Downward Thrust What I love about your channel is that you tell it how it is, no holding back. You're not afraid to talk about things the way they are, you don't worry about pissing off a huge company. And also the way you made another video to apologise about F13 review, that just showed your maturity level and professionalism. You really care about what you do, which I appreciate. Not a single video on this channel has disappointed me. Keep doing the great work
I respect the hell out of DICE, but God, have I've grown to despise EA. From Madden to Battlefront to FIFA to Titanfall, they take great games and make them worse over time.
I truly miss the old days of DICE, playing BF3 with my friends on 360 was one of my favorite things to do. Now i look at Battlefield and all I see is a bunch of great developers stuck in a basement with EA keeping them locked in.
No, I loved Battlefield 2, and enjoyed Battlefield 2142 although it kinda felt like a polished BF2 mod. BF1942 and BF2 are my to favourite games in the series, because they had a better feeling of tactics than any of the new ones.
Kjgib Okay thank you and you're right about 2142 but at the time I never thought that and enjoyed the heck out of it. I'm thankful for DICE continuing to make Battlefield games but man I'd kill for a return on the old style of 1942, 2, and 2142. I almost feel bad for people who started with 3 and praise it. They missed out.
Joey Krainski | I'd love to see them bring back the style, but I suppose it wouldn't be very successful as people are more interested in extremely fast paced explosion filled action movie game play. It does seem like EA is more in it for the money than the games now, so I imagine they'll make the next one like the newer ones. I guess I'm stuck playing BF-1942, BF2, and BF2142 on single player and LAN until they make another one like them.
I never hear anybody talk about the fact that you could destroy enemy artillery equipment and UAV equipment to disable the commander from using them, am I the only one who missed how amazing it was to go on covert missions and destroy artillery and UAVs and bridges? Oh and that commander mode was fun as hell and helpful back in the day too!
@Santosh Kumar i think YOUR guy Levelcap copy that from where i copied from Frankie BUT! it's totally OK to telling some joke that you learn from someone else!
Yet people hated it when it launched . Servers were down at launch and intermittently down. Helicopter home spawn circle strafe rapes were an epidemic . But hey rose colored glasses and all . You keep on believing.
I found it entertaining in a...let's say pacific rim kind of way. An enjoyable little guilty pleasure if you turn your brain off all the way and just take in the explosions and setpieces. It certainly wasn't transformers 5 bad, to give an analogy, which actively insults your intelligence every chance it gets. so yeah, a fun and relaxing evening or two
Arosch_ As a Battlefield campaign, it wasn’t. As a campaign compared to campaigns in other series, then I guess it was. Better than BF4’s buggy mess though. THREE...TWO...ONE...SUPPRESSING!!
Cyka CheekiBreeki I play on ps3 and I get into full matches pretty often. It just really depends when you get on. I find the servers are not active between around 3-6 pm
People actually cared about Bf4 battlepacks? I really dont think they were a big deal. They only contained cosmetics, attachements that were just alternative versions of stuff you could easily unlock by the conventional progression systems and xp boosts that I always had too many of anyway. All of this was very easy to unlock without buying a single battlepack.
I got like 500 different xp boosts to spare because you get way too many battlepacks just by leveling to 140, while you level you unlock all the weapon attachments for weapons from weapon battlepacks (100 kills). The normal battlepacks were totally useless, for me atleast.
you know what i've started to notice, then again I doubt I'm the only one, but a lot of solid franchises are changing in worse ways. halo, cod, battlefield, you name
NonsensicalVids looks like soon Indie games are going to vastly overcome triple A since we got the rise of Kickstarter games like star citizen and kingdom come deliverance
I agree and disagree to a point. while halo 4 was a massive step down the company was taking a risk to try and make it better but didn't, since then they have been listening, halo 5 was a massive step up from halo 4 gameplay and multiplayer wise, its pitfall was the campaign, and the lack of content on release. again 343i was listening, and halo 5 for me has been my favourite halo multi to date. while it won't beat the nostalgia feel of playing in blood gulch, it is more fun to play. my biggest issue with it at the moment is the design has gotten too cartoony, but looking at the direction they took halo wars 2 artstyle wise I have high hopes that they will continue the trend back to been darker in tone and not just story. In my opinion you take the halo 4 artstyle and storytelling and combine it with h5 multi and you will have a good game, obviously both things have improvements that are needed but from what i have seen 343i is doing better. lets just hope that the marketing of h5 was actually ment for h6 and that h6 marketing is not as misleading (there is a theory that h5 marketing is actually a build up for 6 and that locke will properly hunt chief and chief will be properly awol). while I do love halo I do agree that 4 and 5 were not the best. no to the other two you mentioned, I think battlefields best direction of choice would be the same as cod, a return back to the formula, they should do a bf 5 and make it like b4 but with improvements. the next cod after bo4 should be basically a modern warfare 4, for me the modern warfare 2/3 (since three was basically just a reskin of two with slight improvements here and there) gameplay is my favourite, while i did enjoy bo and bo2 i have not cared for this overly colourful and futuristic feel, while it was sorta fun in aw, it has been quickly killed by having pretty much nothing else but the futuristic cods. and also they need have a cod series that keeps the old style of primary, secondary, grenade, perk 1 perk 2 perk 3, form that mw2 and mw3 had, not this point based system, while it was a nice refreshing system when it first came out, it has been killed with over saturation and being made overly complicated, then need to do the whole "less is more" thing and cut off a lot of the fat, for me this includes the 100s of weapon variants of the same gun, a gun should just be a gun, if they are going to do mtx, they should keep it cosmetic, as it isn't very good for game balance, where as with games like halo 5 that can easily have 2 split modes one with and one without, and have it set up that even if you do poor money into the game you don't gain a massive unfair advantage and the emphasis is still on skill, e.g. you can have and op gun in h5 and still get killed by the magnum pistol :P . that is my opinion. I have hope for halo since beneath the surface of 343i they are people who want halo to succeed because they care for the game, I can't say the same for cod tho, since activision has a vice grip on any of their devs. but DICE seems to be a mixed bag for me, i see their past games and have hope, but then i see bf1 which while it was fun for the first few games, it is just weird with the conflicting setting and gameplay, but if they take that gameplay back to a modern setting then we should see a good game. on a different note what i want to see from halo is more games that are not halo wars or halo mainstory, like reach or h3 odst. I personally think 343i should allow other dev companies that love halo to make their own brand and style of halo games that aren't exactly cannon, but provide potential inspiration and could prevent the current games from becoming stale and samey. I myself would love a good narrative driven halo game that isn't all about the multi, or a subnautica style game but in space, or like the first mission of halo 4 but have the game be about trying to survive and get off a broken ship, with no other planet close enough. anyway these are just my thoughts, feel free to disagree.
Ale Vic The most Greatest Comedy Game I've ever played on my opinion. The Voice acting was very Realistic just like in Every Comedy Sit-coms and Shows.
I KNOW! A lot of my friend aren't big on campaigns so they don't understand that the BFBC campaigns were masterpieces. I hope we get a BFBC3 and I also hope other games don't start copying to the point of over saturation.
I think you have a bit of a false expectation about BF1. Its wasnt supposed to be more or less realistic than the others. BF4 or 3 dont really depict realistic combat, so why should BF1 all of a sudden be a hardcore realistic simulator? (Which wouldnt be fun at all imo) Also the comment about being "rooted in history" also states that its mostly about the weapons and vehicles of that time and not so much about the gameplay. You can definitly argue about the cons in BF1, but missing realism isnt really one of them, because thats not what its trying to achive.
Because instead of at least keeping some of the more realistic and hardcore elements of the previous games, they went full Arcade and removed any semblance of challenge and fun.
For one, the class system is all but worthless anymore. There are more than enough ways to damage vehicles without a dedicated class, every class gets entry denial items, health regen and TTK is a joke. The weapons themselves are way too easy to use, there's no skill or weight and I shouldn't be firing a laser rifle in WWI. The maps are designed to funnel the maximum amount of action possible without leaving much in the room for strategy or flanking, and the squad system is so absolutely worthless that it's not really even a point to use anymore. The weapon selection itself is also incredibly dumb. Even World at War held itself to a higher historical standard with its setting, putting more of an emphasis on widely used weapons and single-fire rifles instead of one-off experiments to give people more automatic weapon choices than needed. If you want to see what an actual WWI game is capable of, go play Verdun or Tannenberg.
Alexander Storm I had the opposite observation with regards to the class system, BC-BF4 diluted the classes by adding all-kit weapon that pretty much made classes nothing more than gadget lists that fit into any play style. BF1 actually makes the classes feel specialized and fitting into a role, especially with the recent TTK update.
