"So you're just a racist?" | Caller's view on knife crime shut down by Oli Dugmore
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Oli Dugmore hears from a caller called Kevin, who claims that black people are more 'culturally inclined to use knives' than white people.
The discussion comes amid Idris Elba's claim that the government applies more ‘focused thinking’ on tackling XL bullies than on the issue of knife crimes.
His comments came after being presented with new LBC analysis back in January, which revealed that five children per day were arrested for carrying a knife in 2023, including children aged 10 - the minimum age of criminal responsibility.
According to LBC's findings, published for the first time today, around 1,500 children aged 16 and under were arrested for the possession of a knife or other sharp implements such as screwdrivers, carving forks or shards of glass over the first ten months of 2023.
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Bring back Sangita, clearly they are trying to to punish her for doing actual journalism
Lol, shes an activist
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Bring back Sangita. An utter disgrace she has been suspended for calling out the lies of the Israeli government and the IDF.
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That's not what's happened is it.
Let's no bother for the sanity of the uk
Whilst we're on the subject of racism, bring back Sangita.
What’s he absence got to do with racism ?
What happened with her!?
@@karlito_ln7091they fired her for not being biased for israel
@@karlito_ln7091fired for supporting the truth
@@SK-ei4cm Hardly anything, but my campaign is going to be, on every LBC video, "Whilst we're on the subject of (insert subject here), bring back Sangita". Who's with me?
I’m DONE with LBC after they’ve unfairly dropped Sangita…. Fake free speech champions eh
Wow I didn't even know they dropped her!? What even happened? Could someone clue me in?
@@kryptikknowledge1501 I didn't know either, found out through this too! Apparently she had a "fiery" interview with an Israeli minister or representative.
@@kryptikknowledge1501 yep, she had the “audacity” to question an Israeli spokesperson on her show and got fired for that. LBC = Leading Britain’s Censorship
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I’m done with lbc and it’s far left ideology!!
Justice for Sangita
What happened to her?
@@youknow6968 Yes, justice for that fraud Myska.
@@youknow6968LBC fired her for doing her job properly - questioning an Israelite politician.
She's the best host well at least when the topic is about Palestine and Israel.
I've like a lot of what she has said about other topics.
@@Salman_Sahodid they actually? I didn’t hear about that. Crazy
Where is Sangita? 😢 Shame on LBC
Calm down Princess. She's taking a well earned holiday. She'll be back soon.
She's pretty much white
It's criminal to ban Sangita, that's some sort of racism
its really not racism its for attacking the zionists that she was sacked for lets at least be honest, she put her views too strongly the israelis begged for her to be sacked and LBCA for whatever reason complied
Some?
@@HarryFlowerrs I had to write some otherwise they will deny it
Sorry what's this? Has Sangita Myska been removed? Along with James O' B she's my favourite presenter!
@@HarryFlowerrs You're talking to a bot.
I miss Sangita the ANGEL of LBC
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More like demon.
@blitzerblazinoah6838 leave your mother out of this.
And she replaced my favourite host who they got rid for similar reasons - Maajid Nawaz
@@Ron.S.Sangita yes. Maajid? Absolutely not.
Where is sangita ???????? Huh ????
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 Because she said something true that you don't like?
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 spoken like a true hater of the truth.
@@edwardbernthal160 you're projecting your own sins onto me. You're in no position to lecture me on the truth, as all Leftists are habitual, pathological liars.
@@user-sd3ik9rt6dForgive my ignorance , I'm just passing through kind of thing , who and what happened with Sangita ?
you sound like a child 😂😂
Sangita has been dropped for questioning the iDF makes you wonder whose payiny who?
