Just a heads up - that analysis is not complete as there is tons of information still missing 😉 Unfortunately you only focused on the general information from the aircraft list but not on sub variants which adds a lot of complexity (more variants = more work has been put into modeling and coding = better value for the price tag). Some examples on aircraft I spotted at least on official material and from the preview videos: - The C208b Caravan Ex might be the same base as on MSFS 2020 but now comes in PAX, skydiving and air ambulance versions at least - The A330 comes with different engine variants and sub versions (-300 -200 -P2F and Beluga XL), imho as the Beluga XL is its own position the -200 at least should also have its own place as the fuselage is clearly shortened - H.125 with spraying equipment and as a SAR - The Saab 340b+ comes as PAX and cargo - The B747-8 also now comes as a freighter which also has to have it's own exterior - so the same story as with the Beluga XL - There are some special versions like we saw on the trailer (DA62 with a camera mounted) - Grumman HU16 Albatross vs. the AAI G111T Albatross 2.0 which are essentially two entirely different aircraft with the same hull design but somewhat are mixed on the official list -... Because of that I think there will be even more variants available which cannot be confirmed right now but make sense like: - PC-24 with an air ambulance interior - C408 SkyCourier cargo variant (screenshot only shows the PAX) - C208b cargo variant - Ski/float variants for suitable GA aircraft we already had - Different helicopter variants for H.225, R66 and 407 (VIP/PAX/SAR/air ambulance) -... If you'd break it down to that level the price per aircraft will get even lower, especially in comparison with XP which (to my knowledge) doesn't feature much of a variety in these regards.
That is true but we don't have all the information for every confirmed variant, so you can't really make statistics of things that are not completely confirmed
@@tompsu9536 Yes, I did some calculation and if they keep the complexity on the Twin Otter alone it will be like: PAX and cargo variants on wheels, bush wheels, floats, amphibian and ski equipped undercarriage as well as a skydiving version. On top there might be the DHC-6-400 with a Garmin glass cockpit for all these versions. If I cross out the classic versions of the Twotter which Aerosoft also included on their released version which was taken down as MS acquired it it's still a ton of configurations for this single aircraft.
Having been a Systems Analyst before retirement, I know about anal people, because I was one ... and proud of it. I would say you are off the charts on anal-ness, but I totally appreciate that. So be proud my flight sim friend. And thanks for a wonderfully informative piece of work.
hell yes! Nov 19th can't come soon enough... I'm hoping all the new graphics will run well in VR (how i exclusively fly)... running a 7800x3D, 64GB ram, and RTX 4090... i feel every new sim requires a hardware upgrade no matter how good of a rig you have.
I'll probably get the Aviator edition. I have a few of the famous/locals, but there are about 10 more I would be interested in. I could get them all for $10 each with my premium deluxe discount, which would cost me $100, or get the Aviator which is only $70 more then premium deluxe and I'll get them all. Plus the 707 & Carvelle are still coming out. The Caravelle may not be included, as it isn't pictured, but the 707 is
Hi, nice work. I'm just wondering if anyone knows, considering the aviation edition, whether the local legends I've already purchased will be updated, or will I have to buy them again for them to function properly? Love your vids mate, keep up the great work. Cheers.
@@wanderer2688 Hi. I don't think that I worded that very well. What I meant was, I'm assuming the older planes in the aviation edition will be optimised for the new physics model, but will I have to pay to upgrade current Microsoft/Asobo planes if I don't buy the aviation edition? Probably just a wait and see thing I guess.
I think X plane is dead since Msfs 2020, 2024 will make that process faster. A lot will now comment and say Xplane has a ground breaking Physics model blah blah but the fact is all sims have some model and the difference is so minor that is just not worth it. Just tell yourself a heard fact that no sim can simulate nature and get rid of Xplane.
I am glad, that XP11 and XP12 are still existing .... and i have both installed . Imagine one day an overhyped green activist will publish the figure - how many tons of CO2 the MSFS2020 community worldwide is producing by its high demand on steady data transfer . And the dataflow will increase immensly when MSFS2024 is active ... so keep calm simmers ...enjoy what heve have.
@@themorethemerrier281 Yes, that will anyway be part of the Standard Edition. There is absolutely no point preordering MSFS 24 - you won't even have early access or something. Still people already preordered for unknown reasons but hey, as they wish.
@@xenimaging Yeah .. I guess let's wait till people actually review all the planes, and then we'll see. And it will also depend heavily on upgrade options, which 2020 sadly lacked.
Something that content creators have failed to ask about is the CONTACT POINTS. If Microsoft and Asobo have not sorted out the contact points for multi-wheeled main landing gears, I will not buy.
Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for all the hard work on the spreadsheet.
The worst thing about this video is that it isn't an hour long. Great video!
Just a heads up - that analysis is not complete as there is tons of information still missing 😉 Unfortunately you only focused on the general information from the aircraft list but not on sub variants which adds a lot of complexity (more variants = more work has been put into modeling and coding = better value for the price tag).