Battlefield is a great franchise. My favorite on Current gen consoles (Xbox one and PS4, I’m a console battlefield player) is Battlefield 4. My favorite on last gen is bad company 2
A few things. BF1 guns kill slower than any of the other main line games (even with the TTK2.0 patch) Movement speed? Slower than BF4 actually (BF4 has a longer windup time however) stats straight out of the files, source symthic BF1 Sprint speed = 3.4 * 1.775 = 6.035 m/s BF4 Sprint speed = 4.0 * 1.625 = 6.5 m/s * 1.1 Sprint boost = 7.15m/s Automatic guns in a WW1 game? the game would be frankly quitte un-Battlefield if it was just bolt action only. People are already crying about the amounts of content (funfact, it has exactly the same amount of shootable things as BF3 :p) Nadespam? guess you forgot about that it has been an issue for practically every Battlefield game? Remember BF2 with its 3 nades? (times 64) Cheese on the Battlefield. See elites as vehicles for the infantry scrubs, quitte easy to take down (+ BF4 had its own fair share of pickups like the M82 or USAS) However i do agree about the behemoths, those are just stupid But so does every Battlefield game have their own stupid things (BF4, selflocking missiles, flying C4 dildos, also known as the ucav, etc etc, or like you mentioned, BF3's suppression) Also, Battlelog (after its first year) was probably one of the best things ever, lots of great features, no need to sit trough 100 intro's and the whole social aspect of it was great (it did have some issues after Google chrome stopped supporting a certain thing, but that was quickly fixed) About the DLCs? 5 where paid, 4 where free in that list you showed.. Every class has their own distinct role? you either run around with AR's or carbines microbursting on all ranges you either run medkits, or something to easily take out vehicles (C4 or RPG's depending on the class) 10/10 class uniqueness, 0/10 would balance again
TBH, if you really wanted BF1 to be more historically accurate , the gameplay would be boring as hell. Just wait in the trench for 90% of the match, then spend the remainder being sniped and slaughter. WW1 was hell on Earth.
the thing is bf1 is already boring. the game play strange for a battlefield game , the game feels like a cod one-up to fit in with "were different" bt no one making modern era game . TLDR it dosnt feel right and definitely dosnt feel like battlefield
It is not like that. It could have been balanced out. There were videos about. ww1 wasnt only this. look at the game "Verden". Also it was such a huge opportunity to make bf fresh, make new gamemodes, change it a little. Tanks could have been rare and slow and gamemode could be based on that for example. Most of the soldiers should have had bolt action rifles and yes if done correctly it could have worked it would be balanced and it wouldnt be boring. Communication, spotting or rather the lack of it could have been base for game mechanic and stuff like that. But no they instead changed history to fit battlefield pattern. So most of weapons are prototypes that was never in war. Uniforms are done incorrectly, nations use others nations tanks and so on, just blatant lazyness + arcade elements.
Kam Farzam That has nothing to do with it lol, a bullet its still a bullet and would still kill you, its all based on game design and with the new patch it feels more like older battlefield games
I don't I've put in over 600 hours from December 25 2013 to summer 2014 when all the dlc maps came out The end game was amazing especially the dragons tooth dlc
Ghost Tech I thought behemoths was a good idea. Keeps games closer and moving. It stops players camping out near objectives too long where it becomes impossible to recapture anything. I love the matches with evenly matched teams where the score is near neck and neck. More tense imo as you don't to be the one responsible losing that point or death.
Battlefield 3 is still by FAR my alltime favorite Battlefield game. In my opinion it's still unmatched in the fluidity of gameplay, the realisation of the setting and sound design. Every weapon feels unique and strong in their own way and it has some of the most memorable maps of the franchise. That's all aside from the visuals that are still keeping up incredibly well. Just my opinion of course, but I still play it regularly, despite owning every single other BF game thats come out since BC2
Adam Sujkowski yea of course, i said it was just my opinion and in the end there is no real 'objective judgement' over what I enjoyed most. I can totally see why people prefer other games in the series, but BF3 is at the top for me, im still playing it
BF3's gunplay was the worst in the series due to the suppression effect. It literally rewarded people for sucking and missing their shots lol. Both 3 and 4 suffered from lock on weapon issues as well, making flying in the games not enjoyable as you just spent the whole time dodging missiles from some scrub half way across the map staring at the sky. BC2> all. BF1 could have been just as good, because it has really good gun balance but they have too much BS in the game unfortunately.
Al Capwned 100% agreed, any flaws were forgotten with the brilliant map design that allowed use of any class, it was fun, memorable and had that replay factor. Ask any person to name a map from the Battlefield series and I bet the top answer will be Grand Bazaar or Metro.
I disagree, the only good maps were the classic BF2 maps that were ported over. Vanilla BF3 maps had too many bottleneck points. The game was good, but not a good Battlefield game. BF2 and BF2142 are the best in balanced gameplay.
The best with and 3 OP weapons, and the unique medic class, suppresion, blue screen, and kills all the time behind walls. PLS i play bft since bc2, stop being nostalgic, btf1 its the best btf ever made
Eric Sapp ummm they still have the best weapons, from launch to the Fedorov to the latest update. Don't mention the Automatico or Hellriegel because they're given way too much credit than they deserve
Autoloading .35 was the best DPS gun in the game for a variety of close/middle ranges. M1907 was also versatile up close, and the German SLRs were straight-up auto snipers.
That’s what I’m saying, every kit’s weapons have pretty rigid optimal engagement ranges. Back it the days of BF3 and BF4, the assault class was able to do it all.
BF2, eh? In all fairness, they had good weapons, but in no way better than assault or spec ops. Other classes had more specialized weapons, but that doesn't automatically mean "worse", does it? Except anti-tank. Their SMGs WERE abysmal.
Hirmikss except Planetside has crappy mechanics all around, and a development team that's running the game into the ground, alienating all but the most hardcore players.
Alexander Storm I wouldn't really compare the mechanics of PS2 to BF considering that PS2 at least does something different. All of BF's mechanics are just taken from other games.
But they're not fun. The gun-play is extremely floaty and has absolutely no impact, and since that is the cornerstone of the game, it failed to really do anything good. The vehicles are just okay, but there is nothing special about them to really write home about. It's a barely competent game that gained popularity because of scale and setting. Also, I never made any comparisons, I judged it by its own standards.
I started out utterly horrible at bf1, now after more than 600 hours of gameplay, I finish at the top of the leader board, k/d 3 and above. There are many ways to be horrible at a chaotic game like bf1, which is the epitome of a battle field, but you can always develop and be better over time, that’s what I think. I still adore the game, so atmospheric and chaotic, and every time I play I feel like I’m in a movie.
I actually started with BF1 then made my way backwards. I love all the games I've played so far, BF1 is still my favorite. I can completely understand why people don't like BF1 with things like the hellriegel and the sweet spot mechanic. Still a great video and very well constructed!
I tried to play BC2 after not having touched it for years, and honestly, without the nostalgia goggles on it just felt weaker mechanically and content-wise to both 3 and 4.
I don't know why when i was playing bf 4 i don't get a lot of kills compared to other players unlike bf 1 i always get highest kills or the second 5x kills min per match is it the physics of the games or what i don't get it
His biggest Complaints for bf1 were problems that for the most have already been fixed, saying that bf1's gameplay is too fast pace is, and yet praise bf4's is dumb
because it uses battlefront and hardline hybrid mechanics, i noticed it instantly in first round of BF1 on the beta when they had a open beta on PC, instantly hated it, as well as Battlefront and latest version of frostbite go hand to hand, they built that engine with in mind of Battlefront 1, so this is why you feel like your playing a childs game, and not a more hardcore or harder experience then lets say BF3 .
joe own that make non sense, the engine its frostbite 3 is the same as btf4, they never build an engine especially for battlefront they just polished it, wtf are you talking about btf3 never has been a hardcore game hahaha
13:09 this is incorrect. The only paid-for dlc the game has is the original 5 expansion packs. If you were to include premium members and people who only play the base game, then it’s 7 different subgroups, not 9.
you can still wait a couple of weeks after launch to judge the game, that's how I usually decide to buy a game or not, after the community's initial feedback, that saved me 60$ with Battlefront 2
Joan Garcia yeah thats what i did with bf1 too. Despite the hate i really like it and i think it were well-spent 50.- If you stopped playing it because you liked the gameplay from games such as bf3 more (i did too for some time) you should definately revisit it. The ttk patch changed a lot and imo it feels way better now.
I remember Bad Company 2 gave Battlefield veterans M1 Garands for use in multiplayer. I remember using the gun almost exclusively. Oh the memories... I would love another Bad Company, with same comedic approach the the single player. While bringing back the damn good map design of the series. With the destruction as well. I agree with you on BF4 being the best (after the updates). I have quite a few hours on that game. Originally bought it for Xbox One, the switched to the PC. I still play BF4 to this day.
AvengedKyle I did play bf4 the whole year it was broken, just cuz i love the game and the progression and end game was FREE! Other hand bf1 dont offer anything its just a easy cashgrab game you play some hours a day
Atsuke93 I agree, BF1 wore off it's welcome very quickly. Why offer bolt action rifles when everyone is using automatics? Also, the game had maybe 5 guns per class. If you don't count the guns "Optic, factory, or trench" variation.
Im with you on the garand. It was just about the only thing i used. But Bf1 is my favorite for now. Not having any of this lock on, laser guided bullshit is so nice. Im kinda hoping next game will go WW2, have bad companys destruction and bf3s gameplay
I have never played BF3 but Bad Company 2 was awesome. Well and then I started to play BF4 which I thought would be a good bridge to the release of BF1. Well today I still have BF4 installed on my pc but haven‘t deleted BF1 since half a year. My most favorite shooter is Rainbow Six Siege because I like the brutal difficulty, but if you compare action shooters, BF4 is the best. Still looks amazing today, gameplay is so fine and it is the perfect mix of action and strategic gameplay. Pinnacle of shooters.
