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  • @thehibib
    @thehibib 3 місяці тому +110

    I love the changes to Hestia, she's feels way better and more fun, especially with torches and Hera.

    • @Darkdray123
      @Darkdray123 3 місяці тому

      How did scorch exactly change I haven’t played it yet but didn’t understand the patch notes

    • @AroluciB
      @AroluciB 3 місяці тому

      It does more damage, ​@@Darkdray123

    • @alexursu4403
      @alexursu4403 3 місяці тому

      @@AroluciB Wait, they DID change how Scorch ticks ? Or you mean the Duo Boon with Demeter ?

    • @ethanvol7440
      @ethanvol7440 3 місяці тому

      they done butchered Hestia and Hera's gains lol

    • @thehibib
      @thehibib 3 місяці тому

      @@alexursu4403 it ticks at the same rate (I think) but it does more damage somehow?

  • @redvenomweb
    @redvenomweb 3 місяці тому +3

    Hearth Gain works really well with Moros torches, by using Omega special and then spamming normal attack into it. It also works pretty well with skulls, firing off your attacks and then using Omega special to mop up and collect your skulls. Either build is self-sustaining on magick.

  • @vespertine2581
    @vespertine2581 3 місяці тому +1

    Something I’ve noticed, which might be interesting to try (for science!)
    - Aphro’s magick regen - Now automatically apply weak to nearby enemies.
    - Aphro’s legendary - Now apply extra 3 (iirc?) random curses to enemies with weak?
    - Aphro-Pos Duo - All enemies are considered nearby
    Will having these 3 boons automatically apply weak + 3 random curses to all enemies in the room? Idk if it’s busted, but sounds really fun tbh.

    • @vespertine2581
      @vespertine2581 3 місяці тому +1

      What’s great about the new aphro’s magick regen is that the weak curse stays on the enemies for full duration even after you leave the enemies. Might not be the strongest regen, but in term of applying 2nd curse status effect for origination isnt that really busted? You don’t have to attack, drop cast, or even dash to the enemies!

    • @stitchfruit3538
      @stitchfruit3538 3 місяці тому

      i got this build first run in new patch, yes it does work, i also had hestia-aphro duo which made scorch tick forever if enemy has weak (which they always do because of glam gain) its really good and kinda wipes out half the room by itself bcs of effects like vent, blitz, and scorc(with duo)

  • @jjstarrprod
    @jjstarrprod 3 місяці тому

    That's one of the first duos I wanted to try (well, I mostly was curious to see how scorch was buffed in general) and GODDAMN !
    I had a similar idea as you to try it on the torches specials (except I went with Eos, for double specials bonanzas, and I also wanted to see how Eos's daybreaker was changed, and GODDAMN too ! It finally tracks enemies ! Instead of floating off to the vast void of space !)
    Needless to say, I had a run almost as disgusting as yours (I didn't have Zeus, so no DemZeus duo, and I still have yet to try the Herastia duo, which looks disgusting !), but just DemHestia was more than enough to cheese the game at 20 fears !
    Certainly a pleasant surprise !

  • @BillyBobJoeJonson
    @BillyBobJoeJonson 3 місяці тому +1

    my first run with a scorch build after the patch i finished with 160k scorch damage it feels great now especially since pyro technique isnt legendary anymore and is way more accessible

  • @ronynammour
    @ronynammour 3 місяці тому

    I tried aspect of eos with hestia and aphro duo boon, one of the most insane damage outputs I've had
    Tho i think it might be bugged cause I didn't feel like the ticks killed the bosses or idk i might have missed
    Either way,still an insane load out

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock 3 місяці тому

    pretty sure if you go Hestia you should be taking pickaxe for the chance at one 1 to improve hestia's infusion boon.

  • @tealwombat
    @tealwombat 3 місяці тому

    Probably too late for this to be seen, but Hestia attack has always been more damage than the special. All other gods it's the reverse. Probably an oversight, but it's survived multiple patches already

  • @samuelamity8971
    @samuelamity8971 3 місяці тому +74

    With the change to artificer I have been messing with it more. I have found a decent way to relatively often get a third hammer with. In the mourning fields make sure you have still have transforms remaining. Whenever you are in a location with a hammer, transform the minor rewards in that room before collecting the hammer. There is a chance one of them will roll into a hammer giving you a second hammer, with the one originally in your room being the third.

