This is bu far the most spoilery fandom I've seen. I have never been spoiled so much so far ahead of time. And so often. It's hard to forget spoilers when you come across the same spoiler weekly for months
I thought the AOT fanbase was the worst in that aspect,oh how wrong I was 💀 Even as a manga reader it’s still hard to not get spoiled from leaked chapters,this community is so stupid
@@vijaz5559i have no connections with AOT and JJK and has not watch them and yet I was ALSO spoiled to shit. It's difficult not to get spoiled on the internet when the algorithm is shit.
As a bingwatcher, I literally knew every death before I even started watching 2nd season. I even stopped using twitter just to avoid spoilers, but then I get randomly recommended on youtube a death scene 5 hours after it happened... On top of that when I was watching all the jjk s2 memes and clips after I caught up, people in the comments are just dropping casually manga spoilers this shit ain't funny man... geniuenly lowered my enjoyment of the series. I could tell you every major death that happened in the manga and I haven't touched that shit
I agree wholeheartedly when Gigguk said that JJK S2 has some of the coolest choreography in anime. Like, holy shit, the ways the environment and abilities were used have made me go "holy shit THIS is why I love anime fights", which is something I haven't felt in a long time
It's usually pure destruction in anime destroying the city but it was so shocking seeing cars, trains, fucking planes, and buildings being thrown around and used mid fight.
@@Phantom-bi8xg THIS. Usually in anime strength is only shown via destruction of surroundings, but what I like about JJK is that strength is shown in other ways as well. The scene where a fucking PLANE started falling out of the sky made me go "HOLY SHIT". Like, I've always wanted to see an anime that constantly emphasize on "how powerful we are!" actually AFFECT the civilians if their battles are supposedly that powerful, and JJK gave me that.
Shibuya arc is one of the best arcs there is in anime right now but I agree with the take that it came one season too early. If there was one more season of something else so the characters would get fleshed out even more it would have hit way harder. Nobaras death for example would hit a lot more if we had more time with her as a character. I'm sorry but when she died I was like "okay" and moved on. I didn't get enough time to get emotionally invested in her to feel something. I was sad for Yuji, but for her not really and that's not good
Yeah just finished and Can agree that this happen so fast but the action hits so hard. I hope they can flesh more next season with characters that we got and news who will come. I still prefer this then Demon Slayer
@@nikolakrstic8079 Yeah it's sad to say but I really didn't like the season 3 of demon Slayer aswell as season 1. Season 2 was pretty good but no where near as good as the fans hype it up
I'm looking at the tier list, and I'm so glad Apothecary diaries is in S tier, such a great show honestly, it's one of the things that keeps me sane in this stressful exam period.
If he thinks he got little time to get attached to characters before Gege axed them then he is truly not gonna feel anything for the next deaths. Shibuya was the last time where we lost characters that Gege took at least a little bit of time to get us attached to. The rest will be mostly “ok here is a character,he does this,this and this,and now he is dead” sometimes we don’t even get to see everything a character can do 💀
4:00 BRO the amount of spoiler thumbnails i saw from the JJK manga readers after and during the release of season 2 is crazy, after being spoiled on about 5 major plot points I have now made an executive decision to actively look away and not read any JJK thumbnails I see, or else risk being spoiled.
People who disagree with this take don't have taste buds. Shibuya was a sakugafest. but the famous french poet la fontaine did write of the difference between beauty and the mind, a leopard's pelt may be pretty but you will grow weary, something that tickles the mind will satisfy you in perpetuity. Hidden inventory>shibuya and it's not even close
Hidden Inventory/Premature Death arc is definitely the best arc from an efficiency standpoint of packing in a lot: character dynamics of Gojo and Geto, action, a few slice of life moments, character drama, and social ideology. It accomplished a lot with the little time it had. It's what got me more personally invested in JJK more than anything else.
@@raec5426 completely agree, also the moments and the story writing with toji and him shooting the girl next to geto and the reasons for why they were fighting had me so much more invested and the toji gojo fight was still the best fight of the season. I actually didn't really like the Shibuya arc cause it feels like their was so much wasted potential, sukuna mahoraga fight couldve been one of the best but the animation was unfinished and hard to follow, a lot of the fights felt not so meaningful and didnt have me invested and the fights felt dragged out to fill up screen time rather than moving the story along like an action sequence from a Hollywood movie where the camera is shaking for 10 minutes of fighting in which characters don't feel natural. Feels like they are just trying to do cool flashy attacks to put on a performance instead of real characters actually fighting practically to win, Mahito was the worst at this where his attacks just don't feel practical with the abilities he has and rather felt like it was blatantly meant to be cool, unique attacks to put on a performance for a show rather than how characters in a real world scenario so that the fight can be dragged out and look cool for the show. Toji Gojo on the other hand felt actually real, like im watching characters do what they would do in this world instead of 2 plot devices putting on a blatant performance for me to enjoy in the means of an action sequence. Their fight was much shorter, much more practical, yet it had me much more invested as it was more meaningful and in the midst of an actually interesting mini plot in the show and their fight is much more memorable. I'm sure in a couple months I won't remember all the intracacies of the fights from Shibuya but I will still remember every detail of Toji Gojo fight.
@@lostmycat5671 That fight had a lot of potential I agree, I just don't think they delivered. I was very hyped for when the fight started but I was watching it with my friends and none of us could really follow, it looked flashy and stuff but I can't just pretend like it's amazing when it didn't feel that way. If the animation was followable and there was a bit more foreshadowing for Mahoraga (personal opinion maybe, I don't like how all the explanation for how Mahoraga came to be happens so close to the fight, I like when these things are sprinkled in earlier and then its so much cooler when a moment like this happens cause you actually understand whats going on instantly instead of still working it out while they are fighting. They don't have to tell us about Mahoraga but explain how the dude's power works and hint at how his power went toe to toe with Sukuna in the past and that's why he's interested in him or just the height of his power in general is not fully unlocked or something than it would be so sick when the moment occurs and they only need to give a little explanation instead of an essay to make sense of whats going on.) then I think it would've been a top fight of the year.
(Disclaimer: This comment doesn't have spoilers.) Jujutsu Kaisen is one of those manga that I absolutely despise the fact that it got popular. Most of the people who spoil the manga for others don't even understand the story one bit. There is a really big number of fans. But only a small portion of them actually follow the manga along and comprehend it. For example, the *big spoiler* that's been circulating around is spread by salty fans not liking the way things unfolded. But if they actually paid attention for one second instead of making up their own head-cannon they would have realized it was an obvious writing choice. And the most important of all, this is a manga drawn and written by Gege Akutami. He can do whatever the fuck he wants in his own story. You don't get to decide how he writes a story.
@@rohitkamble3568 Wow, you're such a genius! I didn't think about that! 😐 (Edit: Context: Somebody replied with "If you don't want to get spoiled, don't follow JJK on social media." But they deleted the comment after I replied.)
What happened was pretty inevitable eitherway, what happened afterwards and it's interactions is the most bullshit writing I've ever seen in manga And perhaps the worst character assassination I've ever seen and a massive piss on the graves on 2 other characters lmao
Honestly sadly anime watcher too saying this story has no depth when they just look at the action scenes and do not read the subtitles or remember any of the important moments from season 1 it’s so frustrating that people don’t care. Heck even in this comment section someone said they don’t ever want to hear JJK and good character writing ever again.
Never seen an anime/manga fandom be so open with spoilers, surpassing AOT with ending. In 2023, the fandom shifted with good aspects (funny memes) and bad aspects (spoiling almost everything).
The convergence of the source material with the fandom and the studio news as they were releasing it was what made this so peak. For alot of fans, it was a chance to peek behind the curtain and see just how much creative effort it takes to make an episode. Many in the art world appreciate labors of love and tie art to the struggle of the artist. This season was the first time many got to experience a similar appreciation for the genre in real time. Not sure it'll happen again and honestly wouldn't want it to. They deserve better.
And that’s totally fair I but for some people it doesn’t like I love jjk don’t get me wrong but I can’t say I felt much of anything when nobara died cause I just didn’t know her that well
I like the foundation of the characters, just wish Gege did more with some of them before they get taken out the plot. lol What really got me invested in JJK more than anything else was the Hidden Inventory arc to explore Gojo and Geto's individual characters and the relationship they had to each other.
Idk about anyone else but I think not a single anime comes close to jjk when it comes to the no. of absolute lovable and cool characters , literally every character feels human and cooler until the next character is introduced and you are like yo this might be my new fav .
@@soultheconfusing9563 Sorta disagree, I think we got to know her well but I think its not really about that. I think it's more about she deserved more as a main 3.
it would have been better for shibuya to happen later but the truth is that gege didn't want that. he didn't even want the story set in a "high-school" or for the kyoto exchange event arc to happen at all. it was his editor that forced these changes. that editor got replaced after shibuya, and since then it's been break neck fights and deaths, which is the story he's trying to tell. a lot of people think that editors stifle creativity and ruin stories, but imo jjk is a prime example of how a good editor can make a good story better
That's kinda mind-boggling. I did think that s1 kinda took it's time for buildup and was a bit on the weaker side of things. . . but that made s2 all the more epic. I'm not sure if keeping that editor around post shibuya would've made for a well paced story, but i feel like everything after shibuya has either been too fast, or a bit on the tame/dull side here and there.
