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- Jim Jackson joins the show today to talk about Kevin Durant's recent comments about LeBron James being a 'toxic' player and also says that Larry Bird was not a 'transformational' player.
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What are your thoughts about Kevin Durant's comments?
Forget the Durant comments, what about Jim Jackson's comments on LB? ABSURD. Get this man a therapist to work through his issues.
Only selfish players think like KD we all know what he's capable of but he act like he didn't join an all star studded team to win championships.... I say whoever feels like they need to win a championship can put their differences aside and join lebron......... yall still haven't apologized to Javale McGee by the way!!!!
Whitlock will do anything to please his white bosses
True, true & true!!! Hurts the feelings of LeBron fanboys but it's all TRUE!!!
Why do you go to commercial break? He was making a point through the insight of a basketball player. I hope this topic gets brought up again. There is more to understand.
Jimmy Jackson wishes he had 20 percent of what Larry Bird had...facts
Straight up.
@MALO 💯...I was trying to be nice to Jimmy
20% how about 0.5%, add Martin and Jackson combined and it goes to 1%
Quit making stuff personal its opinion yall be tripping out in the comments
Its more like a black and white thing for Larry. Blacks doesn't believe Larry is that good.
Because 6'9 players were shooting 3s, getting triple doubles and hitting 90% from the free throw line before larry bird.
😆
Bird was transformational as the real first stretch big man. He bacame the model for players like Dirk and KD.
@@ericlind6581 exactly! speaking legitimate facts right now. Dirk has even been quoted as saying such in the past.
James Lamb Yep those of us who are old enough to watch Bird know that he was the first true stretch big man at 6’9”. Even by today’s standards he would probably be the 2nd best shooter after Curry...but he’s more clutch than Curry.
Joseph Friedman they are clear racist
Larry bird could do things at 6'9" that very few human beings have yet to do while not being particularly athletic and when you watch him play it seemed effortless.
Well said, Michael. He moved in slow motion, but when u do that u can see a lot more plays developing at that speed.
@@eriksolner4877 Then he should have been a better defender.
You are totally correct about LARRY Bird
Well Bird was the first White guy in the modern era who could dominate the mostly African-American players in the NBA. It's like the old Rocky movies in that Apollo Creed was modeled after Muhammad Ali and America's obsession to dethrone Ali with the Great White Hope. That never happened but that doesn't stop the narrative.
@@phade2blaq you right Mike
Bird was so transformational the Celtics picked him a year before he was eligible to play in the NBA. Red knew very early what the willfully ignorant would soon learn the hard way.
You absolutely can NOT get ascribed the moniker "Larry Legend" and NOT be transformational!
Dude talking about Larry's locker room aura and he wasn't even there.
Larry Bird was the man. I don't know what he's talking about.
Johnny Swanson what did he do that has been done??
Greatest shooter and an even better trash talker in one of the toughest times of the NBA....
True that... I'm black and was... Is a baller... Larry bird was the truth
Are you buying Larry's shoes?
@@cmoneyno5 are you buying magic Johnson shoes? He still a top 5 ever.
Jim Jackson must be racist . Larry Birds "Aura" was so far beyond Lebron to the other players that he was playing against. Players are nowhere near as scared of Lebron as they were of Bird
That's the truth. Bird was as strong of a leader as anyone who has ever played the game. He was a phenomenal talent and very unselfish on the court compared to guys like LeBron in today's game. You would not see Bird hold the ball for 90% of a possession, but he would have a massive impact on the game and make his teammates better across the board.
How is he a racist when stated that he loved Larry 🤔
You mentioned race. He did not
Bron beat 4 HOFers that won 73 games while leading in every stat category... that ends this debate regardless of era...
Moto JoJo 4 hall of famers? Care to enumerate?
man Larry Bird was a bad man. if Bird played today He'd be shitting on everyone!
Especially that the league doesn't play D anymore. When Larry came in the league the 3 had just been implemented! Larry is part of the 50/40/90 club!
I agree.
He could still score, but he would be to slow and way and I mean way to un athletic to cover guys today. LeBron, Ad, the greek freek. LMAO
MAGIC, BIRD, ISAIAH the old 3kings until JORDAN...STEPH, LEBRON, DURANT the new 3kings until ZION
El Manyacko that's one of the misconceptions about Bird. The way he looked I'm sure made lots of people feel stupid when they played him. Being a play maker really had nothing to do with physical speed. Magic wasn't all that fast either. They just had superb vision
Celtics won 29 games the year before Bird. They won 61 his rookie year. Title in his 2nd. Is that “transformational”?
trha2222 That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all week, congrats!
trha2222 Loser.
@trha2222 Yes and most HS teams would beat Jordan and the Bulls from 1991. Come on!!
@trha2222 Rofl Where do you people come from..theres not a team in the league today that could have beaten the Celtics of the 80s.