    • @DesTr069
      @DesTr069 3 місяці тому +30

      And then you get echo for a fourth hammer, then equip the keepsake to get a fifth, then get an anvil to have 6 hammers LETS GOOOO

    • @azmyadzkiansyah279
      @azmyadzkiansyah279 3 місяці тому

      @@DesTr069 echo doesn't dupe hammers. I've tried that and she gave me the second-to-last item

    • @hekatonapi3697
      @hekatonapi3697 3 місяці тому +8

      @@azmyadzkiansyah279 have they changed that? Can you confirm?

    • @HerMi.T
      @HerMi.T 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@azmyadzkiansyah279 what? there is no mention of that in the patch.

    • @stashladki2594
      @stashladki2594 3 місяці тому +3

      @@azmyadzkiansyah279 AI response LMAO

  • @Hezzers
    @Hezzers 3 місяці тому +32

    I don't think Hail Storm really got any kind of chance to shine, because you already had Freezer Burn with high levels of Scorch. So just like how Scorch numbers were understated because it was all being converted into Freezer Burn damage, Hail Storm was understated because Freezer Burn was just instantly killing everything. Heck, Blood Line was probably massively understated because of this, too, but that one wouldn't be as easy to use as Hail Storm is anyway.
    Also, I'm in love with the new Hera cast. You don't need to Omega Cast it to make use of it, its solid for newly spawning enemies, and it applies Hitch to enemies that are within the cast area now, too, so it's still good for enemies that are already in the fight. And now that killing blows properly sends out the Hitch damage, its an amazing crowd killer.

    • @tanewby3861
      @tanewby3861 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree and was thinking the same thing

    • @daichi7887
      @daichi7887 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed, the early Freezer Burn over shadowed Hail Storm and Bloodline only cause they were used as the main form of attack~ but put the other way around they would've done numbers!

  • @PWzhouster
    @PWzhouster 3 місяці тому +5

    I played a different variant of this using Mel's skull with the three Duos between Zeus, Hestia, and Demeter, and Blitz strike+arctic ring. Also happened to get the amazing Omega-Attack-pickup hammer alongside some additional Omega damage, but regardless the play pattern was basically the same:
    Spamming attacks would apply, then proc Blitz, which in turn applied a ton of scorch (from the Zeus/Hestia duo + Hestia's Highly Flammamble for first time scorch application),
    Would then run into the enemies, drop arctic ring to freeze (blowing up the applied scorch, applying hail storm thunderbolts) while picking up my skulls (thereby triggering yet more explosions, and more blitzes).
    Would also work at point-blank once the gap was closed, just ludicrous damage.
    I feel like the balance patch really made the duos synergize with each other better, on top of enhancing the identities of the gods.

  • @kainingyao7873
    @kainingyao7873 3 місяці тому +9

    Now it looks like Freezer Burn is the new Merciful End.

  • @Rajsist
    @Rajsist 3 місяці тому +14

    Hey, just wanted to tell you that Hera's new cast Engagement ring could be really useful in speedruns. Got it to heroic with her keepsake on accident, decided to try... it deletes most of 2nd wavespawn on summon in first two levels...

  • @iCortex1
    @iCortex1 3 місяці тому +9

    I made a Hestia / Zeus build with the Eos Torches, was insane !! I had the Thermal Dynamics duo - reaaaaaaally fun
    *Your Blitz effects also inflict Sorch whenever they deal damage (80 scorch)

  • @BurrowCreature
    @BurrowCreature 3 місяці тому +26

    I have an Arcana grasp of 32 after the update, I think I will never change it back

    • @swayamsengupta9420
      @swayamsengupta9420 3 місяці тому +1

      what how

    • @Soncikuro
      @Soncikuro 3 місяці тому

      ​@@swayamsengupta9420a bug, of course.

