Typically British Murder: The Maureen Cosgrove Case | Nightmare In Suburbia
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2023
- Jobless George Maben in his early 40s and living with his 83yr old mum, lucked out when he bumped into a younger woman named Sally outside a Surrey hospital. Love bloomed, and George found himself settling into Sally's mum's large suburban home with all the creature comforts and space he wanted. Sally soon got pregnant. But her mum Maureen got tired of George's laziness asked him to leave. Back living with his 83yr old mum, and determined to get his comfy life with Sally back, George then set a plan in motion which would involve murder, betrayal and unusually for the police, a meticulous investigation that would only succeed by involving divine intervention.
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They lost their dad to suicide and their mum to murder. God, it's heartbreaking :(
I’m thinking, 🤔, a 40 yr old unemployed man, with kids, on state welfare, has come to me asking for a cigarette, I would INSTANTLY dismiss any notion of considering that man as a potential lifelong partner. 🤦♀️
Most normal self respecting women would do the same....
Got that right. How many red flags do you need?
To be fair she was mourning her dad's suicide at the time
A psychopath knows how to target a vulnerable person and charm them. Sad. This woman/daughter is responsible for bringing that toxic man into her family and her mother's house and ultimately the crime. Terrible.
@@1fan689, “To be fair” to whom? Mourning a father who gave into the voice of suicide is sad. However, which aspect of a man who fails to work even to provide for his children would convince you that he will make a great life partner?
I hope to GOD her father left a better legacy that would let his daughter know her value! I plead with GOD that her father’s example was far removed from the version of a “man” that lazy murderer displayed to that lady.
And what was the end result to such fairness, or enabling: that poor lady is without BOTH PARENTS!
So, again, what aspect of her grief for her father is interpreted as being “fair” to that begging lazy murderer?
Sorry for my blatant language, but the sympathy card simply does not work during this day and age of manipulative behavior that is spotted any and every time you view one of the hundreds of newscast, UA-cam forensic documentaries, and the new form of entertainment that shows COUNTLESS VICTIMS being swayed by manipulators.😢
If it had been the judge's Mum who had been murdered, I think we can confidently assume a very different sentence. Outrageous.
Good on the cops. Great job and especially for getting the sentence increased.
That was in the days before the police became woke and learnt to take the knee at every opportunity, paint their cars with rainbows & LGBTQ+/-* badges, recruiting only those with psychopathic tendencies.
They don’t investigate crimes now, unless they are thought crimes.
The judges logic for a lesser sentence is ridiculous. It was cold blooded murder, not his first theft.
That judge should be sacked as they are just not up to the job.
If he was a black man, I guarantee the sentence would have been very different.
@@nuviaerivez5876Yes ,he would have been congratulated for being himself and being a good boy.
the judge needs to stop skipping his medication.
@@dianet2702 Doubtful, but I suppose highly-conservative conspiracy theorists have to tell themselves all kind of tales to make sense of the world.
the Judge in this case was disgusting with his comments about this "kind" murderer
I absolutely agree! The family should’ve done something about him, he needed to be ousted somehow, useless as a judge!
Yes. The judge was able to relate to the scoundrel but not to the dead lady !
Must have been old and decrepit with his brains turned into mashed potatoes. Some never retire .They prefer to die on their throne.
I really apreciate how much i agree to your comment.keep it up😅
Can you impeach him?
Unemployed, in his 40's, living with his mother. She must have been extremely vulnerable to overlook those immediate red flags.
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13 years for premeditated murder is so absurd and nothing more than a slap in the face to the brothers and sisters... who had just lost their father a couple of years previously... for a lazy, worthless, self serving and malicious criminal.
Well... I guess NO point in watching now..... since u had to RUIN it 🙄
They appealed. 18 years.
@@amyrudolph3932 You chose to read the comments section before watching it. You ruined it for yourself.
