3DRap Logitech G29 Shifter Mods
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- Two mods for you G29 shifter, that actually make an improvement.
Intro: 0:00
Closer look: 0:45
Installation: 12:53
Mounting: 36:45
Driving: 38:03
Final Thoughts: 41:42
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Thank you racing sim Bob Ross
That's pretty accurate.
instablaster
Clearly this man has excellent taste in race tracks.
That force feedback looks absolutely insane...
man, it looks like he's gonna get thrown off his rig.
I really appreciate your videos and how you even mention the size of the wrenches used. It is very helpful. Keep posting!
After finding a bunch of different mods on eBay, I came here for some honest advice. I saw the 3Drap solution as the 'premium' model so after this review I bought it. It's been installed for two weeks. Everything in the video is bang on the money.
However...
The durability issue is real. Not because it wears down though: It is so tight on the shifter shaft that mine snapped after about 8 hours of play. But it wasn't the first thing to break. It took less than an hour for the thin piece of material partitioning 1st and 3rd gear to snap off. I've just lost the opposite piece between 2nd and 4th. This gives my shifter more of an OI look rather than HH. There is still some clamping force from the snapped part (more so in 1st, 3rd and 6th as the snapped occurred at the other end) and it's definitely still an improved feel. But it is not the golden solution sadly.
3D-printed stuff is everywhere now but I am finding, consistently, that either the material oo the fabrication process often results in low tensile strength. I bought a 3D-printed mount for the shifter, for example, that showed signs of stress almost immediately and is likely to snap within the next couple of days.
So, great design but it needs to be fabricated with something either more flexible or more durable.
Update: I went and uploaded a video highlighting everything I mentioned above. 3Drap reached out and replaced my broken parts with their new version: a nylon clamp and metal top plate. At their request, I reviewed them after putting them through their paces... and they've fixed it! They're the golden solution again.
It's the 3d printing process. They are pumping out parts and want to do so quickly. It looks like they are printed at the lowest quality. Find one that's made of ABS and not PLA
@@mazda3mike I know I'm late to the party, but I was thinking the same thing. PLA is not the material I would have chosen to make that gate out of. I would have done it at least in PETG, if not some form of Nylon like a Taulman Alloy 910 or something. However, I have seen recently a mod that uses magnets instead of something sliding on rods, and that's probably the best solution.
Im more impressed with that amazing voice dude
What an amazing set up! This looks like a good mod!
I’m impressed with your driving!
Thank for this excellent review. It really answered my questions about these mods 👍 I love that you take your time and doesn't through loud music on top of everything. And... subscribed, of course 😊Per (Denmark)
I just bought these mods, they look great. cant wait to check them out , thanks for the review !!!
This actually looks pretty cool. I've been afraid to do any mods like this but this video really helps a ton. Pretty soon I'm going through storage and if I find my old Mazda shift knob it would be nice to use that as well.
Love that ball piece,dual function,to hold my shifter and also to put more emphasis on the bird.
I use my shifter combined with a truck knob (splitter, range) for ETS and ATS and printed a piece like that. Works great!
btw. i am a big fan of ur channel.
Just bought this mod, recently installed the Extreme racing shift knob and already feels way better so can't wait for this combo
So how did it turn out? Did it meet your expectations?
I'm considering this combo... would like to hear real world experience before buying it.
Deniz Demirel Sorry for late response I never look at my youtube inbox, the mod really gave it a whole new feel and makes the game more enjoyable, unfortunately the shift knob gives you more leverage obviously and makes it feels just about the same as if it had no mod, yes its still cool but I like playing with the stock shift knob for the extra resistance.
Awesome. We have It with the metal plate on Top. A must have mod!
i have this shiftier and its great
A year later. How is it still? Did it brake or wear down?
Thx, nice mod!
This looks like a really interesting mod. I usually end up using the sequential shifters on my G27, because the H-pattern shifter feels so vague. I've been looking for potential mods to improve my G27, both in terms of pedals and the shifter, and this looks like a really good option. Thanks for the great review :)
O mito dos games
Thx you for this video
Dude you slam those gears like 70’s Mack truck.
