Bad rework not gonna lie, I'd rather have higher chances of getting a rare item than having more items collected from chests to have a higher chance to get a rare item. Also opening sealed chests manually in order to get more items is straight up the worst part, I think they should give the same amount for unloading sealed chests automatically aswell, so the person can fish more or open underwater chests in whispering caverns and limestone key for sunken items
Agreed it’s more of an inventory clutter potion rather than a luck potion. If we’re going the route of “roll it multiple times for better chances” it should roll up to 5 times but only give us 1 drop which would be the best item drop after all the rolls (valued by rarity then worth) that way it’s more about filtering out the garbage drops instead of making rare items common or filling our inventories to the brim and can still speed up the hunt for rare items.
Well yes the rework is bad because it is supposed to be a nerf. Luck was just too OP in its prior state. As for the second point, opening the sealed automatically gives you 2 extra drops too. I think arcey thought so because other notifications push the drop notifications out of your screen but luck works the same way for opening sealeds manually or automatically. So no difference
Would be cool If they fixed the bug with unloading sealed chest. Other than that though, Luck 5 on Golden Chest is actually a good way to get a Sunken If I'm being honest. A Sunken item is a 1/3000 chance. A single golden chest can get you 3 items, one possibly being a Sunken item. If what you said is true that you get 9 items from a single golden chest, then opening 10 golden chest you can get 90 items. Then the chances of getting one Sunken from those chest is 1/33 or 3.03%, If you opened 20, It's 1/16 or 6.25%. For comparison, General Argos' drop rate is 1/7 or 14%. I'm not sure If that increased dropped items is applicable to the other chest, If it did then that'd be great. If you're gonna try this, try looking for Underwater Structures between Limestone Key and Whispering Caverns, If not then try and save that Luck 5 potion for some other day till you finally find a structure between those 2 islands. Considering the loot from those underwater structures actually respawn. Though take everything I said with a grain of salt because it could just be entirely bullshit.
I don't really think the chances are that high simple because the base chance is still 1/3000. even if you can get 90 itens on chests, they will still roll 1/3000 90 times. So you will almost aways get garbage every single time.
@@matheusguerrascheffer6518 I'm aware, I did the math right. I'm not saying the chance needed is reduced, there's simply more samples for it to happen. For comparison, New Luck is like having 1000 people opening 1000 chest and one of them containing is the Prize. While Old Luck is like having 1000 chest but only one person exist and opens a chest one at a time, but you're more likely to come across the prize. Because Luck now is Quantity instead of Quality which is the Old Luck, which is just literal luck RNG compared to New Luck, which more of a solid guarantee.
the dark sealed chest gave the same amount of rewards when you did it with the quartermaster and when you did it manually you sold 2 chests at a time, which gave you way more popups, while when the quartermaster did it it does 1 chest at a time
6:22 Thats kinda lame imo. I have seen like 3 to 5 players with over or nearing 100 Prometheus Acrimony's (2 of which were in the same server), and 1 guy had like 200. Some players just hoard them and refuse to trade them.
i mean the rarity would be astronomically high though lol. In optimal conditions, getting just two sunkens from one abyssal golden chest are 1 in over 2 million with luck 3.
The reason it seems like you get more from selling manually is because you are selling more at a time. Quartermasters can only sell 1 sealed chest at a time, where you can sell up to 2
@@arceyplayz luck 5 rerolls the loot pool twice, so if u open a chests, u get the original chest loot, + 2 extra rerolls, so u open like 3 chests in 1
Ik it's been 2 months and you prolly have gotten even more knowledge of AO but the main reason why it seems like you get more from selling manually is because only 1 chest gets sold at a time also should mention you sell 9-10 chests per minute. And tbh idk what I'm saying but basically the ships unloading don't sell 2 chests at once to my knowledge.
