Super helpful video! Instructions for these things are garbage! I think mine is set to lv 2(towing) on the basic tune. I can’t wait to go mess with the advanced features in the am. Another thing is I lost 3 mpg. Any help would be great! I have an 18 2500 bone stock.
These tuners will definitely give you more power. The problem is that when we have more power, we tend to want to use it. I know that I always enjoy feeling the difference when I hit the skinny pedal. Unfortunately, I cannot help with the mpg loss. I experimented with the tunes to see which one my truck liked best, including best mpg.
It shouldn’t affect the truck to unplug it and plug it back in. The Smarty Touch sends the program to your ECM. If you want to, you can program it then remove the touch. I keep mine plugged in for the display function of the touch.
Great video! I'm basically stock except 75hp injectors. My truck is an 01 5.9 dually with a 6 speed, 3.55 rear . I'm trying to run a tune to keep the smoke down and get better mileage. It my welding truck so i have some weight on it too. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance
I hate to say spend more money, but you probably are going to need either a larger turbo, or compound turbos to reduce the smoke with 75hp injectors installed. Either that, or put the stock injectors back in if you still have them. My truck has stock injectors and I still get some smoke with this tuner turned up above level 5.
@@Countryliving_Drifter I know that I would personally prefer the compound turbo setup, but it can get quite expensive. I have seen kits ranging from about $2,000 and they go up from there. I was looking at a kit from ATS which is about $5,600. This is parts only, the labor is an additional cost unless you do it yourself. If you install it yourself, make sure you have a long weekend to do it as it can take a couple of long days to do.
Can you start over and redo the programming if I have already selected the basic option and I want do advanced? I feel like I’m missing something but I’m not sure what.
I drilled and tapped the manifold right in the middle where all of the ports come together, just a couple inches above the flange. As far as your question of whether it is necessary, I believe it depends on what you are doing with the truck and how much horsepower you have. If you tow a lot or heavy, then I would say yes it is helpful. If your truck is basically a daily driver that you don’t tow with, then you may not need it.
What settings so you think are best for fuel economy? 04 5.9... just bought the truck and it has a smarty touch already installed. My fuel economy is really bad
All I know is my truck which is a ‘03 4x4 and I played with the settings to see what my truck would get. My truck likes the REVO tune power level 5 torque 2 and timing 2 with a very light touch of the skinny pedal to get the best fuel economy. Many people will argue that stock settings will get you the best economy, but each truck is different. I think economy is mostly how you control your right foot and how much (cool) air flow your engine has into it. The best I ever saw on my truck was 19.6 mpg on the highway, empty.
One other thing you could do is try different settings and if you see smoke, go to the next lower setting since smoke out the tailpipe equals too much fuel.
Hey brother thanks for the video does it tune multiple vehicles or only one ? I work with HP Tuners for my gasers do you know of a good editor like Hp tuners for diesel ?? Thanks again
The Smarty has VIN # locking, so it is only good for 1 vehicle. I’ve heard that you can put the vehicle back to stock and then transfer the tuner to a different vehicle, but I’m not 100% on that.
If you want more freedom to tune and/or know of a tuning company that can write tunes for you, you might want to research EFI Live tuning for your diesel.
Jay Ray thanks brother I’ve been tuning with hp for a while but just stayed in my own lane but of course having a lot more understanding on how to tune I trust myself to brand out more . yes I’m aware of EFI live I will check it out I appreciate it a lot
@@thomasjohnson1142 You can only tune a single truck at a time, but I just bought a used smarty touch and bought a code for 150 to let me use it on my truck, works perfectly fine!
So I didn't install on my truck but I was looking around on it hit something now my truck says needs exhaust service immediately how do I get it back to normal
Technically, on 3rd gen trucks the Smarty does not care. There is not a setting in the Smarty for deleting EGR and/or other emissions related equipment. The Smarty only changes timing, duration, and fuel pressure to give you more power. I do not know what settings it has for newer trucks.