All the things jujutsu kaisen copied and ripped off from other animes Gojo = Kakashi Megumi = sasuke Nobara = Rukia Curses = Hollows Ai todo = Kenpachi ripoff Kenjaku = Aizen ripoff the way he plans stuff out Mahito = Orochimaru ripoff Sukuna = inner demon trope thats been done a million times before Maki zenin and Mai zenin = Is a copy of Soi fon and yoruchi storyline from bleach Mahito betraying junpei = A copy of Aizen betraying momo Panda = copy of komamura from bleach Yuji copyed ichigos goal and thats to save and help people Choso = Muramasa ripoff Jujutsu kaisen is not no masterpeice its the most shitty anime to exist it has nothing original about it.
I like how brutal and numerous the deaths were in this arc. Yes, characters were taken away too soon before they had a chance to meet their full potential, but that's the point. If more characters had made it out of that situation, it would feel like cheap plot armor and undercut the gravity of the event. A parallel example I can think of is Pein's Assault arc in Naruto which saw the entire Leaf Village get utterly obliterated with tons of major character deaths, but then Naruto does his Talk no Jutsu real good on Nagato and everyone who died gets revived. JJK does not cop out like that. The Shibuya Incident truly feels catastrophic both in terms of how it effects the characters and the world of JJK, and I respect Gege for the followthrough.
Yeah I’m not saying there should be less deaths but it’s just that some deaths don’t hit that much because it feels like they die just because to make you feel bad and you don’t because you don’t feel connected to the character that much. For example nobara, when she died I was just like……..”sad I guess”.
I agree. I also think Nobara dying early fits with what Yaga said to Yuji at the beginning of the series. Sorcerers usually die early and with regrets. Nobara is a great example of a sorcerer dying early and it's a reminder that NOBODY is safe in JJK regardless if it's still early or not. You also need to consider that Yuji has a hero complex. He wants to save everyone which is an unrealistic goal that will only cause him pain or more death in the long run. Her death serves as a lesson to Yuji that he can't save everyone. I respect Nobara though because she excepted her death without regrets in end which keeps her from turning into a vengeful cursed spirit. She choose to except her death which protects humanity and her comrades.
It’s one of if not the best new gen arcs. Seriously the best action I’ve ever seen in anime, great character writing in Yuji & Mahito’s dynamic which extends to Todo & Nanami, crazy reveals & plot points and a great culmination of every previous arc as well as tease of the next arcs and more. Comfortable 9.5/10 for me.
@@EcopiuMThat's because you don't understand the characters bro. Gojo, Sukuna, Mahito, Jogo, Nanami, Kenjaku, Geto, Toji, Maki, Yuji are extremely well written characters. People that watch Jjk for the action cannot easily see that.
I agree I wasn’t too attached to a lot of these fan favorite characters. I thought they were cool but it was kinda weird going from season one where we just get introduced to these characters and then next season they’re dead
i’ve had so much spoiled that i honestly don’t have any motivation to start watching the shibuya arc anymore, and i don’t even interact with jjk media online idk why i’m getting it recommended
the spoiling power of jjk fandom is on the next level i am manga reader and i still get spoiled on weekly basis with all those chapter leaks its been good 6 month since i read the chapter without seeing edits of leaks 3 fucking days before chapter dropsXDD
Thats not called jjk Fandom They are called anime Fandom It literally happens with every show Still Remember getting spoiled for s3 chapters and episodes for aot I 2018-19
When the big reveal got leaked two months ago i got spoiled by a reel the very next day. And they didn't even give spoiler warning after they showed the panel.
I think the idea of killing them off IS that lost potential. Its like the story with Geto you wanted a happy ending you wanted to see the characters stay together and get to know them but instead they're cut down before you really can. It's Yuji's pov too, he wants to die surrounded by people he cares about and these could be those people these could be his people but instead he can't save them and he won't get to know them more and that hurts.
My problem with Shibuya is that it comes so early in the story that we don't feel any emotional connection to these characters when they die. The most impactful death was Nanami's because he was built up properly in season 1.
I agree, I love the chairs analogy from the end of season 1 and love how it called back with her death, but man if we got more character interactions during season 2 with her, and this happened in season 3, I probably would of felt the void
The characters never reached their full potentials, and that’s the point of their death. The prior arc is literally called Premature Death for a reason.
That can literally be said about anime anime character in existence. This is just being pretentious elitist at it's finest. The characters have no complexity or interesting emotional consequences. Not to mention that gojo's backstory is a plain rip off of Kakashi's backstory but done 10 times worse to make it seem like there was an interesting reason for geto to hate 'monkeys'. There's nothing deep.
Gojo’s back story is not similar enough to Kakashi’s at all to warrant this take lol They don’t even have the same personality. Idk wtf you were watching but the only similarity is that they have someone close to them dying. The fact you think it’s a rip off shows you lack the capacity to truly understand the thematic elements that separate the two stories despite them having one or two similarities. I don’t wish to sit here and explain it all to you, but the one hint I will give you is to just look at how different their personalities are (Kakashi vs Gojo) during and after the backstory
I felt the same way storywise about JJK until I re-watchd from the beginning. Binging straight through season, movie, season without breaks feels way more impactful to me for some reason.
I completely agree that Shibuya came one arc too early. We should've gotten at least on more arc exploring the cast a bit more. Have Mai and Nobara fight some more. Nobara and Maki developing their friendship. Show the teachers actually teaching their students. Have the Kyoto students interact more with the main cast and each other, in general. This would not only help the Shibuya arc but the entire story moving forward.
Maybe 1 or 2 episodes, but not a whole arc. Season 1 basically did this. Fleshing out character relationships would have been nice but this isn’t one piece, we don’t need an arc of just character development.
Maybe - but it’s worth noting that JJK was an expensive anime to make and was not massively well received in its first season. It wasn’t bad by any means, but it wasn’t until the second season that it really got the spotlight. If they had waited any longer to release the Shibuya Arc it’s hard to say if the show would’ve held onto its audience and funding
One of the biggest reasons JJK ain’t in my top Shonen is literally because I despise the fans of this show. They are potentially worse than MHA fans! The new Season is like 9 or even a 10/10 adaptation but god damn. Fuck the fans they spoil EVERYTHING.
@@marcioamaral7511 yeah but honestly the show has genuinely been ruined for me though like plot points revealed and deaths etc. If they were just pure annoying or weird I genuinely don’t connect the two but that isn’t the case here, but yeah nah you have a fair point and it should generally not matter what the fans are like in relation to the show but only I think in this instance has it been a pure detriment.
Totally fair the jjk fandom is the worst not only the spoiling but if u ever want to start reading the jjk manga juste stay away from forums or any place that talk about the manga because they complains alot about every detail on the show
You’d be surprised, I went in pretty blind, the only thing I knew was Nobara’s demise, I was pretty blown away by what kind of story Shibuya Incident was able to give, this arc kind of had to happen so they could get Gojo out of the picture and give Yuji a character motivation, also 24 episodes wasn’t enough time to care about characters? Gimme a break dude
3:47 - Retroactively knowing the manga as well, yeah it would have benefited having more time with the characters/plot before Shibuya. To many, the Shibuya is the peak for consistency of hype for a whole arc so Gege may not be able to surpass that bar set (outside of a few individual fights). Also because some characters that are lost, some may not be as invested in the newer cast added in the same way outside of a few standouts (Hakari for example), but besides some deaths, losing a big side character for the series that people like in Todo who really made the final battle with Mahito so great.
I started reading JJK after watching Scambolis Review's recommended mangas video back then and I stopped reading JJK manga in 2018 just right after Culling Game just started by Kenjaku, the anime made me starting to continue reading the manga again 🧘🏻♂
Counter-point: The arc hits harder because there are a lot of premature deaths in it, and it sells the believability of how dour the lives of jujutsu sorcerers are. I understand the fanbase wanting more from these characters, but I think losing them in such unapologetic and untimely ways makes you appreciate the time you had with them more. Kinda like death in the real world
Counter counter point- you still need to spend time with your characters more for this to actually work. It doesn’t matter how abrupt, unfortunate, or untimely it is if I care little to nothing about who is dying. A character still having dreams and more to give dying can hit fairly hard, but you need some sort of link. Friends of mine died, one even before they finished highschool. They never got to graduate and that sucks. But I still had time to bond and that’s why it hurts.
Memes aside, the title is really fitting. It's as it says, truly a Jujutsu Kaisen. You're invested with the power system and not just the characters and the plot
Shibuya Arc is PEAK because the series literally peaks there lmao. It's why it's what most manga readers are talking about. Everything after that is mediocre in comparison with some great moments here and there.
That grabbed people's attention because of some shock factor like "Oh Gojo is trapped now watch these bland characters die" And that gojo's backstory which is literally a rip off of Kakashi's.
@@Trade4Lewt No that's a writing problem. The show didn't make me care to remember because they didn't make getto interesting. The villain in the movie he was interesting. The guy who took over his body I don't care. Also all these characters left no emotional impact. That second half of the nobarah death episode put me to sleep
@@thefarmer6541 you mean a shonen series with a bunch of characters in it especially when they are dying not being interesting at all is a pointless criticism? You lack critical thinking clearly
IMO the action next season will be even better. And season 4 will top that. The fights will be insane with crazy powers and choregraphy (in the manga at least). I can't wait
the only thing that you can hold against shibuya arc trully like gigguk said is that it came an arc too early thats the only complaint that i have had with it but still peak shonen
Nobara's death was pointless, and had no purpose. There was zero emotional investment to around half the fights. Kenjaku is a far less interesting and emotionally-engaging villain than Getou, so that's a massive L.
