Something I found useful when playing Crim's version of this deck, was to be much more aggressive in phasing out your opponent's creatures. In addition, Rona's Vortex as an extra bounce spell while keeping up counters can save you in the matches where you're not finding the creatures, like Match 2.
@@loganjohnson4257 definitely do that. removal is so so important in these decks, and the otherworldly gaze should make up for the loss of filtering. plus, consider is often a nonbo with the delver.
@@Frostgiantbutsmall I think if you're going to play Rona's Vortex you need to add black mana, which will up the budget. Still a good option though for sure.
@@MTGGoldfish Honestly, only for the kicker, which I think is out of mana budget for how this deck wants to play; it remains a fifth or sixth or seventh fading hope even without that black mana budgeted in, which is probably an okay sideboard.
I remember watching the game that you used footage of! Watching Autumn Burchett ride their list to victory was super cool. It does feel pretty nostalgic getting a similar deck back in standard with arguably even more efficient threats than the first version between Delver and Ledger Shredder.
32:12 A cool trick would have been to double cast the Otherworldly since it would be discounted by the Djinn, triggering the Ledger Shredder and most likely setting up a nonland on top with the first cast of Otherworldy resolving. Then the Shredder would've grown too big for the Cut Down to work :D
That RB Lagomos deck was SUPER sweet Gharna is incredibly powerful. They just didn’t have a sideboard plan for mono u tempo curiosity which is understandable. I am certainly going to build this but I will definitely be adding 3 Lilliana to the sideboard and, if I can afford it, 4 Sheoldred to the main board because f*** your card draw. Also there is a busted version of warhorn in DMU that costs RB2 (or R2 if lethal) and draws for each dead attacking creature. The value is so powerful. I feel like this is the one deck that gets to use Meathook Massacre as it was intended- by sacrificing its own creatures in blood artist style. Too bad meathook will be banned soon.
I think that could be a great add! I think the one point in essence scatter’s favor is the cost reduction from the djinn, but that upside would definitely come up less often than the +1/+1 counter.
The upside of Essence Scatter is that it takes advantage of Haughty Djinn's cost reduction. Personally I think that makes it worthwhile, even getting a +1/+1 counter would be nice.
I think there was an early scoop at end of match 2. The Shore Up untaps and pumps, so it could have kept Seth alive for one more turn. Unless the opponent had instant speed removal, which they very well might have. Still, fun to watch :)
I know it’s supposed to be budget mtg, but adding one copy of Otawara should be considered. It just makes the deck strictly better with only 1 rare. It’s just shy of being $15 a copy, so I get that it probably made the cut due to that. With that being said, it’s tough building a competitive deck under $100. Seth you are always the bestest for trying!!
@@eddiekalista3222 Ah, I didn't consider that. Good point. I know I run Capture over Scatter in my tempo deck, but that's also Explorer and it doesn't really have any cost reducers. Still, I like this deck.
I think it's close. Essence Capture gives the counters, which is nice. Essence Scatter costs just one mana with Djinn, which is nice. Personally I like the cost reduction more than the counter, but it could go either way.
I feel like Ledger Shredder isn't actually that great in this deck. It wants you to double-cast so that you can connive, but this deck's general plan wants you to be really conservative with your card use. You probably could've gotten a 4-rare deck that was ALMOST as good as this one if you just replaced the Shredders with Stormchaser Drakes.
True, but don't forget that Shredder also punishes your opponent for double spelling. Also, countering an opponent's spell during your turn plus a consider at end step is enough to set off Shredder
Mono blue haughty all counters was my first brew idea for standard as a returning player since I was expected to face a lot of liliana and sheoldred control decks. Still on the fence about playing standard again but glad to see I wasnt wrong about haughty. In modern you could do a similar deck with that UUU flyer from dominaria og set since you just run islands. Great deck man.