Hi Barry. I have discovered your videos recently as i am looking at going down the sim lab and direct drive path. Was wondering if you could do a video on what runs your amazing set up. And how everything is plugged into where. Cheers and look forward to more great content from your channel.
3Drap is the best! Giving us what the manufacturers should've ➕ for a cheaper price
$30 for small piece of plastic? thats a good deal to you?
@@d3tach3d I think he got paid to leave that comment
@@d3tach3d The problem is the durabilty, i wouldn't mind paying that amount even thought it cost half of the clutch, if it lasted, but it doesn't last long and by the way, don't forget the cost of deliver...
If I could get it shipped to my place for a decent price I'd be all over it. But it's not cheap to have shipped to Canada and shouldn't be hard to make in a 3dprinter program. They're probably on thingiverse actually
@@tylervardy3917 my 3D*c*rap shifter broke after only 1 week. The inner piece that is considered a wear item, broke after 7 days, and the top shifter plate cracked after 2 months.
I'm from Canada, 3Drap offered to ship me two of those inner pieces to guide the shift selector, but shipping was $20 Canadian. I'll pass. The top plate I still haven't contacted them about, but the overall quality is extremely poor.
I just ordered a 3dRap hand control gas/brake. I hope it works great!
3:53 😂 the finger
May all your accidents be happy ones my little squirrel friends
hey berry . i have the same shifter. i kept all the good but i did change the shifter head to a weighted car shifter head. feels great while in vr racing.
The only problem with that is it makes the shifter's spring feel lighter now since you have a weight to help you push it... kinda makes the shifter feel like more of a toy tbh
Damn is going to be a fun but expensive hobby
Those mods he showed are nothing compared to a freaking $1500 wheel *base* from Fanatec
Thanks for the video.. I have been considering 3DRap shifter mods for a long time, but didn't really know how worth while it would be.
I own the THPA Shifter I got an old golf club (as the shaft steps down size you can fit it snugly over the top of TM rod )then put a sparco quick shift knob on top ....also mark on shaft where the hole is on the original shaft and but a small bolt through to hold in place ..it looks and feels bloody great.......its not as slap dash as it sounds 👍...
After finding the whole G920 with Wheel, Pedals, and the shifter and a Mounting System for it at an estate sale for 55 bucks, I think 40ish in mods is reasonable, imma have to check it out.
Thats insane
you actually got a working G29 for 55$????
@@alouisschafer7212 Yeah, the Xbox one, with the shifter and a pedal/wheel/shifter fold away stand/mount. Gotta love those estate sales.
@Bilbo Fappins they had a thrust master too.... I done fucked up by not getting that one.
@@randipoling635 thrustmaster has an even worse reputation for reliability than Logitech does on their entry level stuff. The G29 is fine. It’s nothing earth shattering but I’ve never had a problem with mine once.
Great Breakdown SRG!! I’m just getting into the SimRacing genre and still looking for products to purchase to help make my transition easier. This is by far the best tutorial/install that I’ve came across. I have one question, do you know where I can purchase an E-Brake for the (PS5) G29. I’m having the toughest time finding one. Thanks again for all the information, by chapters in this video! Take Care!
I have the same shifter and I don't know how many times shifting hard and ripped my shifter off the desk...lol. all I did to fix it was drilled a small whole thru that last post and put along screw thru it poking thru about 1/4" to 3/8" to stab my desk...works amazing and cost me 5 cents.
Always love your intro with that car sound could you please tell me the name of that car in your intro, hey the original clamps work fine for me as long as i use the m6 bolts, nice shifter mod, i think i prefer sequential.
about final thoughts - a way of solution for consoles is modding those plastic 'gears' which moving potenciometer. Not removing curve but let you to utilize whole pedal way down at least.
