Being Picky With Dan Henry 1964 & Junghans Max Bill. Review.

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  • @logwind
    @logwind 5 років тому +24

    Hi Tim. I think you are a bit hard on Dan Henry here. The beads-of-rice bracelet isn't stretched. It has some natural flex that's necessary to prevent the small links from binding. A Rolex jubilee is the same way, even the new ones on the BLRO. Additionally, I'd say most wear this piece on leather which removes most of the excess polish. Secondly, it's a $250 watch so don't expect much in the way of movement refinement. It's a reliable Seiko VK63 meca-quartz workhorse. I own both the DH 1964 and 1962. I think they're fantastic for the money, highly attractive, and extremely well-sized (which is a rarity today). Enjoyed the video.

    • @eleveneleven572
      @eleveneleven572 4 роки тому

      Yes, it is an attractive watch but the bracelet would have to go. Too blingey and detracts from the watch itself.

    • @chromehearted
      @chromehearted 4 роки тому +1

      Eleven : Eleven the good thing is, buying the Dan Henry from the website comes with a bunch of goodies additional to the watch. The metal strap shown is one of two straps given. The other is decently made leather strap. Also, the entire package comes in a canvas/faux leather portable watch roll that can hold up to three watches.

    • @Hellacop6
      @Hellacop6 4 роки тому +1

      DH watches are totally overhyped IMO, quality control is bad (ever seen the applied luminova on the indexes of this? Ugly) even the chrono second hands doesn’t align properly on lots of models. 👎🏻

    • @logwind
      @logwind 4 роки тому +1

      @@Hellacop6 Lume application on both of mine are fine. Chrono hand alignment is spot on.

    • @challenger516
      @challenger516 Рік тому

      @@Hellacop6 It's a $2xx watch, what do you expect? LOL

  • @KabobHope
    @KabobHope 4 роки тому +2

    If the DH is too shiny, did you think about ordering a different color, say white or black?

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe 5 років тому +21

    The Junghans is a nice piece. During 24 years I had a 34mm handwound Max Bill (sold it) and now I have a 37.7mm Meister Driver with the beige subseconds which I like a lot.
    I have a weak spot for Junghans designs I must admit. Great video!

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      @eugenetitus9370 3 роки тому

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  • @z_actual
    @z_actual Рік тому +1

    Beautiful Junghans. I have in mind my own build perhaps slightly larger diameter, more outboard art deco numerals on a mother-of-pearl dial, and likewise no date function. Big domed and thin but now you have we worried about my choice of the 2824 movement I intended to use.

  • @InTheNow2020
    @InTheNow2020 4 роки тому +5

    Junghans is a fantastic part of Germany's history, going back to 1861. Great value for a company that is approaching nearly 160 years in business.

  • @gentrygarage
    @gentrygarage 5 років тому +15

    Man, this become one of my favorite channel about watches. Thanks for the good content.

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  5 років тому +2

      Thanks for watching, Ted!

    • @nomore515
      @nomore515 5 років тому

      He is the best.

    • @pickupmr.3978
      @pickupmr.3978 4 роки тому

      he got that real, authentic vibe with no ass licking :D pardon my language

  • @KarlAdamsAudio
    @KarlAdamsAudio 4 роки тому +5

    I believe that the 'No Jewels' marking is related to US Customs regulations, where different tariffs were payable for a timepiece depending upon the number of jewels and/or adjustments. There were specific requirements regarding the labelling for country-of-origin and number of jewels and adjustments. I don't know if this still applies, but it certainly explains why a manufacturer would clearly mark a watch movement as having 'no jewels' (seemingly as if they were proud of the fact).

  • @Bonpu
    @Bonpu 3 роки тому +2

    Dan Henry: I do think that they come across as somewhat cheap and pretentious, however the 1970 compressor is so exceptionally clean, functional and true to the original - I would not want to trade it for anything else. I fell in love with the design so much I bought two of the exact same model, so I have a backup.

  • @riccapucho
    @riccapucho 5 років тому +13

    The Max Bill is clearly in better taste, IMHO. Also amazing history, and great design details such as Max Bill’s own font for the numerals, that domed crystal that perfectly reflects the shape of the case, and Max’s signature on the back. I’ve had a Max Bill Chronoscope for years, and a year or two after I bought it I was polishing off the finger prints, and *oh no* a big scratch on the case back. Then looked again and saw that Max’s signature has an underline... sheesh. :-) Never noticed it. Max Bill, a bargain and a design icon.

