Here are some common questions and helpful resources on biblical sexuality: Is the Sin of Homosexuality Singled Out? rsn.pub/3Sfij5C A Question to Ask Those Who Adopt Pro-Gay Theology rsn.pub/47wl0nF Marriage Doctrine Alone Disqualifies Pro-Gay Theology rsn.pub/47rxXiM How Should You Talk to a Friend Who’s Gay? rsn.pub/47zEPdX Aren’t the Apostle Paul’s Sexual Ethics Outdated? rsn.pub/47vYHi6 When It Comes to Homosexuality, the Bible Addresses Behavior rsn.pub/4aQ9lTM Be Willing to Submit to Our Good God on the Issue of Homosexuality rsn.pub/3UeHUNJ
If you are not LGBTQ and have not been in the lifestyle it is so easy to say "just stop" or "it's a mind thing", it is so much more to it. I have had an attraction to the same sex and opposite sex for as long as I can remember, I am a man and carry myself as one. I have also been called names, talked bad to by family, disowned, been the topic in church, even had a close family member speak a word of death over my life, my dad is a pastor and he was one of the only people that didn't talk bad to me but instead encouraged me to PUSH and continue to worship. I have gone in and out of depression, contemplated taking my own life multiple times. I am a very spiritual person, (not a fan of religion), I feel the presence of the Holy Spirit in me and am convicted. I have found my ministry in being a nurse and do find myself at times speaking to my patients about the goodness of God and praying with them. I gave up along time ago with trying to become a "straight" man and allowing other people to condemn me. Instead I practice abstinence, I go deep into worship and for the most part try to be guided. Yes I still talk to guys and I lay out what I do and don't but I have made up in my mind that this whole thing is a process and will take time. It keeps me sane and allows me to grow closer to God through Jesus with the Holy Spirit as my guide. My goal is not to be a "straight" man but one that causes Gods heart to smile, I am blessed, I do have a purpose, and I am a child of God
I have had similar experiences to yourself, including the "bad talk" and name-calling. No one can really know unless they have walked in your shoes. Many lack empathy. That's great being a nurse, as I am a kidney transplant patient with Amyloidosis now. 🌿🕊
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 I have walked in those shoes. And yes, It does take time for those thoughts to subside. I surrendered my life to Christ May 31, 1986. And have not " acted out " since then. Today, I am a Navy Vet, in prison ministry and my wife and I just celebrated our 31st anniversary. We have 2 Beautiful daughters. In my case, it was the environment, and situations that had happened to me that lead me into those behaviors. But like cancer that gets treated with medicine and chemo, then goes into remission; so were those desires the more I received the ' medicine and chemo ' of God through the word, fellowship, and prayer. Today, nearly 37 years later, those desires are virtually non-existent. I have heard of guys practicing abstinence from those desires, and I highly commend them for doing so. Stay close to him my friends. May we all find our hope and strength in him.
@@ericdaily8835 Still a lonely marginalised life for those who don't straighten out and find a woman. I practised celibacy for a decade until last year, but I was still a victim of gossip (or slander) by those Christians who did not believe or trust that my efforts were sincere, as the 'homosexual' label sticks, even more than the label 'Christian,' as they are more likely to believe you are a practising homosexual than a practising Christian. I will never 'belong' among them. After losing a Christian job and being asked to leave a congregation it seems the 'label' sticks.
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Please know that Jesus will never turn away your sincere heart and is so proud of you every time you turn to Him. Praying that God will bring you to a church that treats you as He would.
I have not experienced the unfortunate way people have treated you, but Jesus does love you and is with you as you walk in his will for your life. Surround yourself with other Christians who can support you as you follow his Word.
Just wanted to remind everyone in the comments below as to what sin is. It is when you start defining good and evil under YOUR own terms instead of GODS terms. Therefore, all those here that are arguing that homosexuality is not a sin needs to consider this, are you defining homosexuality under what YOU consider to be good and just or under what GOD considered to be good and just? I think the argument in this video is pretty clear and if you are trying to find loopholes around this, you are obviously misunderstanding something because God has very clearly stated his view. And before anyone comes for me, if you believe otherwise then that is your opinion but this is directed to those who try and twist what has been clearly stated in the bible using other things said in the bible itself!! Christianity is not a pick and choose what you like buffet and ignore all the stuff you don't want to follow. Remember John 1:1- "...the Word was God". God doesn't contradict himself by saying one and then the other and that is all that I will say, God bless xx
As an ex-homosexual, if there's any Christians here who is struggling with same-sex attraction and lust. Just know God is there for you ❤, if u need any advice, feel free to ask 🥰
I'm also a homosexual. I fell in love with a girl, I had romantic experiences even to the point of having actual sex. I did it all to the content of my heart, I had dates with her, we laughed, we talked, we shared pain and joy and all those things under the sun, we enjoyed one another's company, and yes it felt great to be free. In the long run though, I knew deep inside that there's something I just can't fulfill in me. Like I still am searching for something, some unexplainable thing that no matter how much fun we run off to, I just can't shake it away. That's when God came in. The bible isn't a manual for us to stick our noses on and follow every rule as we walk, it simply states the truth so that when we know God, we'll also know His truth. When I had to give up, it did hurt a lot, and it still is hurting, because life isn't perfect, but deep right down, as I walked in a relationship with God, I've never felt so happy before that I was then able to say "No" to what you guys hate saying no to. It's a je ne sais quois feeling that only you, when you taste it, could ever explain. Lastly, if you're still reading 'til this part... I want to compare this with being in a relationship. You hate it when someone limits you when there's really nothing going on between the two of you, right? But when it's the girl you love, or the man of your dreams, you readily do as they demand because of love. So you hate it when God tells you no, because you're not really into Him. But when you knew Him, and you know He loves you and doesn't want you to be put to harm, then you trust Him enough to say no to your desires. This is my 'Love your neighbor as you love yourself' comment.
God always has something better for us. We have to be willing to say "NO" to sin. Learn to trust Him with every aspect of our lives, stay connected to Him, surrounded by healthy believers who have compassion, get strong in His Word of Truth and choose not to compromise. We grow, get stronger and become a light in a dark place. Our struggles have the capability to equip us in helping others. God's amazing love in our lives begins to have a ripple effect for His Glory.
@@pastorbri There are ppl born with a genetic tendency for alcohol addiction. Also ppl who develop pedophalic desires, or serial thieves (desire to seek thrill). There are also some ppl who develop a psychological desire cut human body parts & enjoy the blood spluttering.... So u want us to believe God "made" them this way? And they should just be this way, without seeking God's healing & transformative power? i really hope u can liberate yourself from these lies Brian, by God's help.
@@youngcolt5305 Thats not true. You are confusing things here. If a mother of an unborn baby CHOSE to abuse booze, then the unborn caan be born with thata addiction but it was the choice of the mother, some people are born with addictive personalities but even then they can be trained to be addicted to good things like veg and fruit or Gods word.....peophilia is not what some are born with. But develops from very bad upbringing. Also to aact on it would mean abuse aand raape and child abuse, the fact you link this to 2 men or 2 women in love as if its the same thing shows you have no concept of what love is is a bit scary....I suggest you get educated better and pray to be healed of your stupidity. I really hope u can liberate yourself from these lies young cult, by God's help.
Ty for this well reasoned and succinct video. As someone who has several gay, Christian friends my heart breaks as they ask why they were created with these desires. How hard it's been for them throughout their lives enduring the pressures and guilt their sexual desire has caused them. My heart goes out to them
I was created with a natural desire for the opposite sex and I have to control my wrong desires to multiple girlfriends so guess what so do gay people fact if I can learn to hate what is wrong sexually then so can they and they can learn to be straight fact I know many gay people that have learnt to love what is good and hate what is bad. We all struggle with wrong desires no matter what sexual desire you might have and just because you were born a certain way doesn't make it wrong and it also doesn't make it right just a man said to me once he said I was born with a desire to kill people that piss me off but I don't do it because its wrong. Lmfo...🤣
@@E-SPONGE555 hate the sin, show love for the sinner..never condone it. Never call something that God calls wrong "right"..yep we are ALL sinners and only the grace, forgiveness, and regeneration that comes when we accept the invitation from Christ to be "Born again" can heal us and give us the Godly teaching to walk with Him until he takes us home.
Nice video teaching. Thank you! Here's my 2 cents worth. Whether a person is a Homosexual, a murderer, a rapist or a work related paper clip thief, etc.. etc. Every single human being needs to hear the "Good News" and "believe in the Lord Jesus Christ". Once that person has placed their faith in Jesus the Christ, the Holy Spirit enters and seals that person. It is "He", the Holy Spirit that will effect every aspect of that person's life. He, the Holy Spirit WILL DO any and all changes that need changing in that person. For God alone, IS able! God Bless,
You need to go also with His Church and Became His servant and Chosen thus you will be call Church of Christ.Colossians 1:18Good News Translation (GNT)18 He is the head of his body, the church; he is the source of the body's life. He is the first-born Son, who was raised from death, in order that he alone might have the first place in all things. George Lamsa Translation of the Peshitta Acts 20:28Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood.About sexual sin1 Corinthians 6:9-10Good News Translation (GNT)9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts 10 or who steal or are greedy or are drunkards or who slander others or are thieves-none of these will possess God's Kingdom. 1 Corinthians 7:2Good News Translation (GNT)2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband. Hebrews 10:19-27Good News Translation (GNT)Let Us Come Near to God19 We have, then, my friends, complete freedom to go into the Most Holy Place by means of the death of Jesus. 20 He opened for us a new way, a living way, through the curtain-that is, through his own body. 21 We have a great priest in charge of the house of God. 22 So let us come near to God with a sincere heart and a sure faith, with hearts that have been purified from a guilty conscience and with bodies washed with clean water. 23 Let us hold on firmly to the hope we profess, because we can trust God to keep his promise. 24 Let us be concerned for one another, to help one another to show love and to do good. 25 Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer.26 For there is no longer any sacrifice that will take away sins if we purposely go on sinning after the truth has been made known to us. 27 Instead, all that is left is to wait in fear for the coming Judgment and the fierce fire which will destroy those who oppose God!
WRONG!!! And please don't compare homosexuality to murderer and rapist or similar..its offensive to homosexuals. it's like comparing heterosexuals to rapist amd murdered which it should be being that rapist and murderers are mostly from YOUR side..
lucas hurtado "I don't care what homosexuals say you wanna know the truth all of them are going to hell" Sorry but you and others like you are misinterpreting the word "Truth" in the bible. GOD'S TRUTH is not the TRUTH you and others like you have been posting. You have been taking the word "Truth" out of context. In John 14:6-7, "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you know him and have seen him"
lucas hurtado "tell me where are homosexuals going" Well it's not up to me or anyone to decide, but it's up to god. If you think you're going to heaven just because you're a Christian, you might want to think again cause you may not. Talking bad at homosexuals or telling them to go to hell is not what god wants Christians to behave. In Ephesians 4:29 (ERV - Easy-to-Read Version) "When you talk, don't say anything bad. But say the good things that people need--whatever will help them grow stronger. Then what you say will be a blessing to those who hear you" IF you're a Christian, you're not making any non-believers to have faith and salvation in God. You are only going to push them away because of your negativity. In John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love" If you're not a Christian, then you shouldn't talk against homosexuals or lesbians or anyone by using the bible as a scapegoat.
The rise in homosexuality, and its acceptance by many (if not most) is a _sure_ sign that the current dispensation (the Age of Grace) is about to end. Many Christians think that the Old Testament has little bearing on the modern world, but it is actually _full_ of metaphorical pointers. Biblical Typology is a fascinating subject.
There lies the truth .The bible is a book of two but one is know good without the other . If you find condraditions alway go back to before the trinity
Wow! Amazing! And the best part is that it was explained with the Bible's passages. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18 "But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."
I lived with the identity of a homosexual for 15 years, yet God chose me out of that dark life I used to live. I was empty, wanting to be satisfied by the emptiness I had in my heart for the touch of another man. God filled it, I don't need it from a man anymore. He set me free with the blood of Jesus Christ. Jesus paid much too high a price for me to live in darkness my whole life. I stand as someone who knows what it's like being gay, it's an empty world driven by lust. Although many people attempt to make it work, they will stay empty on the inside seeking ways to fill that emptiness with sex and pornography. It's an endless cycle...Jesus is the way out.
If you can just admit before God and people that it is sinful and you have no excuses, you’re in the boundaries of salvation. We can struggle with sin, for a while, even for years. It keeps us humble and crying out to God. Salvation is from sin first. But we need to recognize sin, call it as it is, express contrition and strive with help of other Christians to overcome it.
this is very much the way I have felt about the subject I am at a point where I am trying to wrap my head around a lit of the changes our society has gone through lately
Amazing video. May every homosexual person know that God loves them and patiently waiting for them to come back to Him. And that the devil is and always been lying to us. God bless you.
May every homophobic person know that God loves them and patiently waiting for them to come back to Him. And that the devil is and always been lying to us. God bless you.
ok, so what about me? I've never experienced sexual attraction twords anyone, but I have had crushes on multiple girls, like I want to cuddle with them, maybe kiss them... but all of those things are purely romantic, not sexual. I am homoromantic, is that a sin in God's eyes? You saying that homosexual relationships are based only on sexual desires? Does that mean that heterosexual relationships are only based on sexual desires, because I know plenty of homosexual relationships that are based on not lust alone, but love.
It's out dated, sex is sex, love is love, both perfectly natural! For some reason people tend to think of a weird sex crazed stereotype when they think of the lgbt+ community. Sexual and romantic attraction are identical to both gay and straight people (and everyone in between!) They exsist, they're natural, they can't 'pray the gay away', they're just people. Don't let anyone tell you who you're 'allowed' to love. It's a wonderful thing
I really liked how you emphasize that it really isn't different from other sexual sins. I think the main controversy comes from when people use scripture to deny it. Then it becomes not only a sexual sin, but a sin of the perversion of the word of God.
Scientists studying the brain have found that there is a difference in the brains of a bisexual, pansexual, homosexual, etc. Also the bible says "Love thy neighbor as you love thy self". The bible also said that God makes no mistakes, so why would he create someone he hates? Honestly, I don't get why a PERSON'S sexuality is up for debate. They were born the way they where. Telling a homosexual to hide their sexuality is like telling a person with brown eyes to hide their eyes. It can be hidden but not changed.