I'm running something similar, but my creature base is only 2 delvers and 4 djinn. You can knock a lot off the value by running this list: Card draw is all through spells. 8 rares, much cheaper and it lets you play a set March of Swirling Mist which is such a versatile card both protecting your djinn and countering your opponent's gamewinning swing. 4x Consider 2x Delver of Secrets 4x Fading Hope 4x March of Swirling Mist 2x Shore Up 3x Syncopate 4x Impulse 2x Make Disappear 3x Negate 3x Ertai's Scorn 4x Haughty Djinn 4x Thirst for Discovery 1x Case the Joint 20x Island OR 19x Island 1x Otwara (You big spender, you!)
I play something similar. My wildcard situation dictated my deck choice a little. Not a fan of the terror. Not usually worth the cost IMO. I run 4x Shore up and 4x Slip out the back for protection. All this black warrants it IMO. 4x combat research for draw. And 4x consider. 4x make disappear for spells. 4x fade away and always happy to have one in hand. Creature suite is 4x delver. 4x ledger shredder. 2x suspicious stowaway. 2x Haughty Djinn. 4x stormdrake. 20 lands. Still too many lands most times haha. Stowaway is awesome being unblockable. Deck runs smooth. Just mostly dependent on the coin flip as with most things haha.
Terror is a lot better than ledger shredder for me, I do put in Delver though as a guilty pleasure but most people run less creatures, Idk about most of your creature choices tbh. I don't doubt you get decent wins it's just not that optimised, the highest win percentages come from literally just Djinn and a Terror or two.
@@Spaced92 I just tried to bring the MV down to be honest. Most of the time, there aren’t enough spells in the bin to justify terror. Delver is a great 1 drop. Otherworldly gaze is awesome to set it up. I could see putting that in if you want. But going down a card to set it up wasn’t worth it for me. Stormdrake draws many cards and removal spells haha. Target it with combat research, draw a card, etc. Djinn and Stowaway as 2x is because of wildcards. Both have been awesome. Especially if you get to flip stowaway. Ledger shredder is great against aggro and red decks, has been underwhelming otherwise. I have the number of creatures that I do to keep up the threat density. Always want 1 or 2 on the board. Always seems like I want to have an extra fade away or 2. The games I do lose are usually 1 tempo play away from winning. How would you go about optimizing it?
Best versions of this I have seen play less as aggro and more as control over the early turns. A lot don't have delver and main 4 of the terror because the ward saves on casting counters. Waits till 4 or 5 mana and starts hitting back
So basically 99% of the cost of the deck is just Ledger Shredder, right ? Been running this archetype in draft with UR spells. The curiosity is good with battle mage (legendary UR 1/3 flyer) and twincast means you hit for minimum 6 draw 2 with so much versatility. I could be wrong but I think this deck and a mix of the Ivy archetype (maybe green maybe not) and the UR prowess deck might be a format all star. I’ve also really liked Micromage to tutor up Shore Up/cantrips but it may be too slow for constructed but it seems like it could be insane when you have 5 mana and a flyer with two curiosity’s perhaps as a sideboard card as the 1 mana kicker spell that gives -1/-0 and forces blocked could be okay last resort for dealing with Sheoldred too. Also- Tolarian terror (and the other cost reduction creatures) have been format defining in UMA draft. You could combine the force block cantrip with terror to trade a 2 mana Terror for a Sheoldred and perhaps others with tricks ALSO also Fires of Victory has been BUSTED when you keep your hand full via curiosity and worst case scenario it’s actually that old 5 mana desk 4 draw a card. That all said this deck may just be the meta answer to Sheoldred black with 4 essence scatter
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Tolarian terror is a house and you did it dirty in the early games. 1 mana 5/5 with ward 2 is so good. And even if it's at its worst you play so many instants that you will almost never pay the full price.
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I actually run a terrible version of match 3’s sac deck in mardu. It’s like a weird mix of legends matter/sacrifice/aristocrats where you combine lagomos, braids, and Elas il-Kor to sacrifice the free token every turn to braids and drain for 1. Even more fun when you add in something like ratadrabik or Kiki-Jiki. Again, not good but very fun
Agreed with the mixed feelings towards that deck. It is really annoying to play against, then again so elegant with such a straight strategy and so few rares in it. The Djinn is really nuts though!