  • @stass5363
    @stass5363 5 років тому +14

    If the dan henry movement stops working wouldn't it be pretty cheap to just replace the movement?

    • @User_10199
      @User_10199 3 роки тому +1

      Yes you can find a new movement for 35 dollars USD. So you can replace the battery every two-three years for 2 bucks then buy a new movement in 10 ish years give or take

  • @macmac8122
    @macmac8122 5 років тому +6

    The Rolex bracelet vs. Dan Henry was an eye opener. Not easy to find real value for money in the watch world and still have all bases (dial, design, movement, bracelet/strap) covered. Maybe Sinn oder Nomos come close..

  • @Televisiontechnology
    @Televisiontechnology 5 років тому +4

    I bought the DH 1964, but without the date complication and with the black main dial/panda option. Think it looks a little cleaner & clearer with that colour combination. I also had the Max Bill, but in black with white numbers, a beautiful watch, but I felt a little fragile and worried about the plexiglass and sold it. You could argue same of DH but at €/$250 it's such a pretty / dress watch for the money, the detailing you can't fault for the price.

    • @Hellacop6
      @Hellacop6 4 роки тому +1

      Junghans plexiglass can be replaced for 40€ at junghans repair shop.

    • @Televisiontechnology
      @Televisiontechnology 4 роки тому +1

      @@Hellacop6 Useful to know, I do regret selling the Max Bill Chrono, as was such a pretty watch - but knowing my own clumsiness, wouldn't have been very long before I did scratch it - not sure where my nearest Junghans dealer is in rural Spain!

  • @scottparis6355
    @scottparis6355 5 років тому +13

    Oh for goodness sake. If the silver dial is too bright for you, perhaps you should have picked the black one.
    It's hardly surprising that a thousand-dollar, 3 hand, automatic watch is nicer than a $250 quartz chrono. They're aimed at different markets.
    Finally, in the extremely unlikely event that the Seiko quartz movement dies, you don't throw the watch away; you replace the movement for under a hundred dollars.

    • @Chaparty
      @Chaparty 4 роки тому

      You were warned.

  • @Masiman01
    @Masiman01 3 роки тому

    Great Video Tim ! Question: When did bracelet flex in a "rice beads" bracelet become a bad thing? My 20+ year old Oris Pointer date (which i purchases new) came with a lot of flex. It is what makes it so comfortable on the wrist!!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  3 роки тому

      Good question and unfortunately I have to state: I don't know. Ive owned some Jubilees with stretch and feel competent to give advise there, but all my beads of rice bracelets are still ok. But at the end there are metal pins inside getting thinner ...

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 4 роки тому +2

    I picked up a Junghans 34mm 17 jewel handwinding watch in a junk shop. It was not working well so I took it to my watchmender and he sorted out the hairspring and now it runs well. The movement is a calibre 620-50 I understand. The date is from the 1950s and 1960s according to my research.
    Can anyone help with that.

  • @philipsdefreville6138
    @philipsdefreville6138 5 років тому +5

    Tim, have you looked at the vintage Breitling Top Times. They look similar to the Dan Henry. They are more reasonable than Heuers.

  • @Luca-pg5mj
    @Luca-pg5mj 4 роки тому +2

    Is the revision on dan henry a simple battery change or, like mechanics a lubrication of components ???

  • @timschubardt
    @timschubardt 5 років тому +4

    Great video. I personally prefer the Hamilton Intra Matic to the Junghans Max Bill because they have better specs (domed saphire chrystal, date window at 6, eta 2892 istead of 2824, a nice Hamilton buckle) for a lower price.:)

    • @ScreamAger-y2s
      @ScreamAger-y2s 5 років тому +1

      I agree on the 2892, would make the automatic version thinner, but I stay with the old school plexi.

    • @1212matt
      @1212matt 2 роки тому

      I also have a Hamilton intra-matic automatic it's truly a beautiful timepiece can't take my eyes off at however I do like this Max Bill watch very much and would love to own one someday

  • @kesfitzgerald1084
    @kesfitzgerald1084 5 років тому +6

    Hmmm, despite being time poor and with a myriad of distractions, I find myself looking out for your videos around this time of the week. You are obviously doing something right. Another enjoyable session. Cheers.

  • @davidsonviray1403
    @davidsonviray1403 4 роки тому +1

    The dan henry is mecha quartz right so it means that it will stop overtime and replace the battery?

