Have you tried this on other stones? (Other than sandstone / other stone materials) What other communities / people are doing deep laser etching that you can recommend? Thanks Awesome stuff!
@@ak_viking907 i havent. I do know that stones can be very particular on how they engrave. Some ive had work really well and some have what looked like air bubbles. Im not intelligent enough to do the research
@@kreakleuter thank you. im not sure about the first question, if your asking if the machine uses any sort of z axis movement to do this. The answer is no, this was done at a fixed focus. Im sorry im not aware of ezcad being able to do this, only lightburn
Hi there ,great video. What type of stone are you using .i am trying to replicate and using sandstone stones,I'm getting some peaks occurring.tbh it has happened with slate too. I have a Cloudray 50w JPT . Great video again
these are sandstone rocks too, i know exactly what you mean and get them on some stones but not on others. Im not entirely sure why it happens to be honest, i think it might be something to do with air pockets within the stone
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer I've tried using your settings,and tried lower frequency too ,trial and error as always.thanks for your quick response.keep up the great work.😎
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer I'm new to fiber, so I didn't have much of a feel for how long things take but it sounds like the Lightburn estimate is way off. I think there is a way to calibrate the Lightburn estimates, so I'll look into that. Thanks for the info!
I think we have the same machine or very similar ... thanks for the video. Are you sure you're configured correctly? I'd expect to see an available entry for q-pulse width, your MOPA should have it available ... Check the Device settings -> Ports and laser settings and enable q-pulse width setting. Nice work... love the concept... I'm in an area with lots of various types of rock... I can melt volcanic rock to produce glass that is black. There isn't any great detail available in any of the rocks I've used, so I use a long lens. An F254mm (175x175mm coverage) has a depth of focus (dof) of about 4.8mm. If you focus to the center of that area, it will remain in focus for almost 5mm. The F420mm has a dof of about 13mm. Of course the tradeoff is detail and a bit of power, but a much greater range. Not sure if I'm sold on the >256 pass option, but the jury is still out, at least with me.. I think if you're doing 3dslice you should use the 256 value for passes. This is a post by Oz on the Lightburn forum on it's operation. With 3D Slice, each pass is thresholded to the current threshold value, and the result is run as a 1-bit image. If you use 256 passes you get exactly one pass per gray-level in the image. Every pixel at or below brightness 255 for the first pass, every pixel at or below 254, then 253, and so on. If you choose 128 passes, you get every pixel at or below 254 for the first pass, then 252, then … It “clusters” the layers together into batches if you use fewer than 256 passes, and will duplicate some layers (with even spacing) if you use more than 256. 384 passes would duplicate every 2nd layer. 512 passes would duplicate every layer.
@@jackwilborn2353 this light burn is one not attached to my laser as was using it just to record in OBS, yes if LB is set up correctly you'll have pulse width too but as it used the default I just left it. It is very much trial and error and in the groups I've seen brass done with nearly 4000 layers. I would say it's a project for someone like Nicky Norton who will demonstrate the differences the amount of layers make. It's still very similar to how we used to do line intervals that coincide with the nema17 motor steps but even with a fiber laser we are still using the same DPI values. There are so many variables with the fiber galvo lasers that I tend to just go with what works for me. If someone posts improvements I will certainly try them out. My posts I'm uploading to give basics for others to try and experiment with as a lot of using these machines seems to be cloaked in secrecy and not sharing the settings used. I learnt all I know from the groups so these are to show my results and how I got em. I will give 256 a go though to see if there is any difference, also would make sense to try multiples of the 256 in order to get more defined edges. It's definitely something to ponder :)
@nostraodamus1980 Lol! Yes it would be. A new Antithekera mechanism lol, or absolute proof of ancient aliens. Inspirational, thanks for the video. Btw, nothing wrong with the voice it's better than AI.
Have you tried this on other stones? (Other than sandstone / other stone materials) What other communities / people are doing deep laser etching that you can recommend? Thanks Awesome stuff!
Brass is very popular, i did do a stainless steel dog tag too. A group called Den of Lasers on FB has a trove of posts of people doing deep engraving
Very impressive! I'm afraid to ask what you saw when you googled "image of cracks"! 🙂
hahaha yeah certainly not a fun search if safesearch is off lol
Thanks for showing the work flow.
@@wantafastz28 my pleasure
This is stunning. I‘ll for sure try that! Thank you.
My pleasure
I appreciate that the selected stone is removed to leave the image.
But what does the laser do to the stone? Is it melted? Vapourised? Sublimated?
the stone is reduced to dust and removed
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer Do you need to brush the dust away periodically?
@@paulwomack5866 some people use an air assist but with this one no nothing like that was used
Excellent thank you! May I ask what lens you used to do the engraving?
Thank you, 150mm lens
Have you tried this on any other stone types? like Granite or Jasper?
@@ak_viking907 i havent. I do know that stones can be very particular on how they engrave. Some ive had work really well and some have what looked like air bubbles. Im not intelligent enough to do the research
Nice work! I assume this is done with a 2.5D machine and not a standard 2D? Would EZCAD 3 do this as well as Lightburn?
@@kreakleuter thank you. im not sure about the first question, if your asking if the machine uses any sort of z axis movement to do this. The answer is no, this was done at a fixed focus. Im sorry im not aware of ezcad being able to do this, only lightburn
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer thnx, got it , all clear now🙏
@@kreakleuter glad i could help
Great tutorial!
