    • @bobbobertbobberton1073
      @bobbobertbobberton1073 Місяць тому +6

      @@ScottSmith-jz8zv No it wasn't.

    • @benjaminghazi787
      @benjaminghazi787 Місяць тому

      Gurney is trash

    • @KyleErrington-bw2cl
      @KyleErrington-bw2cl Місяць тому +5

      @@bobbobertbobberton1073did you even watch the video? He says many times Gurney is better

    • @bobbobertbobberton1073
      @bobbobertbobberton1073 26 днів тому

      @@KyleErrington-bw2cl Didn't watch it all, but him being 'unequal in sword fighting' was enough for me to comment what I did.

  • @thearmchairjournalist566
    @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому +2

    Fantastic video 👌

  • @richarddeese1087
    @richarddeese1087 Місяць тому +6

    Thanks. They couldn't have had all the Idaho ghola cells, yet he had all those memories. Never explained. Also, Daniel & Marty were NOT robots, they were face dancers who'd become independent. tavi.

  • @jeremiahmuhammad4722
    @jeremiahmuhammad4722 Місяць тому +12

    Did you mix Duncan up with Gurney and his sister?

  • @nevasoba5953
    @nevasoba5953 Місяць тому +5

    In the new version Duncan Idaho is by far my favorite character

  • @crypto66
    @crypto66 18 днів тому +4

    It took two releases 3 years apart to adapt the first book. I don't know the scale of the later books but even if they can cram in 1 book per movie, Jason Momoa is still going to need his own ghola to do them all.

  • @SpeakyDeak
    @SpeakyDeak Місяць тому +1

    nice one dude

  • @other-terrestriallifeform1851
    @other-terrestriallifeform1851 Місяць тому +1

    I haven't finished reading the original works through yet to look at expanded universe material. I plan to fully embrace the entire course of collective work with my whole heart. DUNE IS THE BEST OF THE BEST 👌 😊 👍

  • @thearmchairjournalist566
    @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому +10

    Duncan was always the KH, but the BG never factored a Ghola into the equation 😂

  • @Gabronthe
    @Gabronthe 8 днів тому +1

    20:30 I think it speaks very well to the humanity of Idaho himself.

  • @avalontheeldritchwhorror8212
    @avalontheeldritchwhorror8212 Місяць тому +3

    I love your videos! What is the name of the beginning background music you guys use? It sounds so epic and majestic.

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed! It is a unique composition made for the channel by a personal friend

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      @avalontheeldritchwhorror8212 Місяць тому +1

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      @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому

      @@avalontheeldritchwhorror8212 love to hear it! Magic has so many unique worlds and stories to explore, plus a great game to play

  • @rgbpriester7153
    @rgbpriester7153 Місяць тому +5

    greg doucette, i wish i saw this video sooner. Coming out of a semi toxic relationship seeing your video makes me feel less bad about breaking up.

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      @adamm2091 Місяць тому

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  • @bamaboy5746
    @bamaboy5746 Місяць тому +1

    Where can i find some of the artwork shown in the video? It is quite pleasing

  • @projectvzero
    @projectvzero Місяць тому +3

    This is awesome! I found this channel from being a lover of lore and MTG helped my find you. I kinda ghosted MTG and D&D content about a year ago due to the foul taste the company left me with. However always loved your content and im glad to see i have a reason to come back with some other lore i love. ❤

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому

      Appreciate and so glad you enjoy the Dune content! MTG has also lifted in my eye, which is why I'm branching out even though I still enjoy its old stories. Any content suggestions worth exploring?

  • @NarFlux
    @NarFlux Місяць тому +8

    So Gurnie and Duncan have the same backstory? Slaves to the Harconans, and their sisters murdered.

  • @simonkammeyer4334
    @simonkammeyer4334 13 днів тому

    I love that we get to see most of this played out on screen. If u haven't seen the old sci-fi channels presentation of Dune & children of dune. U must find and watch! They were mini series not movies. Simply incredible! Bad effects and budget. But the story progression and the actors make it more than watchable.

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Місяць тому +1

    Duncan Idaho keeps going & going & going.