You're completely missing what the "rooted in history" quote for Battlefield one meant. The game is "rooted in history", everything in the game is historically authentic - which means it existed in or around the time period of the game, basically everything feels like it fits the setting. That doesn't mean at an overall level when you take into account an entire match as a whole, but individually in separation they all fit in; every weapon, vehicle, location, uniform etc matches a world war 1 setting. It may not be a true portrayal of the thing and it might not be realistic, but it is still authentic to the setting. The game achieves what it tried to do, which was create a Battlefield game with a World War one theme. It wasn't trying to be a realistic WW1 game, the series and how it plays wouldn't allow that without removing the core of what makes it a Battlefield game. The game isn't realistic or entirely accurate to the historical version, but it is still "rooted in history", as like that developer says in the quote, it's all real equipment, weapons, vehicles etc from the time period.
TheVoidDragon agreed, if it were a true authentic and real WW1 shooter everybody would be stuck in trenches far away popping shots at each other every so often, doesn’t sound like a good game. They did the setting really well when it came to this, and did it the best they could
Ok then I could make a ww2 game with the soviet army landing in belgium in another dday, make fighting in versailles and call it «rooted in history» because all the guns and uniform shown existed ?
Romain good alternate history series usually have to be 'rooted in history' to be effective, taking into account why things happened the way they did and how a different thing happening would have mattered unless you're just doing full on sci-fi, then it really wouldn't make sense to say its rooted in history
No, that would be doing something which has absolutely no historical basis, BF1 is based on history in the sense that it all feels like it belongs and has a historical reason to be in the game, there isn't anything they included that doesn't fit the time period/setting. The weapons, uniforms vehicles etc in your example would still be historically authentic to WW2, sure, but you're still doing something alternate-history as the core of the setting rather than what are simply caveats for gameplay reasons, which is not the same situation here at all. Battlefield one gets the background history side of things close enough to be believable, it's the realism it doesn't do, but that's on purpose to make it a Battlefield game. Basically, your example misunderstands what the "rooted in history" means as well, as the scenario you chose wouldn't be authentic to the other elements included (soviets) in the slightest - it isn't believable at all.
Battlefield 1 has issues yes, but the ones you talked about like the ttk have been resolved or are unrealistic like your expectation for a real ww1 experience
The Grand Admiral Verdun is pretty fun, not nearly as fun as BF1 IMO, but trench warfare can be fun. It’s just that it’s not aimed for everyone, very slow-paced gameplay.
Well i don't think people expected trench warfare. But if you go back in time where guns where hardly automatic, and it they where the recoil was uncontrollable you expect slower gameplay. But the gameplay speed went only faster and faster, thats not really wat alot of people wanted to happen. What i would have done was making the recoil of all guns twice as much, but thats just my opinion.
Yes, I honestly think they tackled it very very well, all 4 battlefield games i've playes have been VERY arcady if you compare them to real warfare?? And he isn't even right about the "pase" thing as all weapons up until now have pretty much taken an extra bullet to kill an enemy compared to previous games.
Its a manner of speaking, in the same tone truth cannot be hard or soft as it is an absolute concept. p.s. besides this is an opinion video, he does not have to say, i believe, or i think every time he makes a statement.
You make good points sometimes but a lot of the time it seems you’ve a lot to say about nothing. I think what would benefit your essays/critique more was if you didn’t frame them in clickbait garbage tier titles and thumbnails just to get clicks. Your content is better than an inflammatory top ten list, you shouldn’t present it as such. Unsubbed for now. Best of luck.
Jam Thief Unsubbed since his Warframe video a week or two ago. It was so poorly representative of how the game actually is and was a very unprofessional way to review the game, by only putting like 80 hours into a game that requires at least 200 to fully understand what Warframe actually is.
I always play the campaign before multiplayer, this way I get a feel for the guns, look, and mechanics of the game. For instance, I absolutely loved how Battlefield 1’s campaign was formulated, with different war stories that all showed different parts of the game. I disliked the multiplayer because I felt it was dominated by grenade spam, snipers, and the specialists or whatever the are, like the guy with the flamenwurfer. I suppose that is to be expected with a lack of tall buildings and a capitalization on huge, flat areas with the occasional trench or bunker.
I honestly don't care that BF1 wasn't that historically accurate. It is fun to me and everything in the game did exist in that time period. I think if the game focused more on slow, trenches, and only bolt action rifles. The game would be a total flop.
WTF was that sales chart at 6:05 ? That is so inaccurate. In EA's recent investor's call, they confirmed BF1 has sold 25 million copies, and it is the highest selling BF game ever.
There were only 5 dlc packs released that were paid. Community Ops, Night Ops, and Legacy Ops were all free updates. Sure you have to download them, which does take a while. But the only ones that were paid addons were China Rising, Second Assault, Naval Strike, Dragon's Teeth and Final Stand.
Let's hope DICE doesn't fall with EA's tactics, Battlefield is a love Franchise and I look forward to see what it offers for the years to come! As usual nice video Downward Thrust :3
Why are 75% of your clips showing you missing shots or just plain dying? I'm not trying to hate, most of your points were good and all, but you can't expect everyone to listen to a guy who's supposedly BEST clips of each game are that terrible. Sure, you could have been low on time, but come on, any decent player could have gotten better moments than those..
ParagoN because the average players experience is about 60-70% dying. It's way easier to watch a video of relatable gameplay results than to watch 10 minutes of some greasy teen grinding for 40 hours for that one golden game which we all know happens once in your life.
Dude, step off your high horse. Do you honestly think anyone clicked on this video looking for gameplay? So don't go out there insulting people like an ass. And if this gameplay is 'relatable' to yours, then I'm truly sorry for you. Look, I'm not saying his gameplay makes his points invalid, I actually agree with most of what he said, but if you're trying to show something so that people listen, at least show them you know how to do the thing you're talking about.
That's probably his most recent clips - I record my gameplay 3/4 of the time even though my latency is around 200 - 400 most days and I just use my most recent clips because looking through my footage of the couple of hours of gameplay takes to long to just find good gameplay let alone clip it out and put it to a couple other good scenes
Battlefield was at it´s best with BF3 and BF4(after the fixes)! Those 2 are what the series is all about: Great maps, vehicle combat, destruction, huge weapon progression, good mix of recoil and arcade style guns aswell as the best FPS to play with friends!
Historical warfare? Lol, everyone is equipped with automatics and semi autos. Also no mention of Project Reality? That makes me sad. From what I have seen, PR still has several hundred players and the community is surprisingly helpful for such a hardcore game (as long as you are on a EU, US or OZ server)
You mean man portable, mass produced and equipped automatic guns in WW1? They weren't used widely even in WW2. Squads were outfitted with bolt action rifles for the overwhelming majority. The russians were the first to field SMG squads for urban warfare. The automatic SMGs in Sniperfield 1 were for the most part prototypes. Afaik, LMGs were not even a concept in that era. Most machine guns were actually really heavy and water or oil cooled.
Serathis yeah but you're forgetting that the battles in battlefield 1 takes place near the end of the war and only has 64 people in it, compared to WW1's real numbers per battle. And I'm pretty sure most armies in WW1 used an SMG at one point with Germany's storm trooper being pretty well known
It seems that the "rooted in history" is a marketing line to attract those who like the WWI setting. I wonder what DICE had in mind when they said "rooted in history". Did a historical paintjob? Did they mean historical application of tactics?
he made many videos about this, just look at his channel ヽ(ヅ)ノ but tbh, i think he only dislikes the game bcs of its fast paced gameplay. i can understand him 100%, but just keep that in mind, not everyone thinks the way he does ^^
The biggest problem I have with Battlefield 1 is the fact that only 4 airplanes are allowed per map. They should've made a seperate game mode specifically for air combat.
*TL;DR* - Your analysis of the franchise was fun to watch until the final segment on BF1 which I believe you unfairly nitpicked. I personally feel that your content is not of good quality ever since you increased the rate of videos. Sorry but your gameplay issues make no sense to me as a battlefield veteran: - Sniper rifles are supposed to be accurate and have always been in the franchise - Grenade spam was far worse in BC2 and 4 - BF3/4/ all had faster times to kill than 1 until the most recent update which brings it to par with those titles - Picking equipment off the ground isn't a negative as it provides value to the capture points you are fighting over - Questioning authenticity is an understandable criticism but you can still play "back to basics" servers with SLRs only if it ruins the game for you otherwise -The sandbox element is what makes battlefield great so why is running ontop of a behemoth to blow it up or defend it a bad thing? - There are many trench maps currently available along side traditional battlefield open and closed maps -The behemoth system itself can work half the time and gives losing teams a morale boost and more competent teams a challenge to coordinate against, I do agree that the dreadnought is just awful to fight against however.
he lost me at bf1 is the fastest battlefield to date. nade spam was the worst at bf2, remember strike at karkand? authenticity was not a staple of battlefield since bc2. in bc2, bf3, bf4 there was a lot of guns that are not the issue rifle of any country in the world.
