One thing to keep in mind when messing about with modern CPU's on old hardware is hardware USB support. Even with a USB 3+ card, a lot of motherboards and CPU's can only reach USB 2 speeds. If all you're doing is data transfer etc - or even loading levels on emulation.... its worth being aware of. Its a fun project, but don't get over excited. Pushing old kit to still work is definitely worth while, especially for servers etc. BUT.... if you actually want a usable PC for not much money, look at Refurbs and Mini's, around the £150-250 mark - they hit all the bells and perform to modern standards. That said, I have an offline-only old P4 4.2Ghz Windows XP system purely for retro gaming, and I love it.
Great video, recently i upgraded my laptop with i5-7200U (7th Gen) with Geforce 920MX and 8 GB of RAM to Windows 11 x64 22H2, it's working well, old games running well, like GTA San Andreas, no errors. Greetings from Brazil, i like your channel.
I am currently working at hospital in remote Russia, we got 1-2 core Intel Celeron based "PC's" with 2 gb of ram And I put trimmed win11 on them, main difference in performance comes from removing as much background processes and ssd's ofc) The way they work is tolerable :D
@@SaanMigwell You can get past the TPM requirement by getting a Windows 11 ISO and flashing it onto a USB stick with Rufus, it automatically gives an option to disable the minimum system requirements, but you could also edit the registry like it was shown in this video.
can you make a video of the process, i understand it may be boring, but to me it is fascinating that windows 11 can be run on 2000 megabytes of ram and a celeron
I've got an old E-machines with the P4 641 (3.2ghz) I was kinda surprise they sold these CPU's so late in production. I might have to just fire up and play around with a copy of Windows 10 and see how it handles it? Thanks for the interesting tinkering of old hardware in this video Ramtech.
@@youraveragejoe23 Clock speed is not a valid designator of performance between different architectures. Your 2017 laptop has a CPU with a *base clock* of 1.7 GHz, it boosts higher. It also probably has 4-8 cores, where the Pentium 4 is only single core with HT in some models. Even a Core 2 running at half the speed of a Pentium 4 will smoke it, and that was just one architecture later. Netburst was just that bad.
Supposedly the Athlon 64 gained LAHF/SAHF support as soon as the first X2 dual core models were released in May of 2005, which would make it over half a year older than the P4 6x1 still. Might be worth checking out in another video if Win 11 only requires MMX, SSE/2/3 and some sorta 64 bit extension set (EM64T for Intel, AMD64 for AMD) otherwise. Undoubtedly the Pentium will be the slower of the two however, what a pile of trash Netburst was.
Well... Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit *didn't* work on my Opteron 165 and that CPU was released in August of 2005 to my knowledge, that CPU does have 2 cores and is technically AMD64. I did however get Windows 10 32-bit to install on there, and it's surprisingly usable
@@RowanBird779 yes, the Socket 939 CPUs don't work with Windows 10/11 64-bit. The oldest CPUs that can run it are Pentium 4 6x1 and Celeron 4x0. For these old AMD CPUs you could try Windows 7 64-bit, you can run all the modern APPs without problems.
@@BaguetesGarage Celeron D with Cedar Mill core is the oldest and slowest actually, I got it running on a Celeron D 347 and an AGP platform, with FX 5500 graphics and DDR1 RAM
Thanks for the additional infos! I was able to experiment and install win11 in a 32bit laptop Acer Aspire One (AOD257), Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz with 2G of RAM only.The hardest part was finding hardware drivers. I am using it now in commenting on this video.
@@GGigabiteM he didn't claim either thing, he didn't say he had 32 bit win 11 nor that the cpu wasn't supporting 64 bit instructions All he said was that the laptop was 32 bit, meaning it came with a 32 bit OS originally, and that's it.
According to windows 11 latest intel's decade old Pentium 4 CPU is supported by windows 11. however, Microsoft has not released an official list of CPUs that can run windows 11. instead, they have provided minimum system requirements for windows 11, which include a processor that is 1 gigahertz ghz or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).
Bruh… I am using a 2009 Intel pentium T4400 dual core laptop from an Acer Aspire 5732z which has 3GB of RAM and can handle windows 11 soo smoothly. Beat that….
I also upgraded a Sony laptop (which has vista installed previously) which has a dual core pentium from i think 2006 and upgraded it to windows 11 and that runs smoothly!!
The reason that the Pentium 4 6x1 had limited motherboard support is because it was released at the very end of the Pentium 4's lifecycle. Intel made it more as a test of their new 65nm node than as a marketable product. The 6x1 used the Cedar Mill core, which was basically a die shrunk Prescott-2M core. By the time the Cedar Mill P4s came out, every Pentium 4 only chipset was a year or more old. Many motherboard manufacturers didn't bother making BIOS updates with the required microcode to support the newer CPUs. There wasn't much interest in doing so because Core 2 was just 6 months off and people were so fed up with the garbage that was the Pentium 4 that nobody was buying them. The Cedar Mill P4s though did have one good use, upgrading terribly designed Dell SFF machines like the SX280, or GX280 SFF. Dell had the grand idea of putting 95-115W CPUs in a tiny case with zero ventilation and wondered why they lost billions in class action lawsuits over them baking to death. The D0 stepping 6x1 processors had a 65W TDP and ran MUCH cooler and put significantly less strain on the power supplies of those machines, making them a lot more reliable. The sSpec of those starts with SL9K_. Replace _ with G = 631, F = 641, E = 651. Luck runs out on the 661 though (SL9KD), as it's an 86W part. If you want guaranteed support for these late P4's, you'll need a motherboard with a 965 or 30 series chipset (P31, G31/33, P35, Q33/35). Intel officially dropped Netburst support on 30 series chipsets, but most motherboards still supported them.
