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  • @BigChungus-gz9vw
    @BigChungus-gz9vw 3 місяці тому +44

    Title is the only reason I’m watching.DONT CHANGE BEAUTIFUL TITLE

  • @fresco1642
    @fresco1642 3 місяці тому +125

    i know dan accidently put the tags in the title but i hope he doesnt change it for the memes lol

    • @aaronkaw4857
      @aaronkaw4857 3 місяці тому +2

      I was like WHAT A WILD TITLE I love it

    • @Ziggurat1
      @Ziggurat1 3 місяці тому +4

      Write it down

  • @fishermancy7719
    @fishermancy7719 3 місяці тому +51

    This title gave me a stroke oh my god

  • @egg_salad3478
    @egg_salad3478 3 місяці тому +8

    Ah, Persephone my beloved. Just finished a 45 Fear run with it earlier today and have been toying with upping it to 47 since I can add on Haunting with maxed Desperation if I just get lucky enough lol. Storm Ring in particular makes it so that you don't even really have to wait around for it to deal a ton of damage, and Persephone itself is great because A) % DMG increase goes nuts, and B) you can get either a good Chaos Cast *or* Spesh % increase and it works out, since both parts are key to its success at higher Fear. Glad you're giving it some love in this vid :)

    • @shinchan820000
      @shinchan820000 3 місяці тому

      Can you explain this aspect to me,what does mean by that 'glory' ?

    • @egg_salad3478
      @egg_salad3478 3 місяці тому +3

      @@shinchan820000 , sure thing. Glory is the name for what’s in the gauge next to the skull/ammo number on the bottom left of the HUD. It’s built up by dealing damage with your Omega Cast (and any Boons specifically associated with said Omega Cast), and each bit of damage from from it increases the length of time that your Omega Special lasts for, up to a maximum of three extra seconds. What’s even better, though, is that Persephone increases *all* of your Omega damage by 30% at Level Five, which applies for those aforementioned Omega Cast Boons, and you also gain control of your Omega Special while it’s active, which allows you to stick close to Bosses or navigate floors very quickly and easily while being completely invincible. There’s a ton of builds that work well for it even up into 40 Fear for those reasons.

    • @shinchan820000
      @shinchan820000 3 місяці тому +1

      @@egg_salad3478 ohh thats glory.long time playing this game just know what glory is lol.thank you for the explanation,gonna try high heat with these aspect.

  • @SaintoftheHonest
    @SaintoftheHonest 3 місяці тому +7

    For thos who don't know, Cronus (the Titan) is functionally THE first major antagonist of Greek Mythology.
    When he was young, he castrated his father (Uranus), separating Heaven from Earth, with this act making him King of the Titans. Then when he learned that he'd be overthrown by one of his children (the gods), he ATE them at birth, with the only reason Zeus survived being that Rhea (Cronus' wife and sister - sweet home Alabama) hid him. As such, Zeus grew up and defeated Cronus, cutting his siblings (fully grown) out of Cronus' stomach. While there's some variations on what happened next, including him becoming King in Elysium, the most common resolution of his story (and the one Supergiant seems to be going with) is that his pieces were buried in Tartarus, to prevent him being able to coming back. An unpleasant fan theory is that the reason he was able to come back *anyway* is that Zagreus gathering a shedload of Titan Blood in one place.

    • @ruxbon
      @ruxbon 3 місяці тому

      granddad explains that the satyrs helped him return, but there's something about blood in the dialogue that I don't recall perfectly, probably blood rituals, idk
      so, I assume that Zag actually delayed his return by dealing with the satyrs, but him taking all that titan blood back to Tartarus might have helped, anyway, indeed. I can't wait for more lore to be added to this game

  • @justarandomdood
    @justarandomdood 3 місяці тому +1

    28:34
    Smithy Sprint uses 10 Magick from the Wheel before Dan even fights anything LMAO

  • @MDoorpsy
    @MDoorpsy 3 місяці тому +3

    They could implement minor buffs for when you take minor finds. A question is whether they would have unique buffs for each type of resource, or if they just, say, have an incantation that gives you +3/+3 Max Health/Magic whenever you pick up a minor find. Could tie max health to bones, max magic to psyche, random pom slice to nectar like the first game, and maybe ash can get you added rerolls, since keys aren't in this game?