  • @thatotherdan9984
    @thatotherdan9984 Місяць тому +20

    Imagine being so good at what you do that even after you die, you're not allowed to stay dead. That's why everyone should embrace the mid! Haha

    • @AbhayPeshin
      @AbhayPeshin Місяць тому +1

      UA-cam asked me to give a feedback on your comment

    • @TheChronozoan
      @TheChronozoan Місяць тому

      What does that mean

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 Місяць тому

      @@TheChronozoan meditate on it bra

  • @AlessandroFilippiUX
    @AlessandroFilippiUX Місяць тому +2

    I think this channel should get into the 3 bodies problem

  • @nampham2892
    @nampham2892 56 хвилин тому

    "Dun" in Dune is the acronym for Duncan

  • @Roarke231
    @Roarke231 Місяць тому +9

    while a lot of people don't considered Brian's books cannon, I rather like the way he tied the story up

  • @LittleCrowYT
    @LittleCrowYT Місяць тому +8

    Dune: aka generational curses the epic

  • @the_spaggot3148
    @the_spaggot3148 Місяць тому +8

    The duncan homophobia mini-arc is always hilarious to me🤣

  • @IronBlimp
    @IronBlimp Місяць тому +2

    The witches suspected we didn’t even go to the “same” universe when we folded space. I doubt frank went to all that trouble to get Duncan out there like that just too turn around. Those new books are not good things

  • @louistherrien4483
    @louistherrien4483 Місяць тому +2

    I have to ask : should you pronounce Matres “M-ah-ter”, like “Mother” in latin?

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому

      I thought it was pronounced Mate’ers

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... Місяць тому

      Plural: Matres

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  Місяць тому

      Great question. Pronunciation in Dune is always a divisive topic. As there are few instances of "this is definitely how it's pronounced" I leave it to this: I'll pronounce them how I will, and you will pronounce them how you will.

  • @cedricthomas4867
    @cedricthomas4867 Місяць тому +2

    Can’t wait till u guys meet Miles Teg..

  • @cccornel5965
    @cccornel5965 29 днів тому

    Think about making a never ending TV series about Duncan Idaho
    I would be like some old TV series with over a 1000 episodes

  • @rookregent5623
    @rookregent5623 Місяць тому +1

    Frank Herbert: omniscient rulers bad question everything maybe take them out even? Yeah
    His kid: HEY LOOK A COOL GODKING HAHAHA

  • @pipsquek1669
    @pipsquek1669 29 днів тому

    You're alive?
    "The Dark Side of the sand is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."
    - Duncan Idaho

  • @josenathanieltendencia245
    @josenathanieltendencia245 Місяць тому +1

    I would only imagine Jason Momoa as Duncan resurrected many times. It's getting really weird by the moment. Lol 😆

  • @Titangoboom99
    @Titangoboom99 18 днів тому

    Every young guys secret dream is to get into a badass sword fight. This dude just lived it.

  • @Lord_RFAS
    @Lord_RFAS Місяць тому +2

    Duncan Idaho, THE Swordmaster of Ginaz? Yeah, na, yeah: he was trained by the Swordmasters of the Ginaz and thus could be considered A Swordmaster of the Ginaz but not THE.

  • @stevenduncan5695
    @stevenduncan5695 25 днів тому

    in Gaelic Duncan means tanned/brown warrior, I think Frank Herbert might of know this when creating the character

  • @corbinthomas4065
    @corbinthomas4065 11 днів тому

    I'm gonna watch the rest of the video but I have to say, very easy to mix up gurney halecks early life and Duncan Idaho's 😂

  • @daytripp79
    @daytripp79 Місяць тому

    Indeed

  • @shoresy6943
    @shoresy6943 Місяць тому +1

    Duncan Idaho moved to Texas and started playing basketball in the mid 90's and changed his name to Tim Duncan.

  • @johnkrappweis7367
    @johnkrappweis7367 27 днів тому

    I believe I heard there will be a third “Dune” movie.since Duncan Idaho is reborn again and again, I hope this means we get to see David Momoa again.

  • @DRnick2359
    @DRnick2359 22 дні тому +1

    Duncan Idaho is the Kenny of the Dune universe....😂😂😂

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 22 дні тому

      'You killed Duncan! Again!"

  • @DirtRider999
    @DirtRider999 Місяць тому

    I want a whole movie that revolves around the sardukar those guys F.

  • @Grimmance
    @Grimmance 15 днів тому

    18:15 "why keep an idaho ghola" to ensure the atreides line never strays too far from human and has "Atreides loyalty" constantly bred back in.
    Its like breeding dogs and every so mamy generations readding wolf to the line

  • @moosehunter11b12
    @moosehunter11b12 Місяць тому

    There is one mistake and that's when you said Leto orchestrated his death. He purposefully avoided looking at his death, and states it multiple times in the book. He states that it is the ultimate surprise whic he reserves for himself

  • @misapheonix
    @misapheonix Місяць тому

    Interesting. I'm unsure how it's more advantageous to have memory access to all of your own cloned lives (across a few millenia), over how Reverend Mothers have access to all other people in their position (across tens of millenia)? Surely the later is much more divergant and has increased wealth to draw from?