Anwser Is: Since 2012, when Windows 8 came out, Microsoft increased one of the requirements for running newer Windows such as Windows 8, one of which is the support of LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode, which is also required to run Windows 11.
lo estoy corriendo en una dell inspiron con un core2 duo en 1.3ghz y 8 de ram XD. me salta de vez en vez el error de el dispositivo no cuenta con TPM pero a pesar de funcionar un poco lento todos los dispositivos de la laptop funcionan bien.
I'm surprised big organizations aren't catering for legacy setups (without people having to do work around/patches) it would be so much more fun if they did. Best wishes, Stefan, Jersey, Channel Islands.
There is a problem with your install metod, 630 and 631 have the same instruction support, Cedar Mill was just 65nm version of Prescott 2M, anything Cedar Mill runs, Prescott 2M will run too.
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit.
I have known for 4 years that after transferring the install.wim file from Win 11 ISO to Win 10 ISO, it will run on Pentium 4 or AMD 64 (minimum requirements for Windows 10) because older processors do not have, SSE2 Instructions, NX and other
i didint watch the full video but you can use rufus to do that when u click ready or smt it will ask you questions tho u need to tick the box and there is a one saying bypass hardware check so yeah
There are linux distros like Gentoo that are super light and still have full support for 32-bit systems. It would be interesting to see what the oldest computer that can still run a modern OS is.
@@itsarian. nope, you can t run windows 10 64 bit/ windows 11 on amd athlon 64(socket 754, 939) and opteron, because they lack an instruction for 64 bit versions of windows 8, 10 and windows 11
This guy has very good information on this stuff.EX If I ever install windows 7 or any that he made a video on a modern computer I can look back and see the stuff that he use to help me. Thanks
@@RamtechENG also my gaming PC (dell optiplex 390) uses a second generation core i5 processor that has a little bit of text glitches on browsing the web on chrome
Windows 11 on a mid 2012 MacBook Pro is awesome. Put an SSD and 16gb of ram in it and you are set. If someone is on a budget I recommend looking for a mid 2012 and just run Windows 11 on it.
can someone explain to me why this cpu is as follows on passmark: Average CPU Mark rating 295 Single Thread Rating: 664 How is the CPU mark lower than the single core? I thought it was usually (almost) a sum of the total cores doing all the work. eg. 8700k is 13.7k passmark while single core is 2.7k math says 2.7k * 6 = around 16k which isnt that far off the total score I guess?
This video reminds me about my old pc. The processor is athlon 64 x2 4600+. With 4gb 667mhz ddr2 ram. And geforce 8400 GS. It runs windows 10 build 1151 i think (i forgot the build number). And it was very slow. It cant play 720p video. And very lagging at 480p. But im kind of surprised that the cpu managed to run windows 10. Even though it was unusable
Why do you think installing 64 bit OSwith 2GB of RAM is a facepalm? 1.32bit vs 64-bit is not only about RAM 2.32bit won't support 4GB or more, but it doesn't mean 64bit won't support less than 4GB 2.64bit software uses more memory due to pointer sizes, but this is only couple percent more.
Did anyone else have an issue with the "doesn't meet sys. Requirements" wall persisting after making the bypasses in RegEdit?? I really need help here. HP Pavillion A6220n with A 2 core processor of 2.2 ghz. (I'm fighting the pc rn but it exceeds minimal Requirements. 6GB of Ram as well.
Windows 7 Ultimate has been the most stable OS I've had since DOS. Under every other OS I've had at least one BSOD during its run. With Win 7 the only failures I've had were hardware failures.
Hey bro I am using windows 7 in my ho laptop and my driver of wifi is missing I have tried to download it from hp officials, third party websites, driverpack solutions software but it didn't worked for me , according to you what should I do next
Use another computer and flash a USB stick with tiny 11 using Rufus program. Then stick the flash drive in your windows 7 pc in the boot menu. This fixed my wifi issue. Upgraded from windows 10 to windows 11. Upgrading to tiny 11 will fix the wifi.
Im surprised you couldn't install windows 11 on a 32-bit system. I personally was able to install windows 11 on a 32-bit system but it had a slow hdd and it was just pure pain
Microsoft no longer works with 32-bit systems nor does it support 32-bit processors anymore, so much so that Microsoft made Windows 11 only for 64-bit processors. Sorry any english error, english is not my native language.
@@antonisautos8704 I was able to install it in a 32bit laptop AOD257 model with only 2G of RAM. Of course I need to do something by converting 32bit hardware “virtually” into a 64bit hardware. Finding drivers is hard though but successfully did it.
Btw you will need WDDM graphics card. XPDM graphics card is not supported in Windows 8 and later, so you will be stuck in software acceleration with basic video adapter. Basically, if it has drivers for Vista and up, it will work. Really shows you how bogus the CPU requirements are.
I forgot where I found it but there is a cd image that can be used to boot usb drives as a bit of workaround. I last used it to install windows 7 on a machine that didn’t support booting from usb and only had a cd drive
Hi, I'm trying to install Windows 11 23H2 on a i7 2600 CPU, but after the procedure with regedit I still have the same error on requirements. It is changed something in Windows 11 23H2 checks?
