Hi guys! Hope you will enjoy this video, please consider subscribing if you havent already and like the video if you found value. The whole video is about doctors so there is no need for a time stamp nut nonetheless here it is. 😊 00:00 Intro and what to expect. 00:59 Trainee Specialist doctor salary 02:10 Junior medical officer salary 03:06 Medical Intern salary 04:54 Medical Officer Specialist Grade 1 Salary 07:31 Community Service doctor salary 08:39 Intern Doctor Salary 09:47 A take on unemployed doctors in South Africa 12:35 Dentist Salary from a private hospital Thanks for stopping by!❤
Working as a doctor in this country is so challenging the pay is good and some don’t mind overtime but the conditions are horrible and room for growth and specialising is so limited . The working conditions actually put you in danger in terms of losing your license due to malpractice cases
@@nricomrmautla3226 maybe the department of health is outsourcing a cheap labour from them but this is upsetting truth be told. This government neglects even the people whos got a rare skill for the country.
Doctors work really hard. Very hard. They have to get paid. I don't even thing they have time for fun, but it is good, if everyone worked like doctors the country would be far.
The gynae is truly lucky to even get a post. A lot of medical specialists go to private because there are no posts for them in public when they qualify as specialists. It has been like that for years!
Fixed overtime here refers to after knock off time 4pm. Its when they are on call. I doubt it would be practical to hire doctor's that work only at night as their basic. Those who opt out of doing calls which is very rare don't get the fixed overtime. It referred to as fixed overtime coz its a fixed number of hours every month.
The shifts are indeed ridiculous for the most part. But let’s be honest , it is not for All doctors . Some of them do calls from home , like radiologists . Also , Consultants even for some of the busiest disciplines have it easier than the ones below them in rank.
The department of health clearly does not employ the smartest of people to run the department. Overtime is more costly than normal time, so why not employ more doctors to reduce the overall people cost? This will also reduce fatigue and the related errors which contribute to poor health care and even premature deaths in our country 😢
Overtime is roughly about 30k for the month ,employing another doctor to work those same hours would mean paying around 60-70k to that doctor,so it's essentially cheaper to overwork doctors rather than employ new ones cause they need to make the basic pay that other doctors make...(working laws )
@@fentsemoyana3198No, R30k/month/doctor if that. You would obviously not higher a doctor to work what would have been a single doctor’s overtime, but a number of them. Overtime is time and a half. Normal time is just time. If it were so much cheaper to higher less workers and pay more overtime, instead of more employees and less overtime then that is what the private sector would mostly do. Overtime is meant to fix a short term man power issue and not be the norm.
I’m not saying they should eliminate overtime, but if on average every doctor is working +/- R30k/month worth of it, yet there are plenty of unemployed doctors then there is something wrong with the system.
S.A Parents need to support/invest on the children to learn Math & Science (If kids are struggling, hire or ask for tutors)... thank me later! This thing of focusing & making children DOMESTIC WORKERS in this day & age no longer works(we no longer preparing our kids for cleaning & gardening) is not sustainable for aBantu, gonna are those days. Energy must be directed at Education not Cleaning!
@@liferesetwithboni My sister... This might be a general comment, but the aim was to spark or prompt viewers/parents to start thinking differently if they want to see more of the next generation earning similar salaries, whether as a doctor, engineer, chartered accountant, scientist, etc.
Im supporting you boss look at Indian they are doctors, dentist ,engineers and IT or computer science/engineer they are educated they take education very seriously
What is the salary , real earnings of a Medical Doctor in South Africa?? A Medical Doctor who does not want to do the most stressful overtime ? Then the Rural allowance? Meaning Doctors not working in the rural areas? From your calculations, that take the salary to R100k. About R40k is the overtime and rural allowance. The truth is the Salary of a Medical Practitioner in South Africa 🇿🇦 is R60k before tax and other deductions. How can that be fare after 8years of study plus including etc. Dear come with the real truth. How many professionals earn much more than that??
@liferesetwithboni I mean the basic salary of a Medical Practitioner. Without the extras which most Doctors are pressed to do, neglecting their families and personal health. Go deeper into this. Look at the Mental health. Most do the overtime and work in rural areas simply because they cannot afford a middle class life. I mean those who avoid debt. South African Doctors are underpaid, if you look at normal 40 hrs a week job.