I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals. In beginning of creation God said " Let us make men in Our own image and likeliness." And if you continue reading the book of Genisis you see that God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! And if God made homosexuals "born the way they were" why would He then say that Homosexuality is an abomination? He would lying and contradicting Himself! I do agree with that a persons sexuality should not be under debate, but I will not agree with the statement you made that homosexuals were born that way!
Eliane Azevedo "I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals" And neither heterosexuals were born heterosexuals. Babies don't even know what sexual orientation they are sexually and physically attracted to. It's only when they become adolescent to know what gender they are sexually and physically attracted to. It happens due to the hormonal changes of puberty. "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!" The old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything.
princessivy " the old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything" was the basis of creation showing that only a man ( Adam) and a woman (Eve) can reproduce. And whether or not the adolescents have a change in their hormones in the beginning of my passage I clearly said a persons sexuality is not under debate, while I disagreed with homosexuals being born gay or bisexual so I don't why you are telling me something I already stated.
Eliane Azevedo "while I disagreed with homosexuals being born gay or bisexual so I don't why you are telling me something I already stated" You ignored my response to your "I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals". I responded by saying "And neither heterosexuals were born heterosexuals. I'm trying to explain to you that if homosexuals or bisexuals are not "born that way" then heterosexuals were not born heterosexuals also.
Eliane Azevedo "the old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything" was the basis of creation showing that only a man (Adam) and a woman (Eve) can reproduce" Wrong. The phrase "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" is not in any bible passages. It was originated from Conservative Christians. Yes, God created Adam and Eve, but He did create Steve...and Ellen as well..afterward. He created all people including gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender. And all of these people He created... He loves because God is love and God loves His children. The phrase "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" was to conclude why gay marriages should be banned, saying it undermines the family. But if you are really concerned with the family, you should instead take it to the government to form a bill to make laws banning divorce and remarrying, both sins of adultery. You don't have to have sex to procreate. You can have babies without having sex by using a surrogate mother. You can read this article titled Biological Same-Sex Parent Babies Could Be a Reality by 2017: A scientific breakthrough could offer new hope to same-sex couples and anyone suffering from infertility issues. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/25/biological-same-sex-parent-babies-could-be-a-reality-by-2017
Very amazing video. I love this. All my life I have struggled with what I am. Am I gay or am I straight? I've had a lot of confusion with this especially because of my religion. I love the bible and the meaning it represents and I hate how the world is deviating so far from its message. But I always wondered if I would go to hell? I decided that I will always remain loyal to the lord no matter my imperfections and that I can spread the meaning of the bible and its message of love.
Simon Parker Thank you. Those are very amazing and wise words. And you're spot on, I think you're also correct about Freud coining the term. And that's exactly what I feel is that the Conservative or Democratic views on this aren't correct. Discrimination is bad but so too is pride. I love the Bible quote "Pride leads to ignorance, but with humility comes wisdom." So what I feel like what we should be focusing on is where both sides of the Homosexuality tension are wrong and what we can ALL do to be better people. That's exactly what the sin of Sodom was. It wasn't really Homosexuality, it was pride and perversion.
We all struggle with something. Take everything to the Lord. Place it in His Loving Hands daily. Never stop submitting all of your challenges and struggles to our Mighty King and Savior. Who is always waiting for us to pour out our hearts to Him. The enemy wants you to hold onto to it, to keep you in chains as a hostage. God does NOT need us perfect, He needs us willing. No matter, how many times I have walked away from God (too many to count) He has come after me with a relentless chase and loved me with open arms, cleansed me every time of the world's filth and wrapped me in His Amazing Grace.
Why is the bible any more true than the Torah or the Quran? How do I know that what your religion says about heaven and hell is anymore realistic than the Greek gods of mount olympus
The Krught idk why ur comparing God to Santa. Tbh u sound like a complete fool. But hey I'll give u the benefit of the doubt that ur a kid and u don't know that much about topics you don't know. If u want to prove me wrong, go ahead but FIRST listen to some videos that say the opposite of what you're claiming.
equalism 42 wait I'm confused. So ur claiming since Luke was not born yet to see the birth of Christ, that means Christianity is a hoax? Buddy, c'mon. Luke was one of Jesus' disciples, Luke knew Mary, you know the one who was a virgin when she had Jesus. Joseph, also knowns she was a virgin. + i don't think the 13/20 claim is right but I will look.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Billy Graham said homosexuality is not the ultimate sin. It is a comfort to me somehow. My daughter is transgender, it is heartbreaking, but i love my baby. Seeing her go through depression and suicide attempts because she was so disgusted with her body was hell, and that started around third grade. She is happy now, comfortable in her skin and has the kindest heart. I have nothing but love and compassion for the LGBT community.
I also have a great love and compassion for the LGBTQ community. With a loving heart, I have chosen not to lie to anyone who asks me what God's Word clearly says in Scripture. I would be sinning against God in corrupting Scripture regarding what He has established in His design. May the Holy Spirit lead you in all things and draw you and your beautiful daughter closer to Himself.
Please do not believe in Billy Graham or anyone who says other than what God has mentioned. In this video itself it clearly discussed why Homosexuality is natural or God intended. There is nothing called ultimate sin or in other words there is no grading in sin. Sin is a sin... If you want, we can discuss in detail..
Read your Bible this sin ends in death- does that sound comforting? also read about Sodom, and Gomorrah- also in the new testament In the book of Romans 1:18,24,26-28 so you see God has standards - and if you rebel the consequences is death all these young people that believe that it's ok! will find out the harsh reality... right now they are blinded to the truth.
Nobody ever wants to do the necessary in-depth analysis of the Hebrew wording of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Nor of Deuteronomy 22:5, which doesn't mention anything whatsoever about Crossdressing, but that Israel cannot make a Law that forces Women into the Military. But the first two verses here DO NOT say anything about two males being with each other, sexually. The key word in Leviticus 18:22 is "Mishcabey" which here, has just made its second appearance in the Holy Torah. The first time is at Genesis 49:4 where Reuben loses his Birthright Blessing for having slept with his father Israel's Concubine, Bilhah. It's being used as a replacement word for "Peelegesh" which is the Hebrew word for "A Concubine." And that's not all, but there's more to it than this: the Verb-Phrase in 18:22 of Leviticus is "Lo-Tishcav," meaning simply "you(m) shall not lay..." But the Translators (conveniently maybe?) didn't pay much attention in their Hebrew classes: the Future Tense Verb directed to a Male (2nd person) is also directed to the Female (as the 3rd person). How is this reconciled in Hebrew in order to make a distinction? By use of the Pronoun of HE and/or SHE..! Which by the way, is NOT included in the Verse of Leviticus 18:22, nor in 20:13..!! Well what then does all that mean exactly? It means that NOBODY can lay the Concubine Wife of another person..!!! I wish people would wake up and smell the Coffee of Heaven by doing some serious research into the Hebrew language, it's Usage, Grammar and Morphology. I think it's ironic that fellow Believers always suppose that they can trust their various Translations, but a few of us, like myself, are surprised to find out that it really and truly is the most un-studied Book of ALL TIME. You guys didn't even make mention of what Yeshua (Jesus) said about the "Eunuchs." But I know that you would never connect the word "Eunuch" to what European History used it as; the word for "Homosexual." Boy Howdy, talk about having your head up your butt..! I hate having to make such a crude statement; however, this madness has got to STOP. I am amazed at how even my Great Grandmother knew this stuff. If she hadn't passed it along, I would be as ignorant of this as YOU are. I can only hope you Brothers will get serious about studying the Hebrew language of the Bible. Thank you for your other videos and Shabbat Shalom everyone!
Reading the comments is so painful. Everyone has an opinion that they all think is the right one. The bible says this! The Quran says that! Joe Blogs knows it all! Nothing I can say here will make a blind bit of difference to anyone, but all I know is that some people have morality issues but I can't take the moral high ground because it's impossible to reason with people. Maybe there is a heaven and hell, maybe when we die that's it. Either way, at some point we are going to drop down dead and all of this will not matter. If we end up in a fiery furnace for our immoral actions then only at that moment will we realise we were wrong. On the subject in question. I believe in an intelligent designer, that there is a natural order to things. I believe that humans were made male and female for a reason. To reproduce and populate the planet. It would be absolutely impossible for Adam and Steve or Rachel and Eve to do this. Two men cannot produce babies and neither can two women, unless I missed something in biology? And before anyone tries to throw the phobic card at me, I have friends and family who are openly gay and I love them.
What you stated on the first paragraph is impeccable, you deserve a cheer. But when you turned things around on the second from being neutral to a judge of value, it didn't seem like just a simple "opinion", you said "humans were made male and female for a reason to reproduce and populate the planet" and "two men cannot produce babies and neither can two women, unless I missed something in biology?", despite being something scientifically true, you meant it as something utterly biased, if you have and recognise your gay friends and families, there's no reason to point that out, right? So you know there's more to "reproduce and pass on the genes" in sex right? Since you know two people of the same sex can't reproduce, you should know that there are other means to it, right? I'm not judging you, you just gave me a hypocritical impression, so excuse me if I had it anything wrong.
steven hart welll, welll, of course the last part has to be in this comment, the reason I am here is to point out that you don't accept the way your "family and friends" for who they are, you still think they are unnatural and should be change.....whatever, I'll leave you alone rn
I agree with you full heartedly. I truly do believe god had a plan. Male and female would not exist if it weren't for a reason. Sex is for reproduction. Whether people do it for other reasons is irrelevant. It was an act meant for a women and a man.
+Hannah Burton if you what believe is an opinion, how can you say the other means for sex are irrelevant? And how can you state sex is only meant for reproduction if science haven't proven it and not even God has said so? Whether there's a possibility for an activity, and such possibility makes a consenting couple happy and it's harmless to others, it's not a sin. Our Lord has come down to Earth so he could expand our possibilities to make ourselves and others happy, if he hadn't come, imagine how wicked our place would be!
MattieDee I agree I don't know gods will. We're all trying to follow it however we can. I don't agree that anything that feels good or makes you happy could entirely be the right thing
This is one of the reasons I'm agnostic bordering on atheist. To me it means nothing when someone says God's law or God says or God hates or God likes. Because no one really KNOWS. So many people are so quick to talk about Sin comma but only other people's sins. And they stack the sins up according to their idea of importance or severity. Which means assumption and misinterpretation. This video puts forth so many of those things. So condescending and insulting. I am gay since 3rd grade. Natural.
@@central3425 It was interesting reading my comment after 4 years. Since then I have become full-fledged atheist. Primary purpose of sexual intimacy is social bonding and societal stability, not reproduction. But reproduction has its place, too. It is a positive side-benefit for some. Post-menopausal heterosexual couples still desire to have sex even after they are no longer able to reproduce. In some cases they have NEVER reproduced. Homosexuality exists in EVERY animal species, and in birds, too. So, totally Natural. Nothing needs to be fixed because nothing is broken. Gay men and gay women are too-spirited people, as accepted and supported thousands of years ago by many indigenous peoples and then by many more ethnic groups. We are to be respected and even revered because we embody a larger spectrum of personhood then CIS men and CIS women. We help to keep ALL human configurations, including heterosexual pairings, stable. As gay people and as part of the larger Queer populations, we contribute a disproportionately large amount of creativity and beauty to the world, and we should be appreciated for those contributions as well as for so many more.
@@Rippypoo I pray that you find Jesus Christ, for your own salvation. You seem to misunderstand that Our Father is everything EXCEPT a God of love; through the revelations and suffering of Our Savior Jesus Christ, He alone has ascertained what is and isn't sin--that forms the basis of our faith. It is a complete logical fallacy to appeal to nature; animals do not have a preconceived notion of sexuality, and so are incapable of making informed decisions like we do. We cannot compare the actions of animals, who retain eternal innocence without any immortal soul whatsoever, to the actions of humans, who souls are capable of engaging in decisions that are/are not sinful. Homosexual lifestyles are purely artificial in design, and are entirely sinful. There is nothing "natural" about being a homosexual because it is a purely social inclination; that is to say it is an active choice to be a homosexual--there is no "gay gene." You seem deeply pained, and I hope you get the help you need. Jesus Christ will always be there for you, and it hurts Him to see you turn your back on Him. We are all precious sons and daughters of Christ, and we all commit sin. The difference is in being humbled by this knowledge, and in embracing the forgiveness Our Lord will always offer. Bless.
@@rapecel You are too funny. It was interesting reading my comment again 5 years later. I'm an even stronger atheist now. And what do you mean homosexuality is invented? Who invented it for NATURE? It occurs in virtually every species of creature on this Earth. You going to send animals and birds to Hell, too? What a farce. 5 years ago we weren't in danger of losing democracy totally. Republicans are all turning into Fascists and Christian Nationalism AKA Christo-Fascism is worse now than ever. Complete idiots walking around with guns and screaming Jesus. I want no part of that. Go proselytize somebody else. Please don't talk about love. Religion today in this country is only hate, indoctrination and death. ✌️
@@Rippypoo You continue to facilitate a strawman because of political trivialities. Homosexuality is socially artificial because it is a byproduct of sexual identity--nothing in nature exhibits a sexual identity like humans. All evidence of animals portraying homosexual behavior is impulsivity; animals do not actively "choose" to be gay. This is purely because homosexuality is an invention of SOCIETY, a deeply sinful and unfaithful society. Homosexuality is also encouraged by more undisciplined principles in human behavior. There is no coincidence that since the increased introduction of pornography since the 1970s there has been an increase in homosexual behavior. The average homosexual overwhelmingly reports high pornography consumption compared to your average heterosexual American, with most studies showing that higher pornography consumption is associated with increased sexual deviancy. I do not appreciate your ad hominins however. Calling me a fascist because I desire your salvation is a deeply twisted and morally unpalatable thing to do, of which has become far too often in any online discussion. If you cannot separate your religion from your politics perhaps being a homosexual is the least of your problems. I thought by showing you this respect in my original reply, you would do the same; however it seems I am completely wrong. I pray that you find mercy and forgiveness, and that you realize how much you have hurt Christ by pushing him away. Bless.
first, Homosexuality is not just sexual desire, lust but love. you made it like it was purely animalistic instinct for sex. second, You made it as it is on my control and i simply change it. But it's not! it is not my choice, i didnt decided "oh i'll like men". third, Why on earth we'll chosing the side where we condemn to hell ?? fourth, so homosexuality is fine if you are a woman ?