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit.
sir i have laptop with i 2323 m processor 64 bit i3 2 gen laptop 1 GB 640 m gpu 16 GB 833 mhz ram can upgrade to 1600 mhz can run windows 11 i can add ssd insted of HDD and DVD
It was interesting seeing Windows 11 run on much older hardware, but IDK about “without any issues”. You need to make modifications to the registry to get it to run, and you only showed the OS running (and using as much as 60% of the CPU cycles). Can you actually do anything on that system?
@@RamtechENG I only bring that up because the point of having a computer is to use it. It’s great that one can get a modern OS to run on such old hardware, but what would the point be if you can’t use the system? I’m not trying to be negative, just speaking from the experience of daily driving a computer designed for Windows 98 that I managed to get XP working on. It was barely usable for browsing the internet and nothing else.
There is something missing in these instructions. After i make the registry changes how do i get the install to restart as it does not do it automatically. i have the two windows open one with the regedit and the other where you typed in regedit.
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit. I had this issue with a Pentium D 820 CPU
Take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt, but there's a chance this would work on a socket 478 board, I thinking using a Pentium 4 SL7QB. The SL7QB, and SL7Q8, to the extent of my (rather limited) knowledge do support 64-bit instructions
Problem with that CPU is that Intel made it in limited quantities for one specific manufacturer in less than a handful of specific machines. Not many of them existed to begin with, and even fewer exist today. Good luck finding one for a reasonable price, the last time I saw one in the wild, it went for hundreds of dollars.
@@JordanAnderson-pp5hu Windows 11 generally doesn't need a TPM at all, they just really want you to have one. I'm pretty sure socket AM3 motherboards don't have TPM 2.0 but Windows 11 worked fine on mine
Since 2012, when Windows 8 came out, Microsoft increased Two of the requirements for running newer Windows such as Windows 8, one of which is the support of LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode And CMPXCHG16B, which is also required to run Windows 11. I hope Windows 12 does not fulfill one of its requirements What Is The LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode And CMPXCHG16B? The LAHF and SAHF load and store the contents of the AH register into the flags register, respectively (Intel Instruction Set Reference, PDF pages 530 and 1025). Some older Intel processors without hardware virtualization (VT-x) functionality do not support this instruction when running in 64-bit long mode; these are mostly limited to certain low-end processors predating Nehalem. Some very old AMD64 processors also lack this feature. Early AMD64 processors lacked the CMPXCHG16B instruction, which is an extension of the CMPXCHG8B instruction present on most post-80486 processors. Similar to CMPXCHG8B, CMPXCHG16B allows for atomic operations on octal words. This is useful for parallel algorithms that use compare and swap on data larger than the size of a pointer, common in lock-free and wait-free algorithms. Without CMPXCHG16B one must use workarounds, such as a critical section or alternative lock-free approaches. Its absence also prevents 64-bit Windows prior to Windows 8.1 from having a user-mode address space larger than 8 terabytes. The 64-bit version of Windows 8.1 requires the instruction. Try Windows 11 On GA-8i865gme-775
as an aside, just because 'ancient' cpus can, doesn't mean all boards can. i've got a bunch of older hardware that in theory can, but the bios/cipset doesn't let the installer run. notably all my old nc6400 laptops (which have core 2 duo's that are 64bit capable), and a few p4 boards i have (with some spare p4 641s which have the required instruction set). the installer just doesn't start. blinking cursor of doom. in spite of the cpus having the proper LAHF/SAHF support in 64-bit mode. even if the cpu supports it, the chipset or bios may be preventing it. which is sad. there's going to be some mix and match needed if you're trying to put 11 on an old set of hardware. so you may need to find other bios files to flash, or a different board in some cases, after verifying your cpu has the right 64bit support.
well my last two gaming computer I had,Where brought back in the year 2020,Was 4 years ago,They did not like Windows 11,Just went as far as Windows 11 setup and wont load,Ive upgraded my gaming computers now
I am assuming without watching that its an LGA 775or maybe even a late 604 (never seen or tinkered with a socket 604 so have no idea what they are capable pf but I have had windows 10 at least running on 775 cpus but 7 max on late 478. Obviously with hacks, I have windows 11 on my i7 3770K PC, as it is still a pretty decent system with 16 GB DDR3 2400, 980Ti, 500GB SSD and 500GB Hybrid SSHD (I use it as mainly an XP PC and find the hybrid drives less hassle with pre mainstream SSD OS's as you get the speed boost thanks to the cache which is plenty for XP or 98SE for instance , without having to worry about TRIM and the like) and thats currently my oldest, but I did put it on my old XP PC which was a Socket 771 xeon.
I have tried many laptop CPUs, including a Celeron N4000, J series Celerons too, and my current i5 2520m, and would not recommend. Heck, even 10 was a bit much for some of them. I miss many old things, the Celeron line is not one of them.
Ei no meu caso eu não vou instalar o Windows 98 no meu pc porque meu pc é novo e não dá para instalar o w98 E impossível rodar o w10 e o w11 em pc muito antigo
Only the two last generations of Athlon 64 (on AM2 socket) would maybe will work. The same as for windows 10. It's another problem of not clear minimal requirements from Mircrosoft. Windows 10 64 bit requires CMPXCHG16B instruction, which no Athlon 64 on socket 754 or 939 has, but on socket AM2 versions it is present.