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 3 місяці тому +2

    Hades: Death 2 Chronos (Electric Boogaloo)

  • @zombotany3443
    @zombotany3443 3 місяці тому +1

    Seismic hammers blast seems to count as cast damage, since there's no way you did less than 2.7k damage with it when you hit chronos with it 4 times in just that fight alone.
    That would also explain why, despite being called a blast, that it doesn't apply vent, because the game recognizes it as cast damage instead of a hefy blast.

  • @drawbyyourselve
    @drawbyyourselve 3 місяці тому +3

    Kronos revolted against his father uranos, who cursed him with the same fate, i.e. his children will usurp him.
    Kronos then proceeded not to have children and either reigned in a golden age, which many didnt like because when he overthrew uranos he also imprisoned the cyclops' and hekantoncheirs in tartaros. After some time he fancied rhea and had 6 children, of which he promptly ate 5, not eating the one who would be named zeus. After growing up zeus would trick kronos into throwing up his siblings and together waging war against him, winning after freeing the imprisoned if tartaros (getting cyclops weapons for everyone, like the trident or the lightning and the extreme strength of the hekatoncheirs who could throw mountains). With his own scythe/sickle kronos was cut into a million pieces and strewn about tartarus (some also say he was delegated king of elysium) and zeus and the gods became the rulers of the universe.
    The titans that allied with kronos were punished, while the others remained fine.
    Also chronus and kronos are two separate beings, one about general wealth and the other about time and its influence on humans. They later were mixed into a single entity, similar to what happened to zagreus and dionysus.

  • @VoermanIdiot
    @VoermanIdiot 3 місяці тому

    It's funny how arguably the Hourglass enemies have one of the most predictable projectile patterns in the game, and yet it somehow mathematically manages to hit everyone every dang time.

  • @David-ol6fw
    @David-ol6fw 3 місяці тому

    Can't believe you didn't get an attack boon until the last chamber.

  • @nickmeriweather587
    @nickmeriweather587 3 місяці тому

    What if they literally combined the effects? 3 strikes, in a slightly faster succession, first is anvil+geyser, second is only a stronger anvil and third is a geyser with +100% radius.

  • @MrBilly5960
    @MrBilly5960 3 місяці тому

    23:12 I don't know if that's a bug or not, but isn't Heph's armor boon supposed to make you immune to push and pull effects? You definitely still had armor and immediately got pulled in. I could be wrong, but that seemed weird

  • @joegaudi
    @joegaudi 3 місяці тому +1

    I dont need to be able to get all the arcana cards but id love some Loadouts so i dont have to mess with them every run

  • @ThRollingCoinGaming
    @ThRollingCoinGaming 3 місяці тому

    This is the first thing I tried when I saw the buff. Needless to say, it went well