I checked the footage afterwards and found something interesting. Even if its manual or not, you actually do get LESS items than what is thought to be the amount you get. You get only 1 guaranteed Re-roll, regardless of the luck. So for opening sealed chests, you basically only double the chests, not triple or quadruple. And yea, because of the way the item UI works, its really difficult to see how many items you are actually getting from the chests if sold one by one or even by twos.
its weird because i checked and saw sometimes i got 7 items from opening 2 chests at hand, also theyre supposed to drop 6 items each, not 4, so its really weird
now... what is the best method to get legendary scales? I used to use luck IV in the Dark Sea to get some scales, and now with these changes it is more difficult
What Fishing rod and enchant do you use for more legendary fish? I know to fish in the dark sea for more legendary fish but I only got 2 for like 2 hours and I'm straight up struggling :(
people glaze toughened but i think graced does the job since colossal automatically replaces the big modifier on fish so there's no point on using toughened unless you really want to brute force the statistics
@@mouthless16 IIRC, the patch notes on the trello said that fishing rod stats don’t affect legendary fish chances anymore. This means you want an Ensnaring Bronze Rod to get as many chances as possible since you can’t increase the chances.
that i know, but when i also counted it, it didnt add up, dark sealed chests give 2 items, and with luck 5 its supposed to give 6 EACH chest, but rn they give 4 only, so it could be a bug.
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Well, since you didn't, I will: Let's define the chance of a Sunken drop as 1/2000, P(Sunken item) = 1/2000 Given Luck 5, so 3 rerolls, P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9 P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9=1/2000^9 2000^9=512x10^24 P(9 Sunken Items) = 1/512x10^24=1.953125x10^-30 Which is: ~1.95*10^28%, aka 0.000000000000000000000000000195% (or about 19.5 octillionths of a percent) or 1 in 5.12x10^29, aka 1 in 512 nonillion. Which is among the rarest things in the known universe.
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Bad rework not gonna lie, I'd rather have higher chances of getting a rare item than having more items collected from chests to have a higher chance to get a rare item.
Also opening sealed chests manually in order to get more items is straight up the worst part, I think they should give the same amount for unloading sealed chests automatically aswell, so the person can fish more or open underwater chests in whispering caverns and limestone key for sunken items
Agreed it’s more of an inventory clutter potion rather than a luck potion. If we’re going the route of “roll it multiple times for better chances” it should roll up to 5 times but only give us 1 drop which would be the best item drop after all the rolls (valued by rarity then worth) that way it’s more about filtering out the garbage drops instead of making rare items common or filling our inventories to the brim and can still speed up the hunt for rare items.
Well yes the rework is bad because it is supposed to be a nerf. Luck was just too OP in its prior state.
As for the second point, opening the sealed automatically gives you 2 extra drops too. I think arcey thought so because other notifications push the drop notifications out of your screen but luck works the same way for opening sealeds manually or automatically. So no difference
you do get the same amount... arcey just got more because he's opening 2 at a time
dumbass forget that luck prior to empire update is very overpower
real
Would be cool If they fixed the bug with unloading sealed chest.
Other than that though, Luck 5 on Golden Chest is actually a good way to get a Sunken If I'm being honest.
A Sunken item is a 1/3000 chance. A single golden chest can get you 3 items, one possibly being a Sunken item. If what you said is true that you get 9 items from a single golden chest, then opening 10 golden chest you can get 90 items. Then the chances of getting one Sunken from those chest is 1/33 or 3.03%, If you opened 20, It's 1/16 or 6.25%.
For comparison, General Argos' drop rate is 1/7 or 14%.
I'm not sure If that increased dropped items is applicable to the other chest, If it did then that'd be great.
If you're gonna try this, try looking for Underwater Structures between Limestone Key and Whispering Caverns, If not then try and save that Luck 5 potion for some other day till you finally find a structure between those 2 islands.
Considering the loot from those underwater structures actually respawn.
Though take everything I said with a grain of salt because it could just be entirely bullshit.
I don't really think the chances are that high simple because the base chance is still 1/3000. even if you can get 90 itens on chests, they will still roll 1/3000 90 times. So you will almost aways get garbage every single time.
@@matheusguerrascheffer6518 I'm aware, I did the math right. I'm not saying the chance needed is reduced, there's simply more samples for it to happen.
For comparison, New Luck is like having 1000 people opening 1000 chest and one of them containing is the Prize. While Old Luck is like having 1000 chest but only one person exist and opens a chest one at a time, but you're more likely to come across the prize.
Because Luck now is Quantity instead of Quality which is the Old Luck, which is just literal luck RNG compared to New Luck, which more of a solid guarantee.