@@yabo7030 I mean, if your not very good at understanding alot of grammer then, its not really exhausting, idk, i understand it pretty quickly with how fast my brain processes everything to figure it all out quickly.
@@Tailsxcosmo2122 if you read the manga you know it is only going to get worse and I saw a lot of other people with same issue. Even if you get it instantly it still breaks the flow of the fight and it is just a lazy way of writing too.
@@sayanghosh4519 "No need to understand". Just shows how illogical you are😭😅😅 Bro wtf...if you don't understand, you can't even say anything about the story. I am sure you don't understand the story. Story is peak as hell
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 true bro shakespeare tolkien miura grrm all bow before gege nothing compares to the artisitic and literary themes portayed by jujustu kaisen..characters like gojo yuji sukuna megumi put best characters in history of fiction to shame
You missed the other 90% of things that happened SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS Mechamaru death, Nanami death, Nobara death, Todo decommission, Hanami death, Jogo death, Geto reveal, Dagon death, Naobito death, Yuji +15 fingers, Yuta return. Sukuna not "Sakuna" btw
Because joey has actually watched a lot of anime so he understands what a true masterpiece is Jjk is much closer to endgame rather than the gladiator or Shawshank redemption or Schindler's list And in shounen we had a handful of shows and I'm sure Joey experienced way more than me and my handful of shows that are closer to the latter kinda movies rather than endgame Op mob 100 HxH FMA Brotherhood shows that's actually cinema not rollercoasters theme park
Its about the first season and it was good but not a masterpiece like people praise too be, and yet with the new season its not fleshed out with characters and some of the death dont hit as hard as it should. So far from Masterpiece but as far as action its the best out there. Demon Slayer got rekt here 😂
i can agree with everything he said. Honestly, back when season 1 was airing, i wouldn't have believed it if somebody told me i was going to be THIS hooked on the second season of this show. Yeah season 1 was great, but man, season 2 is honestly some of the best fiction i've watched, ever. And to the JJK fandom, f*ck you (lol) I had to force myself to read the manga instead of waiting for season 3 because all new character appearances, and quite frankly the biggest thing in the manga (after the shibuya arc) was all unavoidably spoiled to me. I also dont appreciate the fact that i can't even be excited for a new chapter, because even though unreleased, new chapters constantly get leaked, and those leaks tend to land right at my feeds. But other than this fandom being incapable of controlling themselves not to spoil, as a whole my experience with JJK has been nothing but positive (with some emotional moments, of course - but still enjoyable to watch). I'm glad that JJK got so big this year and it has really helped get me through each week lmao
I'm sad that he likes jjk now because it becomes a bit unbearable after the next arc or so. And a large part of it is probably because of the manga fans. Don't think even half of the fans pay attention to what's actually going on in the manga. Plus the plot in the manga is heavily driven by the action side of things and that becomes annoying because if this was coming out a decade ago we would've had atleast a mini arc that dealt with the characters and their motivations individually. I love the jjk characters but jjk doesn't give enough breathing room to them to express themselves. Tl; dr jjk could be like a hundred times better if it had some negligible filler/slice of life instead of a whole lot of nothing.
Honestly think it’s because Gege wanted to write three mangas while he was a manga artist. Imagine if he had odas mentality of making the story his life’s work. A combination of oda style of having character moments and time to breath combined with Geges style of easily like able character great execution to plot points and not being scared to kill of character with great action scenes would literally make one of the best abonen mangas
@@jj6184Yeah that’s honestly why I feel sad, because this had the potential to be a top 3 shounen of all time. For me, the way it went makes it a potentially top 10 at most shounen manga.
This is just wrong. Ive seen this criticism multiple times and it doesnt seem to have an understanding of jjks form of storytelling at all. Jjk is storytelling thru action. Plot revelations, character development, plot progression, thematic ideas, all happen thru fights. To argue the fights in the culling game dont flesh out these characters is just insane to say , especially with yuji and maki’s. What u rlly want is to see miwa chop it up wit goddamn momo or something but gege is showing u sukuna and kashimo’s philosophies on love nd strength nd making interesting dynamics with kenjaku nd takalba, but yall js ignore that 😭
Idk, I felt like we had enough time with most of the characters that passed away outside of one of them and I'm not convinced they're permanently gone.
I very much disagree about how it chose killing off characters, that’s sort of the theme of the series of characters dying prematurely, there was hints of this even in the flashback arc before Shibuya. If I remember this is based on the constant use of Buddhist concepts sprinkled like iron shavings in the sands of the plot.
After stand proud, open up his domain. He said "are you you are strong because you're nah I'm you, or you're the one who left it all behind with his overwhelming intensity always bet on hakari. The fingerer simply answered "Nah I'd would win"
The only plot point that wasn’t spoiled to me was Choso’s defection, and so I was extremely delighted at the turn of the events near the end of the arc. All my favorite characters are either dead or out of commission, so he’s my new favorite character because he sparked so much joy with how funny he turned out to be.
Hidden Inventory/Premature Death arc was definitely the best arc from an *efficiency standpoint* of packing in a lot: character dynamics of Gojo and Geto, action, a few slice of life moments, character drama, and social ideology. It accomplished a lot with the little time it had. It's what got me more personally invested in JJK more than anything else.
Looking back on Shibuya from a manga reader perspective, this is the jjk's Infinity War/end game. Big cool epic war killing off a few of the fan favourites, then the subsequent arcs don't really fill up that big gapping hole well, and it fell off, just like the mcu. So yeah, here's the anime version of the Infinity War.
It doesn't fall off at all in culling games lol. I even liked culling games more than shibuya. This includes Gojo vs Sukuna battle. Jjk certainly doesn't fall off
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Yes, there are cool fights in culling game, personal favourite is yuta's and choso's, but it is where things are starting to get out of hand where characters get introduced then shortly sent off.
JJK's peak will always be culling games and not Shibuya lol. There's nothing that Shibuya does better than the CG arc. Shibuya is an arc overhyped by the manga readers.
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Oh, soooooo many fucking characters. Basically, gege is like, okay you got one cool fight and off you go! Like yuki tsukumo, kashimo, ryu that cannon guy, and don't even get me started on that katana and sumo man! Literally, what is those two's purpose?! Give maki an inspiration and power boost and then fuck right off??? Then the US government and cannon fodders were just there and gone. There certainly are amazing fights, but the structure of the whole story is also certainly looser than before.
The action is all it has going for it. I haven’t cared about a single character in jjk because he doesn’t write characters. I almost, key word almost, cared about Nobara and Maki but then he throws in a bunch of characters I will never care about. It should be a c on that alone. Action is cool and all but only when it’s backed up by compelling characters
It's not that good, it's just WWE, the plot is minimal, the character growth is minimal unless the character is going to die, and all you do is watch who's going to fight who each week. It's okay, but it's impossibly for me to say it's a good story.
Season 1 was alright. It was hype and I liked it, but I felt like it was overhyped, and it wasn’t until the power system was explained to me that I started to get really excited for the next season, and honestly the 1st half of season 2 made me love the series. And Shibuya made it locked down indefinitely.
Demon Slayer is great. You come home from a long day of roof work, play a few video games and cuddle in bed with the wife while watching an episode or two if you're behind. The only way people DISLIKE Demon Slayer is if they're a pretentious loser with nothing going on in their life, with no one who loves them, and have numbers in their usernames on internet forums because they can't get anything original.
I don't know, as an anime only watcher, midway through it seemed it had everything to be a fucking banger but it just didn't click with me for some reason. Finished the last episode thinking: "What the fuck is going on". Like from a story standpoint I get it but as a watching experience shit was progressing so fast I felt bewildered.
Can someone help me out? As someone, who though that first season action scenes were generic and bland slop, would I enjoy the second season, or should I skip?
Season 2 has better action scenes, but if you want to watch for story too I would only recommend the first 5 episodes of the hidden inventory arc for this season. Kinda drops off after. The anime still made it far better than the manga though.
@@galaxyvulture6649 Thanks for the answer, I'm gonna check out the first episodes and dropt it, when I get bored. Also I get teens now, if you start out with JJK or its your second-third action anime, it's fun. But I don't get people praising it, when you already went through ninja scroll, bleach, naruto, hunter hunter, JoJo and many others. You've already seen it dozen of times, it just looks marginally better now. Im probably just jaded, lol.
If you don't like JJK aciton anime just aren't for you in general. Especially as far as the Shibuya Arc. So many twists and turns in the story in opposition to traditional shonen, it's hard to stop watching. Even if you've seen/read the big other shonen and anime, JJK just does so much different or with so much more style, it becomes it's own thing. I get being jaded, but it would genuinely be sad for a fan of so many good series to miss out what's happening here because they think they've "already seen it dozen of times"
I tried 3 episodes of frieren and I thought it was really great. It was one of those anime that was really well made. It was emotional. BUT, nothing happened. The story is just way to ordinary and way too trivial for my taste.