  • @darthelmet1
    @darthelmet1 3 місяці тому

    On the meta progression and cards thing: Maybe I'm in the minority, but I really don't like heavy meta progression in roguelikes. I basically played Hades I/II in spite of those systems and they wore me down enough that I almost didn't finish the story for Hades I.
    I think some small meta progression is fine as essentially a way to gameify the tutorial by gating complexity. But I think games like Hades go completely overboard in two important ways(Not unique to this game though):
    1. It just takes a long time to unlock everything, which feels like a grind. By the time I've unlocked everything I'm not necessarily still interested in playing more. Which is weird, because there are games without meta progression that I've played for hundreds of hours beyond completing their toughest challenges. Maybe it's that thing about extrinsic rewards diminishing intrinsic motivation. It could also be that for a long time you don't really feel like you're playing the "real" game.
    2. This is the bigger one for me and what more directly relates to the cards: There's too much to set up before you go on a run. To me, the great thing about rogue-likes and some similar genres, such as auto-battlers, is that I can load up the game and just jump into a run without any mental overhead and then I get to make a lot of small choices throughout the run that feel manageable and ultimately shape the unique experience of the run.
    In Hades 2, before I can do a run (skipping past all the hub stuff), I have to choose a weapon, choose a weapon aspect, choose a whole complicated arcana board setup, choose a fear setup, and choose a starting keepsake, which will usually be a god keepsake so that I can force whatever build I've planned on going in. The result is:
    - It's actually pretty draining to start a run, making me less likely to boot up the game or go for one more run after finishing the last one.
    - So much of how your run will go is decided before you've even entered. Between your weapon aspect, arcana cards, and fear, there are going to be certain boons and hammers that make sense for your build and some that don't. So instead of it feeling like you're seeing what the game has to offer you and making the best of what you got, it feels more like you're gambling for the pieces of whatever build you want. If you don't find those pieces, it just makes the run feel like a failure rather than it's own unique experience. That's not to say you can't win, of course you can. It's an action game. If you don't put the timer on and are skilled enough you could beat the game with nothing more than a stick. But that's not really the point. The roguelike systems are there because they're fun. So even if you could and do win the run where you get none of the boons or hammers you wanted, it's probably gonna feel disappointing. Weirdly, the game kind of supports this build forcing with the god keepsakes and rolling, but then provides you with no options for manipulating what hammers you see. With how specialized the setup you take into a run can be, how often do you see 3 choices of hammers that don't fit with what you want to do then actually pivot to play around them? Doesn't it usually just feel like a dud and you hope to find what you want on the 2nd hammer? Maybe that's just a balancing thing. I guess if the hammers were way more powerful than the aspects/cards you could see one that makes you want to pivot your build. But that then takes away from the identity of the weapon aspects. The out of run and in run systems are in tension with one another. The more one matters, the less the other does.

  • @thecactusman17
    @thecactusman17 3 місяці тому +1

    It's this a Hades video or a chicken parm recipe?

  • @2185wisai
    @2185wisai 3 місяці тому

    2 fast 2 furious

  • @Urishan
    @Urishan 3 місяці тому

    Would it be a Haelian run if he didn't discuss soup, butts and fried rice?

  • @2185wisai
    @2185wisai 3 місяці тому

    artificer 5 hammer run when

  • @MhuFox
    @MhuFox 3 місяці тому

    How is it that the special sometimes last forever and sometimes it just end on impact?
    Fr this aspect is the cheese rn if only Chronos has a dialogue as to why I'm beating him with the same aspect every night 😂

    • @nikuteh4058
      @nikuteh4058 3 місяці тому +1

      it literally says that the omega casts charge up the omega special length 😭

  • @tihomirkostic9043
    @tihomirkostic9043 3 місяці тому +1

    Do not the title very good

  • @thanatos7007
    @thanatos7007 3 місяці тому

    Hephaestus boons are so booty. I remember one of the balance guys doing an interview, making noises about those boons being too powerful, bunch of nonsense. I sneer when I see Hephaestus.
    They need to do away with cooldowns on the damage entirely, make it build to big burst damage by using the move instead, it pops on every third attack or fifth attack or whatever, just make the trigger me doing something instead of waiting for it.

  • @MarchuTV
    @MarchuTV 3 місяці тому

    What the fuck is this title.