I Hope all Sangita supporters and supporters of the truth have signed the petition for justice for Sangita. 🇮🇪🇵🇸
As much as I love LBC, the Sangita situation has put me off massively. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Why do you love LBC? They offer 1 side of the argument every time and aren't very impartial journalists
@@jdizzle1779like every news agency on the planet
I found Sangita to be incredibly annoying in the past and and her overuse of logical fallacies very troublesome however it is an absolute disgrace that she has been silenced LBC should be ashamed of themselves and her co-presenters should be standing up for her
@@utredutredson1686 You, unlike so many people these days, have common sense.
you're not I love Sangita
I grew up in Northern Ireland in the 80s and 90s, lots of people got shot, stabbed, and knee capped, none of the perpetrators were black, almost all of them were disaffected, poor, uneducated young men, who grew up in extremely deprived, and heavily segregated, housing estates. I would imagine many of those descriptions apply to the perpetrators of knife crime in London. Race is not the issue.
Rapid immigration in the later 90s and beyond has transformed society from the one you grew up in. In addition, whilst poverty generally has a strong relationship to violent crime, black cultural groups commit knife crime at a per capita rate that vastly exceeds other groups. The rapid growth in those groups have created an extremely complex issue for the UK (in addition to other wealthy economies) and this requires intelligent research and action. Two things can be true: violence is often strongly related to poverty and some racial groups commit higher violent rates that go beyond poverty. We need to address both in addition to almost halting new arrivals in the absence of strong economic reasons.
Do you think Drill music, and glorification of gangsters has anything to do with it?
Although poverty can be a major driver to this kind of crime, it's a lot more nuanced than just saying that it is the core reason. Gang culture is definitely another factor which can be adopted by any race (such as the white working class of Liverpool) in London it has been adopted by the black community.
If poverty was the only factor then places like Cornwall or the small working class towns in the Midlands would be the worst for knife crime as they have much lower prospects than Londoners.
Race isn't the cause but it is certain cultures within those communities.
@@CiceroSolono they don’t. There are more poor people who happen to be black in those areas so the numbers are higher. London is a densely populated city. Also before mass immigration people in areas like south London were all white, lived in slums in extreme poverty if you had a job it would have been in a factory or down the docks. stabbing and murders where just as prevalent per capital, no coincidence that “road man” is a modern day version of “highway man” a robber who’d prey on victims around the city boundaries and would usually gut their victims like a fish.
@@CiceroSolo How would you explain the rate of knife crime in Glasgow in the past?
Has anyone done a study on middle class black people and knife crime? Yeah probably Kevin hasn't considered that as according to him all black people are the same and share the same culture.
For the likes of Kevin they look at people like Kwasi Kwatang and all they can only see is a knife wielding violent gangster and no amount of research can change their mind.
They have but people like him don't like inconvenient facts
As a man who is mixed and grew up in 90s, pretty poor , with 3 brothers who are mixed or fully black. There is so much more to it; we haven't been arrested or used a knife. I have a feeling that it is the youth of today with drugs, nice trainers, phones, etc. London is something else entirely when it comes to crime.
The fact he thinks black people use knives, just because criminals use knives is astonishing.
Imagine if we put that stigma on all English men. They all drink Stella and watch footy and beat their wives.
People reasoning skills are just ridiculous.
@@jamieakahenry
Where did he make this assertion?
The only thing he said , was about culture being a factor in why knife crime is so high in proportion. That was it.
And your analogy doesn’t work either. He never said all black people are knife criminals. So your analogy of saying all English people are ___ doesn’t make any sense.
A proper analogy with England and drinking would look like this. Young English people have a higher incidence of anti-social behaviour on holiday in southern Europe (compared to other European countries) , due to the drinking culture in English society. That’s essentially akin to what he has said, re: culture.
What is it with these utter straw man’s?
Excellent point. One Kevin will ignore.
We should boycott LBC until Sangitas back
What are you doing here then
Where is Sangita?
RELAX. Having a well deserved vacation. She'll be back soon.
Bring back Sangita if you care about your credibility
Vacation time.
@@Dark_Bandon Dude make up a better lie lol it's the 21st century, we have social media, we can check this stuff.
