How to Live Forever in SSBM

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2020
  • Through the use of multiple physics exploits, the player on the receiving end of a high knockback attack can cause an unintended sequence of events and survive until astronomical percents.
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  • @antlerman1357
    @antlerman1357 4 роки тому +743

    "By performing a TDI floor hug, then techrolling, then using 8 spotdodges..."
    If I see anything like this in a real game I would go insane lmao

    • @HeyItzMeDawg
      @HeyItzMeDawg 4 роки тому +77

      Y'know, I read the comments before I watched the video and I thought you were meming there with that "8 spot dodges" at the end...

    • @SupBroLetsChill
      @SupBroLetsChill 4 роки тому +27

      Right?! Imagine this in grands at a major. I would lose my shit.

    • @Weyk47
      @Weyk47 4 роки тому +40

      SupBroLetsChill Borp is gonna come back and be a god,.

    • @calacatchy
      @calacatchy 4 роки тому +16

      Weyk47 borp was ahead of his time

    • @Berlinwood27
      @Berlinwood27 4 роки тому +3

      lowkey like daigo parry but can get blown up p easily lmao

  • @DareToShine
    @DareToShine 4 роки тому +391

    Isai "Don't get hit"
    Hax " Don't die"

  • @MyAce8
    @MyAce8 4 роки тому +310

    "what percent does fox Nair kill falcon again?"
    hax: "no"

    • @tilnation14
      @tilnation14 4 роки тому +8

      Nair kills at 2??%, down smash is the one that doesn't ever kill.

  • @Faulheit
    @Faulheit 4 роки тому +670

    the year is 2020, frame perfect taunts are the optimal strategy

    • @JuliuSeizure
      @JuliuSeizure 4 роки тому +4

      change to 20XX for more likes

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI 4 роки тому +2

      Oh damn 20XX is legit 2020, so we've finally made it to the year everyone was memeing about
      And the crazy thing is, we weren't that far from what's actually happening

    • @JuliuSeizure
      @JuliuSeizure 4 роки тому +2

      @@equinox-XVI but when peaople talk about ness timelines the say 20XX or 19XX meaning 19th or 18th century

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI 4 роки тому +2

      @@JuliuSeizure well yeah, but it's fun to break the rules a little and say the year is written in numbers and Roman numerals

    • @antoniogamer5590
      @antoniogamer5590 4 роки тому +1

      @@equinox-XVI my boy Roy won a major

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 4 роки тому +520

    "Did he just walk up slowly, and downsmash? He did, he really did though, but Fox floorhug teched followed by two spotdodges, tumbled to ledge then ledgedashed and waveshined him across the stage into upsmash"
    Yo Mango, are you gonna let him do that to you?

    • @alexkfridges
      @alexkfridges 4 роки тому +7

      Top tier comment

    • @bruceU
      @bruceU 4 роки тому +9

      "he really did though. he really did."

    • @nickb8755
      @nickb8755 4 роки тому

      Is that you Dave-O?

    • @sleepyavenue5572
      @sleepyavenue5572 4 роки тому +1

      This is the best comment to ever exist

  • @LazyLee
    @LazyLee 4 роки тому +445

    when falcon hugs the floor, it's "tech"
    when i do it, it's "depression"

    • @yakovhadash
      @yakovhadash 4 роки тому +8

      m o o d

    • @nizzwarb764
      @nizzwarb764 2 роки тому

      Pressure tech and depression tech
      Wombo combo

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 4 роки тому +288

    Based on the title I just assumed Hax found a way to upload his consciousness onto a GameCube memory card.

    • @joelmankinen
      @joelmankinen 4 роки тому +3

      best comment i've seen in a while

    • @Bones0
      @Bones0 4 роки тому

      What do you think the next video is for?

    • @jakexdilla
      @jakexdilla 4 роки тому

      mans is making an irl version of the forge from westworld

    • @Slashtap
      @Slashtap 3 роки тому

      I'm screaming

    • @GinjouArmy
      @GinjouArmy 3 роки тому

      That is dumb.... especially since he already did that but instead he used the BOX.

  • @GimR
    @GimR 4 роки тому +165

    Awesome stuff once again!

    • @jonasrivers3675
      @jonasrivers3675 4 роки тому +1

      How come you don't make smash videos anymore?

    • @clutchedbyanangel
      @clutchedbyanangel 4 роки тому +12

      @@jonasrivers3675 It's been one week, relax

    • @jonasrivers3675
      @jonasrivers3675 4 роки тому +1

      @@clutchedbyanangel I just went through all the videos public on the channel, I don't think he ever did tbh.