  • @tokilladaemon
    @tokilladaemon 3 місяці тому +1

    i think the difference between the mirror and the cards is that while yes, you couldn't get everything from the mirror, almost all the choices were pretty equivalent to each other and each kind of did the same thing in a different way (3hp per chamber vs darkness healing, dd vs stubborn d etc). with the cards you have to give up some mechanics entirely for the sake of others.
    maybe we could have it so that once you fully upgrade a card, you get a much weaker version of its effect passively without needing to pick it. so like you start with 50 gold instead of 300, or you heal 1hp per chamber instead of 4, but you don't feel like you're totally foregoing it. i personally like the card system more, but i think this would help some players not to be so stuck with decision paralysis

  • @elizabethalderman8749
    @elizabethalderman8749 3 місяці тому +48

    I can’t wait to see their reunion. The aspect is cool but I really want the FAMILY REUNITED award back

  • @MDoorpsy
    @MDoorpsy 3 місяці тому +55

    With the card system, I think we can all agree that one change that should be implemented is the ability to actively turn OFF awakening cards, since that one that gives you max health every few rooms is actively detrimental to white antler runs. Or if you don't want divinity because you have the fear that locks max magic for taking rare boons. Also they should just let us save card loadouts, if they want the decision on which to take to be so important to what build you want.

    • @ineophobe
      @ineophobe 3 місяці тому +1

      true

    • @sp_chronom
      @sp_chronom 3 місяці тому

      @@ineophobe YOU ARE HERE TOO?

    • @ineophobe
      @ineophobe 3 місяці тому

      @@sp_chronom what

  • @ThePoodle
    @ThePoodle 3 місяці тому +9

    " Hades 2 | Hades 2: Death 2 Chronos: 2 Hades 2 Heracles: Hades²" Truly the video game

  • @dzakisnthere
    @dzakisnthere 3 місяці тому +27

    i love the new title for the game

  • @teusz16
    @teusz16 3 місяці тому +12

    I love Super Hades 2 Adventure Battles Deluxe & Knuckles feat. Ludacris

  • @theformation3781
    @theformation3781 3 місяці тому +14

    25:40 seismic hammer doesn't inflict vent it seems, that's so cool man i love how hephaestus's cast and seismic hammer don't inflict vent despite clearly being blasts

  • @theodadagian6932
    @theodadagian6932 3 місяці тому +5

    You should try a dark side hex run where you get the omega cast path of stars upgrade with Poseidon cast. With Momus aspect you can get like four + omega casts per second

  • @Drewberslol
    @Drewberslol 3 місяці тому +4

    Hey dude thank you so much for all the Hades content. I have learned so much and have been so entertained. I wouldn't have experimented with builds if it weren't for you.

  • @danielpollack7442
    @danielpollack7442 3 місяці тому +4

    Oceanus is cool but Supergiant cooked with the mourning fields. I get why the openness of it might be annoying but the art in the area, the music, and the enemies in it all feel so innovative.

  • @powhahaa
    @powhahaa 3 місяці тому +2

    Build suggestion: charon axe, poseidon cast, aphro special and their duo. The dmg is very nice

    • @parkerault2607
      @parkerault2607 3 місяці тому +1

      The poseidon cast actually does less damage than the regular cast. It does lower damage because you can spam it much more often than the regular omega casts that linger for a few seconds. However, the charon axe gives you the same benefit without the reduction in damage, so you're (much) better off with something like solar ring, or aphro + grandma cyclone cast to apply +50% curse damage, and the arcana that gives you +100 power to your omega cast. Big D.

  • @TheBitingBat
    @TheBitingBat 3 місяці тому +8

    Death 2 Chronos

  • @THEAWESOMEGHOST
    @THEAWESOMEGHOST 3 місяці тому +2

    I really don’t get this aspect. I actually think Mel’s aspect on the skull is ridiculously underappreciated and also very magic independent