Hey Seth so for spook-tober can you play Halloween theme decks? If cryptic serpent is legal in standard can you put him in there if he isn't rotated out
It's really easy to make mistakes piloting MUT, and most of the wins come from people not understanding how to beat it. Some of the most satisfying games I've played are playing MUT against someone who knows how to beat it, and both of us navigating around all the counterplay. That having been said, I completely understand why people feel it's a miserable experience to go up against.
The curious obsession decks actually made for a lot of fun games, I get why people hate it but besides the Spirits or the comparable Simic Flash deck, I find them to be interesting play patterns and like you say, a lot of people lose constantly because they counter the wrong things or lose patience and play out creatures when they shouldn't.
As much as I love it, it's a big dumb beater with no evasion or trample. Sure it can come out under costed, but very rarely will it come out significantly ahead of the curve due to the need to put a lot of spells in the yard first. With the number of wedding announcements in the format, terror just gets chump blocked into oblivion and never accomplishes anything.
Seth:"Tolarian Terror was pretty dissapointing" Also Seth:"get outa here. I ain't given you no chance to prove yourself. I already imagine you being bad. A 3 mana 5/5 Ward 2? Bah. I'd rather play my 2 mana 2/4 flier, or my 1 mana 3/2 flier, or my 3 mana 7/4 flier. I need fliers, and what are you? That's right, you're just a big dumb snake. 3 mana for a 5/5 Ward 2, bah. This is 2022 magic. Get wings you dirtbag"
terror definitely shines in a more sorcery/instant heavy build without shreddy boi and research. ertai's scorn and thirst for knowledge are good replacements
Hey Seth!! Got a quick question for you cuz I'd like your opinion on something. How do you feel about running a few common fetches like Brokers Hideout in a deck like this to help with deck thinning and prevent flooding? I've been testing it in my budget decks at home and I've felt pretty good about the results so I was wondering what your thoughts on it would be :)
Ive been seeing this deck everywhere and I'm honestly surprised to see you didn't make it yourself since almost every other budget or jank deck is a Saffron Special
It's funny honestly. I Hate playing vs the deck and would never play it myself. But I don't mind seeing others, especially high level people play decks like this. It's probably because it can be neat seeing how they sequence spells and attacking.
When they go island and pass a couple of turns, I know I am in for some suffering. I have a decent record against that tho. I play a set of uncountable burn or try to double spell at the end of their turns, so I can cast something on my own. :P
MARK MY WORDS: *Slip out the Back* is gonna win a Pro Tour. It just does too much in too many situations. Lastly, Voltron-style builds have a legit shot competitively now.
I don't think you want delvers in this deck honestly. The most annoying version I've faced is 4 haughty djinn, 3 tolarian terror, and then way more counters.
I wonder if there's a u/w version of this with Emperor and the Kamigawa channel lands? Also potentially Teferi? Although at that point it's not budget and getting away from the main focus of the deck
You're talking about a control deck at that point. This is designed to be an aggressive deck with high interaction, similar to merfolk. As it was already said if you want to go U/W, virtuoso is what you would be looking at. Using storm drake and virtuoso as you main threats while growing them and pumping them with targeting spells. A lot of newer versions of the deck go baby so you can also run ivy since you can double up your pump spells with her.
Honestly I think going slightly over paper/mtgo budget is fine for standard. It's annoying that Arena's economy isn't compatible with rest, but it's still worth considering arena, since it is part of the game
As annoying as the salty rope is, when I was playing arena I always took it as a compliment. Needs to be noted my playstyle would be considered kinda "Crimmy" by goldfish standards. Edit to say: as it stands delver has always been "sketchy good" like the most frustrating good card ever. With the introduction of Balmor, delver made it back into my modern izzet delver, which wasn't running delver for a while cuz DRC.
I feel like Arena's shuffler is broken with respect to lands. This kind of screw happens to me in probably 60% of my games if I run fewer than 22-23 lands.
