Ranking the Mainline Super Mario Games with Nathaniel Bandy

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  • @NathanielBandy
    @NathanielBandy 11 місяців тому +3749

    Always a pleasure chatting with you Scott!

  • @hoenniangod
    @hoenniangod 11 місяців тому +2310

    We’re truly in the Scott’s stash feature length film era

    • @JoshTheWoz
      @JoshTheWoz 11 місяців тому +62

      How the hell did Scott's Snippets get 4 hour long videos before Scott's Stash 😂

    • @LikesWafflez
      @LikesWafflez 11 місяців тому +37

      It's basically pod cast mode at this point and I'm down

    • @JmMateo933
      @JmMateo933 11 місяців тому +2

      True

    • @kirswords8587
      @kirswords8587 11 місяців тому +1

      YUUUHHHH!!!

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 11 місяців тому +4

      Except without the "lol random humor" filler

  • @Mr_Mimestamp
    @Mr_Mimestamp 11 місяців тому +1600

    0:00 Intro
    0:58 New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Switch)
    5:56 _What counts as a Mario Game?_
    6:46 Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (GBA)
    9:27 Super Mario Run (Mobile)
    15:40 Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS (3DS)
    19:58 Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii)
    27:20 New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii)
    32:00 Super Mario 64 DS (DS)
    39:44 New Super Luigi U (Wii U)
    41:34 Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (GB)
    44:12 Super Mario Bros. Deluxe (GBC)
    47:59 Super Mario Advance (GBA)
    49:51 Super Mario All-Stars (SNES)
    51:22 New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
    54:42 Super Mario 3D Land (3DS)
    58:40 New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS)
    1:03:46 New Super Mario Bros. U (Wii U)
    1:05:58 Super Mario 3D All-Stars (Switch)
    1:11:33 Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (NES?)
    1:14:43 Super Mario Bros. 35 (Switch)
    1:17:46 Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (GBA)
    1:19:40 Super Mario 3D World (Wii U), Bowser's Fury (Switch)
    1:25:46 Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
    1:28:02 Super Mario Maker (Wii U), Super Mario Maker 2 (Switch)
    1:32:48 Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (GBA)
    1:34:47 Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (GB)
    1:36:19 Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
    1:40:51 Super Mario 64 (N64)
    1:42:43 Super Mario Bros. 2 / Super Mario USA (NES)
    1:43:30 Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES)
    1:44:36 Super Mario Bros. (NES)
    1:45:39 Super Mario Land (GB)
    1:48:32 Super Mario Sunshine (GameCube)
    1:53:16 Super Mario World (SNES)
    1:57:59 Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (SNES)
    1:59:18 Outro
    *or if you want the games listed in order of release:*
    Super Mario Bros. (NES) [1:44:36]
    Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (NES?) [1:11:33]
    Super Mario Bros. 2 / Super Mario USA (NES) [1:42:43]
    Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) [1:43:30]
    Super Mario Land (GB) [1:45:39]
    Super Mario World (SNES) [1:53:16]
    Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (GB) [1:34:47]
    Super Mario All-Stars (SNES) [49:51]
    Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (GB) [41:34]
    Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (SNES) [1:57:59]
    Super Mario 64 (N64) [1:40:51]
    Super Mario Bros. Deluxe (GBC) [44:12]
    Super Mario Advance (GBA) [47:59]
    Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (GBA) [1:32:48]
    Super Mario Sunshine (GameCube) [1:48:32]
    Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (GBA) [6:46]
    Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (GBA) [1:17:46]
    Super Mario 64 DS (DS) [32:00]
    New Super Mario Bros. (DS) [51:22]
    Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) [1:25:46]
    New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) [27:20]
    Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii) [19:58]
    Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) [54:42]
    New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS) [58:40]
    New Super Mario Bros. U (Wii U) [1:03:46]
    New Super Luigi U (Wii U) [39:44]
    Super Mario 3D World (Wii U), Bowser's Fury (Switch) [1:19:40]
    Super Mario Maker (Wii U), Super Mario Maker 2 (Switch) [1:28:02]
    Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS (3DS) [15:40]
    Super Mario Run (Mobile) [9:27]
    Super Mario Odyssey (Switch) [1:36:19]
    New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Switch) [0:58]
    Super Mario 3D All-Stars (Switch) [1:05:58]
    Super Mario Bros. 35 (Switch) [1:14:43]
    I don’t like begging for likes, but likes mean that more people can see this comment, so please like if you think it deserves it! Have a wonderful day!

    • @SgtPowerWeiner
      @SgtPowerWeiner 11 місяців тому +43

      King 👑

    • @Terminated_Account
      @Terminated_Account 11 місяців тому +36

      the video basically just released.... You deserve the begging lol

    • @Terminated_Account
      @Terminated_Account 11 місяців тому +8

      scott should use this for chapters, hope he sees it

    • @JmMateo933
      @JmMateo933 11 місяців тому +1

      Nice

    • @JmMateo933
      @JmMateo933 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Terminated_AccountTrue

  • @GabeAllz57
    @GabeAllz57 11 місяців тому +652

    This channel is a godsend for random stuff like this. Hearing Scott just kinda talk with people is so interesting in comparison to the half discussion/half character he plays on the main channel

    • @moon4553
      @moon4553 11 місяців тому +26

      Yeah, I love these two styles of video, just thinking the half character, half opinion is my favorite version.

    • @JoshTheWoz
      @JoshTheWoz 11 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, it makes it feel like I have friends 😂

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 11 місяців тому +13

      Agree, I haven't like any of Scott's main videos in a while, the skits have become annoying filler

    • @GabeAllz57
      @GabeAllz57 11 місяців тому +2

      @@moon4553 yeah I do prefer main channel content but this is such a nice alternative

    • @GabeAllz57
      @GabeAllz57 11 місяців тому +6

      @@mariajimenafigueroa233 oh see I’m the opposite, over the past couple years I enjoy his videos more, these are just a nice alternative

  • @barbedbeggar5520
    @barbedbeggar5520 11 місяців тому +592

    It's incredible seeing Scotts Stash go from what was essentially a bloopers channel to a fully edited, soundtracked, and rehearsed channel. It was really interesting seeing it develop this way over time.

