Guest Characters are here to stay in Street Fighter 6
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- So Guest Characters in Fighting Games are always a big deal, but with the announcement of Terry Bogard and Mai Shiranui for Street Fighter 6, it seems like all the bigger deal yet. SF is not a franchise known to do guest characters, and now they are kicking that door down. An interview with VG247 sorta spurred the idea for this video with some of the questions asked, and I wanted to add my own 2 cents to it as well so dig in!
Check out the interview here: www.vg247.com/street-fighter-...
What will Mai and Terry play like in SF6 anyways? View the vids here
Terry: • What will Terry Bogard...
Mai: • What will Mai Shiranui...
0:00 - Guest characters are a big deal!
1:20 - Why Guests? (interview)
2:02 - Guests = less other characters? (interview)
3:14 - What about Sub Zero? (interview)
4:53 - World Tour and Guests (interview)
6:01 - Guests are great!
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So this video in part was inspired by a recent interview of the SF6 developers by VG247(link in vid description). The SF6 devs have some interesting things to say about guest characters as a whole with Terry and Mai showing up in SF6, and I kinda wanna add my own 2 cents to the whole Guest Character discussion, since as a NRS fan ive been in the guest character wars a lot longer than most of yall lol. Anyways vid the vid a watch, like if ya liked it and enjoy!
Mk characters being Sub zero and Shao Khan would fuck my pockets up roof but it's worth it!
the nishiyama extended universe
I want to see a Marvel character. I'm surprised no one has said that yet?
YOOO IF WE GET SCORPION, SUB-ZERO, SHAO KAHN & SHANG TSUNG IN SF6 THIS WILL HONESTLY BE MY NEW ALL TIME FAV SF GAME! :)
@@Cyanic_868 disney threw capcom under the bus during the MVCI debacle
I know we will never get another Darkstalkers. But Felicia and Morrigan in this RE engine. Jeeze. I’ll bite.
Catgirl and succubus princess need to guest star in every game they can. They're ALWAYS a welcome presence.
I want Sodom in the Bishamon armor or atleast a Honda costume based off Bishamon.
We already have Juri. No more gooner catering allowed.
I’m still praying for a new Darkstalkers
@@DengusK We can delete Juri. Its fine.
i will eat a raw egg, shell and all, if they ever put a goddamn Mortal Kombat character in Street Fighter
The only MK character I would tolerate in Street Fighter is Mileena. If they added anyone else I'd be fucking done.
@@punkypony5165 bruh really?
you aint even tryna hide it lmao
everyone gets hard to something ig
me personally i think liu kang would make the most sense as hes kinda similar to a shoto?
for his fireball it would be front quarter circle and punch just like a hadoken
front quarter circle kick would be his flying dragon kick
and then back quarter circle kick would be bicycle kicks
and then his crouching heavy punch would be the classic mk uppercut
they could also make a lot of target combos based on his strings in mk1
@@punkypony5165 I love her and even her I would be mad at being in the game
Weirdo@@punkypony5165
@@punkypony5165 the creepy mouth lady that fights with stabby stabby knives is more okay than ice ninja?
I feel like guest characters in SF6 would be a lot less controversial if the fighter passes weren't only four characters. While I can't deny that the fighters on the fighter passes have been incredibly high quality, only having TWO street fighter characters added to the game for a whole year is a pretty damn tough pill to swallow. I personally wanted Q, Hakan, Makoto, Menat or Gen in the game and while I'm down to wait a year because this crossover thing is a pretty neat novelty, I can't say I'd be wild about a 2025 Street Fighter pass that was only two Street Fighter characters, I probably wouldn't buy that.
Harada and Ono were thinking about an SF guest for the next Tekken Game in 2013, a year after SFxTekken release and 2 full years before Tekken 7's console release.
Obviously, time passed between the idea was born, the actual pitch to both Capcom and Namco plus the licensing deals, and then the actual development of the character.
Point being those kinds of deals take their sweet time.
Even if Nakayama called Ed Boon tomorrow and both Capcom and WB went along with the idea, there is no way Sub Zero he would be out in 2025.
3:23. Im sorry, but I can't help but laugh at the mental image that Mai and Terry are just at the gates of every game all the time trying to get in 😭😭😭
@@SylvainJoseGautier- HEY! C’mon C’mon… in.
Heihachi would be the ultimate guest character. With the story between him and Akuma in tekken, he would actually be a Canon guest character.
I hate the Remy hate, as if they'd rip him straight out of SF3 and change nothing. They've shown they can make luke-warm characters awesome, like Ed, and there's no way he'd be less interesting than luke-warm Luke. I'd prefer innovation of past characters rather than easy hype picks.
Unless they add Asura, in which case, then and only then, screw innovation.
I hate the fact that I’m not in the same mind as most people here in the comments.
