What Happened To The White American NBA Star? | PTFO
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Rex Chapman, former Great White Hope and author of the new memoir "It's Hard for Me to Live with Me," traces the fading of an endangered sports species, from his personal history as a basketball prodigy in the American South to the rise of the international game.
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The listing of endangered species leading up to the topic was pretty funny.
Pablo is a psy. White dudes are starting to take over sports. Even sprinting
Great show, Rex comes off as a sincere, good guy, I wish him peace and happiness. Poignant denouement as well !
I didn't realize until long after Rex's career how much I like him as a human being. He is an amazing, deep-thinking individual.
He’s great on twitter
I live literally right next to Apollo High School. He is a legend here.
tom chambers had bounce
Paul Westphal was a physical specimen.He had a tomahawk dunk that was great.
I see what you did there…
Very ambidextrous, used both hands well.
Consistently putting out some of the best content. Thank you!
Great witnessing a professional interview. Pablo ask great questions and only interjects when needed to add to the interview. So good!
Donte Divincenzo should make the list.
White people don't like him 😂😂😂 he is the best one a killer and they hate mac mcclung they even hate they own folks😂😂
Domantis Sabonis... I get why you'd think he wasn't American, but he was born in Portland.
@@JayB-xx5pkthats what I said. And Austin reaves just had a career year. He is great also.
Rex, sporting the CHICO'S BAIL BONDS shirt!
Let freedom ring! 🔔
thank you both for putting so many important points that needed saying into
this one seriously thoughtful and entertaining conversation. well done.
Great podcast, thanks for raising this topic and all its complexities. New appreciation for Rex Chapmen. very interesting
Dude, this is such a good interview. Chapman is a great listen, and you're a damn good interviewer.
I agree with Rex. I'm 6'8" tall and I absolutely loved playing basketball when I was a kid. I was pretty good, and my dream was to play in the NBA. Everybody told me it wasn't going to happen and that it was a stupid dream. I have done pretty well for myself but I wonder how different my life might have been if I had been encouraged.
They saved you less than 5 percent of basketball players make the nba
@@CtFletcher-eg5zj I probably would have never been NBA good, but it would have been really nice to graduate college without student loans
@@Psaurus81 😭😂😂 ain’t that the truth
What happened to the Native and Black NHL stars?! (Fun fact - the NHL was started by Native and Black hockey players)
The NHL was NOT started by Black and Native players. You gave no idea what you're talking about.
@@geraldfarr8279 In the early 1800s, British soldiers stole Hockey from the Mimac Tribe in Nova Scotia. Facts over emotions
@senorc4416 You moved the goal post there, didn't ya? Who were the Black and Native players that "started the NHL"?
@@geraldfarr8279 that still doesn’t change who invented Hockey. Goal post was never moved
@@senorc4416 💯! bro the pig skins still everything. Then they act in complete denial when they're reminded of their thievery 🤣
Kudos, Pablo. Informed, funny and insightful. Great stuff.
So good. I left Twitter and miss Rex's posts the most.
Outstanding interview -the best work I have seen you do, Pablo. Rex's story is fascinating to me. I am a 69-year-old African American man who knows about interracial dating. This topic is deep and multifaceted. I believe that the combination of Pablo's insightful questioning with Rex Chapman's unique experience could easily be a captivating topic for a documentary movie. Pablo, why don't you put on your producer's hat and make this happen? A movie about Rex Chapman could be a definitive commentary on the fascinating topic of interracial dating in America.
Rex is Scott Van Pelt with John Skipper’s voice and my brain can’t reconcile it.
Great episode once again
Didn't realize I really like rex Chapman... lsu fan so didn't want to but here we are
Excellent interview...
I listened to Rex on a few podcasts. Loved him on the others, and he didn't disappoint again. I thought the player comparison of jokic to Nash was brilliant. Dude is blind to race, position, height, and lol, gravity. Keep being you Rex!
