3 Problems I Have With Zippo Butane Inserts
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Reoccurring Problems I have with The zippo butane insert selection
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0:00 Intro
0:43 Denting
1:35 Area Most Likely To Dent
2:20 Functionality
4:03 Reliability
6:00 What I Like & Why I Use Still
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I really appreciate your videos and agree with all of your observations especially regarding butane inserts. I don't smoke cigarettes or weed but I do enjoy pipe tobacco. I am still on the hunt for the PERFECT lighter. My ideal lighter would have: 90° standing soft flame, butane, decent wind resistance, fits in my Zippo cases, flint spark (not piezo). I have the newish Zippo yellow flame insert and it comes closest to my ideal. I also like the standard fluid pipe inserts. I'm not too put off by the smell and taste of fluid but the constant refilling gets old. I use your repacking and baggie tricks and they certainly help. I'm only a once or twice a week piper so when I pick up my fluid models they are almost always empty. That's where butane shines. I've tried all the other inserts and they ALL come up lacking in one or two of my ideal requirements. I'm not sure if my ideal is even possible. This yellow flame butane ZIPPO insert is the bee's knees but it can be improved. I really hope Zippo comes out with a pipe model butane insert. That would be the cat's rear end lol. Thanks again for posting your content. Its cool that there are kindred spirits out there that enjoy the fidgety little details of personal gadgets. I'm fussy about certain personal possessions that one carries daily: lighters, knives, pistols, flashlights and the like... I enjoy the journey down the rabbit hole. Cheers from the Arizona mountains USA.
Hey no problem buds. Thanks for leaving a comment. Yeah I think if the yellow flame was a pipe insert it would be the perfect insert. I’ve figured out a way to turn a regular pipe insert to a butane with a scrap zorro butane insert. Havent had the time to make it though. But in my opinion it would be the best insert u get as it is a just regular zippo pipe insert modified.
Thanks for the reply amigo. That mod sounds cool. I had pretty good luck with a Z-pipe insert. Must have got a good one. Doesn't leak and has the 90° sideways soft flame i like but it's not a standing flame and it's not a flint light. Also it's not a Zippo brand so that's a point deduction from the get go lol. I'll be interested to see your mods. Take care friend.
Pretty sure they have a pipe one now right?
@@NovaIsTheBotthey do, I have one, its amazing
I love my Zippos for their old school feel. The re-fueling, the smell of the lighter fluid. I use a bic lighter for everything else.
Yeah love the regular fluid. I use zippo yellow flame for “everything else” lol
That was awesome, very great video cheers
Thanks buds !!
The issue with the jets lighting could be the piezoelectric igniter or the spark gap if the wire has moved or is crusty on the end. The easiest first step is to scrape the end of the wire with the reamer from a Swiss army knife or a diamond file then make sure it is pointing straight out towards the center of the jet in both planes for the proper gap. If that doesn't work you might need to replace the igniter, you can rebuild them sometimes, but they are dirt cheap and unless you know what you are doing it's better just to get a new one. 9 out of 10 times the clean and recenter will do the trick, but they do wear out especially if it's been in a humid environment or you tend to burn the lighter for more than 5 seconds at a time. The heat is conducted by the wire and it can melt the insulation or the connection between the wire and the igniter. Sometimes the crystal becomes displaced or the plastic housing gets stretched out from aggressive attempts to light due to other issues. I never throw them out, because occasionally I will combine the working parts to make one good one from two broken igniters. The only other issues that I have run into are clogged jets from either cheap dirty butane or the residue from the cheap hoses on gas station lighters. You can dissolve the gunk with 90%rubbing alcohol and then blow it out with butane or compressed air, just be sure to do it before the alcohol all evaporates or the gunk won't go anywhere. You can avoid that by using a very clean butane and buying a decent lighter with a replacement garuantee.