Don’t read the comments before You’re seen the video, as simple as that 😂
They said he was desperate and wanted to be with the woman he loved. He didn't kill the old lady to be with her daughter, he just killed her to stay in their house rent-free. To stay a parasite for the rest of hist life.
His problem was he had absolutely no respect for peoples hospitality and abused their kindness plus he was totally lazy and contributed to NOTHING?
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Just a classic scumbag moocher. Dole bludgers are rife in the UK, give them a hand and they take an arm .
He had no respect for a kind, middle-aged lady's hospitality ..Maureen obviously wasn't the sort to even say 'boo' to a goose, and this sucking scumbag homed in on that straightaway. If she had had her husband by her side, all this would never have happened BC Dosser would never have been allowed to come live in the house. George dominated Maureen and thought he had her exactly where he wanted her....murder was the outcome of his impatience to get his hands on everything she possessed.
I knew the Cosgroves when I was a teenager from volunteering at a kid's charity with John. They were such lovely, wonderful people so I was completely shocked and heartbroken when, a few years back, I was looking to reconnect with John and this story was what I found. My heart goes out to these wonderful people; I cant think if anyone I've ever known who deserved this, but least if all John, Carolyn, Matthew, 'Sally' and Maureen. Rest In Peace Mr & Mrs Cosgrove.
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Thank you for providing a deeper insight into the family. So sorry it happened to you and them.
Why is the other daughter being called Sally,when it's not her name?
I could never forgive my sister for bringing the murderer of my mother into the family.
Massive respect for the detective work in this case.
Yes superb
Oh please. George could have gotten a job and taken his shoes off at the door per many requests. That would have changed everything. George didn't want to do that. Murder was easier. He got off far to easy.
AND who put their feet with shoes on up on a couch? I mean who does that?
A psychopath… that’s who 😬
Don’t forget that the daughter who was also just as much a waste of space as the piece of scum she slept with is to blame for bringing him into the family. Of all men she could’ve gotten involved with she chose him? A jobless dirtbag living at home with his mommy & living off welfare?! WOW! What a great catch!
@@sdmsdm7926l agree, but, knowing the father of this girl committed suicide, l would wonder if the daughter was suffering from acute depression or some sort of mental condition that prevented her from functioning normally & caused her to become dependent on weak characters whose saving grace was that they knew how to be affectionate towards her??? Just saying 🤷
@@theresarasche3173lol my son
The Cosgrove daughter was targeted by a narcissist. He got her pregnant with an eye on an easy life. His mother would’ve also been murdered to give him the life he thought he deserved. The only thing that saved his mother was, he didn’t get away with the first murder!
Is as cold and calculating as that!
Even the judge fell for it, that’s how practiced narcissists can be.
What an awful person. I'm so sorry for the family's loss.
Its a complete slap in the face to the families these flimsy sentences. They should get life. R.I.P Maureen, my heart goes out to your family. I hope Gorge never walks out alive.
Some blame to the daughter for bringing that monster into Maureen's orbit.
The daughter should live with the Husband and not in Her Mother's house if she wanted to live in Her Mother's house than She should live alone in Her Mother's house She brought this Useless Man.in.Her House and destroyed the whole Family The Daughter is to be blamed
I think some of u didn't watch to the end because they were able to get his sentence increased to 18 years
Exactly!
It was a relief to watch that part
When an adult child hooks up with a toxic personality it affects so many people than just themselves. That poor mother - the stress of some bum living in her space and refusing to find work and move out, getting her daughter pregnant when he couldn't even take care of himself. The fact that he was in his 40's and living with his mother was a huge red flag when he first met the daughter. She should have never let him move into her mother's home. He was pissed he was tossed out of the house and felt entitled to live in their home off of their hard work. The daughter is responsible for bringing this toxic person into the family. What a mess, the poor mother.
Yes, but who allowed him to move in that house in the first place? My folks would’ve said you’re pregnant by some jobless dirtbag who already has a bunch of kids?! Go move in with HIS mother!