This has been one of the best episodes so far, and theyve all been great!
Really good podcast, really good guy. Thanks Rex for being you.
Such a well done episode
Damn this was a great interview. 🔥
Best sports podcast and it’s not even close
Dalton Knecht will be the next one. I have watched every game he has played this year and he is the real deal. He can score at all three levels and jump out of the gym. It may take him a couple of years to adjust but he has everything he needs to be a great NBA player.
Yes!
He also spent 4 years in college so he's coming in with maturity.
Rex Chapman is awesome ~ what a great story, what an amazing hooper and now we know just a terrific guy.
Fantastic stuff pablo
Ok, discounting for my prior comment this was a great interview!
Fabulous interview
Pablo is on fire. I would pay for his content.
What an excellent interview!
Pablo and team, thank you for the best podcast series out there! The Rex Chapman and Urologist's of podcasts!
😅
If Cooper Flagg lives up to the hype in his (likely) only season at Duke, he's gonna be the one carrying the next Great White Hope label
Kinda like Chet holmgrens game, too (if he can stay healthy)
As long as both Jokic and Doncic are both white there's no shortage of Great White Hopes. Rather more than "hope" is involved, in fact, since Jokic is again the favorite for MVP.
U keeping up ?..we taking about white USA players ..not the euros that the NBA changed up for so they could be successful..not to mention they go to academies and dedicate their childhood from elementary school on up to make a professional league ..so yea there are some really talented “euros” in the NBA ..that ain’t the topic tho
@@newelldavis1858 I'M keeping up. But I'M making the distinction between "Great White Hope" and "White American NBA Star", which the OP conflated.
The NBA "changed up for" the Europeans how?
@@gandydancer9710 got less athletic and they don't play defense? Everyone can't dunk but almost everyone can shoot 3's.
It just dawned on me that Rex sounds exactly like Corey Taylor.
Pablo great show, but your "crack" staff screwed up one of the graphics. When Rex was talking about playing on Team USA with Danny Manning, David Robinson and Ricky Berry(RIP)-San Jose State, Sacramento Kings, but you showed a picture of Rick Barry of the Warriors?
Oooohhh boy, Pablo is podding today! Thanks for keeping it real with us Rex but you were definitely a baller. Don’t sell yourself short.
That Charlotte team, in the 90s. Even if you had a team, the uniforms and those players were huge out here. I had a white Hornets short set from the Korean store and they had to get that joint down off the wall with the pole. Pacer fan btw.
What a great show... haven't seen Pablo since the the old PTI & Around the Horn days. ...
Blows my mind that Tom Chambers doesn’t get named initially when Rex literally played a season with him 😂
One other thing Rex and Pablo did not mention: career opportunities. Charles Barkley tells a story about going to predominantly white American schools and asking kids what they want to do for a living. Doctor, lawyer, engineer, and other "professions" outrank pro athlete by a sizable margin. Sometimes, having a viable plan B is an impediment to achieving plan A.
There’s still a large white working class population who don’t have those options though. The truth is a lot of blk kids just take the sport more seriously
No question
Wow. Big up PTFO- Always RexChapman
Those old Bird/Jordan and Bird/Magic commercials makes me think some company should replicate that formula with either Jokic and Embiid competing against each other or Shai and Ant.
This is a genius idea and shoe companies 100% should do that. Adidas already going somewhat that route with Ant’s AE1s. Shai is about to be a sneaker FA so I think there is potential there with adidas already leaning into the old school sneaker marketing ideas with the AE1s
Adidas make 💩 shoes so wateva ..also today’s NBA dudes don’t compete and foster rivalries .a “fake” commercial won’t change that
🤣🤣🤣.. and who's supposed to be Jordan and who's supposed to be Magic?
Great show as always coming from Pablo and the crew. But how do you have this conversation and not talk about women’s hoops and it’s developing stars in contrast to the men’s game.
Rex I still you remember you from the first Si article in 85 while you were still in high school! I’ve been a fan ever since the Chapman chain!