    • @Killerzain1106
      @Killerzain1106 3 місяці тому +5

      Got 34 and same😂

    • @BurrowCreature
      @BurrowCreature 3 місяці тому

      @@swayamsengupta9420 They changed arcana card values, but allow you to keep your current loadout after the update

    • @astrostrider2305
      @astrostrider2305 3 місяці тому

      @@swayamsengupta9420 if you had certain cards on that got changed to more expensive you still have em activated now but as soon as you change it you cant go back

  • @crystallizer7308
    @crystallizer7308 3 місяці тому +9

    Ive been taking artificer in previous patch to help make Erebus a smoother experience with respect to the tightest desperation timer. It going down to 3 grasp has felt so good, and the balancing overall went to a funner direction

  • @itspikachu4919
    @itspikachu4919 3 місяці тому +7

    My first run on the new patch also had both freezer burn + hail storm and it was so damn satisfying

  • @Inhereflackin
    @Inhereflackin 3 місяці тому +3

    Can’t express how much I appreciate that the titles and thumbnails aren’t littered with spoilers. Haven’t watched a video because I want to go in blind but I’m subbed so I see it all lol. Just a thank you for keeping it cool

  • @DW-lb6hw
    @DW-lb6hw 3 місяці тому +2

    If people feel its too easy, put on more oaths /shrug

  • @lukehanson2032
    @lukehanson2032 3 місяці тому +3

    Is it just me or why is everyone bummed about hearth gain?? You’d basically have infinite magic with the torches cuz you’d get mana back on every hit of your specials. Seems way better in this scenario than Zeus’s magic regen

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 2 місяці тому

      it has poor synergy with most weapons. Skull? Only hits few times. Staff? Forces you basic attack over omega spam. Axe? Slow attackspeed. Dagger? Slow attackspeed for special. Torches is only good synergy.

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      The Skulls are just Problematic in General but for every other Weapon, the new Heart Gain is Awesome.
      I actually Disabled my Magic Regen Arcana thanks to the new Magic Gains.

  • @pkbeamgamma9262
    @pkbeamgamma9262 3 місяці тому +5

    messed around with hail storm yesterday and it was soo fun

  • @countjunk6465
    @countjunk6465 3 місяці тому +1

    Hearth Gain is amaaaaaaaaaazing with aspect of eos its basically infinite magic

  • @Athacalus
    @Athacalus 3 місяці тому +1

    Impossible run. For Chronos to survive.

  • @PrincessEowynn
    @PrincessEowynn 3 місяці тому +1

    I was already a big Hestia special on Mel torches enthusiast but this just makes it seem even better

  • @Wisarg
    @Wisarg 3 місяці тому +1

    I know its one of your first runs of the patch and your opinion may have changed since, but Hestia new magick regen is insane with the right weapons imho. Daggers and Torches have really fast atk speed which makes the mana almost feel like infinite. You also have way to double your Attack or Spec, like Extra Dose from Apollo, the hammers for the Staff that gives double Spec or double attacks so it doubles the gains etc. In my torches run (Eos) i got only a common Hearth Gain and never upgraded it, and i didn't even feel like i had mana to manage lel.
    Also Hestia is now probably one of the best God for torches runs imho.
    Attack speed is fast so the Magick regen boon is insane, Special is a "passive" damage dealing move that can build up Scorch to thousands, the Fireball for Omega Special is really strong and give the button a nice projectile.. And its so fitting that Fire torches make use of Hestia the best ahah. Anyway i had a really basic run with Hestia, only Rare lv3 special, a common faster tick rate boon and the one that makes the first Scorch instance like 100.. and Scorch did like 50k damage even with this garbo setup lol. I think its definitly in the right place!
    I also think Daggers are so easy to make use of the Demeter+Hestia duo : Scorch on attack with the fastest attack speed weapon + Demeter on special which we don't use on Meli Aspect + Aphro's cast, rush or mana regen to get Weak and enable the duo to make Scorch never run down. You get to insane levels of Scorch and if you don't chose the Boon that makes Scorch tick faster, its even better.. and when you want, you can just throw a random knife that will deal 200% of all your Scorch uhuh.

