How Jordan could fast for 8 years if he already was 2 rings and 2 FMVPs after 8 years. My thing is if guys like Shannon gonna discredit the man at least get the information right
@@markgraves2192We all know LeBron is human and have his ups and downs, but Jordan fans act like he was a God that couldn't lose when mattered. The people are just trying to prove Jordan fans that he was mortal by bringing up how he got swept alot in the 1st round etc in the 80s. Bron wasn't getting swept in no 1st round, he made a finals in his second post season appearance. Bron fans just want everyone to know MJ is not as perfect as many thinks he is.
Shannon basically told on himself when he said that Lebron signed it in blood because Lebron sold his soul to the devil. Lebron also is a part of the Illuminati and killed Kobe because Lebrons legacy was not as great as Kobes so I'm not surprised at all
Exactly! This is what Skip never understood and that’s why his best on air counterpart walked away. Even while SAS is yelling his points you can see how much he was enjoying this “argument”. That makes it so much fun to watch. Skip’s GOAT debates used to make me cringe and I usually turned the station or fast forwarded when he was getting disrespectful and personal.
@@MunnaWill07 He definitely did what he could but Lebron dropped 40 just last year against the Nuggets in year 20 and got blamed for getting swept 😂. Same when he dropped 50 against the Warriors.
The main issue with these debates is whatever side you're arguing for people tend to try to diminish the other side to make their side seem better, even if it's not intended it comes off that way EVERYTIME
SAS clearly lost this one.Jordan wasnt a god and didn't win a single playoff series without Phil or Pippen. Thats just bad. He had a winning percent of 10%
1:15 SAF breaking out into impersonating UNC and Perks face is GOLD.....GOOOOOLLDD hahahaha 😂😂😂 And the RED comment at 5:35 😂😂😂😂 These barbershop brothers...I'm here for it. Protect this trio at ALL COSTS!!
@@raymondknight5931 I was no older than 11 when it came out & my pops rented it from our local video gallery. Blew my mind & got me into dystopian science fiction novels, shows and movies. They tried a tv show that was after the events of the movie and I was so disappointed lol
Bro the media ran with this question. All bird was saying was appreciate the greatness of Lebron and he’s in the conversation for the greatest ever. That’s it.
@@BigstickNick" Breaking news, who has the better chance of winning against this incoming asteroid? Who will 'Space Jam' this asteroid and save Earth? History shows on the Grand Stage of performance, MJ's perfect NBA Finals record 6 of 6, will be this asteroids, Last Dance. On the other side, LBJ knew this asteroid was a threat and will make 'The Decision' to take his talents to team up with the USAF's Space Force and show that Asteroid whose the King, LBJ's odds are 4-10. Who will be the Greatest of Asteroids Taker-outters!?
The reason why Larry will always be my top 5 personally is because Larry attitude was pitch perfect. You can’t get better going into a Locker Room saying “Alright who’s winning second place?” In a 3 point contest n wearing warm up clothing in it 😂💀
Man.. Both players are all time great and very blessed to see both of them play... This should be on ESPN classic i cant stop laughing this was the best mj, bron debate ever
Larry Bird is a humble legend that appreciates talent. Hate or love him, LeBron has been dedicated and still working hard after playing 20 seasons. Very impressive. 😊
@@Righteousgeniuswhy is that a bad thing? Would u rather first take not talk about Larry bird comment ? If u think Lebron the goat why would u be mad they’re putting this on tv? Now Larry is saying everyone considers lebron either top 3 or the goat which is true
Those Celtics teams 86,87,88 were legendary teams. HALL OF FAMERS at every position. Jordan didn't even have another Allstar on the team. Larry was supposed to be 6-0.
This is definitely the best debate for this subject ESPN has had, instead of comparing jordan/lebron to 2016-2017 warriors, digging deeper and comparing what is a more difficult, playing the 2007 spurs or 80s pistons/Celtics, for the first time in my life I am stumped
Tim Duncan and Spurs were on a run but you're right 80s Piston & Celtics are also dynasty teams too. That one will have to be truly debated and dissected but if I was a betting man, I don't know if I could bet against Spurs but then again how can I bet against Pistons or Celtics, you're right I'm stumped too😂
It really depends on which rules we're playing under. The way the Pistons played defence in the 80s was outlawed in the 90s, let alone the 2000s. Not to mention people forget there was no zone defence before 01', so just based on that, we'd have to say the 07' Spurs were the best team defensively just based on the experience they have running zones, not to mention the length and size they had. Based on personnel, the 86' Celtics were probably the best team on offence with Prime Larry and co. but overall, I'd say the Spurs dynasty Lebron had to overcome was greater than the Celtics or Pistons dynasty. The longevity and basketball they played were absolutely phenomenal, just watch them play in 07' vs 13-14', two very different styles but mastered both, that versatility alone makes me think the Spurs were tougher to get through.