@@sdmsdm7926 Hear hear! Our elder daughter got involved with a similar worthless dirtbag, much older than her, with a bunch of kids, 'ex's', AND a new, younger partner at the time with whom he had a toddler. Very charming, very smarmy, ALSO Scottish, l might add, he managed to charm the socks off our daughter who had just split up with her then current boyfriend. The guy was a busker who had played and sung in our place (we own a bar/restaurant with rooms), years previously and had been very popular, He & his then partner (and their kids) had stayed with us off & on, and our young daughter must have been impressed by him. We lost contact with this individual for decades until my husband 'rediscovered' him on FB & more or less invited him along to sing in the bar again that summer. He came with new partner & toddler in tow, and, to our HORROR, immediately seduced our daughter who was living with us again after splitting up with her boyfriend. Of course, we knew what he was angling at - he was quite prepared to stay with us, appendages and all, while he sealed his relationship with our daughter, feeling quite at home & in no hurry to move out. My husband & l couldn't believe it, and spent the next year & a half doing everything in our power to get him out of our daughter's life. He hung in like a limpet, would not go away, and we were very afraid that he would get our daughter pregnant and ensure himself a free pass to our property (rather valuable at the time.) To cut a long story short, we finally phoned his ex and told her the whole story. She was obviously afraid of him & didn't want to get involved, but DID tell us that this was his usual MO to get himself 'into' places, and the best thing our daughter could do was to 'run like hell'!. Eventually, our daughter 'saw the light' after some dubious past actions of his became apparent, and we were able to 'rescue' her, but only after threatening to disinherit her and her storming off to live in another country for a few months. The guy still didn't desist until it was obvious she wasn't going to answer any more of his calls, and he ex partner had told him that we were involved and were 'onto him'. Fortunately, everything blew over and our daughter is now happily married to a very nice, hard-working man. Phew!! I feel for the Cosgrove family, and am sure that if Maureen could have had the support of her husband, none of this would ever have happened.
Maureen was obviously a kind and loving mum and did what she thought was best at the time.
@@emmykinsy5822 Yes, and got herself killed. Sometimes you have to do better than your best.
He WOULDN’T take care of himself.
No one ever deserves this, & I hope that these people who murder others, get what they deserve, & which is to be put in prison indefinitely, & NEVER released, and they must be held accountable for their actions, there is NO EXCUSE for this, EVER.
What a good for nothing daughter...a pariah, her & George both...Maureen should never have let her daughter come & live with her but make her stand on her own two feet, get a job & pay her own way, & him to, instead of mooching of her mother.
Exactly!
Daughter was a mo ro nic thot. Edit: I wrote that comment when I was angry and I feel like it was a bit harsh because she'd lost her dad and gotten divorced. But women must learn to recognise red flags and this oxygen thief she hooked up with was full of them. Better to be single and have her mother's love than to hook up with a toxic malicious killer, a real wastrel.
@@alsmith9853 Understatement.....poor woman. No good deed goes unpunished is sooo true.
Does anyone know what suicide does to a family? This poor girl was still trying to come to terms with her fathers tragic death. This made her extremely vulnerable. Con men like George would find her easy prey, easy to con. Sally was there for her mum. They were supporting each other when in steps George. Sally could not have known what a monster he was. She deserves as much support as the rest of the family, not vilifying!
@@chriscafferkey7736 Give it a rest. stop making excuses for this good for nothing daughter.
What an evil son in law, George is so evil, I hope he is enjoying every day in prison!
I don't even think that they were married. What a parasite.
The "honourable" judge made sure that he won't be inside for long. These so called "justice providers" themselves do injustice too, so many a times. Infuriating. And i won't be surprised if that wife of his takes him back too after his release.
They weren't married.
He wasn't her son-in-law. He was just living off of her because her daughter was looking for a father figure.