Thanks again for the content
My pleasure!
there's probably some article that explains what really happens but my guess would be that the butane itself loses the pressure it needs to work, in the cold. pressure and temperature are so closely linked they're almost the same thing. this works the other direction too I bet if you put a butane container/lighter in an oven it would explode from the pressure rise
Yeah works good in the summer lol
On here because im looking for one, but think imma stick to a cheap bic lighter, cheap, easy to fill and reliable. Is the yellow flame also bad in the cold?
👍🏼I just ordered a torch insert. About to watch your tips & tricks vid.
Don’t use zippo or ronson butane then. Order yourself some good stuff
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors 👍🏼
I’m cheap was hoping to use cheap with your tips and tricks. :) what kind is the good stuff?
@@andrewfett142 colibri
@@andrewfett142 youll have a horrible time with your insert using ronson or butane trust me. These inserts require quality butane
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors
ok fine!!! 😆😁
Best video, thank you
No problem buds !
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors can not wait until next vid. Best
I'm never had that problem but I have a method when I feel it I've been using butane for 10 years... after you hold it for 8 Seconds give it three or four pumps that fixed air bubble problem
Have you ever considered doing a review of the actual different butanes that you use for your refills? Zippo brand vs other premium refined choices? Cheers
I thought about it but in Europe , Asia , USA all the brands are different then what I’m using in Canada
Totally agree bruh! I have the same problems with my zippo 2ble torch, but i keep it because i love how it looks... when it decides to ignite haha
Gotta turn up the governor and it will run fine. I use mine edc
@Zippo Fanatic 77 Outdoors I'll do it ASAP, thanks!
@@abrahamascencio4845 yeah watch my video on it. Let me know how it works after
I really wished the yellow insert could imitate the traditional inserts more like Thunderbird (minus their shit quality and leaking in my experience). As a cigar smoker and a Zippo lover, butane gives me the best of both worlds. Hope they make a slim butane insert soon and a brass colored one too.
There was a company that used to make slim butane insert. They are hard to find now. I don’t like any butane that’s set up like a regular zippo. The whole cam spring gas leak is in every design like that. Zippp Yellow flame is the only way to go. All I use now
Looking for one for edc and camping. I’m looking at the Ronson jet lite or a zippo single jet butane. I’ve heard the Ronson is more reliable??and I’ve heard mixed reviews on the zippo single jet. Some say works great and many say it won’t work at all even after bleeding it etc. What’s everyone’s opinion? Looking at torch because of windproof
Anybody who says they don’t work don’t know how to use them. Which is about half the population haha. U can’t use zippo or ronson butane in them. And u need to adjust flame adjustment governor a little higher. Been using all
Mine from 2020 since they came out no issues.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors sweet. Yea I heard you had to do a little tinkering and take it apart to adjust some stuff. Thanks for the response
How long does the butane one last if not used? I carry a lighter in case someone needs a light, so I don't use it all that often. I stopped carrying Zippos because I would refill it, and then when I finally tried to use it, the fuel was gone. Other than when it is cold, do the butane ones hold the fuel better?
Mine sit there for months if I don’t use them. Year even
is there a difference in inserts for a classic and an armor? If so, where do I get an insert for armor?
Hey got question when you buy high polish brass zippo it got gold like color eventually it got tarnished so you decided to polish it as a result of it you get high polish zippo but with more yellow color very different from stock one why is that?
They put a coating on it. Makes it look like that
I just bought a bunch of the single torches then after just a couple uses, they crap out the gas is coming out and sparking, but they just won’t light
Least for me so far the single torch has been great and i get a huge flame and it lights everytime so far without fail. The soft flame didn't work for me and I even counted 24 strikes to get one flame which I don't know if the butane its self is the culprit so might try the Xikar butane I bought as i do see a good spark everytime. For me I'm not a smoker so I don't light it every day so although I like the original insert it's not practical for me
Nice man glad u have one that works for u ! I use the single torch every day it’s in my armor outside right now with lol. Little bit of a breeze and working fine. Yellow flame isn’t so great in a breeze lol
Yeah that's also one other problem with the regular flame is it goes out in wind. I use an armor case on mine as I have the black ice 360 multi cut armor wolf. I do have to agree an armor case especially with the butane insert definitely make it a beefy lighter but I do kinda like that to be honest.
