Maybe the Excelsior had a 'Threshold' moment. We know they had to redo the interior when Sulu took over, maybe because 500 salamanders and their offspring made a bit of a mess.
Through a transporter accident, he ended up traveling through time and space to a galaxy far, far away. He found himself on-board a ship called the Century Vulture or the Millenium Falcon, something like that, anyway she was the fastest ship in fleet. There he discovered the "hyperdrive" an engine many times more powerful and faster than Warp drive and just as fast Transwarp. He then made his way back, installed it on the Enterprise, and there is your explanation.
Voyagers Quantum Slipstream was a workable technology - the main issue is that Voyager´s deflector array could do it in a pinch, but not sustainably. Also Voyager itselfd require rebuilding beyond their capacity - hull would need to be modified to withstand it, already mentioned deflector array would require different design, sensor package would need to be done differently to make it safe. Galaxy class with its wide and high profile could not likely do it. long story short - what Voyager brought is perfectly sufficient to make it work. It just needed a ship that is dedicated to make it work and not just a patchwork solution attempted on Voyager.
Awesome video!! "Transwarp in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1..." One would think during the Dominion War Section 31 would have perfected the transwarp drive in order to give the Federation Alliance a fighting chance rather than poison the Founders. Or use what they could during the wreckage from Borg ships to construct a Federation version of a transwarp coil/drive.
I wonder if the dominion experimented with faster than warp technology in order to get its fleets to the alpha quadrant during the war and the blockade of the wormhole.
The problem with salvaging Borg coils is that they had a failsafe. If the cube or sphere was ever disabled or nearly destroyed the coils would self-destruct to prevent salvage.
"Accelerate to infinite velocity." That episode is just so... Oooh it riles me. Even if we accept that infinity is reachable in a sci-fi 'verse like Star Trek, how do you 'accelerate' towards it? How many times do you need to double your speed until you hit infinity?
Having the ability to travel to any point in the universe (Threshold) the side effect of turning into a giant catfish and seemingly turning back with relative ease would be a small price to pay. Great watch.
I love this video of transwarp. In 1998, i believe, a series of Trek books came out called "The Captain's Table". In the end of one of the books, if I'm not remembering it wrong, a future USS Enterprise was about to use "sidewarp" to began to explore the gulf between galaxies. Hopefully, this was a prelude to the premise that transwarp was mastered or an entirely new direction was taken to reach "sidewarp".
I like the Wrath of Kahn nod at the end, "When you consider the possibility of being able to cross tens of thousands of light years in a very short amount of time, the benefits of this technology becomes clear." Funny thing is I don't remember having to submit to a retina scan in order to view this summary. ;-)
LOL Your computer or mobile device automatically scans your retina without asking, geez were in the future here :P LOL Thank you so much, most people dont notice the little things like that I do! :)
I wonder if Transwarp is fast enough to cross galaxies in a reasonable amount of time. If it could, Star Trek: Intergalactic could be an interesting show.
@@flatmars7072 Im sorry but where did you get the idea it took years for the Borg Cube to reach Earth in First Contact... There is NOTHING in canon that says that! it may have only taken them days for all we know...
TriAngulum First thank you for replying, and second off crap your right i feel like an idiot now. Correct me if im wrong, but In the episode of tng where q transports them to the wolf 359 cube, its on its way to earth for no apparent reason. A while later w. 359 happens. What if the first contact cube was sent to respond to 359? My point is your probably right and all that was my imagination Although why did it take so long for the first contact cube to arrive? I doubt the borg are lazy, so who knows? *cough* rick berman and ron moore *cough* Huge credit for being able to recount threshold with out dying of laughter. Love your vids and keep ip the good work
@@flatmars7072 :) LOL No problem :) I try to respond to everyone, but because of sheer volume of replies AND the fact UA-cam doesnt always tell me when theirs a comment sometimes I simply miss some as my first reply is only happening right now... Sorry about THAT Zachary! :) Anyhow, Dark, no problem on adding my 2 cents :P And yes you are correct EXCEPT for the distress call part, they werent able to do it as Picard destroyed the deflector dish! And also thank you about threshold, it took many takes to get THAT narration just right :P
I read back in the 80's that transwarp drive was just a set-up for the 'bucket of bolts' gag in which the USS Excelsior grinds to a halt. There's no such thing really as transwarp, it was only ever intended as a movie joke. ST3 does have the best quote ever in Trek; 'The more you overthink the plumbing, it's easier to stop up the drain' said Scotty to McCoy.
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Aren't transwarp conduits just Borg tech, not UFP?. Strictly speaking, they're a bit like wormholes, not really warp drive which is the manipulation of a subspace displacement field. Or as Geordie once eluded to, like dropping into an already fast-moving river.
To quote Ben Franklin, "I didn't fail a thousand times to develop Transwarp drive, I simply discovered a thousand new ways to not develop it, but I only need one to work."
Voyager brought up so many different drive systems. Transwarp, co-axial warp, quantum slipstream, temporal displacement drives, etc. How is TW different than QS, or CW for example. Perhaps Voyagers warp 10 trial may have been do-able with a governor added to stop the speed exceeding, say, warp 9.9999999, thereby preventing the damage done by warp 10.
And also to figure out how to navigate without a living pilot, since one option involves enslaving a creature and the other violates Federation law against genetic modification.
Who else thought that Q was behind turning Paris and Janeway into amphibians? I always felt that it was a tidbit that Q would drop at a later date and earn one of those perfect acid glares that Janeway reserved just for him. Q as a convenient plot device aside, he always seemed to put humans in situations that forced them to grow, so they wouldn't be annihilated later on. If warp 10 had succeeded when it did, not only would the show have ended, but the Borg would have remained too great a threat.
In 1935 there was the first nuclear fusion produced by man. In 2019 we are still trying to develop a sustainable fusion reactor. It makes it feel more realistic to see that transwarp technology cannot be invented over the course of just a few episodes. I always loved the fact that Star Trek was produced by people with a good relationship to logic and science and that they've invited people with good understanding of technology to participate on production. (I miss it alot.)
Then you should watch DSC and the New Picard Series, since real life scientists are involved with those shows and the surrounding tech! And Kurtzman has done a fantastic job of updating Trek to this age :)
3:15 The hull structure (and structural integrity field) reinforcements originally designed to survive transwarp stresses is the reason Excelsior-type hulls remain in service in the TNG era, as such were more than sufficient to handle the vastly greater (but still not _transwarp_ ) TNG-era "standard" warp velocities.
Sorry but you are incorrect, there is NOTHING in canon to suggest that THAT is the reason they're still around in the 24th Century... In fact, Canon says the opposite as the Miranda and Oberth are ALSO still around and have 24th Century Warp...
Very Interesting!! Could you tell me, which episode did Paris (?) was trying to achieve Trans-warp and got mutated.... I Kind-a watch the 'Voyager' series here-and-there, but unfamiliar with that one. Thanks for the post.
Great video, will you be doing a companion one for the Quantum Slipstream drive from Voyager versions of which are seen in 'Hope and Fear', 'Timeless' and 'Course:Oblivion' however the latter is the Deamon planet replica rather than the real Voyager.