Lbc don't like the real truth if it doesn't fit
@@wendyholland2339 I see thanks
@@wendyholland2339 Guess what? You're wrong about LBC. You don't have to watch their content if you don't like it. Well unless you're a troll farm workers and you're getting paid too
"I'm interested in facts" proceeds to offer no facts 😭
so culture has absolutely nothing to do with it?
@@yington what do you mean by culture? If you're talking about our culture as a society then yes.
@@Putnamsmif
No, I mean the differences between say, black culture in London vs Chinese or Pakistani cultures, say.
Does this have absolutely nothing to do with it?
@@Putnamsmif different groups have different cultures.
@@yington that's your claim. you have to now provide proof, which you don't have. that's how it works dum dum.
Where is SANGITA???
We want her back!
Calm down Princess. She's taking a well earned holiday. She'll be back soon. RELAX.....
@@Dark_Bandon Wrong. She's unable to say what's going on (she replied to a comment a few days ago) - So this is way more than a well deserved rest, 'princess'.
I dont
@@haleytownsend7544 Why not? She's awesome and pretty.
@@storms9023 Oh look it's another recently purchased NPC bot farm account
Bring back Sangita you cowards 🤬
Myska Out!!!
LBC sinking😂
@@blitzerblazinoah6838you best change your profile pic lest someone notice your hypocrisy!
@@Asheanae you're entitled to express your wrong opinion, just as I'm entitled to call for someone to be sacked for being an antisocial professional liar like Myska.
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 It's very fortunate for you that the freedom to express a wrong opinion is maintained.
Bring back sangita
Where is Sangita ?
WHERE IS SANGITA??!?
Where's Sangita Myska? Honest journalism too much for LBC?
she isnt left wing enough for LBC
You mean sangita who doesn’t know the difference between a consulate and an embassy 🤦♂️
She's clearly on holiday. You that thing people like to do after working hard all year or can't you afford a nice vacation?
@@andrewstokes4026 Wait...LBC is full of right wingers what are you on about?
@@shacklock01 lol LBC is what GBN is to the right wing, both extremes
Where's SANGITA?
3 words. Bring back Sangita.
Shout out for Sangita, Oli!?
Izraehellis have occupied Britain
Where is Sangita????
I don’t understand - Why would Sangita be taken off air for pursuing the truth .
The pressure that Sangita put on her guest was immeasurable. And look at the ones that put her out of comission ! Its hurting them
Funny fact is we have knives everywhere in Africa, there are no regulations for these knives but we barely have knife crimes, why is this common in Europe if it is a black culture?
Because black culture in London can be totally different to black culture thousands of miles away in Africa. Just like white culture in Glasgow is different from white culture in Sicily.
Yeah mate violent crime is rare in African nations …🤦♂️
@@SK-ei4cmactually yes. Quite rare. They are army and rebel group who are fighting in various countries.
Africa is a bloodbath.
Knife crime in the Caribbean is rife
Lots of people using poverty as an excuse for bad behaviour, does it absolve people of personal responsibility? Most people are underpaid and in the rat race so why dont most people stab each other? Also seeing a lot of people saying we need more youth clubs etc, okay so what happens if the perpetrators don't attend these youth clubs? Even so, does any young person even want to go to a youth club anymore?
😂😂😂LBC don’t like facts
Poverty has always bred crime and always will.
bread crime, sprinkle O' thyme.
Less poverty today than in the past, and anyway the poorest ethnicities and nations are NOT the most criminal!
QED
but there are more poor white people than poor black people. did that not occur to you?
The head in sand response
So has culture who doesn’t frown upon crime.
Can't wait to hear about this on the pisscast!
bring back Sangita
Calm down Princess. She's taking a well earned holiday. She'll be back soon. RELAX.....
Where's Sangita Myska?
Where is sangita? bring her back
RELAX. Stop being a needy beta. Having a well deserved vacation. She'll be back soon.
Thanks Oli! ✊🏾
Now where’s Sangita!?