So glad I farmed 1k dark seal chests and stored them then used a gilded luck V aura :)
I'll find your username, and make sure you never get those chests again
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@@patriks_lv unless hes not lb and has teleport settings to none
Damn
Man as soon as we did luck party you done posted this😭🙏
the dark sealed chest gave the same amount of rewards when you did it with the quartermaster and when you did it manually you sold 2 chests at a time, which gave you way more popups, while when the quartermaster did it it does 1 chest at a time
as of rn sealed chests give 4 items per, which is weird as they should give 6
@@arceyplayzI’m pretty sure luck V just adds 2 re rolls, so you get 2 by default then +2 for luck V
youtube showing me this video after i did a luck V event and no one got anything sunken is wild
6:22 Thats kinda lame imo. I have seen like 3 to 5 players with over or nearing 100 Prometheus Acrimony's (2 of which were in the same server), and 1 guy had like 200. Some players just hoard them and refuse to trade them.
i mean the rarity would be astronomically high though lol. In optimal conditions, getting just two sunkens from one abyssal golden chest are 1 in over 2 million with luck 3.
Same with headless. I know a man with 50 of them.
@@TheBlueScroom that's insane lol
havent even watched the vid yet but i want to say that thumbnail is really good bro
very interesting video
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The reason it seems like you get more from selling manually is because you are selling more at a time. Quartermasters can only sell 1 sealed chest at a time, where you can sell up to 2
Yes but the weird part is I'm only getting 4 items per chest instead of 6
bros sails were stretched beyond reality
in 2:29 you get more stuff cause its 2 chests at the same time
Tho is it double loot or triple? I'm still confused
@@arceyplayz luck 5 rerolls the loot pool twice, so if u open a chests, u get the original chest loot, + 2 extra rerolls, so u open like 3 chests in 1
@@crowsong1 what about sealed
@@arceyplayz same thing, only thing that can reroll and still give you nothing its bosses
i think what's happening is that your selling 2 chests at the same time which is making it look like ur getting more
after slowing the footage down i saw that I was still getting 4 items per chest even with luck 5, which seems to be a bug
i forgot that now claimed island will turn into fortress that will be safer to unload your chests
Lol i just appeared on your boat randomly
It might be because your opening two at a time while on the boat its one at a time
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don't quartermasters sell 1 chest at a time? thats why you were getting 4 items per chest sold
yes but its supposed to be 6 per chest, not 4
@@arceyplayz it is 4 per chest??? you get 2 extra drops at luck 5?
3:09 this isn’t a good test. You should have turned them in one at a time.
i slowed down the video and saw that its still 4 items per chest, it should be 6 items per chest
Make a guide we’re you teach how to get a lot of golden scales. I see players with 100 golden scales and I don’t no how
just fish. theres no other way
Ik it's been 2 months and you prolly have gotten even more knowledge of AO but the main reason why it seems like you get more from selling manually is because only 1 chest gets sold at a time also should mention you sell 9-10 chests per minute. And tbh idk what I'm saying but basically the ships unloading don't sell 2 chests at once to my knowledge.
I checked the footage afterwards and found something interesting. Even if its manual or not, you actually do get LESS items than what is thought to be the amount you get. You get only 1 guaranteed Re-roll, regardless of the luck. So for opening sealed chests, you basically only double the chests, not triple or quadruple. And yea, because of the way the item UI works, its really difficult to see how many items you are actually getting from the chests if sold one by one or even by twos.
@ am I still getting equally as good items?
@@Cuhgaliscious Luck doesn't affect the items you get anymore so its the same with or without luck. You just get "more" items now.
I’m pretty sure the only reason ur getting more is cuz ur doing 2 at a time
Yep, he just forgot he picked up 2 chests and the unload only does 1 😂
Yeah lol
its weird because i checked and saw sometimes i got 7 items from opening 2 chests at hand, also theyre supposed to drop 6 items each, not 4, so its really weird
@@arceyplayz I don't know but one thing is for sure, it gives more items :)
Nice video
Whats the best way to get leg fish scales now?
The same way as before, it hasn't changed
What did you use to get your chests to have a glow?
Revealing potion, you need growth sap to brew it
Wow they made luck not even luck anymore you just gain extra that doesn't do much
now... what is the best method to get legendary scales?
I used to use luck IV in the Dark Sea to get some scales, and now with these changes it is more difficult
are you trading/selling your powerful scrolls?
Sold out
Hey arcey its been a while, thank you for giving me the idea to scam kids for sunken swords i now have 2 of them 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Yo halloween event today at 3 pm EST
i forgot to gank.....
Hi can I ask how'd you put gold coins inside the brig?