@@Roxas-ph3te That's probably the biggest thing when it comes to the Spurs. To me Tim Duncan is highly underrated when it comes to people mentioning adaptability and being able to win in every decade he played in with the leagues playing style changing probably more than any other era. Late 90s, 2000s, 2010s. In 2010s alone, the league changed at least 3 times. I would probably pick the Spurs to win too. I think people are waiting to say Pop got lucky though but if he wins again with Wemby, it's a wrap. Even if he gets close, there's nothing else that could be said.
@@Roxas-ph3te Yeah that's valid, pistons likely wont win unless it's 80s rules, and honestly a young ginobili is going to match if not be a bigger threat than everybody on the celtics besides bird without even mentioning tim duncan or parker, but then again nobody is going to just go out there and smoke a 1986 bird idc who you are, but i could see 07 spurs coming on top after a hard fought win, definitely took a while to find an answer for this one
@hakshustletv Agreed. Really just depends on how long Pop wants to coach, I have no doubts that if the Spurs draft well over the next couple of years, which they usually do, sign a big free agent and make some good trades they can make it back to the finals.
Bruh, have you watched Undisputed this seaaon? Skip hardly criticizes Bron anymore. He gets overwhelmed by Keyshawn and Sherm's Bron fanboyism. Skip is a super liberal, he's backing Bron more now.
@@kohsmoger1567 I know. Skip used to be Bron's biggest critic. However, he knows which way the wind blows, and he's jumping on that super libtard express that ESPN runs. The sports media is mostly left leaning, so LeBron is their poster boy. They have to continue to push Bron's phoney GOAT case. They have bigger political plans for LeBron James. ESPN uses LeBron's "Social Change Internet personality" as a type of criteria for his phoney GOAT case. When it just comes to their basketball careers, Bron has absolutely no case for GOAT over MJ. Great longevity doesn't beat a great long prime full of three-peats.
The fact they just spent 10 minutes talking bout Ben Wallace is crazy. The 2007 pistons didn’t have Ben anymore. That was the Chris Webber and Mcdyss version of the team. The best defensive version of the pistons in that era was 2004 through 2005 season
2004,2005,2003 were fantastic defensively plus 2007 they got more offense with webber buy not the sam defense 2004,2005 are better defensively than any bad boy era prince,and the Wallace and Billups were to versatile in any position compare with the piston also probably the best coach ever Larry brown
Did somebody even watch Bird, Reggie and Isiah talk? They werent making any list or whatever, more they were saying that people are bias naming their eras and players from their eras as the best ever.
2 dark brothers calling me red.. imma look red beside y'all anyway🤣🤣🤣This debate was 10× more competitive than the all-star game last night smh..."The man fasted for 8 years, he didn't eat anything" 😂😭😂😭"It's written in blood" dude Shannon is killing me This debate will never end 😂Skip was sick to his stomach seeing Bird say that. Perk at the end saying “And they might not leave” lol😂😂😂😂1:15 SAF breaking out into impersonating UNC and Perk's face is GOLD.....GOLD hahahaha 😂😂😂 And the RED comment at 5:35 😂😂😂😂 These barbershop brothers...I'm here for it. Protect this trio at ALL COSTS!! Today was the day Stephen A. almost lost all of the rest of what was left of that hair. These two have the best funniest GOAT debates. Lighthearted, without putting down the other great player 😅I love these three together 😂😂😂ESPN has a gem of a cast “And they might not leave” 🤣 Perk is hilarious Perk saying "CRITICKTIN" in 2024 is crazy This joker said, HOLD ON BIG PERK. I PITY THE FOOL "!!! 😂😂😂😂. This is pure gold. The Pistons haven’t been part of a conversation in a while 😂😂😂Perk just giggles every few minutes😭They need a show with these 3😂😂😂😂You know Stephen A very upset with Larry Bird for throwing a bone at Shannon and Perk. 😂This trio is TV Gold 🤣🤣The Unc Minority Report reference was the Coke cherry Drink on the cake for me😂😂This was the best segment between these 3😂😭It is always an honor to watch Lebron James play!! He will be missed! The fact they just spent 10 minutes talking bout Ben Wallace is crazy. The 2007 pistons didn’t have Ben anymore. That was the Chris Webber and Mcdyss version of the team. The best defensive version of the Pistons in that era was the 2004 through 2005 season Did somebody even watch Bird, Reggie, and Isiah talk? They weren't making any list or whatever, more they were saying that people are bias naming their eras and players from their eras as the best ever. “Imma look red next to y’all any day of the week” 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂Stephen A. Shut Up are you crazy so you are hilarious 😆"Nobody is critiquing LeBron in year 21" lol what... it's like Skip Bayless just doesn't exist to them anymore. Tom Cruise in The Minority Report 😂😂😂😂I believe the Unc is ignoring the type of team Michael Jordan was drafted to in 1984. It takes time to turn around a franchise and Michael Jordan helped bring 6 Eastern Conference championships and 6 NBA championships This is definitely the best debate for this subject ESPN has had, instead of comparing Jordan/LeBron to the 2016-2017 Warriors, digging deeper and comparing what is more difficult, playing the 2007 Spurs or 80s Pistons/Celtics, for the first time in my life I am stumped.