Very informative video. Your videos are awesome explaining things in great detail. Do you know if it's possible to change the shift knob to a t handle shifter like a hurst or maybe even a pistol grip? Is it possible what would be involved? Thanks
It is possible. There's a few different ways to go about it, however, if you're looking to run a "standard" (real life) size knob I'd suggest a solution like the link below. You can specify what thread size you need for the adapter to fit your specific application.
www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-Shifter-Knob-Adapter-G25-G27-G29-G920-/263627486116?redirect=mobile
Setup show!
Your setup is incredible. What wheel base are you using?
Thanks for a great review. Would you, as an expert, prefer a longer stick with the mod in place?
I always figured a slightly longer shifter would feel better/more realistic but I'm not sure
That's what she said
depends on what ur used too. my last car had the shifter mounted on the dash next to the wheel rather than between the seats and it was like the g29 in looks and i noticed it was easier to use for me than the longer shifter in my other cars.
Ive modded my wheel rig set to put the shifter next to the wheel rather than low down where it was before.
Means less distance for ur hands to move so u can get ur hands to and from the shifter and wheel faster.
Mine broke after a few weeks and there is no guarantee because of „experimental product“. So I would not buy it again
For over $100! You can get an SSH shifter just under that, I wonder of this is comparable to the SSH. I'll be getting my 3DRap mod soon to review as well :)
TechiePocket1 what’s ssh shifter
@@seanmorissette5765 I meant to say SHH. I've got to try the 3DRap and I now own the SHH shifter and let me say: The SHH shifter is LIGHT YEARS better in feeling and quality. For $150 the SHH is definitely a better choice.
On shifter insert mod segment: "And now we're going to speed it up..." (speeds up to actual working pace)
Thanks, Im going to buy the improved feel kit after your review. Ive only had my G29 for a week and im already looking for ways to upgrade it. I can see this getting expensive :D
Excellent video! Can y plz tell us few words about the durability of this mod after so much time?
Hi Barry. I got the improved feel mod today and followed your excellent video to install it. However I find it's now way too stiff and the gear stick gets stuck in gears - I have to use all my force to get it back into neutral. I notice in your video driving at the end that you use a lot of force to move between gears. Is this how you normally drive or is this to counter the getting stuck in gears that I have found? I can't apply this much force on my rig because it's tpo noisy: my wife came running upstairs to find what the racket coming from our bedroom was! I also feel it's pretty unrealistic: I don't drive myself (yet) but I've never seen drivers using so much force to change gears. Any thoughts? Cheers.
With my shifter it is not that hard to change gears. Not sure what could be causing this. I would disassemble the mod. Try it without the mod. Then re-install the mod.
Thanks Barry. It definitely doesn't feel right. I'll disassemble but will need to find the correct sized allen key for the shifter screws. Cos took me ages to loosen/tighten them with flathead!
So I spoke to 3Drap and they think the piece that holds the gear stick was simply the wrong size and are shipping me a new one for free. Hopefully that will fix everything.
did it fix it?
@@ekhliousful it did not buy apparently I'm the only person who has reported this issue. I think it might be a problem with the grease I'm using.
Great video!!! I have a question. How about the durability? I guess you use this mod for about one month. Did you have any problems?? Thank you.
I haven't noticed any degradation in the feel yet. I think the trick here is to make sure you have an ample amount of good quality lube applied on the appropriate friction points. But no matter what you do, it will wear out eventually.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you very much. That is all I want to know. I have some problem with some gear switch. 4 to 5 and 5 to 4. I was looking for something like this mod, and I think I will buy it.
I'm guessing this will work with the g27 shifter as well? Love the rig, great video too!
Yes it will! 👌
@@onetwo937 thanks for confirming. I think I'll just upgrade the g27 until I can afford a direct drive rig. I'll be buying the upgrade asap.
Great review buddy, however, you should try to use a clutch with this setup, it must add quite a thrill, also trying Punta Taccos gives so much adrenaline during race.
In that kind of race car you usually do float-shifting. Pretty much like on an Eaton Fuller Manual gearbox in a Semi.
do you have a video with the eaton fuller skrs or any other like it?