I can't agree more. He definetly changed from his old videos. The only people who say battlefield is a terrible franchise are people that never played a battlefield game or just cod fanboys. The only bad thing that is bad about battlefield is it publisher EA.
i am also a BF vet, since 1942 BF, i started playing, and lot of BC and BF2 ect, worst BF game is hardline and BF1, sorry to say, just because you are a vet, doesn't exactly mean you are correct, i do respect your opinion, but fanboysim to the side, bf1 is crap, its more arcade its more casual, the skill cap is low, the gameplay is for peasants that think they good at the game but really suck at playing fps games that require skill, it has less content then BF3 BF4 even hardline and thats saying something, lack of guns, the lack of vehicles, its a shadow of its former self, it has more a Battlefront mix with hardline feel to it. sorry to shut you down man, but don't defend the game just because you are a fan of the game, critic it and expect more from the BF franchise for it to improve.
nebraska avenger thats what you think but i view cod player as peasant as well any casual game for the masses are gernally peasant i view bf1 the same. Idc who is elite fam honestly don't care lol, casual peeps by definition are simple aka in old tongue peasant.
One of the most overlooked aspects of Battlefield 1 is its fantastic atmosphere. Although the things you can do are limited, the graphics and sound design make uo for it. Sometimes it's just fun to play a game that's aesthetically pleasing.
The peek for the series for me is bf3 I spent so many hours with my friends on that so many great maps I like bf4 but man alot of its maps just feel meh and levolution was decent. Bf1's one dumb attachments as a new guns is so dumb the damage control "but its ww 1 they didnt have alot of guns" They should've done ww2 then. I really like the rag dall effect in bf1 and i feel bf1 to have better maps than 4 but thats it. I fear for the next bf game
They did it so there weren't overpowered weapon attachment combinations and because nobody in bf4 and bf3 took the time to actually do the math and see which attachments do the best
I lost interest in battlefield once it stopped being a competative shooter. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare ruined everything when it comes to competative shooters, unlocking gear and equipment changed the focus away from gameplay and towards grinding. A competative game should give everyone the same equipment and gear from the get go, the appeal should be purely gameplay wise. I really do miss Battlefield 1942 and BF2. Not to mention all of their mods! Oh, and the fact that the older games had LAN support. It's one of the main reasons I'm never going to buy another EA shooter ever again, the lack of lan support negates every reason for buying it.
4 is hands down my favorite, but I picked it up like a year and a half ago so everything was fixed by then. I got everything for $20-$30 too, so that makes it a pretty good deal in my book!
Comment below with the game you want to feature on the next *Great & Terrible Franchise*
Downward Thrust Max Payne series?
Downward Thrust -> next Game Series: Brothers in Arms
Downward Thrust What I love about your channel is that you tell it how it is, no holding back. You're not afraid to talk about things the way they are, you don't worry about pissing off a huge company. And also the way you made another video to apologise about F13 review, that just showed your maturity level and professionalism. You really care about what you do, which I appreciate. Not a single video on this channel has disappointed me. Keep doing the great work
How about Uncharted! Great characters and cut scenes but terrible gameplay.
Do Halo Already
DICE: Great developer.
EA: Terrible publisher.
Dice used to be good...lot of devs left, now they make games that are designed in a completely retarded way.
Bartuhs its kindda sad to hear that they delivered such content now are just gone this and EA might lead to the fall of this community
Isn't Battlefield the only game Dice makes? Battlefront is the same game with different theme.
Sotiris Vasilopoulos They developed the original mirrors edge, and created the Frostbite engine if I'm not mistaken
Righteous, I like Mirror's Edge
I respect the hell out of DICE, but God, have I've grown to despise EA. From Madden to Battlefront to FIFA to Titanfall, they take great games and make them worse over time.
GoldenClassyGent no, ea just fucked with titanfall with the release date
Titanfall2 still amazing
I truly miss the old days of DICE, playing BF3 with my friends on 360 was one of my favorite things to do. Now i look at Battlefield and all I see is a bunch of great developers stuck in a basement with EA keeping them locked in.
James Burgess nah bro, DICE is good, EA is not
RZheng 02 that’s what he’s saying
I can't be the only one who misses the style of Bf2 and 2142 can I?
No, I loved Battlefield 2, and enjoyed Battlefield 2142 although it kinda felt like a polished BF2 mod. BF1942 and BF2 are my to favourite games in the series, because they had a better feeling of tactics than any of the new ones.
Kjgib Okay thank you and you're right about 2142 but at the time I never thought that and enjoyed the heck out of it. I'm thankful for DICE continuing to make Battlefield games but man I'd kill for a return on the old style of 1942, 2, and 2142. I almost feel bad for people who started with 3 and praise it. They missed out.
Joey Krainski | I'd love to see them bring back the style, but I suppose it wouldn't be very successful as people are more interested in extremely fast paced explosion filled action movie game play. It does seem like EA is more in it for the money than the games now, so I imagine they'll make the next one like the newer ones. I guess I'm stuck playing BF-1942, BF2, and BF2142 on single player and LAN until they make another one like them.
why on LAN? there are community made fixes to multiplayer
Sirius_AD EA had those communities shut down.
I never hear anybody talk about the fact that you could destroy enemy artillery equipment and UAV equipment to disable the commander from using them, am I the only one who missed how amazing it was to go on covert missions and destroy artillery and UAVs and bridges? Oh and that commander mode was fun as hell and helpful back in the day too!
Battlefield Carl Gustav
Battlefield Blue flare
Battlefield net code
Battlefield bayonet charge
You forgot battlefield USAS 12 Frag xD. Aka the God gun
dauxanh 64 Nice 2 year old Frankie Joke.
You copied that joke from levelcap -_-
@Santosh Kumar
i think YOUR guy Levelcap copy that from where i copied from Frankie
BUT! it's totally OK to telling some joke that you learn from someone else!
dauxanh 64 ok,I'm sorry
Battlefield 3 was a multiplayer masterpiece
Eobard Thawed well damn said!
Bad Company 2
Yet people hated it when it launched .
Servers were down at launch and intermittently down.
Helicopter home spawn circle strafe rapes were an epidemic .
But hey rose colored glasses and all . You keep on believing.
TheAgentAssassin Yeah, but once they fixed all of those issues, it was a work of art.
AgentAssassin, .9 K/D. gitgud.
15:59 I laughed when I saw the chat at the top left.
Oval Circle lol
Bf3's campaign wasn't even that bad
I found it entertaining in a...let's say pacific rim kind of way. An enjoyable little guilty pleasure if you turn your brain off all the way and just take in the explosions and setpieces. It certainly wasn't transformers 5 bad, to give an analogy, which actively insults your intelligence every chance it gets. so yeah, a fun and relaxing evening or two
Arosch_
As a Battlefield campaign, it wasn’t. As a campaign compared to campaigns in other series, then I guess it was. Better than BF4’s buggy mess though.
THREE...TWO...ONE...SUPPRESSING!!
paaatreeeck great analogy lol. Wasnt gonna win any oscars, but definitely wasnt the emoji movie of video game campaigns
Nesu Noart
Laughable? I’m guessing you haven’t played it because it really wasn’t bad.
Nesu Noart COD campaigns aren’t laughable.
I miss battlefield 3 so much...
Leonardo Matheus Azevedo if you have the game you can always play it again lol its not gone
Leonardo Matheus Azevedo there's actually still quite a few players still.
Leonardo Matheus Azevedo why?...the servers are still pretty active...its not like it doesn't exist any more...
On pc there are full servers but on ps3 i have only once into a full match.
Cyka CheekiBreeki I play on ps3 and I get into full matches pretty often. It just really depends when you get on. I find the servers are not active between around 3-6 pm
People actually cared about Bf4 battlepacks?
I really dont think they were a big deal.
They only contained cosmetics, attachements that were just alternative versions of stuff you could easily unlock by the conventional progression systems and xp boosts that I always had too many of anyway.
All of this was very easy to unlock without buying a single battlepack.
Kermit The Taco not really the snipers took ages to unlock you needed to be lucky to get a 6x zoom.
I got like 500 different xp boosts to spare because you get way too many battlepacks just by leveling to 140, while you level you unlock all the weapon attachments for weapons from weapon battlepacks (100 kills). The normal battlepacks were totally useless, for me atleast.
Blake Lindgren we get a 4x and a 8x super fast the 6x isnt a big deal
For the price and what you could get in them it wasn't worth it.
EXACTLY
sorry but at 8:18
"suicide c4 jeeps"
in the business we call those "jihad jeeps"
Jeep stuff!