Thats my problem too. How can it be out of the question for him to be Number 1 but u have him at number 2… the gap is not that big to be that overwhelmed with emotion ab it
@@rakabyeBecause he isn’t as accomplished as the person people trying to put him over, that’s why him being number 1 sounds crazy to people especially considering he’s playing over 20 seasons
@lajuan3474 And on top of that, I should have realized they were lying from day 1 when they first started that dumb narrative. Because I started watching the NBA in 2000. My favorite duo ever Shaq & Kobe, also won when Jordan was still playing too! Lol. The media guys always try to cherry pick stuff. If you call them out on it they're gonna shift it to "nobody ate when Jordan was winning." Then if you mention Hakeem they will shift it to say "nobody ate when Jordan was winning and playing full seasons." They don't even realize that fans of other superstar players that have won titles could use a similar slanted argument that they use. Because essentially what they don't realize is they're pretty much saying nobody was winning when their guy was winning... which is basically the same for a lot of other all time greats... once somebody is winning somebody is losing obviously. And they ignore the fact that it wasn't only Jordan that was playing great for the Bulls.
They had better teams than MJ. Jordan was the best player in every playoff series he played in. The Celtics swept the Bulls, and Bird called Jordan god.
@@carloszepeda8960 Well yeah he was still in the NBA. You see this is the dumb part of the argument because you guys keep shifting the statement. I can say nobody ate when Shaq and Kobe were in their primes, healthy and had a good team around them. I can say nobody ate when KD and Steph were together and healthy. I can say nobody ate when Bill Russell was in his prime and had a stacked team around him. Its the same thing. I'm not just talking about LeBron. I'm saying the dumb narrative Jordan fans use can be used on a number of other stars because all they do is single out specifically the years he won the championship. Lmao. 6 years was not his whole career. Nobody ate when Popovich don't sub Duncan out late in the game of a finals.
Nobody ate when Michael and Scottie was at there peak. Even during injuries to key player's. It's insane that they played all those long seasons with injuries and still won back to back championships. No team has ever done it with a two man combo plus a third wheel. Shaq and Kobe lost to Detroit. Celtics teams where always stacked teams in weaker conference. Even golden state who is probably the most offensively stacked team that has ever existed couldn't hold up to the wear and tear of long playoff runs. They all broke down. To be great you have to be a dominant winner plus durable and resilient in a deep era. And only one player and team meets those requirements.
As a Detroiter, its hard to to compare bad boy pistons to '04 pistons. They were both DOMINANT DEFENSIVELY. Both putting up a match vs Jordan AND Lebron
MJ had two 3-peats, DPOY, played defense, and 6 Finals MVP's. There's no comparison between the two......not in the same class. Same school yes, but not in the same class. Just watch the NBA 75th Anniversary intros or listen to the NBA players who were named to the NBA 75th team and see how they reacted to MJ being there. They all know......who is the top guy is.
Didn't have the competition bron had. Compare the finals teams Jordan faced and then compare it with who bron faced in the finals. Lebron had way more competition and it's not even close.
Jordan matchups in finals Dan majerle Bryon Russel Bryon Scott Clyde drexler Hershey Hawkins The only player to make 1st or 2nd team anything was Dan with a 1st defensive team (2) everyone else don’t even have an accolade. Clyde drexler is the only household name out of that bunch. The competition doesn’t compare to the matchups bron had to face Kd, Curry, Kawhi, Tim Duncan These are house hold names… I don’t understand why y’all compare the 2. Not only that Jordan had the best rebounder, best coach, best wing defender, and best European player. Jordan didn’t guard Charles Barkley, karl Malone, Dominque Wilkins, etc. y’all giving him defensive credit for something he not even doing 😭😭😭
This debate was 10× more competitive than the all-star game last night smh...
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Perk is me sitting at my computer just randomly chuckling every couple minutes
Bro perk be killing me😂
Nice line of work if you can get it.
As soon as I read this comment I started laughing then Perk started laughing 😂 that was funny af 😂
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"the man fasted for 8 years. and he aint eat nothing.....was he vegan ?!" 😂😂😂😂
Yo, I don't know how long Unc been sitting on that one, but he shot a half court 4pt play with that one. Lol.
How Jordan could fast for 8 years if he already was 2 rings and 2 FMVPs after 8 years. My thing is if guys like Shannon gonna discredit the man at least get the information right
ngl that was funny asf 🤣🤣🤣
@@suntansuperman26Jordan got drafted in 84 and didn’t appear in his first finals until 91😂😂so yeah he was fasting for 7-8 years lol try again
@@montrellbrowningIt took Jordan 6 full seasons to win a ring........