I think Nobara's death is the single worst part of JJK and it REALLY brings down Shibuya for me, everything else is perfect. Nobara's death is just... such a weird moment, it doesn't make sense. I have thought about it with everything taken into consideration, it just feels like gege wanted her out of the story
Jjk is all about tragedy, specially about what could have been that's what nobara's story and flashback revolves around, that's why i love it. It's cool if you don't but i feel like it does make sense
4:41 i feel different. i mean nanami was a very established charter i feel like gigguk should have cared about him and been sad for his death. as for kugisaki i could understand but i cared about her and they did give enough time in my opinion and gojo well yeah he was there from the beginning nd him beign sealed.. suck and also yeah mehcamaru didnt ahve much screentime. but even if you didn't care about him per say i still felt his death have a really good effect that made me sad. is it just me? maby i just get attached to charters too much or something cuz i kinda disagree with his point here
Same here. When i first read nanami's death in the manga, i was a bit taken aback because i thought he would still be around. I feel like some of these dead characters, before they died, they did left a mark in the story. Like Mechamaru, he fought rather valiantly for the dream that he wanted before he died. Its quite tragic that he died prematurely
Other then attack on titan ending last year I most definitely think JJK carried 2023 I am a manga reader and I was still blown away by how much effort they put into season 2 it was absolutely PEAK 🔥🔥
You must not have watched a lot of anime then As someone who has watched about 15 shows (fully) every season i can tell you that there are at least 5 shows that i will rate above jjk s2 and a bunch others that dont fall too far behind 2023 was an amazing year for anime with a lot of shows in a lot of genres, jjk did not carry
We get it you want to be different and sound cool but at the end of the day 99% of people watch anime for cool fights and chars which makes jjk #1 @@KingJH0510
@KingJH0510 Go ahead and name them, then. Otherwise you don't really seem like you want to make an argument as much as you want to think higher of yourself, lol.
Man... yea i agree the animation was great and the fights were really cool, but i do not know if it is only me, but i cannot give a single fuck for any character in JJK. They are as shallow as a shounen character can get, they topped bleach in how non existent a character can be. I could not remember a single name of any character from JJK without googling it. If all the characters of JJK were exchanged for some faceless clay dolls without faces would get the exactly the same reaction from me every single episode of this season.
i mean yuji and megumi are already better written then any big 3 main char or even most shounen chars. Although the bar isnt high when it comes to shounen chars since 99% them are mid
@@YightLagami does he need to develope to be considered a good written char because the guy didnt even talk about developpement of characters he said they are better written than most shonen mcs which is true Megumi didnt reach his full potentiel as a character i agree doesnt make him badly written though
@@ExrialHD That's a pretty big reach there bud, Yuji's a great character but Megumi is kind of lacking and I'd definitely say there have been better characters than them in shounen
I mean he gets more char development in culling games then literally the big 3 main chars lmao im not saying hes super amazingly written but compared to 99% of shounen chars hes better ngl@@YightLagami
Yes, the action is top notch but i believe there's waaay too much of it. They barely explained anything clearly, the last episode about Geto's plans literally went over my head because of how complicated the dialogue was. Couldnt make out what the writer was trying to say at all.
I LITERALLY had a classmate of mine give a presentation on the Tale of Genji but he just spoiled everything about JJK he could have in regard to Gojo in the current arc. He was supposed to talk about the Tale of Genji and then just… didn’t.
“how the fuck is anything going to compete with this” as a manga reader… oh brother lol. i think the story peaks in hidden inventory but in terms of pure action and fighting? man, people arent ready
The JJK fandom is officially the worst fandom ever at keeping quiet
Facts even the manga readers get spoiled lol!
Can't believe they spoil their own series more than aot fans.
@@crocoboi7936
Today is spoilers day...they're gonna spoil everybody
@@irvingrojas9827
I can't believe it either LMAO
@@marcioamaral7511 lol. Aot fans set the bar high but jjk fans absolutely destroyed that
This is bu far the most spoilery fandom I've seen. I have never been spoiled so much so far ahead of time. And so often. It's hard to forget spoilers when you come across the same spoiler weekly for months
I thought the AOT fanbase was the worst in that aspect,oh how wrong I was 💀
Even as a manga reader it’s still hard to not get spoiled from leaked chapters,this community is so stupid
@@onesmileybaldy8303why the F u include urself in a community 😂😂😂 anime community is always bad. Its ur own fault
@@vijaz5559i have no connections with AOT and JJK and has not watch them and yet I was ALSO spoiled to shit. It's difficult not to get spoiled on the internet when the algorithm is shit.
As a bingwatcher, I literally knew every death before I even started watching 2nd season. I even stopped using twitter just to avoid spoilers, but then I get randomly recommended on youtube a death scene 5 hours after it happened... On top of that when I was watching all the jjk s2 memes and clips after I caught up, people in the comments are just dropping casually manga spoilers
this shit ain't funny man... geniuenly lowered my enjoyment of the series. I could tell you every major death that happened in the manga and I haven't touched that shit
@@vijaz5559 because I like the manga? 💀
This arc is when i felt jujutsu in my kaisen🗿💀
Had me jujutsuing all over my screen
She jujutsu on my kaisen till i shibuya incident
For me it went from ow new gen Naruto to this shit is not close to Naruto 💀
YOU ARE MY SPECIAL 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@charlesesmer9528 when ever I read this my heads goes to yujis depressed face 🤣
Manga readers must be remember when Sukuna said "This is truly our Jujutsu Kaisen, Gojo Satoru."
Lobotomy kaisen reaching 120% of their potential
Nah, Jogoat said that.
With this treasure i summon always bet on hakari
“I’m you Gege”
is this boku no hero reference
lobotomy aside ofc
I agree wholeheartedly when Gigguk said that JJK S2 has some of the coolest choreography in anime. Like, holy shit, the ways the environment and abilities were used have made me go "holy shit THIS is why I love anime fights", which is something I haven't felt in a long time
It's usually pure destruction in anime destroying the city but it was so shocking seeing cars, trains, fucking planes, and buildings being thrown around and used mid fight.
@@Phantom-bi8xg THIS. Usually in anime strength is only shown via destruction of surroundings, but what I like about JJK is that strength is shown in other ways as well. The scene where a fucking PLANE started falling out of the sky made me go "HOLY SHIT". Like, I've always wanted to see an anime that constantly emphasize on "how powerful we are!" actually AFFECT the civilians if their battles are supposedly that powerful, and JJK gave me that.
Masterpiece
Shibuya arc is one of the best arcs there is in anime right now but I agree with the take that it came one season too early. If there was one more season of something else so the characters would get fleshed out even more it would have hit way harder. Nobaras death for example would hit a lot more if we had more time with her as a character. I'm sorry but when she died I was like "okay" and moved on. I didn't get enough time to get emotionally invested in her to feel something. I was sad for Yuji, but for her not really and that's not good
Yeah just finished and Can agree that this happen so fast but the action hits so hard. I hope they can flesh more next season with characters that we got and news who will come. I still prefer this then Demon Slayer
@@amarcekovic4237 almost anything is better that demon slayer so yeah lol
@@nikolakrstic8079 yeah facts man
@@nikolakrstic8079 Yeah it's sad to say but I really didn't like the season 3 of demon Slayer aswell as season 1.
Season 2 was pretty good but no where near as good as the fans hype it up
@@nikolakrstic8079Most of its sht is better than Demon Slayer, but anime wise, Tengen vs Gyutaro is better than all jjk fights.
Season 2 made JJK jump from top 15-ish to top 5 Anime off all time for me. absolute PEAK.
And it will dropback to Top500 when rest of it animated
@@user-lh5my4ws8j nah what follows is still a banger
@@user-lh5my4ws8jLol those are the best parts even better than some in shibuya
@@user-lh5my4ws8j Culling games better than shibuya btw #realshit
@@user-lh5my4ws8jHonestly lol, this is the JJK’s peak imo
I'm looking at the tier list, and I'm so glad Apothecary diaries is in S tier, such a great show honestly, it's one of the things that keeps me sane in this stressful exam period.
If he thinks he got little time to get attached to characters before Gege axed them then he is truly not gonna feel anything for the next deaths. Shibuya was the last time where we lost characters that Gege took at least a little bit of time to get us attached to. The rest will be mostly “ok here is a character,he does this,this and this,and now he is dead” sometimes we don’t even get to see everything a character can do 💀
And then there's a whole chapter explaining a character's power, and he never does anything again (kirara)
TFW characters say they got a domain expansion but you don’t get
To see it 💀
I dont really care about the characters but I love how gege kills them nonstop lol
@@rodrigoyzaguirre1180you don’t care about the characters *BACAUSE* Gege kills them nonstop lol
bro i see you on almost every video I click on, and also you are right asf only one death in the entire series actually made me feel something
4:00 BRO the amount of spoiler thumbnails i saw from the JJK manga readers after and during the release of season 2 is crazy, after being spoiled on about 5 major plot points I have now made an executive decision to actively look away and not read any JJK thumbnails I see, or else risk being spoiled.
to me hidden inventory arc is still my fav. arc that came out of jjk
Hidden Inventory was the best but goddamn Shibuya was a spectacle.
Yeah agreed it way better written than shibuya
Agreed. I loved how Toji used his brain to actually try to beat Gojo, it is just chef's kiss 👌
definitely has the best writing
People who disagree with this take don't have taste buds.