I’m absolutely not thrilled about this whole guest character thing, and it sucks to see your beloved franchise heading in a direction you don’t like.
I absolutely agree that guest characters makes people talk and creates interest, which is an amazing thing. However it will come at the cost of the roster size in terms of street fighter characters, which does upset a notable amount of fans including me.
In the end, you can’t make everyone happy,
But if it’s what’s best for the game and franchise, I think it’s great, even is I would prefer street fighter without too many guest characters.
🤝🏻
I feel the same. I thought SF6 was going to be a Street Fighter game, not a crossover game.
Same. I want to see Street Fighter characters revamped with modern Capcom's design
Look at Ed, in SFV no one liked his gameplay and even less people liked his appearance as a generic ass Psycho user. Now in 6 even though he is far from the best character but he is very popular due to how well designed he is.
I'm way more hyped for what can they do with Elena or potentially Vega (another character who was badly designed in V) than Terry or Mai's design which has to be somewhat faithful to KoF (not saying it's bad per se)
@TheObidane I could be wrong but I would expect most SF fans feel the same way.
I'm totally with you, if I wanted MK or tekken characters I'd just go and play those games, I do not care for MK at all so I don't want them in SF
The only salt I have about guest characters are 2 slots taken up because percentage wise that is 50% of a battle pass.
There's over 15 very popular SF characters still waiting to get in the party.
Think the new FGC wave for DLC is on character per season
SF6 would be the perfect place to add all previous SF characters. It's a lovely platform for that!
Imagine being the character that sat out its own franchise for 3 decades and you see fucking sub-zero get in the last installement.
@@FranckyFox2468 I got nothing against Sub-Zero in SF, but it'd be a missed opportunity not to add all characters of the previous games.
That's not realistic or reasonable. While on paper having a SF "Dream Match" with every character from the franchise returning is cool, it's just not possible, atleast with SF6. We now know that 4 characters per year will be the standard which is reasonable considering the amount of work that goes into each of them, at that rate to get every character Capcom would have to support and add DLC to this game for the next 15 years and that's without any new characters or guests. Considering that the average lifespan of an SF game is 6 years it's not happening.
We might as well get some Tekken guest characters…. One of the mishimas and Nina probably in the future ?😭😭😭
If we really wanna garner interest, we should pick Anna instead of that old has been Nina 🤔
@@rooflemonger lmao I’d love to see Anna vs Chun or something like that to branch off from her sister bc all her storylines have always had something to do with her sister
You know damn well we'd only be getting Jin and King or Kaz and King
Reina, since she's new.
@@sonof7yoshis probably but I was just going by the most popular male and female from said series it looks like capcom seems to be going by
I'm fine with guest characters but if they're only going to do four characters in a season pass they should definitely keep it to one guest.
If you can find it, Harada had a great tweet in response to a fan asking for Bloody Roar guest characters that went into the behind the scenes process of adding guest characters. It was really insightful.
Wow, a mention of Bloody Roar got a response?
@@sigurdtheblueyeah, even Harada had said he was getting so many requests for a Bloody Roar rep. But TL;DR, there needs to be beneficial to both parties(the company making the game, and the company lending the character) as opposed to being “cool”
@@EldritchPanda1777so in other words they're more complex adverts 😂
@@EldritchPanda1777 It was such an educational thread, went into the "hows" and "whys" of picking guest spots in these games!
I just want Sagat. I know he's not too popular, but i trained my ass off with that character in SF5 so Id like to continue, but for now Lily and Marisa are great for me. Still I would love to see him have a conclusion to his redemption arch in story.
Yeah his arc has actually been interesting! I would like to see more.
Tiger Tiger Tiger
Me too man, me too
+1
I seem to be in the minority that thinks this isn't great. Guest characters are cool, but not when there are only 4 characters in the season pass. If it were 4 SF characters PLUS 2 guests, I'd be all for it.
You're totally right when saying that MK guests in SF would break the internet. I am biased when saying this but I would be down for that 100%, same with the idea of each character pass' guests being themed after certain games. Sub-Zero vs. Ryu alone is a dream matchup as it is, but Sub-Zero vs. Terry/Mai in SF6 would be just as crazy to see.
Everyone doesn't win though. People want their OGs back
no matter what you do, people will always cry for a character that isn't already in the game. There is no winning on that front so why even try. You add makoto, people cry no sean. You add sean, where is viper? Add viper, where's sakura, etc etc. You will never, ever make everyone happy so don't try, do whats best for the actual game.
@@rooflemonger True but keeping the players happy keeps the game alive. I predict the salt of not having some OGs after enough time will take it's toll.
On the flip side the people loving guest characters will be eating good, and those who don't care in particular are still winning.