Could you also tackle the "Slipstream" drive? That seems to be the final & fastest method of galactic & inter-galactic travel now in the Star Trek universe. Or a video comparing what "Transwarp" was supposed to be, versus what Slipstream enabled the Federation to do, for readily exploring the Milky Way galaxy (quickly returning back to the Delta Quadrant) & inter-galactic travel to other galaxies ?
I don’t know why Voyager’s crew abandoned the Warp 10 project. The only side effect was something the Doctor could fully reverse. So, slap the Warp 10 engine on Voyager, get the ship home, then reverse the salamander thing. It’s not like the Doctor would have transformed and couldn’t do anything. I guess they were just feeling lazy, or Janeway didn’t feel like giving birth to more of her crew’s kids...
Though not canon- mild transwarp speeds can be accomplished in STO, presumably by "skipping over" warp 10, which for some reason is not infinite velocity once you pass it I guess. STO also allows the ability to make use of transwarp conduits, and mild use of Quantum Slipstream drive. It's certainly fun.
While not transwarp, the Quantum slipstream drive I think would have been the more viable option for Starfleet if they could perfect the phase variant issues Voyager in counted during its test of the technology, i mean after the drive was de-commissioned the knowledge and technology was still there, especially after Voyager made it back to Earth so its not unreasonable to assume Starfleet would have studied the technology and found a solution.
Yeah, in the episode of Voyager wherein the crew tested their own transwarp drive, Janeway decided to mothball the entire project after just one less-than-ideal result which is stupid. Instead, they should've made a prolonged series of sequential transwarp jumps staggered by periods during which the engine system would be purged of tachyon buildup. I bet that they would've gotten back in time for Tuvok to get his rocks off before succumbing to chronic blue balls.
@@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898 Dune by Frank Herbert was a Masterpiece ! I was 13 when I first read it; and it totally changed how I saw the world. IT was not only a brilliant work of Sci Fi, but it also talked about the unstoppable force of combining Religion and Politics with its inherent dangers such as creating of their own Messiah along with his Fanatical Followers that conquered the Known Universe. And I loved the plans within plans, the different groups like the Mentats, Bene Gesserits, Face- Dancers, Sardaukars, and the many other different types of Humans that evolved to more than what they were. The sad thing though is that they are coming out with another Dune Movie. I just don't believe that the Dune series can ever be brought onto film; thus far, those that tried have failed Miserably. I think that the only way to bring justice to Dune would be like how HBO brought Game of Thrones onto film. You just can't tell the Dune story in 2, 6, or even 12 hours. It has to be created as an Event spanning a few years. It is just too complex a story to fit a few hours.
Skimmed but didn’t read through all the comments. In your canon explanation, how do you reconcile that Warp 11 was a “thing” in TOS, while in TNG Warp 10 becomes infinite velocity. (See the episode where the Enterprise is taken over by Kelvans.) I had just assumed that Excelsior’s trans warp drive became the standard and TNG warp factors were TOS “trans warp” factors. Or do you have another explanation? Thanks... I rarely indulge my inner geek to this level. Lol
That's simple, it's a different warp scale... Sometime in between TOS (Star Trek 6) and TNG the warp scale was re-written as Starfleet came to understand warp speed better... And no, TNG couldnt be transwarp, as if it was, then no one would be calling Borg Travel Transwarp, as they would already themselves have transwarp. Also velocities of Warp are nowhere near transwarp, as transwarp is 84x or more faster then warp 9.9... Hope this helps!
Lets not forget the slipstream too ^^ As star trek goes on their always a new form of ftl that appears. Whats next hyperspace or jump/warp gate technology?
voy warp 10 was the 'fastest' and surely faster than e.g. borg transwarp or any other means of transport afaik and remember (not involving e.g. the q). even in the initial tng traveller episode, enterprise-d took some actual time to travel the vast distances, but never occupied all space at once. thoughts?
Great video as always. Thank you. It makes me wonder though about the episode, I don't remember what it was called, where the brother and sister science team were trying to and at the sisters death showed that warp was causing harm to sub space and the federation decreased maximum warp usage to 5 unless necessary, which honestly after that episode seemed to go away. I just wonder then about trans warps effects. Kinda like "oh, warp is hurting sub space... Screw it... Let's go faster" heh
The Episode is TNG: Force Of Nature, And it probably doesnt have the same effect as transwarp occurs in a different layer of subspace... And thank you so much :)
OHHHH and remember ships like Voyager, the Enterprise E, The Prometheus etc had a new style of Warp Engine that did not damage subspace at all! YES they can figure that out over night but in 100 years transwarp is STILL impossible! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios ahh. I didn't know that. It would be interesting to know how they figured out what it was that was causing the damage and how they corrected it
Something I never understood: When Voyager attempted to create a transwarp conduit tachyons began to leak into the warp core. This was investigated and determined to be an accident. Knowing this was an accident, couldn't the Voyager crew isolate the cause and stop it from happening again? As far as I know, no further attempts were ever made to pursue this technology until Paris' transwarp flight which was a different form of the technology altogether.
Well in that particular engine system there may not have been a way to prevent it... Also Paris's transwarp flight happened BEFORE the tachyon leak episode!
Something I could see happening. Maybe. Federation ships DO get the warp 10 ability. Or at least some. With the condition that afterwards, all crew get an injection or whatever to prevent mutation.
Einstein's equations indicate that infinite energy would be required to accelerate greater-than-quantum-sized mass to lightspeed. But even with Treknology in play and warp bubbles and subspace, this suggests that you would likewise need infinite energy to feed one's _structural integrity field_ to hold up under the stresses of "infinite speed".
i feel like tranwarp is like the hyperdrive in star wars. the ship goes into warm hole to achieve extreme speed which is not possible in normal space. I wonder what class of ship was able to go faster than warp 10 in tos scale cause the scale to be changed. then you hyperwrap drive which tradition wrap drive able to go faster in than normal warp drive in normal space.
I wonder whatever happened to Janeway's and Parris' amphibian kids, and to think, for a short time she had what she wanted, a family and kids of her own. Lol It would have been really funny if the Doctor had said to her " Oh, you'll be happy to know that I was also able to give your children a human genome as well."
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Like to see you do a show on who you would like to see show up in the new Picard. Meaning old characters from other Trek show and ask the followers of your show. Who they would like to see. The Doctor and 7 of 9.
Actually the next video is on SlipStream and then after that one is the Spore Drives... Im on a Star Trek propulsion Systems kick currently :P As for Colabs... Ive met and spoken with many other Trek UA-camrs. Some I liked and have become friends, others well no comment.. There are huge probs with colabs on other channels, BUT if one approached me with a good idea I would do that... But personally I never go out and seek that type as I am still relatively a new channel and dont want to appear leaching off others... This channel is rising because of my hard work, not who i work with... If that makes sense...
The question I ask is: Did the transwarp experiment REALLY fail? Or did Starfleet just ASSUME it failed after Scotty walked away with a set of ball bearings from the 'transwarp computer drive' ? Scotty: "Here, Doctor. Souvenirs from one surgeon to another. I took them out of her main transwarp computer drive."