    • @Pacmanfan-po9rn
      @Pacmanfan-po9rn 11 місяців тому +43

      I like it more than his main channel at this point

    • @bigmacc4782
      @bigmacc4782 11 місяців тому +15

      Including Scott’s snippets! He sometimes just post funny clips, so funny

    • @jakethreesixty
      @jakethreesixty 11 місяців тому +29

      It's kind of like the main channel is the character of Scott, and the stash is more real and raw lol

  • @ZeldaCDI99
    @ZeldaCDI99 11 місяців тому +1010

    Scott hitting the tier list trend while it's still hot and new 🔥🔥🔥

    • @tveye363
      @tveye363 11 місяців тому +12

      New?

    • @name_here0
      @name_here0 11 місяців тому +19

      @@tveye363about to say this was new like 10 years ago but somehow it’s trending again

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 11 місяців тому +150

      ​@@name_here0he's making a joke

    • @name_here0
      @name_here0 11 місяців тому +6

      @@jesusramirezromo2037 I know but still Scott’s tier lists are still top tier

    • @ryko1478
      @ryko1478 11 місяців тому +13

      ​@@tveye363yeah like new super Mario Bros.

  • @hbmento8102
    @hbmento8102 11 місяців тому +360

    Scott and NB dissecting Mario games is the perfect pregame before a Nintendo Direct adrenaline rush

    • @ThomasCuerden
      @ThomasCuerden 11 місяців тому +13

      I honestly had no idea that the direct was coming out tomorrow until I saw this comment :/

    • @JmMateo933
      @JmMateo933 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ThomasCuerdenSame

    • @user-ri5tp5zi8u
      @user-ri5tp5zi8u 11 місяців тому +3

      Oh my god lol me too

  • @GuyNamedCrystal
    @GuyNamedCrystal 11 місяців тому +208

    Don't know if it's always been there, but I really like the blue Pikmin sticking out of the plant in Scott's office

    • @paulhudalla9527
      @paulhudalla9527 11 місяців тому +14

      How'd I not notice that for the entire 2 hours? 😂

  • @TheSchleg
    @TheSchleg 11 місяців тому +74

    Hey y'all, I come from the future in year 2863. Everyone has stopped using paper calendars when we realized Super Mario Bros. Deluxe outlives all time-planning technology we can develop.

    • @ShonkTeHonktalks
      @ShonkTeHonktalks 11 місяців тому +2

      If you're really from the future, I gotta ask...
      Do we finally get Mario Kart 9?

    • @thatdudewiththeplant
      @thatdudewiththeplant Місяць тому

      Is Waluigi in smash?

  • @Dr.Rockhard
    @Dr.Rockhard 11 місяців тому +365

    Given how wacky Nathaniel’s takes can be, scott might actually be the straight man here. Which is terrifying

    • @betothemexican3711
      @betothemexican3711 11 місяців тому +49

      Scott said Mario Run is B tho lol

    • @twolve
      @twolve 11 місяців тому +25

      ​@@betothemexican3711mario run has always been pretty fun to me, and i think B just means that it's pretty fun, just nothing special

    • @deria1908ify
      @deria1908ify 11 місяців тому +49

      Both of them are insane Love both of them but odyssey at A is abysmal. Easily one of the best Mario games ever created but it is just an opinion.

    • @squiddu
      @squiddu 11 місяців тому +26

      ​​@@deria1908ify"abysmal" is the most exaggerated take I think you could have on that. An A is basically "great", and barely anything reaches that high. How could you actually be that upset they didn't consider it a 10/10
      It's a very very good game but I feel like the post-game does kinda bring it down. There's so many moons that are just like "grind out this challenge for an achievement moon" or "randomly placed around the map, but because of the map you always know where they are so they become fetch quests" by that point

    • @deria1908ify
      @deria1908ify 11 місяців тому +3

      @@squiddu What? I thought I stated that It was an opinion. Ok Let me reclarify, you’re right abysmal is a strong world, it’s just when I played this I felt something that I haven’t felt with a Mario game in years. Idk if it was all the references or what I just thought this was an unanimous S. Sorry it making it seem like I was bashing their opinion. I just recently got into Scott but Nathaniel Bandy and Scott I have the upmost respect for so sorry if I came out as rude. Nathaniel is by far one of my favorite Nintendo creators.

  • @nibot2101
    @nibot2101 11 місяців тому +140

    This is everything I’ve ever wanted

    • @TeeBreak
      @TeeBreak 11 місяців тому

      Lol

    • @mechashadow
      @mechashadow 11 місяців тому

      ...if only Madness returned to Normalboots

    • @DanT12204
      @DanT12204 11 місяців тому

      In one moment...

    • @BigBootMitch
      @BigBootMitch 6 місяців тому

      @@DanT12204would you capture it?

  • @TMNUYN
    @TMNUYN 11 місяців тому +100

    Scott's prime and longevity on youtube needs to be studied his consistently and quality is unmatched 💯

  • @ItsKaizz
    @ItsKaizz 11 місяців тому +63

    Really love these collabs with Nathaniel bandy! I hope we get more videos like this in the future!

  • @withoutthejuice7193
    @withoutthejuice7193 11 місяців тому +101

    The Scott The Wozcast is in full swing and I’m loving it

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat 11 місяців тому +6

      real wozhead hours

  • @iradhill81
    @iradhill81 9 місяців тому +20

    Yoshis island is S Tier. You guys felt it in your heart and it fits. So unique and it hits differently

    • @CrowTRobot
      @CrowTRobot 3 місяці тому +1

      It’s also insanely replayable ❤

  • @MarukoSakamoto
    @MarukoSakamoto 11 місяців тому +87

    Super Mario 3D Land deserves more love, massively underrated game.