No joke never play Standard on Arena just brawl and i just thought that looks fun threw it together except for faerie Vandal instead of the ledger and i am killing it
Before I watch all the games I just wanted to quickly shout out Tolarian Terror, I made a deck filled with counterspells, cantrips and otherworldly gaze and let me tell you a Terror on turn 3 it's pretty devastating to beat
No offense Seth, but I enjoyed the games where you completely got blown out more than the times the deck functioned normally. The original mono u tempo made me quit arena last time it was around, and this one is just as bad.
35:44 I like how seth says how the opponent is playing around spell pierce, while it is shown
He was playing kinda badly this video
@@Zombi3NinjaKing We managed to go 4-1 despite my punts. That's the sign of a good budget deck!
Something I found useful when playing Crim's version of this deck, was to be much more aggressive in phasing out your opponent's creatures. In addition, Rona's Vortex as an extra bounce spell while keeping up counters can save you in the matches where you're not finding the creatures, like Match 2.
So swap the considers for ronas?
@@loganjohnson4257 definitely do that. removal is so so important in these decks, and the otherworldly gaze should make up for the loss of filtering. plus, consider is often a nonbo with the delver.
@@Frostgiantbutsmall I think if you're going to play Rona's Vortex you need to add black mana, which will up the budget. Still a good option though for sure.
@@MTGGoldfish Honestly, only for the kicker, which I think is out of mana budget for how this deck wants to play; it remains a fifth or sixth or seventh fading hope even without that black mana budgeted in, which is probably an okay sideboard.
the real question for me is how long haughty djinn will be haunting us 👻
If Djinn goes down they're taking Shelley with it 😢
Btw @mtggoldfish - haughty basically means arrogant. He’s really proud of himself 😂
@mtggoldfish just Imagine the djinn is french
Forever if you play pioneer
until it rotates and maybe after that? :p
if you wanna play this deck in paper without buying Ledger Shredders, Suspicious Stowaway is a pretty solid replacement
Haughty(Haw-Tea), is kind of like arrogant
He succeeded in making his opponents and his viewers salty, by purposely miss pronouncing this.
I remember watching the game that you used footage of! Watching Autumn Burchett ride their list to victory was super cool. It does feel pretty nostalgic getting a similar deck back in standard with arguably even more efficient threats than the first version between Delver and Ledger Shredder.
Haughty Djinn is so much better than the Djinn in standard at the time of curious obsession
32:12 A cool trick would have been to double cast the Otherworldly since it would be discounted by the Djinn, triggering the Ledger Shredder and most likely setting up a nonland on top with the first cast of Otherworldy resolving. Then the Shredder would've grown too big for the Cut Down to work :D
I liked the Halloween theme you had going today with the "Haunty Djinn"s :D
That RB Lagomos deck was SUPER sweet Gharna is incredibly powerful. They just didn’t have a sideboard plan for mono u tempo curiosity which is understandable. I am certainly going to build this but I will definitely be adding 3 Lilliana to the sideboard and, if I can afford it, 4 Sheoldred to the main board because f*** your card draw.
Also there is a busted version of warhorn in DMU that costs RB2 (or R2 if lethal) and draws for each dead attacking creature. The value is so powerful. I feel like this is the one deck that gets to use Meathook Massacre as it was intended- by sacrificing its own creatures in blood artist style.
Too bad meathook will be banned soon.
Run essence capture over essence scatter.
It's the same card in this deck, except you get a +1/+1 counter on one of your flyers
I think that could be a great add! I think the one point in essence scatter’s favor is the cost reduction from the djinn, but that upside would definitely come up less often than the +1/+1 counter.
Scatter can be cast for 1 mana.
Good Theory. If not a 1-of Main Deck, def. a 2-of sideboard tech v. Midrange and Mono-Black X.
The upside of Essence Scatter is that it takes advantage of Haughty Djinn's cost reduction. Personally I think that makes it worthwhile, even getting a +1/+1 counter would be nice.
Oooo spooky djinn so haunty
I think there was an early scoop at end of match 2. The Shore Up untaps and pumps, so it could have kept Seth alive for one more turn.
Unless the opponent had instant speed removal, which they very well might have.