No Starfleet didnt assume it failed and we know that for the simple fact that in Trek IV: The Voyage home they charge Scotty with Sabotage of the excelsior... Meaning they knew what he did and would have replaced those missing chips!
The Borg use transwarp corridors to travel at transwarp. Paris traveled at warp 10. It would seem that warp 10, transwarp, and slipstream drives ( from the voyager series are different forms FSL transportation. ) Weird Question, is traveling at warp 10 the same as traveling at transwarp ?
No they are different things... Warp 10 is infinite Warp, meaning you occupy ALL points in the Universe at once, BUT to achieve Infinite Warp a Transwarp Drive is required!
Interestingly, you neglected to mention the TNG episode, The Nth Degree, in which an encounter with an alien signal rewired Lt. Barclay's mind which allowed him to hotwire the Enterprise with his brain and travel at a speed many times exponentially faster than transwarp.
Since this video clearly claims to be based in canon and canon only, it would be really valuable to include on the visuals the citations for every claim. For example, the claim in the audio that the Federation was growing at an exponential rate would be accompanied by text specifying the episode or movie where this stated.
At 250 million times the speed of light, they could certainly be home in time for dinner. But, though not a central part of your great video, what about the effects of time dilation and subspace communication? At those speeds wouldn't people and situations elsewhere be aging at different rates? 🤔
There are no time dilatation as transwarp, like warp, occurs in subspace, as well as fields generated by the ship travelling at those speeds, see VOY Shattered :) And thank you :)
But the Excelsior was unable to break the transwarp barrier because Scotty had disabled the engines not because it didn't work. One can assume that they had indeed made a proper transwarp engine because they would have put it to the test before ever putting it on a ship.
You really think Starfleet after towing the Excelsior back didnt say HEY what happened? And then in thier investigation didnt notice a few chips were missing? Of course they did, and we know that they figured it out since 1 of the charges laid against Kirk and company in ST4 was sabotage of the USS Excelsior... So they knew EXACTLY what happened and so the project failed simply because it didnt work... NOTHING to do with Scotty!
I wonder after the federation finally perfected transwarp speed they will need to raise the bar on the Prime Directive again so to not interfere with warp capable species until they have learned how to go to transwarp. It seems most of the species who had transwarp speeds seems to ignore or look down on others and avoid communication and stay out of their “local” problems.
You know I find it strange we never got a in universe explanation on why Starfleet never tried to fix the transwarp drive in the excelsior and/or never tried it again. You would have thought they would have figured it out by Picards time at least but nope....
Welcome but not appropriate to this video... BUTTTTTT between you and me, since they dont have a working transwarp drive, Starfleet Scientists and Engineers simply we're very good! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Its either that or they lost the transwarp plans, next to the arc of the covenant and that martian war machine, right behind the TARDIS, next to the Jupiter 2, and slightly behind Quarks shuttle.
You'd think they'd halt research into transwarp, what with the galactic speed limit and the whole "warp drive wrecks spacetime" thing...Maybe it's time those spore drive files were declassified!
Warp Drive USED to wreck subspace, keep in mind warp nacelles AFTER it was discovered were redesigned to avoid this problem... Thats where the nacelles on voyager and the Enterprise E came from... Also since Transwarp occurs in a deeper level of subspace it most likely does NOT damage space at all!
ugh Trek takes way too many absurd liberties when it comes to what can and can't be repaired or restored if the human body is damaged or altered in some way. I won't even add a list of examples it would be too long
I personally believe that the reason Tuvok developed the Vulcan equivalent of Alzheimer's out of the blue, with no previous genetic indications, is because of infinitesimal errors introduced to his genetic structure when Tuvix was separated back out into Tuvok + Neelix. Since Neelix was left behind in the Delta Quadrant, we don't got to see if he developed any rare-beyond-belief syndromes in turn. Transporters are precise to a ludicrous sigma level, but they ain't perfect. Janeway didn't "save two people by sacrificing one", she _damned_ one of them (her friend of decades!) to a slow, hellish death.
When did they ever say transwarp failed? . When did they say there was a new warp scale? Wouldn't the new warp scale indicate that transwarp worked? Mr Scott sabotaging the transwarp drive didn't make for a test failure, just a delay
They dont need to say it failed for us to know it failed... If it had succeeded then starships would be travelling at Transwarp rather the warp, and Voyager wouldnt be trying to achieve transwarp... Mr Scotts Sabotage hasw NOTHING to do with Transwarps Failure!
This video is about Transwarp Drives, Specific Propulsion Drives referred to by that name... Those other modes of travel will be part of another video!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I suppose I was thinking about transwarp as any drive capable of surpassing what vanilla, matter/antimatter warp drive could do. All the drives I listed, easily beat Voyager or any other Federation ship's top speed. However, if we assume that Warp 10 is transwarp and transwarp is Warp 10, then not even the Borg have achieved transwarp. In "Threshold," warp 10, infinite velocity, meant occupying all space simultaneously, therefore instantaneously being at your destination with no travel time, yet even the Borg transwarp has travel time. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is there's transwarp and then there's TRANSWARP, or there's faster than warp drive and there's infinite velocity warp 10, and they're not exactly the same thing. Similarly, in "Counterpoint" there was an alien scientist who took offense at all the spatial phenomena colloquially call "wormholes" when many of them were very different from each other. The only episode that complicates this is "Threshold," if it wasn't for the Infinite velocity explanation, every thing you said and everything I added would gel perfectly. That one episode throws a wrench in everything!
Warp 10 is NOT Transwarp, That's infinite warp, BUT Transwarp is required to travel at Infinite Warp! And the BORG HAS achieved transwarp as NUMEROUS episodes have told us!
*Slipstream is effectively the same thing* ???? makes you wonder why starfleet didn’t dump huge resources into trans warp research, especially with voyager transmitting all its data to earth (including extensive scans etc of transwarp coils)
TriAngulum Audio Studios how do you adapt voyagers and the flyers warp systems to the coil without understanding it lol In the new Picard series they should be using slipstream as they do in the books. (I KNOW NOT CANNON) but will be nice for starfleet to have transwarp
Sorry but that isnt true... Transwarp failed for other reasons... How do we know this? Because one of the charges against Kirk and Crew was the sabotage of the Excelsior... So Starfleet knew what Scotty did... And dont you think after they knew they wouldnt simply replace the chips and continue with trails?
3:20 the excelsior transwarp wasn't a transwarp like the borg used (faster than conventional warp speeds). The excelsior transwarp system was a new engine design to jump to high warp instantly, rather than speeding up to high warp, which ships in the 23rd century were still limited by.
Im sorry but you are incorrect... There is nothing in canon to suggest that is true... Actually we KNOW the exact definition of transwarp and it''s not jumping to high warp... Not sure where you bought this idea, but Id ask for a refund! Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Transwarp_drive to better understand what Transwarp is!