INCORRECT - even though Windows 11 can run on much older CPUs than official requirements - these official requirements were made like this because of the support for TPM 2.0 which those old CPUs do not support. Micro$oft wants people to feel "SECURE" bullshit, so only CPUs that support TPM 2.0 - I have a 13th gen Intel process which does support TPM 2.0 and even so I disable all that SHIT and core isolation SHIT anyway, I prefer to rely on 3rd party software for my security than Micro$oft's built in shit.
Ok now i know i can install windows 11 in my pc but should i? my laptop specs are core i3 3rd gen with 4gb ram and an 128gb ssd. Will i be able to run it smoothly or it is better for me to just stay on windows 10?
it says the one that support DX12 right? what if i have GTX 750ti that only support DX11, should i unplug it first, install the Windows 11, then plugging in it one more time?
@@RamtechENG i already have windows 10 license. if i fresh install windows 11, do i need to buy the win11 one? and is it work with any motherboard? because i use dell optiplex 9020
And what does this tell us that backward compatibility in the latest window is really working out of the box imagine how small and smoth you can make windows if you remove support for older hardware let's say older that 11th gen 😅
What is your favorite operating system?
Windows 7
Windows Vista, XP, 7, & 10
linux ubuntu
@@MrIzaiah2007YT windows Vista had potential but because of hardware not being powerful enough to run Vista most people downgraded to xp
vista and 8.1
Everytime you say "Is this the end? Of course not!" makes me so relieved 😅
when he said '' honestly this foxconn is the worst motherboard i have seen in my entire life'' i lost it xDxD🤣🤣🤣
@@markelone7729 HAHAHA😂😂😂
now it truly is the end
earliest is 1st gen intel core or amd phenom ii
Insignificant amounts of trolling
One thing to keep in mind when messing about with modern CPU's on old hardware is hardware USB support. Even with a USB 3+ card, a lot of motherboards and CPU's can only reach USB 2 speeds. If all you're doing is data transfer etc - or even loading levels on emulation.... its worth being aware of. Its a fun project, but don't get over excited. Pushing old kit to still work is definitely worth while, especially for servers etc. BUT.... if you actually want a usable PC for not much money, look at Refurbs and Mini's, around the £150-250 mark - they hit all the bells and perform to modern standards. That said, I have an offline-only old P4 4.2Ghz Windows XP system purely for retro gaming, and I love it.
Actually from Rufus, you can preconfigure the Windows 11 USB to bypass the TPM and CPU requirements by default.
Great video, recently i upgraded my laptop with i5-7200U (7th Gen) with Geforce 920MX and 8 GB of RAM to Windows 11 x64 22H2, it's working well, old games running well, like GTA San Andreas, no errors. Greetings from Brazil, i like your channel.
We have same spec laptops lol
@@ari_1755, what is your laptop?
@@KlonoaSulista22 Acer Travelmate P249 N16Q1
@@ari_1755, my laptop is Samsung Expert X23 NP300E5M-XD1BR.
Wow they still used the 920MX on newer models? Wow.
My former laptop also had a 920MX, but the processor was a i5-6198DU (6th gen)
I am currently working at hospital in remote Russia, we got 1-2 core Intel Celeron based "PC's" with 2 gb of ram
And I put trimmed win11 on them, main difference in performance comes from removing as much background processes and ssd's ofc)
The way they work is tolerable :D
Good Job. How did you get past the TPM requirement?
@@SaanMigwell You can get past the TPM requirement by getting a Windows 11 ISO and flashing it onto a USB stick with Rufus, it automatically gives an option to disable the minimum system requirements, but you could also edit the registry like it was shown in this video.
Dang Russia that’s tough
can you make a video of the process, i understand it may be boring, but to me it is fascinating that windows 11 can be run on 2000 megabytes of ram and a celeron
I've got an old E-machines with the P4 641 (3.2ghz) I was kinda surprise they sold these CPU's so late in production. I might have to just fire up and play around with a copy of Windows 10 and see how it handles it? Thanks for the interesting tinkering of old hardware in this video Ramtech.
@Man-O-Sphere News Yeah, Sounds about right.
my 2017 laptop has a 1.2 ghz processor i think theres something wrong here
@@youraveragejoe23 Clock speed is not a valid designator of performance between different architectures. Your 2017 laptop has a CPU with a *base clock* of 1.7 GHz, it boosts higher. It also probably has 4-8 cores, where the Pentium 4 is only single core with HT in some models.
Even a Core 2 running at half the speed of a Pentium 4 will smoke it, and that was just one architecture later. Netburst was just that bad.
@@GGigabiteM its a pentium cpu and i have hp pavillion x360 m convertible 11m-ad113dx
I also have e-machines
Favorite operating system was XP , then windows 7 64 bit ... Your giving me ideas on how to use my older motherboards , thanks
Supposedly the Athlon 64 gained LAHF/SAHF support as soon as the first X2 dual core models were released in May of 2005, which would make it over half a year older than the P4 6x1 still. Might be worth checking out in another video if Win 11 only requires MMX, SSE/2/3 and some sorta 64 bit extension set (EM64T for Intel, AMD64 for AMD) otherwise. Undoubtedly the Pentium will be the slower of the two however, what a pile of trash Netburst was.
Well... Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit *didn't* work on my Opteron 165 and that CPU was released in August of 2005 to my knowledge, that CPU does have 2 cores and is technically AMD64.
I did however get Windows 10 32-bit to install on there, and it's surprisingly usable
@@RowanBird779 yes, the Socket 939 CPUs don't work with Windows 10/11 64-bit. The oldest CPUs that can run it are Pentium 4 6x1 and Celeron 4x0. For these old AMD CPUs you could try Windows 7 64-bit, you can run all the modern APPs without problems.