I struggle so much because of this.. one person says this and the othe says that and all I keep thinkig about is if Ill end up in hell because of something I cant control... and ik how it sounds like "desire" but I cant like girls.. that IS unnatural for me because I dont feel that way... I cant mentally nor physically force myself to do that God knows I would if I could.. I dont want to go to hell..
Jonathan Ramirez Same Sex Attraction is not a sin. We're all sinful, and we all have weaknesses big or small is certain areas of our lives. (Some people get really jealous, some are 'natural' worrying people and can't help it etc etc) God is not going to send you to hell because of the fleshly weaknesses that you have. He hates the idea that anyone would perish. We all have our own burdens. But what I think is important is a strong church family, strong connections and friendships.
Jonathan Ramirez Same Sex Attraction is not a sin. We're all sinful, and we all have weaknesses big or small is certain areas of our lives. (Some people get really jealous, some are 'natural' worrying people and can't help it etc etc) God is not going to send you to hell because of the fleshly weaknesses that you have. He hates the idea that anyone would perish. We all have our own burdens. But what I think is important is a strong church family, strong connections and friendships. God will help you out.
+Jonathan Ramirez hello Jonathan no its not a sin to be same sex attracted when it does become sin is when you act on that feeling, even Christians have a feeling of doing sinful things but we resist because of our love for God and he gives us strength to do so i know it can't be easy for you and youtube is not the forum i feel is appropriate for this conversation but i feel for you and really encourage you to pray to God about it for strength and peace with this and hopefully talk to someone you respect and are comfortable with ill pray for you jonathan
Thanks for the video. But you have to consider what gays have done for you. Gays entertain you through song (Sam smith), Gays design the clothes u are wearing now (DnG), gays do a good job as a make up artist, gays are scientist, etc. When you say that gays are condemned by God without considering their good deed, you're just being so mean while taking advantage from them. And I think this is also one of the a reasons why Chistians are leaving the church. Good job!
This is NOT about hate. It is about design. There is a Designer, Who designed humanity with purpose and intent. God is gracious and a super Gentleman. He forces no one to love Him. He forces no one to agree with Him or even accept Him. All free will. True love comes with free will. Hearts come willingly and not by force. So, enjoy His love, not to love Him. Enjoy His love, not to agree with Him. Enjoy His love, not to accept Him. Enjoy His love that allows you the opportunity to be free of Him for an eternity by rejecting Him. God is a Gentleman and forces no one.
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Summary: the bible says this, therefore we should do it. How do you have a conversation with someone like that? There really is no reason for action or beliefs other than because it says so in the bible. "Stand to reason" lol
STRvideos Cool beans. I agree that this video isn't persuasive for those who are not Christian--but this video does seem to be about how to communicate what the Bible "teaches" to other people, and that is what my comment was in reference to.
linuxisbetter0 At the risk of sounding pedantic, the video explains to Christians (using biblical arguments) why they should argue in favor of God's standards for sexual conduct. The video doesn't really go into deep, exhaustive depth about *how* to argue the point; it mostly explains *why* to argue the point. There's going to be some overlap between the "why" and the "how," but this video is pretty much an exhortation from the coach to the team to get off the bench and get in the game.
*Summary: The bible says this, therefore we believe we should do it because we believe it to be the word of God. The Christian faith is not about dictating the actions of others. Nor is it about following a strict set of rules. Christ himself made it clear that even the initial ten commandments no longer needed to be adhered to so long as we (in his words) "Love your neighbour as you do yourself" and "Love God with all your heart" We don't follow the bible simply because we see it as a set of rules we must follow in order to reach heaven. We follow it because we believe that there is a creator of the entire universe who created all life and has chosen us to give eternal life to all of us. If such an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent does indeed exist, most would obviously trust Him enough to believe he knows what is best for us. If that means we put our faith in him and deny certain urges, so be it. If you were to tell a drug addict that his habit will lead to his death, he'd likely continue to consume. Though a small part of him would know deep down that it was true. Given that we believe all sin is the same, no matter its content, it seems evident to us Christians that abstaining from one sin (say drug addictions, sexual promiscuity and unprovoked violence) while ignoring what the bible says about another (homosexuality for instance) and continuing to engage in that would no doubt put us in bad light in the eyes of our Lord.
Wait, so you come to a video titled "The Bible and Homosexuality" and then you complain that the video tells you what the bible says about homosexuality? What were you expecting?
yes, its about love, acceptance and forgiveness, I m a Christian ,I had some friends that are homosexual. god what me to love them and accept them. galactian 5
I am sorry, but this is too short by the bend. You cannot (and the Bible doesn't!!) put on one line homosexuality and adultary. The big difference is that adultery is an act, a choice, while homosexuality is inherent to who you are and born with. This is what you at least should take into serious consideration before you call it so bluntly a sin.
I truly, truly hate to say something on here because internet arguments result in nothing, but here is some food for thought. Many people in defense of homosexuality say that since they were born that way, it is not a sin, and they should be accepted. While this makes sense in theory, in practice, it does not. Take disabilities for example. Many people are born blind or deaf or mentally impaired, making their lives difficult and painful. Under the logic of "they were born this way," these people should stay this way. We should not help them. We should not cure them. We should let them live the way they are. Clearly, this thought process wrong! People are not born perfect; this is a fact. This is the human dilemma, nay, the human condition. People are not meant to live in their flaws and embrace them, they must overcome them. And whether that flaw is physically being blind or mentally being homosexual, humans must not accept their flaws, but rise above them.
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. There are only 5 or so references which can be used against gay people: 1) Genesis It's a condemnation of gang rape. 2) & 3) Leviticus This is part of the Holiness Code, and not the Moral Code, which means it has nothing to do with morality and is meant only for the Jews. The term translated to 'as with' means bed every other time it's used in Leviticus and when Paul referred to this passage (see my Corinthians comments) he wrote bed. There's also no way any Hebrew term can be translated to specifically mean "as with" since there are no Hebrew terms for words like "as" nor "with". The term used for abomination can only be found to convey ritual transgressions and the term for a moral transgression was not used. 4) Romans It's a clear cut condemnation of Pagan idolatry. Both gay and straight sex rituals were used in their idol worship. There's a good reason why homophobes only give the "for this reason" part without giving the reason. 5) Corinthians Paul stated "male bed" and "soft" (as in morals or fabric - this term is never used to mean some sort of mannerism.) The meaning of the two terms has been lost to history, all we do know if Paul was referring to that Leviticus passage. This passage was condemning masturbation instead of homosexuality less than 100 years ago. Before that, in the 16th century, it was condemning pedophilia and in the medieval times it was pimping. Jesus mentions homosexuality as least twice, if not three times. He refers to gay men as born eunuchs in Matthew 19, one of the 3 types of men not made for marrying women. He meets a gay man, via the Roman Centurion trying to heal his 'pais', and says of him, "Never have I seen faith greater than this." Neither time does he condemn. There's also research that "raca", when He states "Whomever calls his brother raca..", is the word we have as the f-word today. The greatest, most passionate love story in the Bible is between two men. Never at any point in history have two men held each other, kissing and weeping while telling each other their love for one another surpassed that of any woman nor have two men been alone in private where one takes off all of his clothes and gives it to other as a sign of devotion unless those two men were gay or bisexual.
You are picking and choosing what to put in the bible clearly states that a man that lies with another man like he lays with a woman should put to death. And the bible is inspired by God so therefore God condones the killing of gays. Don't pick and choose what to put in your message this my problem with religion
Clinton Morgan It also states adulterers should be stoned to death but odd how we don't hear any right-wing Christian, who is most likely on their 3rd marriage, discussing that scripture.
You don't have to like it you just have to follow sometimes. It's confusing for me as a gay christian but in the end you just gotta think what is more important; the now or the eternity? Of course there's absolutely no way I'm going to tell me other gay atheistic friends to stop being gay because really there's no point in me stopping them. They're living in sin whether or not they're gay unless they come to god. I think that's the point many Christians don't realise. When we see someone else's sin that is open and obvious we judge them because we're too afraid to see that we're just as bad as they are. One of my friends got pregnant before she married and like the loving person she was she decided to take responsibility for the baby and continue living for god. She could have easily aborted and pretended like it had never happened but she decided to keep it and got engaged to the man who got her pregnant. What did the church do? Well they all looked at her when she walked into church and the whole place was silent and judging. If that's the kind of church we have in these days I think we need to pray to God for a change. Just because their sin is more open than your sin doesn't make anyone worse or better. That goes the same with gay people. We need to stop preaching hate and start preaching the gospel aka the good news about ALL sinners being saved. Don't make them stop being gay. That's something they need to do on their own once they come to Christ. That's something that's between God and them. You can help them out like any friend helping out a Christian friend who is struggling with a sin but don't force your atheistic gay friends to stop being gay! You'll just look pretentious and stupid. You can give them your opinion but in the end it's God who changes a person's heart.
HAHAHAH i make ur words mine, thats what this video was only about, it passed so many misinterpreted things from this corrupted modern bible, they don't even know the translation for "arsenokoites" isn't actually homosexuality.
+L.J. Palacios oh hi, ive given up for a while talking on this subject cus it was giving me headaches, so in response ill only leave a video here to ya: What Does the Bible Really Says About Being Gay, from LoveThinks. Cya!
No shutting down of discussions here...If an LGBT+ person agrees, then they agree. But to agree with something that basically denies your genuine exsistance, excludes you from 'gods plan' and supports a religion that is inherently homophobic is just plain silly. Would a black person support the kkk? Would a muslim support Trump? Would a Jew support Nazis? The answer is yes, such people exsist! But it's a paradox.
For the gay viewers out there; (I am not one) I think it is important to note in these types of videos that all gay people are welcome in Church. Jesus loves and accepts them and that if they accept Jesus into their heart then gay people go to heaven too. Even if they never defeat being gay. In the same way that I am a liar and a luster, I know my name is written in the book of life because Jesus paid for our sins on the cross.
Yeah as a gay man who grew up Christian and studied the context behind those passages, this is straight up offensive. It's condescending and ridiculously reductionist. Many Christians believe that the love between two people of any kind is holy. Matthew 22:36-40 36 “Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” 37 Jesus replied, “‘You must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself. 40 The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” God is love and obeying these two commandments fulfils all of the law. Being in a loving monogamous relationship is not a sin.
Is anyone else in these comments hella gay?? Also, the fact that there's a lot of hate dedicated to our community is sad. You know, people are getting killed just for being gay? We just want to live our lives, and we don't need your sympathy or for you to pray for us. Also, LGBT+ kids get a lot more hate than heterosexual/ cis people, god wouldn't have wanted this. Ultimately, the world would be such a better place if all hate was gone. We should just support each other, and love one another.
Ok so people, to think about this video pls consider the folllowing word, "Love" You can interptate this word with the meaning you like. I think God loves us all, doesn't matter if you're a rapist, murderer or robber, he loves us equally and sees the good In us and when it comes to judgement it's really hard for him to choose which one of his CHILDREN goes to spend eternal torture in hell or spend eternity in heaven.
yes..we need to spread lv..GOD'S lv n mercy towards others who think different dan us..n mayb our genuine lv n concern fo der soul wil mk dm realize that drs smthn very beautiful n comforting about dis GOD(JESUS) whom we serve n adore(..n yes im a catholic..we pray in THE HOLY SPIRIT too).
You quote only part of the passage in Leviticus. In the same chapter, it states that planting 2 different seeds in the same hole is an abomination as is eating pork--most would agree this is ridiculous.. Why ignore those and home in on the one about homosexuality? Do we pick and choose which parts of the Bible we accept and ignore the rest?
+Scott Laws - Yes, this is really the crux of the argument: are you going to pick and choose which parts of the Law to live? Condemn homos because of Leviticus? Ok, then no Red Lobster or Grand Slam breakfast, and you've got to bring that bratty teen of yours before the elders to be stoned to death. And that whole wearing phylacteries to work thing. Doing all that, too? Let's revisit James 2:8-10. Then there's the detail that the old covenant is passed and sticking to it is pretty much telling Christ you don't need his sacrifice you'll do it yourself thank you very much. Galatians 2:21 is a good place to start in testing that notion.
those were for the jews back then and some other laws are still in act for everyone though. to find out if its either or you have to look at scripture in context and study intensely with Holy Spirit giving you revelation on scripture.
Wow. 1300+ comments. Lots of drama. Lots of anger. Lots of stubbornness. Also, lots of loving kindness in there. hmmm ... One manifestation of my sinful nature is alcoholism. It's been 5 years since I practiced the sin which is my nature to practice. I have risen above what is natural for me, and, with God's help, am now living by a standard higher than my nature. I have alcoholic friends who are still actively drinking. Mostly they know that their drinking is bad for them and that it hurts others. I do not hate them or dislike them or look down on them simply because they have not found a connection with God sufficient to conquer their sin of alcoholism. I do my best to show loving kindness to them. I do my best to help them, but try not to enable them in their sin. (I am probably found more often on the side of enabling the I would like.) I hate the sin. It can be such a devastating sin. But I love the sinner and would do anything in my power to free him from the sin of alcoholism. Homosexuality is just a different manifestation of that sinful nature that all people are born with. Is the homosexual born a homosexual? Of course, he is (or she).Should sin be accepted, condoned, overlooked, encouraged, called 'not sin', or enabled simply because we are born that way? Of course not! I was born an alcoholic, but today I do not live that way. We are all, yes every person without exception, called by God to put off our old sinful nature and be holy like God. We cannot do this until we call sin 'sin'. If you are a homosexual, welcome to the human race - you are a sinner just like the rest of us - forgiveness and conquering of sin can be found in Jesus Christ. If you regularly practice homosexual behavior then your are committing sin and rebelling against God to follow your own nature, your own desires, your plan, not God's plan. I suspect most folks can guess the rest of the schpiel. A choice must be made every day of our lives - do it my way or do it God's way. The bible is quite clear what God's way is in most areas of life, including alcoholism and homosexuality. You must simply choose to accept it or reject it, but remember - acceptance is too difficult for us without God's help, but to him who knocks the door will be opened. Peace to you all!
shadypenguinX Hmm... what do you mean by loving ? I feel like a good Smell test is to replace "someone of the same sex" by "someone other than my spouse". And I don't think your statement works anymore really
You say that by having a relationship with another man I am saying no to the plan God had for me from the start. But if He had that plan for me, how come in my whole life, not a single woman has ever come close to sexually attracting or arousing me? And how did he make me (genetics around 30%) and allow me to become (environmental factors in my early life, also beyond my control - around 70%) powerfully sexually attracted to other men? That was a very strange way of revealing His plan for me. You say that going against God's plan for you is saying NO to GOD. What about some poor guy for whom God''s plan was lifelong chastity but who instead gets married? Surely he is saying no to God as much as I am? Also I get that married couples have the golden ticket and can do what they want. I get that. Only such blatant favouritism can explain why the Protestant Church is fine with Christian couples using contraception throughout their married lives in blatant defiance of the command n Genesis 1 to be fruitful and multiply. They have all the fun of sex but none of the responsibilities of it. Incredible!