Perk low key dropped the mic at the end with his final statement "And they might not leave" lmaooo
Subtle death threat lol
😂I love Perk, I was hoping someone caught that
insane
These three is just what we needed! 🤣👏🏼
The boy shannon said Mike didn't eat anything the first eight years. What he was vegan😂😂😂
He was waiting for them boys to get old.
But it took LeBron 9 years to break through 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@markgraves2192na w he went to finals in year 4
@@markgraves2192We all know LeBron is human and have his ups and downs, but Jordan fans act like he was a God that couldn't lose when mattered. The people are just trying to prove Jordan fans that he was mortal by bringing up how he got swept alot in the 1st round etc in the 80s. Bron wasn't getting swept in no 1st round, he made a finals in his second post season appearance. Bron fans just want everyone to know MJ is not as perfect as many thinks he is.
@@caliba100exactly that’s all honestly 😂😂😂😂
2 dark brothers calling me red.. imma look red beside y'all anyway🤣🤣🤣
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Lmao sas right tho
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"It's written in blood" dude Shannon is killing me
That's why he's LeGay
He did sign it in blood
that scared em😂😂💯
He was talking like a rapper at that point, lol.
Shannon basically told on himself when he said that Lebron signed it in blood because Lebron sold his soul to the devil. Lebron also is a part of the Illuminati and killed Kobe because Lebrons legacy was not as great as Kobes so I'm not surprised at all
“UNCROSS YOUR ARMS” took me out😂🤣
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Put your glasses back on 🤣🤣
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Boy Shannon got me crying laughing lmao. Boy said was he vegan🤣🤣
Perk at the end saying “and they might not leave” lol😂😂😂😂
Don’t go to Beaumont tx they built different dine there
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I heard that FAAFO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're right, we are! 😂
This debate will never end 😂
Bec of LeKlutch Sports members 💰 in the media!
When LeBron finally retires then many of them will vanish from TV. Finally 👏🏾
Not even close to MJ .
@@tltarzan678you don’t even believe what you’re saying.. plz stop talking for shock factor
These two have the best GOAT debates. Funny without putting down the other player 😅
I'm ending it today because I'm the GOAT lol
"The man fasted for 8 years, he didn't eat nothing" 😂😭😂😭
Just like LeBron did for 8 years through the WEAK EAST 😂
@@Mercurial.so the 04-06 heat were weak, 03-05 pistons, 07-10 celtics etc?
@@sunnydreuxth East was weak when lebron went back to clevand
Compared to west, yes@@sunnydreux
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This debate is fun to watch no matter which side you're on.
Big Perk's laughter really makes this 10x funnier lol
Perfect fit for tv.
“The man fasted the entire 80’s was he VEGAN” yo Shannon is the GOAT at punch lines
Shannon is The GOAT of one liners
The entire 80's
What did he mean by that?
@@Younis1446 he didn't win anything during the 80's
Stupidest take ever. The East in the 80s was one of the toughest conferences ever. Get real. MJ is the GOAT.
“And they might not leave” 🤣 Perk is hilarious
These two have the best funniest GOAT debates. Lighthearted, without putting down the other great player 😅
Exactly! This is what Skip never understood and that’s why his best on air counterpart walked away. Even while SAS is yelling his points you can see how much he was enjoying this “argument”. That makes it so much fun to watch. Skip’s GOAT debates used to make me cringe and I usually turned the station or fast forwarded when he was getting disrespectful and personal.
Shannon was putting down Jordan the entire segment
@@kevothegoat9891fax they act like MJ didnt average 43 against Bird 😂😂 Then one of those games he dropped 63 on em😹😹
@@MunnaWill07 He definitely did what he could but Lebron dropped 40 just last year against the Nuggets in year 20 and got blamed for getting swept 😂. Same when he dropped 50 against the Warriors.
I can tell you’re a lebron stan since you obviously didn’t hear shanon and Perkins attempting to diminish Jordan.
The main issue with these debates is whatever side you're arguing for people tend to try to diminish the other side to make their side seem better, even if it's not intended it comes off that way EVERYTIME
SAS clearly lost this one.Jordan wasnt a god and didn't win a single playoff series without Phil or Pippen. Thats just bad. He had a winning percent of 10%
😂😂😂 I couldn't stop crying of this segment 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:15 SAF breaking out into impersonating UNC and Perks face is GOLD.....GOOOOOLLDD hahahaha 😂😂😂 And the RED comment at 5:35 😂😂😂😂 These barbershop brothers...I'm here for it. Protect this trio at ALL COSTS!!