I think Mai and Terry are cool, but for S2 I'd do 3 SF 1 Guest
@@rooflemongerStill this isn’t the argument a large majority of actual street fighter players audibly sighed that TWO guest characters took season pass slots over their own universe. It genuinely started the discussion “I play street fighter to play street fighter”. This whole guest character project will only work if there’s obvious compensations such as a guarantee larger roster (like Tekken) or adding more slots to the season pass. This whole project is just jangling keys in front of people who probably (and I genuinely mean this some a large majority just said that’s cool and moved on) won’t even start up the car. SFV despite its woes still managed to remain experimental, SF6 is borderline selling out. I respect it the reasoning behind it but come on, Capcom is doing SNK much more of a favor here lol. VSav characters deserved a return MUCH more than any other cross over. Won’t even get started with Rival Schools, EX, etc.
Guys at least instead of Makoto and dudley, we have badass amazing and super cool characters like "ed" and "luke"!!!
In case of SF6 the guest character thing collides with fact that they confirmed that 4 characters a season is now the standard for them, I feel like May would have felt much more like a great bonus if it would have been 5 characters. Guest characters + less characters per season is what makes it sting more.
If you're 30+ (maybe younger too) and you like fighting games, the thought of MK vs SF certainly crossed your mind at some point. I clicked on this video faster than the speed of light LMAO
Based on your snk interview, I'm guessing SF will have a KoF tie in and maybe a guest character in KoF and CtoW? Maybe a cool new world tour area where you fight random people with names and moves similar to KoF characters?
well it'd be nice but who knows. I got nothing past what they told me in that interview. Its certainly time everyone else paid SNK back though. They've been using their characters and SNK got nothing in return, time to cash in the debts.
Who knows the scale, but World Tour will probably get a South Town location/stage for Terry and Mai
@@rooflemonger tbf they don't have to. coz snk still made money via licensing fees.
Crossovers ruin the stylistic integrity of a game imo. Look at fortnite.
I think terry and mai are okay because if you told a non sf fan they were from sf they would believe you, but i dont want kratos or mk characters.
this
also we have guest charachters in almost EVERY fg nowadays, fingers crossed no sub-zero in sf
Only if they overdo it
What about darkstalker characters?
@@bbyjohn11 I feel like the visual style wouldn't do them justice.
I completely agree, fatal fury and kof characters are welcome but anything else like tekken and mk or god forbid non-fighting game characters would just completely ruin it for me
I got the game because of Mai so they know what they doing
Too many false equivalencies in this video. Hakan has nowhere near the same level of demand as the likes of Makoto or C. Viper. And it's kind of pointless to talk about which DLC would make more money without any hard numbers or official data at all to back it up.
Also sales aren't everything. They'll turn this game into Fortnite because that's what makes money but what will be left would be a shell of what it was.
Considering Capcom and Namco made it canon that Akuma knows the Mishima's, I fully expect to see Heihachi and Kazuya at the least in the future. XD
I would love to see Kage Maru and Akira yuki as guest dlc for 6, the way they would approach them would definitely be interesting!
If kage(or sarah) were a thing they'd need a way to instantly die by accident to replicate self-ringouts
@@rooflemongerngl bro that would be lame as hell
I get the appeal of guest characters, I got a few I’d love to see, imagine if they somehow got a Marvel character in Street fighter? But it’s also hard not to feel bad for fans who have been waiting a long time for their favorite to return, especially if they weren’t in SFV. If you love Makoto and haven’t played her or anything close to her style in over 10 years, seeing Sub Zero or Kazuya, or Sol Badguy, in next years pass over her probably won’t make you feel better.
But not getting these characters wouldn't make Makto any more likely to be released.
But those fans will feel that way for ANY character that gets added that isn't the one they want. Guest characters are just an easy scapegoat.
I’ve been playing SF since 1992 and I’m ecstatic at the prospect of even more guest characters.
I agree that “guests generate interest,” but I don’t think that does much for the game overall. Everybody who cares about Terry or Mai probably already bought SF6. I don’t know if I’d say Terry and Mai “sold season 3.” I bought season 2 for Bison, and a lot of others probably would have bought season 2 regardless of who was in it.
Just speaking for myself here, but Terry in SF6 just lessens my desire to buy CotW. If I can already play him in 6, and the REV system is basically another Drive system, idk why I’d bother. Especially with so many fighting games coming out.
def not the case, mai and terry will sell more copies by existing than any already existing SF character. There's a reason why MK does this year over year time after time. It works.
True, the DLC guest characters sell. But if you look at MK fans reception of the latest DLC and the leaks for the current one. There’s many that think 50% DLC guest characters is too much.
You will attract many DC fans and fans of those series with homelander, omni man and peacemaker, but alienate your own fanbase. Honestly there’s pros and cons to this guest character, it really comes down to balancing it so SF doesn’t turn into the next smash brothers.