Me too ..Rex was kool as fuk
He was my first UK favorite player. I was 6 and he was EVERYTHING here in Kentucky!
Pablo is the freshest. Thanks Rex, you are a STAR.
Always loved Madsen, good to see him with that take.
Chris Mullins, Tim Legler, Mark Price, Craig Ehlo all could hoop.
Yes they could ..but Legler don’t fit with the other 3 ..3 point contest win and all
Mullin.
Saw him in college and he was terrific. Solid pro. Made some poor decisions and paid for them and is accountable for them. Really like him and his perspectives. Wish him well.
So much could be said but I’ll stick to the guest ..I graduated in 88 ..Rex was “our” boy ..we didn’t get alotta tv coverage of a college players back then ..it was magazines ..somehow we knew from magazine interviews and pics that Rex was “down” ..it’s really refreshing to see that he was the genuine article all the way around not just athletically
Great topic!
This a well done episode. But there's another topic which is similar to this topic and it's the lack of African American baseball players in the major leagues. The two topics would make for an interesting sociological study regarding race, sport and society. And how certain societal factors persuade certain members of society to either pursue or not to pursue certain athletic endeavors.
The best Player in the MLB is Black..Arron Judge
Damn i first saw pablo years and years ago on PTI and kinda forgot about him. I remember thinking he was the only guest i ever saw who could have been full time on PTI. He was that good.
Larry's not white, Larry's clear_space jam
ironically, the top 2 black players aren’t american either..Embid & Giannis.
Maybe American athletes don't work as hard as European or Africans.
@@ryannath85maybe Europeans are gay
@@ryannath85I think most white American athletes are at least somewhat discouraged from seriously seeking pro careers. More like use it to get a scholarship to get an education for a "real" job.
I woildnt day they are rhe top two
top 3. put shai on that list too
Donte V & Chris Braun should be on that list .
13:40 Honestly never gave any thought to Rex being “White” but he seem to have a lot of White Guilt!
God made you exactly how you were supposed to be! It’s 👌🏿
What did he say that gave you the impression he had white guilt?
America destroyed the yt NBA star by trying to destroy the black American NBA stars like Isaiah Thomas, Stephon Marbury and most of all Allen Iverson
Fax and that one guy who changed his name
When Rex referenced Ricky Berry at 18:32, he was talking about Ricky Alan Berry who was drafted by the Kings in 1988, not the Rick Berry who was pictured.
Does anyone have a time-stamp when Rex answers the question?
Start at 35:20
Cooper Flagg will be in the NBA soon enough
And he will b a Keith Van Horn
Yupp Cooper is a Dog
To do what?
@@willjackson4354 he's going to save American basketball
@@oaklandtraphouse lol ok
I have always been a Rex Chapman fan on the court and follow him on twitter. He's too humble.
this is A+ (bigger than) basketball content
Great Skipper impression
I was just about to type how he sounds exactly like him
I honestly see a lot of similarities between this discussion and that of great black American baseball players in the current MLB. But I also think that telling kids at a young age that they need to specialize in one sport creates a tracking system that will continue to exacerbate these trends.
TOM Chambers had bounce.
Pablo's podcast are starting to be a must to listen to, he's becoming a problem.
Kind of a silly comment.
Damn. That story at 15:40. Messed up on so many levels.
And that was in the in 90s!!!!
Great conversation
Fkn unbelievable pod. This show is too good.
Crazy how they totally left off Donta Diviencienzo off their White American list. He dropped 40 and 11 3s last night. The Knicks disrespect continues
His first big game since he got in the league so there’s that
They also left off Sabonis.
Chet Holmgren. And Reed Sheppard and Cooper Flagg are on the way.
When he was talking about playing on the select team with Ricky Berry. You showed Rick Barry who is over 20 years older than Chapman.
Ricky Berry and Rick Barry are different people.