He is the perfect definition of a LOSER!
It is the no hope of a daughter's fault bringing in a loser with no job, no prospects and wanting to sponge off the family.
Two losers together....
Losing your father to suicide is no picnic, she was very vulnerable and these narcissists hone in on these people
@@JulieRushworth Don't expect the person to understand. They only believe in 'evil' and apportioning blame. No sophisticated views of human relations.
Never, never, NEVER, partner with an adult non-worker!!!!!!!!!!
But he was on disability, poor thing.
Those judges were wack! Oh poor George was under stress because he was in love. Gives love a dirty taste in your mouth.
George doesn't know what love is
I feel very sorry for Maureen who list her life partly because she lost her husband. If there had been a man in her house, there's no way this utter bum & wastrel would have wormed his way in. Men have a way of feeling extremely uncomfortable with other men who are bums, and will kick them out in the blink of an eye. These same bums tend to dominate and disrespect women and will linger around,refusing to take 'no' for an answer. As a mother who has been through TWO ordeals involving worthless bums who managed to get involved with one of my daughters, l'm just very glad & grateful that l had my husband by my side to help me with the task of getting rid of them. The Cosgrove case is very close to my heart......this is what can happen when you let these kind of dossers into your home & life. They stay. Then it's you or them.Thirteen years is not enough - this guy should have been given 'life'.
Well said 👏 👌 👍
George would have never moved into my home. If Sally needed him she wouldn't have moved back either. I am surprised her brothers didn't object to this lowlife being in their mother's home. I don't understand these people. I truly have difficulty understanding people living lives of drama.
@@sharonsmalls6846 The brothers definitely failed as men to help their mom and sister
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The sister annoys me, but I feel the Mom should have never let that lowlife in her home. Why in the world did they take him on vacation? This family baffles me. Who allows a 40-year-old slacker into your life and begins caring for him? Because you're dating my daughter, I'm not feeding you and you're living with ME? 🤦🏿♀️
Yes, you have to be quite direct and clear. I said to my son who has a lovely hard working girl friend she can come a night or two a week but not move in here in the week. It is just where I draw my own line.I may be female but am pretty good at saying no.
Yes Sally got taken up with the wrong guy and now she has to raise her baby on her ( better off if you ask me) and that's sad for the child. She didn't have anything to do with her mother's death. Tons of us have fallen for the wrong guy and he took advantage of it by being a worthless and lazy scumbag murderer.
He was a jobless dirtbag living with his mommy & on welfare when she met him, yet, she chose to have sex with the LOSER knowing damn well she wasn’t even on birth control. She was just as much a waste of space as he was, she was clearly spoiled by two parents who had done well for themselves. She was still living at home at her age? Come on now! Get a job & move out & on with your life instead of taking advantage of Mom.
Women should be taught to have their wits about them when choosing a boyfriend. So much tragedy comes about because of bad choices.
people buy the wrong pet every day; but when you find out it's a rattler not a garden snake; you don't take it home and throw on your widowed, defenseless, elderly, mother.
A clear case of decent honourable and hard working people casting their pearls before swine.
This useless apology for a man, a lazy self indulgent sponger, should never have crossed the threshold.
I hope the daughter can live with the consequences of her terrible choice.
she was too desperate that she ignored all the red flags. She saw them all. No Job, 40 yrs old and living with his mother, lazy, willing to sponge off your elderly mother, messy, entitled, jealous and possessive, rude.
Of course, she won’t, should be shacked up with the next conman before you know it
@@user-il1nj7gu1c Exactly! That’s just what she will do!
@@user-il1nj7gu1c I agree. She will do it again.