I happen to disagree with the whole video because well, its another word for word in the bible with very little research. I still love that you are trying to answer the question.
The human male and female bodies scream out heterosexual design. That is just a fact, not an opinion. Science of the human body declares the reproductive system of the human species heterosexual. Fact, not opinion.
I was hoping this carefully written video would have covered the peculiar passages of Leviticus 20:12-14, but most relevantly, 20:13, which states: _If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them._ (From biblehub.com; New American Standard Bible) These passages are a set of explicit instructions of how to punish specific sexual acts. Was this punishment appropriate for that time? Should this be appropriate now? These are important questions that I am disappointed the video didn't bother discussing.
@@pastorbri Thanks for responding to my curiosity. I'm also interested in your thoughts about the other question: "Was this punishment appropriate for this time?" (Was the old law fair and just?)
This video also claimes that Paul stated that homosexuals will not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, they are claiming that even if you are a homosexual and do not have homosexual sex, or even if you are a homosexual and have had homosexual sex and repented for it, you have no chance of entering into heaven because you are still a homosexual.
@ifihadahammer7856 : The same must be true for LIARS then, as the Bible says in the book of Revelation that ALL LIARS will be cast into the lake of fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 That would include ALL those who LIE to children wilfully, repetitively and unrepentantly without remorse about Santa Claus and his flying reindeer. The lake of fire awaits. They are still LIARS. 🎅
Ime 'Gay & glad I am, as its not just black & white, right or wrong, its nearly 8 billion shades of grey, there are so many other books written far more recent using logic from Mans viewpoint, the bible was wrote by Men, Men are full of sin as all Man is, no one is close to the glory of God, no not one is even close! "To Err is Human", who says that a couple of lines taken out of one book' the 'bible is absolute in its knowledge of being born Gay, ive always been Gay as far bk as I remember & even when I prayed to God for help in the mid 70s at 15 yrs old to make Me str8 it didn't work as at 18 yrs old I came out, I was so lonely for another & the need for the love of another Man as I wasn't attracted to the opposite sex at all, so they were not speaking to what is today called the Gay folk, they were speaking to those men who were married & had Children but still bedded other Men, ive never been like that & its always been 'love' for Me, My partner & I have been together now for 33 yrs & though in our younger yrs we showed our love in a physical way as all young Men do' we don't now but only because our love has surpassed the physical need, life so many 1000s of yrs ago is Alien compared to life today, there are far too many ppl on Earth now as its overpopulated, what would it be like if all Gay Men & Women got married to the opposite sex & had Children? There would be close to 11 billion ppl on Earth now, that would destroy the very home God made for Us, ppl would starve at an increasing rate & life would be untenable, this maybe Natures way of controling over population, whatever' love is the way the truth & the light, no Man comes unto the father but by Me"John 14 v 6! 'Amen!🕆🛐
Homosexuality and other sins are on the rise and it's the right time to explain this kind of stuff. Creator God gave us life and so he knows what is best he loves his children is always watching over us, he is patient, gentle and wise. 🌹
This is a somewhat counter-argument video to the video by LoveThinks "What Does the Bible Really Say About Being Gay". Undoubtedly homosexuality is a controversial topic even within the Christian community. However, I would like the maker of this video to actually read the verses in NT that those passages refers to idolatry not homosexuality being a sin. There are many Christians today who uses these verses out of context to justify their argument. Our own interpretation of the Bible do somewhat depends on our own individual's political ideologies.
i hope everyone understand that christians absolutely do not hate homosexual people. (i myself have LGBT friends) homosexuality is a satanic spirit within a person. although that may sound ridiculous, we're certainly NOT talking about the flesh, we're talking abiut the SPIRIT. there's a very strong difference between the two. why many people get angry about this idea is that its because they only see it in terms of flesh and they refuse to take into account the spiritual reason. if i was to explain christian perspective on homosexuality in a 'flesh' perspective it would be something like how people hate the fact that someone has cancer, but they connot hate the person for having it.
There's a lot of silly in this but there is a truth. All struggle with sexuality and nothing exempts you from the God's law. No matter where you come from, you must move towards God's grace. We are all born "that" way.
As a muslims we believe the Bibel more than you Bibel and Quran No homosexuality don't alcohol drink Don't eat swine meet No adultery but you don't believe your book then we are the real ones
The Bible has contradictions. In John 3:16 the Bible says that God loves everyone with a saving love while other verses says that he only loves the elect with a saving love.
I’m going to assume that you are talking about Ephesians 1:4-5 and Romans 8:28-30. The Bible does say that we are predestinated. And the Bible says that God loved the whole world. This is an apparent contradiction. But when you look at the attributes of God in relation to man, it makes perfect sense. First. God is love. This is stated many times throughout Scripture one being John 3:16 another being 1John 4:7-8. God loves everyone and that is why He sent His only begotten Son to save us. Second. God is Holy. That means that He cannot be in the presence of sin. This creates a problem for mankind because the Bible clearly states that all have sinned. But God in His Love provided a way for our son debt to be paid for-and the only way is Jesus (John 14:1-6) But getting to the “contradiction” of predestination. We must realize that God is Omniscient-or all knowing. So when the Bible says that we were predestinates to become children of God. Or that we were chosen from the foundations. It isn’t saying that God chose us to save and only loves the chosen. Here the Bible is saying that from the beginning, God in his Omniscience knew who would reject Him and who would accept Him. But even those who reject God, God still loves them and gives them a way to get to Heaven. The Bible says whosoever will May come. That is the message of Jesus. Jesus didn’t come to condemn us to hell like some think-we were already condemned and separated from God because of our sin. The purpose of Jesus coming was to save us from our sins and reconcile us to God so that we can spend forever with Him in Heaven.
The most you have with Paul here (if you were to pay more attention to his words than what you want to make of them) is that male homosexuality is a sin. But why should we believe a man who said women must keep their heads covered in church and keep quiet there? And what does Paul say about lesbianism? Anything? And the book of Leviticus? Do you even attempt to keep all the barmy rules in that book? You might want to start thinking and feeling like a Christian instead of a lawyer trying to win a case so he doesn't have to admit he was ever wrong about anything. You need to understand that God gave you a conscience, and that you need to consult it. Stop slandering his creatures. This is sinful and does not please the Lord.
Thank you for a very objective and clear presentation of Biblical references. Fair, true and not judgmental. I am in the opinion that, homosexuality in itself isn't a sin but it is the homosexual lifestyle that is. A homosexual trying to live a chaste life is no different from a heterosexual who is also, based on the Bible, supposed to refrain from any sexual activity outside of marriage. A homosexual who carries himself/herself in a respectable manner is no different from a heterosexual who also doesn't behave in a manner that brings into question his/her Christian personality. I believe a homosexual can be a devout Christian as long as he/she avoids the same things that the Bible says every person, regardless of sexual orientation, should.
srsly, who was there to live through it to even hear god say "you should love opposite" and "you can't love THEM". I'm sorry Jesus diggity brah but, love is love, its like you let something evolve on its own, you should have done something by now if its a sin.
i appreciate that you said it's important to treat people with love no matter what mistakes they make and that you express your opinion on such a controversal topic. i was struggeling a long time with finding an opinion on this topic. seing that homosexuality is a characteristic that reaches deep into the soles of gay and lesbian people i found it hard to imagine god would refuse to love these people the way he created them. but as i love the bible i wanted to find what god sais about this topic in the bible. therefore i was confused because of the verses you also quoted in this video. how could these short sentences in leviticus that prohibiting gay sex be an appropriate way to deal with such a complex issue? in the end i talked to a theology student and also heard to lectures of a theology professor about this topic. i understood you can't know what the bible want's to say without knowing about the historical background and the reality of the people for whom were written these verses in first place. i believe the bible does have pofound wisdom for us today but it's way to easy and not adequate at all to just take these 2000 year old sentences without considering the context. in the ancient workd everyone was forced by there parents to marry by the age of about 14. there were no homosexual couples. in all languages of this time there wasn't a word for homosexuality at all. so the only things they knew were pagan cults including gay sex and probably sometimes it ocurred that sometimes two gay men accidentally met and somehow felt attracted to each other (probably not really knowing what it means to be gay at all) and had sex. in this case they were betraying there wifes. plus there was raping of men by other men as a kind of sexual violence (like exists in prisons today. this is also is no homosexuality but a way of psychologically distructing men). for these cases hoosexual sex was prohibited. not for gay or lesbian couples living in a deep relationship conparable to a normal marriage and beeing faithful to each other. that's something that didn't exist in these times and therefore never was a topic to speak about. in the new testament things changed a bit. when paul is refering to those people having unnatural intercourse he talks about the rich society that's totally decadent and somehow started to have homosexual sex during orgys as some kind of extra pleasure to their marriages. there were poor male prostitutes that made their livings by having sex with rich men. and also women did this stuff. so also paul is not talking about a deep relationship based on love between homosexual persons. and that's also the point ehy there's no sense in talking jesus' words about man and woman becoming one flesh and pointing out the meaning man and man or woman and woman can't become one flesh. this was never an issue in these times. that's probably why jesus didn't think it's necessary to talk about these things. so right now for me the answer to the question "what does the bible say to homosexuallity" is "nothing". the bible doesn't say anything about homosexuallity in the way we understand this word today as it doesn't say anything aboyt cars or computers. the bible says a lot about love and jesus stresses the importance of faithfullness. these terms are surely also important for homosexual relations. (btw the term marriage is also a lot different in ancient times compared to what it's now but that's another topic) however, i'm not an expert on these topics. so i more or less repeated the arguments i heared from people having hughe knowledge of these things. but i hope someone will take his time to read my comment and start to think about these things in a different way. the bible is precious. but it's also very complex. excuse for grammar mistakes - i'm actually german :D
actually the bible talks directly about that subject especially in leviticus, it is inherently unnatural and always brought negative effects to its victims, humans are meant to be male and female
You say here that you take accurate Biblical knowledge and temper it with wisdom. But surely the Bible itself is wisdom? You say that you give the information in a way that shows respect for people. But surely the Bible itself is the ultimate respecter of human dignity in the image of God? I am so confused here.
I struggle so much because of this.. one person says this and the other says that and all I keep thinkig about is if Ill end up in hell because of something I cant control... and ik how it sounds like "desire" but I cant like girls.. that IS unnatural for me because I dont feel that way... I cant mentally nor physically force myself to do that God knows I would if I could.. I dont want to go to hell..
Here are some common questions and helpful resources on biblical sexuality:
Is the Sin of Homosexuality Singled Out?
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A Question to Ask Those Who Adopt Pro-Gay Theology
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Marriage Doctrine Alone Disqualifies Pro-Gay Theology
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How Should You Talk to a Friend Who’s Gay?
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Aren’t the Apostle Paul’s Sexual Ethics Outdated?
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When It Comes to Homosexuality, the Bible Addresses Behavior
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Be Willing to Submit to Our Good God on the Issue of Homosexuality
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If you are not LGBTQ and have not been in the lifestyle it is so easy to say "just stop" or "it's a mind thing", it is so much more to it. I have had an attraction to the same sex and opposite sex for as long as I can remember, I am a man and carry myself as one. I have also been called names, talked bad to by family, disowned, been the topic in church, even had a close family member speak a word of death over my life, my dad is a pastor and he was one of the only people that didn't talk bad to me but instead encouraged me to PUSH and continue to worship. I have gone in and out of depression, contemplated taking my own life multiple times. I am a very spiritual person, (not a fan of religion), I feel the presence of the Holy Spirit in me and am convicted. I have found my ministry in being a nurse and do find myself at times speaking to my patients about the goodness of God and praying with them. I gave up along time ago with trying to become a "straight" man and allowing other people to condemn me. Instead I practice abstinence, I go deep into worship and for the most part try to be guided. Yes I still talk to guys and I lay out what I do and don't but I have made up in my mind that this whole thing is a process and will take time. It keeps me sane and allows me to grow closer to God through Jesus with the Holy Spirit as my guide. My goal is not to be a "straight" man but one that causes Gods heart to smile, I am blessed, I do have a purpose, and I am a child of God
I have had similar experiences to yourself, including the "bad talk" and name-calling.
No one can really know unless they have walked in your shoes. Many lack empathy.
That's great being a nurse, as I am a kidney transplant patient with Amyloidosis now. 🌿🕊
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 I have walked in those shoes. And yes, It does take time for those thoughts to subside. I surrendered my life to Christ May 31, 1986. And have not " acted out " since then. Today, I am a Navy Vet, in prison ministry and my wife and I just celebrated our 31st anniversary. We have 2 Beautiful daughters. In my case, it was the environment, and situations that had happened to me that lead me into those behaviors. But like cancer that gets treated with medicine and chemo, then goes into remission; so were those desires the more I received the ' medicine and chemo ' of God through the word, fellowship, and prayer. Today, nearly 37 years later, those desires are virtually non-existent. I have heard of guys practicing abstinence from those desires, and I highly commend them for doing so. Stay close to him my friends. May we all find our hope and strength in him.
@@ericdaily8835 Still a lonely marginalised life for those who don't straighten out and find a woman. I practised celibacy for a decade until last year, but I was still a victim of gossip (or slander) by those Christians who did not believe or trust that my efforts were sincere, as the 'homosexual' label sticks, even more than the label 'Christian,' as they are more likely to believe you are a practising homosexual than a practising Christian. I will never 'belong' among them.
After losing a Christian job and being asked to leave a congregation it seems the 'label' sticks.
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Please know that Jesus will never turn away your sincere heart and is so proud of you every time you turn to Him. Praying that God will bring you to a church that treats you as He would.
I have not experienced the unfortunate way people have treated you, but Jesus does love you and is with you as you walk in his will for your life. Surround yourself with other Christians who can support you as you follow his Word.