@trha2222 And in 2048 every high school team will be able to beat this Warriors team. 🙈🙉🙊
How is magic transformational but Larry isnt that makes no sense they went back and forth in the 80s and Larry is the only player to win three straight mvps if magic is transformational then so is Larry
I'm pretty sure its not based on play, it's based on the perception the people have of them as all time greats
@@bluntsensei I think almost everyone has Larry bird in their top 10 and I'm sure people would call shaq a transformational player who's also a top 10 player so is Jim Jackson only considering top 5 players as transformational
@@TheInferno0099 the way he's wording it yeah only 3-5 players might actually deserve that transformational label
Magic was a 6'9 PG. That's why he's considered a transformational player. The league had never seen anything like him.
@@bluntsensei seems like it
look up transformational on wikipedia and you'll find footage of Larry Bird passing the ball like no other big man, nailing 3's like no other big man, and playing beautiful fundamentally sound basketball like few players ever have - he along with Magic completely transformed not only the NBA but the way everyone started to play by sharing the ball and playing smart
Those were the days. The best basketball I ever saw! Bird was probably one of the most intense athletes in any sport I've ever witnessed. You're 100%correct Magic and Bird changed the game for the better. Then the league ruined it with the whimpy game played today. I wonder how LeBron would have done with Bill Lambier leaning on him.
Niccolo Machiavelli MJ made iso ball a major thing and that has continued through to today, other players did it previously but he was the guy that cemented it into basketball culture
The “who’s team is this” rhetoric that exists pretty much comes from MJ being so dominant
Teams where much more unselfish with structured play and defined positions before MJ, MJ was the main ball handler and scorer to such a degree that it changed basketball and the way a lot of players since have played...
I think anyway 👍
Jim is confusing "dynamic personality" with "transformational player". Larry was never a handsome, social butterfly type who could dominate a room with his personality... but he an all-time killer on the court and MOST DEFINITELY transformed the game with his bball skills and iron will.
tclass99 Amen
Well put
Real talk
He also won NBA coach and executive of the year awards, so he had some other stuff going for him other than basketball skills.
Larry was cooking whoever.. Doc J sucker punched him because he was getting exposed
Jim Jackson is an embarrassment. Zero credibility. LeBron wishes he were as clutch as Larry Bird. Magic and Larry saved the NBA and this joker flat-out disrespects Bird? Jackson should be grateful he never had to guard Bird, because Larry Legend would have dropped 40+ on his arrogant arse.
He would have dropped 40 using only his left hand lol
Larry would still drop 40 on this fool.its cause Bird is white
Larry would be average in today's game. Slow as ice water.
@@praiseyahweh6159 yeah like jokic or doncic are average players now
Muckbio less yeah Larry was a monster in the hand check era, but he would be "average" in the era where you cant touch anybody. You're clearly very intelligent. (Sarcasm)
LeBron is transformational but not Larry Bird....Jim Jackson must be one of those fan boys KD was talking about....3X MVP, 2X FMVP, 3X NBA Champion, Rookie of the year, 50-40-90 club, 24, 10 and 6 career avg....Can't get any more transformational than that.
Don't get it twisted, LeBron is one of the most transformational players ever, almost Jordan-esque. Larry was transformational too, but not the way LeBron was.
Yea but Is anyone buying Larry's shoes??
@@cmoneyno5 That's where part of the problem starts and began . Taking nothing away from Jordan's greatness but there has probably never been a bigger beneficiary of a slew of perfect storms except maybe Ali but in a different way .
@@cmoneyno5 Nobody is talking shoes sales if was by that kyrie would be top 5 haha
It's more than just shoe sales too... I used shoe sales as an opening premise.... Bird's persona and energy is what Jim Jackson was alluding to not his basketball accumen
Twitter was named after Larry Bird!!! That's so transformational I can't see straight!!! (It's true, look it up)
LOL@Bird wasn't a transformational player. Oh really? Let's see, before Bird, what other forward was known as a "point forward' in the NBA? NO ONE. But Bird became that player. Before Bird, what other forward could pass like he could? NO ONE. But Bird was also that player. The year before Bird arrived in Boston, the Celtics had the NBA's SECOND WORST RECORD. After Bird's rookie year with more-or-less the same team, Boston was TRANSFORMED into having the LEAGUE'S BEST RECORD (an NBA-best 32 W-L differential).
Larry Bird was the EPITOME of a transformational player.
Actual James Worthy was called a point forward by Brett Musburger that's who started the point forward phrase
K Adams lmfao no, bird was an mvp worthy’s rookie year.
1st EVER 50-40-90 and he did it twice
Larry is not a transformational player ? What !!. Rookie bird turned the Celtics 29-53 to a 61-21 winning team. Bird won 3 consecutive mvps. Was the best player in his prime in the 80’s and yeah better than Magic. But yeah is not transformational...
Um I wouldnt say better than Magic. It's very close but the 5 titles vs 3 swing it in Magic favor.
Marquis Caston I mean magic play with 3 other number one overall pick and probably the greatest center ever. And don’t forget that the western conference was not that good in the 80’s bro so that was more easy for him to go in the finals and win because he have not to play all time team like the 76 sixers of dr.j and Moses, The bad boys pistons, bulls team on the rise with MJ, Cleveland with price and daughtery or the hawks of Dominique so that was more easy to win in the finals because they didn’t have to play against this kind of team before. But I still think that magic is greater than bird because like you say he has 5 rings. What I trying to say in my last post was that prime bird was better than prime Magic but of course that’s arguable.