  • @ysk_dead4213
    @ysk_dead4213 3 місяці тому +4

    Fire so cold it burns

  • @SyntheticaYT
    @SyntheticaYT 3 місяці тому

    Hestia feels really good now. Just getting her cast + Demeter cyclone-on-cast feels crazy strong for how easy it is. Just drop the cast on them, they get Origination going instantly and start taking nice Scorch damage.

  • @ChaosCause3000
    @ChaosCause3000 3 місяці тому

    On the difficulty of Chronos: I feel like his phase 2 feels more like an EM phase 3 difficulty - the area is small and his attack range is quite large, there isn’t much space to hide and a lot of stuff is happening.
    I only beat him after watching your video, because I didn’t realize you had to dash over some stuff and that you had to stand in the ring because so much stuff was happening 😂 But ever since then I’ve beaten him multiple times, often with all 3 DD left.

  • @kylelataxes1595
    @kylelataxes1595 3 місяці тому

    I’m so glad Hestia and scorch got some love and reworking. I loved doing Dio hangover stuff in Hades 1 so I was excited for the scorch mechanic, but it felt so bad before this patch most of the time. This run makes it almost seem too strong, but you did get duos and stuff to make it kinda busted, too. On the topic of difficulty of the game overall, I will say that I feel like Chronos is way harder than Hades on your first few attempts, and that this game is significantly more difficult than Hades 1 starting out. I’m a semi-casual player. I don’t play at all during the week and then play a lot on weekends. Took me a while to get to Chronos for the first time, and then when I finally did, I barely made it. Then I died before I even knew what was happening. I wasn’t too upset about that, because final boss is final boss. I had a similar experience when I got to Hades the first time. Get better and I need more meta progression. I also didn’t watch any Hades 2 gameplay videos after early release until I got to Chronos because I didn’t want any story spoilers. It took me a lot longer in this game to get my first clear because it does seem a lot harder to scale your damage to the point of being somewhat viable than in Hades 1, which I’m fine with, and also not watching gameplay because of not wanting to have spoilers, which was my own choice. I did finally watch your “baby’s first Chronos” guide after dying to him a bunch of times because I got so sick of dying so fast and never got a chance to feel out the fight and learn the mechanics. I think my second or third attempt I got to phase 2 and instantly died and had no idea what was happening. Basically my first experiences with Chronos from the perspective of a casual were way more frustrating than with Hades and they could afford to dial him down just a little bit. I think they should make Cerberus a lot more difficult than he is. Took me a little while to beat the sirens for the first time, but then in the same run I steamrolled Cerberus first try. Maybe it was a combination of me getting better and having something viable going and understanding the new mechanics better after many failures in the spirit of the genre, but I do feel like Cerberus was too easy.

  • @crashymate6770
    @crashymate6770 3 місяці тому

    Has anyone got hot flash duo with freezer burn?
    If you use Hestia cast with this combo I think it will break the game but I havent managed to get them both.
    Pash dash to activate hot flash and the cast scorch doesnt diminish when Demeters attack or special activates freezer burn. So the freezer burn numbers would go insane really quick (also possible that freezer burn just cancels out hot flash or you cant even get them both in a run)

  • @prominence1351
    @prominence1351 3 місяці тому

    Since I know how much you love Judgement, it's even easier to activate with the right column for quick epics and even quicker duo boons

  • @vaibhavdesai7001
    @vaibhavdesai7001 3 місяці тому

    Boys I tried Charon axe last night and got the Apollo legendary and the double omega special hammer but the omega special only triggered twice. also does anybody know how to get the cast down twice ?

  • @robocrop5862
    @robocrop5862 3 місяці тому +1

    a heroic demeter gain restore 100% magick

  • @venkateshbatman
    @venkateshbatman 3 місяці тому

    Crazy how ionic gain is just fluid gain but better, guess we know who's the better brother

  • @StankyTurtleMK
    @StankyTurtleMK 3 місяці тому

    I think chronos' difficulty is fine. It took me losing to him about 6 times until i was able to beat him and since then ive been able to beat him more than half the time. If anything i think hades is too hard as the final boss. I could never consistently beat hades,

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 3 місяці тому

    I'm really glad they gave a reason to collect resources after unlocking everything. I've never been able to get over my habit of grabbing everything i see

