These Gen 3 Joola paddles are absolutely INSANE!! Gen 3 Joola Paddles Review | Rackets & Runners
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Rackets & Runners' Luca Berg shares his thoughts on the brand new Gen 3 Joola Hyperion, Perseus, Scorpeus and Magnus.
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Great prelim review, Luca! Looking forward to your full review and especially your lead tape recommendations!
As a 4.0 player, these paddles are legit SCARY to play against higher level opponents with. The speed and spin is unreal. I'd never played against someone where the serve top spin creates and audible whistling sound, I had only ever heard it from my PB machine which I can control to create huge topspin
No doubt. It’s immediately noticeable. It’s not even close lol
Just wanted to say your video and review was the best👍🏻 not only did you share thoughts about each G3 but also played video.for now I’ll just keep going with my GB Pro power. The paddle has changed my game. I showed me to keep eyes and ears open to change.
😎 good stuff
Thank you very much! Glad you're enjoying your paddle.
Awesome review Luca!
Thank you!
What kind of over grips are you using?
Also, absolutely love my Hyperion. I feel that my paddle would pass a grit test. Had a friend get a gen 2 Scorpius that was way more gritty than my gen 3 Hyperion. My handle was also four and three eighths. The resets and drops have been have been so easy coming from the loco. Huge fan of the paddle. Playing in a tournament tomorrow with it.
They are Yonex Super Grap grips!
Thank you for putting the time to review these paddles! I too prefer the arrow curve top, currently playing the 16mm Volair M1F. You mentioned you preferred the Hyperion, was it 14mm or 16mm? Do you have swing weights for both options?
I don't have the swingweights as our machine still isn't reading correctly for pickleball, but the one I preferred was the 14 this time.
Good review.
Please review the A.Bright and Colin paddles, the 16 and the 14 !!! great review!!!!!! dont be afraid to be tech ical, most who will watch a paddle review wants the tech details, swing weights , twist weights , and on and on.!
For sure, will do!
Would love to hear your take on the Gen 3 Scorpeus, especially since you said in a previous video that you thought the Gen 2 would be your preferred paddle if you played doubles.
Yes, I'll definitely be reviewing them!
Nope, I have the Gen 2 and now the 3 16mm which I played rec doubles with for around 6 hours so far. I did not even bother going back to the 2. I am an intermediate player, if pressed for a rank I have folks saying I am 3.5. I can honestly say after using the gen 3 more I am confident I can get to 4.0. My biggest challenge is my backhand shots. With the 3 now they are so much easier. Another thing very interesting is I don’t hit the ball out long. Not sure why, maybe the new core. I do hit balls out on the sidelines but that is me trying to hit at too sharp an angle. Dinks, drops, lobs, hand battles? Man, it is all there. GET THIS PADDLE. BTW, I play golf and both my driver and putter cost more. And I play pickleball much more so a no brainer as far as cost in comparison. I cannot wait to play even more now. Thanks Joola! Look at Pickleball Will’s video where he lets average Joe players try them. I agree, just jumped right in like others with no learning curve needed.
@@robertcuomo7084 Glad you're enjoying the paddle so much! For the record, I was wondering if Luca would prefer the Scorpeus over the Hyperion in Gen 3, not the Gen 3 over the Gen 2 Scorpeus (which I assume he'd take all day long).
Would love to hear difference between Perseus and Hyperion besides shape. Which one has better control/Pop or is it same?
Luca, did you try adding lead tape to the Hyperion to increase the sweet spot/stability? Given the relatively low/moderate swing weight (115), seems like it could benefit from that (especially since it has such a low twist weight).
Yes, I added a bit in the throat on the Hyperion 14 and really enjoyed it. I'll continue to test it this way.
I’ve tried the 16 in magnus and persius, should I give the 14 a try in all 3 shapes? The demo program I’m
In is kinda wack rn
If you can, definitely. But if you like the 16, don't worry about it.
Do you prefer this to your ronbus r3?
Have you tried putting lead on either the 14 or 16 Perseus? Or have you been playing with it stock?
I put some lead in the throat on both and really liked it on the 14.
Looks like I'm on the same path. Bought the Persaeus 16MM last week and have played 5 times with it. The first 3 times it actually felt underpowered with a high launch angle. Then I apparently reached the break in period and it became a rocket launcher. I removed all the lead tape I had started with. I agree is seems to still do well on drops and dinks but the uncontrollable power has scared me. I was at the point of either switching to a 14MM or a Gen 2, but your video has encouraged me to stick with it. One thing I noticed is it may require switching from a continental to an eastern grip. Have you noticed this?
I would stick to it and try to get used to it. The 16 does have a higher learning curve, for sure, but once you master it I think you will be fine. In terms of the grip, I never change my grip. I wouldn't recommend changing technique to fit the paddle.
@RacketsandRunnersPickleball I added some lead tape to just the handle and it seems to have muted some of the power. Biggest struggle right now is roll volleys from the kitchen. Difficult to get a lot of spin but control the pop. Drives seem to still be a little floaty for me, either my swing path or grip needs to close off a bit more.
For your personal playing, do you plan to use the 14mm or the 16mm?
He did say he normally prefers 16mm paddles but with these he prefers the 14mm versions.
With these, I would go 14.
As a pickleball beginner who came over from collegiate table tennis, the conventional "control" paddles always baffled me, slow =/= control. These paddles sound like they act like tensor rubbers from table tennis (Joola Rhyzer 43 and 48 both have web pages that explain it!), and control in my mind is how widely I can control incoming pace and increased dwell is great for that.
I am hearing that only 1 out of 6 of these are passing tournament inspection. That is a big gamble for anyone dropping $300 on a pickleball paddle.