@@SubaruWRC1996 yeah it is nice having a heavy lighter. Black ice armor wolf is a beauty !!! I really like that zippo but not willing to spend 250$ on it here in Canada.
For me it was supposed to be £140 but I managed to get it on sale for £110 which I think is around 160 dollars I think but It is definitely a great looking zippo. My sister has already tried to steal it and I told her to get her own 🤣
The new lighting is great!
Sweet ! Thanks revan. Hope u had a good weekend buds
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Ditto my friend
@@therevan7288 kids are still using that term ? We used to use it in the late 80’s early 90’s lol.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors I got no clue, all I know is that I use it on occasion.
@@therevan7288 haha I guess cool things just never die
Based on your experience are thunderbird butane lighters have good quality like its components can last a long time?
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my single barrel butane is also not lighting up. Now it makes a flame for like half a second before cutting out.
Do you need to empty the whole thing every time you refill?
Might have tried to refill it at least 10 times today without completely emptying it.
Try a high quality butane or watch my video on how to turn up the governor
I did try that, and have observed that I get a flame if the release is somewhat low, but far from how the insert should be working. If I turn it up more the gas doesn't get lit. Maybe it's not so good butane, but I have a hard time believing that the stuff we get here in Germany is bad or anything, usually we have good gas products.@@Zippofanatic77outdoors
can't you use a different type of butane in the winter? cuz i usually play airsoft in the winter and my gas pistol just doesnt work, but with a certain type of gas it does. isn't the same with zippo butane?
No idea buds. Never looked into it. Sounds interesting though.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors And I know nothing about air soft guns, but what I know is that propane will return to its gaseous state upon release at below freezing temperatures while butane will not. That's why you should pack a propane cooker when you are going ice fishing instead of one that uses butane. Lighter butane is usually around 80% butane with the rest being a mix of propane and isobutane. Lighter gas sold for torch lighters sometimes has 100% isobutane written over it.
Wish I knew before I ordered that the double butane does not fit an armor, the lid has a gap, I ordered two armor in high polish, one in chrome and one brass, my thought was having the brass with butane for cigar smoking and the chrome with regular as an everyday carrier....
The double fits nicely in 41’s and vintage looks of your interested in one of those lol. Yeah. Same thing happened to me obv lol
So just wondering in your opinion, should I get a Zippo torch or a Zorro torch?
I prefer zippo. U might need to turn up the governor which is super simple. But I find it more functional. Zorro is more affordable though
New lighting looks good, those customs really pop now.
Thanks hemi ! Appreciate the feed back. Hope U had a good weekend
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors waaaaay too much to drink last night lol
@@57HEMIviken at least u will he healed up by Monday
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors my work week starts tonight lol
@@57HEMIviken many more weekends to make bad decisions
Let there be light thanks Mike I see much better now THANKS !¡!
Anytime Scott !
Great video. Very informative.🙂✌
Thanks terry !!
Very welcome. Yes, the new light does make it better to see more details on the lighters.🔥
@@zippolyonsden1623 thanks ! As I watched the video on the tv I could see that also. Always trying to improve ! Lol
I hear that. I do all my videos with my phone in one take. Thus no editing lol.
@@zippolyonsden1623 haha yup same here.
Sweet watch your wearing!
Thanks !
Let there be light and there was !
Works great too ! Thanks Mike !!
Right on
So I got my first zippo yesterday and watched your video on how to reroute the wick and fill the zippo. I have been smelling a lot of gas and woke up with a sore swollen throat. Is that from the lighter fluid or am I just sick?