Hello, if they share it, we will publish it. There is no time in the video where it says this is what all doctors are earning. This channel publishes various professions. This is how we do it, and if it's not what you were looking for , you can politely ask for it, and someone will see your comment and share. Welcome to our village.
Welcome to our village, if information presented here is not what you were looking for, you may politely request for what you are looking for and if someone sees your comment, they might be kind enough and share it. We do not scream at each other and lose our temper. Read the room.
It’s actually “commuted overtime” almost all medical doctors do overtime,one has to to even justify if they would like to opt out.its done so to prevent shortages of doctors at night or over the weekends.they sign that mini contract annually. And overtime is almost 50% of their salary!
Boni overtime simple means shortage as this doctor cover extra hours of their normal routine working hours. This should be used as a requirement to hire extra doctors hence Tshepo is asking
I am shocked to see how comparatively little doctors earn. Most finance graduates with honours or Masters earn more than this without overtime. We work 8-10 hr days but if you have more than 5 years experience you earn more than doctors
Working a 36 hour shift is no joke. I dont understands the puropse of this post. How about sharing the salaries of other proffesionals. Lawyers, CEO's etc
This DOH is something else. When you contact one of them to ask in advance about placement just so you prepare yourself and know what to expect, they’ll discourage about applying outside of the state but yet tell you that there's no guarantee for placement as a bursary holder but youll need to give them at least three months before you start applying for private posts cause should they contact you for an offer and you cant take it then you should pay the bursary money back 🙄. So now what must people do, sit at home and wait for an unreliable government and when finally posts are vacant corrupt individuals are placed they decide to put ghost employees so they can put money back in their pockets. Yoh these people are wicked.
Eish, sorry for your experience. This must be frustrating and depressing. Some people don't understand why I'm singling out doctors situation while there are so many graduates with no jobs.
@@liferesetwithboni depends on which field you go into when you start working. We have CRA, Medical Writing, programming, and data management, and epidemiology. I never struggled getting a job because I always volunteered at school. You just have to do some volunteering jobs while studying so that you can use that as your experience or exposure.
@@nomafmaroga6827that’s really good. I’m just concerned that you seems to be referring to your own experience. does this apply to majority of people in your field of work? I’m asking because I have a daughter in high school and need to go guide her
@@lukealadeen7836 yes. It sounds easy but maybe our journey ain't the same. Maybe we should pray for our own growth and not look at other people. I am sorry if this feels like I'm lying. V
I spend 12 hrs at my home & Kids! enjoying every moment of life at the same time have time for God everyday without worries! money its useless when u spend half of your life chasing money! I don't say we don't need Doctors. We appreciate them.
I’d a Bachelor of Environmental Health at UJ, 2019-2022. Currently finalising my 1 year community service working in a Hospital ….Honestly I’m not happy, I’m depressed. The depression started 1st year but I thought maybe it’s the transition I’ll be fine….Nahh it’s the career choice ANDIKHO HEPI!
@@luxolo_bukazaThanks for not hiding your feelings about your career. I always preach to my peers about prioritizing passion and direction before money, status and other things when choosing a career. I always tell them and my self that anything is possible if you put your mind in it. Even if you don't qualify for ur coarse of choice go and repeat gr 12 if you can so that you can qualify, most do not listen. You have proven that it's possible to obtain a qualification and be not happy about ur work. With ur comment you just saved someone's future, there's someone right now who's not certain about his/her coarse but was thinking to insists and pursue it anyway.
Our government is really failing to plan for the future because all doctors are Registered. The database is available on annual basis of which it can help to plan for the future
Please check the video with health sciences salaries. Search Health Sciences salaries here and put my name. It should come up, and a grade 1 dentist is there
Not to be the devils advocate abt unemployed doctors. But govt is highly in debt and will need a lot more debt to keep running, while we still have a lack of electricity, lack of schools, lack of infrastructure in EC, and so on & so on. So the govt can’t just go all in on one thing, the little money thats there has to be shared
@@liferesetwithboni Thanks for responding Boni. Sadly, its the case and we’ll all hear it during the budget speech. But I think the NHI would solve some of the current problems, when it merges the funds in the private & public sector
I so wish you can find an industrial/ manufacturing Pharmacist pay slip because mmm the other disciplines is not make sure😢 but obviously can't compare them to Drs those are two different professions.😅
@@liferesetwithboni not exactly but look at what happened during covid, there unemployed doctors but they brought the Cuban doctors...why? That's 1 of the reasons I see why this problem persists.