No one likes Stephen A or Perk. Shannon the only one that should be protected at all costs
I love these three together 😂😂😂espn has got a gem of a cast
Facts 😂
Perk is trash
Till SAS get jealous or challenged and gets rid of one of them
Unc Minority Report reference was cherry on cake for me😂😂
😂😂😂 that took me over the top...i love that movie
@amrey3628 Agree , great movie I had to rewatch it again 😆
@@raymondknight5931 I was no older than 11 when it came out & my pops rented it from our local video gallery. Blew my mind & got me into dystopian science fiction novels, shows and movies. They tried a tv show that was after the events of the movie and I was so disappointed lol
Stephen A was already bothered as soon as Molly read Birds quote smh
This is perfection.. good entertainment fellas. I felt like i was at the barbershop.
“Imma look red next to y’all any day of the week” 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
This was the best segment between these 3😂😭
Perk just giggles every few minutes😭
That was fun 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"And they might not leave". Help lool
“And they might not leave” was a cold line to end it
Bro the media ran with this question. All bird was saying was appreciate the greatness of Lebron and he’s in the conversation for the greatest ever. That’s it.
NASA could report an asteroid coming, and you’d see First take…what does this mean for Lebron and MJ?
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@@BigstickNick" Breaking news, who has the better chance of winning against this incoming asteroid? Who will 'Space Jam' this asteroid and save Earth? History shows on the Grand Stage of performance, MJ's perfect NBA Finals record 6 of 6, will be this asteroids, Last Dance. On the other side, LBJ knew this asteroid was a threat and will make 'The Decision' to take his talents to team up with the USAF's Space Force and show that Asteroid whose the King, LBJ's odds are 4-10. Who will be the Greatest of Asteroids Taker-outters!?
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This trio is TV Gold 🤣🤣
The 4th lady was getting no screen time 😂😂 she was like, "why am I even here?"
It’s not Gold!!!! Not even COPPER 🤢🤮👎🏾
@@tribalchiefcg yes..2 guys yelling at each other is NOT good content !
This joker said, HOLD ON BIG PERK..I PITY THE FOOL "!!! 😂😂😂😂. This is pure gold.
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This is the first time I can say Stephen A lost a bron Jordan argument on his own show
The reason why Larry will always be my top 5 personally is because Larry attitude was pitch perfect. You can’t get better going into a Locker Room saying “Alright who’s winning second place?” In a 3 point contest n wearing warm up clothing in it 😂💀
This is my uncles at the cookout 😂
Exactly 😂
Perk at the end, "And they might not leave" 😂😂😂😂
Tom Cruise in The Minority Report 😂😂😂😂
Man.. Both players are all time great and very blessed to see both of them play... This should be on ESPN classic i cant stop laughing this was the best mj, bron debate ever
Steven A turning into tom cruise in the minority report took me out 😂😂😂😂😂
Today was the day Stephen A almost lost all of the rest of whats left of that hair.
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LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Time for the hair club for men or maybe a sew in!!!!
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Larry Bird is a humble legend that appreciates talent. Hate or love him, LeBron has been dedicated and still working hard after playing 20 seasons. Very impressive. 😊
Lebron is trash, go cry about it 😂😂
@@ClarenceisgoatMJ stans are weird 😅
“I’m going to look red next to Ya’ll any day of the week anyway!” Dead 😂😂😂
4:29: Stephen A. Smith - “Don’t…Don’t be pointing your finger at me.” 😂🤣😂🤣
The first 30 seconds of this segment and I'm already laughing 😂
The pistons haven’t been part of a conversation in a while 😂😂😂
@@yengvang8737who beat everyone on the dream team…#11 Isaiah Thomas 🏀🐐
You know Stephen A very upset with Larry Bird for throwing a bone to Shannon and Perk. 😂
It is always an honor to watch Lebron James play!! He will be missed!
As much as everyone hate on em
@@Snipeee215People don’t hate him, they just get tired of Lebron fanboys like Shannon Sharpe, Perk saying that he’s the GOAT over Jordan
I’ll miss him but I won’t miss his fans. They can go.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myou sound like a Jordan fanboy no?
He'll be missed? for not joining the 3 pt and slam dunk contest which he could be the GOAT but no, he cannot manipulate 1 on 1 contests. 😅
😂😂😂this whole segment was hilarious 😂😂
When someone says, "Wow, really?" In person that means you about to get snuffed. Lol.
That was a barbershop conversation if I ever heard one! 😂
My god heaven for bid an NBA Legend give Lebron a complement 🙄
Especially an NBA legend who played against who most people call the GOAT
Exactly! Mj can get showered with praise to no end but let bron get a simple compliment and everyone has to dissect the compliment
@@Righteousgeniuswhy is that a bad thing? Would u rather first take not talk about Larry bird comment ? If u think Lebron the goat why would u be mad they’re putting this on tv? Now Larry is saying everyone considers lebron either top 3 or the goat which is true
They need a show with these 3😂😂😂😂
This def the best first take combo lol
They have a show with these 3. It's called First Take.