He’s quoting the Guardian but you instinctively know he’s a Express/Sun/Mail reader 😂😂😂😂😂
We want Sangita back
Where is Sangita, bro?
Hopefully sacked.
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 nice one, ZioKaren
@@blitzerblazinoah6838, your profile says 'because freedom matters'. So it matters unless you don't like it?
Free speech! Unless they disagree with me!
removed by LBC got taught a lesson😂
@@Asheanae just because you have free speech doesn't mean you're free for being criticised.
LOVE YOU OLI!! BUT WHERE'S SANGITA???
Holiday. She'll be back soon.
In court on racism charges hopefully..
She dared to criticise the Zionist terror state, she's being re-educated.
very concerned about the absence of Sangita
Sangita. Where is she ?
boycott LBC until Sangita is back on.
"Kevin in Oxford"
(Relentlessly naming London boroughs like he knows the Kray Twins)
Within the first ten seconds you already know exactly what this caller's argument is. They're all so predictable.
Who's they ?
yup, speaking of, why do the "facts, not feelings" mob always get so emotional when you reject their unfounded opinions?
@@stocktonjoans really 😂😂😂😂😂
@@LICKSTERxx did we just watch different videos?
@@stocktonjoans You can never reject opinions because opinions are like arseholes. Everybody's got one
I listen to Oli's show regularly at the weekends...and he is a very impressive operator (I also tune in to PoliticsJOE). He has energy and has obviously worked hard to really know about stuff. I contrast this with many mainstream presenters who are better known and he seems miles ahead in terms of being a communicator of genuinely useful information. I admire how he still manages to engage with this caller without losing the rag. I wish him all the very best best in his career progression- I think he is much needed in this increasingly out of balance world.
I agree,very professional proficient but without being patronising or stuffy.
I disagree, he is smug, self satisfied and intellectually dishonest.
@@robuk3723 Out of curiosity, who do you rate on the talk show presenter scene?
@@starmersbarber Charlie Wolf
Sangita ❤
Myska is a far left activist. Myska Out!!!
Where’s Sangita
Hopefully sacked.
Having a well deserved vacation. She'll be back soon.
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 Why do you hope Sangita was sacked?
@@TheySavedSoldeedsBrain She's a far-left activist.
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 Far left of whom?
What happened to sangita
Shame one LBC. Where is Sangita😢
Bring back Sangita !!!
Thanks Olly - but where's Sangita Myska?
The knife crime statistics don't lie. Unlike woke LBC presenters.
Yep agree, but they have there own facts because some guy did some research, this channel is pathetic, done!
The statistics don't lie (allegedly), but your interpretation of them certainly do!
Does the caller realise that knife crime is more rampant per capita in the NE compared to London?
London doesn't even register in the top 10 regions for knife crime. Go check out the government websites.
yes, for sure. In my NW city it is a huge issue. Sadly, it's kids attacking kids. many young deaths and many lives destroyed. 🙏
Knife crime in London started falling rapidly when Livingstone was mayor, it fell a bit under that egregious toad Johnson and has dropped further under Khan.
A lot of crimes are unreported, over 50 %.
Crime is rampant, with robberies by knife and with a vehicle like a moped at sky high rates.
It increased when stop and search was contested.
So there is your solution.
@seamuspadraigsanders431 Are you advocating more stop and searches in areas like Northumbria, Wales, and Northumberland, etc, where knife crime is increasing?
@@corn985 Obviously if the culture is one of laziness, violent music, movies and a hands off parenting style.
The policing will need to be more hands on than surveillance based.
What happened to Sangita??
Having a well deserved vacation. She'll be back soon.
@@Dark_Bandon - Waiting for the reveal that you are in fact her travel agent.
@@airfixx_8952 Because she's on holiday. Maybe you can't afford to take a little vacation family time.
@@Dark_Bandon on what authority do you make the claim that Sangita is on holiday?
@@airfixx_8952😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sangita❤
oli nails it .. "poverty"..
not hard really is it.