Im having problems with my ecm on the smarty to where when i click the ecm setting where it would usually bring you to ecm settings it just shows a error and im not sure what to do. If someone could help that wouold be great!
Question, idk anything about smarty tuners, this 2005 Cummins I’m buying tomorrow has a smarty touch on it and dude said it’s on a tow tune but I didnt like how it drives and feels and I just want it stock, do I just change all those parameters like rail timing and stuff back to “stock” or what? Thank you
@@JayRays1trucksorry never knew you commented a 2nd time. But it felt like it was too “hot” of a tune and it smoked like a coal train. I don’t mind a little smoke but good lord. I ended up putting it to stock and put my Edge evolution on it with tow tune, got a little bump in power and smokes some when I stomp the go pedal lol
I’m glad you were able to get it in a spot that you like better. My truck is a bit different I guess. I can put the Smarty at level 9 and it only smokes when I stomp the gas pedal. It makes it feel like it should have come from the factory that way to me, but not an overwhelming amount of power. My 2015 HEMI is still faster than my diesel.
@@JayRays1truck the dude I bought it from did tell me it will be slow as crap running it stock and he was right (it had the smarty tune on when I test drove it) I’ve owned it close to 2 months now I may take the edge off and try that smarty tow tune and see how it feels again now that I’m actually used to how the truck feels and drives now. Who knows may like it lol
Changing you timing and fuel pressure could lead to a slight increase in boost pressure, but it will most likely not be much. At factory settings, my truck runs around 28-32psi of boost (max). I can hit 34-36 psi boost with the programmer at level 9, fuel pressure at 3, and timing at 3 with the skinny pedal to the floor. My truck has the HY35 turbo. If you want more boost pressure, you will have to consider a different turbo, or compound turbos. You might also need to add a boost fooler if you plan to go over 40 psi. If you want the turbo to spoil quicker, to get to max boost as soon as possible, that can be accomplished with timing.
Ok so how do i get past the ecm tuning? Whenever i try to tune the ecm it say turn key on so i do so and it goes for a couple seconds then says timeout...how do i fix or what am i doing wrong
Are you actually starting the truck, or just turning the key to the on position? I haven’t had that happen to me. If it keeps happening, you might have to get a new SD card and put the files on it, then try again. If that doesn’t work, you may have to contact MADS Smarty for a resolution.
Touch the spot on your gauge display where you want the temperature to be. This will pull up parameters. Select “Transmission”. Then select “Trans Sump Temperature”. This should display your transmission temperature
Jay Ray thanks for the reply ! I did a bit of digging and I guess the smarty cannot display trans temp on a 03/04 305 hp 5.9s.. the edge monitor I had before could. But smarty’s can’t for the 305 😔
That’s odd. Mine is an ‘03 and it works, but I have the 235hp auto truck. Maybe that’s the difference? I’m not sure if it would change anything, but is the firmware up to date?
Well that’s the thing I’m not 100% sure if it is. I bought it a year ago but who’s to say how long it was sitting on the shelf for.. wouldn’t hurt to plug it into the computer and see I guess
How do you remove the "agree to terms screen" at the start up? I know that it is a petty thing but i am wasting valuable calories by reaching up and pushing the button every time the truck turns on.
I currently have my rail pressure at 2. Timing is at 3, and I am at Power level 5. What is ramping up to 20? Boost pressure? Do you mean 20K rail pressure? I have seen 36 psi boost and 29K rail pressure in my truck with no issues. If increasing pressure and adding timing, take note of how responsive your truck is and how much(if any) smoke comes out the tail pipe. If it starts to be more than a puff of black smoke when you hit the skinny pedal, you can back off on the rail pressure a little bit to clear it up.