Hahaha u should be asking your doctor. I dunno zippo fluid never made me or anyone I know feel like that. Are u drinking it ? Lol
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors no I’m just accidentally inhaling it when I light mah lighter. On a more serious note, when I light my zippo the flame is at regular height, but then it starts to die down slowly until it goes out so what do i do
@@NoahGrace44 have u repacked the insert ?
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors not yet
@@NoahGrace44 watch this video and do it like this. Use the sandwich bag trick. U will never have that issue again. The problem is the way it’s jammed up in there by the company. ua-cam.com/video/u9j-DBGKL94/v-deo.html
I think the yellow flame butane insert has a beautiful design, unlike the torch inserts, and I like that it uses flints. One reason why your torch inserts are not reliable anymore may be that the piezo crystals are on borrowed time. What I don't like about the yellow flame insert is that it has zero protection from wind and that you have to hold down the button all the time. Most likely, durable standing flame butane lighters are a challenge -- Vector G and P inserts are notorious for eventually leaking gas out of the release valve when it is supposed to be closed. But Ronson's Windlite Varaflame never had that reputation, so it might be possible. One thing I like about standing flames is that you can hold the lighter the way you want. This can be useful when you want to light a pipe with a lighter that is not a pipe lighter. The Zippo standard insert works rather well for pipes if you make use of the standing flame feature. The standard insert is also good to give somebody a light with an extended arm. When people ask you for a light and you have matches or a Bic lighter, they will often come close so they can shield the flame from the wind with their body. With a Zippo or IMCO, you can give somebody a light with an extended arm if you want to. I may come off as a bit anal in that regard, but I don't like people getting awfully close to me. Last month, a (presumably) homeless man came very close to me, and I actually stood back. I mean, Covid is still a thing. He laughed and sneezed at me. I left in a huff. You cannot take a joke, eh? No, I cannot, I said.
Yeah one draw back for me is the terrible wind resistance lol. But I don’t bring it outside anyways. I only carry zippo fluid inserts when I leave the house.
I found a lighter at the dollar store that has the same crystal mechanism. Just waiting for mine to eventually die and show people how to do it
Well stated Anneke. I agree with all of your points.
I'm digging mine so far because regular Zippos don't tilt well tomstart fires and outdoor use.
Yeah torches are nice for tilting. But where I live in Canada it won’t help u when it’s cold. That’s where the fluid comes in supreme. If u have to tilt your zippo to lite a fire try using your zippo to lite a piece of birch bark or paper or cardboard or whatever u have. Then use that piece u lit to lite the fire. Youll never have to tilt your zippo again.
I find that the torches work great if you frequently use heatshrink
Nice. I use them to clean the screen in my bong
Can you explain please for a newbie? (Buying first butane insert). TIA
@@rucksackransack Buy single torch, double torch often spurts fuel and tanks is very small and double just chugs the butane, single lasts a lot longer and is still very good
Perfect for table lighters that aren't used as much
Yeah that’s my main purpose for everyone lol
i work in a lab where i need a small butane torch lighter everywhere i go to sterilize my platnum wire pick i use for handeling worms. These lighters are perfect for me. I just wish they had a little mote capacity. I have to pause the experiemtn for everh refill and run to by bench and grab the refill canister. A yellow flame leaves soot on my wire and the flints shave small fragments of metal dust that can contaminate my samples.
Oh that’s cool! Zippo sells a big butane torch if that’s something your interested in
I want butane inserts for the zippo slim model.
I know ! I wish they still made those
I'm always aware about the tech, more complicate-more hard to fix..like the old carburator cars..Finally i found a Yellow Flame, bought 2 because of out of stock market, working great and compatible with my other lighters cases,1 armor included..I was attempted to buy a Single Torch just for fun, but i think my cheapest Clipper can do a better job, never had a butane trouble and can feel the state if shaking..Btw, how to change the battery ?