Some examples on aircraft I spotted at least on official material and from the preview videos:
- The C208b Caravan Ex might be the same base as on MSFS 2020 but now comes in PAX, skydiving and air ambulance versions at least
- The A330 comes with different engine variants and sub versions (-300 -200 -P2F and Beluga XL), imho as the Beluga XL is its own position the -200 at least should also have its own place as the fuselage is clearly shortened
- H.125 with spraying equipment and as a SAR
- The Saab 340b+ comes as PAX and cargo
- The B747-8 also now comes as a freighter which also has to have it's own exterior - so the same story as with the Beluga XL
- There are some special versions like we saw on the trailer (DA62 with a camera mounted)
- Grumman HU16 Albatross vs. the AAI G111T Albatross 2.0 which are essentially two entirely different aircraft with the same hull design but somewhat are mixed on the official list
-...
Because of that I think there will be even more variants available which cannot be confirmed right now but make sense like:
- PC-24 with an air ambulance interior
- C408 SkyCourier cargo variant (screenshot only shows the PAX)
- C208b cargo variant
- Ski/float variants for suitable GA aircraft we already had
- Different helicopter variants for H.225, R66 and 407 (VIP/PAX/SAR/air ambulance)
-...
If you'd break it down to that level the price per aircraft will get even lower, especially in comparison with XP which (to my knowledge) doesn't feature much of a variety in these regards.
That is true but we don't have all the information for every confirmed variant, so you can't really make statistics of things that are not completely confirmed
@@tompsu9536 Yes, I did some calculation and if they keep the complexity on the Twin Otter alone it will be like: PAX and cargo variants on wheels, bush wheels, floats, amphibian and ski equipped undercarriage as well as a skydiving version. On top there might be the DHC-6-400 with a Garmin glass cockpit for all these versions.
If I cross out the classic versions of the Twotter which Aerosoft also included on their released version which was taken down as MS acquired it it's still a ton of configurations for this single aircraft.
Thanks for the spreadsheet. It is an eye opener and will save some people money! !! !!!
Very interesting!! I fly the Baron (BSK), so I see that I’ll need, at least, the Deluxe 👍
The Bell 47J is piston-engined.
Having been a Systems Analyst before retirement, I know about anal people, because I was one ... and proud of it. I would say you are off the charts on anal-ness, but I totally appreciate that. So be proud my flight sim friend. And thanks for a wonderfully informative piece of work.
Anal people don't change so to say you were one is inaccurate. Once anal, always anal.
People, havent't we learned by now: NEVER PREORDER!
NEVER PREORDER!
(only if you are REALLY interested in the "gift" they sometimes give)
hell yes! Nov 19th can't come soon enough...
I'm hoping all the new graphics will run well in VR (how i exclusively fly)... running a 7800x3D, 64GB ram, and RTX 4090... i feel every new sim requires a hardware upgrade no matter how good of a rig you have.
I'll probably get the Aviator edition. I have a few of the famous/locals, but there are about 10 more I would be interested in. I could get them all for $10 each with my premium deluxe discount, which would cost me $100, or get the Aviator which is only $70 more then premium deluxe and I'll get them all. Plus the 707 & Carvelle are still coming out. The Caravelle may not be included, as it isn't pictured, but the 707 is
Hi, nice work. I'm just wondering if anyone knows, considering the aviation edition, whether the local legends I've already purchased will be updated, or will I have to buy them again for them to function properly? Love your vids mate, keep up the great work. Cheers.
They mentioned owned marketplace items from MSFS 2020 will work in MSFS 2024. So there's no need to buy them again.
@@wanderer2688 Hi. I don't think that I worded that very well. What I meant was, I'm assuming the older planes in the aviation edition will be optimised for the new physics model, but will I have to pay to upgrade current Microsoft/Asobo planes if I don't buy the aviation edition? Probably just a wait and see thing I guess.
@@Keysersausage Oh, fair question then. I don't know about that either.
$200... That is Chris Roberts levels of Tom foolery.
I think X plane is dead since Msfs 2020, 2024 will make that process faster. A lot will now comment and say Xplane has a ground breaking Physics model blah blah but the fact is all sims have some model and the difference is so minor that is just not worth it. Just tell yourself a heard fact that no sim can simulate nature and get rid of Xplane.
I am glad, that XP11 and XP12 are still existing .... and i have both installed .
Imagine one day an overhyped green activist will publish the figure - how many tons of CO2 the MSFS2020 community worldwide is producing by its high demand on steady data transfer . And the dataflow will increase immensly when MSFS2024 is active ...
so keep calm simmers ...enjoy what heve have.
Why preorder ?
The only benefit is that your get the DHC515 when you pre-order
@@xenimagingisn't that a plane that will be used in the missions anyway?
@@themorethemerrier281 Yes, that will anyway be part of the Standard Edition. There is absolutely no point preordering MSFS 24 - you won't even have early access or something.
Still people already preordered for unknown reasons but hey, as they wish.
@@xenimaging Yeah .. I guess let's wait till people actually review all the planes, and then we'll see. And it will also depend heavily on upgrade options, which 2020 sadly lacked.
X-plane been dead for years
terrible audio
I stopped watching his content around 18 months ago due to the audio.
Came back today. Same problem.
See you in 18 months! 😊
Something that content creators have failed to ask about is the CONTACT POINTS. If Microsoft and Asobo have not sorted out the contact points for multi-wheeled main landing gears, I will not buy.