Also, I have ran my truck tuned at power level 9 with RP at 3 and Torque at 3 before. Only issue is it blows black smoke quite a bit even without a load on my truck. If you do that, make sure you pay attention to your transmission temperature
which range are you referencing? There are different levels for power, fuel rail pressure, and timing . Each one can give you a different level of horsepower and/or torque. you can also change the max speed on your truck as well as entering a different tire size to calibrate your speedometer. For example, My truck has oversized tires so my speedometer was not reading correctly. I measured the overall height of my tires, entered that in the programmer, and verified with GPS monitors that my speedometer is correct now
That allows you to see a different range on the gauges. It’s a visual representation. For example; If you want to see temperatures between 130 and 200 degrees only, you can set it to that range. You can also set it up to alarm at a high temp, or a high rail pressure, etc.
when you say EB, are you referring to engine block? If so, you should plug in your engine block heater in cold temperatures. My truck is usually fine until it gets down in the teens, say 15 degrees F or less. Then it has to be plugged in. If your truck doesn’t have one, you can purchase one from the dealer or you can get some “strip” heaters to put on your engine oil pan and transmission to help keep the fluids warm.
I have never heard of anyone plugging the programmer into their laptop before. I honestly don’t know what it would, or should do if plugged into a laptop. If you are trying to download the TNT-R tuning to it, you are supposed to use the USB drive that came with it.
@@JayRays1truck ok i was just used to the edge and stuff but just wondered thank you i always tune with efi live on duramaxs and cummins so i was just wondering
I would caution everyone that if you want to buy a smarty touch, so you can use the box tunes, then when you know more make your own tunes. Like using the udc pro software they still say you can use to make your own tunes??? Yea, you can not anymore. You can not buy a key/dongle AT ALL! Funny thing is every shop ( all the big ones, we all probably watch their videos, they have the dongle, they can make tunes. We used to be able till about a year ago I guess. Smarty act like they have no idea what your talking about when you call and ask. Just a heads up, canned tunes are ok while you build your truck, but you pay a lot of money expecting to be able to make your own tunes.
@@JayRays1truck mine had the micro usb as well, that works well. Im talking about the actual software used to make the tunes that are on the and card. Not the box tunes the unit comes with, the ones you would pay someone to write special for your truck. We used to be able to access that software. Smarty still has the download on their site for the “udc pro software”, but you CAN NOT use it anymore. They will not tell you, but you can’t buy the special usb stick that allows you to use the tuning software.
Thanks for the vid, nicely done and very helpful.
Thank you for the comment! Let me know if I can answer any questions for you about my experience with my 5.9l Cummins.
Super helpful video thank you!
Glad I could help!
Super helpful video! Instructions for these things are garbage! I think mine is set to lv 2(towing) on the basic tune. I can’t wait to go mess with the advanced features in the am. Another thing is I lost 3 mpg. Any help would be great! I have an 18 2500 bone stock.
These tuners will definitely give you more power. The problem is that when we have more power, we tend to want to use it. I know that I always enjoy feeling the difference when I hit the skinny pedal. Unfortunately, I cannot help with the mpg loss. I experimented with the tunes to see which one my truck liked best, including best mpg.
Hi, my smarty touch has been unplugged and replunged in due to various truck repairs, how does this affect the truck? I have the same vehicle as you.
It shouldn’t affect the truck to unplug it and plug it back in. The Smarty Touch sends the program to your ECM. If you want to, you can program it then remove the touch. I keep mine plugged in for the display function of the touch.
How fast did your tuner come in when you ordered it? Looking at buying one in the next couple of days and want it to be here before my trip.
I think it was pretty quick, but it was back in 2018. I don’t remember exactly how long it was.
@@JayRays1truck alright I appreciate it man
I got got mine in 4 days and just got it installed today.
Thanks for this.
You’re welcome. I try to make videos about things I cannot find information about. I hope they help someone.
Great video! I'm basically stock except 75hp injectors. My truck is an 01 5.9 dually with a 6 speed, 3.55 rear . I'm trying to run a tune to keep the smoke down and get better mileage. It my welding truck so i have some weight on it too. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance
I hate to say spend more money, but you probably are going to need either a larger turbo, or compound turbos to reduce the smoke with 75hp injectors installed. Either that, or put the stock injectors back in if you still have them. My truck has stock injectors and I still get some smoke with this tuner turned up above level 5.