Thats so raisas man😂😂😂
you know what i've started to notice, then again I doubt I'm the only one, but a lot of solid franchises are changing in worse ways. halo, cod, battlefield, you name
NonsensicalVids looks like soon Indie games are going to vastly overcome triple A since we got the rise of Kickstarter games like star citizen and kingdom come deliverance
Edward B-H Thats true, but i really dont want battlefield to continue its downwards trend after hardline came out :(
I agree and disagree to a point. while halo 4 was a massive step down the company was taking a risk to try and make it better but didn't, since then they have been listening, halo 5 was a massive step up from halo 4 gameplay and multiplayer wise, its pitfall was the campaign, and the lack of content on release. again 343i was listening, and halo 5 for me has been my favourite halo multi to date. while it won't beat the nostalgia feel of playing in blood gulch, it is more fun to play. my biggest issue with it at the moment is the design has gotten too cartoony, but looking at the direction they took halo wars 2 artstyle wise I have high hopes that they will continue the trend back to been darker in tone and not just story. In my opinion you take the halo 4 artstyle and storytelling and combine it with h5 multi and you will have a good game, obviously both things have improvements that are needed but from what i have seen 343i is doing better. lets just hope that the marketing of h5 was actually ment for h6 and that h6 marketing is not as misleading (there is a theory that h5 marketing is actually a build up for 6 and that locke will properly hunt chief and chief will be properly awol). while I do love halo I do agree that 4 and 5 were not the best. no to the other two you mentioned, I think battlefields best direction of choice would be the same as cod, a return back to the formula, they should do a bf 5 and make it like b4 but with improvements. the next cod after bo4 should be basically a modern warfare 4, for me the modern warfare 2/3 (since three was basically just a reskin of two with slight improvements here and there) gameplay is my favourite, while i did enjoy bo and bo2 i have not cared for this overly colourful and futuristic feel, while it was sorta fun in aw, it has been quickly killed by having pretty much nothing else but the futuristic cods. and also they need have a cod series that keeps the old style of primary, secondary, grenade, perk 1 perk 2 perk 3, form that mw2 and mw3 had, not this point based system, while it was a nice refreshing system when it first came out, it has been killed with over saturation and being made overly complicated, then need to do the whole "less is more" thing and cut off a lot of the fat, for me this includes the 100s of weapon variants of the same gun, a gun should just be a gun, if they are going to do mtx, they should keep it cosmetic, as it isn't very good for game balance, where as with games like halo 5 that can easily have 2 split modes one with and one without, and have it set up that even if you do poor money into the game you don't gain a massive unfair advantage and the emphasis is still on skill, e.g. you can have and op gun in h5 and still get killed by the magnum pistol :P . that is my opinion. I have hope for halo since beneath the surface of 343i they are people who want halo to succeed because they care for the game, I can't say the same for cod tho, since activision has a vice grip on any of their devs. but DICE seems to be a mixed bag for me, i see their past games and have hope, but then i see bf1 which while it was fun for the first few games, it is just weird with the conflicting setting and gameplay, but if they take that gameplay back to a modern setting then we should see a good game. on a different note what i want to see from halo is more games that are not halo wars or halo mainstory, like reach or h3 odst. I personally think 343i should allow other dev companies that love halo to make their own brand and style of halo games that aren't exactly cannon, but provide potential inspiration and could prevent the current games from becoming stale and samey. I myself would love a good narrative driven halo game that isn't all about the multi, or a subnautica style game but in space, or like the first mission of halo 4 but have the game be about trying to survive and get off a broken ship, with no other planet close enough. anyway these are just my thoughts, feel free to disagree.
battlefield was a great franchise, you're seriously taking BF1 as is. it boring and repetitive
same with movies and mainstream music, its not only video games
I think that the Bad company's campaigns were the funniest ever seen on a fps, i really loved these 2 games for their single player campaign.
Ale Vic The most Greatest Comedy Game I've ever played on my opinion. The Voice acting was very Realistic just like in Every Comedy Sit-coms and Shows.
THERE’S GOLD IN THEM THAR HILLS
SARGE! Haggard's Running Again!
Borderlands I personally think has that down better than Battlefield
I KNOW! A lot of my friend aren't big on campaigns so they don't understand that the BFBC campaigns were masterpieces. I hope we get a BFBC3 and I also hope other games don't start copying to the point of over saturation.
I think you have a bit of a false expectation about BF1. Its wasnt supposed to be more or less realistic than the others. BF4 or 3 dont really depict realistic combat, so why should BF1 all of a sudden be a hardcore realistic simulator? (Which wouldnt be fun at all imo) Also the comment about being "rooted in history" also states that its mostly about the weapons and vehicles of that time and not so much about the gameplay. You can definitly argue about the cons in BF1, but missing realism isnt really one of them, because thats not what its trying to achive.
Josh R muh authentic ww1 experience
Because instead of at least keeping some of the more realistic and hardcore elements of the previous games, they went full Arcade and removed any semblance of challenge and fun.
Alexander Storm like what
For one, the class system is all but worthless anymore. There are more than enough ways to damage vehicles without a dedicated class, every class gets entry denial items, health regen and TTK is a joke. The weapons themselves are way too easy to use, there's no skill or weight and I shouldn't be firing a laser rifle in WWI. The maps are designed to funnel the maximum amount of action possible without leaving much in the room for strategy or flanking, and the squad system is so absolutely worthless that it's not really even a point to use anymore. The weapon selection itself is also incredibly dumb. Even World at War held itself to a higher historical standard with its setting, putting more of an emphasis on widely used weapons and single-fire rifles instead of one-off experiments to give people more automatic weapon choices than needed. If you want to see what an actual WWI game is capable of, go play Verdun or Tannenberg.
Alexander Storm I had the opposite observation with regards to the class system, BC-BF4 diluted the classes by adding all-kit weapon that pretty much made classes nothing more than gadget lists that fit into any play style. BF1 actually makes the classes feel specialized and fitting into a role, especially with the recent TTK update.
6:00. BF3 was a lot, but not colourful unless you only consider blue to be a colour. :P
Blue is a color lol. Blue can also be colorful. You can have different shades of blue, which sets a unique setting.
I like how the colour on the graph for bf3 was blue
Lejend Dairy are u serious right now?? Loool
one of the reasons why i didn't like bf3
BF lost the teamplay element, so for me Squad took it's place.
What about battledield 2142? The titan mode was one of the most entertaining experience imo... I miss those days :(
sido ko they need to make 2143
Hell yea!
Our titan is taking damage!
sido ko I must agree with you there, with COD taking a step down from future warfare, a battlefield 2143 would be amazing
Agree!
BF2142 done a good job on future warfare.
Battlefield is a great franchise. My favorite on Current gen consoles (Xbox one and PS4, I’m a console battlefield player) is Battlefield 4. My favorite on last gen is bad company 2
Zoom bc2 is for me the best in the franchise
Goorpijp Wessel it is though. I guess I can’t be a console player that plays battlefield?
Goorpijp Wessel so your blaming console for EAs shitty consumer practices? Lmfao.
Zoom pc definitely goes to bf2, no debate needed if you knew about it
A few things.
BF1 guns kill slower than any of the other main line games (even with the TTK2.0 patch)
Movement speed? Slower than BF4 actually (BF4 has a longer windup time however) stats straight out of the files, source symthic
BF1 Sprint speed = 3.4 * 1.775 = 6.035 m/s
BF4 Sprint speed = 4.0 * 1.625 = 6.5 m/s * 1.1 Sprint boost = 7.15m/s
Automatic guns in a WW1 game? the game would be frankly quitte un-Battlefield if it was just bolt action only.
People are already crying about the amounts of content (funfact, it has exactly the same amount of shootable things as BF3 :p)
Nadespam? guess you forgot about that it has been an issue for practically every Battlefield game? Remember BF2 with its 3 nades? (times 64)
Cheese on the Battlefield.
See elites as vehicles for the infantry scrubs, quitte easy to take down (+ BF4 had its own fair share of pickups like the M82 or USAS)
However i do agree about the behemoths, those are just stupid
But so does every Battlefield game have their own stupid things
(BF4, selflocking missiles, flying C4 dildos, also known as the ucav, etc etc, or like you mentioned, BF3's suppression)
Also, Battlelog (after its first year) was probably one of the best things ever, lots of great features, no need to sit trough 100 intro's and the whole social aspect of it was great (it did have some issues after Google chrome stopped supporting a certain thing, but that was quickly fixed)
About the DLCs? 5 where paid, 4 where free in that list you showed..
Every class has their own distinct role? you either run around with AR's or carbines microbursting on all ranges
you either run medkits, or something to easily take out vehicles (C4 or RPG's depending on the class)
10/10 class uniqueness, 0/10 would balance again
Well said. Too many misconceptions & personal bias in this video.
TBH, if you really wanted BF1 to be more historically accurate , the gameplay would be boring as hell. Just wait in the trench for 90% of the match, then spend the remainder being sniped and slaughter. WW1 was hell on Earth.
the thing is bf1 is already boring. the game play strange for a battlefield game , the game feels like a cod one-up to fit in with "were different" bt no one making modern era game . TLDR it dosnt feel right and definitely dosnt feel like battlefield
ChairGaming Network CGN it feels more like an earlier Battlefield game like 1942
Verdun is more histocal accurate then BF1... and more boring.
Coincidence?
It is not like that. It could have been balanced out. There were videos about. ww1 wasnt only this. look at the game "Verden". Also it was such a huge opportunity to make bf fresh, make new gamemodes, change it a little. Tanks could have been rare and slow and gamemode could be based on that for example. Most of the soldiers should have had bolt action rifles and yes if done correctly it could have worked it would be balanced and it wouldnt be boring. Communication, spotting or rather the lack of it could have been base for game mechanic and stuff like that. But no they instead changed history to fit battlefield pattern. So most of weapons are prototypes that was never in war. Uniforms are done incorrectly, nations use others nations tanks and so on, just blatant lazyness + arcade elements.
Sam Remfry yea because lets be real bf1 plays like a ww2 shooter with all of that automatic guns that u could run around with
I really hope that the next Battlefield is Bad Company 3.