    • @mike.semark
      @mike.semark 4 роки тому

      @@jonasrivers3675 he literally made a video a week ago

    • @xue1379
      @xue1379 4 роки тому

      @@mike.semark dafuq are you blind

  • @ConnorRentz
    @ConnorRentz 4 роки тому +228

    Hope this makes competitive play much more ridiculous. Here's a fun fact about editing this one: The very last change to this video was made the night before this came out around 3 AM. We just changed a single coordinate in one image.

    • @zelda489
      @zelda489 4 роки тому +17

      Love the dedication, you can feel the love that has been poured into every single one of these videos. Always looking forward to them.

  • @JasonPegis
    @JasonPegis 4 роки тому +57

    Big “Half an A-Press” vibes and I love it. Incredible and valuable content for the community.

    • @Tentaclear1
      @Tentaclear1 4 роки тому +3

      Next video is about how to enter PUs to survive fox’s nair

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 4 роки тому +65

    ah yes, Plot armor as a mechnic

  • @Rom0.5
    @Rom0.5 4 роки тому +129

    I can't wait to see people taunting at the edge of the stage to survive. It's going to be the hypest piece of tech ever.
    I think Hax you just changed the game with that video. Great content, it's mind blowing as always.

    • @lucherren9871
      @lucherren9871 4 роки тому +12

      and a taunt would be even more of a flex cause its frame prefect ;D

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI 4 роки тому +6

      If someone survives a hit at 300+%, asdi-tdi techrolls into a frame perfect taunt, I dont care how good you are, you gotta unplug your controller after that

  • @DarkwingDuc
    @DarkwingDuc 4 роки тому +6

    Holy shit, I remember Ice talking about this technique a couple of years ago and I can specifically recall him talking about having to taunt to prevent your character from falling offstage.

  • @michaelcastelpoggi1735
    @michaelcastelpoggi1735 4 роки тому +44

    I can't wait to see top players spotdodging 3 times at the ledge just to get upsmashed by the other player

    • @GD-ev7tp
      @GD-ev7tp 4 роки тому +14

      But a mixup would be to spotdodge only enough times to reduce traction (or velocity) so it no longer kills you, then recover normally. Admittedly still puts you in edgeguard/ledgetrap situation but it's better than the previously guaranteed death.
      Jesus imagine this mastered truly 20XX BS then XD
      Oh shi and could you do a frame perfect jump off ledge to maximize your recovery? :O

    • @ChamplooMusashi
      @ChamplooMusashi 4 роки тому +4

      The reason Hax is recommending spot dodging is cause there is a 1 frame window for normal inputs, but spot dodges can be buffered in a 4 frame window and chained in such a fashion. A much more practical but more precise option is to use another grounded move with just enough frames to allow for survival but not for a punish if the spot dodge would last too long.

    • @kianjelogiorgio1713
      @kianjelogiorgio1713 4 роки тому

      At least it gives you a chance

    • @jesusalc1421
      @jesusalc1421 4 роки тому

      ChamplooMusashi like what other move? I feel like spot dodge is the only option every other grounded attack would have more lag

    • @rakkatytam
      @rakkatytam 4 роки тому

      @@jesusalc1421 what about jabs?

  • @DoubleCFiend
    @DoubleCFiend 4 роки тому +34

    I thought "live forever" was an exaggeration until I saw the clip at 12:20

  • @Faulheit
    @Faulheit 4 роки тому +51

    wait you're telling me that falcons spotdodge was actually good all along

  • @herbmaaster
    @herbmaaster 4 роки тому +129

    don't downsmash me or my son ever again

    • @Ayyem93
      @Ayyem93 4 роки тому +1

      Some memes deserve to come back after a while good on ya m8

  • @Xrelent
    @Xrelent 4 роки тому +3

    Fun facts:
    - Your momentum is cancelled if you edge teeter. So Peach's dsmash and Doc's dtilt don't even need the taunt or spot dodge.
    - Due to ECB updates, Falcon's knee is almost impossible (except for Puff and 4 low-tiers) to Amsah tech when fresh or partially staled. It requires a frame perfect (1 extra frame leniency when fresh) SDI with a precise angle that depends on your damage.