You are far maybe be nearer to the camera plus the echo of your voice maybe get headsets and show us fully on the video while you explaining....but yooh this is South Africa
Hi guys! Hope you will enjoy this video, please consider subscribing if you havent already and like the video if you found value.
The whole video is about doctors so there is no need for a time stamp nut nonetheless here it is. 😊
00:00 Intro and what to expect.
00:59 Trainee Specialist doctor salary
02:10 Junior medical officer salary
03:06 Medical Intern salary
04:54 Medical Officer Specialist Grade 1 Salary
07:31 Community Service doctor salary
08:39 Intern Doctor Salary
09:47 A take on unemployed doctors in South Africa
12:35 Dentist Salary from a private hospital
Thanks for stopping by!❤
Working as a doctor in this country is so challenging the pay is good and some don’t mind overtime but the conditions are horrible and room for growth and specialising is so limited . The working conditions actually put you in danger in terms of losing your license due to malpractice cases
Heartbreaking 😭
How can we have unemployed doctors whereas we have a lot of foreign doctors in our hospitals?
I don't know
This is all nonsense. But when they canvass they say 'our people ' when they hire you no more their people
It doesn’t make sense to me,that time most of them are less skilled and incompetent!
@@nricomrmautla3226 maybe the department of health is outsourcing a cheap labour from them but this is upsetting truth be told. This government neglects even the people whos got a rare skill for the country.
Yes. We will have unemployed doctors and have foreign doctors in our hospitals. SA is in a self-destructive mode.
Doctors work really hard. Very hard. They have to get paid. I don't even thing they have time for fun, but it is good, if everyone worked like doctors the country would be far.
🙏
Especially junior Drs the hours are long
Everyone works hard, try working at a mine, and tell me otherwise
@SA_PASF guys this video is about doctors 😂
@@SA_PASFYour comparing digging around with a machine 24/7 to performing complex and timeless procedures?
I never thought a whole doctor unemployed, kuyathusa really...
Very scary to say the least. Imagine if you don't work for 2 years, by the time you get hired kuzobe sekunjani?
The government really need to improve the living conditions in rural areas for doctors.For rural communities sake.
I don't think we will ever get there. It's getting worse now.
The gynae is truly lucky to even get a post. A lot of medical specialists go to private because there are no posts for them in public when they qualify as specialists. It has been like that for years!
Wow! Our government is failing us . This is heartbreaking, the same as schools .
She did mention it that it's not easy to het placement.
Please do a video on salaries for the private hospitals
NP cash is non pensionable. Amount not subject to pension calculation
Thank you!
Tnx, you saved me the Google search
Fixed overtime here refers to after knock off time 4pm. Its when they are on call. I doubt it would be practical to hire doctor's that work only at night as their basic. Those who opt out of doing calls which is very rare don't get the fixed overtime. It referred to as fixed overtime coz its a fixed number of hours every month.
I get you! 👌
You do have doctors that only work at night... they are called sessional doctors and they get paid per hour
If people think this is extraordinary, they must do a 30hr shift x5/month and look at that salary again. Nizokhala tears 😢😢😢
Where?
Everywhere in public hospitals
The shifts are indeed ridiculous for the most part. But let’s be honest , it is not for All doctors . Some of them do calls from home , like radiologists .
Also , Consultants even for some of the busiest disciplines have it easier than the ones below them in rank.
The department of health clearly does not employ the smartest of people to run the department. Overtime is more costly than normal time, so why not employ more doctors to reduce the overall people cost? This will also reduce fatigue and the related errors which contribute to poor health care and even premature deaths in our country 😢
Noted
Overtime is roughly about 30k for the month ,employing another doctor to work those same hours would mean paying around 60-70k to that doctor,so it's essentially cheaper to overwork doctors rather than employ new ones cause they need to make the basic pay that other doctors make...(working laws )
@@fentsemoyana3198No, R30k/month/doctor if that. You would obviously not higher a doctor to work what would have been a single doctor’s overtime, but a number of them. Overtime is time and a half. Normal time is just time. If it were so much cheaper to higher less workers and pay more overtime, instead of more employees and less overtime then that is what the private sector would mostly do. Overtime is meant to fix a short term man power issue and not be the norm.