@@BaguetesGarage Celeron D with Cedar Mill core is the oldest and slowest actually, I got it running on a Celeron D 347 and an AGP platform, with FX 5500 graphics and DDR1 RAM
@@tehretrotech3977 oh yeah, these suckers were launched around mid 2006.
@@BaguetesGarage Oldest CPU supported by Windows 10 x64 is Pentium Extreme Edition 955 (January 2006).
Thanks for the additional infos!
I was able to experiment and install win11 in a 32bit laptop Acer Aspire One (AOD257), Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz with 2G of RAM only.The hardest part was finding hardware drivers. I am using it now in commenting on this video.
Windows 11 doesn’t have a 32 bit version..
@@comedyreliefguy5112 it can be done using some tweaks
@@sabaysaalon The Atom N570 is a 64 bit CPU.
There is no 32 bit build of Windows 11, and you aren't running it.
@@GGigabiteM he didn't claim either thing, he didn't say he had 32 bit win 11 nor that the cpu wasn't supporting 64 bit instructions
All he said was that the laptop was 32 bit, meaning it came with a 32 bit OS originally, and that's it.
3:00 Rufus has option to do that while making the bootable media it changes some config and binary files the same you can do manually.
According to windows 11 latest intel's decade old Pentium 4 CPU is supported by windows 11. however, Microsoft has not released an official list of CPUs that can run windows 11. instead, they have provided minimum system requirements for windows 11, which include a processor that is 1 gigahertz ghz or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).
Time to run windows 11 on that pentium D system I have laying somewhere in my basement
Bruh… I am using a 2009 Intel pentium T4400 dual core laptop from an Acer Aspire 5732z which has 3GB of RAM and can handle windows 11 soo smoothly. Beat that….
I also upgraded a Sony laptop (which has vista installed previously) which has a dual core pentium from i think 2006 and upgraded it to windows 11 and that runs smoothly!!
@@ItsHonskiit will go kabumm
The reason that the Pentium 4 6x1 had limited motherboard support is because it was released at the very end of the Pentium 4's lifecycle. Intel made it more as a test of their new 65nm node than as a marketable product. The 6x1 used the Cedar Mill core, which was basically a die shrunk Prescott-2M core.
By the time the Cedar Mill P4s came out, every Pentium 4 only chipset was a year or more old. Many motherboard manufacturers didn't bother making BIOS updates with the required microcode to support the newer CPUs. There wasn't much interest in doing so because Core 2 was just 6 months off and people were so fed up with the garbage that was the Pentium 4 that nobody was buying them.
The Cedar Mill P4s though did have one good use, upgrading terribly designed Dell SFF machines like the SX280, or GX280 SFF. Dell had the grand idea of putting 95-115W CPUs in a tiny case with zero ventilation and wondered why they lost billions in class action lawsuits over them baking to death.
The D0 stepping 6x1 processors had a 65W TDP and ran MUCH cooler and put significantly less strain on the power supplies of those machines, making them a lot more reliable. The sSpec of those starts with SL9K_. Replace _ with G = 631, F = 641, E = 651. Luck runs out on the 661 though (SL9KD), as it's an 86W part.
If you want guaranteed support for these late P4's, you'll need a motherboard with a 965 or 30 series chipset (P31, G31/33, P35, Q33/35). Intel officially dropped Netburst support on 30 series chipsets, but most motherboards still supported them.
Wow. I didn’t know that. Thank you
@@RamtechENGRun either windows 11 or 10 on a 386.
Anwser Is:
Since 2012, when Windows 8 came out, Microsoft increased one of the requirements for running newer Windows such as Windows 8, one of which is the support of LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode, which is also required to run Windows 11.
Tengo una PC con estás características la tengo para juegos retro con Windows XP, jamás se me ocurrió hacer está locura 😵💫🤣 gran video!!
lo estoy corriendo en una dell inspiron con un core2 duo en 1.3ghz y 8 de ram XD. me salta de vez en vez el error de el dispositivo no cuenta con TPM pero a pesar de funcionar un poco lento todos los dispositivos de la laptop funcionan bien.
could you try athlon next? the athlon x64 came out in 2003 and the 64 x2 came in 2005, so they're even older.
AMD Athlon 3000G processor with 16 Gb RAM and a video card 1050 with 4 Gb, a ssd with 120 Gb and another HDD with 160 Gb. This is a nice setup I own.
Thank to this video i have windows 11 on a lenovo 3000 n100. 4gb ram. Upgraded from core duo t2350 to core 2 duo t5500. Intel graphics
4:43 Windows 8 was the latest version sold and bootable from disc. Since Win10 the box included a USB stick. Idk if 8.1 works.
I'm surprised big organizations aren't catering for legacy setups (without people having to do work around/patches) it would be so much more fun if they did. Best wishes, Stefan, Jersey, Channel Islands.
Hello :) When Windows 11 came out I was still using a computer that i made in 2013 Using a very old i3 CPU and a GTS graphics card. :)
😒👍 Very Cool, thanks for the testing bench
There is a problem with your install metod, 630 and 631 have the same instruction support, Cedar Mill was just 65nm version of Prescott 2M, anything Cedar Mill runs, Prescott 2M will run too.
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit.
I have known for 4 years that after transferring the install.wim file from Win 11 ISO to Win 10 ISO, it will run on Pentium 4 or AMD 64 (minimum requirements for Windows 10) because older processors do not have, SSE2 Instructions, NX and other
I had tried w11 on dual core Celeron of mid 2016. It had been running with not problem.