Is the exploit that frames people for exploiting and gets them banned fixed yet in the main game?
nah my natural luck is enough since i found a hecates essence (even tho i did not need it) while looking for a golden cauldron
You were looking for cauldrons in layer 4??? Why?
@@Dual_Ralle no islands spawned in i3 for me so i tried to see if islands would spawn in i4 and it did so i just searched there ;-;
@@Doorman-xc6sp bruh just go to insanity 2 for gilded cauldrons
Luck fishing parties no more 😔
its bad tho but i dont mind it aloth but getting scrolls now is a pain. but question if i fish 1999 fish and i drink luck 5 whould i get 3 sunkens?
How did you get that MANY dark sealed chest:-; last time i lost all my chest because i ran out of stamina 🤧🤧
@yourpalswhiteguard9208 you just do insanity 1 siren islands, you only need 20 islands to get 60
whats a good ship setup for dark sea?
(with deckhands)
having 100% stability and 100% resilience, and 20k+ hp is good
How did you fly forward at 5:49?
i have very high agility
dash reflex i think
What Fishing rod and enchant do you use for more legendary fish? I know to fish in the dark sea for more legendary fish but I only got 2 for like 2 hours and I'm straight up struggling :(
people glaze toughened but i think graced does the job since colossal automatically replaces the big modifier on fish so there's no point on using toughened unless you really want to brute force the statistics
@@mouthless16 IIRC, the patch notes on the trello said that fishing rod stats don’t affect legendary fish chances anymore. This means you want an Ensnaring Bronze Rod to get as many chances as possible since you can’t increase the chances.
@@IceClancy-jc2cowhat about ensnaring fishmonger's rod?
4:53 sunken is 1 in 3000
pity is the 3000th fish actual chances are 1 in 2000
@@nevz861Sunkens are 1 in 3000 for underwater chests and 1 in 1500 for underwater chests below the sea floor.
@@IceClancy-jc2co I mean fishing
Does it affect the outcome of crafting modifiers on gems at all now?
Gem secondary effects still follow the same luck mechanics pre-patch
@@theswordprotector Awesome!
what if i use luck V on my sunken pity
so is it worth it to use luck iv when opening dark sealed chest?
Not sure, I need to do more testing
Long time since i played thay game bai
So lesser tier of luck just makes chest multiply rarer?
Ye, so luck 4 is guaranteed 1 reroll, and then the rest is like not guaranteed rerolls.
wait if i used sunken pitty with luck 5 can I just get like a ton of them?
not really, but its still untested
If I reach 2999 fishing and use luck 5, is that 3 sunkens then?
Unsure, but probably not
so dont use auto unload with luck and instead do it manual?
you can use auto load, it just takes longer since uh your luck can run out
The rework sucks, all it achieves is more inventory bloat. Vetex, i DO NOT WANT Pirate captain's hat #37 in my inventory.
dude...
youre getting extra items because you open 2 at a time
im seeing 2 bursts of 3
that i know, but when i also counted it, it didnt add up, dark sealed chests give 2 items, and with luck 5 its supposed to give 6 EACH chest, but rn they give 4 only, so it could be a bug.
@@arceyplayz maybe its capped at 4 because it'd be too op
wait, isn't luck additive, not multiplicative?
where is rob banks
bro i beg of u to use edward to sell ya chests😭😭
y?
@@arceyplayz does sellin em by hand give any benefits?
@@Eyz0 from what i saw, no actually, its only double reroll for some reason
this isn't that bad for acrimonies
w video
Gambling time
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I read Luck V -> Lucky bruh
hi
Well, since you didn't, I will:
Let's define the chance of a Sunken drop as 1/2000,
P(Sunken item) = 1/2000
Given Luck 5, so 3 rerolls,
P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9
P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9=1/2000^9
2000^9=512x10^24
P(9 Sunken Items) = 1/512x10^24=1.953125x10^-30
Which is:
~1.95*10^28%, aka 0.000000000000000000000000000195% (or about 19.5 octillionths of a percent)
or
1 in 5.12x10^29, aka 1 in 512 nonillion.
Which is among the rarest things in the known universe.
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Honestly this rework is kinda worse tbh i want better items not more
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I know >:[
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@@arceyplayz it’s a sg server clan that ganks people often
this rework is so ass, the old one was more fun
i think its justified to make sunken more rarer
@graveltheblock5578 personally, I think extra loot is decent sunken or not