MichiganerE yeah I'd hate to see another WW2 game
Yup I want BC3
Sadly its most likely gonna be WW2 THEN BfBc3, according to the most trusted leak
BC3 is in 2020, BF WW2 is in 2018
MichiganerE Same
Weapons in BF1 kill slower than BF3 and BF4 though.
gequitz that only makes sense though. Weapons back then weren't as advanced or fully automatic, so of course that would happen
But also the soldiers almost hadn't real protection, maybe a iron helmet from time to time. Today, there are bullet proof vests and stuff
Kam Farzam That has nothing to do with it lol, a bullet its still a bullet and would still kill you, its all based on game design and with the new patch it feels more like older battlefield games
Kam Farzam That doesn't work like that at all.
Fastest movement speed however
I play battlefield 4 in 2018 it is a good game and good gameplay 😎😃🤔👍🏅💻🕹
it s indeed! the only problem is the hackers now ;(
I still play bf3 from time to time
CORY Belanger same , how many hours do you have ?
I don't
I've put in over 600 hours from December 25 2013 to summer 2014 when all the dlc maps came out
The end game was amazing especially the dragons tooth dlc
CORY Belanger same here
15:50 the behemoth was suppose to help the loosing team a chance which I loved
Ghost Tech I thought behemoths was a good idea. Keeps games closer and moving. It stops players camping out near objectives too long where it becomes impossible to recapture anything. I love the matches with evenly matched teams where the score is near neck and neck. More tense imo as you don't to be the one responsible losing that point or death.
With all the facts mentioned in the vid, Battlefield is no where near “terrible”, it has some issues but it’s just too good to be called “terrible”
RZheng 02 except BF1 that game just straight sucks
Adamfreeksack 03 bruh I got so bored of that game it made me switch to CoD
Luis Verdin same
I actually like Battlefield 1
So do I, but it may be partly due to the fact that I love the bolt action rifles
It is the best bf game to date not to many bullshit gadgets like bf3 and bf4.
I enjoy it to, can happily play it unlike BF4
i hate it
I been lately enjoying more Bf1 than Bf4
Battlefield 3 is still by FAR my alltime favorite Battlefield game. In my opinion it's still unmatched in the fluidity of gameplay, the realisation of the setting and sound design. Every weapon feels unique and strong in their own way and it has some of the most memorable maps of the franchise. That's all aside from the visuals that are still keeping up incredibly well. Just my opinion of course, but I still play it regularly, despite owning every single other BF game thats come out since BC2
Paradoxar Don't mistake your personal nostalgia for objective judgement.
Adam Sujkowski yea of course, i said it was just my opinion and in the end there is no real 'objective judgement' over what I enjoyed most. I can totally see why people prefer other games in the series, but BF3 is at the top for me, im still playing it
Paradoxar Bf3 maps were incredible
The maps were great
I still play it regularly... Gulf of oman is my favorite map. :)
Want trench warfare and historical accuracy? Go play verdun!
want realistic modern warfare go play arma or squad
Red Orchestra is also very accurate, and fun!
The game is not BAD cuz you Wanted a more realistic shooter!
I want to try milsims but which one is good for a newbie to start
@@catsareamazing3616 all the cqb ones i guess.
Battlefield 3 remains the best BF.
Great game but I think BF3's gunplay is unmatched and you could also go prone. Plus, map design was perhaps at it's finest.
BF3's gunplay was the worst in the series due to the suppression effect. It literally rewarded people for sucking and missing their shots lol. Both 3 and 4 suffered from lock on weapon issues as well, making flying in the games not enjoyable as you just spent the whole time dodging missiles from some scrub half way across the map staring at the sky.
BC2> all. BF1 could have been just as good, because it has really good gun balance but they have too much BS in the game unfortunately.
Al Capwned 100% agreed, any flaws were forgotten with the brilliant map design that allowed use of any class, it was fun, memorable and had that replay factor.
Ask any person to name a map from the Battlefield series and I bet the top answer will be Grand Bazaar or Metro.
I disagree, the only good maps were the classic BF2 maps that were ported over. Vanilla BF3 maps had too many bottleneck points. The game was good, but not a good Battlefield game. BF2 and BF2142 are the best in balanced gameplay.
The best with and 3 OP weapons, and the unique medic class, suppresion, blue screen, and kills all the time behind walls. PLS i play bft since bc2, stop being nostalgic, btf1 its the best btf ever made
Idk what you’re talking about. The “medics” have always had the best weapons up until BF1.
Eric Sapp ummm they still have the best weapons, from launch to the Fedorov to the latest update. Don't mention the Automatico or Hellriegel because they're given way too much credit than they deserve
Autoloading .35 was the best DPS gun in the game for a variety of close/middle ranges. M1907 was also versatile up close, and the German SLRs were straight-up auto snipers.
That’s what I’m saying, every kit’s weapons have pretty rigid optimal engagement ranges. Back it the days of BF3 and BF4, the assault class was able to do it all.
Eric Sapp why "until bf1" in your original comment?
BF2, eh? In all fairness, they had good weapons, but in no way better than assault or spec ops. Other classes had more specialized weapons, but that doesn't automatically mean "worse", does it? Except anti-tank. Their SMGs WERE abysmal.
Battlefield as a franchise is pretty *underrated* but I'm fine with that less toxic players
Exotic Beyond Yup, less toxic than COD players, also if you're only referring to bf1, COD players went to that game and made it more toxic than bf4
Exotic Beyond alright cool i guess
Toxic Brian rofl bf is not underrated at all.
Toxic Brian I see just as many toxic players in BF4 as in BF1.
TBX Battlefield underrated?
Are you kidding me?
I still remember my first match on Damavand Peak - Rush. To parachute down that mountain was one of the greatest gaming moments I had
Battlefield: A great & terrible franchise...but mostly great.
Isaiah Lagerquist exactly
No because of ea
LTG 248 ea sucks
"battlefield stands ALONE in what It offers - ground, air and vehicular combat" Planetside does not exist in this universe too bad...
Hirmikss except Planetside has crappy mechanics all around, and a development team that's running the game into the ground, alienating all but the most hardcore players.
Alexander Storm planetside 2 has bad mechanics??
I reckon they should just Start over and create a Planetside 3
Alexander Storm I wouldn't really compare the mechanics of PS2 to BF considering that PS2 at least does something different. All of BF's mechanics are just taken from other games.
But they're not fun. The gun-play is extremely floaty and has absolutely no impact, and since that is the cornerstone of the game, it failed to really do anything good. The vehicles are just okay, but there is nothing special about them to really write home about. It's a barely competent game that gained popularity because of scale and setting. Also, I never made any comparisons, I judged it by its own standards.
I started out utterly horrible at bf1, now after more than 600 hours of gameplay, I finish at the top of the leader board, k/d 3 and above. There are many ways to be horrible at a chaotic game like bf1, which is the epitome of a battle field, but you can always develop and be better over time, that’s what I think. I still adore the game, so atmospheric and chaotic, and every time I play I feel like I’m in a movie.
I actually started with BF1 then made my way backwards. I love all the games I've played so far, BF1 is still my favorite. I can completely understand why people don't like BF1 with things like the hellriegel and the sweet spot mechanic. Still a great video and very well constructed!
The Bad Company series were the best Battlefield games.
Master Vidxad 58 i was shocked to hear him say battlefield 4 is the best battlefield for him.
Its his opinion but still damn
Master Vidxad 58 I put so many hours into bf4 Idk why
I think the ability of vaulting over stuff overpowered him.
I tried to play BC2 after not having touched it for years, and honestly, without the nostalgia goggles on it just felt weaker mechanically and content-wise to both 3 and 4.
Facts, I want Bad Company 3!
Battlefield 4 will forever be the Best BF Game ever, I have over 800 hours on that game.
3600
360and1 Bob.
I still play it :)
Nah bad company 2
I don't know why when i was playing bf 4 i don't get a lot of kills compared to other players unlike bf 1 i always get highest kills or the second 5x kills min per match is it the physics of the games or what i don't get it
" for the sake of time I will be ignoring the irrelevant red headed step child of the franchise " lmao that is great
I stopped liking battlefield after BF3. I only played vietnam, BC 1 and 2, 1943 and BF3. I loved those games, but for me it died with bf4's launch.
Mister Pepe i still dont understand how 4 has worse graphics then 3
BF1 > CoD: WW2
Txrbo BF2 > BF1
Txrbo lego star wars complete saga > everything.
Doom 1994 > bf1
That One Gamer 247 I agree, doom is better than battlefield, without it there will be no battlefield
Doomguy ftw!
Cod>bf
His biggest Complaints for bf1 were problems that for the most have already been fixed, saying that bf1's gameplay is too fast pace is, and yet praise bf4's is dumb
Anyone know the song that starts at 1:24 ?
Whhhaaaaaat? Battlelog was great at the end...
i loved it, now i feel sad i have to go into bf1
DerMetzFetz yeah I liked it too but I remember hating it initially...
DerMetzFetz it is really aggravating
Apollo not Really imho
It took a community plugin to improve on it for sure, Early BF3 days with it was kinda rough but it was lovely to use by the time BF4 released.
BF1 gives me such a Star wars battlefront vibes game play wise...It just feels so much more casual
Just its other type of gameplay, but because you and other people dont like it, doesnt mean its bad.