  • @Jackie_burnp
    @Jackie_burnp 11 місяців тому +92

    Super Mario Sunshine deserves a full Scott the Woz video treatment imo
    That game is so goddamn interesting, from its weird design choices to plethora of glitches
    Like Scott said, it's the second worst 3D Mario game by process of elimination, but I think it's the single most fascinating one out of the whole bunch

    • @lovelaxo
      @lovelaxo 10 місяців тому +16

      also people talk a lot about 64's fun and creative movement but sunshine has really complex and fun movement to master. sunshine speedruns for example are sooo cool, some of the coolest movement mechanics in any video game to be honest. although it's definitely weird at first

    • @Jackie_burnp
      @Jackie_burnp 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lovelaxo I agree 100%. Sunshine speedrun is the GOAT

    • @sammyttheg412
      @sammyttheg412 9 місяців тому +4

      Personally I like it more than a lot of the "better" ones. It's just so charming.

    • @StudyingManually
      @StudyingManually 8 місяців тому

      ​@@lovelaxo The biggest problem with Sunshine is that FLUDD restricts Mario's movements. It is atrocious that Mario can only move freely in those secret levels because Shadow Mario steals FLUDD

    • @trippy5519
      @trippy5519 7 місяців тому +1

      @@StudyingManually even without fludd its some of the best movement in a mario game. better than 64 and both galaxies

  • @5Detective
    @5Detective 11 місяців тому +58

    I want Sunshine 2. It's got a great vibe and an original movement set.

    • @loaf_bloke_will_eat_ur_soul998
      @loaf_bloke_will_eat_ur_soul998 11 місяців тому +3

      Bowser fury is sort of like that, but as far as a sequel to sunshine I think it could work since they're are other islands aside the dolphin one as seen in the beginning movie and so they could center it around them.

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat 11 місяців тому +7

      I want sunshine two just for another koji kondo latin jazz funkadelic soundtrack lol. Delfino Plaza slaps so god damn hard.

    • @5Detective
      @5Detective 11 місяців тому +3

      I wouldn't even need a sequel. I'd be happy with an expanded and revamped rerelease. Make the game longer, make some of the final challenges better, and give an actual reward for 100% completion, and a New Game+ mode.

    • @5Detective
      @5Detective 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@hurgcatYes! Best Mario soundtrack for me, hands down. I relisten to it frequently.

    • @5Detective
      @5Detective 11 місяців тому +5

      Imagine a Mario Sunshine meets Luigi's Mansion crossover game- with the Bros both wearing their funny backpacks accessories. A pressure washer and a vacuum.

  • @jakfrost574
    @jakfrost574 11 місяців тому +38

    I said this on the Switch collection video, but that bit on Odyssey is very accurate. I absolutely love that game to bits, it’s arguably my favorite game ever, it even catapulted me into becoming an artist, but good lord it’s hard to replay in full sometimes.

    • @quibquiberton4184
      @quibquiberton4184 11 місяців тому +40

      To me, it doesn't take away from the original playthrough. Exploration-based games like Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild are always going to be less interesting to replay, because discovery is essentially one of the primary game mechanics. It's always going to be less interesting on the second playthrough.
      And honestly, why is a second playthrough even necessary, when getting to 100% completion takes so long the first time around? I know I already got my money's worth because I spent over 100 hours in each game, and almost all of that time was fun and engaging.

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +36

      @@quibquiberton4184exactly! Why do people expect a 50 hour game to be just as replayable as a 10 hour game? You’re gonna be more tired with a longer run. And nobody is forcing you to get every single moon. The main campaign is the most interesting part of the game and it’s not that long.

    • @Yohoat
      @Yohoat 11 місяців тому +15

      I don't get the problem, I replay it like twice a year. Just don't get all the moons and do whatever you feel like. I'm not sure what going for full completion once a year is supposed to accomplish.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody 11 місяців тому +3

      @@quibquiberton4184
      That's most likely a controversial hot take, but for me it honestly already significantly overstayed its welcome the first time, and I only played till I completed darker side, not even all moons. And I'm one of those people who have like 1000h in Minecraft and Age of Empires.
      I NEVER had that feeling with either 3D Land or 3D World, and I played those like a decade apart.

    • @quibquiberton4184
      @quibquiberton4184 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Alias_Anybody I think that's fair. Mario Odyssey's style isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. It's an excellent game that only grows on me the more I play it (because of its imo unmatched controls and excellent atmosphere) but it has some superfluous content.
      I think that the point of the game as a year-one title was to showcase the Switch's pick-up-and-play portable nature, which is why many moons are so quick and easy to find. At the same time, having so many moons takes away some of the satisfaction of finding the harder, more interesting moons.

  • @broshi1752
    @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +208

    Odyssey in anything but S tier is crazy to me! That game is so expertly crafted! And for me it gets better every time I play it, which I can’t say about all of the games.

    • @Ar021
      @Ar021 11 місяців тому +42

      I was very surprised it wasn’t S-teir. The only ones that can compare are the Galaxy games

    • @BakerPrime20
      @BakerPrime20 11 місяців тому +9

      na A for me it is a one and done for me

    • @reggiebuttsmash2321
      @reggiebuttsmash2321 11 місяців тому +10

      It’s just not as fun as sunshine unfortunately

    • @egbertmilton4003
      @egbertmilton4003 11 місяців тому +11

      What in the hell did they have against Wario Land. That's one of the best 2d platformers ever, making a unique moveset for Wario, being a much more open experience where other levels have an effect on the rest of the world, and where the money actually matters a lot, with so many new additions that distinguish it from the average Mario platformer. At least have it in B tier, this tier list just baffles me.