If Sub Zero or Scorpion make it in, then this is automatically the mosf insane fighting game crossover of all time
Like not only would SF and SNK be in, but the fact that MK crossed over into ANYTHING, especially a Japanese game, is flatout unprecedented
Sounds great! I like Scorpion, but if I had to choose between the two, I would vote for Sub-Zero. If they choose Scorpion, Birdie will kinda redundant and likely to have a smaller chance of being included which seems unfair to those who use him.
Green ranger, Scorpion, Fulgore, etc would be so hype in the SF engine world.
@@pppp-by1bq If only you knew. I have a friend who is actually willing to buy SF6 if a MK character gets in. People want that, actually.
@@sylvania6974exactly
The thing about Guest characters in SF can be a double edge sword, remember Akuma in Tekken 7 that was broken in all T7 lifespan, imagine now Terry&Mai be broken and unbalanced, we hope Capcom dont make Bandai mistake.
Just don't give them short hops/running/max mode and we're fine.
I feel there would be a lot of conflict if street fighters just had guest characters for all season cause there are so many fan favorites that are not in street fighter, so they can't just do that.
Mortal Kombat characters in a game that is not about gore or brutalities just don't work. There are so many conflicts with having Mortal Kombat characters. Like hiw mk is banned in Japan, or how would mk characters fit in a game like this. Personally, I wouldn't want to see mk characters in this game.
I like the idea of guest characters, but Terry and Mai were literally just for fun, and videos like this make it seem guest characters are mandatory which is why I was kind of worried in sf6 got guest characters. Harada, for example, gets bombarded with guest character requests like every day, like its mandatory.
Guest characters should just be for fun, but not mandatory. You also have to be careful about which characters you choose to put in your game. I'm pretty sure the devs have to ask themselves like do these character fit the ratings of our game, and a bunch of other stuff. So yeah, guest characters should not be mandatory and mk characters should stay in mk.
The only way I could see Mk characters in a sf game is if Mortal Kombat tries to increase the number of people playing their game worldwide, by tuning out blood and fatalities, but that probably might not happen since that would generally take away what makes Mortal kombat different from the rest of these fighting games. Not to mention mk1 is in a bad spot so there would probably be a lot of backlash including an mk character in sf6.
It be weird to see an mk character with proper fighting animations, I'm so used to the Janky moves 😂😂
Underated comment
Not moving like a stiff action figure with limited range of motion might send me into shock.
Even the dash animations are weird
Well SF6's animations aren't that great. They're still way better than MK's though.
@@Oscar97o SF6 animations are the best I've ever seen in a 3D fighter, lol
Oh, whaddya know. Same hater I disagreed with in my other comment. L take
Im hoping that SNK & CAPCOM have a shared Street Fighter and KOF/Fatel Fury universe and they share characters with each other.
I hope the next Guest is Jin Kazama
With level 2 devil jin install
I wish that all the multi media slop was kept in SFV but I got Elena in a very fun game with a sane balancing team so I really cant compalin
Guest characters will always feel gimmicky to me...
Jack of all trades master of none
I just come here for Helloo and Welcome
Yo, You know what would be cool? Asura from Asura's Wrath as a guest character in SF6! That would be wild!
YES BRING ASURA BACK!
Fun fact capcom thought about putting Asura in SFIV but the game wasn’t popular enough so we got a skin for ryu instead
The pandora's box is open now. Prepare for every future season pass to be 50% SF characters, 50% guest characters (aka NRS treatment)
Yeah and then the series will fall to western slop like MK, no need to actually be good when you have wacky guest characters to carry sales
I’m bookmarking this post because I know it’s gonna age HORRIBLY because I remember this same talk when the MvC and cvs series started and look where we are now.
Calling Necro unrealistic when he destroy Dhalsim in the official polls TWICE now is uh... certainly a statement. Its hard to cheer for guest characters when we know we will only get 4 a year and characters that had to sit out their own franchises for 3 decades will have to wait much longer because of "brand recognition" because they dont wanna bother do a fantastic reinvention or a comeback like Deejay or ABA did? Not to mention it will make the existence of SF6 in future decades a fucking legal nightmare the more of that kinda egg they put in the same basket.
Necro 100% should have been base roster and Dhalsim should have been benched.
@@punkypony5165 The better option would be having them both in the same game cause its honestly a crime it hasn't happened yet. We've had ibuki face rolento, hugo face zangief, dudley face 'rog but we never had Necro meet Dhalsim like come the fuck on. To add to the injury they play NOTHING alike despite people insisting the similarity is what prevents em from co-existing.