The daughter was perhaps not in the best place emotionally, with a failed marriage and losing her dad. Being vulnerable, she was probably an easy target for George. Maureen was probably a bit vulnerable too, living alone, having lost her husband. She was probably glad that her daughter had found someone else after her break-up. And Maureen did lay down the law when George didn’t make an effort to find a job, not taking him on holiday after he’d behaved badly on the first one…
08:07 Sally's new boyfriend George "Jordy" SHOULD be eager to help his 82 year old mother who he lives with and his children which I'm sure he's not helping care of instead of a family he just met. I'm already seeing RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE with this man.
Shame on the daughter for even expecting her mom to keep her and her boyfriend up!! 😔
Maybe she stayed with her mum because she didnt want to let her be alone .
Sally, please girl, you’re pregnant, STOP SMOKING!!!
Seriously, of everything on here, her smoking is your concern?
The brother is so sweet. This poor family.
Very sad. People like him prey on good nature.💔💔
The daughter is just as much to blame! 😢😢
The detective: ‘George immediately stood out from the other members of the family, he came across as softly spoken, quite charming and very eager to help.’ If I were a loud mouth, belligerent unhelpful member of that family, I would be terribly offended! 😆
Looks are deceiving.
LOL!
I noticed that too....The narrator makes it seem as though the rest of the family WEREN'T charming or softly spoken Strange way of putting things.
i blinked at that too , but then again these are so heavily edited that im pretty sure that comment was taken out of its context.
That sentence was demeaning!! He should be in prison for life!!😞
The UK justice system always makes me angry. They spend a lot of time and money to find the murderer and then they feel sorry for him/her. They care more for the criminals than for the victims and their families.
I would have not only thrown him earlier, I won’t even have him live in my home. Her daughter shouldn’t have done this to her mother , shouldn’t have brought a lazy moocher to her mom’s home.
You need to look around the world ….this happens everywhere, rubbish sentences…..and the other way around
Australias system is trash too!
@@MrPaultopp - Yes it’s very sad. Canada, Australia and many European countries too. Unfortunately now the leftists in the US are little by little changing the justice system in the US and copying those countries. If you wish to commit a crime in the US especially as bad as murder you should do that in state that the left has control of everything, the Governor, the Senators, and the judicial system.
Canadians & Australians r even worse!
Canada is far worse ..... especially with murders of indigenous women.
Crooked judge! That dude needs WAY more time in prison!
Thankfully he received more time and the original judge should have been retired for incompetency!
Excellent policing!
Lord Chief Justice said: “We have concluded there was a disproportionate reduction in the sentence available in this case.
“We shall order that the minimum term be increased to 18 years.”
@Alapahauk Thank you for posting this additional information. I really appreciate it.👍
Crazy ass judge hope same crap happens to him so he can realize how a miserable 18 years is nothing for taking one’s life...
Even 18 was not long enough .Life minus parole .....
13 years, seriously? He was t sorry he did it, he was sorry he got caught. It wasn't about being with the woman he loved. It was about controlling her. He is an insecure bum. I've never understood why women get pregnant by men who already have children they are not talking care of. It's not like he was just sending money because he didn't work. To have their father and mother pass the way they did is so sad
44:28 Watch and listen. An appeal to the High Court increased the sentence to 18 years.
@PumaLyn I wrote the comment before the end, but even 18 years isn't enough. He should be in jail for life.
She was an irresponsible waste of space, she was no teenager, she should’ve been on birth control if she was so busy out there having sex! The mother is to blame as well because she should’ve told the both of them good luck go find your own place to live especially since she never cared for that bum her daughter was sleeping with. Sometimes we create our own hell.
its a MINIMUM of 13 years till eligable for parole, if his parole is denied his sentance will continue; but i agree a minimum of 13 years is shamfully low.
The original sentence was ridiculous, and the judge's comments idiotic
- glad it was increased.
Why was he on disabilty payments ? These are an absolute nightmare to qualify for even with medical paperwork and backing .