Man I miss being able to break with my left foot, recently became paralyzed on the left side and am using one foot on GT sport with a DFGT. Considering getting the G29 but really hate missing my left leg.
3drap has a mod for playing without using your feet. You control the throttle and brake with your hand. I don't know if that would be useful for you.
berarma thanks a lot for the tip, I can use my right foot for both pedals but clutch/ heel toe is a no go. I’m more interested in sequential shifting options, looks like there are mods for the G29 that work for this, hopefully anyways.
At 40:00 steering wheel cup in the middle looks like it's moving on independent from the rig. Is it an optical illusion or is it something behind it?
Illusion.
What do you think about resistance bands on the shifter
Hi Barry, thanks again for a great review. How would you say the modded Logitech shifter compares to the modded TH8A shifter?
They both work quite well. With the TH8A having a longer throw, and bit more solid feel due to it's having more metal in the build I think.
Sim Racing Garage Thanks for responding! I've been considering buying the mods for the TH8A, but am also considering selling the TH8A and buying the Fanatec shifter, since, moneywise the difference isn't that big. Given your experience with both, what would you say is the better option?
Can't say. That kind of thing really depends on your needs. And different people have different requirements, budgets, likes, dislikes, and so on. Only you can make the choice. Because only you know what you like. And what I prefer could end up being totally wrong for you. That's why I give so much detail in my reviews. Trying to make it easier for someone to make a choice.
Thank you very much, your videos are very helpful
That's just what i am looking for only one MAJOR problem, mine has reverse, or do you not use reverse?
I tought same.
Plenty Ponies press knob down and it’s where 6th is. Just have to hold the job down.
The logitech have a reverse like a usual gearbox you push down on the knob and put it into the 6th gear to engage reverse
Legend says his arms and forearms were built by simracing..
are all the parts that are used in the video when you order something
Good video, way to many commercials but yeah, nice breakdown of this mod.
Hi, I am looking for my first racing wheel to use for GT sport on PS4, would you recommend the logitech? Thanks.
Bhavinder Jassar g29. Been using it for a long time and buy a shifter as well
Yes
To impove my mounts, i have literally just jammed a couple of soft erasers in between the mount and the desk... no need to print/buy new clamps
i have mine mounted to a wooden platform (sililar to a desk etc) with no additional support and i can tell you right now, i'd snap the stick off right off before the clamps were to come loose.
whilst im appreciative and a fan of the content, i find a lot of the mods recommended by the channel to be a little unnecessary and in some cases wildly overpriced.
How long did this take to ship? I'm interested in purchasing it
I’m late to the comment party but have been checking out the videos on Mods for Logitech gear and am very curious now thanks to your in-depth reviews, so thanks Barry :) now I just have to decide exactly what to get and balance that against how much I’m willing to spend since currency conversion to AUD + shipping to me isn’t going to be super cheap - on the flip side I’ve only invested AUD$200 into my G920 and a custom wood rig thanks to a generous friend
I bought one of these and it is an absolute nightmare to fit
the fit and finish is awful
i bought the metal H plate to go with it.... doesn't fit.
there are little bolts that you are supposed to put into slots before putting the H plate on, those kept falling out.
I lost 3 of them inside the shifter and had to completely dismantle it
BARRY AND SUBSCRIBERS......I'm new to ps4 in general I've never been a gamer,BUT I now have a lot of time on my hands so I bought the ps4 pro and vr. I just ordered the logitech g29 wheel,pedals,and shifter with a gt omega apex stand. My question is.....do I just use what I ordered or is there any modifications I should DEFINITELY order for a better experience? Also can I have 2 recommendations for sim racing games both ps4 pro and psvr... thank you for any help and YES I HIT THE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON
ALL THE MODS WILL IMPROVE IT USE ALL
That's not a wrench, that's a screwdriver.
Hey I know it will decrease the longevity but will the mod function without grease or lube?
38:00 What's that big red button in the bottom right hand corner for!?