    • @BakerPrime20
      @BakerPrime20 11 місяців тому

      @@egbertmilton4003 idk

  • @TheTrueProxy
    @TheTrueProxy 11 місяців тому +106

    This man Nathaniel is like a damn encyclopedia!! He knows so many fun facts about every game

    • @leighdappa
      @leighdappa 11 місяців тому +4

      1:55:40 Nathaniel hasn't played much SM World and didn't know about Baby Yoshi.
      He doesn't know 💩

    • @jescis0
      @jescis0 11 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@leighdappaI actually agree with you! Unless he can 100% it and learn how they originally made it or anything that someone who supposedly is a "Damn Encyclopedia" of Mario games would know! 🙄🙄 After seeing more of the video, about Super Mario World, they forget the mode 7 uses in it! Sure it's not used as much as in Pilotwings and F-Zero, but it actually does have mode 7! 🙄🙄

    • @Yohoat
      @Yohoat 11 місяців тому +23

      ​@jescis0 weird emotionally driven sarcasm defensiveness over something so trivial lol.

    • @jescis0
      @jescis0 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Yohoat yeah probably, but that's what geeks do! 😉😉

    • @Protoman85
      @Protoman85 11 місяців тому +5

      it's called being a nerd hehe

  • @tombus7671
    @tombus7671 11 місяців тому +23

    I love that Scotts defenses for alot of the criticism from Nathaniel is "okay, but its cool"

  • @SmoothTrooper22
    @SmoothTrooper22 11 місяців тому +18

    I think I speak for everyone when I say “we want more like this. Please and thank you.”

  • @kyle857
    @kyle857 11 місяців тому +48

    The lighting Scott has is great. The other guys room looks like he has someone tied up off screen.

    • @cerealbeforemilk3566
      @cerealbeforemilk3566 11 місяців тому +20

      Scott's room looks like a Nintendo direct living room

  • @hessxpress
    @hessxpress 11 місяців тому +24

    I know Nathaniel isn't saying that Mario World's levels are short when Mario 3 has some of the shortest levels in the entire Mario series

    • @devanworkman8745
      @devanworkman8745 8 місяців тому +6

      I don't think he knows what he's talking about, lol. Super Mario Worlds levels are great and are the longest out of the original 2D games.

    • @batmanbud2
      @batmanbud2 7 місяців тому +1

      Bruh moment

  • @cordianims
    @cordianims 11 місяців тому +44

    Loved the vibes in this vid, this was so refreshing and wholesome to watch. Its been pretty rough for me in life lately but theres nothing better than listening to some people talk about Mario. This really helped sooth my mind 😭😭

    • @chrisnguyen2316
      @chrisnguyen2316 11 місяців тому +9

      you doing alright? i hope for your days to become better 😀

  • @royalsoul1125
    @royalsoul1125 6 місяців тому +35

    Mario Odyssey not being S tier is so criminal lol

    • @gio4931
      @gio4931 13 днів тому +1

      Nah bruh. The game is good but it having 999 moons really set this game back in so many ways. Getting a moon means absolutely nothing and many of them were way too easy to get. Again, the game is fun but it’s not perfect

    • @wariogotdeleted
      @wariogotdeleted 12 днів тому

      @@gio4931it completely reinvented the physics of the series’ gameplay. Odyssey’s hat-throw mechanic makes it undeniably one of the most fun games ever made

    • @icessoup
      @icessoup 8 днів тому

      @@wariogotdeleted Wario Land was amazing for its day

    • @wariogotdeleted
      @wariogotdeleted 8 днів тому

      @@icessoup hell yeah. Need more wario platformers

  • @angrybirder9983
    @angrybirder9983 11 місяців тому +17

    Hot take: Mario Maker should be a desktop application. Creating levels in MM1 was OK with the touchscreen, I haven't played MM2, but I can understand that it's complicated without it. Mouse and keyboard would blow the Gamepad touchscreen out of the water when it comes to creating levels.

    • @traviscunningham7062
      @traviscunningham7062 10 місяців тому +2

      I actually agree with you now that I think about it. I would love to make my own levels on a desktop

  • @tetermc
    @tetermc 11 місяців тому +316

    10 minutes in and the awkward "wanting to disagree but ultimately pretending to agree" vibes are already tangible 😅

    • @yololthepikminenjoyer
      @yololthepikminenjoyer 11 місяців тому +84

      @@scrim2518*“The Nintendo fan attempts to socialize with another one of it’s kind, it seems to struggle in doing so.”*

    • @ThomastheDankEngine8900
      @ThomastheDankEngine8900 11 місяців тому +26

      Nintendo fans are extremely slick and charismatic in comparison to Xbox fans lol

    • @ninjdraw8305
      @ninjdraw8305 11 місяців тому +5

      Watchu mean bro they be disagreeing immediately 😫
      I love it

    • @crazyf1r397
      @crazyf1r397 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ThomastheDankEngine8900keep telling yourself that

    • @jeriahrosen101
      @jeriahrosen101 10 місяців тому +18

      Tbf they have to come to an agreement on where to put it on the tier list. So they kinda try to come to an agreement on where it should go based on both their opinions combined.

  • @AlterBridgeJericho
    @AlterBridgeJericho 11 місяців тому +19

    3D World in S, now I really know Scott is cultured

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +11

      Glad people came around on that one. It’s such an amazing game with friends.

    • @AlterBridgeJericho
      @AlterBridgeJericho 11 місяців тому +5

      @@broshi1752 For sure, have very fond memories of beating the whole game with a friend at a sleepover, and drawing miiverse posts that got more and more incomprehensible as the hours went on

    • @batmanbud2
      @batmanbud2 7 місяців тому

      Indeed

  • @Monoceratis
    @Monoceratis 11 місяців тому +18

    Geez, I didn't realize how often Scott blasted through Mario games

  • @MikeTheGamerGuy
    @MikeTheGamerGuy 11 місяців тому +24

    Odyssey is a ton of fun to replay kinda shocked by that criticism.

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +12

      Scott: I refuse to replay Odyssey
      Also Scott: I don’t like that you can’t replay it
      Wonder when he last tried lol. It’s a blast to replay!