Shibuya was a sakugafest. but the famous french poet la fontaine did write of the difference between beauty and the mind, a leopard's pelt may be pretty but you will grow weary, something that tickles the mind will satisfy you in perpetuity.
Hidden inventory>shibuya and it's not even close
I'm kinda confused why he didn't talk about the hidden inventory arc. I geniunenly think that arc was better than the shibuya arc
Hidden Inventory/Premature Death arc is definitely the best arc from an efficiency standpoint of packing in a lot: character dynamics of Gojo and Geto, action, a few slice of life moments, character drama, and social ideology. It accomplished a lot with the little time it had. It's what got me more personally invested in JJK more than anything else.
@@raec5426 completely agree, also the moments and the story writing with toji and him shooting the girl next to geto and the reasons for why they were fighting had me so much more invested and the toji gojo fight was still the best fight of the season. I actually didn't really like the Shibuya arc cause it feels like their was so much wasted potential, sukuna mahoraga fight couldve been one of the best but the animation was unfinished and hard to follow, a lot of the fights felt not so meaningful and didnt have me invested and the fights felt dragged out to fill up screen time rather than moving the story along like an action sequence from a Hollywood movie where the camera is shaking for 10 minutes of fighting in which characters don't feel natural. Feels like they are just trying to do cool flashy attacks to put on a performance instead of real characters actually fighting practically to win, Mahito was the worst at this where his attacks just don't feel practical with the abilities he has and rather felt like it was blatantly meant to be cool, unique attacks to put on a performance for a show rather than how characters in a real world scenario so that the fight can be dragged out and look cool for the show. Toji Gojo on the other hand felt actually real, like im watching characters do what they would do in this world instead of 2 plot devices putting on a blatant performance for me to enjoy in the means of an action sequence. Their fight was much shorter, much more practical, yet it had me much more invested as it was more meaningful and in the midst of an actually interesting mini plot in the show and their fight is much more memorable. I'm sure in a couple months I won't remember all the intracacies of the fights from Shibuya but I will still remember every detail of Toji Gojo fight.
@@payload1174nah ur trippin the makora fight was seriously some of the most impressed I was with the show on just about every level
@@lostmycat5671 That fight had a lot of potential I agree, I just don't think they delivered. I was very hyped for when the fight started but I was watching it with my friends and none of us could really follow, it looked flashy and stuff but I can't just pretend like it's amazing when it didn't feel that way. If the animation was followable and there was a bit more foreshadowing for Mahoraga (personal opinion maybe, I don't like how all the explanation for how Mahoraga came to be happens so close to the fight, I like when these things are sprinkled in earlier and then its so much cooler when a moment like this happens cause you actually understand whats going on instantly instead of still working it out while they are fighting. They don't have to tell us about Mahoraga but explain how the dude's power works and hint at how his power went toe to toe with Sukuna in the past and that's why he's interested in him or just the height of his power in general is not fully unlocked or something than it would be so sick when the moment occurs and they only need to give a little explanation instead of an essay to make sense of whats going on.) then I think it would've been a top fight of the year.
Agree shibuya was mid
S tier for the season, F for the fandom
If you don't want to get spoiled, You won't get spoiled
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Nope, not true, people spoil in places not even JJK related with memes
@@jimohabdulqudus4283Literal Duolingo dropped a Gojo death spoiler some time back. Nowhere is safe.
@@mrsanguini5819 Gojo's death is a special case....
It broke the internet.
That's literally what started the whole spoiling shit
@@raec5426 Those won't be big spoilers and you can avoid it
(Disclaimer: This comment doesn't have spoilers.)
Jujutsu Kaisen is one of those manga that I absolutely despise the fact that it got popular. Most of the people who spoil the manga for others don't even understand the story one bit. There is a really big number of fans. But only a small portion of them actually follow the manga along and comprehend it. For example, the *big spoiler* that's been circulating around is spread by salty fans not liking the way things unfolded. But if they actually paid attention for one second instead of making up their own head-cannon they would have realized it was an obvious writing choice. And the most important of all, this is a manga drawn and written by Gege Akutami. He can do whatever the fuck he wants in his own story. You don't get to decide how he writes a story.
@@rohitkamble3568 Wow, you're such a genius! I didn't think about that! 😐
(Edit: Context: Somebody replied with "If you don't want to get spoiled, don't follow JJK on social media." But they deleted the comment after I replied.)
I completely agree with you man most of these fans are not even enjoying the manga they are hate watching it,
What happened was pretty inevitable eitherway, what happened afterwards and it's interactions is the most bullshit writing I've ever seen in manga
And perhaps the worst character assassination I've ever seen and a massive piss on the graves on 2 other characters lmao
@@miralis00 Are you talking about Gojo?
Honestly sadly anime watcher too saying this story has no depth when they just look at the action scenes and do not read the subtitles or remember any of the important moments from season 1 it’s so frustrating that people don’t care. Heck even in this comment section someone said they don’t ever want to hear JJK and good character writing ever again.
Never seen an anime/manga fandom be so open with spoilers, surpassing AOT with ending. In 2023, the fandom shifted with good aspects (funny memes) and bad aspects (spoiling almost everything).
The convergence of the source material with the fandom and the studio news as they were releasing it was what made this so peak. For alot of fans, it was a chance to peek behind the curtain and see just how much creative effort it takes to make an episode. Many in the art world appreciate labors of love and tie art to the struggle of the artist. This season was the first time many got to experience a similar appreciation for the genre in real time. Not sure it'll happen again and honestly wouldn't want it to. They deserve better.
YES! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT EVER SINCE THEY STARTED CALLING IT MID AFTER SEASON 1
Am i the only one who likes the characters just as much as the action?
And that’s totally fair I but for some people it doesn’t like I love jjk don’t get me wrong but I can’t say I felt much of anything when nobara died cause I just didn’t know her that well
I like the foundation of the characters, just wish Gege did more with some of them before they get taken out the plot. lol What really got me invested in JJK more than anything else was the Hidden Inventory arc to explore Gojo and Geto's individual characters and the relationship they had to each other.
Idk about anyone else but I think not a single anime comes close to jjk when it comes to the no. of absolute lovable and cool characters , literally every character feels human and cooler until the next character is introduced and you are like yo this might be my new fav .
@@soultheconfusing9563 Sorta disagree, I think we got to know her well but I think its not really about that. I think it's more about she deserved more as a main 3.
Everyone does bro
it would have been better for shibuya to happen later but the truth is that gege didn't want that. he didn't even want the story set in a "high-school" or for the kyoto exchange event arc to happen at all. it was his editor that forced these changes. that editor got replaced after shibuya, and since then it's been break neck fights and deaths, which is the story he's trying to tell. a lot of people think that editors stifle creativity and ruin stories, but imo jjk is a prime example of how a good editor can make a good story better
That's kinda mind-boggling. I did think that s1 kinda took it's time for buildup and was a bit on the weaker side of things. . . but that made s2 all the more epic.
I'm not sure if keeping that editor around post shibuya would've made for a well paced story, but i feel like everything after shibuya has either been too fast, or a bit on the tame/dull side here and there.
So the editor was the reason jjk was good lmao
I just know that any mention of emotions was the idea of the editor and not from Gege. This dude is just evil 😭
@@foggyfrogy more like a bad writer
All the things jujutsu kaisen copied and ripped off from other animes
Gojo = Kakashi
Megumi = sasuke
Nobara = Rukia
Curses = Hollows
Ai todo = Kenpachi ripoff
Kenjaku = Aizen ripoff the way he plans stuff out
Mahito = Orochimaru ripoff
Sukuna = inner demon trope thats been done a million times before
Maki zenin and Mai zenin = Is a copy of Soi fon and yoruchi storyline from bleach
Mahito betraying junpei = A copy of Aizen betraying momo
Panda = copy of komamura from bleach
Yuji copyed ichigos goal and thats to save and help people
Choso = Muramasa ripoff
Jujutsu kaisen is not no masterpeice its the most shitty anime to exist it has nothing original about it.
Stand proud, you are PEAK🔥
Read/watch literally anything else.
@EcopiuM and cope that it is so better than peak
@@EcopiuM name 1
Stand proud, you are MID
@@lemonadestandclips3349houseki no kuni
I like how brutal and numerous the deaths were in this arc. Yes, characters were taken away too soon before they had a chance to meet their full potential, but that's the point. If more characters had made it out of that situation, it would feel like cheap plot armor and undercut the gravity of the event. A parallel example I can think of is Pein's Assault arc in Naruto which saw the entire Leaf Village get utterly obliterated with tons of major character deaths, but then Naruto does his Talk no Jutsu real good on Nagato and everyone who died gets revived. JJK does not cop out like that. The Shibuya Incident truly feels catastrophic both in terms of how it effects the characters and the world of JJK, and I respect Gege for the followthrough.
Yeah I’m not saying there should be less deaths but it’s just that some deaths don’t hit that much because it feels like they die just because to make you feel bad and you don’t because you don’t feel connected to the character that much. For example nobara, when she died I was just like……..”sad I guess”.
@@crocoboi7936 that is just you there were plenty of people upset and bitching about her death
@@haven7617 no but the fact that it’s so nebulous especially for a MAIN character and it isn’t brought up is kind of disappointing.