I agree
@@FruitMonger360was gonna say the same lol
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This reminds me back in the day being at movie theaters in Pottstown PA.
Larry had a 6-0 record against MJ in the playoffs.
its a fact!
Those Celtics teams 86,87,88 were legendary teams. HALL OF FAMERS at every position. Jordan didn't even have another Allstar on the team.
Larry was supposed to be 6-0.
@@DarkBlackTimes Bron's Cavs team was not built to win his first time around.
With 5 HOF give MJ the team bird had Bird would’ve lost every playoff game
@@DunitTVthey wasn’t builder to win period letrash ran back to Cleveland because the spurs swept him
Shannon a legend for that vegan line 😂😂😂😂
Perk is so funny …”and they might not leave”
This is definitely the best debate for this subject ESPN has had, instead of comparing jordan/lebron to 2016-2017 warriors, digging deeper and comparing what is a more difficult, playing the 2007 spurs or 80s pistons/Celtics, for the first time in my life I am stumped
Tim Duncan and Spurs were on a run but you're right 80s Piston & Celtics are also dynasty teams too. That one will have to be truly debated and dissected but if I was a betting man, I don't know if I could bet against Spurs but then again how can I bet against Pistons or Celtics, you're right I'm stumped too😂
It really depends on which rules we're playing under.
The way the Pistons played defence in the 80s was outlawed in the 90s, let alone the 2000s. Not to mention people forget there was no zone defence before 01', so just based on that, we'd have to say the 07' Spurs were the best team defensively just based on the experience they have running zones, not to mention the length and size they had.
Based on personnel, the 86' Celtics were probably the best team on offence with Prime Larry and co. but overall, I'd say the Spurs dynasty Lebron had to overcome was greater than the Celtics or Pistons dynasty. The longevity and basketball they played were absolutely phenomenal, just watch them play in 07' vs 13-14', two very different styles but mastered both, that versatility alone makes me think the Spurs were tougher to get through.
@@Roxas-ph3te That's probably the biggest thing when it comes to the Spurs. To me Tim Duncan is highly underrated when it comes to people mentioning adaptability and being able to win in every decade he played in with the leagues playing style changing probably more than any other era. Late 90s, 2000s, 2010s. In 2010s alone, the league changed at least 3 times. I would probably pick the Spurs to win too. I think people are waiting to say Pop got lucky though but if he wins again with Wemby, it's a wrap. Even if he gets close, there's nothing else that could be said.
@@Roxas-ph3te Yeah that's valid, pistons likely wont win unless it's 80s rules, and honestly a young ginobili is going to match if not be a bigger threat than everybody on the celtics besides bird without even mentioning tim duncan or parker, but then again nobody is going to just go out there and smoke a 1986 bird idc who you are, but i could see 07 spurs coming on top after a hard fought win, definitely took a while to find an answer for this one
@hakshustletv Agreed. Really just depends on how long Pop wants to coach, I have no doubts that if the Spurs draft well over the next couple of years, which they usually do, sign a big free agent and make some good trades they can make it back to the finals.
I love these guy's energy!!! 😂
Yeah, This Is Peak First Take ESPN right here.
"nobody is critiquing LeBron in year 21" lol what... it's like Skip Bayless just doesn't exist to them anymore.
Bruh, have you watched Undisputed this seaaon? Skip hardly criticizes Bron anymore. He gets overwhelmed by Keyshawn and Sherm's Bron fanboyism. Skip is a super liberal, he's backing Bron more now.
lol Lebron been getting passes his whole career,
@@QuestionEverything562skip used to criticize Lebron
@@kohsmoger1567 I know. Skip used to be Bron's biggest critic. However, he knows which way the wind blows, and he's jumping on that super libtard express that ESPN runs. The sports media is mostly left leaning, so LeBron is their poster boy. They have to continue to push Bron's phoney GOAT case. They have bigger political plans for LeBron James. ESPN uses LeBron's "Social Change Internet personality" as a type of criteria for his phoney GOAT case. When it just comes to their basketball careers, Bron has absolutely no case for GOAT over MJ. Great longevity doesn't beat a great long prime full of three-peats.
@@QuestionEverything562bro what lol do you think the earth is flat too?
The fact they just spent 10 minutes talking bout Ben Wallace is crazy. The 2007 pistons didn’t have Ben anymore. That was the Chris Webber and Mcdyss version of the team. The best defensive version of the pistons in that era was 2004 through 2005 season
2004,2005,2003 were fantastic defensively plus 2007 they got more offense with webber buy not the sam defense 2004,2005 are better defensively than any bad boy era prince,and the Wallace and Billups were to versatile in any position compare with the piston also probably the best coach ever Larry brown
The 05-06 Pistons was probably the best Pistons team in that time period. Unfortunately Larry Brown was gone by then
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I’m surprised SAS didn’t bring this up. Seeing Shannon get emotional over Lebron is so aggravating
People seem to forget this. Great point. Also IMO yes the 04-05 Pistons would be able to bang with the OG bad boys.