    • @Ar021
      @Ar021 11 місяців тому +5

      Odyssey is the best game on the list

  • @Protoman85
    @Protoman85 11 місяців тому +14

    Here's an idea, replay Mario Odyssey without trying to 100% it?

    • @brianmckinley4141
      @brianmckinley4141 11 місяців тому +10

      It was an odd point to put Odyssey in A because "I only wanna play until Bowser and Mushroom Kingdom" but it's like, you basically beat the game at that point. You saw the credits roll. That doesn't sound like bad replayability to me. Odyssey is an easy S for me personally.

    • @phibby8966
      @phibby8966 11 місяців тому +7

      IMO saying mario odyssey isnt S tier because getting max moons is tedious and annoying is like saying botw isnt S tier because getting all 900 korok seeds is tedious and annoying. i dont think its something the game designers really expected you to do more than once, if at all. darker side, the champion's road equivalent, unlocks at 500 moons which is just over half of them. and like, think about that. the thing that's usually the reward for going out of your way to complete every single unlock requirement, like all the green stars in smg2, or getting the top of the flagpole in every level in 3d world, unlocks after collecting only 57% of the total moons in game. to the developers, getting just 500 moons was enough of a requirement. and the game barely even has a 100% reward, so clearly 100% was not something the developers thought every single player needed to do. just like the korok seeds, there's an abundance of them so you can find them everywhere you look, not to force you to hunt down every last one. its still an amazingly executed game and i don't think "having a long but tedious postgame" should be enough to lower it down a whole tier

  • @kirswords8587
    @kirswords8587 11 місяців тому +10

    I was 17 when Mario 64 DS dropped, junior year of HS.
    I remember saving any money I could to buy it, because of what you guys said. The concept of portable Mario 64 at that time was absolutely mind-boggling, and I had to have it.

  • @raffymcdaffy
    @raffymcdaffy 11 місяців тому +49

    There better be Mario's Cement Factory in this since it SHOULD be mainline

    • @bigmacc4782
      @bigmacc4782 11 місяців тому +2

      It’s more closer to game and watch then mario

    • @sidnew2739
      @sidnew2739 8 місяців тому

      Bullshit.

  • @NAFProjects
    @NAFProjects 11 місяців тому +18

    No way Scot Woz got Nathaniel B in on this

  • @markusszelbracikowski956
    @markusszelbracikowski956 11 місяців тому +80

    I have to disagree with Odyssey not being replayable. I agree if you want to go for 100%, but just since moons are your progress currency and there are so many of them, you can select the ones you want and never look back. The vibes on that game are just fantastic, the music, the moves, oh my. Top Mario game of all time for me.

    • @pokemnfan1
      @pokemnfan1 11 місяців тому +13

      I'd agree that it's still a fantastic game, but it kinda ends with a whimper. Do the story, collect the postgame moons, beat the true final level, and either stop there or quit when you get bored of the moons.
      I think we can all agree that the game would be greatly improved if they cut 100 or so of the least fun filler moons.

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +24

      @@pokemnfan1I think that’s just an issue with the mentality about “completing games.” Somebody did a video essay on how you can play games until you feel satisfied. They add a ton of collectibles for the people who just can’t ever get enough. They aren’t anticipating for most people to get every moon. They added an absurd amount so you could skip a lot that you don’t like and still have a great time with it!

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +10

      Big agree mark. I find it super replayable. It’s easily my most replayed 3D game. I like trying to go different routes for the main story and I don’t mind that 100% is a bit more of a grind because the game is just bigger. Of course you’re gonna play Odyssey less than the others because it’s like twice as long as the next longest Mario game. And that also means if you play 100 hours of Odyssey vs 100 hours of any other Mario Game, you’re retreading a lot less of the same content since Odyssey is so much bigger.
      I wish Scott would replay it. It’s so fun to got at over and over again.

    • @landanross2966
      @landanross2966 11 місяців тому +13

      ⁠@@broshi1752odyssey reuses a TON of the same content so you’re really not getting much more fresh and new with odyssey versus a smaller, more tightly focused game. That’s part of the problem with odyssey. I also don’t agree that it’s legitimate to brush off criticism of the hundreds of crappier moons by just arguing you don’t have to get them. It’s content! It’s content that isn’t fun! The game has to be criticized for that!

    • @broshi1752
      @broshi1752 11 місяців тому +1

      @@landanross2966 why don’t people criticize BotW’s Korok seeds? That’s content. Repeated content. That game doesn’t expect you to get all of them. Nor does this game expect you to get every moon. It’s a change in game philosophy, bigger games can have optional content. There’s nothing wrong with it. If people don’t want every moon, nobody’s forcing them to get them all. It’s there for people who like it, like me. I got every single moon just because it was fun!

  • @DarkbloomVis
    @DarkbloomVis 11 місяців тому +13

    I'm really enjoying this collab videos, please keep em up!

  • @owned2easy
    @owned2easy 11 місяців тому +31

    it's crazy how much knowledge both of you have for all of the games. i barely remember the plots and levels for these games, let alone how the controls felt, playable characters, etc.

    • @leighdappa
      @leighdappa 11 місяців тому +5

      1:55:40 Nathaniel hasn't played much SM World and didn't know about Baby Yoshi.
      He doesn't know 💩

    • @gavin645
      @gavin645 11 місяців тому +3

      @@leighdappaWho honestly cares tho

    • @leighdappa
      @leighdappa 11 місяців тому +3

      @@gavin645 YOU do because you replied ☺

    • @TimDespairBear11
      @TimDespairBear11 11 місяців тому +4

      I mean I assume they’ve both massive Mario fans. I’m the same way with other franchises like sonic where I remember every single game in detail.