I remember the first time I heard about the source of Transwarp Drive it was in Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, which is now considered non-canon, but it explained the Transwarp Drive technology as having its origins in TOS episode, The Tholian Web, where the USS Defiant was trapped in an "interphase" region of space that allowed passage between parallel dimensions. The Enterprise used the the spatial rift to escape the Tholains to a point 2.72 parsecs(9 light years) away. This, of course, is no longer the canonical origin of Transwarp Drive.
Yes and no, Slipstream IS in general terms a kind of transwarp, HOWEVER, this video is about Transwarp Drives, a Specific type of Propulsion System... Quantum SlipStream Drives will be receiving it's OWN video...
Traveling outside our galaxy is an entirely different kettle of fish from whenever Starfleet does develop a transwarp drive. Recall in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" TOS Second Pilot and S1E3, the Enterprise is on a mission to travel outside of our galaxy and runs into the mysterious energy barrier apparently surrounding our galaxy. In attempting to travel through the mysterious barrier the Enterprise is damaged and Gary Mitchell and ship's psychiatrist Dr. Elizabeth Dehner are both knocked unconscious later developing fantastic god-like abilities. From what we see in the episode Gary Mitchell seemed to be capable of anything TNG's well known Q could do, and of course there's plenty of fan theories out there about possible connections. Unfortunately, no STAR TREK series or movie has ever addressed traveling outside our galaxy again. Hopefully, if extra-galactic travel is addressed again the people making the show or movie will remember "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
Except TOS dealt with the Barrier in 2 separate episodes after... By Any Other Name and Is There In truth No beauty, for some reason there was NO ill effects for Traveling through the Barrier... So shield tech may have improved to combat this!
Transwarp conduits sound awfully similar to hyperspace lanes...hmmm. Star gates are awfully similar to wormholes. There appears to be a high degree of sharing of concepts among the various science fiction franchises.
Flunky: "She'll fly apart!"
Capt. Sulu: *"Fly* her apart, then!!"
I applaud your ability to recount the events of Threshold without laughing.
It took a LOT of time and multiple recordings :P
I'm going to pretend this episode was just another Tom Paris holo-deck fantasy, which included getting it on with Janeway, amphibian-style!
My god that was an awful episode.
@@craigtowse4340 It's Voyager in a nutshell.
Let's take an interesting concept, and completely fuck it up.
I wonder what happened to the amphibian children
Maybe the Excelsior had a 'Threshold' moment. We know they had to redo the interior when Sulu took over, maybe because 500 salamanders and their offspring made a bit of a mess.
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transphibian warp drive FTW!
Hahahahah!
And yet TOS enterprise could travel from the outer edge of the galaxy to the center in days not years. Obviously Scotty was a traveler in disguise.
It's amazing what story telling can do :P
Ye canna change the laws of physics, lad! (But _I_ can!)
Through a transporter accident, he ended up traveling through time and space to a galaxy far, far away. He found himself on-board a ship called the Century Vulture or the Millenium Falcon, something like that, anyway she was the fastest ship in fleet. There he discovered the "hyperdrive" an engine many times more powerful and faster than Warp drive and just as fast Transwarp. He then made his way back, installed it on the Enterprise, and there is your explanation.
Yeah, but hyperdrives rely on established routes for speed. Warp is pretty much “pick a direction and go”.
Artem Bentsionov so what your saying is that although warp drive is far slower than hyperdrive, it can be more accurate?
Voyagers Quantum Slipstream was a workable technology - the main issue is that Voyager´s deflector array could do it in a pinch, but not sustainably. Also Voyager itselfd require rebuilding beyond their capacity - hull would need to be modified to withstand it, already mentioned deflector array would require different design, sensor package would need to be done differently to make it safe. Galaxy class with its wide and high profile could not likely do it.
long story short - what Voyager brought is perfectly sufficient to make it work. It just needed a ship that is dedicated to make it work and not just a patchwork solution attempted on Voyager.
Quantum SlipStream Drive will be receiving it's OWN video :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios How it compares transwarp with slipstream in velocity?
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Very good, cant wait to see it, U.S.S. Aventine here we come! :)
@@wolfwilkopter2231 It is already out, episode 19 of Trek facts I believe :)
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Oh i see, thx, did not take a too close look at the dates...^^
Awesome video!! "Transwarp in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1..." One would think during the Dominion War Section 31 would have perfected the transwarp drive in order to give the Federation Alliance a fighting chance rather than poison the Founders. Or use what they could during the wreckage from Borg ships to construct a Federation version of a transwarp coil/drive.
Thank you so much... And yes I feel as though they should have, but apparently not...
I wonder if the dominion experimented with faster than warp technology in order to get its fleets to the alpha quadrant during the war and the blockade of the wormhole.
The problem with salvaging Borg coils is that they had a failsafe. If the cube or sphere was ever disabled or nearly destroyed the coils would self-destruct to prevent salvage.
Art B I always thought there was a weakness to exploit there. Could voyager trick the system into thinking it’s critically damaged
That's not exactly true kawrght... Voyager DID use a transwarp coil and it only stopped working after being burned out traveling 20000 Light Years...
Transwarp sounds like something similar to hyperdrive technology in Star Wars. Both enables travel anywhere within the galaxy in minutes.
"Accelerate to infinite velocity." That episode is just so... Oooh it riles me. Even if we accept that infinity is reachable in a sci-fi 'verse like Star Trek, how do you 'accelerate' towards it? How many times do you need to double your speed until you hit infinity?
LOL yeahhhh.... It was certainly not a "Treks Best" episode :P
I don't know the word for rate of change of rate of change of velocity, but they were probably measuring that and calling it acceleration. Maybe.
A lot...
Rate of change for velocity is called acceleration. Rate of change for acceleration is called jerk. That’s not a joke. Look it up
@@artembentsionov dont forget snap crackle and pop, the 4th 5th and 6th derivatives of position
Meanwhile in Kelvin Timeline....
Perfect transwarp capabilities for all federation ships
That was thanks to the data of the narada gained by the USS Kelvin :D
@@Nichodo yeah
Remember separate timelines
@@Nichodo I doubt a mining ship would have had transwarp
@@godzillakaijuboy Why not? If its a standard normal way of traveling at the time, the of COURSE they would!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Or maybe the Narada has transwarp drive because it was heavily modified with Borg technology. (In BETA canon at least)
Having the ability to travel to any point in the universe (Threshold) the side effect of turning into a giant catfish and seemingly turning back with relative ease would be a small price to pay. Great watch.
Thank you, and yes, that does seem a bit of a plot hole....
I'll just wait in the transporter buffer to be rematerialized upon arrival.
true, anti-catfish hypo-spray is the life jacket for warp 10
I love this video of transwarp. In 1998, i believe, a series of Trek books came out called "The Captain's Table". In the end of one of the books, if I'm not remembering it wrong, a future USS Enterprise was about to use "sidewarp" to began to explore the gulf between galaxies. Hopefully, this was a prelude to the premise that transwarp was mastered or an entirely new direction was taken to reach "sidewarp".
Thank god for inertial dampers, otherwise Janeway's hair would not be able to maintain integrity at warp.