Perk’s laugh is too funny 😂
This segment was🔥🔥🔥
Shannon is a national treasure 😂big love from the UK was a great take.
😂😂😂😂 Shannon and Stephen A are hilarious 😆
This was hilarious 😂
Did somebody even watch Bird, Reggie and Isiah talk? They werent making any list or whatever, more they were saying that people are bias naming their eras and players from their eras as the best ever.
Those guys have always given credit to the new era. I remember Zeke went ballistic on Charles Oakley for saying he was better than Giannis 😭
Bird doesn't have to say anything. He was passing out brooms to Jordan. Two of them to be exact. 🧹🧹
that minority report reference 😄
"Its written in 🅱️💯👌🏾" 😂😂Unc a fool wit it fr!
Lmao I’m here for the friendly banter
Yeah these two have the best Goat debate. Funny as hell
Larry Legend has SPOKEN. And he's exactly right. Appreciate Bron while we got em now stop hating, his greatness cannot be denied.
Your three favourite uncles after a few sips at the family barbeque... Shannon "was he vegan😂"
I love watching them argue 😂
ben Wallace gave nothing offensively but Stephen mentioned Dennis Rodman?
This was hilarious, I'm ready for this.
This is great content😂😂❤
2 dark brothers calling me red.. imma look red beside y'all anyway🤣🤣🤣This debate was 10× more competitive than the all-star game last night smh..."The man fasted for 8 years, he didn't eat anything" 😂😭😂😭"It's written in blood" dude Shannon is killing me This debate will never end 😂Skip was sick to his stomach seeing Bird say that. Perk at the end saying “And they might not leave” lol😂😂😂😂1:15 SAF breaking out into impersonating UNC and Perk's face is GOLD.....GOLD hahahaha 😂😂😂 And the RED comment at 5:35 😂😂😂😂 These barbershop brothers...I'm here for it. Protect this trio at ALL COSTS!! Today was the day Stephen A. almost lost all of the rest of what was left of that hair. These two have the best funniest GOAT debates. Lighthearted, without putting down the other great player 😅I love these three together 😂😂😂ESPN has a gem of a cast “And they might not leave” 🤣 Perk is hilarious Perk saying "CRITICKTIN" in 2024 is crazy This joker said, HOLD ON BIG PERK. I PITY THE FOOL "!!! 😂😂😂😂. This is pure gold. The Pistons haven’t been part of a conversation in a while 😂😂😂Perk just giggles every few minutes😭They need a show with these 3😂😂😂😂You know Stephen A very upset with Larry Bird for throwing a bone at Shannon and Perk. 😂This trio is TV Gold 🤣🤣The Unc Minority Report reference was the Coke cherry Drink on the cake for me😂😂This was the best segment between these 3😂😭It is always an honor to watch Lebron James play!! He will be missed! The fact they just spent 10 minutes talking bout Ben Wallace is crazy. The 2007 pistons didn’t have Ben anymore. That was the Chris Webber and Mcdyss version of the team. The best defensive version of the Pistons in that era was the 2004 through 2005 season Did somebody even watch Bird, Reggie, and Isiah talk? They weren't making any list or whatever, more they were saying that people are bias naming their eras and players from their eras as the best ever. “Imma look red next to y’all any day of the week” 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂Stephen A. Shut Up are you crazy so you are hilarious 😆"Nobody is critiquing LeBron in year 21" lol what... it's like Skip Bayless just doesn't exist to them anymore. Tom Cruise in The Minority Report 😂😂😂😂I believe the Unc is ignoring the type of team Michael Jordan was drafted to in 1984. It takes time to turn around a franchise and Michael Jordan helped bring 6 Eastern Conference championships and 6 NBA championships This is definitely the best debate for this subject ESPN has had, instead of comparing Jordan/LeBron to the 2016-2017 Warriors, digging deeper and comparing what is more difficult, playing the 2007 Spurs or 80s Pistons/Celtics, for the first time in my life I am stumped.
Ngl this was one of the best debates I’ve seen😭😭
I’m in tears 😂
The issue with stephen a is that he says lebron being 2nd "Isnt an insult" and also says him being 1st is "rediculous." Whaaaaaaaat????