  • @crobinson2624
    @crobinson2624 11 місяців тому +12

    I think there is a strong argument for New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe for being at least an A tier game. At its core it’s inspired by Super Mario World with a connected map, Yoshis, and secret areas and worlds. It features modern gameplay and presentation with 4 player multiplayer and HD graphics, also included is a wide range of collectible coins, challenges, and essentially a second more difficult quest in Super Luigi U. The game encompasses most of the great qualities of a 2D Mario game. Now is the game the 4th entry in a long line of very similar 2D Mario games? Yes. But it’s the best one yet, and of the 4 entries you only really need to play this one.

    • @TheLoneDrow916
      @TheLoneDrow916 11 місяців тому +7

      For some reason so many people hate this game. I've played it to completion with my family and it's undeniably an excellent mainline Mario game

    • @batmanbud2
      @batmanbud2 7 місяців тому +2

      1 and 2 are still better, but this one is absolutely not far behind.

    • @Daft0Cean968
      @Daft0Cean968 Місяць тому +1

      tbh NSMBU Deluxe is just boring to me. Most other 2d Mario's are insanely replayable to me but it's one of the only ones I would drop before I finish the first few worlds. I actually think it's a decent game and as you said it does most of the basics right, but it might be things like bland level design or maybe it's still the New Super series fatigue. I can't really pinpoint why i find it so boring compared to other Mario's. I still haven't given Luigi U a fair go so that's one that I need to go back to

  • @zacharyolerich7521
    @zacharyolerich7521 11 місяців тому +16

    I replayed odyssey five times at least, it is very fun on replay if you don't try to complete it

    • @DoubleJT1234
      @DoubleJT1234 3 місяці тому +1

      So then you didn't replay through the game then since you didn't beat it? Amazing game to play start to finish every time.

    • @zacharyolerich7521
      @zacharyolerich7521 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@DoubleJT1234I didn't get every moon each playthrough

  • @kwagmeijer26
    @kwagmeijer26 11 місяців тому +14

    I'm gonna stand up a bit for Super Mario 64 DS and say the virtual analogue stick actually worked really well, especially if you had the thumb stylus.

  • @Handshoes-and-horsegrenades
    @Handshoes-and-horsegrenades 5 місяців тому +4

    49:39 Birdo actually says "This is as far as you go". "This is the part where you run away" is a line from Shrek

  • @danielschmaderer
    @danielschmaderer 10 місяців тому +31

    Super Mario World is a definitive S tier for me personally. The map is by far the best I’ve played in any 2D Mario game to date. The secrets are amazing to discover. Also, it’s the first appearance of Magikoopa, Yoshi, and the legendary Star Road. Sure the game has less power ups, but it doesn’t need the extra power ups to make it any better. It’s an absolute masterpiece.

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 10 місяців тому +1

      I think it's a 9/10. Very close but the bosses sucked minus Bowser

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer 9 місяців тому

      @@turboshazed7370 that I can’t disagree. Seeing the koopalings using the wonder abilities would have been really cool. Or just different bosses in general like they did in 3D World. Bowser was fun. Easy, but really fun.

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@danielschmadereri agree. Love wonders final boss haha

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer 9 місяців тому

      @@turboshazed7370 the final boss was probably the most fun I had on a final Mario boss.

    • @user-zm1sm7ho8b
      @user-zm1sm7ho8b 8 місяців тому

      The lack of an inventory and things to do outside of the levels on the map are why I prefer Mario 3. SMW is an incredible game, but it always bothered me that they took away the things that made SMB3 so good. I still put it in S teir though, since both these games are like apples and oranges in terms of quality.

  • @resolutist
    @resolutist 11 місяців тому +6

    Always such a pleasure to see a tier list video where the makers actually know an extensive knowledge about each selection, instead of having a "Never seen; Never Played" category, or "Didn't play/watch much of this one, but I'll say it goes here" comment. From Scott and Nathaniel nonetheless!

  • @catguy5425
    @catguy5425 11 місяців тому +12

    The first new Super Mario Bros isn't the only one with a koopa shell power up. In 3D world, if you crouch while running with a shell, you can ride around inside. So much more fun than the blue shell because you actually have some control over the direction.

  • @thepaperunicorn09
    @thepaperunicorn09 11 місяців тому +4

    Best possible crossover ever , nathaniel being my favorite youtuber and scott being easily in the top 5 , just great!

  • @alyx4436
    @alyx4436 5 місяців тому +3

    Super Mario World was designed in a way so that kids could talk about it for hours in the playground about all the secrets and how to finish it. Alot of people were spurred on to play the game because their peers were talking about it so much. I had a friend that ended up knowing everything and could beat the game in under half hour. Before speedrunning and internet.

  • @ace94d
    @ace94d 9 місяців тому +5

    Brady talking about the difference between SMB3 and SMW momentum mechanics is sooooooo my mood, love how SMB3 handled it by comparison.

  • @Necroggore
    @Necroggore 11 місяців тому +21

    The odyssey takes were horrific 😭

    • @ryanpledger9333
      @ryanpledger9333 7 днів тому

      Nah I reckon they’re pretty spot on. So many unnecessary moons that require no skill. Especially having to buy a heap of em. That just felt lazy and adds unnecessary bloat for full completion. Completing this game isn’t fun and people like to do that with their 3D Mario games. Especially if you’ve played Mario 64 beforehand.

  • @DanisThoughts
    @DanisThoughts 11 місяців тому +12

    Scott making a more "modern" and "standard" youtuber thing (a tier list in this case) always surprises me a little

  • @dylqn55
    @dylqn55 11 місяців тому +4

    1:56:40 If you want to get technical, Across the Spider Verse did show off new gameplay of Spider-Man 2. It wasn't even close to the focus and it was only like 2 seconds, but it was a movie that showed off new gameplay footage of an unreleased game

  • @Beranin
    @Beranin 11 місяців тому +29

    Odyssey not being S is just criminal lol. Rarely was replayability talked about before that point, game is a 10/10
    otherwise great list

  • @The_Scronkle
    @The_Scronkle 11 місяців тому +5

    Video is gonna go so hard once Galaxy 3 is revealed tomorrow

  • @thousandyeargems4360
    @thousandyeargems4360 11 місяців тому +7

    Love these kind of videos, keep it up!