LOL And we couldnt have that!
I think you will find, it's actually her hair spray that holds the ship together at Warp.
And spill her coffees
I like the Wrath of Kahn nod at the end, "When you consider the possibility of being able to cross tens of thousands of light years in a very short amount of time, the benefits of this technology becomes clear." Funny thing is I don't remember having to submit to a retina scan in order to view this summary. ;-)
LOL Your computer or mobile device automatically scans your retina without asking, geez were in the future here :P LOL Thank you so much, most people dont notice the little things like that I do! :)
I wonder if Transwarp is fast enough to cross galaxies in a reasonable amount of time. If it could, Star Trek: Intergalactic could be an interesting show.
Zachary Grigley i agree, but it still took a few years for the borg cube in first contact to reach earth
@@flatmars7072 Im sorry but where did you get the idea it took years for the Borg Cube to reach Earth in First Contact... There is NOTHING in canon that says that! it may have only taken them days for all we know...
TriAngulum First thank you for replying, and second off crap your right i feel like an idiot now. Correct me if im wrong, but
In the episode of tng where q transports them to the wolf 359 cube, its on its way to earth for no apparent reason. A while later w. 359 happens.
What if the first contact cube was sent to respond to 359?
My point is your probably right and all that was my imagination
Although why did it take so long for the first contact cube to arrive? I doubt the borg are lazy, so who knows? *cough* rick berman and ron moore *cough*
Huge credit for being able to recount threshold with out dying of laughter. Love your vids and keep ip the good work
@@flatmars7072 :) LOL No problem :) I try to respond to everyone, but because of sheer volume of replies AND the fact UA-cam doesnt always tell me when theirs a comment sometimes I simply miss some as my first reply is only happening right now... Sorry about THAT Zachary! :) Anyhow, Dark, no problem on adding my 2 cents :P And yes you are correct EXCEPT for the distress call part, they werent able to do it as Picard destroyed the deflector dish! And also thank you about threshold, it took many takes to get THAT narration just right :P
SlipStream or an artificially created wormhole would be much better! as previously stated! :) Stay tuned for videos on both!
I read back in the 80's that transwarp drive was just a set-up for the 'bucket of bolts' gag in which the USS Excelsior grinds to a halt. There's no such thing really as transwarp, it was only ever intended as a movie joke.
ST3 does have the best quote ever in Trek; 'The more you overthink the plumbing, it's easier to stop up the drain' said Scotty to McCoy.
That might have been true back then, but now it's canon and used MANY times since then :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Really?. I've watched lots of Trek and never noticed it. All Good things had silly stuff like 'Warp 14' but no transwarp.
Watch ALL the Voyager BORG episode and you'll see! Guess you gotta watch MORE Trek :P
LOL Besides did you think I just made up all the clips and info in the video? :P LOL
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Aren't transwarp conduits just Borg tech, not UFP?. Strictly speaking, they're a bit like wormholes, not really warp drive which is the manipulation of a subspace displacement field. Or as Geordie once eluded to, like dropping into an already fast-moving river.
To quote Ben Franklin, "I didn't fail a thousand times to develop Transwarp drive, I simply discovered a thousand new ways to not develop it, but I only need one to work."
3:12 I had never noticed that the crew of of the Enterprise had started to patch the ship back up. I wonder where they got that from?
Voyager brought up so many different drive systems. Transwarp, co-axial warp, quantum slipstream, temporal displacement drives, etc. How is TW different than QS, or CW for example. Perhaps Voyagers warp 10 trial may have been do-able with a governor added to stop the speed exceeding, say, warp 9.9999999, thereby preventing the damage done by warp 10.
They need to perfect the spore Drive to keep it from damaging inner microbial space, and boom you got something better transwarp Drive!
Agreed!
And also to figure out how to navigate without a living pilot, since one option involves enslaving a creature and the other violates Federation law against genetic modification.
Transwarp drive: An impulse drive that identifies as a warp drive while still being mechanically an impulse drive.
Threshold's script should have been rewritten and the entire episode re-shot.
Who else thought that Q was behind turning Paris and Janeway into amphibians? I always felt that it was a tidbit that Q would drop at a later date and earn one of those perfect acid glares that Janeway reserved just for him.
Q as a convenient plot device aside, he always seemed to put humans in situations that forced them to grow, so they wouldn't be annihilated later on. If warp 10 had succeeded when it did, not only would the show have ended, but the Borg would have remained too great a threat.
Very well done, stellar
Thank you so much!
In 1935 there was the first nuclear fusion produced by man.
In 2019 we are still trying to develop a sustainable fusion reactor.
It makes it feel more realistic to see that transwarp technology cannot be invented over the course of just a few episodes.
I always loved the fact that Star Trek was produced by people with a good relationship to logic and science and that they've invited people with good understanding of technology to participate on production.
(I miss it alot.)
Then you should watch DSC and the New Picard Series, since real life scientists are involved with those shows and the surrounding tech! And Kurtzman has done a fantastic job of updating Trek to this age :)
3:15 The hull structure (and structural integrity field) reinforcements originally designed to survive transwarp stresses is the reason Excelsior-type hulls remain in service in the TNG era, as such were more than sufficient to handle the vastly greater (but still not _transwarp_ ) TNG-era "standard" warp velocities.
Sorry but you are incorrect, there is NOTHING in canon to suggest that THAT is the reason they're still around in the 24th Century... In fact, Canon says the opposite as the Miranda and Oberth are ALSO still around and have 24th Century Warp...
Very Interesting!! Could you tell me, which episode did Paris (?) was trying to achieve Trans-warp and got mutated.... I Kind-a watch the 'Voyager' series here-and-there, but unfamiliar with that one.
Thanks for the post.
Great video, will you be doing a companion one for the Quantum Slipstream drive from Voyager versions of which are seen in 'Hope and Fear', 'Timeless' and 'Course:Oblivion' however the latter is the Deamon planet replica rather than the real Voyager.
Thank you! :) And yes I will :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Of course what makes those things work is the Talaxian Furfly.
An Integral and Important Component to be sure!
Could you also tackle the "Slipstream" drive? That seems to be the final & fastest method of galactic & inter-galactic travel now in the Star Trek universe. Or a video comparing what "Transwarp" was supposed to be, versus what Slipstream enabled the Federation to do, for readily exploring the Milky Way galaxy (quickly returning back to the Delta Quadrant) & inter-galactic travel to other galaxies ?
Indeed I will it's on my to do list :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I cant give this comment enough likes.
Transwarp technology isn't just a good goal to reach for. It is critical for the survival of a Federation that is growing.
I don’t know why Voyager’s crew abandoned the Warp 10 project. The only side effect was something the Doctor could fully reverse. So, slap the Warp 10 engine on Voyager, get the ship home, then reverse the salamander thing. It’s not like the Doctor would have transformed and couldn’t do anything. I guess they were just feeling lazy, or Janeway didn’t feel like giving birth to more of her crew’s kids...
It certainly is a HUGE plot hole!