@@jayraysdiy852 thanks for your reply. 👍 I will look at both options and go from there
@@Countryliving_Drifter I know that I would personally prefer the compound turbo setup, but it can get quite expensive. I have seen kits ranging from about $2,000 and they go up from there. I was looking at a kit from ATS which is about $5,600. This is parts only, the labor is an additional cost unless you do it yourself. If you install it yourself, make sure you have a long weekend to do it as it can take a couple of long days to do.
Can you start over and redo the programming if I have already selected the basic option and I want do advanced? I feel like I’m missing something but I’m not sure what.
yes, you can go through this process and change the tune as often as you want to
Where did you put the egt on the manifold? Do you really need one.
I drilled and tapped the manifold right in the middle where all of the ports come together, just a couple inches above the flange.
As far as your question of whether it is necessary, I believe it depends on what you are doing with the truck and how much horsepower you have. If you tow a lot or heavy, then I would say yes it is helpful. If your truck is basically a daily driver that you don’t tow with, then you may not need it.
What settings so you think are best for fuel economy? 04 5.9... just bought the truck and it has a smarty touch already installed. My fuel economy is really bad
All I know is my truck which is a ‘03 4x4 and I played with the settings to see what my truck would get. My truck likes the REVO tune power level 5 torque 2 and timing 2 with a very light touch of the skinny pedal to get the best fuel economy. Many people will argue that stock settings will get you the best economy, but each truck is different. I think economy is mostly how you control your right foot and how much (cool) air flow your engine has into it. The best I ever saw on my truck was 19.6 mpg on the highway, empty.
One other thing you could do is try different settings and if you see smoke, go to the next lower setting since smoke out the tailpipe equals too much fuel.
Timing advance = more mpg and snappiness. Harder on the engine for towing though. if pulling heavy stock timing is best.
Hey brother thanks for the video does it tune multiple vehicles or only one ? I work with HP Tuners for my gasers do you know of a good editor like Hp tuners for diesel ?? Thanks again
The Smarty has VIN # locking, so it is only good for 1 vehicle. I’ve heard that you can put the vehicle back to stock and then transfer the tuner to a different vehicle, but I’m not 100% on that.
If you want more freedom to tune and/or know of a tuning company that can write tunes for you, you might want to research EFI Live tuning for your diesel.
Jay Ray thanks brother I’ve been tuning with hp for a while but just stayed in my own lane but of course having a lot more understanding on how to tune I trust myself to brand out more . yes I’m aware of EFI live I will check it out I appreciate it a lot
@@thomasjohnson1142 You can only tune a single truck at a time, but I just bought a used smarty touch and bought a code for 150 to let me use it on my truck, works perfectly fine!
So I didn't install on my truck but I was looking around on it hit something now my truck says needs exhaust service immediately how do I get it back to normal
The only thing I can think is maybe you can restore factory settings.
Can I delete the EGR and anything smog related with a smarty tuner ?
Technically, on 3rd gen trucks the Smarty does not care. There is not a setting in the Smarty for deleting EGR and/or other emissions related equipment. The Smarty only changes timing, duration, and fuel pressure to give you more power. I do not know what settings it has for newer trucks.
Does this tuner have to be downloaded on a sd card from a laptop then to the tuner?
It comes with the tunes I show in the video already on the tuner. You can update it with the TNT-R tunes if you choose.
Im having problems with my ecm on the smarty to where when i click the ecm setting where it would usually bring you to ecm settings it just shows a error and im not sure what to do. If someone could help that wouold be great!
I would try to contact Smarty. I am not familiar with this issue.
Question, idk anything about smarty tuners, this 2005 Cummins I’m buying tomorrow has a smarty touch on it and dude said it’s on a tow tune but I didnt like how it drives and feels and I just want it stock, do I just change all those parameters like rail timing and stuff back to “stock” or what? Thank you
Yes. Just change the ECM tuning parameters back to stock and then follow the on screen prompts. That should do what you want.