Just wanted to remind everyone in the comments below as to what sin is. It is when you start defining good and evil under YOUR own terms instead of GODS terms. Therefore, all those here that are arguing that homosexuality is not a sin needs to consider this, are you defining homosexuality under what YOU consider to be good and just or under what GOD considered to be good and just?
I think the argument in this video is pretty clear and if you are trying to find loopholes around this, you are obviously misunderstanding something because God has very clearly stated his view.
And before anyone comes for me, if you believe otherwise then that is your opinion but this is directed to those who try and twist what has been clearly stated in the bible using other things said in the bible itself!! Christianity is not a pick and choose what you like buffet and ignore all the stuff you don't want to follow.
Remember John 1:1- "...the Word was God". God doesn't contradict himself by saying one and then the other and that is all that I will say, God bless xx
As an ex-homosexual, if there's any Christians here who is struggling with same-sex attraction and lust. Just know God is there for you ❤, if u need any advice, feel free to ask 🥰
"ex-homosexual" 🤣No, you aren't! And that's fine, but, come on, man!
A lot of Christian gays I think like the person and it goes from there. People genuinely like people and the sex just follows.
@@MelindaSordinoIsLiterallyMe What so people can’t change? So then why do Straights become gays? But gays not become straights?
I'm also a homosexual. I fell in love with a girl, I had romantic experiences even to the point of having actual sex. I did it all to the content of my heart, I had dates with her, we laughed, we talked, we shared pain and joy and all those things under the sun, we enjoyed one another's company, and yes it felt great to be free. In the long run though, I knew deep inside that there's something I just can't fulfill in me. Like I still am searching for something, some unexplainable thing that no matter how much fun we run off to, I just can't shake it away. That's when God came in.
The bible isn't a manual for us to stick our noses on and follow every rule as we walk, it simply states the truth so that when we know God, we'll also know His truth.
When I had to give up, it did hurt a lot, and it still is hurting, because life isn't perfect, but deep right down, as I walked in a relationship with God, I've never felt so happy before that I was then able to say "No" to what you guys hate saying no to. It's a je ne sais quois feeling that only you, when you taste it, could ever explain.
Lastly, if you're still reading 'til this part... I want to compare this with being in a relationship. You hate it when someone limits you when there's really nothing going on between the two of you, right? But when it's the girl you love, or the man of your dreams, you readily do as they demand because of love. So you hate it when God tells you no, because you're not really into Him. But when you knew Him, and you know He loves you and doesn't want you to be put to harm, then you trust Him enough to say no to your desires.
This is my 'Love your neighbor as you love yourself' comment.
if you was gay it is how God made ya to be
@@pastorbri God doesn't make people sinful, I think you're a little off
God always has something better for us. We have to be willing to say "NO" to sin. Learn to trust Him with every aspect of our lives, stay connected to Him, surrounded by healthy believers who have compassion, get strong in His Word of Truth and choose not to compromise. We grow, get stronger and become a light in a dark place. Our struggles have the capability to equip us in helping others. God's amazing love in our lives begins to have a ripple effect for His Glory.
@@pastorbri There are ppl born with a genetic tendency for alcohol addiction. Also ppl who develop pedophalic desires, or serial thieves (desire to seek thrill). There are also some ppl who develop a psychological desire cut human body parts & enjoy the blood spluttering.... So u want us to believe God "made" them this way? And they should just be this way, without seeking God's healing & transformative power? i really hope u can liberate yourself from these lies Brian, by God's help.
@@youngcolt5305 Thats not true. You are confusing things here. If a mother of an unborn baby CHOSE to abuse booze, then the unborn caan be born with thata addiction but it was the choice of the mother, some people are born with addictive personalities but even then they can be trained to be addicted to good things like veg and fruit or Gods word.....peophilia is not what some are born with. But develops from very bad upbringing. Also to aact on it would mean abuse aand raape and child abuse, the fact you link this to 2 men or 2 women in love as if its the same thing shows you have no concept of what love is is a bit scary....I suggest you get educated better and pray to be healed of your stupidity. I really hope u can liberate yourself from these lies young cult, by God's help.
Ty for this well reasoned and succinct video. As someone who has several gay, Christian friends my heart breaks as they ask why they were created with these desires. How hard it's been for them throughout their lives enduring the pressures and guilt their sexual desire has caused them. My heart goes out to them
I was created with a natural desire for the opposite sex and I have to control my wrong desires to multiple girlfriends so guess what so do gay people fact if I can learn to hate what is wrong sexually then so can they and they can learn to be straight fact I know many gay people that have learnt to love what is good and hate what is bad. We all struggle with wrong desires no matter what sexual desire you might have and just because you were born a certain way doesn't make it wrong and it also doesn't make it right just a man said to me once he said I was born with a desire to kill people that piss me off but I don't do it because its wrong. Lmfo...🤣
@@E-SPONGE555 hate the sin, show love for the sinner..never condone it. Never call something that God calls wrong "right"..yep we are ALL sinners and only the grace, forgiveness, and regeneration that comes when we accept the invitation from Christ to be "Born again" can heal us and give us the Godly teaching to walk with Him until he takes us home.
Nice video teaching. Thank you! Here's my 2 cents worth. Whether a person is a Homosexual, a murderer, a rapist or a work related paper clip thief, etc.. etc. Every single human being needs to hear the "Good News" and "believe in the Lord Jesus Christ". Once that person has placed their faith in Jesus the Christ, the Holy Spirit enters and seals that person. It is "He", the Holy Spirit that will effect every aspect of that person's life. He, the Holy Spirit WILL DO any and all changes that need changing in that person. For God alone, IS able! God Bless,
Amen brother.
You need to go also with His Church and Became His servant and Chosen thus you will be call Church of Christ.Colossians 1:18Good News Translation (GNT)18 He is the head of his body, the church; he is the source of the body's life. He is the first-born Son, who was raised from death, in order that he alone might have the first place in all things. George Lamsa Translation of the Peshitta
Acts 20:28Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood.About sexual sin1 Corinthians 6:9-10Good News Translation (GNT)9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts 10 or who steal or are greedy or are drunkards or who slander others or are thieves-none of these will possess God's Kingdom.
1 Corinthians 7:2Good News Translation (GNT)2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband.
Hebrews 10:19-27Good News Translation (GNT)Let Us Come Near to God19 We have, then, my friends, complete freedom to go into the Most Holy Place by means of the death of Jesus. 20 He opened for us a new way, a living way, through the curtain-that is, through his own body. 21 We have a great priest in charge of the house of God. 22 So let us come near to God with a sincere heart and a sure faith, with hearts that have been purified from a guilty conscience and with bodies washed with clean water. 23 Let us hold on firmly to the hope we profess, because we can trust God to keep his promise. 24 Let us be concerned for one another, to help one another to show love and to do good. 25 Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer.26 For there is no longer any sacrifice that will take away sins if we purposely go on sinning after the truth has been made known to us. 27 Instead, all that is left is to wait in fear for the coming Judgment and the fierce fire which will destroy those who oppose God!
WRONG!!! And please don't compare homosexuality to murderer and rapist or similar..its offensive to homosexuals. it's like comparing heterosexuals to rapist amd murdered which it should be being that rapist and murderers are mostly from YOUR side..
lucas hurtado "I don't care what homosexuals say you wanna know the truth all of them are going to hell"
Sorry but you and others like you are misinterpreting the word "Truth" in the bible. GOD'S TRUTH is not the TRUTH you and others like you have been posting. You have been taking the word "Truth" out of context. In John 14:6-7, "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you know him and have seen him"
lucas hurtado "tell me where are homosexuals going" Well it's not up to me or anyone to decide, but it's up to god. If you think you're going to heaven just because you're a Christian, you might want to think again cause you may not. Talking bad at homosexuals or telling them to go to hell is not what god wants Christians to behave. In Ephesians 4:29 (ERV - Easy-to-Read Version) "When you talk, don't say anything bad. But say the good things that people need--whatever will help them grow stronger. Then what you say will be a blessing to those who hear you" IF you're a Christian, you're not making any non-believers to have faith and salvation in God. You are only going to push them away because of your negativity. In John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love" If you're not a Christian, then you shouldn't talk against homosexuals or lesbians or anyone by using the bible as a scapegoat.
The rise in homosexuality, and its acceptance by many (if not most) is a _sure_ sign that the current dispensation (the Age of Grace) is about to end. Many Christians think that the Old Testament has little bearing on the modern world, but it is actually _full_ of metaphorical pointers. Biblical Typology is a fascinating subject.
There lies the truth .The bible is a book of two but one is know good without the other . If you find condraditions alway go back to before the trinity
Wow! Amazing! And the best part is that it was explained with the Bible's passages. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18 "But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."
Thank you so much for making this video and sharing it, very well said and explained. God bless!
I lived with the identity of a homosexual for 15 years, yet God chose me out of that dark life I used to live. I was empty, wanting to be satisfied by the emptiness I had in my heart for the touch of another man. God filled it, I don't need it from a man anymore. He set me free with the blood of Jesus Christ. Jesus paid much too high a price for me to live in darkness my whole life. I stand as someone who knows what it's like being gay, it's an empty world driven by lust. Although many people attempt to make it work, they will stay empty on the inside seeking ways to fill that emptiness with sex and pornography. It's an endless cycle...Jesus is the way out.
so you was bisexual?
very VERY well said! Good job guys!
Just remember Jesus of Nazareth was killed for speaking truth to those who refused to listen.
homophobics would kill him again if they could
A simple video that makes a lot of sense not bad
Amen ' Great video and great explanation" on the thorny topic, Brother!
If you can just admit before God and people that it is sinful and you have no excuses, you’re in the boundaries of salvation. We can struggle with sin, for a while, even for years. It keeps us humble and crying out to God. Salvation is from sin first. But we need to recognize sin, call it as it is, express contrition and strive with help of other Christians to overcome it.
this is very much the way I have felt about the subject I am at a point where I am trying to wrap my head around a lit of the changes our society has gone through lately
well homophobia was a sin
Thank You Lord for Your UNCONDITIONAL Love!! 👬 Amen!
Amazing video. May every homosexual person know that God loves them and patiently waiting for them to come back to Him. And that the devil is and always been lying to us. God bless you.
May every homophobic person know that God loves them and patiently waiting for them to come back to Him. And that the devil is and always been lying to us. God bless you.
Where is at scripture says that?
@@nicosiabrown3934 Psalm 151
ok, so what about me? I've never experienced sexual attraction twords anyone, but I have had crushes on multiple girls, like I want to cuddle with them, maybe kiss them... but all of those things are purely romantic, not sexual. I am homoromantic, is that a sin in God's eyes? You saying that homosexual relationships are based only on sexual desires? Does that mean that heterosexual relationships are only based on sexual desires, because I know plenty of homosexual relationships that are based on not lust alone, but love.
Noa Everet man shall not lay with another man = Dont have sex with the same gender.
It's out dated, sex is sex, love is love, both perfectly natural! For some reason people tend to think of a weird sex crazed stereotype when they think of the lgbt+ community. Sexual and romantic attraction are identical to both gay and straight people (and everyone in between!) They exsist, they're natural, they can't 'pray the gay away', they're just people. Don't let anyone tell you who you're 'allowed' to love. It's a wonderful thing
Noa Everet love is one thing, listen closely and see plainly. its sexual immorality that is wrong. love who you will, let it be love.
Noa Everet not lust
Do you believe in no sex before marriage?
I really liked how you emphasize that it really isn't different from other sexual sins. I think the main controversy comes from when people use scripture to deny it. Then it becomes not only a sexual sin, but a sin of the perversion of the word of God.
homophobia was the real sin
Scientists studying the brain have found that there is a difference in the brains of a bisexual, pansexual, homosexual, etc. Also the bible says "Love thy neighbor as you love thy self". The bible also said that God makes no mistakes, so why would he create someone he hates? Honestly, I don't get why a PERSON'S sexuality is up for debate. They were born the way they where. Telling a homosexual to hide their sexuality is like telling a person with brown eyes to hide their eyes. It can be hidden but not changed.
I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals. In beginning of creation God said " Let us make men in Our own image and likeliness." And if you continue reading the book of Genisis you see that God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! And if God made homosexuals "born the way they were" why would He then say that Homosexuality is an abomination? He would lying and contradicting Himself! I do agree with that a persons sexuality should not be under debate, but I will not agree with the statement you made that homosexuals were born that way!
Eliane Azevedo "I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals"
And neither heterosexuals were born heterosexuals. Babies don't even know what sexual orientation they are sexually and physically attracted to. It's only when they become adolescent to know what gender they are sexually and physically attracted to. It happens due to the hormonal changes of puberty.
"God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!"
The old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything.
princessivy " the old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything" was the basis of creation showing that only a man ( Adam) and a woman (Eve) can reproduce. And whether or not the adolescents have a change in their hormones in the beginning of my passage I clearly said a persons sexuality is not under debate, while I disagreed with homosexuals being born gay or bisexual so I don't why you are telling me something I already stated.
Eliane Azevedo "while I disagreed with homosexuals being born gay or bisexual so I don't why you are telling me something I already stated"
You ignored my response to your "I'm sorry but Homosexuals were not born homosexuals". I responded by saying "And neither heterosexuals were born heterosexuals. I'm trying to explain to you that if homosexuals or bisexuals are not "born that way" then heterosexuals were not born heterosexuals also.
Eliane Azevedo "the old rhetoric that doesn't mean anything" was the basis of creation showing that only a man (Adam) and a woman (Eve) can reproduce"
Wrong. The phrase "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" is not in any bible passages. It was originated from Conservative Christians. Yes, God created Adam and Eve, but He did create Steve...and Ellen as well..afterward. He created all people including gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender. And all of these people He created... He loves because God is love and God loves His children. The phrase "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" was to conclude why gay marriages should be banned, saying it undermines the family. But if you are really concerned with the family, you should instead take it to the government to form a bill to make laws banning divorce and remarrying, both sins of adultery. You don't have to have sex to procreate. You can have babies without having sex by using a surrogate mother.
You can read this article titled Biological Same-Sex Parent Babies Could Be a Reality by 2017: A scientific breakthrough could offer new hope to same-sex couples and anyone suffering from infertility issues.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/25/biological-same-sex-parent-babies-could-be-a-reality-by-2017
it's good guidance & encouragement on how & we should, deal, with difficult issues.