IKR, but it's UK and they seem MUCH more lax from what I've seen and been told by my British friends. It's absurd. I have devastating RA, but I even had to go in in-person to meet with a Soc Security officer and endured a drawn out process. 😕🇺🇸
I don't know if you are referring to disability payments in the UK or the US. I live in the US and it is extremely difficult to qualify for disability payments here. I personally know two people who needed disability, but had to apply time and time again for it even though they qualified for it. If they had not had people to help them they would have been homeless. After a long and arduous applying time and time again they finally got their due. Then you see people like this and what in the world!
@@victrola2007I don't think so, I have Lung Disease, Sarcoid oasis and asthma i don't get anything!!
@@G-Star-Raw Did you get declined from ssdi?
I’ve been told it’s far easier (in the US) to get disability if you have a mental illness rather than a physical disability. Think depression or anxiety.
Devastating series of horrific events. Hope all of their beautiful children are rebuilding their lives together and staying close to each other. May both their father and mother be reunited within eternal heavenly peace 🙏
My heart goes out to the whole family. The traumatic loss of their dad. The daughter, Sally's innocence and the mother's acceptance of Sally's boyfriend living in the family home and also the lovely son, talking us through their distressing experiences. The mother could see through George but I think maybe the whole family should have sat down and discussed having a meeting with George. The mum was old and vulnerable and tired of her daughter's 'hanger-on'. Some victims say that murder happens to other people and wasn't meant to happen to them. Looking at this sad documentary I think that murder can happen to anyone and everyone.
Shocking the number of people blaming the daughter in the comments. The only person responsible for this murder is the murderer, end of. It’s completely heartless to blame her after everything she and her family have been through.
I second every word.
What an absolute poor excuse for a man,a wastrel,didn't support himself,his kids or his partner,but what a stretch to kill someone,his partner's Mum.😢
over £4O no less ..
thats like $5O US..
what a POS..
Making more babies he won't support
George is the laziest person I ever heard of. What’s the purpose of his existence?
she kept nagging lol
@@si4632 can you blame her?!
The human leach
Why people get involved with such unsavoury folk is beyond me
11:27 🤯😵 Sally got Pregnant!!! Seriously, what was she thinking???
I am constantly amazed at how stupid some criminals appear. They seem totally unaware that in today's world everyone and his cat has a cell phone with a camera AND there are CCTV cameras EVERYWHERE. How on earth do they think they can make any move at all without it being captured dozens of times on cameras scattered all over the place. And yet, they stupidly carry on with their nefarious actions apparently blithely unaware that their every move is being recorded. They couldn't be any more obvious if they asked a policeman to hold their beer while they commit the crime.
And also all of them carry their phones with them every time, and the phone tower data places them on the crime scene. Every damned time.
Lol yep and they often Google how to kill/how to hide a body etc on their personal devices.. Crazy stupid stuff
Please don't tell my cats that other cats have mobiles!! ......
im pretty sure they're well aware and just dont give a fuck. They dont value human life including their own.
For once stupidity is a blessing!
Hell no! Why would you have a man in your space who won’t work, taking up all the resource, living with his mom and off benefits?? He is a cad and a USER. Why would you bring that into your mom’s house and leave her to manage all that after all she has lost? He did NOT LOVE HER. SHE WAS A CONVENIENT MEAL TICKET THAT he was USING. HELL NOOOOOOO! And no offense but Sally seems like SHE was misusing mom as well. IJS
And he was annoyed at having to leave Ireland, even though he partly caused Sally to lose her job by constantly hanging around the office!
I hope George's dog found a good home.
She was a dinner lady when I went to that high school in Carshalton!
In the U.S.A....we call them " lunch ladys".👍😁
@traceyhall-green6191 yes St Phil’s
The daughter should also be held responsible this man was a loser and she continued to stay with him😊
She was vulnerable, with poor self-worth and being manipulated by a dangerous person. Happens the world over and she cannot have imagined it would result in her mother's death. I think she's suffered quite enough.