Though not canon- mild transwarp speeds can be accomplished in STO, presumably by "skipping over" warp 10, which for some reason is not infinite velocity once you pass it I guess. STO also allows the ability to make use of transwarp conduits, and mild use of Quantum Slipstream drive. It's certainly fun.
Transwarp is still under warp 10... In terms of speed, the lowest transwarp would be about warp 84 old warp scale....
While not transwarp, the Quantum slipstream drive I think would have been the more viable option for Starfleet if they could perfect the phase variant issues Voyager in counted during its test of the technology, i mean after the drive was de-commissioned the knowledge and technology was still there, especially after Voyager made it back to Earth so its not unreasonable to assume Starfleet would have studied the technology and found a solution.
In Star Trek Online, it is a mechanic that is in the game when you want to go faster with your starship.
@@Void-Wandersong Indeed it is, however, NOTHING in STO is canon...
Yeah, in the episode of Voyager wherein the crew tested their own transwarp drive, Janeway decided to mothball the entire project after just one less-than-ideal result which is stupid. Instead, they should've made a prolonged series of sequential transwarp jumps staggered by periods during which the engine system would be purged of tachyon buildup. I bet that they would've gotten back in time for Tuvok to get his rocks off before succumbing to chronic blue balls.
What episode where they tried to recreate the Borg traswarp drive?
How does folding space work?
Ill be covering that in a future video :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Dune is an underrated novel
@@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898 Dune by Frank Herbert was a Masterpiece ! I was 13 when I first read it; and it totally changed how I saw the world. IT was not only a brilliant work of Sci Fi, but it also talked about the unstoppable force of combining Religion and Politics with its inherent dangers such as creating of their own Messiah along with his Fanatical Followers that conquered the Known Universe. And I loved the plans within plans, the different groups like the Mentats, Bene Gesserits, Face-
Dancers, Sardaukars, and the many other different types of Humans that evolved to more than what they were. The sad thing though is that they are coming out with another Dune Movie. I just don't believe that the Dune series can ever be brought onto film; thus far, those that tried have failed Miserably. I think that the only way to bring justice to Dune would be like how HBO brought Game of Thrones onto film. You just can't tell the Dune story in 2, 6, or even 12 hours. It has to be created as an Event spanning a few years. It is just too complex a story to fit a few hours.
Shit I've looked for star trek videos like you do so many times never found your channel. Now UA-cam recommends it when I'm not searching for it.
Well at least you've found it now I guess :)
But was it Paris or Janeway that gave birth to baby salamanders?
Thats a question we may never know the answer too... Thank god!
I'd rather know why the f evolution would make a salamander out of a humanoid
I’d love to see a video someday explaining where Starfleet officers got their latinum to pay for things at businesses on DS9.
LOL Ill add it to the list :)
Awesome! I’m looking forward to it. Only found your channel a few weeks ago, been burning through it.
Well thank you so much for the support :)
I'd also like more information on the creature that has liquid latinum in his stomach. He spends most of his time drinking at quarks?
Maybe Starfleet issues some latinum to officers who requisition it for a good reason
Good Morning, Captain 😁
LOL
Which is faster? Transwarp or Ludicrous speed?
That is a question better left to philosophers and dreamers :P
Another informative video!
Thank you :)
Skimmed but didn’t read through all the comments. In your canon explanation, how do you reconcile that Warp 11 was a “thing” in TOS, while in TNG Warp 10 becomes infinite velocity. (See the episode where the Enterprise is taken over by Kelvans.)
I had just assumed that Excelsior’s trans warp drive became the standard and TNG warp factors were TOS “trans warp” factors.
Or do you have another explanation?
Thanks... I rarely indulge my inner geek to this level. Lol
That's simple, it's a different warp scale... Sometime in between TOS (Star Trek 6) and TNG the warp scale was re-written as Starfleet came to understand warp speed better... And no, TNG couldnt be transwarp, as if it was, then no one would be calling Borg Travel Transwarp, as they would already themselves have transwarp. Also velocities of Warp are nowhere near transwarp, as transwarp is 84x or more faster then warp 9.9... Hope this helps!
Lets not forget the slipstream too ^^ As star trek goes on their always a new form of ftl that appears. Whats next hyperspace or jump/warp gate technology?
God there needs to be a new post-Voyager Trek that showcases Transwarp tech
Guess we will see in the upcoming Star Trek: Picard Series! :)
No mention of the magic mushroom drive?
No since that's NOT a Transwarp Drive, it's the Spore Drive and will receive it's own video!
voy warp 10 was the 'fastest' and surely faster than e.g. borg transwarp or any other means of transport afaik and remember (not involving e.g. the q). even in the initial tng traveller episode, enterprise-d took some actual time to travel the vast distances, but never occupied all space at once. thoughts?
Well the only explanation was that although super fast, it was NOT Infinite Velocity, just really close...
Great video as always. Thank you. It makes me wonder though about the episode, I don't remember what it was called, where the brother and sister science team were trying to and at the sisters death showed that warp was causing harm to sub space and the federation decreased maximum warp usage to 5 unless necessary, which honestly after that episode seemed to go away.
I just wonder then about trans warps effects.
Kinda like "oh, warp is hurting sub space... Screw it... Let's go faster" heh
The Episode is TNG: Force Of Nature, And it probably doesnt have the same effect as transwarp occurs in a different layer of subspace... And thank you so much :)
OHHHH and remember ships like Voyager, the Enterprise E, The Prometheus etc had a new style of Warp Engine that did not damage subspace at all! YES they can figure that out over night but in 100 years transwarp is STILL impossible! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios ahh. I didn't know that. It would be interesting to know how they figured out what it was that was causing the damage and how they corrected it
Maybe we'll get a few throw away lines in the new Picard Series!
They done got it down pat in the kelvin timeline!!!
Subscribed.
Thanks for the support :)
Any time, dude. I'm envious that you're able to make this content. Wish I had the know how.
Awww thank you so much! Though Im sure you have MANY skills I dont have!
Something I never understood: When Voyager attempted to create a transwarp conduit tachyons began to leak into the warp core. This was investigated and determined to be an accident. Knowing this was an accident, couldn't the Voyager crew isolate the cause and stop it from happening again? As far as I know, no further attempts were ever made to pursue this technology until Paris' transwarp flight which was a different form of the technology altogether.
Well in that particular engine system there may not have been a way to prevent it... Also Paris's transwarp flight happened BEFORE the tachyon leak episode!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios you're right it is. Had those backwards.
Something I could see happening. Maybe. Federation ships DO get the warp 10 ability. Or at least some. With the condition that afterwards, all crew get an injection or whatever to prevent mutation.
Einstein's equations indicate that infinite energy would be required to accelerate greater-than-quantum-sized mass to lightspeed. But even with Treknology in play and warp bubbles and subspace, this suggests that you would likewise need infinite energy to feed one's _structural integrity field_ to hold up under the stresses of "infinite speed".
i feel like tranwarp is like the hyperdrive in star wars. the ship goes into warm hole to achieve extreme speed which is not possible in normal space. I wonder what class of ship was able to go faster than warp 10 in tos scale cause the scale to be changed. then you hyperwrap drive which tradition wrap drive able to go faster in than normal warp drive in normal space.