  • @rarebeeph1783
    @rarebeeph1783 3 роки тому +3

    imagine playing fox, you nair this falcon while he's at 180 and you're like "he's so dead" and he just fuckin rolls across the stage, goes "show me your moves," and sends your ass to the blast zone

  • @kurlZz
    @kurlZz 4 роки тому +6

    "There's so much more Melee to be played"

  • @jamespalsson746
    @jamespalsson746 4 роки тому +15

    Ah, I understand. You can spot dodge with the c-stick as well as the analog stick.

  • @argonaww
    @argonaww 4 роки тому +18

    Thank you Hax, very cool!

  • @guitarwithjamesoffical
    @guitarwithjamesoffical 4 роки тому +26

    9:24 no hax I’m honestly a bit lost. 😭

  • @zachbolotaulo7513
    @zachbolotaulo7513 4 роки тому +49

    leave it to hax to create a new tech when i thought i learned everything from melee

    • @AtlasMillerViolin
      @AtlasMillerViolin 4 роки тому +17

      Thinking u have learned everything was ur first mistake friend

    • @FortWhenTeaThyme
      @FortWhenTeaThyme 4 роки тому +7

      This tech is about 14 years old.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 4 роки тому +2

      This one is certainly old news. It's in TASes from ages ago. Good breakdown though and shows where and when it might be feasible.

  • @benzen5190
    @benzen5190 4 роки тому +2

    Not only did i learn an extremely complicated tech, I also learned you can spotdodge with Cstick. Now that’s value.

  • @versutus2699
    @versutus2699 4 роки тому +11

    I can imagine TDI floorhugging becoming a new important tech to grind and practice. Thank you for revolutionizing 2020 melee Hax

    • @samerfaizi2914
      @samerfaizi2914 4 роки тому +6

      It's called an Amsah tech bro, it's been important tech for a long time.

    • @iggelitoGamingHD
      @iggelitoGamingHD 4 роки тому +2

      @@samerfaizi2914 Ye but spotdodging making you grab ledge+ be invinsibel is game changing tho

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 4 роки тому +4

    i've played this game for almost 20 years, and i consistently am surprised and amazed at the level of bullshittery and awesomeness that it exudes. melee is fucking sick.

  • @VergilSFD
    @VergilSFD 4 роки тому

    This brought a tear to my eye.
    Thank you.

  • @wolfd95
    @wolfd95 4 роки тому +1

    You do great work, sir. Thank your for your service.

  • @WgZpazo
    @WgZpazo 4 роки тому +1

    This is some insane shit. Every melee vid I see you post has taught me more about the game than I ever imagined. Props to you.

  • @Magcargo96
    @Magcargo96 4 роки тому +1

    Love this type of content, please keep it up! It’s incredibly informative. I never knew the tumble % differed per character. I wish Smash Ultimate players would make content like this.

  • @zipar3132
    @zipar3132 4 роки тому

    This is beautiful. Thank you for using CF and Fox.

  • @math_u6332
    @math_u6332 4 роки тому +14

    Normal Winnie the Pooh: Amsah Tech
    Fancy Winnie the Pooh: TDI Floorhug

  • @NaJk93
    @NaJk93 4 роки тому +2

    I just see a fox down smashing a Falcon. Falcon floor hugs, tech rolls, does three spot dodges.
    The fox grabbed the ledge during Falcons roll and rockcrocks his recovery anyway lol.

  • @Young-bx2pf
    @Young-bx2pf 4 роки тому +13

    So a TDI floorhug tech is the same thing as a amsah tech, right?

  • @dereklewis4321
    @dereklewis4321 4 роки тому +4

    The depth of Melee is insane. Moral of the story, work 18 hour days and get the thing done in 10 months for the perfect fighting game.

  • @Suckmycog
    @Suckmycog 4 роки тому +8

    Just watched the whole video and I dont even play Melee, epic

  • @SheeshFr
    @SheeshFr 4 роки тому

    Thank you for making this.

  • @09cf
    @09cf 3 роки тому

    these need so much more attention, my god

  • @beatsbyxdrumzzx4485
    @beatsbyxdrumzzx4485 4 роки тому

    yo this video is sick. i lost it after the falcon taunted to double root himself on stage. def gonna start using this.

  • @rented1102
    @rented1102 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks Professor Hax, very cool.

  • @seblingtonw
    @seblingtonw 4 роки тому

    I'm not even into melee much (too old to play properly) but I sub just for the knowledge, it's impressive and very well presented, good job aziz

  • @saraskyline8331
    @saraskyline8331 4 роки тому

    Jesus the amount of effort put into all these videos

  • @wraith4978
    @wraith4978 4 роки тому +2

    although a follow up to the d-smash might've been a good option for fox, falcon is able to mix up his rooting with a punch, a taunt and a dodge. i await the day in which this is common knowledge and everyone plays like anime fights.