Couldn't agree more with that statement. SF shouldn't suddenly switch tunes to brand recognition when they have so many interesting characters in the bank. It's honestly saddening to see the amount of "fans" clawing for the game to turn into fighting game Fortnite
the casual fan has no idea necro even exists, but they remember dhalsim as funny stretchy man and thus is worth is infinitely more than necros
@@rooflemonger In a counter argument, i feel like Necro and Effie would definitly be more appealing to a modern younger audiance ironically enough. Especially with their aesthetic and general themes in reflection to characters i see trending to younger folks nowadays. I've even had some mutuals compare Effie to some modern vtubers and a lot of people around me grew interested in the character once i shared more about his lore that wasn't exactly explored or had much space for in older arcade games and most of it came from official but outside material.
To quote Marty McFly, i think the people at the time were not ready for such a duo of characters but generations down the line would appreciate them much more once they have their time to shine. Which i still firmly believe regardless of whether necro or effie makes it, should be given a shot as their story kinda ended on a cliffhanger and SF6 is set right after that in the timeline.
There is also a common sentiment i saw around that perhaps Rudra was going to be Dhalsim's successor in a similar vain to lily and kimberly but they wanted to get all the world warrior togheter... despite the fact they dont fucking know what to do with Dhalsim narratively anymore in contrast to his apprenctice being much more interesting and fresh. But i think we are past the point where that would be plausible by now.
Oh also i wanna add, its not because people recognize dhalsim that they'd play him. Most people i talk to who actually played both all agreed they prefered playing Necro so...
I can really see Reina being in SF6. She seems to have a... "Juri vibe" with her fans and the amount of them.
They did wavedash step/stance in SFxT wity the Mishima's and I think it would be really cool
Any Tekken character getting into SF6 would be an insane buff to them simply by being able to complete a ranked set without someone dipping out
Oh... does Reina not wear shoes, or are you saying that she just has a lot of fans?
@@SylvainJoseGautier- 💀
@@Dasaltwarrior Whoever the character is who gets in SF6, needs to be absurdly overtuned and break the game. So SF players get a taste of what Akuma did to T7 🤣
@@SylvainJoseGautier- She's not a street fighter character, and by that I mean she wears shoes.
"everybody wins" with guest characters except people who actually play
I really hope that sf6 doesn't get watered down with loads of guests and ruined like Mk.
MK is ruined because they monetized the game too hard
@@cryptocaesar8972Facts
Yeah guests definitely destroyed that franchise
Mk 9 and MK 11 had very good characters from another lore's , MK 1 looks like a joke.
Imma be honest, all this guest character talk is making me lose interest in the game
If they do add sub zero as a guest character I wonder how would they do world tour because would that mean tekken,street fighter, and mortal kombat is in the Same universe technically
MK1 introduce multiverse as part of their canon lore now, therefore if any guest from MK appear in SF, that mean that universe is just one of the many infinite multiverse within MK. After all, DC multiverse is also canon to MK
@@shawziiz5031Lore and your canon bullshit do not matter in fighting games dude
@@TheInfamousDope It is matter. That why MK and Tekken has the biggest sales. Is bullshit for bullshit people like you. I know for fact a lot of people love when fighting games has lore. Why do you think people got mad when Capcom describe their character as "function" in MVC before? People love fighting games character more than just their gameplay.
@@shawziiz5031 There is no constistency nor continuity between games dude. Stop being ignorant. The lore in Street Fighter and Tekken have been established in the 90s and never evolved since. The absurd lore in MK is never the same from one game to another and so on… The devs know most people will be happy if their fav characters are in the next game so that’s why they don’t bother creating good story mode anymore and prefer to simply reboot to always keep the plot easy to understand.
New plot lines are just excuses to add new characters or bring fan favourites back from the dead but the main story NEVER EVOLVES. You casuals are just to d**b to see that.
What makes a good fighting game are character designs and mechanics. Never heard nobody says « I bought this game for the story mode »
Guest characters can be pretty cool, but there is a point where you can go too far with them, and I hope we don't reach it. I'd still rather see it restricted to characters who can fit in street fighter, for one. MK characters I think could fit, but for example, it'd be really weird to throw in Granblue characters.
DarkStalkers need a re-launch😢
The only non fighting game characters that would be cool would be Baki and Yujiro
I'm the guy that wants Necro instead of Scorpion.
There’s only so many characters per season. Taking up 2 spots for guest characters is to much
If Sub-Zero truly ever becomes a thing in SF6, the first person to say they'd rather have some nobody third strike character over sub-zero will be cast into the phantom zone.
the moment they add any mk character is the moment sf finally becomes western slop and i'll dip
Suz-Zero, Makoto, Scorpion, and Dudley. That's my S3 list.
@@akl2512 good, the weak need to be purged
@@IcyTorment Sus-zero?
@@akl2512you people are insufferable, did you know that? I think you should know that.
Every single time any non-American company does something you don’t like, be it they feature a character that you don’t like, they start talking about progressive themes, or, god forbid, have one of their female characters wear actual pants for once, you people are always like „Oh, the east has fallen! The west/‚wokeness‘ has ruined my favorite plaything yet again!“
I mean, Jesus Christ! Look inwards for once! There is no grand conspiracy at play here and you know it! You’re just too much of a weasely little coward to actually admit that!