  • @JM-vy3ep
    @JM-vy3ep 3 місяці тому

    Please try the new hera lightning bolt on omega boon with torches attack its funny

  • @silkspell
    @silkspell 3 місяці тому

    I tried hephe and aphro duo with sunny disposision and the result was glorious

  • @Zephyr_Zero
    @Zephyr_Zero 3 місяці тому

    you could try scorch on the normal attack of the twin blades

  • @Vermintz
    @Vermintz 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey by the way don't forget about artificer

  • @ThRollingCoinGaming
    @ThRollingCoinGaming 3 місяці тому +1

    Was trying new scorch out just now! It feels great

  • @tulicloure
    @tulicloure 3 місяці тому

    Isn't Blood Line fine enough considering that it's just a standalone boon that may add some "free" damage to all your Omegas?
    I mean, you did get it as an Epic, but it's not like you had to plan your build for it or anything.
    5th most damage sounds pretty decent for that, IMO.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 2 місяці тому

      bloodline is kinda overpowered for Skull because you can just spam omega bloodline, use special for omega, omega cast. it does so much damage on its own that you can just build mana and so crazy damage. Just get Zeus Ionic gain for infinity magic, build max mana and bloodline pops off.

  • @Bexar2204
    @Bexar2204 3 місяці тому

    Holy shiiiiiiiit! That damage was disgustingly high

  • @theomonteiro9530
    @theomonteiro9530 3 місяці тому

    I think its the most crazy run I have seen wow

  • @MachiBiachi
    @MachiBiachi 3 місяці тому

    Bro, Hestia attack, Demeter special, Poseidon dash, with aspect of Melinoë dual blades, could be INSANE

  • @pedromoura8806
    @pedromoura8806 3 місяці тому

    I DID THIS WITH PAN AND WAS ABSOLUTELLY INSANE

  • @rektalizertv9958
    @rektalizertv9958 3 місяці тому

    Just played same run before watching your video, got three duos: +1 for keepsake, 4 infusions and hestia/demeter one. This run was such a damn breeze on 20 chaos, never felt easier on chronos fight (apart from zero chaos ofc). Hestia going hard now after all the "Oh no, not Hestia pls" (Infusion boon gonna get nerfed 4 sure)
    P.S. Also got extremely lucky to get the chaos boon from keepsake that gives you more elements for infusions

  • @Razarex
    @Razarex 3 місяці тому

    Big orange number looks so fun

  • @2185wisai
    @2185wisai 3 місяці тому

    took me 80 attempts to beat chronos

  • @lanceykins
    @lanceykins 3 місяці тому

    Ive tried the new hera boon with the torch attack and every single one lands since you're firing in a straight line. It is expensive, but if you have good magik regen, its so good.

  • @sweep_swoop
    @sweep_swoop 3 місяці тому

    Thought this boon looked insane when I saw it in a run last night. Didn’t get to use it too effectively cause I only had scorch on my attacks on mel torches lol

  • @michaelorrill1728
    @michaelorrill1728 3 місяці тому

    Algorithms

  • @aawaggaa
    @aawaggaa 3 місяці тому

    Aphrodite, Hestia and Hephaestus enjoyers are eating mighty this patch

  • @CaioSilva-yh8jo
    @CaioSilva-yh8jo 3 місяці тому

    damn...

  • @roadmann6803
    @roadmann6803 3 місяці тому

    How do you transform items

  • @nickschaus7785
    @nickschaus7785 3 місяці тому

    On the Chronos fight difficulty, I think it was just fine before, the only problem I had with him was the attack that threw his scythe. It took me around 10 tries to beat him, and that was the single biggest dealer of damage to me every one of those fights. It comes out so quick with almost zero windup and hits so hard, especially when learning the attacks I feel it could be more distinguishable (with the windup), come out a tad slower, or deal a bit less.
    Just my thoughts though, and keep in mind this was with 0 or 1 DD, it was very early in the save file, as I got more DDs and max hp through titan and the 5 encounter bonuses card it got much, much easier

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      No they just need to program him not to use that Move if you're at point blank range... It's Easier to react to at mid Distance.