  • @justarandomdood
    @justarandomdood 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't like the cards because I hate how complicated it is 😭 makes me feel like I'm doing three/two interlocking puzzles with the cards, the Fear setup, and (only a little bit) the general build I wanna get for a run and if I can even get the things I want.
    -------------
    Maybe it'll be less annoying if we can get equivalents of Benefits Package, Middle Management, and Extreme Measures as Fears that aren't just "take your character and build and make them mathematically worse, and take the enemies and make them mathematically better"
    enemies deal more damage, enemies have more health, enemies have barriers, enemies are faster, Melinoë takes more damage from the 1st hit, more enemies, less healing, increased price, start with 0 magick, 1 fewer boon, prime Magick for non-commons.
    These aren't the same as middle management making minibosses more interesting and difficult, these are all "take numbers away from player or give extra numbers to enemies" and that's fine but just feels like a *_slog_* to get through.
    And then if you have a build that uses Magick, you *almost*(?) don't want Excellence, Queen, or Divinity, but then turning them off might fuck with your other cards and like...
    UGHHHHHHH
    In H1, if I wanted a build that required a Duo like Merciful End Fists or Beowulf with Mirage Shot, then I'm fine with giving up Epic boons to set up for it. It's a nice and simple binary choice and if you want one you give uo another and it didn't automatically and irrevocably mess with the rest of your mirror.
    ------------
    Maybe if they let you move cards around so that you could "activate an entire row" or "activate all surrounding cards" more easily and maybe if they let you turn off Awakened Cards so that we wouldn't need 2 save files for Centaur vs non-Centaur, and maybe this-that-and-the-other-thing, I'd like it more, but it feels like my brain is drained from working the Cards and Fear before I even "start" a run :/

  • @lyla-ds3zh
    @lyla-ds3zh 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't know why, but over 50% of your youtube underworld runs begin with a selene boon.

  • @enzoalbuquerque7740
    @enzoalbuquerque7740 3 місяці тому +1

    i made a run today with the dress from aracne and heph too and took that boon that every room i gain 15 armor, so when the dress broke in a chamber the next one the dress was with me again, but just worked until the mourning fields
    i think its because he broked up in encounters and there has like 3 encounters for chamber so...
    its not a lie, or maybe it was just a bug for me 😂

  • @parkerault2607
    @parkerault2607 3 місяці тому

    All of the hephaestus cooldowns are so long they make the boons basically worthless. I really hope they massively buff them in the upcoming patch.

  • @tobiasaugustodeoliveiradia9417
    @tobiasaugustodeoliveiradia9417 3 місяці тому

    Scorch isn't that good but i feel that hestia is in a very good place as a support god, like athena.her sprint is op against eris, her cast is amazing to get 2 curses, and she has plenty of good duos, also, if you want damage you gotta go for the 300 trigger and up it to lvl 3

  • @aebisdecunter
    @aebisdecunter 3 місяці тому

    He had the perfect opportunity to get Hephaestus/Hera Duo boon for +200% attack this run...

  • @levipeterken4020
    @levipeterken4020 3 місяці тому

    The mirror is just confusing is all. It takes too long to figure out what you want to take into a run

  • @holynder3181
    @holynder3181 3 місяці тому

    what the hell is that title lmao

  • @andrewwalsh6692
    @andrewwalsh6692 3 місяці тому

    Love the content, just finished an insane run with Zeus and Hephy! Keep it up! Death to Chronos

  • @Purgingcrab
    @Purgingcrab 3 місяці тому

    Imagine if Hestias burn charged glory

  • @RadI962O55
    @RadI962O55 3 місяці тому

    32:35 Would ramen be soup then

  • @slashs1318
    @slashs1318 3 місяці тому

    lmao this titleee

  • @hjt091
    @hjt091 3 місяці тому

    Can Toula's death defiance be refilled by things like Echo and Nemesis if you use it?

    • @egg_salad3478
      @egg_salad3478 3 місяці тому

      Yes, actually! If you lose all of your Death Defiances as well as Toula’s, you can get four (or however many you have) of Echo’s Defiances since it counts as a Defiance and doesn’t save what type it was

    • @ThePoodle
      @ThePoodle 3 місяці тому

      @@egg_salad3478 that last one would be 12.5% life regen lol

  • @DavidBeaumont
    @DavidBeaumont 3 місяці тому

    It's definitely true that you can restore Arachne's dress after it has expired. It surprised the heck out of me when it happened to me. This applies to the keepsake, not a dress she gives you, and you must still have the keepsake on of course.