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 4 роки тому

      The problem is that all three of those options can be easily covered by a charged upsmash or grab.

  • @XK49
    @XK49 Місяць тому

    Can you imagine a falcon spot dodging in front of you 4 times in a row. I wouldn’t even try to follow up. I’d just watch the show

  • @JonnyfromElma
    @JonnyfromElma 4 роки тому +2

    Every time Hax uploads a youtube vid, Uncle Punch lets out a deep sigh.

  • @Slashtap
    @Slashtap 3 роки тому +1

    My friends tried to teach me double stick DI in 07 and now it finally makes sense

  • @salvatore_slate
    @salvatore_slate 4 роки тому

    incredible

  • @Austin_In_Chains
    @Austin_In_Chains 4 роки тому

    This is just bananas

  • @trikronika
    @trikronika 4 роки тому

    As evident, hax dollar has left the physical world to live out the quarantine inside Melee's game code.

  • @williamwilliam4944
    @williamwilliam4944 4 роки тому

    Incredible

  • @SheepHairOG
    @SheepHairOG 4 роки тому +1

    I'm very surprised he didn't mention how this tech is referred to as amsah teching by the community, or how you can fastfall and grab ledge after doing it. I don't know if it works all the time or if your knockback has to be reduced to a certain amount, but as Falcon I feel like you'd almost always want to grab ledge then ledgehop back with an invincible move or ledgedash rather than any of the options he has to stay onstage.

  • @imgayasheck595
    @imgayasheck595 4 роки тому +2

    Aziz "Singularity" Al-Yami

  • @iskamag
    @iskamag 4 роки тому +2

    melee is floor gang confirmed

  • @thecakeofreason
    @thecakeofreason 4 роки тому +5

    Can't wait to see Wizzy surviving nairs and d-smashes infinitely in tournament

  • @maxnul
    @maxnul 4 роки тому +1

    I clicked the video 16 seconds after you posted you bet I'm watching the next one

  • @oscarm6990
    @oscarm6990 4 роки тому

    we're working at home during quarantine, while hax is writing his thesis

  • @PersonOfBlah
    @PersonOfBlah 4 роки тому

    You can reduce the number of spotdodges you need to perform by inputting a fast fall then letting go to quickly snap to ledge even with a bunch of momentum.

  • @Azzucips
    @Azzucips 4 роки тому

    Also worth noting that you can fast fall to ledge if your x kbv isn’t too high

  • @equilateral1532
    @equilateral1532 4 роки тому

    Do you ever consider adding background music to your videos? Great stuff as always Hax$

  • @CharlesLeak
    @CharlesLeak 4 роки тому +1

    I don't even play, I just love seeing the depth in this game. It's so cool to see that this game is still being advanced.

    • @HighDeafRadio
      @HighDeafRadio 4 роки тому

      Same lol

    • @jakezepeda1267
      @jakezepeda1267 4 роки тому

      I do the same thing with other games.
      But its a gateway drug

    • @CharlesLeak
      @CharlesLeak 4 роки тому

      Actually, I was inspired to play again today.

    • @jakezepeda1267
      @jakezepeda1267 4 роки тому

      @@CharlesLeak awesome :D

  • @lucasmiddleton485
    @lucasmiddleton485 4 роки тому

    Dude 21.900 subscribers, 21.055 views; almost every subscriber watches your videos. You're SICK!!

  • @zachstarattack7320
    @zachstarattack7320 4 роки тому

    Ur insane bruh

  • @michaeljacobs5059
    @michaeljacobs5059 4 роки тому

    The year is 20XX, matches are decided by whichever Fox out floorhug techs the other to death.

  • @Dendearts
    @Dendearts 4 роки тому

    in the year 20XX fox's down smash will never kill falcon (mind blown)

  • @LovelyToaster
    @LovelyToaster 4 роки тому

    so wait are analog stick spotdodge universaly bufferable ie you can input them 4 frames before ~any~ grounded action ends to get the frame perfect one?

  • @Lampaluile
    @Lampaluile 4 роки тому

    actual knowledge bomb by hax

  • @ukuleletodd
    @ukuleletodd 4 роки тому

    Insane

  • @Zafraud
    @Zafraud 4 роки тому +1

    Is there any way to figure what moves have the rooted property for characters so I know what options I have with different characters?