Yeah the yellow flame are bullet proof. My fav ones.there isn’t a battery on there. It’s this little striker thing. U can pull them out of cheap dollar store lighters
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Nice to know if something wrong and,my fault, i was asking for Single Torch battery replacement..if it is any
@@torukmahtomahto409 there isn’t a battery it’s a striker mechanism that produces electricity when u push down. U can get replacements out of cheap lighters
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Thank for your time, i think i was confussed by arc zippo...Take care..
@@torukmahtomahto409 oh the arc zippo. I don’t know much about those.
I Finally got one so I can use Some of My Higher End Exotic Zippos without using the Original Inserts. I like to use My Special Zippos at High end Dress Up Functions & Business Meetings. It's More Particular to Light Someone's Cigar or Hot Chicks Cigarette with a Zippo. A Bic Ligjter will only tarnish Your Reputation in such a Situation. I wonder if The Added Weight will Affect Certain "Zippo Tricks"? (Like the "Twilight Zone") I'll have to get the Feel for it. I also like the Sound of The Double Torch. It sounds Like a Mini Jet Engine 😂. Good Video Review/Persp 9:18 ective My Friend!
Nice ! Glad u finally got one. And your right. Much easier to use your nice zips and yeah buddeh zippo is 1000% about class. I couldn’t imagine someone thinking they are a true tobacciana connoisseurs and pulling out a bic lighter. U look like a chump lol
My Zorro single torch insert works great. Doesn't leak. Only thing is that it needs a little warmth to work well, but the heat in your pants pocket is more than enough.
I also like how the zorro single torch keeps the lid straight and tight when it’s closed.
What causes the spark?
I can’t remember the name but it’s thing that generates electricity when u push down on it
The advantage of using lighter fluid is gasoline can be used as an easy to get substitute fuel. To dramatically slow evaporation just stretch a wide rubber band over the lid seam. Mine keeps fuel for well over a month.
Yeah everyone knows that trick. Annoying for an everyday user. Ain’t moving a rubber band every 20 mins to use my zippo
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors okay. Gotcha!
Fit the Zippo butane inserts in a 1941 Replica?
I show what inserts fit every zippo in this video
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Got my soft flame,i so hope this one doesn't die like the Single Torch 😪
This one is pretty durable Steve u have nothing to worry about. Especially since u can change your flint. This one gonna last on u.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors I so hope this one doesn't get Air pockets! I love the hybrid feel of a regular insert and butane insert in it! Regular inserts are becoming a luxury to maintain lol
@@stevewonder8766 haha. Yeah because of the fuel gauge for the yellow flame. I find they suffer less from the air pocket problem. The high capacity pressure of the torch seems to cause the pocket. It does happen in the yellow flame. If u refill it and notice the flame is small. Bleed it.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Aye aye captain! Gonna do what the Doc says! 🍺😁
@@stevewonder8766 lol u won’t have issues. I havent had any with 2 yellow inserts. following the same Steps.
I actually use my lighter to smoke ...stuff. so without the butane insert zippos are all but useless for me personally. Lighter fluid is great for a emergency kit but even then not in a Zippo maybe an imco. As far as the window to be able to see how full it is ya that would be kinda nice to have I guess but after you have used butane for years it's really quite simple to fill to the top withiut seeing it. And really you should be burping butane lighters before you fill em up each time and just barely right after. Also too full causes huge unwanted flame. To fill up and make sure it's full you fill up like normal but then when you think your about full you push the nozzle in and out quickly 4 or 5 times push push push push... If that makes any sense.
In reality, in all practical senses butane is the superior choice for most any applications aside from maybe nostalgic...
See I can fix that single torch butane is my thing and they are some butane lighters that light in the very cold but you got to have a waterproof case
Yeah there’s even a special winter butane
I copped my first Zippo from Amazon today and it came without the orange sticker on the back? did i get scammed? the lighter is solid and works brilliantly.