  • @joshbenalcazar12367
    @joshbenalcazar12367 3 роки тому +1

    thank god all I wanted was someone to be fully honest and I could trust them

  • @kamenlitchev
    @kamenlitchev 5 років тому +3

    "No Jewels" is also stamped on E.T.A. cheap quartz movements and basically seems to mean "not serviceable" (repairable).
    As to the Dan Henry - I have a 1947 and opening it, understandably, you see a tiny movement placed in a plastic holder. BUT on the the back of dial of the DH 1947 I can already see some blemishes, as if it is getting rust with the watch being 1 year old exclusively living in my watchbox.

    • @nintendokings
      @nintendokings 3 роки тому

      And a year later? DH is low price and made in China, after all. Not saying that’s a bad thing but it’s not a €500+ watch

  • @sandytoes4222
    @sandytoes4222 4 роки тому

    Hi Tim, at 1:33 you mention the Max Bill Chronoscope, not sure if you meant you have reviewed it in one of your videos? If so please could you provide a link? Thank you and keep up the good work.

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 роки тому +1

      I‘m on the road but you can find it with the search. „Making peace with Junghans“ was the video title.

    • @sandytoes4222
      @sandytoes4222 4 роки тому +1

      @@CasebackWatches Thanks Tim that was an interesting video. The Landeron you were wearing was very interesting too!

  • @saintsmccastle3521
    @saintsmccastle3521 5 років тому +2

    Hello. Both of them are nice watches but for me, Dan Henry one would need some kind of logo instead letters and the car of the back cover is not necessary. I like Dan Henry with no date and panda dial versión. 38 mm perfect size.

  • @davidcoleman2463
    @davidcoleman2463 5 років тому +6

    Why the hell did you show us that strap ? Omg . Lol . Also you are right about the movement . Why put a ETA 2824- 2 if it does not have a date ? ( It is a good movement ). I like the Dan Henery . And it was not much money at all . I really like your videos . You make me laugh . Lol good information also

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws 4 роки тому +1

    As far as the Dan Henry is concerned, I bought a watch of Wish, just out of curiosity to see how bad it would be. I wasn't all that impressed, but it seems better made than that.

  • @crappyluxurypdx
    @crappyluxurypdx 5 років тому +4

    Tim, Very good study of these two watches. Also, would you try to get hold of a Laco Bremerhaven for review. Would really be appreciated.. Thanks!

  • @santiago69
    @santiago69 5 років тому +1

    Do you know if you can damage the movement if you turn the crown at the wrong time when it is position one (ghost date position) for the Junghans?

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  5 років тому +3

      Good question! I thought at that during the video but I don't want to find out that the hard way ;-)

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 5 років тому +1

      Oh wow I didn’t think of that. Hopefully not.

  • @nintendokings
    @nintendokings 3 роки тому +1

    Great reviews! Agree on your downsides too. I find the Junghans overpriced for ~€850. Have you looked at a Stowa Antea?

  • @austingavins9181
    @austingavins9181 5 років тому +1

    Hi Tim, nice video again - would wear the Junghans over the Dan Henry any day tbh.... :) Just on the "No Jewels" on the back of the Meca-Quartz - I think it is supposed to be there.
    A lot of cheaper quartz movements do also have jewels - from changing batteries in our watches, my Tissot with an ETA F06111 has "3 Jewels" stamped on it - and a Georg Jensen with ETA 955 412 has "7 Jewels". I think it tends to be (in my experience) the less expensive Japanese movements I have seen which have "No Jewels" in them.

  • @smedleyhverovhe8919
    @smedleyhverovhe8919 3 роки тому +1

    Tim, wish I had seen this one before ordering a Dan Henry. Agree it looks and feels cheap. Off ti eBay..

  • @olatusijazz8155
    @olatusijazz8155 Рік тому +1

    I owned two Junghans automatic dress wristwatches. It is a well-designed wristwatch. One is gaining minutes and the other one is losing minutes. I wonder when people review this watch, they never talked about how accurate the timekeeping of this watch was. It is the worst watch I have purchased. The timekeeping of both eyes was never accurate. I would not advise anyone to buy such an expensive wristwatch that is not accurate. The hand-wound version might be different in terms of timekeeping and accuracy I don't know because I don't own one. I am using this medium to letting the world know that Junghans is producing a watch that is not fit for purpose.

  • @williammiller8317
    @williammiller8317 5 років тому +4

    I personally don't want to own a watch that the repair cost exceeds the value, it's like putting a thousand dollars into a car that's worth maybe two hundred bucks.