  • @Doth_
    @Doth_ 4 роки тому

    These videos have been helping me understand so much. Also marths grab can root him lol. Is there anything else that can be buffered besides spotdodge? I assume not cuz you didn't talk about it but I gotta ask anyway

  • @Mahamaru
    @Mahamaru 4 роки тому +1

    Ultimate has more rooting than the amazon rainforest

  • @lucagacy
    @lucagacy 4 роки тому

    Holy shit this an amazing video

  • @mcfam8657
    @mcfam8657 4 роки тому

    Hax$ is one of the biggest ssbm nerds and it's awesome

  • @NarokathCrimzonAE
    @NarokathCrimzonAE 4 роки тому

    That was insane to see Falcon survive at 999%

  • @hgt_sr7034
    @hgt_sr7034 3 роки тому

    In doubles you could nair Luigi into taunt spike for the sickest team combo

  • @ImagzSniping
    @ImagzSniping 4 роки тому

    This shit goin way over my head

  • @IcyFlameDragon
    @IcyFlameDragon 4 роки тому

    Prometheus bringing us the fire of the gods

  • @ln8496
    @ln8496 4 роки тому

    Cant wait to do this with sheik needles

  • @juliosnap
    @juliosnap 4 роки тому

    Sick shit Hax I love you. But I gotta let you know that the emphasis in "airborne" is on the first syllable. Like AIRborne instead of airBORNE

  • @bren4822
    @bren4822 4 роки тому

    thx hax

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt 4 роки тому +2

    hey hax ur handsome

  • @math_u6332
    @math_u6332 4 роки тому +3

    What is the main difference between a tdi floorhug and an amsah tech? From my experience, you get the same
    result just by doing an amsah tech and then fast falling right when you slide off stage to immediately grab the ledge.

    • @nothanksthough
      @nothanksthough 4 роки тому +5

      The first half of this video is really just explaining amsah teching in depth calling it something else

    • @alexanderbateman5581
      @alexanderbateman5581 4 роки тому +1

      Lmao literally nothing

  • @Raddishist
    @Raddishist 4 роки тому

    God

  • @goingonlylogical
    @goingonlylogical 4 роки тому

    I feel like this is just going into the technical background for the Amsah tech...

  • @schrettvette4884
    @schrettvette4884 4 роки тому +1

    Can characters with a neutral charging special move like mewtwo or Samus just hold charge until releasing to live forever instead of doing multiple spot dodges?

  • @SuperBugCatcher
    @SuperBugCatcher 4 роки тому

    Hax found the melee fountain of youth...

  • @Jn64lover
    @Jn64lover 4 роки тому +3

    Melee is amazing holy shit

  • @maxnul
    @maxnul 4 роки тому +1

    Yessirr

  • @rguez2332
    @rguez2332 4 роки тому

    Is there a list of tumble %s of each character??? Where can i get it?

  • @Luna-Lux
    @Luna-Lux 4 роки тому

    OPTIMAL TAUNTING

  • @magicredrock
    @magicredrock 4 роки тому

    Quick question:
    Say you are down smashing a sheik after she recovers on stage and she hits tdi, tech rolls, and starts performing spotdodges to root herself/ cancel the momentum. While she is spot dodging, can you just put out a lingering hitbox over her vulnerability at the end of her 2nd spotdodge and kill her no matter what because she already pressed L to spotdodge previously? I could have something wrong here but wouldnt it be more optimal to aim for the 1 frame taunt input because then you get 100 frames of being rooted and then only have to try to tech the opponent's move on reaction?

  • @speckwii
    @speckwii 4 роки тому

    This is gonna change the meta Hax

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 4 роки тому

    Mango wasn't wrong. There is still some melee to be played.

  • @blueblah18
    @blueblah18 4 роки тому

    ok but at what percents can we TDI floor hug Specifically Zain's Roy's D-tilt?

  • @Masaru_kun
    @Masaru_kun Рік тому +1

    People learn your percents and then cry when I CC and continue to tech you anyway

  • @srk99x
    @srk99x 4 роки тому

    During tech roll towards ledge, couldn't you just mash jab to buffer jab before you fly off stage?

  • @gabbewettby3888
    @gabbewettby3888 4 роки тому

    What's the frame window to input a tech? When should I do it?

  • @reobinbe
    @reobinbe 4 роки тому +2

    i have never heard anybody say july like hax$

  • @Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr
    @Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr 4 роки тому +1

    There's still a lot of Melee left to play.

  • @chikin8895
    @chikin8895 4 роки тому

    I fall sleep to this