Dont Worry About It sweet-spot field 1 haha
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because it uses battlefront and hardline hybrid mechanics, i noticed it instantly in first round of BF1 on the beta when they had a open beta on PC, instantly hated it, as well as Battlefront and latest version of frostbite go hand to hand, they built that engine with in mind of Battlefront 1, so this is why you feel like your playing a childs game, and not a more hardcore or harder experience then lets say BF3 .
joe own that make non sense, the engine its frostbite 3 is the same as btf4, they never build an engine especially for battlefront they just polished it, wtf are you talking about btf3 never has been a hardcore game hahaha
13:09 this is incorrect. The only paid-for dlc the game has is the original 5 expansion packs. If you were to include premium members and people who only play the base game, then it’s 7 different subgroups, not 9.
Bf2 tho
Let's hope BF5 is more like BF4...
Finally someone says it
Joan Garcia 3*
yeah well i wont buy anything from DICE anymore....no matter how good it will be
you can still wait a couple of weeks after launch to judge the game, that's how I usually decide to buy a game or not, after the community's initial feedback, that saved me 60$ with Battlefront 2
Joan Garcia yeah thats what i did with bf1 too. Despite the hate i really like it and i think it were well-spent 50.-
If you stopped playing it because you liked the gameplay from games such as bf3 more (i did too for some time) you should definately revisit it. The ttk patch changed a lot and imo it feels way better now.
I remember Bad Company 2 gave Battlefield veterans M1 Garands for use in multiplayer. I remember using the gun almost exclusively. Oh the memories...
I would love another Bad Company, with same comedic approach the the single player. While bringing back the damn good map design of the series. With the destruction as well.
I agree with you on BF4 being the best (after the updates). I have quite a few hours on that game. Originally bought it for Xbox One, the switched to the PC. I still play BF4 to this day.
AvengedKyle I did play bf4 the whole year it was broken, just cuz i love the game and the progression and end game was FREE! Other hand bf1 dont offer anything its just a easy cashgrab game you play some hours a day
Atsuke93 I agree, BF1 wore off it's welcome very quickly. Why offer bolt action rifles when everyone is using automatics? Also, the game had maybe 5 guns per class. If you don't count the guns "Optic, factory, or trench" variation.
Im with you on the garand. It was just about the only thing i used. But Bf1 is my favorite for now. Not having any of this lock on, laser guided bullshit is so nice. Im kinda hoping next game will go WW2, have bad companys destruction and bf3s gameplay
AvengedKyle Can you recorver you bf4 accout ps4/xbox one to yout pc?
Its Just an Apple Not that I know of. I just managed to get back and surpass where I was.
I have never played BF3 but Bad Company 2 was awesome. Well and then I started to play BF4 which I thought would be a good bridge to the release of BF1. Well today I still have BF4 installed on my pc but haven‘t deleted BF1 since half a year. My most favorite shooter is Rainbow Six Siege because I like the brutal difficulty, but if you compare action shooters, BF4 is the best. Still looks amazing today, gameplay is so fine and it is the perfect mix of action and strategic gameplay. Pinnacle of shooters.
Sup bandit, don't dare putting your car batteries in reinforced walls, att. Thermite
The song i heard in this video when i was at 0:02 sent me chills down my back
You're completely missing what the "rooted in history" quote for Battlefield one meant. The game is "rooted in history", everything in the game is historically authentic - which means it existed in or around the time period of the game, basically everything feels like it fits the setting.
That doesn't mean at an overall level when you take into account an entire match as a whole, but individually in separation they all fit in; every weapon, vehicle, location, uniform etc matches a world war 1 setting. It may not be a true portrayal of the thing and it might not be realistic, but it is still authentic to the setting.
The game achieves what it tried to do, which was create a Battlefield game with a World War one theme. It wasn't trying to be a realistic WW1 game, the series and how it plays wouldn't allow that without removing the core of what makes it a Battlefield game.
The game isn't realistic or entirely accurate to the historical version, but it is still "rooted in history", as like that developer says in the quote, it's all real equipment, weapons, vehicles etc from the time period.
TheVoidDragon agreed, if it were a true authentic and real WW1 shooter everybody would be stuck in trenches far away popping shots at each other every so often, doesn’t sound like a good game. They did the setting really well when it came to this, and did it the best they could
Aaron Gutierrez maybe on the western front, but trenches weren't really used in the same way on the eastern front
Ok then I could make a ww2 game with the soviet army landing in belgium in another dday, make fighting in versailles and call it «rooted in history» because all the guns and uniform shown existed ?
Romain good alternate history series usually have to be 'rooted in history' to be effective, taking into account why things happened the way they did and how a different thing happening would have mattered
unless you're just doing full on sci-fi, then it really wouldn't make sense to say its rooted in history
No, that would be doing something which has absolutely no historical
basis, BF1 is based on history in the sense that it all feels like it
belongs and has a historical reason to be in the game, there isn't
anything they included that doesn't fit the time period/setting. The
weapons, uniforms vehicles etc in your example would still be
historically authentic to WW2, sure, but you're still doing something
alternate-history as the core of the setting rather than what are simply
caveats for gameplay reasons, which is not the same situation here at
all. Battlefield one gets the background history side of things close
enough to be believable, it's the realism it doesn't do, but that's on
purpose to make it a Battlefield game.
Basically, your example misunderstands what the "rooted in history"
means as well, as the scenario you chose wouldn't be authentic to the
other elements included (soviets) in the slightest - it isn't believable at all.
I feel like this was written by someone who only started playing Battlefield just recently
who played battlefield 1 only once on release
What track at 5:56?
Battlefield 3 was how I was introduced to first person shooters. It was literally the first first person shooter I ever played
Battlefield 1 has issues yes, but the ones you talked about like the ttk have been resolved or are unrealistic like your expectation for a real ww1 experience
actually i would love to have a trench worfare game mode
The Grand Admiral Verdun is pretty fun, not nearly as fun as BF1 IMO, but trench warfare can be fun. It’s just that it’s not aimed for everyone, very slow-paced gameplay.
you got nivelle night map. pure trench warfare.
Well i don't think people expected trench warfare. But if you go back in time where guns where hardly automatic, and it they where the recoil was uncontrollable you expect slower gameplay. But the gameplay speed went only faster and faster, thats not really wat alot of people wanted to happen. What i would have done was making the recoil of all guns twice as much, but thats just my opinion.
Yes, I honestly think they tackled it very very well, all 4 battlefield games i've playes have been VERY arcady if you compare them to real warfare??
And he isn't even right about the "pase" thing as all weapons up until now have pretty much taken an extra bullet to kill an enemy compared to previous games.
This isn't the "hard truth", it's just opinion.
Its a manner of speaking, in the same tone truth cannot be hard or soft as it is an absolute concept.
p.s. besides this is an opinion video, he does not have to say, i believe, or i think every time he makes a statement.
Blue Skull series has gone down the shitter trying to bring in casuals
Nelson Griggs meh.
Blue Skull you must be one of them lol. KD under 2 probably cas
Nelson Griggs wouldnt know. Haven't played in awhile.
bf 2 is best bf game
I loved all of comments on each battlefield title!! They were well thought out.
Meanwhile, Origins got cracked in 99 days.. BRAH!
El Diablo Kash that's longer than most games
yeah, Fifa 18 got cracked in 7 hours lol xDDD
I want Westwood studios back, Command and Conquer FTW
gee thanks man, now i gotta go play that again #memorylane
tiberium wars and generals
You make good points sometimes but a lot of the time it seems you’ve a lot to say about nothing. I think what would benefit your essays/critique more was if you didn’t frame them in clickbait garbage tier titles and thumbnails just to get clicks. Your content is better than an inflammatory top ten list, you shouldn’t present it as such. Unsubbed for now. Best of luck.
Jam Thief Unsubbed since his Warframe video a week or two ago. It was so poorly representative of how the game actually is and was a very unprofessional way to review the game, by only putting like 80 hours into a game that requires at least 200 to fully understand what Warframe actually is.
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Exotic Beyond I bet he is not. Everything he said is true.
Exotic Beyond you’re*
Exotic Beyond how is he triggered? You sound more triggered
This video was so good and interesting to watch today and I hope everybody is having a good day :]
When that bad company 2 music kicked in, i started humming it and I got goosebumps. BFBC2 and BF3 were so amazing man
Sadly no mention of the BF2 mod Project Reality.
that mod is a immersive gem
indeed indeed
one round in PR with random people = more teamwork than the entire BF-franchise together.
Who tf buys cod and bf for the campaign like really
Deni Katsman Why is it the only thing you see in the trailers then?
I always play the campaign before multiplayer, this way I get a feel for the guns, look, and mechanics of the game. For instance, I absolutely loved how Battlefield 1’s campaign was formulated, with different war stories that all showed different parts of the game. I disliked the multiplayer because I felt it was dominated by grenade spam, snipers, and the specialists or whatever the are, like the guy with the flamenwurfer. I suppose that is to be expected with a lack of tall buildings and a capitalization on huge, flat areas with the occasional trench or bunker.
You nailed this video. Channel WAY underrated!
I honestly don't care that BF1 wasn't that historically accurate. It is fun to me and everything in the game did exist in that time period. I think if the game focused more on slow, trenches, and only bolt action rifles. The game would be a total flop.
WTF was that sales chart at 6:05 ? That is so inaccurate. In EA's recent investor's call, they confirmed BF1 has sold 25 million copies, and it is the highest selling BF game ever.
25 million copies sold, average player count 113,016...
Ivan Buncic I'm not saying BF1 is good (I don't like it). I'm just stating a fact.