I think there can be a better balance of getting more with certain characters before meeting an early end though.
I agree. I also think Nobara dying early fits with what Yaga said to Yuji at the beginning of the series. Sorcerers usually die early and with regrets.
Nobara is a great example of a sorcerer dying early and it's a reminder that NOBODY is safe in JJK regardless if it's still early or not.
You also need to consider that Yuji has a hero complex. He wants to save everyone which is an unrealistic goal that will only cause him pain or more death in the long run. Her death serves as a lesson to Yuji that he can't save everyone.
I respect Nobara though because she excepted her death without regrets in end which keeps her from turning into a vengeful cursed spirit. She choose to except her death which protects humanity and her comrades.
It’s one of if not the best new gen arcs. Seriously the best action I’ve ever seen in anime, great character writing in Yuji & Mahito’s dynamic which extends to Todo & Nanami, crazy reveals & plot points and a great culmination of every previous arc as well as tease of the next arcs and more. Comfortable 9.5/10 for me.
There are better arcs
@@nameless_1like what?
@@unique_package5370I couldn't think if any new gen arcs that are better but Chainsaw Man Part 1's Public Safety Arc is the only one
Great character writing? What are you talking about. I never want to see anyone mentioned JJK and good character writing ever again.
@@EcopiuMThat's because you don't understand the characters bro.
Gojo, Sukuna, Mahito, Jogo, Nanami, Kenjaku, Geto, Toji, Maki, Yuji are extremely well written characters.
People that watch Jjk for the action cannot easily see that.
I agree I wasn’t too attached to a lot of these fan favorite characters. I thought they were cool but it was kinda weird going from season one where we just get introduced to these characters and then next season they’re dead
i’ve had so much spoiled that i honestly don’t have any motivation to start watching the shibuya arc anymore, and i don’t even interact with jjk media online idk why i’m getting it recommended
It's still a great experience
i've had stuff spoiled for me but shibuya was still a hell of a ride. After that though, it doesn't matter a ton.
The moment he said full potential my right eye actually exploded
the spoiling power of jjk fandom is on the next level i am manga reader and i still get spoiled on weekly basis with all those chapter leaks its been good 6 month since i read the chapter without seeing edits of leaks 3 fucking days before chapter dropsXDD
Thats not called jjk Fandom
They are called anime Fandom
It literally happens with every show
Still Remember getting spoiled for s3 chapters and episodes for aot I 2018-19
get off the internet or figure out how to mute words or phrases
@@northwestclasspnw7974 ok little bro
I love hearing people gock my fav manga when we tell them the next arc is where it's at.
When the big reveal got leaked two months ago i got spoiled by a reel the very next day. And they didn't even give spoiler warning after they showed the panel.
I think the idea of killing them off IS that lost potential. Its like the story with Geto you wanted a happy ending you wanted to see the characters stay together and get to know them but instead they're cut down before you really can. It's Yuji's pov too, he wants to die surrounded by people he cares about and these could be those people these could be his people but instead he can't save them and he won't get to know them more and that hurts.
My problem with Shibuya is that it comes so early in the story that we don't feel any emotional connection to these characters when they die. The most impactful death was Nanami's because he was built up properly in season 1.
That was really the main death though. I can def agree on the other one being wasted.
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@@AJ-ry8qd Thank you for the well articulated critique.
I agree, I love the chairs analogy from the end of season 1 and love how it called back with her death, but man if we got more character interactions during season 2 with her, and this happened in season 3, I probably would of felt the void
Yeah the most glaring problem was Nobara's death.
If I'm not wrong, the director of the Sukuna vs. Jogo ep. also directed the famous Shimazaki vs. all ep. in Mob Psycho 100 S2.
That would actually make a lot of sense…both scenes are fuxkin goated (i prefer JJK’s scene though)
The characters never reached their full potentials, and that’s the point of their death. The prior arc is literally called Premature Death for a reason.
FINALLY someone with a brain
That can literally be said about anime anime character in existence. This is just being pretentious elitist at it's finest. The characters have no complexity or interesting emotional consequences.
Not to mention that gojo's backstory is a plain rip off of Kakashi's backstory but done 10 times worse to make it seem like there was an interesting reason for geto to hate 'monkeys'. There's nothing deep.
Yeah and it's realistic, do you think people just die after they did everything they wanted to do? No, it can happen at any time
Gojo’s back story is not similar enough to Kakashi’s at all to warrant this take lol
They don’t even have the same personality. Idk wtf you were watching but the only similarity is that they have someone close to them dying.
The fact you think it’s a rip off shows you lack the capacity to truly understand the thematic elements that separate the two stories despite them having one or two similarities.
I don’t wish to sit here and explain it all to you, but the one hint I will give you is to just look at how different their personalities are (Kakashi vs Gojo) during and after the backstory
@@Trade4Lewt Objectively brainless and cope poisoned take.
Just because you shit the bed on purpose doesnt make it a work of art.
Surprised there were people who didn’t like this Arc, but I get it, the tonal shift is fucking brutal
That's not the reason tho
@@gaminginvirinch3339 that’s a big reason I heard from people
Shock value, brutalism and deaths doesn't make something good. Writing does.
@@iknowwatdadogdoin5454 then why the f are you watching this show lmao? Go back to watching the “writing” in your stupid romance anime’s lmao
Demon Slayer has a few of those "OH SHIT!" moments during their fights. Meanwhile jjk fights...well, the fight ITSELF is the "OH SHIT!" moment.
LEEEETS GOOOO!. We manga readers were so excited. We were talking so much about it was with a reason. The arc is goated
I felt the same way storywise about JJK until I re-watchd from the beginning. Binging straight through season, movie, season without breaks feels way more impactful to me for some reason.
I completely agree that Shibuya came one arc too early. We should've gotten at least on more arc exploring the cast a bit more. Have Mai and Nobara fight some more. Nobara and Maki developing their friendship. Show the teachers actually teaching their students. Have the Kyoto students interact more with the main cast and each other, in general.
This would not only help the Shibuya arc but the entire story moving forward.
Maybe 1 or 2 episodes, but not a whole arc. Season 1 basically did this. Fleshing out character relationships would have been nice but this isn’t one piece, we don’t need an arc of just character development.
Maybe - but it’s worth noting that JJK was an expensive anime to make and was not massively well received in its first season. It wasn’t bad by any means, but it wasn’t until the second season that it really got the spotlight. If they had waited any longer to release the Shibuya Arc it’s hard to say if the show would’ve held onto its audience and funding
Maybe the specialz were the friends we lost along the way 😔
It cooked so hard it used the malevolent kitchen
Wait till the culling games arc begin
One of the biggest reasons JJK ain’t in my top Shonen is literally because I despise the fans of this show. They are potentially worse than MHA fans! The new Season is like 9 or even a 10/10 adaptation but god damn. Fuck the fans they spoil EVERYTHING.
I don't relate the show to the fans
If I did that I'd never watch some shows LMAO
@@marcioamaral7511 yeah but honestly the show has genuinely been ruined for me though like plot points revealed and deaths etc. If they were just pure annoying or weird I genuinely don’t connect the two but that isn’t the case here, but yeah nah you have a fair point and it should generally not matter what the fans are like in relation to the show but only I think in this instance has it been a pure detriment.
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Yeah...I'm a JJK fan myself but I've been there before JJK exploded
The fandom now is a mess and it's infuriating
They aren’t as bad as AOT manga fans who claim themselves to be smarter when they didn’t see the most obvious ending in all of anime.
Totally fair the jjk fandom is the worst not only the spoiling but if u ever want to start reading the jjk manga juste stay away from forums or any place that talk about the manga because they complains alot about every detail on the show
Best Action Shounen arc ever…along with York New City arc…
The raid redemption reference was insane
At this point I don't think anyone had that shock factor anymore in jjk
You’d be surprised, I went in pretty blind, the only thing I knew was Nobara’s demise, I was pretty blown away by what kind of story Shibuya Incident was able to give, this arc kind of had to happen so they could get Gojo out of the picture and give Yuji a character motivation, also 24 episodes wasn’t enough time to care about characters? Gimme a break dude
Nobara is a rough spoil. But otherwise, there was so much to enjoy, and the MAPPA treatment on top was a chef's works.
3:47 - Retroactively knowing the manga as well, yeah it would have benefited having more time with the characters/plot before Shibuya. To many, the Shibuya is the peak for consistency of hype for a whole arc so Gege may not be able to surpass that bar set (outside of a few individual fights).
Also because some characters that are lost, some may not be as invested in the newer cast added in the same way outside of a few standouts (Hakari for example), but besides some deaths, losing a big side character for the series that people like in Todo who really made the final battle with Mahito so great.
The rabbit and wolf scene. OH MY GAHD!
I started reading JJK after watching Scambolis Review's recommended mangas video back then and I stopped reading JJK manga in 2018 just right after Culling Game just started by Kenjaku, the anime made me starting to continue reading the manga again 🧘🏻♂
I got spoiled the biggest twist (if you know you know) litterally 2 days before I even could read the chapter in English. The fandom is just horrible
Counter-point: The arc hits harder because there are a lot of premature deaths in it, and it sells the believability of how dour the lives of jujutsu sorcerers are. I understand the fanbase wanting more from these characters, but I think losing them in such unapologetic and untimely ways makes you appreciate the time you had with them more. Kinda like death in the real world
Exactly. Shit just happens sometimes. Not everyone is going out in a blaze of glory after unleashing their true power and saying their farewells.