Ricky Berry was black. Played for the Sacramento Kings. He committed suicide after his rookie season
I turned 21 in 1986. My favorite player was Kurt Rambis.
Dan Majerle was called Thunder Dan at CMU.
That's who the kid from the Tennessee Volunteers, Dalton Knecht, reminds me of.
Dan was overrated son
Which was so funny because he wasn't a great jumper and his dunks were not powerful.
The boy king of Kentucky. No pressure 😅.
Such a cavalier attitude but also competitive streak. I don't route for the Phoenix Suns or the Miami Heat but I did win Rex was playing there.
Cool next topic what happened to all the Black-American baseball stars???
Probably just tall lawyers, doctors, and entrepreneurs. White Americans kids are encouraged to do anything they want and have the means to do so. Much higher % anyway.
Love the "Chico's Bail Bonds" shirt.
He mentioned Ricky Berry (San Jose State forward) at 18:31 and you flash a photo of Rick Barry, NBA Hall of Famer. Rick Barry was in his 40's by the mid-80s. He's not playing on a U.S. select team with teenage kids lol.
He said Ricky Berry Jr.
Now delete your ignorant comment...
Easily the best sports journalist right now
When he said, "Ricky Berry," a picture of the old Rick Barry was flashed. Rex is not much older than me, but I assure you that Rick Barry is much, much older than me. Does Paulo think that Rick Berry and Rex Chapman are in the same generation? LMBO
Link to the Fran interview?
Racism is prevalent in Kentucky and I am so sad that Rex had to go through that. Especially having such great relationships with people of color. I wish people in the south would just leave people alone, it is so easy.
bro it's crazy how much it still exists to this day
Racism is prevalent everywhere.
Thank you
Cooper Flagg is coming & I hope he does well, I’ve been saying this for years , we get a white American Superstar, he’s going to get paid …
Are Rex and Skipper long lost brothers or am I just getting fooled by the Southern brogue?
I always compared Rex Chapman to Sidney Moncrief. To me their games were VERY similar. Chapman is a good guy. Always liked him.
18:25 Rex Chapman did NOT play on the USA tem with the shown player, Rick Barry, who was an NBA rookie the year Rex Chapman was born. The player he is actually mentioning is probably Ricky Berry, who ended up a King, and a suicide.
19:20 The host somehow has the impression that Jerry West couldn't jump. West could in fact jump almost as well as Chapman and, despite some contrary listings, was only about an inch shorter than Chapman.
Jamie would have had to drink from a different water fountain than the other dudes…
What about Donte V?
He is going to fly to the top when the playoffs start.
And if he does that then we can talk
David Faulk looked like Jeffery Tambor.
At many high schools, the football coaches 'steal' all the big guys and there's not anybody left to play BBall.
Cooper Flagg is rising from the mists.
I'm sure Kentucky and Duke will pop a couple out soon enough.
This isn’t 1994, they haven’t done that in like 20 years.
Reed Sheppard this year, Cooper Flagg next year good call
17:40 I would have LOVED if he did go into the political aspect of everything.
What do you think is missing? Political definitely plays a part
@@davidjohnson5164 I would have loved to hear his experience as a young yt man surrounded by ppl who harbored racial biases and racist ideologies. I'd be curious to hear how those same ppl thought about our political scene at that time, and how those ppl voted.
Hate him or REALLY hate him, Grayson Allen doesn't get enough respect for his game
Grayson Allen is a prime example of how you can take the man out of Jacksonville, but you can't take the Jacksonville out of the man 😂
It doesn't help that he went to Duke either 🤣🤣🤣
He’s a dirty player. No respect earned
he earned his rep as a dirty player over a period of several years.
it takes a long time to earn losing that rep once you've earned that rep.
from what little I've seen of him this year it seems he's stqrted on the 2nd path.
his game has had my respect. so I can agree with how you phrased that, but
do either of us really know how most other people feel about a thing like that?
according to who? what mind-reader reads everyone's, or most folks', minds?