Yea that was silly bird is a transformational player. A top 10 player for sure but not a top 5 player. He wasn’t that athletic and didn’t really have a personality off the court. That’s probably what he means.
Justin Dminic no he means that bird is not a transformational player like MJ, Magic and lebron because according to Jackson is not on that caliber.
Yvans Kareem and Magic are better than Bird.
Larry Bird Legend Held His Own. Respect One Bad Man Tough As Nails. Clutch Shooters. Top Five In My Era
I'm a 70's Baby. Celtics Nation. 33
Larry Bird:
-The first stretch 4. He invented it, literally.
-Without Bird and magic, the NBA would not exist. Get that? The NBA would be bankrupt. No Michael,no Kobe,no lebron,no Garnett,no Hakeem, lol the list goes on and on.
- The only white guy in the top 10 all time players. He's in the top 5 all time with anyone with knowledge of the NBA, and basketball in general.
The NBA would be in mighty fine position if lets say LeBron played in the 70s/80s
You're probably right. Before Magic and Bird the NBA was a fringe league looking for an identity. Those two and their rivalry brought it into the mainstream and laid the foundation for it's future success. If they hadn't come along when they did who knows where the NBA would be today.
Please it was Larry NOT Magic just what the league needed another GreaT BlacK player'
Jim Jackson you gotta take some time off man. I really can't put up with the BLASPHEMY that came out of your mouth.
Kenyon Martin is 100 right great talent but did transform the game...
Facts Larry bird not transformational wtf you gots to be kidding Larry and magic saved the n.b.a..They weren't putting any n.b.a games on t.v until bird magic came through.The n.b.a was a dying product ugh.These young dudes are killing me.
Check what Kd just said about this Lebron media just recently and refer back to what he said.
OK OK STEPHEN A SMITH
He's a bum anyway.
Bird in his prime - between 1982-1987, may have been the GOAT. His career was cut short by his awful back problems, but his stats were better then Lebron's.
And diving for all those loose balls, taking hard fouls, etc..
@T Dillinger lebron isn't anywhere near the goat. If bird forced teams to play him at point guard in the lebron james system so he could accumulate statistics to trick people into thinking he's the greatest birds numbers would have been ridiculous. LeBron CANT play in an offensive system that isn't his offensive system
@T Dillinger My top 3 is 1. MJ 2. Lebron 3. Bird. If you factor in longevity tho I can see putting a guy like kareem ahead but to me those are the 3 best most impactful players ever. Bird edges magic too for me cause of him being more complete as a player.
Until 88, he was 2nd in mvp in 88, people also forget.
That’s the problem though Bird’s prime was only five years. LeBron has been the best player in the league for at least 10-15 years. That’s why he has easily surpassed Bird as the greatest SF ever.
Jackson talks about aura in a room. Remember what Isaiah said... “if you put Magic, Jordan, Bird and Isaiah in a room, Bird would probably be the guy who walks out of the room at the end of the day”. Ask all the greatest players whether Bird was transformational. I know what they’d say.
Those who played with and against Larry know exactly how good he was and Larry would let you know how good he was. He was the biggest trash talker out there when he was playing.
Nice!! Great job!! I was gonna point that out thst quite too
Michael Jordan was oh for six against Larry Bird never beat them in the playoffs. Does the best player ever I disagree with this commentary
This proves Jim Jackson doesn't know basketball.
arthurleme im sure he knows more then us lol
@@raymondbrockett8727 Speak For Yourself *ba dum tss*
Yet he managed to play in the NBA for 14 years 🤔
Jim jackson was the leader of the mavericks with mashburn and jason kidd... It was jim jackson who led the team
Never even heard of him. 🤷♂️
Isaiah Thomas said it best. Put Jordan magic bird and him in room. Bird would be walking out room at end of day
Larry Bird once walked in a locker room full of three-point shootout participants, stared at everybody, then said: "I'm just looking around to see who's gonna finish 2nd." Every single person in the room fell silent. One of those people was Craig Hodges, who still holds the record for most makes in a round and most consecutive shots made.
Isnt that from the same year he didnt even bother taking off his jacket and still won the contest?
@@donovanmccat7254 He only took off his jacket in his first 3pt contest. So most likely, yes. Not sure about his loss in 1990 though.
@@donovanmccat7254 yes correct and threw up the Deuce after lol but somehow he ain't transformational doe smh
At one point during those contests, he even banked a three just to amuse himself. The announcer then exclaimed "Oh, give me a break, Larry!"
jp3813 he participated in 3 and won 3
Dey trippin on Bird frfr. Larry was a once in a lifetime player
someone may wanna remind him that Larry's the main reason Michael didn't get to the finals til his seventh season, his colleagues scarcastic laughter at him says it all
The Bulls were stopped by the Pistons in Jordan's 5th and 6th seasons.