Very amazing video. I love this. All my life I have struggled with what I am. Am I gay or am I straight? I've had a lot of confusion with this especially because of my religion. I love the bible and the meaning it represents and I hate how the world is deviating so far from its message. But I always wondered if I would go to hell? I decided that I will always remain loyal to the lord no matter my imperfections and that I can spread the meaning of the bible and its message of love.
Simon Parker Thank you. Those are very amazing and wise words. And you're spot on, I think you're also correct about Freud coining the term. And that's exactly what I feel is that the Conservative or Democratic views on this aren't correct. Discrimination is bad but so too is pride. I love the Bible quote "Pride leads to ignorance, but with humility comes wisdom." So what I feel like what we should be focusing on is where both sides of the Homosexuality tension are wrong and what we can ALL do to be better people.
That's exactly what the sin of Sodom was. It wasn't really Homosexuality, it was pride and perversion.
IF ya was gay it was how God made ya to be.
@@pastorbri I believe that as well. I also believe that most homosexuals would choose to be heterosexual if they could
@@realcanadiangirl64 most now agree its best to be how they were born too.....why should anyone wish to be the same as everyone else?
We all struggle with something. Take everything to the Lord. Place it in His Loving Hands daily. Never stop submitting all of your challenges and struggles to our Mighty King and Savior. Who is always waiting for us to pour out our hearts to Him. The enemy wants you to hold onto to it, to keep you in chains as a hostage. God does NOT need us perfect, He needs us willing. No matter, how many times I have walked away from God (too many to count) He has come after me with a relentless chase and loved me with open arms, cleansed me every time of the world's filth and wrapped me in His Amazing Grace.
well approached!
the Bible is true the only way to heaven is through Jesus Jesus is God repent now while you have a chance
Why is the bible any more true than the Torah or the Quran? How do I know that what your religion says about heaven and hell is anymore realistic than the Greek gods of mount olympus
You are brainwashed there is no such thing as God. Saying God is real is like saying that Santa or the Easter Bunny is real. Its just for adults...
The Krught idk why ur comparing God to Santa. Tbh u sound like a complete fool. But hey I'll give u the benefit of the doubt that ur a kid and u don't know that much about topics you don't know. If u want to prove me wrong, go ahead but FIRST listen to some videos that say the opposite of what you're claiming.
equalism 42 wait I'm confused. So ur claiming since Luke was not born yet to see the birth of Christ, that means Christianity is a hoax? Buddy, c'mon. Luke was one of Jesus' disciples, Luke knew Mary, you know the one who was a virgin when she had Jesus. Joseph, also knowns she was a virgin. + i don't think the 13/20 claim is right but I will look.
You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink some people will choose to perish that's their choice
never would think something as simple as this would be a debate the world is in a lot of trouble if people can't understand that this is not ok
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
a good passage on paul condemning heterosexuals doing same sex acts.
Yes we are in confidence that the Lord will is our first goal
Billy Graham said homosexuality is not the ultimate sin. It is a comfort to me somehow. My daughter is transgender, it is heartbreaking, but i love my baby. Seeing her go through depression and suicide attempts because she was so disgusted with her body was hell, and that started around third grade. She is happy now, comfortable in her skin and has the kindest heart. I have nothing but love and compassion for the LGBT community.
I also have a great love and compassion for the LGBTQ community. With a loving heart, I have chosen not to lie to anyone who asks me what God's Word clearly says in Scripture. I would be sinning against God in corrupting Scripture regarding what He has established in His design. May the Holy Spirit lead you in all things and draw you and your beautiful daughter closer to Himself.
Please do not believe in Billy Graham or anyone who says other than what God has mentioned. In this video itself it clearly discussed why Homosexuality is natural or God intended. There is nothing called ultimate sin or in other words there is no grading in sin. Sin is a sin... If you want, we can discuss in detail..
Read your Bible this sin ends in death- does that sound comforting? also read about Sodom, and Gomorrah- also in the new testament
In the book of Romans 1:18,24,26-28 so you see God has standards - and if you rebel the consequences is death all these young people that believe that it's ok! will find out the harsh reality...
right now they are blinded to the truth.
How can you enable your daughter's gender confusion? She is so young. I fear you are setting her up for major regret and damage that can't be reversed
Do any of these responses here even understand what is being said in the original comment?
Nobody ever wants to do the necessary in-depth analysis of the Hebrew wording of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Nor of Deuteronomy 22:5, which doesn't mention anything whatsoever about Crossdressing, but that Israel cannot make a Law that forces Women into the Military. But the first two verses here DO NOT say anything about two males being with each other, sexually. The key word in Leviticus 18:22 is "Mishcabey" which here, has just made its second appearance in the Holy Torah. The first time is at Genesis 49:4 where Reuben loses his Birthright Blessing for having slept with his father Israel's Concubine, Bilhah. It's being used as a replacement word for "Peelegesh" which is the Hebrew word for "A Concubine." And that's not all, but there's more to it than this: the Verb-Phrase in 18:22 of Leviticus is "Lo-Tishcav," meaning simply "you(m) shall not lay..." But the Translators (conveniently maybe?) didn't pay much attention in their Hebrew classes: the Future Tense Verb directed to a Male (2nd person) is also directed to the Female (as the 3rd person). How is this reconciled in Hebrew in order to make a distinction? By use of the Pronoun of HE and/or SHE..! Which by the way, is NOT included in the Verse of Leviticus 18:22, nor in 20:13..!!
Well what then does all that mean exactly? It means that NOBODY can lay the Concubine Wife of another person..!!!
I wish people would wake up and smell the Coffee of Heaven by doing some serious research into the Hebrew language, it's Usage, Grammar and Morphology. I think it's ironic that fellow Believers always suppose that they can trust their various Translations, but a few of us, like myself, are surprised to find out that it really and truly is the most un-studied Book of ALL TIME. You guys didn't even make mention of what Yeshua (Jesus) said about the "Eunuchs." But I know that you would never connect the word "Eunuch" to what European History used it as; the word for "Homosexual." Boy Howdy, talk about having your head up your butt..! I hate having to make such a crude statement; however, this madness has got to STOP. I am amazed at how even my Great Grandmother knew this stuff. If she hadn't passed it along, I would be as ignorant of this as YOU are. I can only hope you Brothers will get serious about studying the Hebrew language of the Bible. Thank you for your other videos and Shabbat Shalom everyone!
the old law is dead is all we need to know.
Reading the comments is so painful. Everyone has an opinion that they all think is the right one. The bible says this! The Quran says that! Joe Blogs knows it all! Nothing I can say here will make a blind bit of difference to anyone, but all I know is that some people have morality issues but I can't take the moral high ground because it's impossible to reason with people. Maybe there is a heaven and hell, maybe when we die that's it. Either way, at some point we are going to drop down dead and all of this will not matter. If we end up in a fiery furnace for our immoral actions then only at that moment will we realise we were wrong.
On the subject in question. I believe in an intelligent designer, that there is a natural order to things. I believe that humans were made male and female for a reason. To reproduce and populate the planet. It would be absolutely impossible for Adam and Steve or Rachel and Eve to do this. Two men cannot produce babies and neither can two women, unless I missed something in biology?
And before anyone tries to throw the phobic card at me, I have friends and family who are openly gay and I love them.
What you stated on the first paragraph is impeccable, you deserve a cheer.
But when you turned things around on the second from being neutral to a judge of value, it didn't seem like just a simple "opinion", you said "humans were made male and female for a reason to reproduce and populate the planet" and "two men cannot produce babies and neither can two women, unless I missed something in biology?", despite being something scientifically true, you meant it as something utterly biased, if you have and recognise your gay friends and families, there's no reason to point that out, right? So you know there's more to "reproduce and pass on the genes" in sex right? Since you know two people of the same sex can't reproduce, you should know that there are other means to it, right? I'm not judging you, you just gave me a hypocritical impression, so excuse me if I had it anything wrong.
steven hart welll, welll, of course the last part has to be in this comment, the reason I am here is to point out that you don't accept the way your "family and friends" for who they are, you still think they are unnatural and should be change.....whatever, I'll leave you alone rn
I agree with you full heartedly. I truly do believe god had a plan. Male and female would not exist if it weren't for a reason. Sex is for reproduction. Whether people do it for other reasons is irrelevant. It was an act meant for a women and a man.
+Hannah Burton if you what believe is an opinion, how can you say the other means for sex are irrelevant? And how can you state sex is only meant for reproduction if science haven't proven it and not even God has said so? Whether there's a possibility for an activity, and such possibility makes a consenting couple happy and it's harmless to others, it's not a sin. Our Lord has come down to Earth so he could expand our possibilities to make ourselves and others happy, if he hadn't come, imagine how wicked our place would be!
MattieDee I agree I don't know gods will. We're all trying to follow it however we can. I don't agree that anything that feels good or makes you happy could entirely be the right thing
who cares what that book says. Look at all the people in the Bible that didn’t follow “gods way” of “biblical marriage.”
All the people in the Bible are sinners. That’s kind of the point.
This is one of the reasons I'm agnostic bordering on atheist. To me it means nothing when someone says God's law or God says or God hates or God likes. Because no one really KNOWS. So many people are so quick to talk about Sin comma but only other people's sins. And they stack the sins up according to their idea of importance or severity. Which means assumption and misinterpretation. This video puts forth so many of those things. So condescending and insulting. I am gay since 3rd grade. Natural.
Natural? Can you reproduce with your gay partner? The primary purpose of sex is to propogate the human race. It's not possible in your relationship.
@@central3425 It was interesting reading my comment after 4 years. Since then I have become full-fledged atheist.
Primary purpose of sexual intimacy is social bonding and societal stability, not reproduction. But reproduction has its place, too. It is a positive side-benefit for some. Post-menopausal heterosexual couples still desire to have sex even after they are no longer able to reproduce. In some cases they have NEVER reproduced.
Homosexuality exists in EVERY animal species, and in birds, too. So, totally Natural. Nothing needs to be fixed because nothing is broken. Gay men and gay women are too-spirited people, as accepted and supported thousands of years ago by many indigenous peoples and then by many more ethnic groups. We are to be respected and even revered because we embody a larger spectrum of personhood then CIS men and CIS women. We help to keep ALL human configurations, including heterosexual pairings, stable. As gay people and as part of the larger Queer populations, we contribute a disproportionately large amount of creativity and beauty to the world, and we should be appreciated for those contributions as well as for so many more.
@@Rippypoo I pray that you find Jesus Christ, for your own salvation.
You seem to misunderstand that Our Father is everything EXCEPT a God of love; through the revelations and suffering of Our Savior Jesus Christ, He alone has ascertained what is and isn't sin--that forms the basis of our faith. It is a complete logical fallacy to appeal to nature; animals do not have a preconceived notion of sexuality, and so are incapable of making informed decisions like we do. We cannot compare the actions of animals, who retain eternal innocence without any immortal soul whatsoever, to the actions of humans, who souls are capable of engaging in decisions that are/are not sinful. Homosexual lifestyles are purely artificial in design, and are entirely sinful. There is nothing "natural" about being a homosexual because it is a purely social inclination; that is to say it is an active choice to be a homosexual--there is no "gay gene."
You seem deeply pained, and I hope you get the help you need. Jesus Christ will always be there for you, and it hurts Him to see you turn your back on Him. We are all precious sons and daughters of Christ, and we all commit sin. The difference is in being humbled by this knowledge, and in embracing the forgiveness Our Lord will always offer. Bless.
@@rapecel You are too funny. It was interesting reading my comment again 5 years later. I'm an even stronger atheist now. And what do you mean homosexuality is invented? Who invented it for NATURE? It occurs in virtually every species of creature on this Earth. You going to send animals and birds to Hell, too? What a farce.
5 years ago we weren't in danger of losing democracy totally. Republicans are all turning into Fascists and Christian Nationalism AKA Christo-Fascism is worse now than ever. Complete idiots walking around with guns and screaming Jesus. I want no part of that. Go proselytize somebody else.
Please don't talk about love. Religion today in this country is only hate, indoctrination and death.
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@@Rippypoo You continue to facilitate a strawman because of political trivialities. Homosexuality is socially artificial because it is a byproduct of sexual identity--nothing in nature exhibits a sexual identity like humans. All evidence of animals portraying homosexual behavior is impulsivity; animals do not actively "choose" to be gay. This is purely because homosexuality is an invention of SOCIETY, a deeply sinful and unfaithful society. Homosexuality is also encouraged by more undisciplined principles in human behavior. There is no coincidence that since the increased introduction of pornography since the 1970s there has been an increase in homosexual behavior. The average homosexual overwhelmingly reports high pornography consumption compared to your average heterosexual American, with most studies showing that higher pornography consumption is associated with increased sexual deviancy.
I do not appreciate your ad hominins however. Calling me a fascist because I desire your salvation is a deeply twisted and morally unpalatable thing to do, of which has become far too often in any online discussion. If you cannot separate your religion from your politics perhaps being a homosexual is the least of your problems. I thought by showing you this respect in my original reply, you would do the same; however it seems I am completely wrong.
I pray that you find mercy and forgiveness, and that you realize how much you have hurt Christ by pushing him away. Bless.
Thanks, really helped me understand
You're not a friend if you don't warn people about sin. Coddling is not loving.
first, Homosexuality is not just sexual desire, lust but love. you made it like it was purely animalistic instinct for sex.
second, You made it as it is on my control and i simply change it. But it's not! it is not my choice, i didnt decided "oh i'll like men".
third, Why on earth we'll chosing the side where we condemn to hell ??
fourth, so homosexuality is fine if you are a woman ?
I struggle so much because of this.. one person says this and the othe says that and all I keep thinkig about is if Ill end up in hell because of something I cant control... and ik how it sounds like "desire" but I cant like girls.. that IS unnatural for me because I dont feel that way... I cant mentally nor physically force myself to do that God knows I would if I could.. I dont want to go to hell..
Jonathan Ramirez Same Sex Attraction is not a sin. We're all sinful, and we all have weaknesses big or small is certain areas of our lives. (Some people get really jealous, some are 'natural' worrying people and can't help it etc etc)
God is not going to send you to hell because of the fleshly weaknesses that you have.
He hates the idea that anyone would perish.
We all have our own burdens. But what I think is important is a strong church family, strong connections and friendships.
Jonathan Ramirez Same Sex Attraction is not a sin. We're all sinful, and we all have weaknesses big or small is certain areas of our lives. (Some people get really jealous, some are 'natural' worrying people and can't help it etc etc)
God is not going to send you to hell because of the fleshly weaknesses that you have.