  • @petergplus6667
    @petergplus6667 5 років тому +1

    Glad I picked the Meister Agenda in the same color love it. Eying the chronoscope yet. There won't be a ghost position ;)

  • @eyeheartsushi2212
    @eyeheartsushi2212 5 років тому +2

    Gotta say I love that jacket.

  • @knobexploitmusicelectronic9218
    @knobexploitmusicelectronic9218 5 років тому +1

    I missed a reference to the original Max Bill watches, the better buy imho. Also can you do a feauture on Stowa watchers?

  • @josemateoboza4980
    @josemateoboza4980 5 років тому +5

    Great review! Didn't realize those mecha-quartz movements were so flimsy/unsubstantial. That outro music tho... please, title and artist? :)

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  5 років тому +2

      Thats stock music, Jose, not a real title.

  • @christianmotos
    @christianmotos 4 роки тому

    Where'd you get the mesh bracelet for max bill?

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 роки тому

      Sorry, I don't remember. Was on ebay, unbranded.

  • @twozerouk
    @twozerouk 5 років тому +1

    Agreed on the Dan Henry the facets on the face my 1963 model are very irritating.

  • @augustinf
    @augustinf 5 років тому +2

    The dan henry isn’t sapphire it’s mineral with sapphire coating i think

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  5 років тому +1

      Really? I've read sapphire, but it looks in fact sort of coated.

    • @Hellacop6
      @Hellacop6 4 роки тому

      Yes, it’s just mineral with sapphire coating and blue AR

  • @fedomandez
    @fedomandez 5 років тому

    Wow. Until you get closer the Dan Henry looks good. VK64 is a solid but cheap movement. I have a rare hamilton chronostop with hybrid quartz movement, and it has 16 jewels!!!

  • @ChristianSchoppe
    @ChristianSchoppe 5 років тому +1

    Meine Steinhart Ocean One Bronze ist auch ohne Datum, mit einem ETA 2824-2 und 2 Kronenpositionen, aber diesen Klick gibt es nicht. Die Datumsscheibe wurde anscheinend herausgenommen. Ich frage mich, warum Junghans das mit einer teureren Uhr nicht macht.

    • @mrfuriouser
      @mrfuriouser 5 років тому +5

      Christian- Du bist richtig! (Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut; English jezst) Steinhart heavily modifies the ETA 2824, so it is already deconstructed to a point where removing the datewheel and it's gear(s) is easier for them to do. One would think that there is another crown for the 2824 which doesn't allow for accessing the date function, eliminating the possibility of damaging the movement in the Junghans for very little cost. I just don't know for certain.

  • @FT4Freedom
    @FT4Freedom 3 роки тому

    If I appreciate my $250 watch then when it breaks I pay $150 to fix it. Because it's my watch. Lucky for me it's affordable to fix it. And still my watch. The Dan Henry's are limited. So eventually they become a special item.

  • @songofsam
    @songofsam 5 років тому +1

    The strap on my Meister Driver Handaufzug has a branded clasp.

  • @neilziesing7761
    @neilziesing7761 5 років тому +1

    Well done Tim!

  • @TheScottishoats
    @TheScottishoats 4 роки тому

    Herr Tim has the persona of Colonel Hans Landa (played by actor Christoph Walz) from the 2009 Tarantino movie "Inglorious Bastards". I keep waiting for him to say: "Ooooo, it's a Bingo!"

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 роки тому +2

      Haha, I should watch the movie again, learn the line and put it in a video. :-D Hidden place. In an outtake.

  • @srenjrgensen4512
    @srenjrgensen4512 5 років тому +3

    Both watches are to bright and shiny for bracelets.
    Put a brown or blue strap on

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 5 років тому

    What is your wrist size?

  • @televison1679
    @televison1679 3 роки тому +1

    as John Cleese said: Don't mention the War.

  • @davidcoleman2463
    @davidcoleman2463 5 років тому +4

    I have a Seiko Quartz watch that I had for 25 years and finally it stopped working . It will cost too much to fix it but I can't bring myself to throw it out . Lol.

    • @FT4Freedom
      @FT4Freedom 3 роки тому +1

      Just get it fixed. Who cares about the cost. It was there for you for 25 years.

  • @roybaker6970
    @roybaker6970 5 років тому

    I stopped by the Junghans booth at a watch fair and asked if any of their displayed watches came with a sapphire crystal. NO was the answer I received.