Still, fun to watch :)
32:15 we could have gazed and set up a spell. And then flashback’d gaze to connive the shredder to a 2/4 so that it wouldn’t be cut down.
I know it’s supposed to be budget mtg, but adding one copy of Otawara should be considered. It just makes the deck strictly better with only 1 rare. It’s just shy of being $15 a copy, so I get that it probably made the cut due to that. With that being said, it’s tough building a competitive deck under $100. Seth you are always the bestest for trying!!
hey i know its very old comment, im very new to this game. can you explain how adding one otawara would be good in this deck?
Seth was so down on the terror but I don't think he drew it even once.
Wouldn't Essence Capture over Essence Scatter be the preferred creature counter since this is mono blue?
Not necessarily. Essence Scatter gets the cost reduction from Haughty Djinn.
@@eddiekalista3222 Ah, I didn't consider that. Good point. I know I run Capture over Scatter in my tempo deck, but that's also Explorer and it doesn't really have any cost reducers. Still, I like this deck.
I think it's close. Essence Capture gives the counters, which is nice. Essence Scatter costs just one mana with Djinn, which is nice. Personally I like the cost reduction more than the counter, but it could go either way.
@@MTGGoldfish 1 mana counters can be very oppressive. I think it’s the better choice in this build.
I feel like Ledger Shredder isn't actually that great in this deck. It wants you to double-cast so that you can connive, but this deck's general plan wants you to be really conservative with your card use.
You probably could've gotten a 4-rare deck that was ALMOST as good as this one if you just replaced the Shredders with Stormchaser Drakes.
True, but don't forget that Shredder also punishes your opponent for double spelling. Also, countering an opponent's spell during your turn plus a consider at end step is enough to set off Shredder
Mono blue haughty all counters was my first brew idea for standard as a returning player since I was expected to face a lot of liliana and sheoldred control decks. Still on the fence about playing standard again but glad to see I wasnt wrong about haughty. In modern you could do a similar deck with that UUU flyer from dominaria og set since you just run islands. Great deck man.
I love how he sounded surprised after drawing Ledger Shredder after PUTTING IT ON TOP OF HIS LIBRARY.
I'm running something similar, but my creature base is only 2 delvers and 4 djinn. You can knock a lot off the value by running this list:
Card draw is all through spells. 8 rares, much cheaper and it lets you play a set March of Swirling Mist which is such a versatile card both protecting your djinn and countering your opponent's gamewinning swing.
4x Consider
2x Delver of Secrets
4x Fading Hope
4x March of Swirling Mist
2x Shore Up
3x Syncopate
4x Impulse
2x Make Disappear
3x Negate
3x Ertai's Scorn
4x Haughty Djinn
4x Thirst for Discovery
1x Case the Joint
20x Island OR 19x Island 1x Otwara (You big spender, you!)
Card names: *exist*
Seth: I'm going to mispronounce you so hard for no reason whatsoever.
I play something similar. My wildcard situation dictated my deck choice a little.
Not a fan of the terror. Not usually worth the cost IMO.
I run 4x Shore up and 4x Slip out the back for protection. All this black warrants it IMO.
4x combat research for draw. And 4x consider.
4x make disappear for spells. 4x fade away and always happy to have one in hand.
Creature suite is 4x delver. 4x ledger shredder. 2x suspicious stowaway. 2x Haughty Djinn. 4x stormdrake.
20 lands. Still too many lands most times haha. Stowaway is awesome being unblockable.
Deck runs smooth. Just mostly dependent on the coin flip as with most things haha.
Terror is a lot better than ledger shredder for me, I do put in Delver though as a guilty pleasure but most people run less creatures, Idk about most of your creature choices tbh. I don't doubt you get decent wins it's just not that optimised, the highest win percentages come from literally just Djinn and a Terror or two.
Stowaway seems really good, ESPECIALLY over Terror
@@Spaced92 I just tried to bring the MV down to be honest. Most of the time, there aren’t enough spells in the bin to justify terror.