I wonder whatever happened to Janeway's and Parris' amphibian kids, and to think, for a short time she had what she wanted, a family and kids of her own. Lol It would have been really funny if the Doctor had said to her " Oh, you'll be happy to know that I was also able to give your children a human genome as well."
Like your new music for the intro.
Thank you so much :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Like to see you do a show on who you would like to see show up in the new Picard. Meaning old characters from other Trek show and ask the followers of your show. Who they would like to see. The Doctor and 7 of 9.
Ill add it to the list :)
What about quantum slipstream?
The Quantum Slipstream Drive will have it's own video!
While it accomplishes much the same thing as Transwarp, it is nonetheless NOT transwarp.
It’s cannon based so not rifle based then right or phaser based?
2:55 might help if they consolidated their ship structure like halo ships do
Could you do a video explaining the spore drive?(if you haven’t already)
Love your vids.
EDIT: could you collab with Civilization Ex?
Actually the next video is on SlipStream and then after that one is the Spore Drives... Im on a Star Trek propulsion Systems kick currently :P As for Colabs... Ive met and spoken with many other Trek UA-camrs. Some I liked and have become friends, others well no comment.. There are huge probs with colabs on other channels, BUT if one approached me with a good idea I would do that... But personally I never go out and seek that type as I am still relatively a new channel and dont want to appear leaching off others... This channel is rising because of my hard work, not who i work with... If that makes sense...
The question I ask is: Did the transwarp experiment REALLY fail? Or did Starfleet just ASSUME it failed after Scotty walked away with a set of ball bearings from the 'transwarp computer drive' ?
Scotty: "Here, Doctor. Souvenirs from one surgeon to another. I took them out of her main transwarp computer drive."
No Starfleet didnt assume it failed and we know that for the simple fact that in Trek IV: The Voyage home they charge Scotty with Sabotage of the excelsior... Meaning they knew what he did and would have replaced those missing chips!
The Borg use transwarp corridors to travel at transwarp. Paris traveled at warp 10. It would seem that warp 10, transwarp, and slipstream drives ( from the voyager series are different forms FSL transportation. ) Weird Question, is traveling at warp 10 the same as traveling at transwarp ?
No they are different things... Warp 10 is infinite Warp, meaning you occupy ALL points in the Universe at once, BUT to achieve Infinite Warp a Transwarp Drive is required!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Thanks for the clarification!!!!!
No problem :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Your show is awesome, watch it all the time!!!
@@stephenippolito5668 Thank you so much :)
9:01 Transwarp video right there
Interestingly, you neglected to mention the TNG episode, The Nth Degree, in which an encounter with an alien signal rewired Lt. Barclay's mind which allowed him to hotwire the Enterprise with his brain and travel at a speed many times exponentially faster than transwarp.
You just need one of the Travellers. In the books, that includes one Wesley Crusher.
Since this video clearly claims to be based in canon and canon only, it would be really valuable to include on the visuals the citations for every claim. For example, the claim in the audio that the Federation was growing at an exponential rate would be accompanied by text specifying the episode or movie where this stated.
LOL That would just be silly as MOST people dont need the obvious pointed out to them!
At 250 million times the speed of light, they could certainly be home in time for dinner. But, though not a central part of your great video, what about the effects of time dilation and subspace communication? At those speeds wouldn't people and situations elsewhere be aging at different rates? 🤔
There are no time dilatation as transwarp, like warp, occurs in subspace, as well as fields generated by the ship travelling at those speeds, see VOY Shattered :) And thank you :)
Was transwarp Tech in the Next Generation Eps BEST OF BOTH WORLDS ???
But the Excelsior was unable to break the transwarp barrier because Scotty had disabled the engines not because it didn't work. One can assume that they had indeed made a proper transwarp engine because they would have put it to the test before ever putting it on a ship.
You really think Starfleet after towing the Excelsior back didnt say HEY
what happened? And then in thier investigation didnt notice a few
chips were missing? Of course they did, and we know that they figured
it out since 1 of the charges laid against Kirk and company in ST4 was
sabotage of the USS Excelsior... So they knew EXACTLY what happened and
so the project failed simply because it didnt work... NOTHING to do
with Scotty!
I wonder after the federation finally perfected transwarp speed they will need to raise the bar on the Prime Directive again so to not interfere with warp capable species until they have learned how to go to transwarp. It seems most of the species who had transwarp speeds seems to ignore or look down on others and avoid communication and stay out of their “local” problems.
No I doubt that!
What is the difference between Transwarp & Slipstream??
Different forms of travel, you can watch my Slipstream video to get a better idea!
The time card looks like Taco bell's logo
Good vid!
LOL Thanks :)
Well all Federation starships use the three seashells.
How can you consider the novels as non- cannon?!
Because they arent canon! Heres a link so you can better understand canon! memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Canon
You know I find it strange we never got a in universe explanation on why Starfleet never tried to fix the transwarp drive in the excelsior and/or never tried it again. You would have thought they would have figured it out by Picards time at least but nope....
Im sure they must have tried again, but it simply eluded them! :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Hard to say either way, a non cannon explanation is certainly welcome in this case to fill in the blanks and cover the holes.
Welcome but not appropriate to this video... BUTTTTTT between you and me, since they dont have a working transwarp drive, Starfleet Scientists and Engineers simply we're very good! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Its either that or they lost the transwarp plans, next to the arc of the covenant and that martian war machine, right behind the TARDIS, next to the Jupiter 2, and slightly behind Quarks shuttle.
LMAO!
The Borg did assimilate some Voth and their tech. And yet, borg conduits could take any ship anywhere in the galaxy in a matter of minutes.
See, I do not cheat on you lol. Peace and long life my friend 🖖
I dont know... Im still hurt from catching you in the act :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios
Lol, I will try to watch my step. Informative video by the way 🖖
the 2 of you were ogling another man's starship. yeah I saw the comment thread on that video
Et Tu? FrictionRx9? :P
LOL thank you so much Mike :)
You'd think they'd halt research into transwarp, what with the galactic speed limit and the whole "warp drive wrecks spacetime" thing...Maybe it's time those spore drive files were declassified!
Warp Drive USED to wreck subspace, keep in mind warp nacelles AFTER it was discovered were redesigned to avoid this problem... Thats where the nacelles on voyager and the Enterprise E came from... Also since Transwarp occurs in a deeper level of subspace it most likely does NOT damage space at all!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I stand corrected :-)
What about quantum slipstream drive? The improved one that Voyager developed reached 1000 ly/s.
That's in an upcoming episode!
They need MAGNETS! Big, stinking huge MAGNETS!
Transwarp exists in the Kelvin timeline.
Yes
ugh Trek takes way too many absurd liberties when it comes to what can and can't be repaired or restored if the human body is damaged or altered in some way.