If they take out OT, what about calls? What happens in emergency and Night???
I’m not saying they should eliminate overtime, but if on average every doctor is working +/- R30k/month worth of it, yet there are plenty of unemployed doctors then there is something wrong with the system.
S.A Parents need to support/invest on the children to learn Math & Science (If kids are struggling, hire or ask for tutors)... thank me later!
This thing of focusing & making children DOMESTIC WORKERS in this day & age no longer works(we no longer preparing our kids for cleaning & gardening) is not sustainable for aBantu, gonna are those days. Energy must be directed at Education not Cleaning!
Valid point, I agree but hwo does it connect to the doctors situation? I'm a bit confused.
@@liferesetwithboni My sister... This might be a general comment, but the aim was to spark or prompt viewers/parents to start thinking differently if they want to see more of the next generation earning similar salaries, whether as a doctor, engineer, chartered accountant, scientist, etc.
Im supporting you boss look at Indian they are doctors, dentist ,engineers and IT or computer science/engineer they are educated they take education very seriously
@johnmarshall1599 okay thanks. 😊
@sifisonkonzo356 Okay, bhuti, I understand 😊
What is the salary , real earnings of a Medical Doctor in South Africa??
A Medical Doctor who does not want to do the most stressful overtime ? Then the Rural allowance? Meaning Doctors not working in the rural areas? From your calculations, that take the salary to R100k. About R40k is the overtime and rural allowance. The truth is the Salary of a Medical Practitioner in South Africa 🇿🇦 is R60k before tax and other
deductions. How can that be fare after 8years of study plus including etc. Dear come with the real truth. How many professionals earn much more than that??
What is the question? I'm not sure, I share payslips of people who shared them with me, that's all. It doesn't represent the whole profession.
@liferesetwithboni I mean the basic salary of a Medical Practitioner. Without the extras which most Doctors are pressed to do, neglecting their families and personal health. Go deeper into this. Look at the Mental health. Most do the overtime and work in rural areas simply because they cannot afford a middle class life. I mean those who avoid debt. South African Doctors are underpaid, if you look at normal 40 hrs a week job.
@lufuno, well stated.
You're right😊
Thank you 👏
Doctors earn a decent salary. 😊
🙏
It's not decent considering the number of years and the intense training. It's a disgrace that our DRs are subjected to such.
@mphomohlabula8164 Trust me it is, they were getting way less prior OSD
also consider the salary without fixed overtime and or rural allowance. Not all doctors are doing the overtime and getting rural allowance.
Very true. This is misleading!! Not the real truth.
Hello, if they share it, we will publish it. There is no time in the video where it says this is what all doctors are earning. This channel publishes various professions. This is how we do it, and if it's not what you were looking for , you can politely ask for it, and someone will see your comment and share. Welcome to our village.
Welcome to our village, if information presented here is not what you were looking for, you may politely request for what you are looking for and if someone sees your comment, they might be kind enough and share it. We do not scream at each other and lose our temper. Read the room.
It’s actually “commuted overtime” almost all medical doctors do overtime,one has to to even justify if they would like to opt out.its done so to prevent shortages of doctors at night or over the weekends.they sign that mini contract annually.
And overtime is almost 50% of their salary!
Why are Drs earning fixed overtime whilst others are unemployed?
Because you are already in the system, getting your benefits etc, I guess it's a way of saving money as well. I'm not 100% sure.
Boni overtime simple means shortage as this doctor cover extra hours of their normal routine working hours. This should be used as a requirement to hire extra doctors hence Tshepo is asking
@@liferesetwithboniHi Boni can you please do a video on those with business degrees more especially business administration if possible
It's cos the system is to exploit the already employed Dr's, it's cheaper to overwork the already imployed people
I am shocked to see how comparatively little doctors earn. Most finance graduates with honours or Masters earn more than this without overtime. We work 8-10 hr days but if you have more than 5 years experience you earn more than doctors
South Africa is a joke, why would you pay bursaries for people to study medicine but not have vocation work for doctors.
I don't know, and not everyone can just pack up and leave the country.