My pleasure
My 20w does absolutely stufall, so hey start saving for the bigboys
I hardly miss my kidney to get this laser lol
Wow! I didn't even know this kind of thing was a thing!!!!
What type of laser do you use if you don't mind me asking?
Thank you, im using an OMG-X 60w mopa from OMGLaser.com
Hi there ,great video. What type of stone are you using .i am trying to replicate and using sandstone stones,I'm getting some peaks occurring.tbh it has happened with slate too. I have a Cloudray 50w JPT .
Great video again
these are sandstone rocks too, i know exactly what you mean and get them on some stones but not on others. Im not entirely sure why it happens to be honest, i think it might be something to do with air pockets within the stone
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer I've tried using your settings,and tried lower frequency too ,trial and error as always.thanks for your quick response.keep up the great work.😎
@@jumbostattoostudio no problem, ill do an update if i find out anything further but i think its just the nature or organic materials
Thanks for this, I'll have to get some stone and give it a try 🙂 Did you get the stone from a hardware store?
My pleasure, not all stones will work but fun to try different types. These are sandstones from a local art and craft store
Nice! I didn't know that option ! I tried to reproduce but I don't have 3D Sliced option, how did you get that ? I'm using a Falcon 2 pro. Thanks
Thanks, unfortunately 3DSliced is only enabled for galvo lasers
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer Do you mean the Galvo licence of Lightburn or the machine ?
@@HelloYohan sorry yes i was going to clarify that its only available on the galvo license that i can see
I'm curious how long this job took to run. I'm relatively new at this but I setup something similar and the estimate was over 5 hours.
This piece took 40 minutes
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer
I'm new to fiber, so I didn't have much of a feel for how long things take but it sounds like the Lightburn estimate is way off. I think there is a way to calibrate the Lightburn estimates, so I'll look into that.
Thanks for the info!
@@FreddyMakes it could be your speed is in mm/m instead of mm/s
So you sell files you create? If I wanted to engrave this exact piece?
I dont im afraid, im just a hobbiest
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer no worries, thank you for the inspiration and the process videos🤘🏼
What laser machine do you use?
@@maxumuskohany6580 OMG - X 60w mopa from omglaser.com
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer 🙏🏽
I think we have the same machine or very similar ... thanks for the video.
Are you sure you're configured correctly? I'd expect to see an available entry for q-pulse width, your MOPA should have it available ...
Check the Device settings -> Ports and laser settings and enable q-pulse width setting.
Nice work... love the concept... I'm in an area with lots of various types of rock... I can melt volcanic rock to produce glass that is black.
There isn't any great detail available in any of the rocks I've used, so I use a long lens. An F254mm (175x175mm coverage) has a depth of focus (dof) of about 4.8mm. If you focus to the center of that area, it will remain in focus for almost 5mm. The F420mm has a dof of about 13mm. Of course the tradeoff is detail and a bit of power, but a much greater range.
Not sure if I'm sold on the >256 pass option, but the jury is still out, at least with me..
I think if you're doing 3dslice you should use the 256 value for passes.
This is a post by Oz on the Lightburn forum on it's operation.
With 3D Slice, each pass is thresholded to the current threshold value, and the result is run as a 1-bit image. If you use 256 passes you get exactly one pass per gray-level in the image. Every pixel at or below brightness 255 for the first pass, every pixel at or below 254, then 253, and so on.
If you choose 128 passes, you get every pixel at or below 254 for the first pass, then 252, then …
It “clusters” the layers together into batches if you use fewer than 256 passes, and will duplicate some layers (with even spacing) if you use more than 256. 384 passes would duplicate every 2nd layer. 512 passes would duplicate every layer.
@@jackwilborn2353 this light burn is one not attached to my laser as was using it just to record in OBS, yes if LB is set up correctly you'll have pulse width too but as it used the default I just left it. It is very much trial and error and in the groups I've seen brass done with nearly 4000 layers. I would say it's a project for someone like Nicky Norton who will demonstrate the differences the amount of layers make. It's still very similar to how we used to do line intervals that coincide with the nema17 motor steps but even with a fiber laser we are still using the same DPI values. There are so many variables with the fiber galvo lasers that I tend to just go with what works for me. If someone posts improvements I will certainly try them out. My posts I'm uploading to give basics for others to try and experiment with as a lot of using these machines seems to be cloaked in secrecy and not sharing the settings used. I learnt all I know from the groups so these are to show my results and how I got em. I will give 256 a go though to see if there is any difference, also would make sense to try multiples of the 256 in order to get more defined edges. It's definitely something to ponder :)
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How you make files jpg to stl?
from stl's to depthmaps? website called DepthR
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer from jpg (photo) to make stl, you know program?
@@BLOODqeqedDepthR does it
@@Nonprofessional_Tinkerer thank you!! You make very nice video!!
@@BLOODqeqedmy pleasure
Nice. Lol, just needs a touch of some brass foil on the wheels and leaving on a beach... Lol! Next weeks Ancient Aliens episode...
hehe wouldnt that be something to find in 1000 years
@nostraodamus1980 Lol! Yes it would be. A new Antithekera mechanism lol, or absolute proof of ancient aliens. Inspirational, thanks for the video. Btw, nothing wrong with the voice it's better than AI.
@@mabonbran8913 thank you indeed, will be uploading a new one this weekend for mirrors so stay tuned if thought about trying them.
@nostrodamus1980 Excellent, I'll look forward to checking it out.
Can you do a detailed tutorial using ezcad 2