Thats my problem too. How can it be out of the question for him to be Number 1 but u have him at number 2… the gap is not that big to be that overwhelmed with emotion ab it
It’s very big he’s played longer than Jordan and Kobe and still chasing them
@@rakabyeBecause he isn’t as accomplished as the person people trying to put him over, that’s why him being number 1 sounds crazy to people especially considering he’s playing over 20 seasons
@@suntansuperman26 there are players with more on their resume than Jordan outside of the top 2…
@@rakabye Like who? Add up all of Jordan’s accolades and he has the most than any other player
The man fasted for 8 years. 😂
It would be amazing to get LB in the studio please 🙏❤😊
'Bill Laimbeer gonna drag Ben Wallace away from the rim and make his jump shots from the key' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
1:25 look how big Shannon eyes got when he said it’s written in blood 😂
😂😂😂😂 now that's funny af
Years ago I used to buy into the media narrative on "Nobody ate in MJs era" until I found out about Magic, Bird & Isaiah.
@lajuan3474 And on top of that, I should have realized they were lying from day 1 when they first started that dumb narrative. Because I started watching the NBA in 2000. My favorite duo ever Shaq & Kobe, also won when Jordan was still playing too! Lol. The media guys always try to cherry pick stuff. If you call them out on it they're gonna shift it to "nobody ate when Jordan was winning." Then if you mention Hakeem they will shift it to say "nobody ate when Jordan was winning and playing full seasons." They don't even realize that fans of other superstar players that have won titles could use a similar slanted argument that they use. Because essentially what they don't realize is they're pretty much saying nobody was winning when their guy was winning... which is basically the same for a lot of other all time greats... once somebody is winning somebody is losing obviously. And they ignore the fact that it wasn't only Jordan that was playing great for the Bulls.
They had better teams than MJ. Jordan was the best player in every playoff series he played in. The Celtics swept the Bulls, and Bird called Jordan god.
@@diegobromfieldJordan with the wizards really? Everyone ate on lebrons watch
@@carloszepeda8960 Well yeah he was still in the NBA. You see this is the dumb part of the argument because you guys keep shifting the statement. I can say nobody ate when Shaq and Kobe were in their primes, healthy and had a good team around them. I can say nobody ate when KD and Steph were together and healthy. I can say nobody ate when Bill Russell was in his prime and had a stacked team around him. Its the same thing. I'm not just talking about LeBron. I'm saying the dumb narrative Jordan fans use can be used on a number of other stars because all they do is single out specifically the years he won the championship. Lmao. 6 years was not his whole career. Nobody ate when Popovich don't sub Duncan out late in the game of a finals.
Nobody ate when Michael and Scottie was at there peak. Even during injuries to key player's. It's insane that they played all those long seasons with injuries and still won back to back championships. No team has ever done it with a two man combo plus a third wheel. Shaq and Kobe lost to Detroit. Celtics teams where always stacked teams in weaker conference. Even golden state who is probably the most offensively stacked team that has ever existed couldn't hold up to the wear and tear of long playoff runs. They all broke down. To be great you have to be a dominant winner plus durable and resilient in a deep era. And only one player and team meets those requirements.
As a Detroiter, its hard to to compare bad boy pistons to '04 pistons. They were both DOMINANT DEFENSIVELY. Both putting up a match vs Jordan AND Lebron
Molly getting mad at the end because they're not listening to her....priceless! 🤣🤣🤣
We needed a 20 minute segment with them
If I was Perk I woulda just sat aside with some popcorn lol
Unc got me dying 😂😂
And the never ending debate lives on lol 😂
It's always entertaining to watch these arguments...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Perk had a point when he mentioned the 04 pistons. That team was nasty.. Good luck scoring 80 on them any night 🤘
These debates be funny !!! But glad they all friends at the same time
“Was he vegan?” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
MJ had two 3-peats, DPOY, played defense, and 6 Finals MVP's. There's no comparison between the two......not in the same class. Same school yes, but not in the same class. Just watch the NBA 75th Anniversary intros or listen to the NBA players who were named to the NBA 75th team and see how they reacted to MJ being there. They all know......who is the top guy is.
Don’t forget, Jordan accomplished much more in much less time.
Didn't have the competition bron had. Compare the finals teams Jordan faced and then compare it with who bron faced in the finals. Lebron had way more competition and it's not even close.
@@bigpoppa3999Name the competition lebron had to go through in the East in the playoffs to get to the Finals?
Played against bums
Jordan matchups in finals
Dan majerle
Bryon Russel
Bryon Scott
Clyde drexler
Hershey Hawkins
The only player to make 1st or 2nd team anything was Dan with a 1st defensive team (2) everyone else don’t even have an accolade. Clyde drexler is the only household name out of that bunch.
The competition doesn’t compare to the matchups bron had to face
Kd,
Curry,
Kawhi,
Tim Duncan
These are house hold names… I don’t understand why y’all compare the 2. Not only that Jordan had the best rebounder, best coach, best wing defender, and best European player.
Jordan didn’t guard Charles Barkley, karl Malone, Dominque Wilkins, etc. y’all giving him defensive credit for something he not even doing 😭😭😭
They were hitting Stephen a with blow after blow. He was on the ropes the whole segment 😂
"it's written in blood" - shannon sharpe😂😂😂
We need this 2 in Wrestlemania