already nerfed? thats not how the frost trap in the last phase is supposed to work no? its supposed to explode when way to many people are stacked, there should be 3 groups in a triangle
aren't the icepatch supposed to explode if more than 8 people are stacked in it? Unless you spread in a perfect triangle then you can fit 24 but it didn't look like people were spread in groups of 8
why? Classic players have proved multiple times that they can't handle difficult content, they give up. Imagine releasing prenerfed firelands, people would stop in 2 weeks and go play classic classic or sod. The easier the content is, the more players play it. With difficult content comes gatekeeping from the community and half the playerbase can't do anything. On the other hand, once you make certain specs that are played by casuals easier to raid with (recent example was ret paladin in retail), suddenly participation skyrockets. Yeah I would love to do ragnaros pre-nerf again, up to a certain point. I don't have the patience to do 300 wipes on a 15 minute fight that is honestly quite simple in terms of mechanics (for today's standards). There's a reason retail only got 6-9 minutes long fights and they change every 2-3 minutes atleast.
@@aerosmithfan1991 You can't really buy the clears in classic though. Atleast in Gehennas (the most populated realm in eu), I don''t see any boosts going around except some guilds selling mouints from togc/lk back in wotlk. The only thing you can do is GDKP but then if you don't pull your weight , you don't get your cut and you are replaced as well.
Hard for there to be any with a new retail expansion underway. But imo with firelands likely coming out sometime in october it gives enough breathing room after retail launch such that i think a good number of people will return to/engage with cata for the release of the firelands
@@shindigg672atleast for me I’d need to have a good guild for me to return to classic but kinda hard when you have zero classic logs and only logs from retail
Cata has been completely taken apart firelands was the HARDEST shit back in 2014 and you guys already nuked heroic thats insane tbh. Nothing in Dragon Soul comes close imo to the difficulty of firelands so the game is already finished before it started lol😂
Why you play with no health bars is boggling my mind......feels like you are screwing yourself. 1how do u know what add you are targeting, and 2 you obviously cant attack the add with the lowest health cause ya can't see it. xD
This doesnt look good for Classic Cata Firelands 25HC. Original Firelands 25HC Ragnaros : 290,5 Mil HP Hits bit harder Frost Patches can get Geysered (need to seperate raid in 3 groups and slowly move in).
throwback, "i dont like calling you street"
Was expecting geysers, quite disappointed it didn't have that mechanism. Blizz, bring it back!
Great vid, I am doing some write ups and research for my guild, would it be possible to get logs for these raids?
I cant wait to do this boss
yeah if they release this nerfed version it will be the final nail in the coffin for cata classic... such a joke
Hearing those parry sounds physically hurst every time
already nerfed? thats not how the frost trap in the last phase is supposed to work no? its supposed to explode when way to many people are stacked, there should be 3 groups in a triangle
Hey! How do you stun adds at 2:36? O.o
The sons are susceptible to all cc except slows
aren't the icepatch supposed to explode if more than 8 people are stacked in it?
Unless you spread in a perfect triangle then you can fit 24 but it didn't look like people were spread in groups of 8
It was nerfed after the fist/second kill, don't need to make a triangle anymore.
@@dudenumber99 my guild killed the boss a few months after the world first and we still had to do this mechanic... nerf came pretty late into the tier
@@Flavio311291 ah my bad. I just remember rag kept getting chain gutted. I don't remember what was when.
@@dudenumber99 You remember wrong. Approximately 400 guilds killed it before Dragonsoul.
logs for this boss?
You will never experience the pain we had in the OG. This is like play tetris level 1
brother tetris is before my time
Nerfed content, such a joke
max range ready to dance
dont stay in red and kill adds, got it
GG! Could you share the logs please?
sorry our logs are private!
It’s a joke without the geysers in p4
Surprised this died on PTR and not Heroic Lich King.
Heroic LK did die on the PTR but I think the guilds that killed it made their kills private. We also got a nerfed version of rag
@@shindigg672RIP
it's because they used a nerfed version of ragnaros hc... 246m instead of 290m life, adds have less health and geysirs don't spawn in p4
can you share your weakauras settings?
my ptr char is extremely barebones. i have the luxthos dk weakaura pack and for encounter warnings/timers we used the fojji firelands pack.
Frost DK top of the meters
xD, your dream
imagine no flame geyser, classic is way easier than private servers lmao
Hope they release the prenerf
wow classic players arnt good enough for prenerf content
why? Classic players have proved multiple times that they can't handle difficult content, they give up. Imagine releasing prenerfed firelands, people would stop in 2 weeks and go play classic classic or sod. The easier the content is, the more players play it. With difficult content comes gatekeeping from the community and half the playerbase can't do anything. On the other hand, once you make certain specs that are played by casuals easier to raid with (recent example was ret paladin in retail), suddenly participation skyrockets.
Yeah I would love to do ragnaros pre-nerf again, up to a certain point. I don't have the patience to do 300 wipes on a 15 minute fight that is honestly quite simple in terms of mechanics (for today's standards). There's a reason retail only got 6-9 minutes long fights and they change every 2-3 minutes atleast.
It's not "classic" players that can't do it, it's simply the impatience and the ideology of why struggle when I can buy the clears with gold/money
@@aerosmithfan1991 You can't really buy the clears in classic though. Atleast in Gehennas (the most populated realm in eu), I don''t see any boosts going around except some guilds selling mouints from togc/lk back in wotlk. The only thing you can do is GDKP but then if you don't pull your weight , you don't get your cut and you are replaced as well.
They won’t release it as it was pixel perfect stacking on the geysers and not many guilds saw it
Damn, Firelands is going to just be the nail in the coffin of Classic huh 😢 The hype for this tier is nonexistent
Hard for there to be any with a new retail expansion underway. But imo with firelands likely coming out sometime in october it gives enough breathing room after retail launch such that i think a good number of people will return to/engage with cata for the release of the firelands
@@shindigg672atleast for me I’d need to have a good guild for me to return to classic but kinda hard when you have zero classic logs and only logs from retail
Lol no geyser
Cata has been completely taken apart firelands was the HARDEST shit back in 2014 and you guys already nuked heroic thats insane tbh. Nothing in Dragon Soul comes close imo to the difficulty of firelands so the game is already finished before it started lol😂
He? Cata firelands is 29e9493 old content😂😂😂😂 it is a Remake...
No geyser kekw, seems like ez shit
Sad, the content is nerfed to the ground
dd
imagine keeping logs private on a rerelease of an old game. cope
Why you play with no health bars is boggling my mind......feels like you are screwing yourself. 1how do u know what add you are targeting, and 2 you obviously cant attack the add with the lowest health cause ya can't see it. xD
My UI is indeed very scuffed on the PTR
This doesnt look good for Classic Cata Firelands 25HC.
Original Firelands 25HC Ragnaros :
290,5 Mil HP
Hits bit harder
Frost Patches can get Geysered (need to seperate raid in 3 groups and slowly move in).