I will disappoint if they add sub zero but no Dudley or makoto, even sagat😢
I am a little mixed on the inclusion of Guest characters in SF6. On one hand, I am really looking forward to Terry and Mai and seeing how the SF team adapt them to the SF6 mechanics. But... on the other hand I think it is a bit early in the life of SF6, like if this was season 3 or season 4 I would be way more hyped. I feel like there are just too many fan favourites that could and maybe should be added before guest characters.
With the current season pass, I think I would be more happy to have entirely SF characters(including a new one) in season 3, and then more guests in season 4 and then alternate it that way.
how to incorporate guest characters in world tour ( or how i hope they do it): a new arcade opens up in the city, called : the interdimensional arcade or something. each guest character or franchise gets their own cabinet, when u play/interact with them u get pulled into their world/game. where u can meet the mentors.
I hate tone dissonance, so I usually hate guest characters, the reason why I never bother to buy a mk title is cause it is fill with crap movie characters that have nothing to do with the mk universe. Terry and Mai.... may work, they are from a almost twin franchise. But I am not happy about this, nor will be. I know I am not buying this characters.
Basically how I feel. I don't like how sometimes guest characters can ruin the "immersion" of a fighting game.
@azdart Fully agree, at least Terry and Mai fit the aesthetic of SF.
I'd rather there be no more guest characters but if they absolutely must have them they need to fit into Street Fighter seamlessly.
If any characters made it in that didn't fit, I'd be genuinely disgusted, even if I like the character in their respective game.
If they want crossovers make another crossover game.
@@punkypony5165 You guys have irrational fears. The first crossover content ever in sf and its another fighting game that Capcom has already crossover with and was made by the same creator as sf, it doesnt mean were getting Negan in SF.
I'm probably like 1 of 10 people who wants to know what the "lore" implications of Terry and Mai being in SF 6 because of how much of an emphasis there is about Story in World Tour - maybe a flight to a new hub of Southtown?
I can do without any more guest characters outside of SNK features for SF6. The story and format is beautiful and satisfying bc of its sticking to the lore…the more guests you put in without any logical reasoning & solely as cash grab, the more that uniqueness is broken and less interesting to enjoy.
To note: I know of other fighting games & can care less about them. I only play Street Fighter and want as many SF characters in 6 as possible.
yeah im fine with terry because he looks like he could be in metro city, mai is a bit weird but still works. sub zero kazuya or even reina would look janky and out of place in metro city
The problem is that it means more of the multiverse trope which I'm kind of sick of at this point.
Plus they usually have to ignore a characters contribution to the story like with Akuma.
At least Terry and Mai fit in with Street Fighters urban combat style.
I'm hoping for something more interesting than, 'and suddenly a portal appeared' to bring them into the cast.
As far as future guests go, I'm thinking that Capcom will start with bringing back as many of their past crossover partners as possible (Namely Tekken & Marvel). Not sure what they'll do after that besides pulling from other fighting games, but I wouldn't be surprised if they dial it back to 1 guest per season rather than 2 (with Year 2 being the exception since Street Fighter & Fatal Fury are like next-door neighbors).
Really should be either more characters a season or just 1 guest if this is a repeating thing. I am excited for the remaining characters this season but at least story wise wouldn’t it make sense to bring the actual new generation that we started with in sf3 adding to Luke, Lilly, AKI, Marisa and the rest of newer/younger characters
I was most looking forward to brand new street fighter characters like aki. Always accepting Sakura back too.
In general there’s no way to deny guests sell but I really want to see the sales on this season pass. I do not believe Terry and Mai sold more passes than Akuma alone. If they’d have put something dumb like Cloud or Tlou Joel in the game then yes but I really don’t have this belief that T&M are pulling in a new audience.
Ya Terry and Mai really do not have the same pull especially cuz we've gotten many crossovers with SNK before.
Like the trailer isn't even viewed more than Ed's gameplay reveal, Ed.
As someone who made the move from MK to SF, Scorpion and Sub Zero would go crazy in SF6🔥
I really hate guest characters, they take up slots and they won't appear again so giving a shit for them would be useless. And yes, I agree this is a can of worms, an mk9 getting delisted situation may happen. Also, this won't reach new players into fighting games, it's more like gonna cannibalise other playerbases more than anything.
Street Fighter have canonically met Terry & co. before so it makes sense they might meet again
Hakan's pretty neat; I think they should have a few "weird" characters
As long as it don't get too goofy like MK and Tekken 7, SNK and CAPCOM is far as we'll let it go without a fight, the core fans still haven't gotten a lot of the Capcom favorites. Mai and Terry were great picks
If you're going to put Sub Zero in, why not Ronald McDonald? "Oh you like hamburgers, why not try our game, it has em too!"