He hates the idea that anyone would perish.
We all have our own burdens. But what I think is important is a strong church family, strong connections and friendships. God will help you out.
but then is it a sin to be gay or not..
+Jonathan Ramirez hello Jonathan no its not a sin to be same sex attracted when it does become sin is when you act on that feeling, even Christians have a feeling of doing sinful things but we resist because of our love for God and he gives us strength to do so i know it can't be easy for you and youtube is not the forum i feel is appropriate for this conversation but i feel for you and really encourage you to pray to God about it for strength and peace with this and hopefully talk to someone you respect and are comfortable with ill pray for you jonathan
THANK YOUUUU!!
Thanks for the video. But you have to consider what gays have done for you. Gays entertain you through song (Sam smith), Gays design the clothes u are wearing now (DnG), gays do a good job as a make up artist, gays are scientist, etc. When you say that gays are condemned by God without considering their good deed, you're just being so mean while taking advantage from them. And I think this is also one of the a reasons why Chistians are leaving the church. Good job!
This is NOT about hate. It is about design. There is a Designer, Who designed humanity with purpose and intent. God is gracious and a super Gentleman. He forces no one to love Him. He forces no one to agree with Him or even accept Him. All free will. True love comes with free will. Hearts come willingly and not by force. So, enjoy His love, not to love Him. Enjoy His love, not to agree with Him. Enjoy His love, not to accept Him. Enjoy His love that allows you the opportunity to be free of Him for an eternity by rejecting Him. God is a Gentleman and forces no one.
Sam Smith is f2m can’t you tell?
Can you enable auto captions on your videos? Thanks
Hi Mel - Some of our older videos do not have captions, but all of our newer, more recent videos have auto captions. Note, though, that we do not edit the captions for all of our videos, so they may not always be accurate.
Summary: the bible says this, therefore we should do it.
How do you have a conversation with someone like that? There really is no reason for action or beliefs other than because it says so in the bible.
"Stand to reason" lol
Your statement only makes sense if the Bible isn't what it claims to be. If the Bible actually is the Word of God, though …
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Cool beans. I agree that this video isn't persuasive for those who are not Christian--but this video does seem to be about how to communicate what the Bible "teaches" to other people, and that is what my comment was in reference to.
linuxisbetter0 At the risk of sounding pedantic, the video explains to Christians (using biblical arguments) why they should argue in favor of God's standards for sexual conduct. The video doesn't really go into deep, exhaustive depth about *how* to argue the point; it mostly explains *why* to argue the point.
There's going to be some overlap between the "why" and the "how," but this video is pretty much an exhortation from the coach to the team to get off the bench and get in the game.
*Summary: The bible says this, therefore we believe we should do it because we believe it to be the word of God.
The Christian faith is not about dictating the actions of others. Nor is it about following a strict set of rules. Christ himself made it clear that even the initial ten commandments no longer needed to be adhered to so long as we (in his words) "Love your neighbour as you do yourself" and "Love God with all your heart"
We don't follow the bible simply because we see it as a set of rules we must follow in order to reach heaven. We follow it because we believe that there is a creator of the entire universe who created all life and has chosen us to give eternal life to all of us.
If such an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent does indeed exist, most would obviously trust Him enough to believe he knows what is best for us.
If that means we put our faith in him and deny certain urges, so be it.
If you were to tell a drug addict that his habit will lead to his death, he'd likely continue to consume. Though a small part of him would know deep down that it was true. Given that we believe all sin is the same, no matter its content, it seems evident to us Christians that abstaining from one sin (say drug addictions, sexual promiscuity and unprovoked violence) while ignoring what the bible says about another (homosexuality for instance) and continuing to engage in that would no doubt put us in bad light in the eyes of our Lord.
Wait, so you come to a video titled "The Bible and Homosexuality" and then you complain that the video tells you what the bible says about homosexuality? What were you expecting?
yes, its about love, acceptance and forgiveness, I m a Christian ,I had some friends that are homosexual. god what me to love them and accept them. galactian 5
yes Ive had homophobic friends and I love them too
I am sorry, but this is too short by the bend. You cannot (and the Bible doesn't!!) put on one line homosexuality and adultary. The big difference is that adultery is an act, a choice, while homosexuality is inherent to who you are and born with. This is what you at least should take into serious consideration before you call it so bluntly a sin.
Teun van der Leer Well said but too bad, ignorance wins
it's wrong just like any other sin
Louis Henton "It's wrong just like any other sin"
Keep telling yourself that and some day you might eventually believe it's true.
is that the best you got
Louis Henton "is that the best you got"
No, but it's better than what you got though
I truly, truly hate to say something on here because internet arguments result in nothing, but here is some food for thought. Many people in defense of homosexuality say that since they were born that way, it is not a sin, and they should be accepted. While this makes sense in theory, in practice, it does not. Take disabilities for example. Many people are born blind or deaf or mentally impaired, making their lives difficult and painful. Under the logic of "they were born this way," these people should stay this way. We should not help them. We should not cure them. We should let them live the way they are.
Clearly, this thought process wrong! People are not born perfect; this is a fact. This is the human dilemma, nay, the human condition. People are not meant to live in their flaws and embrace them, they must overcome them. And whether that flaw is physically being blind or mentally being homosexual, humans must not accept their flaws, but rise above them.
many assume they are born homophobic when its a choice.
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. There are only 5 or so references which can be used against gay people:
1) Genesis
It's a condemnation of gang rape.
2) & 3) Leviticus
This is part of the Holiness Code, and not the Moral Code, which means it has nothing to do with morality and is meant only for the Jews. The term translated to 'as with' means bed every other time it's used in Leviticus and when Paul referred to this passage (see my Corinthians comments) he wrote bed. There's also no way any Hebrew term can be translated to specifically mean "as with" since there are no Hebrew terms for words like "as" nor "with". The term used for abomination can only be found to convey ritual transgressions and the term for a moral transgression was not used.
4) Romans
It's a clear cut condemnation of Pagan idolatry. Both gay and straight sex rituals were used in their idol worship. There's a good reason why homophobes only give the "for this reason" part without giving the reason.
5) Corinthians
Paul stated "male bed" and "soft" (as in morals or fabric - this term is never used to mean some sort of mannerism.) The meaning of the two terms has been lost to history, all we do know if Paul was referring to that Leviticus passage. This passage was condemning masturbation instead of homosexuality less than 100 years ago. Before that, in the 16th century, it was condemning pedophilia and in the medieval times it was pimping.
Jesus mentions homosexuality as least twice, if not three times. He refers to gay men as born eunuchs in Matthew 19, one of the 3 types of men not made for marrying women. He meets a gay man, via the Roman Centurion trying to heal his 'pais', and says of him, "Never have I seen faith greater than this." Neither time does he condemn. There's also research that "raca", when He states "Whomever calls his brother raca..", is the word we have as the f-word today.
The greatest, most passionate love story in the Bible is between two men. Never at any point in history have two men held each other, kissing and weeping while telling each other their love for one another surpassed that of any woman nor have two men been alone in private where one takes off all of his clothes and gives it to other as a sign of devotion unless those two men were gay or bisexual.
You are picking and choosing what to put in the bible clearly states that a man that lies with another man like he lays with a woman should put to death. And the bible is inspired by God so therefore God condones the killing of gays. Don't pick and choose what to put in your message this my problem with religion
Clinton Morgan Did you notice you didn't even attempt to discuss any of the verifiable facts I brought up about Leviticus????
Clinton Morgan It also states adulterers should be stoned to death but odd how we don't hear any right-wing Christian, who is most likely on their 3rd marriage, discussing that scripture.
Michael A deceived
People in the church need to be corrected also not just the people on the outside I'm a witness and corrections we all need and Jesus is REALLY REAL
You don't have to like it you just have to follow sometimes. It's confusing for me as a gay christian but in the end you just gotta think what is more important; the now or the eternity? Of course there's absolutely no way I'm going to tell me other gay atheistic friends to stop being gay because really there's no point in me stopping them. They're living in sin whether or not they're gay unless they come to god. I think that's the point many Christians don't realise.
When we see someone else's sin that is open and obvious we judge them because we're too afraid to see that we're just as bad as they are. One of my friends got pregnant before she married and like the loving person she was she decided to take responsibility for the baby and continue living for god. She could have easily aborted and pretended like it had never happened but she decided to keep it and got engaged to the man who got her pregnant. What did the church do? Well they all looked at her when she walked into church and the whole place was silent and judging. If that's the kind of church we have in these days I think we need to pray to God for a change. Just because their sin is more open than your sin doesn't make anyone worse or better. That goes the same with gay people. We need to stop preaching hate and start preaching the gospel aka the good news about ALL sinners being saved. Don't make them stop being gay. That's something they need to do on their own once they come to Christ. That's something that's between God and them. You can help them out like any friend helping out a Christian friend who is struggling with a sin but don't force your atheistic gay friends to stop being gay! You'll just look pretentious and stupid. You can give them your opinion but in the end it's God who changes a person's heart.
More questionable bible scholarship and misinformation. De rigeur.
Took a lot of work to find someone to translate really old Greek to English
Oh fucking hell. * how to be homophobic nicely so people won't shout at us *
HAHAHAH i make ur words mine, thats what this video was only about, it passed so many misinterpreted things from this corrupted modern bible, they don't even know the translation for "arsenokoites" isn't actually homosexuality.
+L.J. Palacios oh hi, ive given up for a while talking on this subject cus it was giving me headaches, so in response ill only leave a video here to ya: What Does the Bible Really Says About Being Gay, from LoveThinks.
Cya!
Shout as much as you want.
fishqueen3 Oh well... I guess that is one easy way to shut down all discussion.
So if a an LGB person agrees, they are homphobic too ?
No shutting down of discussions here...If an LGBT+ person agrees, then they agree. But to agree with something that basically denies your genuine exsistance, excludes you from 'gods plan' and supports a religion that is inherently homophobic is just plain silly. Would a black person support the kkk? Would a muslim support Trump? Would a Jew support Nazis? The answer is yes, such people exsist! But it's a paradox.
Amazing video, pal!
For the gay viewers out there; (I am not one) I think it is important to note in these types of videos that all gay people are welcome in Church. Jesus loves and accepts them and that if they accept Jesus into their heart then gay people go to heaven too. Even if they never defeat being gay. In the same way that I am a liar and a luster, I know my name is written in the book of life because Jesus paid for our sins on the cross.
its homophobia we should defeat
It may be difficult for people to understand why homosexuality is not God's best if they don't consider fornication or adultery as a problem
Yeah as a gay man who grew up Christian and studied the context behind those passages, this is straight up offensive. It's condescending and ridiculously reductionist. Many Christians believe that the love between two people of any kind is holy.
Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” 37 Jesus replied, “‘You must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself. 40 The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.”
God is love and obeying these two commandments fulfils all of the law. Being in a loving monogamous relationship is not a sin.
This really changed my point of view on some people
Is anyone else in these comments hella gay?? Also, the fact that there's a lot of hate dedicated to our community is sad. You know, people are getting killed just for being gay? We just want to live our lives, and we don't need your sympathy or for you to pray for us. Also, LGBT+ kids get a lot more hate than heterosexual/ cis people, god wouldn't have wanted this. Ultimately, the world would be such a better place if all hate was gone. We should just support each other, and love one another.
Ok so people, to think about this video pls consider the folllowing word, "Love" You can interptate this word with the meaning you like. I think God loves us all, doesn't matter if you're a rapist, murderer or robber, he loves us equally and sees the good In us and when it comes to judgement it's really hard for him to choose which one of his CHILDREN goes to spend eternal torture in hell or spend eternity in heaven.
That was so Dope!
Bull crap! I don't want to live like Jesus or the way he taught. I deny him. it's bull crap! I'm gay as ever and I will never leave my boyfriend.
good for you as love is not a sin, but Jesus loves u as God created you as a gay person.
I love this video❤️
yes..we need to spread lv..GOD'S lv n mercy towards others who think different dan us..n mayb our genuine lv n concern fo der soul wil mk dm realize that drs smthn very beautiful n comforting about dis GOD(JESUS) whom we serve n adore(..n yes im a catholic..we pray in THE HOLY SPIRIT too).
what Jesus taught us is to love everybody occluded sinner cuz that's being christ-like and having love and compassion of others
if only homophobics could do this
You quote only part of the passage in Leviticus. In the same chapter, it states that planting 2 different seeds in the same hole is an abomination as is eating pork--most would agree this is ridiculous.. Why ignore those and home in on the one about homosexuality? Do we pick and choose which parts of the Bible we accept and ignore the rest?
+Scott Laws - Yes, this is really the crux of the argument: are you going to pick and choose which parts of the Law to live? Condemn homos because of Leviticus? Ok, then no Red Lobster or Grand Slam breakfast, and you've got to bring that bratty teen of yours before the elders to be stoned to death. And that whole wearing phylacteries to work thing. Doing all that, too? Let's revisit James 2:8-10.
Then there's the detail that the old covenant is passed and sticking to it is pretty much telling Christ you don't need his sacrifice you'll do it yourself thank you very much. Galatians 2:21 is a good place to start in testing that notion.
this is extremely clear. homosexuality is wrong
those were for the jews back then and some other laws are still in act for everyone though. to find out if its either or you have to look at scripture in context and study intensely with Holy Spirit giving you revelation on scripture.
God made Gay, str8 & Australian, He doesn't mess up so this must be his will as ive always been Gay!🌈👬❤
Wow. 1300+ comments. Lots of drama. Lots of anger. Lots of stubbornness. Also, lots of loving kindness in there. hmmm ...
One manifestation of my sinful nature is alcoholism. It's been 5 years since I practiced the sin which is my nature to practice. I have risen above what is natural for me, and, with God's help, am now living by a standard higher than my nature.
I have alcoholic friends who are still actively drinking. Mostly they know that their drinking is bad for them and that it hurts others. I do not hate them or dislike them or look down on them simply because they have not found a connection with God sufficient to conquer their sin of alcoholism. I do my best to show loving kindness to them. I do my best to help them, but try not to enable them in their sin. (I am probably found more often on the side of enabling the I would like.) I hate the sin. It can be such a devastating sin. But I love the sinner and would do anything in my power to free him from the sin of alcoholism.
Homosexuality is just a different manifestation of that sinful nature that all people are born with. Is the homosexual born a homosexual? Of course, he is (or she).Should sin be accepted, condoned, overlooked, encouraged, called 'not sin', or enabled simply because we are born that way? Of course not! I was born an alcoholic, but today I do not live that way. We are all, yes every person without exception, called by God to put off our old sinful nature and be holy like God. We cannot do this until we call sin 'sin'.