4:54 This is the Windows 10 Logo
i didint watch the full video but you can use rufus to do that when u click ready or smt it will ask you questions tho u need to tick the box and there is a one saying bypass hardware check so yeah
There are linux distros like Gentoo that are super light and still have full support for 32-bit systems. It would be interesting to see what the oldest computer that can still run a modern OS is.
Debian also supports 32bit
Run linux with 1975 PC
yeah except Gentoo is a giant pain in the ass to install and run
I wonder if it would run on the first 64 bit Opteron or Athlon64s that came out in 2003/2004?
(B4 watching the video) nah win11 can run on 32bit systems. i tested that myself a few months after win11's release
@@itsarian. nope, you can t run windows 10 64 bit/ windows 11 on amd athlon 64(socket 754, 939) and opteron, because they lack an instruction for 64 bit versions of windows 8, 10 and windows 11
@@itsarian. No, you can't
Tried on my Opteron X2 165 from mid 2005 and no, they don't have all the 64-bit x86 instructions
The oldest AMD chips that work are Semprons for AM2, they are single-core and have all required instructions
the pentium 4 630 actually has 64 bit support, but it doesnt have some instructions that windows 11 needs, enderman has a video on it
If you build the windows 11 usb using rufus you dont need most of the system requirements.
This guy has very good information on this stuff.EX If I ever install windows 7 or any that he made a video on a modern computer I can look back and see the stuff that he use to help me. Thanks
I tried upgrading to windows 10 on a pentium dual core PC with a Award BIOS chip and a error message says "Invalid partition table"
You need just convert your disk to gpt
@@RamtechENG well I instead upgraded to a gaming PC (Dell optiplex 390) that had windows 10 in it.
Also I don't use windows 11, sorry
@@RamtechENG also my gaming PC (dell optiplex 390) uses a second generation core i5 processor that has a little bit of text glitches on browsing the web on chrome
0:12 I have the same pc case what a coincidence XD
Windows 11 on a mid 2012 MacBook Pro is awesome. Put an SSD and 16gb of ram in it and you are set. If someone is on a budget I recommend looking for a mid 2012 and just run Windows 11 on it.
Did it explode ??
Nah bro. You shouldn’t have said did it explode when you watched a video of 8K
they were not made in china
depends on what kind of pentium you have but if it can run atleast 144 - 720p you have the all clear
You awessome pal, is all need for rebuild my older PC, excellent video, take my like pal, 👍
good video! keep going! I subscribed!
There's an Athlon 64 2000+ for the AM2 platform which is 64-bit, single core and clock speed of 1GHz.
can someone explain to me why this cpu is as follows on passmark:
Average CPU Mark
rating
295
Single Thread Rating: 664
How is the CPU mark lower than the single core? I thought it was usually (almost) a sum of the total cores doing all the work.
eg. 8700k is 13.7k passmark while single core is 2.7k
math says 2.7k * 6 = around 16k which isnt that far off the total score I guess?
This video reminds me about my old pc. The processor is athlon 64 x2 4600+. With 4gb 667mhz ddr2 ram. And geforce 8400 GS. It runs windows 10 build 1151 i think (i forgot the build number). And it was very slow. It cant play 720p video. And very lagging at 480p. But im kind of surprised that the cpu managed to run windows 10. Even though it was unusable
i have the problem after windows 11 setup installes the files . it shows BSOD with the error code watchdog
Why do you think installing 64 bit OSwith 2GB of RAM is a facepalm?
1.32bit vs 64-bit is not only about RAM
2.32bit won't support 4GB or more, but it doesn't mean 64bit won't support less than 4GB
2.64bit software uses more memory due to pointer sizes, but this is only couple percent more.
great video, unfortunate that it didn't get the like goal
Did anyone else have an issue with the "doesn't meet sys. Requirements" wall persisting after making the bypasses in RegEdit?? I really need help here.
HP Pavillion A6220n with A 2 core processor of 2.2 ghz. (I'm fighting the pc rn but it exceeds minimal Requirements.
6GB of Ram as well.
pentium 4 has all the suppport that windows 11 needs
Nice video !
But what about Windows Update? Is any issue?
Ati x1800 series is the oldest I've tried, tho the drivers will not let the gpu boost anymore and the CP is nonfunctional.
Excellent efforts 🎉 🎉
Ty
great video very entertaining
Windows 7 Ultimate has been the most stable OS I've had since DOS. Under every other OS I've had at least one BSOD during its run. With Win 7 the only failures I've had were hardware failures.
This mobo has a Realtek LAN controller right? Check if Windows 11 will boot when you don't connect the Ethernet cable
earned a sub, great content
1:38 Windows 11 can be installed, according to MS, with at least 4 gb of RAM but it doesn't always run smoothly .
You should try a light version of windows 11 on that p4 651, would be much faster!
So I actually can install Windows 11 on my 7700k. Good to know.
He said windows 11 installation but it is the windows 10/8 logo
Hey bro I am using windows 7 in my ho laptop and my driver of wifi is missing I have tried to download it from hp officials, third party websites, driverpack solutions software but it didn't worked for me , according to you what should I do next
Use another computer and flash a USB stick with tiny 11 using Rufus program. Then stick the flash drive in your windows 7 pc in the boot menu. This fixed my wifi issue. Upgraded from windows 10 to windows 11. Upgrading to tiny 11 will fix the wifi.