Any plans to review the Neonic Flow?
I think I know the sound you're talking about. That is normal; it's just when you hit outside the sweet spot. And yes, that would be where to add lead to get a bit more power and even feel.
Curious what the spin is like compared to the ruby
Very high as well.
Where you get those over grips?
They are our demo grips at the store.
Curious how your thoughts on these may or may not have changed with all that's happened around these paddles.
I wouldn't say my thoughts have changed, more like I'm not surprised considering how insane they feel. IMO it's a bummer because I'm all for technological advancements to improve the sport, but I also understand those who don't want this to become tennis/ball bashing. I think it will sort itself out sooner rather than later, kind of like it was with the CRBN paddles two years ago.
So have these paddles surpassed the Ruby as your go to paddle?
The Nova is my go to paddle, and I don't think so quite yet. I still have to get used to this insane power.
That ankle breaker at 9:50 though
Brutal
I actually got to play with one a few days ago. They they make the Gearbox Pro look weak. It sounds like a damn cannon and the balls just get destroyed. I almost think they're going to get banned they're so good.
You describe these paddles producing a kind of trampoline effect (of the sort that tennis racquet strings provide). And, I understand that the power characteristics increases with use. This seems to have gone from a warranty issue last year to a marketing feature this year (see marketing visuals).
On the surface this would seem to make these paddles non-conforming, according to the current 'Equipment Standards Manual'. Section 2.E.6.f specifically prohibits: "Springs or spring-like material, flexible
membranes or any compressible material that creates a trampoline effect."
How have they gotten around this prohibition?
It's a good question and, honestly, I'm not entirely sure, but we have spoken with Joola and they continue to guarantee that they are and will stay legal.
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball I hope there's some teeth in the guarantee they provided that their Gen 3 paddles will stay legal, now that they've been removed from USAP's list of approved paddles.
And, since Joola and USAP seem to be singing out of different hymn books in their respective official statements, the road to resolution may not be a short one.
You realize the gearbox is literally carbon wires filled in with foam right? It has 3x the amount of foam the Joola has..
is the 14mm Hyperion considered Elongated?
Yes, anything 16.5 inches long is considered elongated.
Did i miss something? Why no AB3 and CJ3?
I'll be reviewing them later since they're so different.
I can’t decide between the Hyperion or the Perseus! More of a reset and consistent dink player. Any advice?
Hyperion would be more versatile in shot types. Lower in power but u know power is not rly necessary in Pickleball
Go for the Hyperion. A bit more control and variety!
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball Just ordered! Been a lifetime Selkirk guy but couldn't stop looking at these Joola's! You the man!
my question is where did you get those grips? They look so sick
They do look pretty awesome. They are just teal colored Yonex Super Grap.
The problem is the 16MM grip size is not 4.25, it’s like 4.35-4.4, which is just stupid thick.
Yes, mine seems to be about 4 1/2. Also the weight is out of spec at 8.4 oz.
Not a fan of them. I used the Hyperion 3 16mm for a few hours. Very inconsistent hitting surface...top quarter of the face feels like a rocket (think Gearbox), other 3/4 of the face just feels like your generic gen 2 paddle. The concept seems rushed; they could have waited a few months and pushed out paddles with the entire core suspended, not just the top. Spin and pop are top tier, but definitely not worth $280 given that inconsistency.
Luca you are adorable.
Thank you.
For those who keep saying the paddles are $380...but that's Canadian dollars not usd. Once you convert the amount the prices are actually cheaper than united states price.
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Not trying to be a hater at all but this review doesn’t seem genuine at all no number stats like swing time, actual force or amything
the review is fine he's providing his anecdotal experience which helps certain people understand the paddles more. the stats can be seen on other reviews like john kew's paddle database
This style of review is what I relate to. Yeah numbers are great, but I like how he expresses certain feel and characteristics.
@@frankgonzales8340 I agree man. He describes paddle in a way that I can think about it. Although numbers are great, I prefer this style of review
Foot fault at 8:25 😱 technically even your paddle can’t touch in the kitchen
That’s why I’m so disappointed 😭. That was game point
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball RIP its happened to me too in the exact same way ☠️
Funny you said Ben Johns isnt playing with 2 different paddles. Hes also not playing with the current version they released to the public either which Tyson McGuffin was last weekend. You could tell by the sound hearing them playing against each other and the look its one of the beta versions they tried to make look like what the released but it so obvious its not.
I'm not surprised. I don't see why Ben would want to change his set up so drastically.
I actually hope people dont buy these so the high end paddle price point comes down damn near $400 is way to much ill do $244 max aka my six zero dbd. As much as I love your guys store and recommend it to every one I was happy to see these didnt sell out instantly like the ruby, I hope every store ends up having to sit on these paddles to send Joola a message.
I am a sixzero supporter, have the BD, DBD, and Ruby, but got my Joola last week. I think the reason you saw Rubys go out of stock almost immediately and not the Joolas, had less to do with.size of market demand, and more with production capabilities. Six zero is essentially a mom and pop shop with limited production runs while Joola is a large scale manufacturer that can financially support building up inventory.
@@echochapman7657 Your not wrong I thought of that as well which is also why I’m so hesitant when it comes to the big brands as QC goes out the door on mass production. I thought the Joolas bigger fan base and the hype around them would of been enough for them to fly off the shelves, I fully intended to buy one till I saw the price. Ironically a bunch of the popular paddle testers also posted about the new Vatic paddle rivalling it on the same day RnR got the Joolas so I took it as a sign knowing vatic wants to make high end paddles at an affordable price to just hold out as well as podcast that said wait till after May cause so many paddles are coming out.