  • @quibquiberton4184
    @quibquiberton4184 11 місяців тому +9

    Mario Advance 2 actually tracks if you collect the dragon coins in levels. Makes going back and collecting all of them a lot more fun and meaningful, which adds a surprising amount of content to the game imo

  • @dylanvo6394
    @dylanvo6394 11 місяців тому +5

    Really nice to see NB a video with Scott the Woz discussing Mario for about 2 hours. Definitely hyping me up for the Nintendo direct tomorrow.

  • @hannahlesann1776
    @hannahlesann1776 11 місяців тому +3

    i knit/crochet a lot and videos like this are perfect to have in the background. pleasant and fun to listen to. love what you do scott and nathaniel also.

  • @joshuaselley2262
    @joshuaselley2262 11 місяців тому +8

    two of my favourite UA-camrs making one video and posting it less than 24 hours before a new direct? Yes please😊

  • @beauavpc
    @beauavpc 10 місяців тому +3

    Scott's work ethic and content delivery is off the charts. I love his dedication to the craft

  • @Alias_Anybody
    @Alias_Anybody 11 місяців тому +8

    Dear Scott: You can actually mod SM64 DS on the 3DS to allow real 360 degree movement with the circle pad, cause it's in the code for the touchscreen anyway.

  • @aname4508
    @aname4508 11 місяців тому +10

    Hot take but nsmbwii has fantastic level design and if it wasnt so boring aesthetically it would be considered on par with world and 3

    • @MantaRaydiated
      @MantaRaydiated 11 місяців тому +4

      Took some of the gimmicks from the previous game and made it better. The whole skeleton lizard rollercoaster ride is 100 times better than any snake block section.

  • @DaemonCorps
    @DaemonCorps 11 місяців тому +6

    As a Mario World on GBA fan: they made SO many slight tweaks to the controls in comparison to the original that significantly improve the quality of life for me. Having the drill jump be a shoulder button is something I'm astonished wasn't in the original. Luigi's skill set and specifically how they affect stuff like coin blocks and Yoshi's actions were such an unnecessary yet appreciated addition. Though yeah... I do agree on the washed out colors. Good video! Also: didn't know how near-definitive Mario Deluxe was, so that was fun to learn about.

    • @timothysmith8341
      @timothysmith8341 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes! I feel the same way! The GBA version also doesn't downgrade you to small Mario right away when you get hit as fire Mario like the first game does. Putting this anywhere below high A is a sin! Also Nathaniel is very ballsy for saying Mario World should not be in S tier. I personally love it more than super Mario Bros 3.

  • @Kiirabu197
    @Kiirabu197 Місяць тому +3

    Scott, you gotta watch jan Misali's “how many Super Mario games are there?” video series. You'll love it.

  • @EternalStar2401
    @EternalStar2401 11 місяців тому +3

    These are absolutely the two people I wanted to watch make a tier list of all the mainline Mario games

  • @Plasmariel
    @Plasmariel 4 місяці тому +3

    31:35
    "I think it's just a little bit better than YOU,
    I think YOU did pretty much everything WE did, just... again"

  • @RayLuvsCats64
    @RayLuvsCats64 11 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoy just listening to people talk about games that I love, these 2 hours felt like 30 minutes!

  • @emceeschwartz
    @emceeschwartz 11 місяців тому +7

    3D Land is the most underrated Mario game. It's almost a perfect game. Especially playing it in 3d on citra emulator on a giant 3d screen. S rank. My favorite modern Mario game

    • @vincentbranciforte9832
      @vincentbranciforte9832 11 місяців тому +3

      Super Mario 3D Land is very underrated its a great mario game I would probably put in in A rank maybe S rank

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 11 місяців тому

      The biggest problem I have with 3D Land is that the game is pathetically easy.

    • @traviscunningham7062
      @traviscunningham7062 10 місяців тому

      3D World is also pretty easy. You probably never played any of the secret levels

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 10 місяців тому

      @traviscunningham7062 Not necessarily. The first halve of the world starts off easy. But once u get to World 3, things do get pretty challenging. It's not the hardest 3D Mario game by any means. But it's still fairly challenging.

  • @SuperSmashCollector
    @SuperSmashCollector 5 місяців тому +3

    Mario wonder… S tier

  • @shadepizza4217
    @shadepizza4217 3 місяці тому +5

    If they invite jan misali the whole time wpuld be spent deciding which games they actually rank

    • @stoic_rose
      @stoic_rose 2 місяці тому +1

      LOL yeah but thatd be awesome

  • @ITSAHARDNUGLIFE
    @ITSAHARDNUGLIFE 11 місяців тому +5

    I will always love Galaxy 2. Any platformers that came before Galaxy 1 and 2, namely Frogger 1 and 2 and maybe Pac Man World was like that extra fun you never knew you needed but glad that you have. So of course I'm still going to want a Galaxy 3 after all this time. Off topic, also want another Zelda game to be more Ocarina/Twilight Princess vibe again. I love DKC Tropical Freeze, but have been playing DKC Returns just as often on both Wii U and 3DS.

  • @Zorgot.
    @Zorgot. 11 місяців тому +7

    tbh i surprisingly didn't hate The Lost Levels that much, I even went through the same game 8 times to unlock the letter worlds. (and no, you can do it while dying and continuing on the same world to unlock it). Tbh, beating it 8 times and getting better at the game each time going through it kind of helped me get through the letter worlds since I was more comfortable with the game by that time. Somehow I enjoyed my overall experience with it

    • @quibquiberton4184
      @quibquiberton4184 11 місяців тому +3

      I think modern gamers forget that these games were meant to be played over and over again. If you try to brute force the secret levels after playing through the normal levels only once, you're going to have a bad time

  • @sahaprocks7751
    @sahaprocks7751 9 місяців тому +15

    Odyssey under 64? What?