Counterpoint: Nuh-uh still doesn't have much impact
They literally have an arc called “premature death” 😭
@@swiggydswirl330 sometimes people just die and you don't feel anything
Counter counter point- you still need to spend time with your characters more for this to actually work. It doesn’t matter how abrupt, unfortunate, or untimely it is if I care little to nothing about who is dying. A character still having dreams and more to give dying can hit fairly hard, but you need some sort of link. Friends of mine died, one even before they finished highschool. They never got to graduate and that sucks. But I still had time to bond and that’s why it hurts.
That’s how I feel, the animators deserve our praise for creating what they did despite the issues.
Memes aside, the title is really fitting. It's as it says, truly a Jujutsu Kaisen. You're invested with the power system and not just the characters and the plot
Shibuya Arc is PEAK because the series literally peaks there lmao. It's why it's what most manga readers are talking about. Everything after that is mediocre in comparison with some great moments here and there.
shit opinion
Facts, such a shame. 😅
That grabbed people's attention because of some shock factor like "Oh Gojo is trapped now watch these bland characters die" And that gojo's backstory which is literally a rip off of Kakashi's.
The culling games is way better tbh
My problem with jjk is that its all spectacle. I dont care about any of the characters deaths or the villains motivations
thats a you problem, you didnt pay attention, thats what happens when you dont pay attention.
@@Trade4Lewt No that's a writing problem. The show didn't make me care to remember because they didn't make getto interesting. The villain in the movie he was interesting. The guy who took over his body I don't care. Also all these characters left no emotional impact. That second half of the nobarah death episode put me to sleep
The characters weren't interesting is the single most pointless criticism
@@thefarmer6541 you mean a shonen series with a bunch of characters in it especially when they are dying not being interesting at all is a pointless criticism? You lack critical thinking clearly
@@4getmenot182 two important characters died, also yes thats not critism, that's like saying calling something bad is critism
I’m not really into the “discourse” which was really nice because I didn’t get a single spoiler for this season and wow I was blown away
IMO the action next season will be even better. And season 4 will top that. The fights will be insane with crazy powers and choregraphy (in the manga at least). I can't wait
the only thing that you can hold against shibuya arc trully like gigguk said is that it came an arc too early thats the only complaint that i have had with it but still peak shonen
What about the working conditions and the unfinished animation
Nobara's death was pointless, and had no purpose.
There was zero emotional investment to around half the fights.
Kenjaku is a far less interesting and emotionally-engaging villain than Getou, so that's a massive L.
@@rancorrage5646 I agree also the way jjk explains their fight-scenes is exhausting. I had to pause sometimes to understand what they were saying.
@@yabo7030 I mean, if your not very good at understanding alot of grammer then, its not really exhausting, idk, i understand it pretty quickly with how fast my brain processes everything to figure it all out quickly.
@@Tailsxcosmo2122 if you read the manga you know it is only going to get worse and I saw a lot of other people with same issue. Even if you get it instantly it still breaks the flow of the fight and it is just a lazy way of writing too.
I finished season 2 and I didn’t understand what happened.
use UA-cam or rewatch season 1 & Watch the movie well
no need to understand bro, enjoy the action...understanding isnt gonna do you any better the story is mediocre
@@sayanghosh4519 "No need to understand".
Just shows how illogical you are😭😅😅
Bro wtf...if you don't understand, you can't even say anything about the story.
I am sure you don't understand the story.
Story is peak as hell
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 true bro shakespeare tolkien miura grrm all bow before gege
nothing compares to the artisitic and literary themes portayed by jujustu kaisen..characters like gojo yuji sukuna megumi put best characters in history of fiction to shame
@@sayanghosh4519the hell where did he even talk about Shakespeare
What the hell are you yapping about 🤣
Saw someone in the chat say "A for Animator Abuse" 💀
This is fucked 💀 💀💀💀💀💀
WHEN GIGGUK WILL MAKE A VIDEO ON HIS MAIN CHANNEL ABOUT SHIBUYA ARC?
The plot of shibuya was literally seal gojo, revive sakuna, throw hands
You missed the other 90% of things that happened
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Mechamaru death, Nanami death, Nobara death, Todo decommission, Hanami death, Jogo death, Geto reveal, Dagon death, Naobito death, Yuji +15 fingers, Yuta return.
Sukuna not "Sakuna" btw
Did bro just put that 100 girlfriends anime over AOT’s final ep lmao😂
Shows his taste and priorities.
way better than aot
@@JimmyConway-tm3oj sarcastic
yo where can i buy those clothes..!!!!??
Jjk season 2 was indeed at its highest but as a shonen plot. A tier for sure
If he thought Shibuya arc was abrupt, just wait for the Culling Games LOOOL.
The thing that blow's my mind is how Joey still think it's mid🙄🙄
Because joey has actually watched a lot of anime so he understands what a true masterpiece is
Jjk is much closer to endgame rather than the gladiator or Shawshank redemption or Schindler's list
And in shounen we had a handful of shows and I'm sure Joey experienced way more than me and my handful of shows that are closer to the latter kinda movies rather than endgame
Op mob 100 HxH FMA Brotherhood shows that's actually cinema not rollercoasters theme park
I'm pretty sure he just meant season 1. And I'm pretty sure he originally said "it's okay"
Its about the first season and it was good but not a masterpiece like people praise too be, and yet with the new season its not fleshed out with characters and some of the death dont hit as hard as it should. So far from Masterpiece but as far as action its the best out there. Demon Slayer got rekt here 😂
its almost like joey is pretentious as shit
He doesn't anymore
See the current trash taste episodes,he finally can't say that anymore
i can agree with everything he said. Honestly, back when season 1 was airing, i wouldn't have believed it if somebody told me i was going to be THIS hooked on the second season of this show. Yeah season 1 was great, but man, season 2 is honestly some of the best fiction i've watched, ever. And to the JJK fandom, f*ck you (lol) I had to force myself to read the manga instead of waiting for season 3 because all new character appearances, and quite frankly the biggest thing in the manga (after the shibuya arc) was all unavoidably spoiled to me. I also dont appreciate the fact that i can't even be excited for a new chapter, because even though unreleased, new chapters constantly get leaked, and those leaks tend to land right at my feeds. But other than this fandom being incapable of controlling themselves not to spoil, as a whole my experience with JJK has been nothing but positive (with some emotional moments, of course - but still enjoyable to watch). I'm glad that JJK got so big this year and it has really helped get me through each week lmao
You are my special .......💀
Sukuna vs Mahoraga was a spectacle to experience.
I'm sad that he likes jjk now because it becomes a bit unbearable after the next arc or so. And a large part of it is probably because of the manga fans. Don't think even half of the fans pay attention to what's actually going on in the manga. Plus the plot in the manga is heavily driven by the action side of things and that becomes annoying because if this was coming out a decade ago we would've had atleast a mini arc that dealt with the characters and their motivations individually. I love the jjk characters but jjk doesn't give enough breathing room to them to express themselves. Tl; dr jjk could be like a hundred times better if it had some negligible filler/slice of life instead of a whole lot of nothing.
Honestly think it’s because Gege wanted to write three mangas while he was a manga artist. Imagine if he had odas mentality of making the story his life’s work. A combination of oda style of having character moments and time to breath combined with Geges style of easily like able character great execution to plot points and not being scared to kill of character with great action scenes would literally make one of the best abonen mangas
@@jj6184Yeah that’s honestly why I feel sad, because this had the potential to be a top 3 shounen of all time. For me, the way it went makes it a potentially top 10 at most shounen manga.
This is just wrong. Ive seen this criticism multiple times and it doesnt seem to have an understanding of jjks form of storytelling at all. Jjk is storytelling thru action. Plot revelations, character development, plot progression, thematic ideas, all happen thru fights. To argue the fights in the culling game dont flesh out these characters is just insane to say , especially with yuji and maki’s. What u rlly want is to see miwa chop it up wit goddamn momo or something but gege is showing u sukuna and kashimo’s philosophies on love nd strength nd making interesting dynamics with kenjaku nd takalba, but yall js ignore that 😭
Peak Kaisen is striking once again
Idk, I felt like we had enough time with most of the characters that passed away outside of one of them and I'm not convinced they're permanently gone.
I very much disagree about how it chose killing off characters, that’s sort of the theme of the series of characters dying prematurely, there was hints of this even in the flashback arc before Shibuya. If I remember this is based on the constant use of Buddhist concepts sprinkled like iron shavings in the sands of the plot.
After stand proud, open up his domain. He said "are you you are strong because you're nah I'm you, or you're the one who left it all behind with his overwhelming intensity always bet on hakari. The fingerer simply answered
"Nah I'd would win"
The only plot point that wasn’t spoiled to me was Choso’s defection, and so I was extremely delighted at the turn of the events near the end of the arc. All my favorite characters are either dead or out of commission, so he’s my new favorite character because he sparked so much joy with how funny he turned out to be.
The new arc is even better lol
Shibuya arc was peak fiction...with that being said I still think the peak of jjk s2 is hidden inventory
Hidden Inventory/Premature Death arc was definitely the best arc from an *efficiency standpoint* of packing in a lot: character dynamics of Gojo and Geto, action, a few slice of life moments, character drama, and social ideology. It accomplished a lot with the little time it had. It's what got me more personally invested in JJK more than anything else.