We need more info from the Dentist. Is he a specialist, or a general dentist? Also years of experience?
They didn't want to share much, just the fact that they work in private hospital and have surgeries.
Tjo, when i shela a lady and she tells me she is a doctor, i will ghost her and run away 😮! We are in wrong proffesions, people are balling out here!
What are you doing?
If you are an unemployed doctors, with traceable reference let me know, I have links to opportunities in Europe.
Its not worth working for state, cos the pay half tax and they take half. Better to be in private. Some doctors earn that fod a day.
Mmmm
Working a 36 hour shift is no joke. I dont understands the puropse of this post. How about sharing the salaries of other proffesionals. Lawyers, CEO's etc
Its cool if you don't understand and you haven't seen other professionals. It's all good. Stay blessed
They deserve lots of money cus they wrk so hard with lots of hrs and their course took so many yrs 6rys and more that's too much
True!
This DOH is something else. When you contact one of them to ask in advance about placement just so you prepare yourself and know what to expect, they’ll discourage about applying outside of the state but yet tell you that there's no guarantee for placement as a bursary holder but youll need to give them at least three months before you start applying for private posts cause should they contact you for an offer and you cant take it then you should pay the bursary money back 🙄. So now what must people do, sit at home and wait for an unreliable government and when finally posts are vacant corrupt individuals are placed they decide to put ghost employees so they can put money back in their pockets.
Yoh these people are wicked.
Eish, sorry for your experience. This must be frustrating and depressing. Some people don't understand why I'm singling out doctors situation while there are so many graduates with no jobs.
So if you remove the fixed overtime, doctors really earn peanuts.
Can you do a video on mechanical engineers in mining sector ,,,,,
Okay
Drs then don't earn. With BSc and just masters degree you can get 60-100k take home.
After struggling for how many years to get a job?
@@liferesetwithboni depends on which field you go into when you start working. We have CRA, Medical Writing, programming, and data management, and epidemiology. I never struggled getting a job because I always volunteered at school. You just have to do some volunteering jobs while studying so that you can use that as your experience or exposure.
@@nomafmaroga6827that’s really good. I’m just concerned that you seems to be referring to your own experience. does this apply to majority of people in your field of work? I’m asking because I have a daughter in high school and need to go guide her
@@nomafmaroga6827 just a bsc then Masters? You make it sound like it's easy...
@@lukealadeen7836 yes. It sounds easy but maybe our journey ain't the same. Maybe we should pray for our own growth and not look at other people. I am sorry if this feels like I'm lying. V
I spend 12 hrs at my home & Kids! enjoying every moment of life at the same time have time for God everyday without worries! money its useless when u spend half of your life chasing money! I don't say we don't need Doctors. We appreciate them.
Good for you 👍
I don't understand the importance of this as there are many unemployed , educated people.
And you don't have to.
Mna I’m going back to Grade 11 shem. I’m done with my first degree but I can see ndikhaphile emhlabeni…
Which degree is this?
I’d a Bachelor of Environmental Health at UJ, 2019-2022. Currently finalising my 1 year community service working in a Hospital ….Honestly I’m not happy, I’m depressed. The depression started 1st year but I thought maybe it’s the transition I’ll be fine….Nahh it’s the career choice ANDIKHO HEPI!
@@luxolo_bukazado gemp
@@luxolo_bukazaThanks for not hiding your feelings about your career. I always preach to my peers about prioritizing passion and direction before money, status and other things when choosing a career. I always tell them and my self that anything is possible if you put your mind in it. Even if you don't qualify for ur coarse of choice go and repeat gr 12 if you can so that you can qualify, most do not listen. You have proven that it's possible to obtain a qualification and be not happy about ur work. With ur comment you just saved someone's future, there's someone right now who's not certain about his/her coarse but was thinking to insists and pursue it anyway.
@@luxolo_bukazaconsider doing GEMP at WITS especially because you already have a degree
NP cash is Non Pensionable cash allowance if you are not with GEPF
Our government is really failing to plan for the future because all doctors are Registered. The database is available on annual basis of which it can help to plan for the future
🙏
You just got yourself new follower, i love your Content girl🤗
Thank you ❤️
Pls boni share another grade 1 dentist salary with at least 1 year of experience
Please check the video with health sciences salaries. Search Health Sciences salaries here and put my name. It should come up, and a grade 1 dentist is there
Not to be the devils advocate abt unemployed doctors. But govt is highly in debt and will need a lot more debt to keep running, while we still have a lack of electricity, lack of schools, lack of infrastructure in EC, and so on & so on.