If 100Bucks solution doesn't work you can buy an usb internet adapter.
Im surprised you couldn't install windows 11 on a 32-bit system. I personally was able to install windows 11 on a 32-bit system but it had a slow hdd and it was just pure pain
Microsoft no longer works with 32-bit systems nor does it support 32-bit processors anymore, so much so that Microsoft made Windows 11 only for 64-bit processors. Sorry any english error, english is not my native language.
There is no 32 bit version. Either you got a modified copy to make it work, or your CPU isn't 32 bit, it's 64.
@@antonisautos8704 my cpu was probably 64 bit but i had 2gb of ram
@@antonisautos8704 I was able to install it in a 32bit laptop AOD257 model with only 2G of RAM. Of course I need to do something by converting 32bit hardware “virtually” into a 64bit hardware. Finding drivers is hard though but successfully did it.
yes errors. Greetings from Brazil, i like your channel.
Btw you will need WDDM graphics card. XPDM graphics card is not supported in Windows 8 and later, so you will be stuck in software acceleration with basic video adapter.
Basically, if it has drivers for Vista and up, it will work.
Really shows you how bogus the CPU requirements are.
But still lower than what Microsoft really wants
Answer: 9:48.
I forgot where I found it but there is a cd image that can be used to boot usb drives as a bit of workaround. I last used it to install windows 7 on a machine that didn’t support booting from usb and only had a cd drive
Hi, I'm trying to install Windows 11 23H2 on a i7 2600 CPU, but after the procedure with regedit I still have the same error on requirements. It is changed something in Windows 11 23H2 checks?
630 should have 64bit instruction set, how come it doesnt work ? I thought the 1st 64 bit is P4 620
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit.
Wonder how installing it on unsupported hardware effects updates and security...
sir i have laptop with
i 2323 m processor 64 bit
i3 2 gen laptop
1 GB 640 m gpu
16 GB 833 mhz ram can upgrade to 1600 mhz
can run windows 11
i can add ssd insted of HDD and DVD
It was interesting seeing Windows 11 run on much older hardware, but IDK about “without any issues”. You need to make modifications to the registry to get it to run, and you only showed the OS running (and using as much as 60% of the CPU cycles). Can you actually do anything on that system?
I’m not sure you need to do something. Everything is working like on any other PC. But I think some software may not run because of CPU
@@RamtechENG I only bring that up because the point of having a computer is to use it. It’s great that one can get a modern OS to run on such old hardware, but what would the point be if you can’t use the system?
I’m not trying to be negative, just speaking from the experience of daily driving a computer designed for Windows 98 that I managed to get XP working on. It was barely usable for browsing the internet and nothing else.
There is something missing in these instructions. After i make the registry changes how do i get the install to restart as it does not do it automatically. i have the two windows open one with the regedit and the other where you typed in regedit.
Because the 90nm older 630 and 640 CPU’s are lacking the instruction set CMPXCHG16B which is compulsory since Windows 8.1. Also that’s the reason why the CPU can’t utilize more than 4gb ram even if it runs on 64-bit. I had this issue with a Pentium D 820 CPU
Hello, comrad. Haw to KRAK windows 11 safely and without possible leaks of data?
My current pc uses a i3 2120 with 8GB of Ram and nvidia geforce GT 240. And it can run windows 11
Take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt, but there's a chance this would work on a socket 478 board, I thinking using a Pentium 4 SL7QB.
The SL7QB, and SL7Q8, to the extent of my (rather limited) knowledge do support 64-bit instructions
@Man-O-Sphere News Yup. that's what the "take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt" is all about
@Man-O-Sphere News Unless you patch it Windows 11 needs at least TPM 2.0
Problem with that CPU is that Intel made it in limited quantities for one specific manufacturer in less than a handful of specific machines. Not many of them existed to begin with, and even fewer exist today. Good luck finding one for a reasonable price, the last time I saw one in the wild, it went for hundreds of dollars.
@@JordanAnderson-pp5hu Windows 11 generally doesn't need a TPM at all, they just really want you to have one.
I'm pretty sure socket AM3 motherboards don't have TPM 2.0 but Windows 11 worked fine on mine
Quick answer: Its Intel Pentium 4 HT 651
Since 2012, when Windows 8 came out, Microsoft increased Two of the requirements for running newer Windows such as Windows 8, one of which is the support of LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode And CMPXCHG16B, which is also required to run Windows 11.
I hope Windows 12 does not fulfill one of its requirements
What Is The LAHF/SAHF in 64-bit mode And CMPXCHG16B?
The LAHF and SAHF load and store the contents of the AH register into the flags register, respectively (Intel Instruction Set Reference, PDF pages 530 and 1025). Some older Intel processors without hardware virtualization (VT-x) functionality do not support this instruction when running in 64-bit long mode; these are mostly limited to certain low-end processors predating Nehalem. Some very old AMD64 processors also lack this feature.
Early AMD64 processors lacked the CMPXCHG16B instruction, which is an extension of the CMPXCHG8B instruction present on most post-80486 processors. Similar to CMPXCHG8B, CMPXCHG16B allows for atomic operations on octal words. This is useful for parallel algorithms that use compare and swap on data larger than the size of a pointer, common in lock-free and wait-free algorithms. Without CMPXCHG16B one must use workarounds, such as a critical section or alternative lock-free approaches. Its absence also prevents 64-bit Windows prior to Windows 8.1 from having a user-mode address space larger than 8 terabytes. The 64-bit version of Windows 8.1 requires the instruction.