Let’s not forget Isaiah. He won back to back titles and if not for BIRD, he’d have a couple more. Jordan never beat Bird and took him years to beat Isaiah.
Jordan went 0 for 6 against Bird in the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@sas6561 You're right on that point.
Larry Bird is the only person Jordan never won a game against in the playoffs Larry swept him twice and if you look at history Larry Bird is the only person to beat every single superstar in his time Jordan can't even say that because he never beat Larry when all the money was on the line and I think Jordan was the greatest ever then bird
Please man. Jimmy Jackson is a know nothing who never was. Bird would've dropped 40 on him in 3 quarters then relaxed on his back with Gatorade towel.
The concept of using a tall efficient long range shooter to spread the floor was a direct result of Larry Bird's play. He literally has had an influence on how the game is played for decades. LeBron and KD are two different evolutions of the influence Bird had on the game.
And to an extend Steph Curry as well except that Bird had even more tools in his belt than curry, lebron, or kd
Dave Charland ok you have a bunch of knives, machetes, swords, blades, I have a single gun I’m still more dangerous than you.
mrslash blade Bird was better than steph and kd.
Human Effigy he’s not better than Lebron
mrslash blade at his peak he was, he just didn’t have the longevity of lebron.
I sure hope Bill Simmons doesn’t see this video. He might have a heart attack.
He would have a lot to say.
LOLOLOLOL facts brodie 💯
I'm sure you didn't
Stephen a smith loved it though.just saying
Bird led the Celtics to the biggest turn around in nba history his rookie year. If that isnt transformational im not sure what is. Jim Jackson keeps saying his definition of transformational might be different to others but id say that stat alone makes what he is saying objectively wrong. It's crazy how older players get more and more slept on...
Lost all respect for Jim Jackson after watching this. I will never listen to any of his takes. He just ruined the show. They need to get rid of him ASAP.
I understand slipping and giving a dumb take, but he doubled down.
Yeah you right Jimmy is full of shot
It's all subjective who cares.
Explain how Larry Bird was transformational. He was a great player...He did not transform the game...If he did give some examples.
@@sherrodmacs3472 if u don't know, then u don't have a grasp of the history of the NBA & basketball in general.
Merry Christmas!
They hating cause the legendary bird is white 🤦🏻♂️. Come on now! Simple as that. If it wasn’t for that man and Magic the league wouldn’t have been saved.
false
Lamont Jackson true
Omg get outta here with your tears, this has nothing to do with that and you know it
Im white, and this is why i hate whites, because we think we have a RIGHT to be in absolutely everything because of oir own insecurities. Nobody whines more than a white man with his candy taken away
@@8033jack Naw they are. Theyre being racist. 😂😂
Not understanding Jackson's point about Bird. Clearly he has a different definition of transformational. Lol
As the conversation continued I began to think he might not know what "transformational" means. Like a kid that heard a big word he likes.
@@thanksfernuthin Haha
His very own and stupid definition...
Yeah, he's basically saying you need a shoe deal and glitzy glamorous attention whoring.
I think he just went nuts.
@@kvltizt Even then that's strange though since Bird was a notable figure throughout the world. My own mom who doesn't even come from this America said Bird was her favorite player growing up. It's just weird he says that when his significance was pivotal in basketball.
Jim Jackson is off on this one.
Jackson talking absolute rubbish. Bird transformed the Celtics from a poor team at the end of the 70s to a 3-time champion within 6 years! And he had a big influence on transforming the league in the early 80s. There has not been a player more transformational than Larry
Kenyon “know what I’m sayin” Martin
lol
lololol love it
Yeah, I was just watching him as a guest on The Herd, and noticed how many times he says that...So I was like "let's see how many times he says it here". And he does so in the first sentence. 😂🤣
@ In other words, he doesn't mimic an articulate white guy enough for you?
😂
Boston year before Larry Bird drafted - 29 wins
Boston after Larry Bird's rookie year - 61 wins
Argument that Larry Legend wasn't a transformational player - ethered
AMEN!!!
Sorry Jim
When Larry magic enter the league the NBA Finals was being showed on tape delay after the after the late night news. Michael finished the NBA's Ascension but Larry Bird and Magic Johnson started it and built the foundation!
Jim Jackson is done...... ..lmfao!...................I'll never respect his opinion again.
If I get 4 snacks we have a deal.
Larry Legend is a better small forward than queen James.
Aegon Targaryen seriously he was, and he’s a better passer than LeBron whilst not enforcing the system LeBron does. He played offball.
the 2016 Finals proves your completely wrong... Bird in no way was a better defender or passer then Bron quit lying to yourself..
Bird and Kobe not transformational?? Please!! Jim Jackson doesn’t know what he’s talking about!!
Kobe isn't be because hes a copy MJ. He didn't transform what Mike already accomplished. kobe and all the other wing players to date wanted to be like Mike. Curry is transformational becuase errbody wanna shoot like Curry. No one is looking for the next MJ any longer..whos the next Curry? Trae Young. Or whos the next KD/AD/Greak freak player, if Jordan is to surpass as GOAT it will one of those type of guys - BTW Lebron's ship has already sailed.