    • @vegetarblessb
      @vegetarblessb 2 місяці тому +1

      Less iconic and groundbreaking. Odyssey is awesome, don't get me wrong, but it didn't revolutionize gaming or have the same impact on the world in general. Not a very objective view of its entertainment value I guess, but, works for ranking

    • @dylandelahaie7800
      @dylandelahaie7800 2 місяці тому

      I had less fun with Odyssey than 64 too tbh.

  • @Fahaddex
    @Fahaddex 11 місяців тому +6

    The crossover we didn't know we wanted. But needed

  • @PaulVanced-jl5gk
    @PaulVanced-jl5gk 10 місяців тому +5

    Mario World not being S is ridiculous

  • @Mr_December
    @Mr_December 11 місяців тому +5

    New Super Mario Bros. Wii will always be S tier in my mind solely for the memories attached to the game. Me and my brother played this game all the time and some of my happiest memories are me playing this game with him

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 11 місяців тому +5

    Nice to see Scott chat with the other famed Nathaniel 😁👌

  • @thegambler256
    @thegambler256 7 місяців тому +4

    Putting Odyssey at A is an absolute crime. Why is replay-ability even a factor? It’s an incredible experience through and through. You don’t even have to get all of the repetitive moons to progress through the story.

    • @pepeelghetto1231
      @pepeelghetto1231 7 місяців тому

      It felt meh to me, fun game but that's bout It

  • @pokemonduck
    @pokemonduck 11 місяців тому +2

    Loved this one, thank you Scott :D

  • @iFish12
    @iFish12 11 місяців тому +1

    This video was awesome!! I loved going through all the games with y’all

  • @bloemkoolendestreetgang450
    @bloemkoolendestreetgang450 11 місяців тому +9

    Mario Odyssey was robbed of S tier. Youre talking about it like replaying it means you have to get every moon in the game. So would replaying mario galaxy mean you need to play the game literally twice in a row?

    • @adrian_irl8680
      @adrian_irl8680 11 місяців тому +6

      I would rather play Galaxy twice in a row then to collect all the fricken moons in Odyssey. I think A tier for Odyssey is fair.

  • @quanghuy1242
    @quanghuy1242 7 місяців тому +8

    I know it's just your personal tastes, but Odyssey deserves better, one of the greatest games of all time.

  • @hdociu
    @hdociu 10 місяців тому +1

    Seriously entertaining... I can't believe I just watched two full hours, well done :)

  • @JellyJiggler7
    @JellyJiggler7 11 місяців тому +5

    Oof that odyssey opinion...I think the point y'all made about it being the least fully replayable 3d mario is fair BUT it absolutely has the most replayable main story. The game literally made a ton of people into speedrunners...meanwhile y'all praised bowsers fury for how replayable it is despite the fact that it's missions are super linear

  • @joshch4
    @joshch4 11 місяців тому +7

    You've done World and Odyssey dirty. Odyssey for the way it controls alone is one of my favourite Mario games to replay, speed run, etc. World as well, the control is so excellent and sitting and beating in a day is still as enjoyable as the first time I beat it all those years ago.

  • @Snooty4835
    @Snooty4835 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice to see Scott hanging out with his brother more

  • @superdajoka
    @superdajoka 11 місяців тому +2

    What makes this so funny is that Scott was the villain in Bandy's universe

  • @Greenglower2012
    @Greenglower2012 11 місяців тому +4

    Id like to see more collabs between these guys. In my opinion theyre quite simply the best in the business

  • @travelstar241
    @travelstar241 4 місяці тому +3

    Super Mario World, best Mario game out there. Should be above S there.

  • @fuzzinator9523
    @fuzzinator9523 2 місяці тому +1

    super mario bros 2 being in the same tier as mario odyssey is wild

  • @mehdigeek
    @mehdigeek 11 місяців тому +3

    the Mario Run ranking made me feel like I was an insane person living in an alternate world

  • @BananaPhoPhilly
    @BananaPhoPhilly 7 місяців тому +3

    Super Mario World is objectively the best Mario game

  • @GamerFunOriginallyAarush
    @GamerFunOriginallyAarush 11 місяців тому +4

    What a great collaboration!

  • @sidnew2739
    @sidnew2739 8 місяців тому +1

    "Yoshi's Island" IS a Mario Game, and one of the best.
    I will die on that hill.

  • @michellepatino8733
    @michellepatino8733 11 місяців тому +1

    I love the blue pikmin plush scott has in his plant in the background.

  • @GeladoDias1985
    @GeladoDias1985 11 місяців тому +4

    In NSMBUD,if you want to play with four players,one needs to play has a baby mod

  • @taoday118
    @taoday118 11 місяців тому +4

    I rate Mario Bros U Deluxe S tier because I have a 5-year old and a 7-year. Nabbit and Toadette is a god-send for them, especially for the 5-year old. I don't understand the hate for Nabbit or Toadette. You don't have to play them if you don't like them. But more choices are always welcome. Up to 4 in the family can play together as well. Not all mario games had such cool co-op feature

    • @Booksds
      @Booksds 4 місяці тому +1

      I’m fine that they exist, but a problem is that if you’re playing with 4 people then _someone_ has to play as Nabbit or Toadette, there’s no option to have all 4 players use a non-easy character.

  • @Smellman64
    @Smellman64 11 місяців тому +2

    I love the pikmin in Scott’s fake plant

  • @chain12bb
    @chain12bb 11 місяців тому +2

    Scott being ashamed of being nostalgic for 2011 meanwhile im out here being nostalgic for the switch launch

  • @darthgamer9861
    @darthgamer9861 11 місяців тому +4

    to the point on Oddysee, where is it written where you HAVE to 100 percent it? I would argue sunshine, one of my favorite games, is also hampered by the damned blue coins.