I’m curious though, what do you not like about the way it drives and feels?
@@JayRays1trucksorry never knew you commented a 2nd time. But it felt like it was too “hot” of a tune and it smoked like a coal train. I don’t mind a little smoke but good lord. I ended up putting it to stock and put my Edge evolution on it with tow tune, got a little bump in power and smokes some when I stomp the go pedal lol
I’m glad you were able to get it in a spot that you like better. My truck is a bit different I guess. I can put the Smarty at level 9 and it only smokes when I stomp the gas pedal. It makes it feel like it should have come from the factory that way to me, but not an overwhelming amount of power. My 2015 HEMI is still faster than my diesel.
@@JayRays1truck the dude I bought it from did tell me it will be slow as crap running it stock and he was right (it had the smarty tune on when I test drove it) I’ve owned it close to 2 months now I may take the edge off and try that smarty tow tune and see how it feels again now that I’m actually used to how the truck feels and drives now. Who knows may like it lol
When I go to program my truck it says no free ECM flash programming license. do you know what that means?
I’m not 100% sure, but a question: Did you buy the tuner new or used?
Mines say the same thing
Are you able to mess with the boost psi at all? Thanks
Changing you timing and fuel pressure could lead to a slight increase in boost pressure, but it will most likely not be much. At factory settings, my truck runs around 28-32psi of boost (max). I can hit 34-36 psi boost with the programmer at level 9, fuel pressure at 3, and timing at 3 with the skinny pedal to the floor.
My truck has the HY35 turbo.
If you want more boost pressure, you will have to consider a different turbo, or compound turbos. You might also need to add a boost fooler if you plan to go over 40 psi.
If you want the turbo to spoil quicker, to get to max boost as soon as possible, that can be accomplished with timing.
Oh ok thanks i have the HO 5.9 24v i have the hx 35 turbo and i think there is a boost fool that comes with it?
Ok so how do i get past the ecm tuning? Whenever i try to tune the ecm it say turn key on so i do so and it goes for a couple seconds then says timeout...how do i fix or what am i doing wrong
Are you actually starting the truck, or just turning the key to the on position? I haven’t had that happen to me. If it keeps happening, you might have to get a new SD card and put the files on it, then try again. If that doesn’t work, you may have to contact MADS Smarty for a resolution.
Where is the trans temp located ? It isn’t in my trans or temperature category in the smarty menu.. :(
Touch the spot on your gauge display where you want the temperature to be. This will pull up parameters. Select “Transmission”. Then select “Trans Sump Temperature”. This should display your transmission temperature
Jay Ray thanks for the reply ! I did a bit of digging and I guess the smarty cannot display trans temp on a 03/04 305 hp 5.9s.. the edge monitor I had before could. But smarty’s can’t for the 305 😔
That’s odd. Mine is an ‘03 and it works, but I have the 235hp auto truck. Maybe that’s the difference? I’m not sure if it would change anything, but is the firmware up to date?
Well that’s the thing I’m not 100% sure if it is. I bought it a year ago but who’s to say how long it was sitting on the shelf for.. wouldn’t hurt to plug it into the computer and see I guess
kawasaki66100 were you able to see if the firmware was up to date?
How do you remove the "agree to terms screen" at the start up? I know that it is a petty thing but i am wasting valuable calories by reaching up and pushing the button every time the truck turns on.
Honestly, I don’t know
Thanks for the reply. I don't know why but it finally quit displaying the screen and I have no idea how. Anyway i am glad it's gone.
Typically once your actually tune your truck it will go away
Hows the rp and timing on yours? I run the same but rp is 1. Timing and torque 2. Ramps up too 20 no problem. Afraid to bump the rp more
I currently have my rail pressure at 2. Timing is at 3, and I am at Power level 5. What is ramping up to 20? Boost pressure? Do you mean 20K rail pressure? I have seen 36 psi boost and 29K rail pressure in my truck with no issues. If increasing pressure and adding timing, take note of how responsive your truck is and how much(if any) smoke comes out the tail pipe. If it starts to be more than a puff of black smoke when you hit the skinny pedal, you can back off on the rail pressure a little bit to clear it up.