  • @nealsandy8464
    @nealsandy8464 23 дні тому

    Is Duncan who inspired GRRM's Duncan the tall?

  • @user-dr8lh8br9r
    @user-dr8lh8br9r Місяць тому +6

    They need to do a Duncan Idaho movie ... They could do the fremin years with him 1st at arakis finding the fremin and flash backs and other the options are infinite but it needs done . 😎🤟Allways been my all time Fave character

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 Місяць тому +1

      Fremen - sorry but as I worship the books I couldn’t help myself 😂

    • @danielestevao5
      @danielestevao5 Місяць тому

      Dumb

    • @user-dr8lh8br9r
      @user-dr8lh8br9r Місяць тому

      @@thearmchairjournalist566 I know I know as a book audio worshiper I'm apauled at my grammar 🤣

    • @user-dr8lh8br9r
      @user-dr8lh8br9r Місяць тому

      @@danielestevao5 that's reply is dumb melt 🫠

  • @simonkammeyer4334
    @simonkammeyer4334 13 днів тому

    If you're new to dune. Meaning you've only seen the new ones, but loved em. And you haven't read Frank Herbert's beloved books. Then you simply must watch the sci-fi presentations of Dune and Children of dune. So much more detail. Both are 3dics long so you get alot of the stuff you missed from the books.

  • @alexisentisma
    @alexisentisma 24 дні тому

    It's kind of a surprise that Herbert's sons didn't work Paul and Leto II into the dna mix of the eventual final Duncan...

  • @Bob-Fields
    @Bob-Fields Місяць тому +5

    We can stop watching @29:00.

    • @rookregent5623
      @rookregent5623 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly where im paused homie aint no reason to go further lol

  • @rgbpriester7153
    @rgbpriester7153 Місяць тому

    Train your heart to failure harder than last time.

  • @effyeadude
    @effyeadude 17 днів тому +1

    I love your content, truly, but please invest in a high quality pop filter or something.
    Getting some rough peaking on "s" and "f"

  • @ansono6413
    @ansono6413 26 днів тому

    Guess he really knew how to use his blade with Alia

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Місяць тому

    The ultimate Yarmulka Kreplach

  • @lastspud7030
    @lastspud7030 Місяць тому

    May be you should read the House of Atrades again

  • @Artuditu123
    @Artuditu123 Місяць тому +12

    Final book gives such a disservice to the core theme of Frank Herbert's books.
    Thousands of pages on how we can't trust heroes and supreme rulers, just to get übermensch Idaho merged with supreme AI to create eternal ruler of the known universe. Disgusting

    • @rookregent5623
      @rookregent5623 Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for the warning. Thats unfortunate. Frank would be disappointed. I sure am. :(

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 25 днів тому +1

      No, because he also represents the ultimate attainment for humanity...if he is an 'eternal ruler' he is an eternal benevolent despot...as close to God as Man can get

    • @Artuditu123
      @Artuditu123 24 дні тому +2

      @@koko40800 It's literally "Yeah, he's a despot. but THIS TIME he's truly perfected and will be ideal for ruling all humanity, trust me bro". I don't see how this doesn't go against core message of Frank's books.

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 22 дні тому +2

      @@Artuditu123 Because one of the core message of the Dune books are, Human Evolution. Duncan Idaho reached the pinnacle of human evolution, even surpassing Paul and Leto II....Because he was not a tyrant, and he did not inspire bloody jihads...He was the ultimate KH, even surpassing what the Bene Gesserit envisioned, because he could learn from his own past lives...not just from the lives of male ancestors or previous Reverend Mothers...He was the KH who would peacefully and benevolently lead man to a better future, without tyranny

    • @Artuditu123
      @Artuditu123 22 дні тому

      @@koko40800 Again "this guy is cool, unlike all the other tyrants" IS absolutely going against Frank's message. Clou isn't "we have to try with tyrants until we'll find a good benevolent ruler". It's some weird reactionary view of the Brian implanted into series being all about power corrupting good people and hidden strenght of diverse, self-governing population.

  • @lvnmylife
    @lvnmylife Місяць тому

    What judge is he talking about that lost their husband?