Yeah but if we acknowldge that it means it's something we can, and should, do something about. But if we blame it on... those people.... then we can pretend it's some nebulous force of the universe while also justifying racism. Let's not let reality, facts, and reason get in the way of unnecessary hatred.
Bangladeshi and Pakistani poverty in London / UK, is the same if not higher than Black population.
So, how exactly does “poverty” nail this extremely disproportionate share of the knife crime?
right. because white people arent also inn poverty
Poverty makes people stab other people - BS
Data shows there is still differences in race crime levels even when economic background is taken into account.
I am very curious as to why Sangita has disappeared from this channel. I do hope that it is not because some unjust political pressures were prioritised over her talents as a journalist due to her doing her job better than most that i have witnessed. He gives hope, relief from frustrations, and she cool as taboot. Fingers crossed she back sooooon.
Where's Sangita
Justice for Sangita.
Oli is absolutely correct about poverty. It is the main driver of most of the societal problems we see.
Anyone seen sangita around? I hear she’s great on the radio.
Austerity is the reason ...period, Sports recreations, football pitches, libraries all closed thanks to the blue party
indeed, they then blame the Mayor as the problem grows after withdrawal of services.
Austerity never used to be a bad word,, every party has used it in history, Gordon brown had it in his manifesto.. sometimes we need to stop spending our children’s future, we don’t have a endless supply of money.. it’s called a budget for a reason, everyone has to budget sometimes..
@@mrbilsulivannot when investing in the future. There are fewer youth clubs now than when I was a kid in the 70s. You invest in the youngsters and it will make the country a better and richer place going forwards for everyone the same as education. Tories austerity was just spiteful and it never affects them, in fact they have gotten richer through cronyism and selling off public services.
Nothing to do with parenting.......absolutely nothing, right?
@@brother1ray And parenting compliments all of the above
Well called out
Hahahahaha, that was the most awkward pause while the penny dropped I've ever seen... Also Justice for Sangita!
No matter how much you increase the legal penalty for carrying a knife, it will never outweigh the fear of being stabbed and killed. Consequently, the logic of deterrence does not work in this instance.
Bring back Sangita asap!!!
‘They are more violent only because they are black,’ is not based on facts but feelings.
Evidenced over the years.
So is just blaming the whole thing on “poverty”. Bangladeshi & Pakistani poverty is the same if not higher, yet knife crime nowhere near as high, is it.
I bet you would have absolutely NO issue saying that different culture in attitudes to drinking in the UK, is what drives the bad behaviour of young males on holiday in med countries, vs other European countries. Almost certainly at someone point you have thought this, or said it.
Is that bigoted against British people to say such a thing?
Google The data.
They are more violent but its not because of their skin colour, its because of the culture they come from. There has been extensive studies on this matter, in the black community in London for example, the more generations of black Londoners that were born here the less likely they are to fall into violent crime. The first generation immigrants are 89% more likely to commit violent crimes.
The nonsense about it being because of poverty has no basis in fact what so ever..
@@yington Pulls the race card to win his 2 minute radio debate.... meanwhile.... more people will continue to get killed as crime increases every year, just leave the cities to the nonsense they are heading for, life is too short to try and fix what people won't even acknowledge.
Wow. As an American who never watches British Television, I can't help but think this would be better with Sangita.
Oli he knew exactly where the conversation was going.
Ollie is going to be another James O' brien 👍
Scotland was the knife capital of Europe for decades. You didn't hear it in the news because it was every single day
Please dont forget Maajid Nawas also got dropped from LBC for questioning the poison shots!
am from Glasgow and the knife crime was due to rep. ' hes a stabber stay away from him' or 'dont start with him hes got nothin to lose'. its has nothing to do with colour as it was just the type of people in poverty stricken areas fighting turf wars or plain simple revenge over small matters of bravado
Sangita come back
WHERE'S SANGITA?!