Lebron is transformational becuase weve never seen a player at his size and athleticism and skills.
See to be transformational, see you have to be the first of your generation to inspire others to pattern their after yours!
Not too many say Elgin Baylor was transformational, although he is an all-time great. Guys in early 70's where not inspired. . Dr J. is somewhat transformational becuase he really was the first ultra athletic wing player. People link MJ to the Doctor. MJ's game was far more evolved though
Kobe is definitely not, but bird is 100 %
Kobe was an inefficient volume scorer who rode the backs of Shaq and the twin towers to 5 rings. I guess he was perfect for the shining lights of LA where casual fans and TV contracts are aplenty and 34 points with 10 of 26 from the field goes unnoticed but looking through any advanced stats he isn't a TOP 30 player alltime. For SG I would take prime DWADE or GLIDE anyday over this hack.
I never been a Kobe fan, but I respect his game, true, Kobe copied MJ, so maybe y’all right, he’s not transformational.
Kobe wasn't tranformational. 😂
Jim Jackson throwing racial shade on Larry Bird!!! This man needs to get educated or fired. Both.
I didn't hear him say anything racial.
Jim Jackson you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
Larry Bird not transformational? That's inconceivable!
ESPN is in Lebron's pocket, KD needs to pay Fox, Curry gets BR, Westbrook gets Complex 😂😂😂
No, your wrong.
Fox is Lebron because of Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe and Colin Cowherd.
Vinh Tran 👌
@@vangm05 yup
@trha2222 where was this "ice-cold" before he joined a 73 win team that were champions before he ever got there 😂😂😂. He wasn't ice cold when LeBron was spanking him every year before he got 2 Golden State 😂😂
He's not called Larry the legend for nothing.
The greatest to ever put on a Celtics uniform if not the greatest foward in nba history!!!
Larry Bird & Magic saved the NBA. If that's not transformational, I don't know what is.
Transformational, as in the whole business was "market-ably" changed after Magic & Bird came into the NBA. During the mid-1970s, even with great players like Dr J, the NBA was not selling out arenas or doing that well in TV sponsorship. After Magic & Bird came into the league, the NBA began its transformation into a marketing juggernaut. Then Jordan took it to a whole different level. The "One on One" video game wasn't until 1983, well after the Magic/Bird era was underway (and while Michael was still playing college ball).
Not a myth, David stem himself said the league was going out of business, it wasn't until Magic and Bird came on the scene that people actually cared about basketball and started buying tickets and watching the games on TV
@trajan hercules aaaaaand you know nothing about the magic bird era. You're dismissed
Larry Bird is definitely transformational. So is Lebron... Wade was a champion and gave his power as the #1 option to Lebron to help him cope...Similar to how they credit curry with empowering Durant. Wade did that for Lebron. Wade in his prime was top notch.
Wade's injury also had to do that. his body would no longer let him lead the way he could
@@str8duval wrong
@@dceltics2461 right
Wonder what Magic thinks of Jackson’s comments? Guessing he would completely disagree with his statement, which wasn’t thought out by the way.
Larry not transformational...lol. Michael Jordan couldn't make it through the finals until Larry retired
Stop talking idiot
Larry Bird not transformational? JJ what are you smoking?!? Larry Bird was a 24 year old rookie that transformed the Power Forward position. Immediate Impact on the league. scared the entire league and out played teams purely on intelligence and basketball smarts. JJ you're slipping!
Listen Jim Jackson shame on you. All that horseshit about Larry Bird not getting respect walking into a room with other legends: UA-cam is filled with interviews of Dr J, Sir Charles, MJ, Magic, Isiah, Dominique etc. saying that he wasn't just respected he was FEARED and HATED because he was a cold blooded killer. That mullethead didn't care about fame or money only thing he cared was not losing and he was willing to rip the heart of your chest to achieve that. I must applaud these other commentators noticing the blatant racism of this fool. Rings don't know color. PS. I bet you would have liked to have Larry Legend in Dallas setting you up for easy baskets and your stats would be borderline respectable.
The best thing that happened to Jordan was Birds retirement.
No, the best thing that happened for MJ was the Pistons losing players to free agency and expansion and Bird suffering that back injury.
Bird was finished by the time Jordan took over the league the mans back was done
LeN mC thats pretty much my point. MJ couldn’t get to the finish line thru Boston till Bird was done.
Larry Bird will always have its non-believers, haters since the beginning of time....but they made them eat their words..
1976-1979---Bird went to Indiana U but Coach Knight snubbed him thinking he was too slow and just a mediocre talent......the results he went to Indiana state and led the Sycamores to 33-0 record and went to the NCAA Finals . First meeting with Magic and Bird. Bird avg a mind boggling 30 pts a game and 13 rebounds a game...whew
1979 and the NBA pros---again people doubted him. Even the great Jerry West said that Bird will just be an average player like 14 ppts a game, 6 rebs per game...He is simply too slow and cant jump
The results---Bird went to give the Celtics its biggest turnaround in 79-80(without Mchale and Parish) with 20 games win and went on to East finals capturing Rookie of the year.