@@BeaIEngiono excuse
@@BeaIEngio It was a codependent relationship and her mother paid the ultimate price for her bad choices
@@dsingh448 I know.
You sound quite pleased and smug about that? What about his mummy too, maybe it's her fault? or his ex girlfriends faults. God forbid it's just the manipulative, controlling narcissists fault.
Shocking story. The warning signs were there - unemployed living with an elderly mother...... and no occupation or money..... Very sad for the Cosgroves.
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this is why you dont take homeless bums into your house.. theres issues there that they havent resolved in years, even decades.. and youre not going to fix it..
murdered.. over $5O ..
rip dear woman..
Quick Google, and 'Sally' becomes Lucy. Why change the name when it can be found very easily on the internet?
I thought that too...one search gives her name
@traceyhall-green6191 Bit bloody daft when you can just go on Google.
I still say criminals are stupid…everything can be tracked these days…you delete anything it can be retrieved yet it doesn’t deter them…the justice system needs to change..the sentences are ridiculous…how can such a lenient sentence be enough for ending someone’s life and destroying the family…it’s a lifetime sentence for them why not the criminal!! RIP Maureen ❤
They need to build more prisons in England & adopt life without parole laws...
Good God … that initial sentence was a joke. So someone “under stess” who wouldn’t hold a job to support his coming child is given special treatment? Some judges defy understanding.
Good Lord I wear my shoes in the house! But I never killed anyone. Poor Maureen, what a silly daughter getting involved with such an obvious loser.
But it's YOUR house, not somebody else's!
Ridiculous jail sentence 😢😢😢
Sat on sofa with his shoes on the sofa left hand in his pants fidgeting with his acorn n right hand holding the tv remote 😂 pure waste
If that was my mother he’d be chased out of the house with a heav duty frying pan!
Misogyny & narcissism just go hand & glove together with revenge. It’s ALWAYS about the $ stupid 🤦♀️
Thanks to Detectives. The Judge understood. 🙏
A broke unemployed man on public assistance should never be a consideration of a life partner! And even worse if he has kids with several other women!
Love em & leave em, can't hold a job and anger issues.
If you're vulnerable after losing a parent, do yourself a favor and don't date! Accept support from solid long term friends and spend some time alone.
Some people involved in these crimes are just unlucky victims but I notice that these poor souls are very few instances. Most of them were looking for trouble (unconsciously of course) by showing an unbeleievable amount of frivolity, or naivety or by not wanting to put their children or relatives out. Hospitality and good will towards your children and relatives is completely different from pampering or accepting a stranger into your household just to fill your empty space or your heart.
I agree. My father's parents had lots of down on their luck family members needing help and I think that is why my parents were better at putting up barriers to that kind of thing and why I am relatively strong about it too.
I can't believe that judge... No, wait a minute I can; they're all damn useless when it comes to sentencing monsters like him.
I also found it weird as shown in the reenactment (which may not be accurate) that 'Sally' was less concerned about her mother being murdered than her boyfriend being charged with it.
If the police took my car away for forensic testing after a murder, I'd consider that they'd also have bugged it. That's why the creep's apology sounded so fake, though it just could have been bad acting.
Correct ! He was acting for the camera
Why are your Judges more concerned about the safety & welfare of Murderers, Criminals & illegal Migrants, over those of victims & locals .?
Fathers don't realize how much damage their absence causes. Grifters gravitate towards homes with absent or weak fathers. Probably if the father had been there, this guy wouldn't have been allowed to move in unless he got a job. Depressed people don't realize how important they are! It's sad that nobody noticed his symptoms in time.
Luckily, my parents drilled into us children to get an education while they were paying, and get a good job that we'd be able to support ourselves with. They were children of the Depression, and had had to quit school at 14 yrs old and had struggled in ways they saw others with adequate education didn't have to.
In my early 20s, I briefly dated a guy on benefits. It didn't take my long to figure out if I was going to do it all on my own, I certainly didn't need a leech who wasn't contributing in any way.