How is the shifter still good and I’m from Ontario Canada there website is not in English so how did you get it please get back to m Di need to know Canadian price etc
Yeah, a 3D printed clamp is stronger than a proper injection molded plastic part, sure, and as for the grip, all you need is some hot glue.
There is always that one smart ass... and you just made the list...
35:15 - 40:00 way too much sexual inuendo lol
35:17 "Because it is definately tight" "I just wanna make sure there's plenty of lube in there" "I gotta put my DICK-al on there, right?"
I see what he did there... xD
@@4n0nym0u5 ha lol lmao
23:10 as well lol
They should find a way to mass manufacture these with metal and they should come on the shifter normally.
See!
Robin Williams is not dead!
Would you rather use a Logi Shifter with these mods for over a $100 total, or just get a SHH Shifter for around the same price?
Being 3D printed, how do they hold up to continuous use?
It doesn't. I've had 3 replacement sliders.
Pretty good review!
Pretty damn good comment.
Oh, yeah, good spot! That comment wasnt for Barry [I would never slag him, he's a pro] - his youtube competitors made a 40 min ad for one of the producers and called it a "review". I must have mixed the cards up that day, and the comment landed here.
Fixed now... xD
In which case I will amend my previous comment. Agreed Barry is a pro.
How do you have the shifter connected? Doesn't it have to hook up to the G29?
There is adapter for it try this search on aliexpress "G29 Gearshift to USB Adapter Cable for Logitech G29".
Has anyone been using this mod for a long time? They sell version 3.5 now. I wonder if its worth buying or if I should invest in a better shifter.
I just bought the 3.5 version. Also have the extreme racing shift knob. Spent $80 altogether. Let you know how it does and feels
This is cool but for the price I may as well just buy a thrustmaster
The website is from the UK, do they ship to the US?
It's from Italy and they ship worldwide but it's pricey.
Like if you recognised that the "pointer" is a long monopolar electrosurgical cautery tip...
how will it go reverse?
IK Fahad have to put some pressure down on the knob and then put it beers 6th is. It locks in
The inside cam on my 3Dwrap cambrio mod cracked after only one week of use.
was it the v3.5 like this?
Shame there was no way to reattach the leather boot of the original.
I thought the same exact thing. Only a matter of time until some small object falls into the now completely exposed shifter.
Hi, they do make a mod where you can reattach the boot and the shifter looks normal standard from the outside. I ordered it and moded my G29 shifter a few years back and it improved the feel immensely. From sloppy no feel original, to the feeling of gates, no more 2nd gear to 5th accidental shifts.
www.3drap.it/product/mod-cambio-gearbox-logitech-g25-g27-g29-improved-feel/
@@milkshakemuncher is the 3drap product reliable because I am wanting to buy one but want to know how long they last and Also which one to buy in 2020
@@raxal9833 mine has been in for a few years now, I greased it a bit when installing it just so it slides better and doesn't wear out as quickly also once every 3 or 4 months I lube it with a little grease again. It is still going good but in saying that, there are periods of time where I'll use it every day for a few weeks but then sometimes not use it for a couple of months. At the time of purchase I also bought the carbon heavy duty insert to replace the smaller one if it broke (haven't needed it yet). I was like you, not wanting to waste time and money if it would break after little use. They say on the website that as it is a 3d printed plastic item it will eventually wear out, but replacement parts are cheap and from my experience it lasts a long time that you get your monies worth.
@@raxal9833 if you click the blue link in my first comment, it will take you to the 3d rapit site on the exact page of the mod I have is (Cambio H shifter V2 mod) 14.99 Euro I think. Then if you scroll down that page you will see the standard V2 replacement piece 6 something Euros and to the right you will see carbon extra strong V2 insert 9 something Euros.
My logitech shifter seems to mis-shift in certain cars in assetto corsa, when shifting into 4th and especially 5th. Shifting into 5th often goes to 3rd instead. It's my second logitech shifter with the same issue so I don't know if I'm unlucky or if it's a known fault with the shifter itself. Any idea if this mod can rectify this problem? I'm considering upgrading to the fanatec but I'd hold off a while if the mod works well.
they're all like this. I'm getting better with mine with practise though.