@@raec5426 so true its got all the aspects even its short arc but gege is cooking on that
Looking back on Shibuya from a manga reader perspective, this is the jjk's Infinity War/end game. Big cool epic war killing off a few of the fan favourites, then the subsequent arcs don't really fill up that big gapping hole well, and it fell off, just like the mcu. So yeah, here's the anime version of the Infinity War.
It doesn't fall off at all in culling games lol.
I even liked culling games more than shibuya.
This includes Gojo vs Sukuna battle.
Jjk certainly doesn't fall off
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Yes, there are cool fights in culling game, personal favourite is yuta's and choso's, but it is where things are starting to get out of hand where characters get introduced then shortly sent off.
JJK's peak will always be culling games and not Shibuya lol. There's nothing that Shibuya does better than the CG arc. Shibuya is an arc overhyped by the manga readers.
@@peterwu9648 Which characters??
The dude with the propeller on his head...Who?
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 Oh, soooooo many fucking characters. Basically, gege is like, okay you got one cool fight and off you go! Like yuki tsukumo, kashimo, ryu that cannon guy, and don't even get me started on that katana and sumo man! Literally, what is those two's purpose?! Give maki an inspiration and power boost and then fuck right off??? Then the US government and cannon fodders were just there and gone. There certainly are amazing fights, but the structure of the whole story is also certainly looser than before.
Stand proud Gigguk your strong.
The action is all it has going for it. I haven’t cared about a single character in jjk because he doesn’t write characters. I almost, key word almost, cared about Nobara and Maki but then he throws in a bunch of characters I will never care about. It should be a c on that alone. Action is cool and all but only when it’s backed up by compelling characters
It's not that good, it's just WWE, the plot is minimal, the character growth is minimal unless the character is going to die, and all you do is watch who's going to fight who each week. It's okay, but it's impossibly for me to say it's a good story.
Season 1 was alright. It was hype and I liked it, but I felt like it was overhyped, and it wasn’t until the power system was explained to me that I started to get really excited for the next season, and honestly the 1st half of season 2 made me love the series. And Shibuya made it locked down indefinitely.
Great season for sure, a lot of sad moments too.
To be fair with JJK, Fake Geto's plan couldnt wait for the cast to get built up. Things just happen and nobody is safe
Solid arc 8/10
Its jjk season one for me was a 6/10 sadly
10/10*
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8/10 is a fair rating imo @@Him82826
i will never understand how anyone over the age of 14 can watch demon slayer and think its anything other than garbage.
its entertainment especially for non ds watchers
same with jjk with slightly better characters and plot
@@sayanghosh4519 not even remotely close but ok lmao.
Demon Slayer is great. You come home from a long day of roof work, play a few video games and cuddle in bed with the wife while watching an episode or two if you're behind.
The only way people DISLIKE Demon Slayer is if they're a pretentious loser with nothing going on in their life, with no one who loves them, and have numbers in their usernames on internet forums because they can't get anything original.
nah jjk is fire@@sayanghosh4519
I don't know, as an anime only watcher, midway through it seemed it had everything to be a fucking banger but it just didn't click with me for some reason. Finished the last episode thinking: "What the fuck is going on". Like from a story standpoint I get it but as a watching experience shit was progressing so fast I felt bewildered.
Can someone help me out? As someone, who though that first season action scenes were generic and bland slop, would I enjoy the second season, or should I skip?
Season 2 has better action scenes, but if you want to watch for story too I would only recommend the first 5 episodes of the hidden inventory arc for this season. Kinda drops off after. The anime still made it far better than the manga though.
@@galaxyvulture6649 Thanks for the answer, I'm gonna check out the first episodes and dropt it, when I get bored. Also I get teens now, if you start out with JJK or its your second-third action anime, it's fun. But I don't get people praising it, when you already went through ninja scroll, bleach, naruto, hunter hunter, JoJo and many others. You've already seen it dozen of times, it just looks marginally better now. Im probably just jaded, lol.
If you don't like JJK aciton anime just aren't for you in general. Especially as far as the Shibuya Arc. So many twists and turns in the story in opposition to traditional shonen, it's hard to stop watching.
Even if you've seen/read the big other shonen and anime, JJK just does so much different or with so much more style, it becomes it's own thing. I get being jaded, but it would genuinely be sad for a fan of so many good series to miss out what's happening here because they think they've "already seen it dozen of times"
I tried 3 episodes of frieren and I thought it was really great. It was one of those anime that was really well made. It was emotional. BUT, nothing happened. The story is just way to ordinary and way too trivial for my taste.
That's the point of the story 😂 if u didn't like it then just drop it
I think Nobara's death is the single worst part of JJK and it REALLY brings down Shibuya for me, everything else is perfect. Nobara's death is just... such a weird moment, it doesn't make sense. I have thought about it with everything taken into consideration, it just feels like gege wanted her out of the story
Jjk is all about tragedy, specially about what could have been that's what nobara's story and flashback revolves around, that's why i love it. It's cool if you don't but i feel like it does make sense
Yeah. She pretty much was fridged by Gege.
Noooooo brudda plot is the selling point😵
Jujumpsu Kaisen... *plays Climax*Jumping"
4:41 i feel different. i mean nanami was a very established charter i feel like gigguk should have cared about him and been sad for his death. as for kugisaki i could understand but i cared about her and they did give enough time in my opinion and gojo well yeah he was there from the beginning nd him beign sealed.. suck and also yeah mehcamaru didnt ahve much screentime. but even if you didn't care about him per say i still felt his death have a really good effect that made me sad. is it just me? maby i just get attached to charters too much or something cuz i kinda disagree with his point here
Same here. When i first read nanami's death in the manga, i was a bit taken aback because i thought he would still be around. I feel like some of these dead characters, before they died, they did left a mark in the story. Like Mechamaru, he fought rather valiantly for the dream that he wanted before he died. Its quite tragic that he died prematurely
Well if you're also spoiled like he was on top of that it can take you out of being invested as well.
@@raec5426 yeah, it does. But thats on the fandom, not on the story/author itself.
@@shinigami2502lets be honest these people who spoil are not jjk fans they are just salty people who try to spoil popular anime
@@saitama53034 they are just salty people who wantd clickbait by spoiling things and ruining people's day
Other then attack on titan ending last year I most definitely think JJK carried 2023 I am a manga reader and I was still blown away by how much effort they put into season 2 it was absolutely PEAK 🔥🔥
You must not have watched a lot of anime then
As someone who has watched about 15 shows (fully) every season i can tell you that there are at least 5 shows that i will rate above jjk s2 and a bunch others that dont fall too far behind
2023 was an amazing year for anime with a lot of shows in a lot of genres, jjk did not carry
We get it you want to be different and sound cool but at the end of the day 99% of people watch anime for cool fights and chars which makes jjk #1 @@KingJH0510
@@KingJH0510 nah the only thing in the same league as JJK in 2023 was Vinland, AoT, and Pluto.
Typical anime gatekeep moment:@@KingJH0510
@KingJH0510 Go ahead and name them, then. Otherwise you don't really seem like you want to make an argument as much as you want to think higher of yourself, lol.
People are gonna love culling games
oh man next arc lol
Man... yea i agree the animation was great and the fights were really cool, but i do not know if it is only me, but i cannot give a single fuck for any character in JJK. They are as shallow as a shounen character can get, they topped bleach in how non existent a character can be. I could not remember a single name of any character from JJK without googling it. If all the characters of JJK were exchanged for some faceless clay dolls without faces would get the exactly the same reaction from me every single episode of this season.
i mean yuji and megumi are already better written then any big 3 main char or even most shounen chars. Although the bar isnt high when it comes to shounen chars since 99% them are mid
@@ExrialHDyikes take my dude. Megumi didn’t even develop this arc. JJK fans going in full swing
@@YightLagami does he need to develope to be considered a good written char because the guy didnt even talk about developpement of characters he said they are better written than most shonen mcs which is true
Megumi didnt reach his full potentiel as a character i agree doesnt make him badly written though
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That's a pretty big reach there bud, Yuji's a great character but Megumi is kind of lacking and I'd definitely say there have been better characters than them in shounen
I mean he gets more char development in culling games then literally the big 3 main chars lmao im not saying hes super amazingly written but compared to 99% of shounen chars hes better ngl@@YightLagami
Yes, the action is top notch but i believe there's waaay too much of it. They barely explained anything clearly, the last episode about Geto's plans literally went over my head because of how complicated the dialogue was. Couldnt make out what the writer was trying to say at all.
Sorry but thats a you problem buddy and also its normal not knowing exactly what is happening... you will learn in season 3 thats the literal point
Geto didn't explain his plans that clearly but you know there's a season three right, that will be all about getos plans
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@@royalfun1031 Almost like the Shibuya arc was build up to the next arc 😱
I LITERALLY had a classmate of mine give a presentation on the Tale of Genji but he just spoiled everything about JJK he could have in regard to Gojo in the current arc. He was supposed to talk about the Tale of Genji and then just… didn’t.
“how the fuck is anything going to compete with this”
as a manga reader… oh brother lol. i think the story peaks in hidden inventory but in terms of pure action and fighting? man, people arent ready