Delver is a great 1 drop. Otherworldly gaze is awesome to set it up. I could see putting that in if you want. But going down a card to set it up wasn’t worth it for me.
Stormdrake draws many cards and removal spells haha. Target it with combat research, draw a card, etc.
Djinn and Stowaway as 2x is because of wildcards. Both have been awesome. Especially if you get to flip stowaway.
Ledger shredder is great against aggro and red decks, has been underwhelming otherwise.
I have the number of creatures that I do to keep up the threat density. Always want 1 or 2 on the board.
Always seems like I want to have an extra fade away or 2. The games I do lose are usually 1 tempo play away from winning.
How would you go about optimizing it?
With that weird rakdos sac deck and this mono-blue delver list we got an against the odds and a budget magic episode in one.
Ground out my first season on Arena to Mythic with this deck. Nothing like watching an opponent punt after flipping a Delver on 2.
I've been playing a variant with faerie vandal. Super cool synergies with ledger Shredder and of course Not Curious Obsession
List?
Seems like a rlly good budget option
Best versions of this I have seen play less as aggro and more as control over the early turns. A lot don't have delver and main 4 of the terror because the ward saves on casting counters. Waits till 4 or 5 mana and starts hitting back
@mtggoldfish haughty (sounds like hotty) means "arrogantly superior and disdainful" so he's a djinn who's really full of himself basically
I've seen so many of these since this video came out. Thanks. -_-
Why was I not subcribed to this channel? I watch this every day: time to change that!
So basically 99% of the cost of the deck is just Ledger Shredder, right ?
Been running this archetype in draft with UR spells. The curiosity is good with battle mage (legendary UR 1/3 flyer) and twincast means you hit for minimum 6 draw 2 with so much versatility. I could be wrong but I think this deck and a mix of the Ivy archetype (maybe green maybe not) and the UR prowess deck might be a format all star.
I’ve also really liked Micromage to tutor up Shore Up/cantrips but it may be too slow for constructed but it seems like it could be insane when you have 5 mana and a flyer with two curiosity’s perhaps as a sideboard card as the 1 mana kicker spell that gives -1/-0 and forces blocked could be okay last resort for dealing with Sheoldred too.
Also- Tolarian terror (and the other cost reduction creatures) have been format defining in UMA draft. You could combine the force block cantrip with terror to trade a 2 mana Terror for a Sheoldred and perhaps others with tricks
ALSO also Fires of Victory has been BUSTED when you keep your hand full via curiosity and worst case scenario it’s actually that old 5 mana desk 4 draw a card.
That all said this deck may just be the meta answer to Sheoldred black with 4 essence scatter
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Tolarian terror is a house and you did it dirty in the early games. 1 mana 5/5 with ward 2 is so good. And even if it's at its worst you play so many instants that you will almost never pay the full price.
When I saw the title read "Annoying Deck" I thought Crim would be piloting. Guess the generational difference is he would call it "Trolling." ...Lol
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I actually run a terrible version of match 3’s sac deck in mardu. It’s like a weird mix of legends matter/sacrifice/aristocrats where you combine lagomos, braids, and Elas il-Kor to sacrifice the free token every turn to braids and drain for 1. Even more fun when you add in something like ratadrabik or Kiki-Jiki. Again, not good but very fun
Agreed with the mixed feelings towards that deck. It is really annoying to play against, then again so elegant with such a straight strategy and so few rares in it. The Djinn is really nuts though!
Hey Seth so for spook-tober can you play Halloween theme decks? If cryptic serpent is legal in standard can you put him in there if he isn't rotated out
mono U tempo is back! my favorite deck from Ixalan Standard
Djinn is a very good Magic the Gathering card. I made a UB control deck with it and it slaps.
In match 4 you could have protected the Ledger shredder from cut down by casting and flashing back gaze
This video got me to play standard for the first time since ixalan
I build similar deck few day before this video. This mono U tempo/Djinn/control is soo nice. Win even against top aggro.
It's really easy to make mistakes piloting MUT, and most of the wins come from people not understanding how to beat it. Some of the most satisfying games I've played are playing MUT against someone who knows how to beat it, and both of us navigating around all the counterplay.