Who cares
@@jamespaul6315 Quite a lot of us if you could be arsed to actually read all the comments.😒😆
i think she got sacked for for asking the right questions jusut show you lbc is owed by israel
@@MichellEllis It's your own fault for a two-word comment. I doubt he can process information beyond that.
It's amazing how little information about her departure is available. It feels like a deliberate closing of ranks. This station is a broad church with many different stances taken by a number of presenters...but there doesn't feel to be too much solidarity about. I've enjoyed Sangita's excellent contribution. She's been very honest, very direct...and she has proper experience built up in the world of journalism. Nick Ferrari has expressed quite a few views on the opposite end of the spectrum from Sangita- why hasn't he been sanctioned on an equal basis?
This is pathetically childish. If poverty causes people to stab each other please explain how. Cultures exist. They are different. Some differentiate themselves from others on the basis of race. Some differentiate themselves based on place. Some may use age, music scene, favourite 2 wheeled motor vehicle etc.
The culture of knife crime in Glasgow was not replicated in other equally poverty stricken areas of Great Britain or Scotland. There is a culture extant in London in which knife crime is very prevalent. Whether that is due to race or something else is beside the point. Blaming poverty is ridiculous because many of the murderers and their victims have siblings who do not commit knife crime. Are their parents giving them all the money causing their brother to take up arms and stab other kids who dress like them and listen to the same music but just so happen to be from a different area ?
I was wondering where the weekend presenter sangita is?
Wheres Sangita?
Take a deep breath and count to 10. She's taking a well earned holiday. She'll be back soon.
One word for this caller - Hainault...
You took the words right out of my mouth - this caller is so ignorant!
Bring back sangita.
RELAX. Calm down Princess. She's taking a well earned holiday. She'll be back soon.
LBC presenter’s cryptic five-word post as concern grows over her ‘disappearance’ .... ‘I miss you all too x.’ was posted by LBC presenter Sangita Myska who has mysteriously been dropped by the radio station.
Very well handled! Caller asked a question and clearly wasn’t prepared for the answer 👏🏽
Bring back Sangita 💪
What a bigot Kevin is ...
Facts are unpleasant when they disagree with your views.
@@Mike-tb5gjlol they aren't "facts though"...😅
@@Mike-tb5gjGo on, list his facts.
@@Titus9508SK department printed facts 45% of knife crime was committed by blacks on blacks
@@Titus9508Hahah the YOUGOV statistics for London are damning. They’ve progressively gone up since the late 90s, which happens to coincide with Blair’s immigration reforms.
Dull gammon bells were ringing within 20 seconds of that call
The credibility of LBC has completely gone with the refusal to allow Sangita back on air following her truthful words on Israel and the IDF . I have always had a lot of time for LBC and many of its programmes but the suspension of Sangita is an all time low .
So caused the white knife crime in Glasgow?
Being poor?
Oli dismissing facts to appease what's really going on.
What was dismissed? He provided other examples of gang/violence amongst sub-sections of the UK that diverge from the sole variable of "race" but indulged in the same behaviour. Why don't you actually respond to that where the caller didn't perhaps?
What happened to Sangita? I liked her
What an excellent - what do you call the people on these podcasts - anchor? So polite, gentle, humorous without being contemptuous? And yet trenchant. Bravo!
When did Oli from Politics Joe get an LBC show?
He’s had it for months, but he gets the graveyard shift - 4am to 7am on weekends.
Christ Alan Partridge got more respect than that... @@TheKarate10
Kevin - the gammon final boss
Bring back Sangita!
Went from facts to opinion pretty quick.
Is this a James Obrien clone? he interrupted and then steered the subject to Glasgow (irrelevant) then had a tantrum when the caller steered it back to London and real experience REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. Also to claim that harsher prison sentences dont stop crime is a disgrace.
No he challenged him then the caller asked him what knife crime is related to and he said poverty and gave an example
He got completely schooled
Where is Sangita??
Unsubbed until Sangita gets her spot back
Bye don't let the door hit you
That's going to work ??
Well said Oli.
Amazing. Well done Oli!