You might give a try spraying the potentiometers or buttons inside the shifter.
Once a year I spray my pots in G25 pedals, then I had to spray shifter pedals buttons on the wheel cause I had double downshift problem, and today sprayed pots in G25 shifter cause I had problem with sequential shifting. Your problem might be mechanical but you can always use Electrical Spray on buttons and pots...
@@xrider55 Thanks for the tips. I'll definitely do that. It only happens in cars with H- pattern but only some cars so not sure if it's assetto corsa or the shifter at fault.
Tighten the T-shape screws on the shifter gimbal down inside the shifter that grabs the T-shaped holes on the walls inside the shifter.
They work loose over time and will then go into 3rd and 4th instead of 1st, 2nd, 5th and 6th.
Disassemble the gearknob and leather boot, you'll see the screws I'm talking about, they stick out on the left and right side, just hand tighten them.
Or stick a bit of rubber between the desk and the clamp.
Does reverse still work?
Can I do this mod with a G25?
Malcom McLeod if you still don’t know after 4 months, yes. The Logitech shifter has barely changed
where can we get this mod in the US?
sorry if he mentioned this, but does anybody know how he's using the shifter? It's supposed to only be compatible with the G29/920.
Leo Bodnar make a adapter turns it into a stand alone usb device
How does not having shift boot feel? Concerns with dirt/dust on bearing life?
i play fh5 and i drive slower and stage 1 tuned cars somi dont need this i sometimes misshift but that is rarely because i know the shifter well
How would reverse work on it as a 6 speed? 🤔
I think its push down and put in 1st.
Push down into 6th
@@tylervardy3917 so you push down as you go into 6th with this kit on? Isn't it a 7 gate shifter with a "safety" on the 7th?
@@barrabikes6890 yeah you have to press in on the knob and push it downward and then shift into 6th.
It's probably the worst part of the shifter honestly.
I paid over 70 euros (with shipping) for this shifter mod, not including the clamping mods to have it break after 3 days of use
the v3.5?
@@atticusrussell1225 It was the earlier version, I had bought 2 with similar failures, I have now the v3.5 which seems a lot better but only had it for a week.
seemed to be a very helpful vid. bad news, I ordered this kit from 2 different sources in an attempt to end up with what you reviewed. Never happened. Result # 1 I received the “cup component” of the reviewed kit. That’s it, no other parts(internal or external) nothing! Result # 2 I got the same cup and the pattern decal, still nothing else. For Gods sake, how can I get this mod kit. Barry, if you have a spare, I’ll buy it from you. Thanks for the vid that now keeps me awake nights. Help me! Bob
bgk71 You can go to 3Draps website or you can find them when you type in g29 shifter mod and its the 3.5 version should be like $50
You bought knock offs. Order from 3Drap if you want the one in the video
will it accept an SKRS adapter
Aplus b adapter
3:05 😏
Onde q compra esse acessório?
Valdiney Silva Fereira www.3drap.it/product/mod-cambio-v3-h-shifter-logitech-g25-g27-g29-g920-improved-feel/
Just wondering, would the part that goes for the shifter (not the clamps) work for the G27 Shifter?
According to the 3Drap website, yes.
The g27 shifters are almost identical to g29, for the 29 they moved the buttons from the shifter to the steering wheel. The basic design is the same, and mechanics are the same. Clamps and shifter are exactly the same which is why it is compatible for both. For example I still have the g27 shifter and there are some people still using the g25 shifter since it has the sequential shifter option.
i think u mounted the piece wrong direction. 180 degrees and it should shift a bit looser
"liberal grease" 😂😂😂
Ok but additional 3D piece, usb converter bla bla... plastic fantastic. But really Fanatec shifter for really good price made a great shifter with easy switcher to seq. And quality.. Omg I think Fanatec made the best price to quality range shifter ever! Please gays try it.