I won't even add a list of examples it would be too long
I personally believe that the reason Tuvok developed the Vulcan equivalent of Alzheimer's out of the blue, with no previous genetic indications, is because of infinitesimal errors introduced to his genetic structure when Tuvix was separated back out into Tuvok + Neelix. Since Neelix was left behind in the Delta Quadrant, we don't got to see if he developed any rare-beyond-belief syndromes in turn. Transporters are precise to a ludicrous sigma level, but they ain't perfect. Janeway didn't "save two people by sacrificing one", she _damned_ one of them (her friend of decades!) to a slow, hellish death.
Tom Paris wasn’t trying to achieve Trans Warp. He was going after infinite velocity; WARP 10.
I never said he was trying to achieve transwarp, but transwarp is REQUIRED to achieve Infinite Velocity!
When did they ever say transwarp failed? . When did they say there was a new warp scale? Wouldn't the new warp scale indicate that transwarp worked? Mr Scott sabotaging the transwarp drive didn't make for a test failure, just a delay
They dont need to say it failed for us to know it failed... If it had succeeded then starships would be travelling at Transwarp rather the warp, and Voyager wouldnt be trying to achieve transwarp... Mr Scotts Sabotage hasw NOTHING to do with Transwarps Failure!
they wanted the transwarp probe to either tow OR improve voyager.
Quantum Slipstream? Coaxial Warp Drive? Voyager encountered a bunch of possible transwarp technologies!
This video is about Transwarp Drives, Specific Propulsion Drives referred to by that name... Those other modes of travel will be part of another video!
But is the warp 10 engine really a transwarp device? Transwarp velocity is fast, but not infinite!
Yes it is, as Transwarp is required to reach infinite velocity! Transwarp is the only drive system we know that can achieve that!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I suppose I was thinking about transwarp as any drive capable of surpassing what vanilla, matter/antimatter warp drive could do. All the drives I listed, easily beat Voyager or any other Federation ship's top speed.
However, if we assume that Warp 10 is transwarp and transwarp is Warp 10, then not even the Borg have achieved transwarp. In "Threshold," warp 10, infinite velocity, meant occupying all space simultaneously, therefore instantaneously being at your destination with no travel time, yet even the Borg transwarp has travel time. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is there's transwarp and then there's TRANSWARP, or there's faster than warp drive and there's infinite velocity warp 10, and they're not exactly the same thing. Similarly, in "Counterpoint" there was an alien scientist who took offense at all the spatial phenomena colloquially call "wormholes" when many of them were very different from each other.
The only episode that complicates this is "Threshold," if it wasn't for the Infinite velocity explanation, every thing you said and everything I added would gel perfectly. That one episode throws a wrench in everything!
Warp 10 is NOT Transwarp, That's infinite warp, BUT Transwarp is required to travel at Infinite Warp! And the BORG HAS achieved transwarp as NUMEROUS episodes have told us!
Scotty had something to do with the initial failure of Excelsior's transwarp drive
Sure with the failure of the transwarp drive in ST3, but NOTHING to do with the failure of the Transwarp Project all together!
Tom Paris got 2 crew members prego, the Captain and Torres
He gets around!
Micheal Burnham will discover transwarp all by herself!
Maybe! But I think by 32nd Century Starfleet (If it still exists) will have Discovered it already!
*Slipstream is effectively the same thing* ????
makes you wonder why starfleet didn’t dump huge resources into trans warp research, especially with voyager transmitting all its data to earth (including extensive scans etc of transwarp coils)
Slipstream will be in another video :) And yes, and maybe they did but just couldnt figure it out...
TriAngulum Audio Studios how do you adapt voyagers and the flyers warp systems to the coil without understanding it lol
In the new Picard series they should be using slipstream as they do in the books. (I KNOW NOT CANNON) but will be nice for starfleet to have transwarp
And they MIGHT use it, time will tell :) But yes, Novel, not canon! :)
AND apparently you adapt them quite easily :P
TriAngulum Audio Studios I wonder if your parts can adapt to my coil lol 😂
That is a question that deserves further scientific study to be sure!
Maybe Transwarp was Hyperspace Travel used in Star Wars??
The great barrier of Transwarp overcome by a space worm. smdh
But what really is trans warp?
And dose it have anything to do with transporter's?
Cannon: ah ah ah, I have no idea.
I love how everyone forgets that we would have transwarp if scotty hadnt screwed around with it so the enterprise could escape
Sorry but that isnt true... Transwarp failed for other reasons... How do we know this? Because one of the charges against Kirk and Crew was the sabotage of the Excelsior... So Starfleet knew what Scotty did... And dont you think after they knew they wouldnt simply replace the chips and continue with trails?
3:20 the excelsior transwarp wasn't a transwarp like the borg used (faster than conventional warp speeds). The excelsior transwarp system was a new engine design to jump to high warp instantly, rather than speeding up to high warp, which ships in the 23rd century were still limited by.
Im sorry but you are incorrect... There is nothing in canon to suggest that is true... Actually we KNOW the exact definition of transwarp and it''s not jumping to high warp... Not sure where you bought this idea, but Id ask for a refund! Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Transwarp_drive to better understand what Transwarp is!
I remember the first time I heard about the source of Transwarp Drive it was in Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, which is now considered non-canon, but it explained the Transwarp Drive technology as having its origins in TOS episode, The Tholian Web, where the USS Defiant was trapped in an "interphase" region of space that allowed passage between parallel dimensions. The Enterprise used the the spatial rift to escape the Tholains to a point 2.72 parsecs(9 light years) away. This, of course, is no longer the canonical origin of Transwarp Drive.
Isn’t the slipstream drive a kind of transwarp
Yes and no, Slipstream IS in general terms a kind of transwarp, HOWEVER, this video is about Transwarp Drives, a Specific type of Propulsion System... Quantum SlipStream Drives will be receiving it's OWN video...
Traveling outside our galaxy is an entirely different kettle of fish from whenever Starfleet does develop a transwarp drive. Recall in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" TOS Second Pilot and S1E3, the Enterprise is on a mission to travel outside of our galaxy and runs into the mysterious energy barrier apparently surrounding our galaxy.
In attempting to travel through the mysterious barrier the Enterprise is damaged and Gary Mitchell and ship's psychiatrist Dr. Elizabeth Dehner are both knocked unconscious later developing fantastic god-like abilities. From what we see in the episode Gary Mitchell seemed to be capable of anything TNG's well known Q could do, and of course there's plenty of fan theories out there about possible connections.
Unfortunately, no STAR TREK series or movie has ever addressed traveling outside our galaxy again. Hopefully, if extra-galactic travel is addressed again the people making the show or movie will remember "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
Except TOS dealt with the Barrier in 2 separate episodes after... By Any Other Name and Is There In truth No beauty, for some reason there was NO ill effects for Traveling through the Barrier... So shield tech may have improved to combat this!
I didn't think warp10 was transwarp as it was different to what the Borg did
The video doesnt say infinite Warp is Transwarp... BUT Transwarp is required to achieve Transwarp!
Transwarp conduits sound awfully similar to hyperspace lanes...hmmm. Star gates are awfully similar to wormholes. There appears to be a high degree of sharing of concepts among the various science fiction franchises.
if you need more power to go faster add another warp core