Make some cool new characters that fit and bring back Makoto and Sagat. This ain't it.
donald is lit in mugen tho 👀👀
I'm really not a fan of guest characters in Street Fighter. One of the many reasons I love Street Fighter is that it is a self contained universe with its own characters. I feel like so many games and movies feel the need to have crossovers and multiverses and I just want a pure game with its own characters and world.
The thing is Makoto and C Viper are extremely expected as opposed to Hakan. Along with SF6 4 character season passes? Financial decisions whatever, world conversation sure, but completely ignoring an already enriched universe blows my mind. I guess I’m pro-universe/anti guests characters. Two guests in one pass?
I hâte guests, even more so when they have a game on their own on the market. If there was ni ff cotw coming i'd be okish with ff guests but now they are in two games. That's two wasted spots same if chun and ryu are in ff instead of Kevin....
I don’t care for guest characters in any game that isn’t a full on crossover fighter or smash type. I’d always prefer more characters from that game in my game but that’s clearly not how the industry or majority feel so I’ll just deal with it. Maybe Season 3 will have characters I want so see you next year. People always pull the oh well guest character is better than (insert worst character in the franchise) argument but that completely ignores all the good characters left out. If you want to use MK1 as a example there are zero special forces or black dragon characters in the game but hey 4 more guest characters I guess. 2 street fighter characters a year just feels awful to me.
SNK characters fit at least, that's the only reason I'm fine with two of them for a year of DLC.
All these other suggestions tho? Like 6 really brought me back to SF and it's characters and I don't want it to just turn to a platform like MK did.
They just need to be smart with the guest characters and at least have ones that somewhat fit.
2B for Street fighter? Let's put her in every fighting game franchise, lol. Seriously though, I'd love for a Darkstalkers character.
Only if she gets a skirtless option, or a special move that causes Self Destruct and she remains that way for the rest of the match.
Skirtless 2B is the only real 2B
I like guest characters in fighting games when they're done well, but there are a number of things that do turn me off to the concept.
Putting guests in the base roster is a no-no for me, as it does actively inhibit a game's ability to sell itself and its world/characters. I know DLC didn't exist during its heyday, but basing front-end sales on guests is one of the things that killed Soul Calibur, especially when the guests were duds like in Soul Calibur IV. Keep guests to DLC so that the player base can either buy or ignore them as they so choose.
Crossovers should have some sort of root connection with what they're crossing over with. It was great that Hellboy and the Ninja Turtles were in Injustice 2 because those characters and the DC heroes are all comic book characters. Similarly, fighting games should cross over with other fighting game characters, which is one of the reasons why I think Terry and Mai in Street Fighter works so well. As a child of the '90s, I'd be psyched to see Sub Zero (or Sonya Blade, Liu Kang or whomever from MK) in SF, too.
On the other hand, guests being out-of-sync with the game they're in tends to take me out of it. I don't understand why characters like Omni-Man, Homelander, Alien, Predator, Spawn, etc. are all crossing over with Mortal Kombat (aside from crass, cross-promotional marketing concerns, that is). While it can be pretty fun playing with some of these toys, that's what it feels like: mashing action figures together instead of celebrating a shared medium or history. It just seems weird and incongruous, but, per my point above, at least they were DLC so they could be ignored if people wanted.
At the end of the day, I'm still a huge proponent of guest characters and understand that, at the end of the day, that they're playable marketing material: I just don't like it when that's all there is to it.
I've had this argument with a lot of people in the MK community before. There's 4 acceptable guest characters in the entire series right now.
Freddy
Jason
Predator
Spawn
The rest are just forced and awful. Those 4 at least somewhat fit into the games aesthetic and world despite being from other properties.
I disagree, not every game needs to have guest characters and i dont want SF to become the next Smash Bros.
Smash is the best game of all time, Ryu in smash is all I play
@@NotExactView Not everyone shares the same statement as you, there are plenty of people who doesnt like games like Smash at all.
@@NotExactView Smash is a party game not a fighting game.
@@punkypony5165I mean, they didn’t even say it was. They just said it was the best in their eyes.
And like. Come on. It’s a platform fighter, no way are we still having this argument in current year. “Party game” is such a nondescript term.
I agree, guests are fun but Street Fighter isn’t a crossover game. Something dedicated to crossing franchises over like Marvel versus Capcom is great, and a guest character here or there couldn’t hurt, but you also might taint the appeal of the original game if you oversaturate them.
Like, bad metaphor, but imagine a pizza joint near you starts selling wings. Hell yeah, wings and pizza go hard. Then they add chicken sandwiches, cool, guess it still fits the bill. Then they add burgers, which, hey, great! But there comes a point where you just think “Man, I came here for pizza”.