They sold 80% of that when game released. Now bearly anyone is buying it.
Ivan Buncic What the hell is your point? lmao, what you're saying has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm saying
PATOOFA the internet.
There were only 5 dlc packs released that were paid. Community Ops, Night Ops, and Legacy Ops were all free updates. Sure you have to download them, which does take a while. But the only ones that were paid addons were China Rising, Second Assault, Naval Strike, Dragon's Teeth and Final Stand.
Where's Hardline on the graph at 6:03 in?
Battlelog was awesome and unique and except that battlefield 4 and battlefield harldine had battlelog too not only battlefield 3 .
Battlelog performs a whole lot better than this new In-Game console-style interface
A Great & Terrible Franchise: A Great & Terrible Essay Form
xXX xXx how
xXX xXx dear to make one, I'm waiting. No? So I thought.
Dears aren't able to make them
“A Great & Terrible..” or “I am 13 and this title is so deep”
xXX xXx you right homie, its mediocre at best
I bought bf4 premium with all dlc for just 12$
i think you explained it exactly the way i would, and had the exact same opinions, on everything.great video, got a sub
Let's hope DICE doesn't fall with EA's tactics, Battlefield is a love Franchise and I look forward to see what it offers for the years to come! As usual nice video Downward Thrust :3
Why are 75% of your clips showing you missing shots or just plain dying?
I'm not trying to hate, most of your points were good and all, but you can't expect everyone to listen to a guy who's supposedly BEST clips of each game are that terrible. Sure, you could have been low on time, but come on, any decent player could have gotten better moments than those..
ParagoN because the average players experience is about 60-70% dying. It's way easier to watch a video of relatable gameplay results than to watch 10 minutes of some greasy teen grinding for 40 hours for that one golden game which we all know happens once in your life.
Dude, step off your high horse. Do you honestly think anyone clicked on this video looking for gameplay? So don't go out there insulting people like an ass.
And if this gameplay is 'relatable' to yours, then I'm truly sorry for you.
Look, I'm not saying his gameplay makes his points invalid, I actually agree with most of what he said, but if you're trying to show something so that people listen, at least show them you know how to do the thing you're talking about.
That's probably his most recent clips - I record my gameplay 3/4 of the time even though my latency is around 200 - 400 most days and I just use my most recent clips because looking through my footage of the couple of hours of gameplay takes to long to just find good gameplay let alone clip it out and put it to a couple other good scenes
Battlefield was at it´s best with BF3 and BF4(after the fixes)! Those 2 are what the series is all about:
Great maps, vehicle combat, destruction, huge weapon progression, good mix of recoil and arcade style guns aswell as the best FPS to play with friends!
You missed battlefield 2142
Historical warfare? Lol, everyone is equipped with automatics and semi autos.
Also no mention of Project Reality? That makes me sad. From what I have seen, PR still has several hundred players and the community is surprisingly helpful for such a hardcore game (as long as you are on a EU, US or OZ server)
He said it isn't historical.
I wonder why their is no popular WW1 games, it's almost as if people don't enjoy semi auto rifles in their games or something.
Serathis you guys act like there's no automatics gun in WW1 lol
You mean man portable, mass produced and equipped automatic guns in WW1? They weren't used widely even in WW2. Squads were outfitted with bolt action rifles for the overwhelming majority. The russians were the first to field SMG squads for urban warfare.
The automatic SMGs in Sniperfield 1 were for the most part prototypes. Afaik, LMGs were not even a concept in that era. Most machine guns were actually really heavy and water or oil cooled.
Serathis yeah but you're forgetting that the battles in battlefield 1 takes place near the end of the war and only has 64 people in it, compared to WW1's real numbers per battle.
And I'm pretty sure most armies in WW1 used an SMG at one point with Germany's storm trooper being pretty well known
Why didn’t he mention Battlefield: Heroes? It was not the best, but it is still fun to play on Rising Hub. (The revival program)
Had the best theme in the series! :P
Also does anyone remember the like 4 multiplayer dlc packs that DICE released for bad company 2 for FREE even years after the original release?
It seems that the "rooted in history" is a marketing line to attract those who like the WWI setting. I wonder what DICE had in mind when they said "rooted in history". Did a historical paintjob? Did they mean historical application of tactics?
Do a Did it fail video pls
he made many videos about this, just look at his channel ヽ(ヅ)ノ but tbh, i think he only dislikes the game bcs of its fast paced gameplay. i can understand him 100%, but just keep that in mind, not everyone thinks the way he does ^^
13:55 I completely forgot that battlefield hardline was/is a thing
I just got bf4 with premium for 5$, but I wanted to know what made hardline so bad and what happened with it. Make a video on it?
The biggest problem I have with Battlefield 1 is the fact that only 4 airplanes are allowed per map. They should've made a seperate game mode specifically for air combat.
Mayank Verma they are making an air combat gamemode but its dlc i think
K-Fire Really?? THANK GOD
Mayank Verma just search it
lol, does anyone remember Air Superiority on Coral Sea from BF1943? xD
Mayank Verma it’ll be a dead game mode within a month tho. Air superiority in recent BF games don’t last long
*TL;DR* - Your analysis of the franchise was fun to watch until the final segment on BF1 which I believe you unfairly nitpicked. I personally feel that your content is not of good quality ever since you increased the rate of videos.
Sorry but your gameplay issues make no sense to me as a battlefield veteran:
- Sniper rifles are supposed to be accurate and have always been in the franchise
- Grenade spam was far worse in BC2 and 4
- BF3/4/ all had faster times to kill than 1 until the most recent update which brings it to par with those titles
- Picking equipment off the ground isn't a negative as it provides value to the capture points you are fighting over
- Questioning authenticity is an understandable criticism but you can still play "back to basics" servers with SLRs only if it ruins the game for you otherwise
-The sandbox element is what makes battlefield great so why is running ontop of a behemoth to blow it up or defend it a bad thing?
- There are many trench maps currently available along side traditional battlefield open and closed maps
-The behemoth system itself can work half the time and gives losing teams a morale boost and more competent teams a challenge to coordinate against, I do agree that the dreadnought is just awful to fight against however.
he lost me at bf1 is the fastest battlefield to date. nade spam was the worst at bf2, remember strike at karkand? authenticity was not a staple of battlefield since bc2. in bc2, bf3, bf4 there was a lot of guns that are not the issue rifle of any country in the world.
I can't agree more.
He definetly changed from his old videos. The only people who say battlefield is a terrible franchise are people that never played a battlefield game or just cod fanboys.
The only bad thing that is bad about battlefield is it publisher EA.
i am also a BF vet, since 1942 BF, i started playing, and lot of BC and BF2 ect, worst BF game is hardline and BF1, sorry to say, just because you are a vet, doesn't exactly mean you are correct, i do respect your opinion, but fanboysim to the side, bf1 is crap, its more arcade its more casual, the skill cap is low, the gameplay is for peasants that think they good at the game but really suck at playing fps games that require skill, it has less content then BF3 BF4 even hardline and thats saying something, lack of guns, the lack of vehicles, its a shadow of its former self, it has more a Battlefront mix with hardline feel to it. sorry to shut you down man, but don't defend the game just because you are a fan of the game, critic it and expect more from the BF franchise for it to improve.
joe own do you realize how elitist you sound calling people who like a game "peasants"
nebraska avenger thats what you think but i view cod player as peasant as well any casual game for the masses are gernally peasant i view bf1 the same. Idc who is elite fam honestly don't care lol, casual peeps by definition are simple aka in old tongue peasant.
i jumped back on 4 and its something ive missed in so long
One of the most overlooked aspects of Battlefield 1 is its fantastic atmosphere. Although the things you can do are limited, the graphics and sound design make uo for it. Sometimes it's just fun to play a game that's aesthetically pleasing.
Battlefield 2142
battlefield 3 is love battlefield 3 if life
Do people still play bad company 2 on pc?
Good vid but it had kind of an abrupt and flat ending. You should've shared more thoughts on future projects.
Also: BF 2142...?
The peek for the series for me is bf3 I spent so many hours with my friends on that so many great maps I like bf4 but man alot of its maps just feel meh and levolution was decent. Bf1's one dumb attachments as a new guns is so dumb the damage control "but its ww 1 they didnt have alot of guns" They should've done ww2 then. I really like the rag dall effect in bf1 and i feel bf1 to have better maps than 4 but thats it. I fear for the next bf game
They did it so there weren't overpowered weapon attachment combinations and because nobody in bf4 and bf3 took the time to actually do the math and see which attachments do the best
I lost interest in battlefield once it stopped being a competative shooter. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare ruined everything when it comes to competative shooters, unlocking gear and equipment changed the focus away from gameplay and towards grinding. A competative game should give everyone the same equipment and gear from the get go, the appeal should be purely gameplay wise.
I really do miss Battlefield 1942 and BF2. Not to mention all of their mods!
Oh, and the fact that the older games had LAN support. It's one of the main reasons I'm never going to buy another EA shooter ever again, the lack of lan support negates every reason for buying it.
Your thoughts on BF1 are spot on. Well done :)
4 is hands down my favorite, but I picked it up like a year and a half ago so everything was fixed by then. I got everything for $20-$30 too, so that makes it a pretty good deal in my book!
I feel like me and my friends are the only ones who like bf3 suppression.