Also, I have ran my truck tuned at power level 9 with RP at 3 and Torque at 3 before. Only issue is it blows black smoke quite a bit even without a load on my truck. If you do that, make sure you pay attention to your transmission temperature
Why when I hooked my up it said no free Ecm flash programming license & it was brand new
You may have to contact MADS Smarty.
@@JayRays1truck I did
What does changing the ranges do?
which range are you referencing? There are different levels for power, fuel rail pressure, and timing . Each one can give you a different level of horsepower and/or torque. you can also change the max speed on your truck as well as entering a different tire size to calibrate your speedometer. For example, My truck has oversized tires so my speedometer was not reading correctly. I measured the overall height of my tires, entered that in the programmer, and verified with GPS monitors that my speedometer is correct now
@@JayRays1truck any of them. Like changing the coolant temp range what does that do? Other than the obvious
That allows you to see a different range on the gauges. It’s a visual representation. For example; If you want to see temperatures between 130 and 200 degrees only, you can set it to that range. You can also set it up to alarm at a high temp, or a high rail pressure, etc.
@@JayRays1truck nice. On another note, my EB doesn't run when its cold. Know anything about that?
when you say EB, are you referring to engine block? If so, you should plug in your engine block heater in cold temperatures. My truck is usually fine until it gets down in the teens, say 15 degrees F or less. Then it has to be plugged in. If your truck doesn’t have one, you can purchase one from the dealer or you can get some “strip” heaters to put on your engine oil pan and transmission to help keep the fluids warm.
What's the max hp available?
Smarty claims this tuner can add up to 200 horsepower. I have not tested my truck on a dyno, so I don’t know if that is accurate.
How do I get tnt-r software
you should be able to download it from Smarty’s website. www.madselectronics.com
if i plug it into my lap top will it turn on i plugged it into my laptop and it blinked red twice then green once and it kept doing that.
never turned on the screen was black
I have never heard of anyone plugging the programmer into their laptop before. I honestly don’t know what it would, or should do if plugged into a laptop. If you are trying to download the TNT-R tuning to it, you are supposed to use the USB drive that came with it.
@@JayRays1truck ok i was just used to the edge and stuff but just wondered thank you i always tune with efi live on duramaxs and cummins so i was just wondering
I would caution everyone that if you want to buy a smarty touch, so you can use the box tunes, then when you know more make your own tunes. Like using the udc pro software they still say you can use to make your own tunes??? Yea, you can not anymore. You can not buy a key/dongle AT ALL! Funny thing is every shop ( all the big ones, we all probably watch their videos, they have the dongle, they can make tunes. We used to be able till about a year ago I guess. Smarty act like they have no idea what your talking about when you call and ask. Just a heads up, canned tunes are ok while you build your truck, but you pay a lot of money expecting to be able to make your own tunes.
I’m not sure how the newer models of the SmartyTouch work, but mine uses a microSD card for the files. Is that what you are talking about?
@@JayRays1truck mine had the micro usb as well, that works well. Im talking about the actual software used to make the tunes that are on the and card. Not the box tunes the unit comes with, the ones you would pay someone to write special for your truck. We used to be able to access that software. Smarty still has the download on their site for the “udc pro software”, but you CAN NOT use it anymore. They will not tell you, but you can’t buy the special usb stick that allows you to use the tuning software.
@@dangerdiesel3106 Thanks for the information.
Do you know why I don’t have power on demand on my smarty touch?
what year is your truck?
@@JayRays1truck early 2004
when you turn your truck on, does it say POD on the top of the screen close to the middle? or does it not show at all?
@@JayRays1truck not at all
You are probably going to have to contact MADS Smarty about it. The only thing I can think of would be that it may need a firmware or software update.