I think guest characters from other games become the wild cards. Brings unexpected factors back into the game which I think builds excitement more than a more traditional character would.
Guests are definitely neat, but with an (understandably) low rate of characters I absolutely agree with people that the guests should be spaced out. Half of only the second season being guests might be a bit of a bad omen for getting fan favorites back.
Street fighter has had guest chracters for YEARS. They retroactively made metro city and rival schools canon. However they are still guest characters.
I would personally love to see the Capcom version of an MK character. Scorpion, Sub Zero , liu Kang , or Sonya. That would be cool as fuck I think.
As long as I get Sakura in 6 I’ll be fine
I feel like Liu Kang and Kitana as guest in SF6 will be far better than Subby or Scorpy. We got Terry and Mai, so make sense to add Liu Kang and Kitana from MK. After all, Liu Kang and Kitana is always seen as Ryu and Chun-Li counterpart
Nah, Scorpion and Sub-Zero are far better choices.
@@scottchaison1001 Nah, Subby and Scorpy will be far better in Guilty Gear universe. Heck, Scorpy will be badass in Soul Calibur instead. SF is a bit more grounded. Human Liu Kang and Kitana, or Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade fit more naturally in SF. Liu Kang and Kitana can easily be Ryu and Chun-Li rival while Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade will be Guile and Cammy rival. Johnny Cage can also rival Ken and Terry.
>Liu Kang
No one cares about him.
>Kitana
We already got Mai we don't need Blue Mai as well.
for sure sub and scorp first... but if they had a full 4 character nrs season pass...😅...I'm sure grown adults wouldn't throw a temper tantrum about that
I’m not extremely tuned into the fgc, but are the KoF characters more geared for a Japanese audience?
I'm now praying for Ninjas vs Shotos
I bought SF 6 because of Terry and Mai.
Subzero would be the biggest waste of a slot
Use the forbidden door enough times it becomes less interesting. Id rather just make a whole game based on crossovers.
I came from Smash and one of the things that really disappointed me in Ultimate was that they just kept one-upping the third-party characters. I really hope that does not happen in this game because it might be enough for me to give up on the game.
I personally don't mind guest characters in fighting games unless the whole season of dlc characters is all guest characters, then I have a bit of an issue, but if Street Fighter sticks with this format of two guest characters and two Street Fighter characters then I'm okay with it.
i agree with nearly everything you said, but two guest character from the same series in the same season is too much when theres only four characters in a season. If it was 5, maybe that would be fine. But its not. half a year dedicated to characters from an entirely different game you may or may not have any interest in.
With the Bison Update there is a new tournament in World Tour. One of the fighters is a guy with the name Sai Kyo. He even has some of Dans move as far as I remember. Also there is a fake Sagat in one of the treasure chambers. Wild stuff.
There's probably only gonna be 12 more characters added to this game. Plz no more guest characters.
Imagine an X-Men character announced at EVO, people will faint.
who, Wolverine?
Disney holds those keys and isn't playing ball. Otherwise, just take Magneto, Logan, and Jean (maybe Storm) and take them to a new crossover, like ArcSys vs. Capcom
@@Ilyak1986we are getting marvel vs cap on classic collection are you asleep?
Don't give up on Hakkan, you are not alone! But yeah, having realistic expectations is good. Still, keep pushing it, it would be cool if he made it.
I pray there aren't more guests.
Hear me out, put King from Tekken in here so i can main him in SF6 along with Tekken 8
For the past month I've been joking about a Ninja Fighter 6 because before Mai showed up people were arguing that Kimberly took the (Bushin style) ninja slot from characters like Zeku, Guy, Maki, and even Ibuki. But bring on the ninja fighters. If being brought from a different franchise can make it happen, then bring it lmao
Hell, DOA has ninja...
As I Reina simp; I will now begin begging for a Tekken crossover.
Can we PLEASE get Sho from Breakers so we can do the Shoryuken joke?
Kotal Kahn in sf6 would be wild
I’d love it but I’d also be annoyed if Kotal makes it into SF6 but not MK1
I think guest characters would be easier for the diehards to accept if they were framed differently by the dev team.
So Capcom sets the expectation that each DLC season is 4 characters, well this season has 4 SF characters + 1 or 2 guests. Then it feels like everyone wins. (Note: hyped for Terry + Mai, roster really needs more cool fighters.)
I just fundamentally disagree with the argument that just because it sells it's good. You're sacrificing integrity for sales and once that door is open theres no closing it.
“This is about getting more people into fighting games” oh sure bro. Thank god we’re shining a light on smaller fighting game darlings like Mortal Kombat: A franchise that sells a billion copies every release yet mysteriously can’t seem to get many entrants at EVO for the first year of their latest mega successful game. Then again, Under Nights is very tough competition I can’t blame em.