That having been said, I completely understand why people feel it's a miserable experience to go up against.
What is MUT ?
@@Dorphin01 MUT=Mono Blue Tempo
The curious obsession decks actually made for a lot of fun games, I get why people hate it but besides the Spirits or the comparable Simic Flash deck, I find them to be interesting play patterns and like you say, a lot of people lose constantly because they counter the wrong things or lose patience and play out creatures when they shouldn't.
@@Dorphin01 Mono-Blue Tempo, there's a lot of slight variations but they all play similarly to this one
Curious obsession was bane of my existence on arena.
All I wanted was to see a Tolarian Terror come out to prove his worth. Not even once. :C
Right? Cut the best card in his deck every single game!
As much as I love it, it's a big dumb beater with no evasion or trample. Sure it can come out under costed, but very rarely will it come out significantly ahead of the curve due to the need to put a lot of spells in the yard first. With the number of wedding announcements in the format, terror just gets chump blocked into oblivion and never accomplishes anything.
Seth:"Tolarian Terror was pretty dissapointing"
Also Seth:"get outa here. I ain't given you no chance to prove yourself. I already imagine you being bad. A 3 mana 5/5 Ward 2? Bah. I'd rather play my 2 mana 2/4 flier, or my 1 mana 3/2 flier, or my 3 mana 7/4 flier. I need fliers, and what are you? That's right, you're just a big dumb snake. 3 mana for a 5/5 Ward 2, bah. This is 2022 magic. Get wings you dirtbag"
That match 2 you had a chance for game when you conceded. Salty forfeit
terror definitely shines in a more sorcery/instant heavy build without shreddy boi and research. ertai's scorn and thirst for knowledge are good replacements
Hey Seth!! Got a quick question for you cuz I'd like your opinion on something. How do you feel about running a few common fetches like Brokers Hideout in a deck like this to help with deck thinning and prevent flooding? I've been testing it in my budget decks at home and I've felt pretty good about the results so I was wondering what your thoughts on it would be :)
i bought the Japanese land secret lairs. how do i get the lands on here?
Love it when Seth casually pronounces Haughty djinn almost like "Horny djinn" *giggle*
No downside to running essence capture instead of scatter?
This deck looks sweet, but we need more cantrips for it. Something to be on the lookout for as this Standard proceeds.
Been running something close since the start of this standard. Absolute favorite
Same, feels like the Ixalan/Ravnica mono blue tempo which was so fun
I've never really thought Mono Blue Tempo was that annoying. I'd much rather play against it then some kind of sacrifice deck, for example.
Ive been seeing this deck everywhere and I'm honestly surprised to see you didn't make it yourself since almost every other budget or jank deck is a Saffron Special
It's funny honestly. I Hate playing vs the deck and would never play it myself.
But I don't mind seeing others, especially high level people play decks like this. It's probably because it can be neat seeing how they sequence spells and attacking.
32:15... Otherwordly Gaze would've let you potentially save it so yeah you could've done something to save it with a high gaurantee.
When they go island and pass a couple of turns, I know I am in for some suffering. I have a decent record against that tho. I play a set of uncountable burn or try to double spell at the end of their turns, so I can cast something on my own. :P
If I were you, I'd drop Ledger Shredder and put in Impulse or Thirst for Discovery. Help with those land blocks/floods
Im playing haughty djinn in pioneer and it feels so good to bounce with brazen borrower for one mama
My favorite deck. Love when you play control
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*Slip out the Back* is gonna win a Pro Tour. It just does too much in too many situations. Lastly, Voltron-style builds have a legit shot competitively now.
Love your work Seth, but this is the first time I've actually wanted you to lose
Getting bad flashbacks from Ixalan standard
I think that a certain faerie and a certain drake may do better with this deck, but thanks to Richard for the idea!
Wouldn't Essence Capture be better than Essence Scatter, since it's monoblue anyways?
Haughty Djinn can’t cost reduce the UU cost but it can reduce 1U
Haughty means arrogant, acting as if from high above, being high and mighty, hubristic
Didn't Crim already play this deck a few weeks ago??