If you are a homosexual, welcome to the human race - you are a sinner just like the rest of us - forgiveness and conquering of sin can be found in Jesus Christ. If you regularly practice homosexual behavior then your are committing sin and rebelling against God to follow your own nature, your own desires, your plan, not God's plan.
I suspect most folks can guess the rest of the schpiel. A choice must be made every day of our lives - do it my way or do it God's way. The bible is quite clear what God's way is in most areas of life, including alcoholism and homosexuality. You must simply choose to accept it or reject it, but remember - acceptance is too difficult for us without God's help, but to him who knocks the door will be opened.
Peace to you all!
Dear Dman ...CORRECTION ... it should read: Acts 2: 38, Respectfully submitted. A watchman of His Word.
Great job. This was balanced, intelligent and biblical. I will be subscribing. :-)
And I'm not gay by the way, I'm just a realist 😏😁🙏🏽
Loving a person of the same sex is okay as long as you don't commit sexual acts with them. Two cents.
shadypenguinX Hmm... what do you mean by loving ?
I feel like a good Smell test is to replace "someone of the same sex" by "someone other than my spouse".
And I don't think your statement works anymore really
wow wow wow.... so honest. Great vid
Scott G. You seem mad? You ok bro?
+Daniel Gilbert S'all good.
Scott G. Great to hear😊 my man. Wish you the best.
+Daniel Gilbert Thanks. Back at you man.
Scott G. Hey bro, whats been happening. Any good youtube clips out there these days?
Christians all know its OK to be gay, only religious folk disagree
You say that by having a relationship with another man I am saying no to the plan God had for me from the start. But if He had that plan for me, how come in my whole life, not a single woman has ever come close to sexually attracting or arousing me? And how did he make me (genetics around 30%) and allow me to become (environmental factors in my early life, also beyond my control - around 70%) powerfully sexually attracted to other men? That was a very strange way of revealing His plan for me.
You say that going against God's plan for you is saying NO to GOD. What about some poor guy for whom God''s plan was lifelong chastity but who instead gets married? Surely he is saying no to God as much as I am?
Also I get that married couples have the golden ticket and can do what they want. I get that. Only such blatant favouritism can explain why the Protestant Church is fine with Christian couples using contraception throughout their married lives in blatant defiance of the command n Genesis 1 to be fruitful and multiply. They have all the fun of sex but none of the responsibilities of it. Incredible!
It's almost as if religion was teeming with hypocrisy!
God just makes some people LGBT
well done ye servant of God.
I happen to disagree with the whole video because well, its another word for word in the bible with very little research. I still love that you are trying to answer the question.
The human male and female bodies scream out heterosexual design. That is just a fact, not an opinion. Science of the human body declares the reproductive system of the human species heterosexual. Fact, not opinion.
Well done video, actually.
I was hoping this carefully written video would have covered the peculiar passages of Leviticus 20:12-14, but most relevantly, 20:13, which states:
_If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them._
(From biblehub.com; New American Standard Bible)
These passages are a set of explicit instructions of how to punish specific sexual acts. Was this punishment appropriate for that time? Should this be appropriate now? These are important questions that I am disappointed the video didn't bother discussing.
thats the old law and the old law is dead, so God said.
@@pastorbri Thanks for responding to my curiosity. I'm also interested in your thoughts about the other question: "Was this punishment appropriate for this time?" (Was the old law fair and just?)
We will all know the truth one day
we are to be seperate and stay away from ALL unclean things......
and homophobics are unclean
This video also claimes that Paul stated that homosexuals will not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, they are claiming that even if you are a homosexual and do not have homosexual sex, or even if you are a homosexual and have had homosexual sex and repented for it, you have no chance of entering into heaven because you are still a homosexual.
@ifihadahammer7856 : The same must be true for LIARS then, as the Bible says in the book of Revelation that ALL LIARS will be cast into the lake of fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That would include ALL those who LIE to children wilfully, repetitively and unrepentantly without remorse about Santa Claus and his flying reindeer. The lake of fire awaits. They are still LIARS. 🎅
Ime 'Gay & glad I am, as its not just black & white, right or wrong, its nearly 8 billion shades of grey, there are so many other books written far more recent using logic from Mans viewpoint, the bible was wrote by Men, Men are full of sin as all Man is, no one is close to the glory of God, no not one is even close! "To Err is Human", who says that a couple of lines taken out of one book' the 'bible is absolute in its knowledge of being born Gay, ive always been Gay as far bk as I remember & even when I prayed to God for help in the mid 70s at 15 yrs old to make Me str8 it didn't work as at 18 yrs old I came out, I was so lonely for another & the need for the love of another Man as I wasn't attracted to the opposite sex at all, so they were not speaking to what is today called the Gay folk, they were speaking to those men who were married & had Children but still bedded other Men, ive never been like that & its always been 'love' for Me, My partner & I have been together now for 33 yrs & though in our younger yrs we showed our love in a physical way as all young Men do' we don't now but only because our love has surpassed the physical need, life so many 1000s of yrs ago is Alien compared to life today, there are far too many ppl on Earth now as its overpopulated, what would it be like if all Gay Men & Women got married to the opposite sex & had Children? There would be close to 11 billion ppl on Earth now, that would destroy the very home God made for Us, ppl would starve at an increasing rate & life would be untenable, this maybe Natures way of controling over population, whatever' love is the way the truth & the light, no Man comes unto the father but by Me"John 14 v 6! 'Amen!🕆🛐
Homosexuality and other sins are on the rise and it's the right time to explain this kind of stuff. Creator God gave us life and so he knows what is best he loves his children is always watching over us, he is patient, gentle and wise. 🌹
This is a somewhat counter-argument video to the video by LoveThinks "What Does the Bible Really Say About Being Gay". Undoubtedly homosexuality is a controversial topic even within the Christian community. However, I would like the maker of this video to actually read the verses in NT that those passages refers to idolatry not homosexuality being a sin. There are many Christians today who uses these verses out of context to justify their argument. Our own interpretation of the Bible do somewhat depends on our own individual's political ideologies.
The Bible talks about homosexuality. That’s not a matter of interpretation.
i hope everyone understand that christians absolutely do not hate homosexual people. (i myself have LGBT friends) homosexuality is a satanic spirit within a person.
although that may sound ridiculous, we're certainly NOT talking about the flesh, we're talking abiut the SPIRIT. there's a very strong difference between the two. why many people get angry about this idea is that its because they only see it in terms of flesh and they refuse to take into account the spiritual reason.
if i was to explain christian perspective on homosexuality in a 'flesh' perspective it would be something like how people hate the fact that someone has cancer, but they connot hate the person for having it.
There's a lot of silly in this but there is a truth. All struggle with sexuality and nothing exempts you from the God's law. No matter where you come from, you must move towards God's grace. We are all born "that" way.
but homophobics are not born that way. They chose that lifestyle.
I thought the Bible says that gods gift on the world is a marrigical relationship between a man and a woman and anything else is adultery
no as in the OT God said marriage is 1 man and many wives also so there is no 1 definition on marriage
wait im so confused is this video saying being gay is bad?
Read the Bible and find out for yourself. Look up the word( homosexulilty)
Hi! Can you please caption this video in English? Thank you!
As a muslims we believe the Bibel more than you
Bibel and Quran
No homosexuality
don't alcohol drink
Don't eat swine meet
No adultery
but you don't believe your book then we are the real ones
I agree, people disobey the bible mostly because they think that since Jesus died for your sins you can win all you want and still go to heaven
Nice teaching Amen
The Bible has contradictions. In John 3:16 the Bible says that God loves everyone with a saving love while other verses says that he only loves the elect with a saving love.
I’m going to assume that you are talking about Ephesians 1:4-5 and Romans 8:28-30. The Bible does say that we are predestinated. And the Bible says that God loved the whole world.
This is an apparent contradiction. But when you look at the attributes of God in relation to man, it makes perfect sense.
First. God is love. This is stated many times throughout Scripture one being John 3:16 another being 1John 4:7-8. God loves everyone and that is why He sent His only begotten Son to save us.
Second. God is Holy. That means that He cannot be in the presence of sin. This creates a problem for mankind because the Bible clearly states that all have sinned. But God in His Love provided a way for our son debt to be paid for-and the only way is Jesus (John 14:1-6)
But getting to the “contradiction” of predestination. We must realize that God is Omniscient-or all knowing. So when the Bible says that we were predestinates to become children of God. Or that we were chosen from the foundations. It isn’t saying that God chose us to save and only loves the chosen. Here the Bible is saying that from the beginning, God in his Omniscience knew who would reject Him and who would accept Him. But even those who reject God, God still loves them and gives them a way to get to Heaven.
The Bible says whosoever will May come. That is the message of Jesus. Jesus didn’t come to condemn us to hell like some think-we were already condemned and separated from God because of our sin. The purpose of Jesus coming was to save us from our sins and reconcile us to God so that we can spend forever with Him in Heaven.
I don't know why I'm here and I'm not even Christian..
why not?
Pentecostal Missionary Because I don't want to be...?
STRvids where you get your facts?
The most you have with Paul here (if you were to pay more attention to his words than what you want to make of them) is that male homosexuality is a sin. But why should we believe a man who said women must keep their heads covered in church and keep quiet there?
And what does Paul say about lesbianism? Anything?
And the book of Leviticus? Do you even attempt to keep all the barmy rules in that book?
You might want to start thinking and feeling like a Christian instead of a lawyer trying to win a case so he doesn't have to admit he was ever wrong about anything. You need to understand that God gave you a conscience, and that you need to consult it. Stop slandering his creatures. This is sinful and does not please the Lord.
homophobia is the real sin
Thank you for a very objective and clear presentation of Biblical references. Fair, true and not judgmental. I am in the opinion that, homosexuality in itself isn't a sin but it is the homosexual lifestyle that is. A homosexual trying to live a chaste life is no different from a heterosexual who is also, based on the Bible, supposed to refrain from any sexual activity outside of marriage. A homosexual who carries himself/herself in a respectable manner is no different from a heterosexual who also doesn't behave in a manner that brings into question his/her Christian personality. I believe a homosexual can be a devout Christian as long as he/she avoids the same things that the Bible says every person, regardless of sexual orientation, should.
as homosexual lifestyles do not exist, how are you against something thats not real?
@@pastorbri they DO NOT exist? Just wanted to confirm if that was not a typo...
All please stay calm...at least they're explaining
srsly, who was there to live through it to even hear god say "you should love opposite" and "you can't love THEM". I'm sorry Jesus diggity brah but, love is love, its like you let something evolve on its own, you should have done something by now if its a sin.
homophobia is the real sin
i appreciate that you said it's important to treat people with love no matter what mistakes they make and that you express your opinion on such a controversal topic. i was struggeling a long time with finding an opinion on this topic. seing that homosexuality is a characteristic that reaches deep into the soles of gay and lesbian people i found it hard to imagine god would refuse to love these people the way he created them. but as i love the bible i wanted to find what god sais about this topic in the bible. therefore i was confused because of the verses you also quoted in this video. how could these short sentences in leviticus that prohibiting gay sex be an appropriate way to deal with such a complex issue? in the end i talked to a theology student and also heard to lectures of a theology professor about this topic. i understood you can't know what the bible want's to say without knowing about the historical background and the reality of the people for whom were written these verses in first place. i believe the bible does have pofound wisdom for us today but it's way to easy and not adequate at all to just take these 2000 year old sentences without considering the context. in the ancient workd everyone was forced by there parents to marry by the age of about 14. there were no homosexual couples. in all languages of this time there wasn't a word for homosexuality at all. so the only things they knew were pagan cults including gay sex and probably sometimes it ocurred that sometimes two gay men accidentally met and somehow felt attracted to each other (probably not really knowing what it means to be gay at all) and had sex. in this case they were betraying there wifes. plus there was raping of men by other men as a kind of sexual violence (like exists in prisons today. this is also is no homosexuality but a way of psychologically distructing men). for these cases hoosexual sex was prohibited. not for gay or lesbian couples living in a deep relationship conparable to a normal marriage and beeing faithful to each other. that's something that didn't exist in these times and therefore never was a topic to speak about.
in the new testament things changed a bit. when paul is refering to those people having unnatural intercourse he talks about the rich society that's totally decadent and somehow started to have homosexual sex during orgys as some kind of extra pleasure to their marriages. there were poor male prostitutes that made their livings by having sex with rich men. and also women did this stuff. so also paul is not talking about a deep relationship based on love between homosexual persons.
and that's also the point ehy there's no sense in talking jesus' words about man and woman becoming one flesh and pointing out the meaning man and man or woman and woman can't become one flesh. this was never an issue in these times. that's probably why jesus didn't think it's necessary to talk about these things.
so right now for me the answer to the question "what does the bible say to homosexuallity" is "nothing". the bible doesn't say anything about homosexuallity in the way we understand this word today as it doesn't say anything aboyt cars or computers. the bible says a lot about love and jesus stresses the importance of faithfullness. these terms are surely also important for homosexual relations. (btw the term marriage is also a lot different in ancient times compared to what it's now but that's another topic)
however, i'm not an expert on these topics. so i more or less repeated the arguments i heared from people having hughe knowledge of these things. but i hope someone will take his time to read my comment and start to think about these things in a different way. the bible is precious. but it's also very complex.
excuse for grammar mistakes - i'm actually german :D
actually the bible talks directly about that subject especially in leviticus, it is inherently unnatural and always brought negative effects to its victims, humans are meant to be male and female
Niiiiiiiice. Well put.
You say here that you take accurate Biblical knowledge and temper it with wisdom. But surely the Bible itself is wisdom? You say that you give the information in a way that shows respect for people. But surely the Bible itself is the ultimate respecter of human dignity in the image of God?
I am so confused here.
What do you guys think about Donald Trump and his military standards
why do i have to change who i am ? why will i be punished for being me? why do i have to pretend that i'm straight so i don't burn in hell?
you don't, homophobia is the sin here
I struggle so much because of this.. one person says this and the other says that and all I keep thinkig about is if Ill end up in hell because of something I cant control... and ik how it sounds like "desire" but I cant like girls.. that IS unnatural for me because I dont feel that way... I cant mentally nor physically force myself to do that God knows I would if I could.. I dont want to go to hell..