I’m guessing u don’t live in North America. Only we get orange stickers because our laws require it
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors yes, i'm in india. Then i've got the real deal, thanks for the reply man!
@@chadbhaiyya5167 yup your good to go. Anytime buds
I didn't get one on either of mine either and one I bought from zippo themselves but I checked and both are genuine
@@stevewonder8766 Steve knows !
And if you keep your Zippo butane in your coat pocket zipped up it will light in 20° and sometime in 12° weather if it's on the inside coat pocket
Yeah that’s annoying though. Opening your coat every time to grab a lighter
@Zippofanatic77outdoors but less annoying than a lighter that is malfunctioning
that's why I use butane inserts only in the summer.
Yeah they are Great for those temps lol. Fluid all winter !
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors Agree I trust fluid much more in winter.
@@gearup9503 yeah so reliable and care free
I don't smoke anything and use a butane torch lightet for utility. Unfortunately pocket style butane torches are getting harder to find and so many of them are sketchy junk. Even Ronson has fallen from grace. Zippo it is.
Ive been using the same two zippo single torch butane inserts since they’re first release in 2020. They are still running strong no issues. Edc everyday of the week
Yellow flame does better in the cold
Yeah the torch needs to many perfect conditions to function properly
I've gone back to the petrol one. More reliable and less fuss.
That a boy ! I always prefer fluid. But the yellow flame zippo insert is boss
Mine spewed out first charge
Which one ?
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors the zippo dual flame
@@real530ismdid u get it working or what up
I never saw a Use for a Butane insert. The original Fluid Design Has worked for 90 Years. Works every time No matter what the Temperature.
Yup I agree Len !! Only insert I leave the house with. Gold plated pipe insert running premium brother !
Cigar people like butane because to does ruin the taste of a cigar
If your smokin a 15 dollar stick you wanna get all of the natural flavors of the cigar without the zippo fluid changing the taste
@@privatedankgaming353I just rethought My Position & Got one. Thanks!
They do work every time until they run out of fuel. I don’t hate the old zippos, but I hate how often mine runs out.
As a cannabis enthusiast butane is supreme. Kerosene or naphtha will ruin the taste of a good bud butane dose not.
Cool 😎
I threw mine out the window. the butane insert made in China that I bought didn't fit perfectly in the container, it was smaller. After a few days of use it started not turning on the first time, I had to try at least 5 times. Of course it didn't depend on whether or not it was charged and I used good butane which I use in other lighters which have no problem at all. I didn't want to try the warranty and replacement, it's just not what I want. A nice throw of about 60 meters seemed to me a good conclusion.
Lol had a few of those also. I like my zippo yellow flame the best. All I use now
If you bleed it before using it, you shouldn't have an air problem
Try not to drop your lighter
-20 -40 wow does not apply to me
Sounds like you are very clumsy I don't drop my lighter very often
Lol yeah I guess so then. Mr Droppy
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Why do U keep posting first when your clearly not the first person to comment haha
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors because I can 😎
@@swedenharmonica2076 hahah true
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors 😋👌🏻😅
Its got nothing to do with the button or the flint wheel bra my hands are literally callissed to the maximum from trying to light this fn thing. Its the chinese quality
Hahaha. All mine work fine
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors you wouldnt know if they work or not you probably dont even smoke
@@CashMoneyKennels lmao ok buds. I smoke more than U and been smoking longer than u I’m 40 years old been smoking since I was 12 lol.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors have you got a IM corona old boy lighter ?
@@CashMoneyKennels no I do not. But they are pretty cool I have to admit. Bigger tank and some even have a carbon filter. They have some good designs and options.
Doesn't a butane insert make the Zippo lighter? 🤔 It's a gas that's lighter than air and causes balloons to soar. 🤨
(/jk 😂)
The butane insert destroys the entire purpose of the zippo brand
It’s not a zippo anymore
Except for the zippo blu
i live in the solution not in the problem use a match wheelchair larry Merry Christmas