  • @beckhampang191
    @beckhampang191 3 місяці тому

    Wait are the keepsakes bigger or is it just me

  • @agamemnon7518
    @agamemnon7518 3 місяці тому

    Chronos needs less phase changes IMO, it feels so bad that he has so much to just stop you, which kind of makes sense wirh his theming of time, but I always feel like his fight drags on

    • @HerMi.T
      @HerMi.T 3 місяці тому

      Chronos is a really good man. A final boss should challenge you more. A similar thing is true for the elden ring and its final boss.
      I don't understand criticism of it being hard even though nothing has a bullshit attack with undodgeable patterns.
      Everything can be dodge-able. In short, we should let them make some difficult bosses as the final one.

  • @Kohcta
    @Kohcta 3 місяці тому

    they buffed a lot. and made game much easier. now almost anything works. a there some just thick combos. like hera cast + local climat. which is not a bad things. as they can just tune it down in next patches.

    • @WizardofWestmarch
      @WizardofWestmarch 3 місяці тому +1

      Making the game easier just means you can take on more vows, so players who are struggling can get wins at lower fear and better players can chase higher fear without it feeling so cheap.

  • @nikatsu3260
    @nikatsu3260 3 місяці тому

    How do you open the codex to view the boons? I can open the codex, but I cant find the boon list

  • @garilthane
    @garilthane 3 місяці тому

    31:39 😳😳🫣🥰

  • @Hammy000
    @Hammy000 3 місяці тому +3

    I really really don't want them to make Chronos easier. They're already so many ways to nerf the fight yourself and he's the big baddie, it serves the narrative for him to not be a pushover.

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      The problem with Chronos was how much of an Outlier he was in terms of difficulty....
      Just look at your Stats next time you complete a Run.... Chronos always Deals more than Double the Damage to you more than Cerberus....
      He needs to harder relative to everything else... Not harder relative to everything *COMBINED* . 👀

    • @Hammy000
      @Hammy000 2 місяці тому

      @@lookalike4805 i strongly feel that this power creep in boss design is warranted when you the player are gonna be at the end of your power crawl. There are so so many busted builds and you can hoard all your death defiance for the fight, on top of that you have Hades buffs specifically for the final fight. Id be fine with an easy mode you can toggle in the game that decreases the damage, but I'd be so so so sad if they lower the difficulty for everyone by default.

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      @@Hammy000 your problem is you're only looking at this From your Point Of View and not from Someone who hasn't Progressed as Far as You. 👀

    • @Hammy000
      @Hammy000 2 місяці тому

      @@lookalike4805 no you

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      *Slowly Walks Away... 👀

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 3 місяці тому

    I already liked Hestia & Scorch, but now it's even better.
    Still wish they added more boons that had dash effects like Hades 1. As far as I know, Aphrodite is the only one with a boon that applies Weak with dash.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 2 місяці тому

      appolo applies daze. demester applies cyclone(as/ms debuff).

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 2 місяці тому

      @@dodang_9147 Those are for sprint though, not dash

  • @gabrielolaciregui
    @gabrielolaciregui 3 місяці тому

    Third

  • @Jcastria_
    @Jcastria_ 3 місяці тому

    First

  • @1blackjesus1
    @1blackjesus1 3 місяці тому

    💪🏿

  • @doggieboomer9079
    @doggieboomer9079 3 місяці тому

    No Athena, Ares, Dionysus?

  • @TheSUGA1202
    @TheSUGA1202 3 місяці тому

    I just beated chronos twice today and im going more casual, i think it is time for all the bosses to get a pact for that upgrades them tbh with the latests update it has become rather easy to beat the game.

    • @tyler403
      @tyler403 3 місяці тому +6

      That's what the vow of punishments are for

  • @kiers8136
    @kiers8136 3 місяці тому

    what does he mean when he says ''origination''

    • @metalmac2347
      @metalmac2347 3 місяці тому +1

      Origination is an Arcana card that makes you deal 50% more damage to enemies with two curses on them (freeze and scorch/weak and hitch etc)

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 2 місяці тому

      Also known as *Privelaged Status* I'm Hades I