---he went to grab 3 mvps, 2 finals MVP, all star MVP, 3 time 3 point shoot out champio, 50 40 90 club..made the winning basket, stole the ball to preserve the win, made a comeback in the 3rd Q, trash talk the opponent.... etc etc...
Today's people---they still doubt he could play today...Well if Bird played today, I wouldn't be surprised he would average 30, 15, 7....He has superior basketball IQ, he will find a way to adjust and adapt.....
When your a great player, your a great player.,.... it doesn't matter what era you play....just like Russell, Kareem, MJ, and Magic--great players are great---no matter what time you played at...
wrong!!!! bird left Indiana before the start of the 1975 season, he was there 2weeks and he couldn't handle the size of bloomington
@@paul-egz4264 ok will not argue with you on that...but Coach Knight did give Bird the cold shoulder..It was one of the reasons he left IU...Well anyway, peace bro.. happy new year
@@DCdc-rn8sz no he didn't, he gave bird a full ride scholarship to the best program in college basketball, bird was a social worm from the wrong side of the tracks, he was overwhelmed by 30,000 kids who didnt relate to him because he was raised below poverty and he got seriously homesick
@Wally Reyes nobody knows who the greatest boxer of all time is, there's too many great ones from the past
Yes ... Bird all time great in any and all eras.... Bob knight did not have anything to do with Bird transferring from IU to Indiana State.. He wanted to feature bird and saw him as a transformational talent.... Bird got intimidated by the kids with money and the atmosphere. And got homesick and went home.....
why is his argument Bird doesn't have an aura around him lol ... what does that have to do with how transformational Larry Bird was? he sounds like a fool or a hater not sure which.
History has dubbed him Larry Legend. Nuff said.
Jim Jackson was on some of the worst Mav teams to ever exist .. this is a clear cut white vs black. Black players hate and are jealous of Larry bird .
Sorry, as soon as you start talking about intangible things like "aura" and "feelings", you can not be taken seriously. Larry Bird and Magic transformed the game by pushing eachother. Just like Curry's Warriors are pushing the rest of the league by dominating from the perimeter.
Larry Bird carried a 29 win Celtics to a 60 win season, single handedly .. not transformational ... Lebron gave a tanked Cavs 18 win improvement. Transformational lol 😂
Larry Bird was LeBron James B4 LeBron James!
MoXy lebron is more athletic and better defender but Larry was a better shooter, rebounder and also passer (yeah I say that).
Agreed@ MoXy
And even better than lebron
What ? No he wasn't
@@yvans. Larry was an equally good on ball defender. I agree with your other points.
To quote Magic Johnson....”Larry bird was the only person I feared” “he was so good it’s frightening” Isiah Thomas -“if you put me Jordan, Magic in a room...Larry would probably be the one who walks outta the room”
Jim Jackson tripping about Bird!
LARRY BIRD IS THE BOSTON CELTICS THAT DUDE IS ICONIC BASKETBALL PLAYER TRANSFORMATION INDEED IN THE MIDWEST LARRY BIRD IS SUPREME.
Much respect for. Larry. And. I'm black. Bad dude.
Larry Legend. Legends never die unlike kings. Ask peers of Bird how bad he really was. People like Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Cooper, Dominique, Dr. J, and even the punk Isaiah. Ask Pat Reilly. Jackson’s has no concept of the past and the greatness Of Larry. Simply, the best ever.
Jim missed me with that Larry Bird take. Larry Bird and Magic were 1 and 2 from college days.
Let’s see is this fellow Jackson in the Hall of Fame? When we say Jimmy Jackson I have to look them up, when we said Larry bird I don’t have to read about him I don’t have to watch a video I don’t have to hear someone tell me about the stats, he is a legend not only in his own time but throughout the NBA history
In the 80s magic had the better team the only reason the Celtics competed was because of bird and how he made everyone better.
Jim Jackson is tripping. Bird is in the same category as Magic and MJ.
Jam 28 nobody is MJ level, but Magic and Bird are the top two after.
Nobody is in MJs category. There's only one. Bird and Magic took NBA out of tape delay to prine time TV and big contracts. They started the game on the road to global popularity that MJ, Kobe and LBJ have elevated it to. They r transformational. Dr. J is in that category too coming out of the ABA. Magic only surpassed Bird by becoming a mogul. In their careers they were pretty equal as far as "transformational"...and I'm a So Cal Lakers fan who hated the Celtics growing up. Can't change history.
Jim Jackson killed the Mavs when he was there. Not he shows, He knows NOTHING about this on Larry Bird!
Magic is my all time favorite player and probably athlete of all time. But even I must say that both him Bird were transformational in the sense that one changed the guard position and one changed the forward position. I think from the stand point of Birds ability that one pass and shoot had never been seen before and Magics ability to play point guard at his size as well as his ability to play multiple positions.