  • @Raidmasterprod
    @Raidmasterprod Місяць тому

    One question: Does Jason Mamoa know of this?

    • @rookregent5623
      @rookregent5623 Місяць тому +1

      Actors generally read the source material before they do the roles, yes.

    • @ZeelofTheMarty
      @ZeelofTheMarty Місяць тому

      Unless asked to they do not read source material.​@@rookregent5623

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 22 дні тому

      @@ZeelofTheMarty On what planet do actors not read the source material, to better understand their characters? Unless they're illiterate (?)....Certainly not any professional actor working a major feature film

    • @ZeelofTheMarty
      @ZeelofTheMarty 22 дні тому

      @@koko40800 Just got look at The Witcher they did not read any of the source material and were in fact proud of that. Same for a lot of the recent Marvel productions. So yes the planet you are looking for is this one you are on called Earth at least in English it is.
      In fact there are UA-camrs with mil + subs dedicated to calling out people who ignore the source material.

    • @koko40800
      @koko40800 21 день тому

      @@ZeelofTheMarty Who needs to read a Marvel comic to understand a one dimensional MCU character?? A simple Fan Wiki summary will do for that crap....but I guarantee you a professional actor working a big budget film based on a complex epic like 'Dune', would certainly read the book...Again unless they're illiterate....which wouldn't be much of a surprise b/c illiteracy seems to be increasing these days...I can't count how many people complained online about how difficult a read 'Dune' was....I'm like JC people, I tore through that book in days (b/c I literally couldn't put it down) when I was 15 or 16 years old

  • @gambini5777
    @gambini5777 День тому

    Is Jason Mamoa the best Cast decission for Duncan Idaho? I rather had visualized a John Wick like guy than Kal Drogo!

  • @pixelchickenrider9566
    @pixelchickenrider9566 Місяць тому

    Someone missed an opportunity to name a character "Duncan Dune Nut"

  • @LunarLocust
    @LunarLocust Місяць тому +2

    The majority of duncans deaths was just leto rolling over

  • @marcusc9931
    @marcusc9931 3 дні тому

    "You fought in the clone wars?"

  • @funkboy14
    @funkboy14 Місяць тому

    Guy literally becomes an anime character.

  • @Krocxigor
    @Krocxigor Місяць тому

    So in the end duncan created the borg?

  • @rio425ee
    @rio425ee Місяць тому

    Every time you say matres wrong a part of my soul dies.

  • @yensid4294
    @yensid4294 Місяць тому

    I love all the Hindu/Buddhist concepts of awakening & reincarnation but scifi in Dune. Genetic memories, clones...Duncan is space Siddhartha

  • @astrobot702
    @astrobot702 Місяць тому

    It seems man will always struggle against its own creations ..

  • @jaycarlisle5770
    @jaycarlisle5770 27 днів тому

    Loyalty is the one word? I thought the one word was undying... I know better than trying to think

  • @theamericandream5917
    @theamericandream5917 18 днів тому

    I hope Denis chooses not to go down this route in Dune 3. Going down resurrection of Idaho I believe would be too confusing and too fantastical even for the Dune series. I think it would do more harm than good in the eyes of the average moviegoer. Even if this is canon and part of the book that doesn’t always mean it’ll work for movies.

  • @Dogfurforever
    @Dogfurforever 27 днів тому

    Blimey poor old Duncan

  • @richardwilliams5387
    @richardwilliams5387 3 дні тому

    To my mind the books started to falter the further they moved from the Atreides. The whole thing with Duncan being the "ultimate" Kwisatz Haderach killed if for me. Herbert's son, who cowrote the later books said they were working from Frank Herbert's notes but I like many fans have called bullshit over the years.

  • @user-nz6dx2fj6h
    @user-nz6dx2fj6h 10 днів тому

    Prescient?

  • @jonathanreynolds1797
    @jonathanreynolds1797 23 дні тому

    It’s only from this video can I see just how much Dune must have influenced Game of Thrones. Idaho is giving Jon Snow vibes …

  • @codranine6054
    @codranine6054 23 дні тому

    Letos use of him is kinda messed up. Not kinda

  • @calvinsuu1949
    @calvinsuu1949 5 днів тому

    For those who do not know Duncan Idaho was ghola multiple times by the God Emperor for his loyalty to the house atredies...over time he regain his memories back

  • @clarapettit3303
    @clarapettit3303 Місяць тому +1

    MA TR As Not May Trees

  • @LynkUpKid17
    @LynkUpKid17 2 дні тому +1

    So Duncan Idaho= Jango Fett?