You got THAT right! Who needs those types of headaches in life?
I thought murder was at least 20 years
Police did a great job , ❤
How could a guy that won't work be good for your sister?
Image the initial incredulity on the face of the guy who picked up the discarded coat when the police appeared on his doorstep 😂😂😂
Excellent they bugged the car, wow
R I P Mr & Mrs Corgrove.
What is with the daughter. What a poor judge of character.
who would have a baby with that male? Some women are not fussy.
Desperate woman and silver tongued Scot... Plenty of them around here in Ireland, strangely enough the women almost all seem to be English...
She likes LOSERS...
Time after time, this country seems to give extremely low sentences for murder. Very soft in crime.
It’s sickening the lax sentences these days for these criminals who deserve life, but only serve a few years and then get out to live the rest of their lives in freedom. Hers was taken away so why should he be out to do it again????
Court is encouraging crime by these weak sentences,in both, England and Canada !!.
The dog ate my gloves.
He doesn't deserve a dog!
Misogyny is real
"We are only as safe as men allow us to be"
I often think that there would be less women murdered if men had a better understanding how how ignorant they are about how to get away with that kind of crime, because so many men leave so much evidence, but this might be the best example of that I've ever seen.
I should also say that another pattern we see in too many men, is that they either use past trauma in the woman's life against them, or don't seem to care about the past trauma, & knowing how their father died, & killing their mother in such a similar way, really shows the depth of selfishness in him.
@nicholasschoonbeck6866 have you Ever watched the Crime program 'Snapped' because its Mostly Women killing their Husbands!!!
@@PaganPunk In the UK only 5 percent of females are in jail and 95 percent of males in jail. Men need to really look their own behaviour and do something about their anger management, and need for status and control
A lot of them are psychopaths, they are arrogant and often impulsive
@pagan punk, you haven't watched much of snapped, few women murderers. Predominately men.
I hope that Sally lives with her contribution to her mother's death. He was obviously a narcissist and his 'love' is also obviously possessiveness/ownership.
exactly. The more we learn about the red flags of narcissism the better, we can try and dodge having relationships and babies with them.
He just saw some chick with money & decided to leach off her & her mother....there was no love there...
Cowardly bastard should be a lot more it's so frustrating RIP SWEET
My god he takes a life and gets a holiday
He will be out in half that time shocking
What an evil man. I wonder how the daughter feels now. She brought that loser to the house and he ends up killing her own mother.
13 years for a sociopathic, cunning,murderous parasite who can not be rehabilitated should never see the light of day!
Rest In Peace Maureen. Hope you are at peace together with your husband.
Great policing!
Unemployed man living with his mum. Sexy, what a catch.
Run away...fast.
LOL! Yeah great catch! The girl has zero self esteem.
This is the most thurogh investigation ive ever watched , we need these kind of investigators every where !!!
“Queee guapa you’re gorgeous” 😂
Not a good thing to encourage your daughter to go off with an unemployed man. Even if he was washing, dishes or delivering pizzas would be better than being a lay-a- about.
The baby has those negative traits of the father, this is not good. Many of my traits I can see came from my mother and then I can see the ones which came from my father. we are very much a product of our parents which dictates the way we behave in our life
Such a heartbreaking case. That poor little one. Having to come into this world with that awful truth already a burden they'll carry for all their days.
May it be a reminder to us all to be very mindful of who we let into our lives & that of our loved ones.
Romantic or Platonic, our relationships have ripple effects. The only choice we get to have in what kind those happen to be was when we chose to have that relationship.
We must also be mindful of those around them that we introduce our loved ones to.
For instance, how many children have ended up falling victim to the step sibling(s).
The original sentence was such an insult. And the reason given for it was clearly the magistrate victim blaming her for her own death.
What a pos..that poor woman.
31:20 And here comes a devil in disguise