+trajan hercules Much like Magic there was never forward that put it all together like Bird. I know people will say that LeBron is greatest passing forward of all time however I think you can make a really good case that Bird was just a great passer. That be an area where he was clearly transformational. I ask this tell me one forward that came before Larry Bird who could pass the ball like him?
@trajan hercules "I played against George Gervin, Dr. J., Michael Jordan, some of the best players that have ever played this game, but Larry Bird would have to be the best." - Michael Cooper
"He is nearly as perfect as you can get in every phase of basketball." - Jerry West
"Look in his eyes, you see a killer." - Dominique Wilkens
"If you put all of us in a room, you know, Magic, Jordan, myself, and Bird...Bird probably be the guy who walks out of the room at the end of the day." - Isiah Thomas
"I will say, as the years go on, people really forgot how great Larry Bird was. And I grew up in L.A., just like everyone else here, hating his guts. Dude, the guy was just money." - Kobe Bryant
"Regular guy that could do everything...you know I thought most of what he did was luck, but as I got older and kept watching, I just knew that it was skill." - Shaq
"If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; if I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life...I'd take Larry Bird." - Pat Riley
*Who are these players you say were like Bird- before Bird played?*
Bird is the all time greatest player above James ..u tripin. Magic even said he was the best ever. Bird holds records james will never touch..
More assits more points more MVPS what???
Larry was one of the true greats - up there with MJ and Magic. Probably the most “crafty” and possessing more court vision than anyone, ever. If he wasn’t limited by his athleticism, he would be the GOAT, no question - but that has to go to MJ by a “smidge”, because he was just so superior as an athlete.
When Bird was in his prime, and was on the court, people were thinking two things, “what’s Larry doing?” , and “what is Larry going to do?”
Jim Jackson is out to lunch - truly. Bird and Magic MADE THE NBA mainstream.
The only way Jordan became a transformational player was when Larry and Magic retired. Jordan couldn't beat Larry on the court, and when Bird was a coach, Jordan struggled against the Pacers.
Jim Jones is tripping straight up
My man. I’d take bird every day over lebron I’m gonna get tough defense and awesome offense
This is one of my favorite clips ever!! Jim Jackson never repeated this stupidity ever again. At least no publicly
My God, Larry schooled MJ, he schooled everybody. There has yet to be a player as skilled as Larry Bird. Period
Jackson is FOS. Transformational? Bird and Magic saved the NBA
Larry Bird would have lit LeBron up and would have spanked Durant.
Larry Legend all day long. That fool be trippin'
He was every bit the transformational player. You didn't see guys that were 6'9" (some say he was closer to 6'10") that had the all around offensive game like that at the time. Shooting, passing, ball handling, rebounding, playing in the post, etc. Magic was a transformational player as well, but was an average at best long range shooter until the end of his career.
After these guys came into the league you started seeing more high school players that where 6'7" or taller that had that all around game like Benji Wilson, Marcus Liberty, Lloyd Daniels, etc. Also have to remember that the NBA 3-point line was introduced in 1979 so the concept of the player as tall as Bird who could play both inside and long range was really a foreign one, especially since the NCAA 3-point line wasn't introduced until 1986 and high schools didn't use a 3-point line until 1987.
Bird didn't play quite like the all-around players after him and what you see from big men today in the sense he lacked the vertical leap. He had better foot speed than given credit for, but he wasn't nearly as fast as the players are today. I think that's where Jackson may be confusing Bird's influence on the game, but the concept of being able to play on the post and from long range, creating matchup problems and being able to take advantage of that for his teammates' benefit with his ballhandling and passing (along with his rebounding)...yeah...he was about as transformational of a player as the game has ever witnessed.
Larry The Legend had the opposite sides teams fallen off the end of their benches when Bird came down to their end of the court and performed his magic that nobody else could stop or touch and in other games would destroy an entire bench of defenders. I just wish they'd a been mic up. I'd like to have heard what they were saying. Transformational uh Bird took a last place team to first place in his first year then took them to a championship his second year and never looked back as a player among also-rans.
I like the two guys in the middle lmao he was like wtf
Larry legend win 3 NBA championships against a team that had magic Kareem worthy and great role players
And if he didn't have back problems he could have played a lot better.
@@joshuamcneely3028 yes also he hurt his finger bad in college and he said his shot cudda been even better in the pros . Larry was like watching pirlo play soccer just a natural , no athletic ability just all skill feel and heart of a lion him and Stockton greatest white players ever
2 of those were against the Houston Rockets that had Moses Malone in '81 & Ralph Sampson / Hakeem Olajuwon in '86. Back in Larry's day, the Eastern Conference was considered much stronger than the West. The 76ers were monsters for most of the 80s, the Hawks & Bucks were consistently strong, and the Pistons really started to gather steam in the mid 80s.
@@MrDevtun I know my NBA history is was talking about 3 in the same era as great Lakers team
@@footballbabybaby - ok, cheers.
If you saw Larry Bird play in person, many times like I have, you would reallize how vastly superior he was to everyone else on the court. Not only was he the best pure shooter...his will to win,confidence, tenacity, court vision, use of both hands was leaps and bounds better then anyone. This man is indeed top5 to ever play with ease. Not even debatable.