    • @PiotrekSz
      @PiotrekSz 3 роки тому +2

      You can buy Junghans with sapphire glass as option. Nevertheless for me plexi gives you nice reflections by rounded edges, looks nice in vintage watches.

  • @m.p.maxplanation1726
    @m.p.maxplanation1726 5 років тому +1

    Keine Angst, du würdst es nicht schaffen, mir Junghans schlecht zu reden. Aktuell besitze ich nur eine Junghans, die ich mir in Jugendjahren gekauft hab... ca. 1995-8. Es ist ne Quartz, läuft noch immer exakt. Name unbekannt Preis 100 DM oder so....ich werde sie der nächsten Generation vererben 😅 Dan Henry klingt wie ne Bio Limo. Da werde ich nie einsteigen, also kannst du mich nicht rausgraulen.

  • @DocBBR
    @DocBBR 5 років тому

    Max on mesh looks 😎 Nice job! Luv that look! Dan Henry is rip off of vintage to me. I mostly own vintage chronos on beads of rice. So I prefer the real deal over homages!

  • @williamparker2922
    @williamparker2922 5 років тому +1

    No, it's not necessary... I almost sold my max bill upon discovery of the ghost position. For almost $1000usd... I expect better.
    Edit: oh, I almost bought that Dan Henry... Then I found a late sixties BWC that looks almost identical, but has a landeron 248.

  • @louis6720
    @louis6720 5 років тому +2

    wintage!! 😂😂😂

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 4 роки тому +1

    I don't care for the "value added" little car (so immature) on the case back, and Henry should tone down the glare factor too. It's as though someone is chasing a Breamont look and not even getting that quite right.

  • @watchhunter
    @watchhunter 5 років тому +9

    I don't know why, but I absolutely don't like Dan Henry

    • @yeahk241
      @yeahk241 5 років тому

      The one featured here is positively crappy imo, but the diver (1970), military (1939), & pilot (1963) are pretty neat.

    • @steveroberts619
      @steveroberts619 5 років тому +1

      @@yeahk241 I agree. I've had the 1970 diver for almost a year now and it's an outstanding watch.

  • @ScreamAger-y2s
    @ScreamAger-y2s 5 років тому +3

    The Dan Henry looks cheap, get rid of it! The Max Bill is a keeper! Sadly to small for my wrist! Manual wind in 40 mil would be definitely in my collection!

    • @DutchBulldog
      @DutchBulldog 4 роки тому

      Andreas Leusbrock I think there’s also a 38mm version of that watch (I know for sure there’s a 38mm version of the automatic Junghans Max Bill).

  • @niveusgaius
    @niveusgaius 5 років тому

    Watch roll

  •  4 роки тому

    Stop bellyaching about the date click on the Junghans! You Germans are so exact about unnecessary stuff. Relax Mr Christoph Waltz!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 роки тому +3

      Stop confusing Germans and Austrians! You Americans are too relaxed with this stuff, Mr. Mel Gibson.

  • @mauriciotorres5875
    @mauriciotorres5875 4 роки тому +1

    The Jungans is booooring. I have the same Dan Henry veeeeery happy

  • @kingboyous
    @kingboyous 4 роки тому +1

    The Max Bill is a joke. I don't care if they stuff a nice thin movement in it - it has no aesthetic value. The bracelet's also horrifically cheap-looking, a big rectangle w/ no taper. Throw it on leather at minimum - although it's better suited for the trash.
    Thanks for the Gran Torismo - was considering getting one based on photos of it on the Dan Henry website; but in video it looks like a cheap replica of an Autavia: one of my favorite mainstream driver watches.

    • @normanbataille8865
      @normanbataille8865 2 роки тому

      this is not the original Junghans bracelet in the video

  • @69Muscle
    @69Muscle 3 роки тому +2

    I just bought the Junghans Max Bill Automatic. It is the nicest watch I’ve ever own. What a stunning minimalist precision watch. Timeless.

  • @Aarch4ng3l
    @Aarch4ng3l 3 роки тому

    You are a bit hard on Dan Henry watch. It is really awesome every day watch for people who just starting into this hobby, or just want a nice piece that looks higher quality looking watch (This is a 260 USD watch, cheap as hell for what you get) . Date application is unnecessary for this watch, with it to busy i think. My everyday watch and i love it. Looks and feels way expensive than any other watch in this price range.

  • @consumidorbrasileiro222
    @consumidorbrasileiro222 4 роки тому

    what's your wrist size?