I don't think you want delvers in this deck honestly. The most annoying version I've faced is 4 haughty djinn, 3 tolarian terror, and then way more counters.
Why essence scatter over essence capture?
I wonder if there's a u/w version of this with Emperor and the Kamigawa channel lands? Also potentially Teferi? Although at that point it's not budget and getting away from the main focus of the deck
I think UW virtuoso is kind of similar, just less counters and more pump/protection.
You're talking about a control deck at that point. This is designed to be an aggressive deck with high interaction, similar to merfolk. As it was already said if you want to go U/W, virtuoso is what you would be looking at. Using storm drake and virtuoso as you main threats while growing them and pumping them with targeting spells. A lot of newer versions of the deck go baby so you can also run ivy since you can double up your pump spells with her.
Honestly I think going slightly over paper/mtgo budget is fine for standard. It's annoying that Arena's economy isn't compatible with rest, but it's still worth considering arena, since it is part of the game
As annoying as the salty rope is, when I was playing arena I always took it as a compliment. Needs to be noted my playstyle would be considered kinda "Crimmy" by goldfish standards.
Edit to say: as it stands delver has always been "sketchy good" like the most frustrating good card ever. With the introduction of Balmor, delver made it back into my modern izzet delver, which wasn't running delver for a while cuz DRC.
"Mono-U Q-Bert" is that how we pronounce that?
Blue has an extra stage to play where nobody else can...counter spell. For this reason, playing with blue is always broken.
But Mana tithe!
I kid. Mana tithe is the exception that proves the rule.
I feel like Arena's shuffler is broken with respect to lands. This kind of screw happens to me in probably 60% of my games if I run fewer than 22-23 lands.
*plays against removal.dec* “I feel like this 5/5 for 1 with Ward 2 isn’t good here”
What did we learn this week on budget magic.... I do not have the 8 rare wildcards to make this. It is a sad day. :-(
Glad to see my deck represnt
can u revisit mono blue tempo for historic add a budget version for that :)
Any chance of revisiting budget combo elves for budget magic?
No joke never play Standard on Arena just brawl and i just thought that looks fun threw it together except for faerie Vandal instead of the ledger and i am killing it
Even the saltiest of decks is sweet when you play them Seth.
And I play Blood Moon more than anyway!
Do you know when we can expect Crimm's mono G stomoy vid? 😉
Maybe essence capture instead scattaer???
Before I watch all the games I just wanted to quickly shout out Tolarian Terror, I made a deck filled with counterspells, cantrips and otherworldly gaze and let me tell you a Terror on turn 3 it's pretty devastating to beat
And then Liliana comes down...
Haughty Djinn, more like Hotty Djinn
If we're doing standard I think lowest rares is the way to go!
Yeah, that helps for Arena for sure.
And there I was wondering why everybody suddenly was playing this crap... UA-cam's bad influence...
And a whole generation of children just googling "best deck mtg arena"..
A playset of Ledger Shredder doesn't seem very budget to me.
I would love to see a non budget version
'gh' makes a lot of different sounds in English, this is the first time I've heard it be pronounced as N
I always misread him as naughty.
Thought his name was naughty drinnen all the time.
Haw Tea Djinn
Toe Pea Air E Stomper
I don't know if he does it on purpose and at this point i'm too afraid to ask.
It is never wrong to rope delver
Haughty. Pronounced "Hawty". Rhymes with Naughty.
Definition: arrogantly superior and disdainful.
Yay, I was earlier extolling the power of Combat Research. Too late Saffron Olive, I did it on UA-cam first. See my videos and the timestamps, haha.
Haughty= haw(like saw) tee
This deck is less annoying to opponents then Seth's inability to say or define the word "haughty". That home schoolin' is really showing rofl
Fuck this deck. Beating it feels good (hehe), but it's always so tedious to play against
No offense Seth, but I enjoyed the games where you completely got blown out more than the times the deck functioned normally.
The original mono u tempo made me quit arena last time it was around, and this one is just as bad.