So the govt can’t just go all in on one thing, the little money thats there has to be shared
Hey, I get your point, so it's like nurses and teachers now, no budget, but classes are overcrowded, we need nurses, but there is no budget.
But for useless tenders money is there and incomplete projects that they don’t even investigate, in order to recoup the funds!
@@liferesetwithboni Thanks for responding Boni. Sadly, its the case and we’ll all hear it during the budget speech. But I think the NHI would solve some of the current problems, when it merges the funds in the private & public sector
@@comfortlee1418bigger pool of money does not solve the problem. It just means more to eat from.
Its mot worth working for state, private practice is better.
Mmm
South African doctors are severely underpaid😢
Artisan are the best they just do n2 3month than they earn the same amount as a doctor
With overtime
Not true, maybe you are referring to an unqualified artisan
Are these monthly or yearly salaries?
MONTHLY 🤣
I so wish you can find an industrial/ manufacturing Pharmacist pay slip because mmm the other disciplines is not make sure😢 but obviously can't compare them to Drs those are two different professions.😅
🤣🤣🤣I haven't received one yet
Now I understand how some people could build their nkandla
Amen!
My salary is higher than all of these doctors. I’m working as a teacher in the UAE.
The cost of living is extremely high in the UAE compared to South Africa. I think they have a good deal here.
Salaries are very attractive😊
🙏
And these figures aren't the same across all grades. MOs are graded 1, 2, 3.
Also specialists are graded like that.
Your figures are for Grade 1.
Been looking at all your content, didn't see Paramedic one!
It's coming in February. EMS salaries.
Sis Boni, please do one for Bioinformatician🥺
maybe someone will share it with us, I dont have it at the moment.
There is money....but it goes to repaying Cuba 😔. There are Cuban mechanics in the defence force bit why aren't they hiring unemployed local mechnics.
They have to employ Cuban doctors?
@@liferesetwithboni not exactly but look at what happened during covid, there unemployed doctors but they brought the Cuban doctors...why? That's 1 of the reasons I see why this problem persists.
A N C deal with Cuba.
Huge amounts of monies❓️❓️❓️ Can we afford to pay these salaries❓️
I don't know 😕
Sis Boni can we have more of Dentist's payslips 🙏
Hi. Which information do you need and I'll go and ask them.
@@liferesetwithboni Their entry level salary and intern dentists salaries though i heard they don't have community service which I'm not sure of
@khanyisanimngadi8955 They don't have internship, it's only community service
Yooooh we accompanied doctors here
And IT specialists
Artisans sisi yhoo 🤣
Hi are these private hospital doctors or are they government hospiral doctors ?
Only government doctors sent their payslips, and the only private doctor here is the dentist.
Hi boni...how can I contact you and share my payslip and other relevant information to inform the public out there?
Xaba.bonisile@gmail.com
Thank you .. will send through by the end of business on Friday 🙏
hey boni, email sent, get ready for the story!!!
@@liferesetwithboni
When are you dropping the one for animal health technician
I've done it on Tik Tok.. I'll look for it and share a link with you. I can't do it here cos there are no related payslips for a whole video.
Love your videos hey
Thank you so much ❤️
What kind of jobs do u qualify for when having a A+ Entry level certificate?
IT Support
You are far maybe be nearer to the camera plus the echo of your voice maybe get headsets and show us fully on the video while you explaining....but yooh this is South Africa
Askies for the unpleasant experience, but which part should I show more?
I have work for them... Agape love
Who do you have to work for?
@@liferesetwithboni the Drs who don't have a job, and basically anyone who needs a fruitful career
Gynaecologist’s payslip is not make sure. net of 71k🤔
How come bhuti?🤣
For sure, should be higher...
Deductions and medical aid hat people choose. I know people that pay 12k on medical aids
It's a junior specialist, someone who just qualified and also govy doesn't pay hence why they go private. Those ones are balling
❤
Podiatrist
Haven't seen one.
Yooooh we accompanied doctors here
🤣🤣🤣
not really