Try Windows 11 On GA-8i865gme-775
what about ryzen cpu?
as an aside, just because 'ancient' cpus can, doesn't mean all boards can. i've got a bunch of older hardware that in theory can, but the bios/cipset doesn't let the installer run. notably all my old nc6400 laptops (which have core 2 duo's that are 64bit capable), and a few p4 boards i have (with some spare p4 641s which have the required instruction set). the installer just doesn't start. blinking cursor of doom. in spite of the cpus having the proper LAHF/SAHF support in 64-bit mode.
even if the cpu supports it, the chipset or bios may be preventing it. which is sad. there's going to be some mix and match needed if you're trying to put 11 on an old set of hardware.
so you may need to find other bios files to flash, or a different board in some cases, after verifying your cpu has the right 64bit support.
ok. but what about the slowest? whip out an old netbook with 1GB of ram and try if it runs?
Your William Shatner impersonation is spot on
It's awesome that you can however I'd rather get a tooth pulled than actually use a P4 on anything, even when they came out I didn't use them.
well my last two gaming computer I had,Where brought back in the year 2020,Was 4 years ago,They did not like Windows 11,Just went as far as Windows 11 setup and wont load,Ive upgraded my gaming computers now
I have windows 11 on a old Dell, but I cannot get past the version 21H2
Hp laptop COMPAQ XN 9020 can run windows 11???
What about trying the same thing with AMD Motherboard and AMD CPU？
If you have AM2 or newer AMD platform, you should be fine.
I am assuming without watching that its an LGA 775or maybe even a late 604 (never seen or tinkered with a socket 604 so have no idea what they are capable pf but I have had windows 10 at least running on 775 cpus but 7 max on late 478. Obviously with hacks, I have windows 11 on my i7 3770K PC, as it is still a pretty decent system with 16 GB DDR3 2400, 980Ti, 500GB SSD and 500GB Hybrid SSHD (I use it as mainly an XP PC and find the hybrid drives less hassle with pre mainstream SSD OS's as you get the speed boost thanks to the cache which is plenty for XP or 98SE for instance , without having to worry about TRIM and the like) and thats currently my oldest, but I did put it on my old XP PC which was a Socket 771 xeon.
I have tried many laptop CPUs, including a Celeron N4000, J series Celerons too, and my current i5 2520m, and would not recommend.
Heck, even 10 was a bit much for some of them.
I miss many old things, the Celeron line is not one of them.
how did you manage to perfectly record the screen?
Capture card + apadters
Do you know how to install windows 10 on a pentium D? When I tried it it just restarts after showing the logo. It is a 64 bit and it has 4 gb of ram
Of course. You can do the same way. You can try 32bit version
Dunno about 651 but surely I'm gonna try put an RTX4080 in my oldest surviving PC: E8500/8GB DDR2/X48 MB
I had Windows 11 running on a Athlon 64 3200+ from May 23, 2006. There is a video on my channel about it. No problems like on intel.
Ei no meu caso eu não vou instalar o Windows 98 no meu pc porque meu pc é novo e não dá para instalar o w98
E impossível rodar o w10 e o w11 em pc muito antigo
I have an old HP ProLiant G8 without UEFI… Do you think I can install Windows 11 Pro on it?
You can install it on any PC with pentium 4 631 or higher
Does windows 11 still support legacy BIOS? I have heard from somewhere that it has shifted to UEFI.
Yes, windows 11 is support legacy mode
Try also an AMD Athlon 64. They are fully 64bit.
Only the two last generations of Athlon 64 (on AM2 socket) would maybe will work. The same as for windows 10. It's another problem of not clear minimal requirements from Mircrosoft. Windows 10 64 bit requires CMPXCHG16B instruction, which no Athlon 64 on socket 754 or 939 has, but on socket AM2 versions it is present.
My Setting of NAS with old PC: DDR2 to DDR3 Ram card version PC
INCORRECT - even though Windows 11 can run on much older CPUs than official requirements - these official requirements were made like this because of the support for TPM 2.0 which those old CPUs do not support. Micro$oft wants people to feel "SECURE" bullshit, so only CPUs that support TPM 2.0 - I have a 13th gen Intel process which does support TPM 2.0 and even so I disable all that SHIT and core isolation SHIT anyway, I prefer to rely on 3rd party software for my security than Micro$oft's built in shit.
Windows 11 Dropped The Support For CPUs From Merom To Kaby Lake!
Requires Kaby Lake R Or Above!
Just managed to run win11 on 4gb ddr3 and pentium 3556U, even nvidia installer used 80% of cpu +- ofc maxing it out
Ok now i know i can install windows 11 in my pc but should i? my laptop specs are core i3 3rd gen with 4gb ram and an 128gb ssd. Will i be able to run it smoothly or it is better for me to just stay on windows 10?
Where is the promised follow up? With modern gpu?
Can You Install a Modern GPU on an Old PC and Playing Games?
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it says the one that support DX12 right? what if i have GTX 750ti that only support DX11, should i unplug it first, install the Windows 11, then plugging in it one more time?
No. No need to unplug. Just install windows 11 and drivers
@@RamtechENG i already have windows 10 license. if i fresh install windows 11, do i need to buy the win11 one? and is it work with any motherboard? because i use dell optiplex 9020
Upgrade to Windows 11 for free when in Windows 10
And what does this tell us that backward compatibility in the latest window is really working out of the box imagine how small and smoth you can make windows if you remove support for older hardware let's say older that 11th gen 😅