Jimmy Jackson is crazy 😂😂😂 larry bird is legendary he wishes he can be like larry bird 🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦
Ask Magic Johnson and Kareem . They have both gone on the record calling Bird the one of the baddest guys out there EVER. Pat Riley said ""If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life...I'd take Larry Bird." I'll listen to them 10 times out of 10 before Jim Jackson.
I can't stop laughing!!! This Jim is talkin out his arse!!! Too funny. He needs to have a chat with some Hall of Famers to get his facts straight.
I love their reaction when he tried to diss bird 😂😂😂😂😂
Larry Bird transformed the NBA. Period.
And Larry Bird could do everything Magic could do, plus some more.
Look at all the stories out there about players from the past. Not many, if any player, has as many stories told about them as Larry Bird.
Larry Bird transformed Indiana State and then he transformed the Celtics and the NBA.
Did the aura change when Larry Bird came into the locker room before the first 3-point constest, quietly looked at everybody and finally said, "I'm just looking to see who will come in second."? I can guarantee you it changed. Big time.
We're talking about a player who made Magic (and other players) sleepless. A player who were feared by other players who feared no other player but Bird. A player who at least one player (according to his testimony) was "praying" that the coach wouldn't put him back in the game because he didn't want to be more humiliated by Bird outplaying him.
Larry Bird transformed trashtalk. He got into other players' heads by intimidating them. He said beforehand what he was going to do and then backed it up by doing it. Every time (almost).
And Larry Bird transformed the NBA by showing that tall guys could be fatastic shooters.
Bird won the 3-point contest 3 years in a row.
Bird won the MVP 3 years in a row.
Bird was the first NBA player ever to have a 50-40-90 season.
And, if nothing else, Larry Bird was transformational because he did all this and was white. The black players were in awe. They were being bested by a "white boy". Some of them couldn't quite accept that and tried to downplay Bird (e.g. Dennis Rodman and Isaiah Thomas).
To say that Larry Bird wasn't transformational is ridiculous. No player who played with Larry, or against Larry, will ever say that (if they're being honest).
If Larry Bird doesn't qualify for your list with transformational players then nobody else will qualify either.
And just look at his nickname "Larry Legend". When were a non-transformational player ever given such a nickname? And that nickname was given to Bird while he was still playing.
Bird might have been the best clutch player ever and that's why Pat Riley said that he would want Larry Bird to take the shot if Riley's life was on the line. For an opposing coach to say that is high praise. Very high. Trasformational player? You bet.
Magic said Bird was so good it was frightening. A non-tansformational player would never be talked about in such a way.
Larry Bird might have been the most transformational player ever.
Jim Jackson on something with those comments..
Well, Bird wasn't as good as Jordan or Magic or LeBron, but he's still an all-time great and a transformational player. What was the NBA like in Bird's rookie season? The finals were on tape delay and half the players were coked out of their minds.
Does this fool not remember who Larry bird was? Cant take Jim seriously after that take.
Sandernista it’s his opinion. Hes speaking to elite people who transcend eras and time which is why he said what he did. Bird is a legend but people clearly don’t get or understand transcendent
deciuswtasby who was the first 50-40-90 player ?
@@deciuswtasby
Larry bird was one of the first guys to be that tall and be able to shoot from all over the court and he was also his teams primary playmaker. He was lebron before lebron, you clearly dont understand what transcendent means. I'd rather listen to the opinion of players that went up against Bird than a clown that was on 15 teams in his career.
Sandernista I don’t think anyone is debating that but people are worked up over his “opinion” based on your logic someone would rather listen to someone who played in the NBA vs a casual fan who never saw greatness face to face. Bird was great and that’s not gonna change but you clearly see that man has his opinion and you have yours 😂🤷🏾♂️
Benjamin Franklin I’m not sure why you’re trying to convince me lol. All I said was JJ feels the way he feels and you can disagree with his statement but it’s his opinion and he played for a very long time in the NBA and has seen many things so it is what it is
Lmao....... gotta love it when it someone is so jealous of another player that he makes a fool out of himself in front of 300K+ ppl!
Watch your language.
It could easily be argued that magic and bird are the most transformational players ever. At least both in the top 5. Their rivalry saved the nba lol.
O...................M....................G.....................Never, in the history of EVER, has someone said that Bird is NOT a transformational player. And never, in the history of EVER, has anyone thought that Bird does NOT belong in the same sentence as Jordan. I don't remember any stories of Jordon walking into a room full of all-stars and asking them which one was going to come in second place???? I don't remember ANY stories of Jordan telling his opponent how and when he was going to make the next basket, only to get the ball and do EXACTLY what he said he was going to do!
Being a great great player doesn't necessary equate to transformational - a transformational player shifts the entire league's play structure. The two that immediately come to mind is Shaq and Jordan. I don't know if Bird changed how coaches and players approached the game once he hit his peak, I don't know much about the league back then; but the fact that he is one of the only two players that EVERYONE is familiar with from the 80s NBA - Bird and Magic... says a lot.