FERRARI F40 vs JAGUAR XJ220: Which is the ultimate 200mph pioneer? | Top Gear: Series 29
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2021
- In the late 80s, a number of manufacturers were racing to create a production car capable of 200mph. This led to a mini-boom of incredibly bespoke and awe inspiring machinery. Chris Harris believes the Ferrari F40 is the last word in 200mph pioneers, but Freddie Flintoff thinks the Jaguar XJ220 is the ultimate choice. So, let's see what they've got to say and let us know your pick of the two in the comments below.
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“You pay for the engine. The rest of it I give you for free” Ferrari,Enzo.
What about the transmission?
He didn't say that.
Enzo only cared about the engine
@@patrickbateman529 yeah he did?
Thats the coolest thing I ever heard the f40 will always be my favorite and the 288 gto have them as models I built when I was a kid
Having a car debate between Chris Harris and Freddie Flintoff is like having an Physics debate between Albert Einstein and Wayne Rooney.
You sir, ARE RIGHT
It's even worse than that.
You had me in the first half
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Killed it
👏
Both cars are stunning.. But the F40 is just out of this world.. such presence.
Summed up very well, agree 100%!
So's the XJ220, partially due to being quite a bit bigger.
exactly
Chris Harris: Haven't driven one of these *in a while*
*proceeds to go cry in a corner*
My thoughts exactly
Exactly what I was gonna say
"Imagine not having one of these in your monthly rotation." --Chris Harris, probably
The F40 was created by engineer Nicola Materazzi, no one ever mention him but he really is the father of this incredible supercar, the best of all time if you ask me🇮🇹❤️
haha i hear you, similarly, no one ever mentions the chief tech offer of amazon, only Jeff...history remembers the pioneers of vision more than the ones who bring it to life it seems.
@@donaldmokgale3123 Yeah, it's sad if you think that these men really put all their effort to build something that it's almost legendary now, but the majority of the people don't even know them. Guess it's the way things go😉
There is an interview with him on youtube, its in Italian and its extraodinary.... He was so humble and teh car took Enzo's breath away when he showed it to him.
@@gentnextdoor one of the best automotive interview on yt, I suggest it to everybody. (Davide Cironi for those who are interested)
@@nicolagarzarella9776 would you mind posting the link to the video?
Would love to have an entire episode where Chris Harris just talks about the F40
ua-cam.com/video/3MDTcXGsjuo/v-deo.html
Search for" Chris Harris on cars "
Oh he whips an f40 and f50 in those videos
@@TheUsmc0802 Chris Harris On Cars is a better show than top gear. They should have funded that. Made Chris travel arould the world with a big budget and just be himself, on his own show.
@@mammakamel on an interview on the late brake show, Chris said he would hopefully return to making UA-cam videos. I'll believe it when I see it though.
the F40 proves:
everybody is a Ferrari Fan, even if they aren't
Nope. McLaren F1 and P1 are the penultimate cars for me. You can keep your Ferrari.
@@MichaelPohoreski F40 and La Ferrari look much better.
@@MichaelPohoreski whats the ultimate for you if the mclarens are the penultimate? 🤔
@@hello7533 The cars you can _actually_ afford! /s
@@hello7533 lmao
The XJ220 is so ahead of it’s time in styling! Holysh*t! So beautiful!
The F40 is so insane.
Yup
It's even more insane that it was a road car in the 80s!
@@1AOR1 yup
What is the car on your profile picture?
@@ferrete8967 him? No idea.
The F40 is THE car of my childhood. Every kid i was friends with had either a poster of a model of it somewhere at home. It was everywhere
The Ferrari F40 is my favrot 🏎️
I still treasure my hotwheels F40 model and my 1/24 scale F40 Tamiya plastic model that got as a kid back in the 90s
I had a 1:18 scale model. As you said, everyone had a poster or something about the f40!
Countach for me.
@@NinjaRunningWild thats's a great one too 👍
The XJ220 is such a underated supercar. It's beautiful
I had the very good fortune of seeing one in person recently in Ontario, Canada. I'm sure one of less than a handful in the whole country. Actually, it's a tremendous value in today's economy--except to find a mechanic for it. ;)
The XJ220 is one of my all time favorite cars.
Those performances... Out of a V6! How can anyone call that a failure?
Well, we have v6 in F1 today.
A v12 aspirated is more valuable and more reliable. It is not all about performance. Performance is on point indeed.
@bestopinion9257 how is more moving components more reliable exactly?
@@bx16v That is one aspect. But turbo is worse for reliability, that's why. For V12 less strain on each piston, because the force is more distributed. Make a high capacity V12 and you have big pistons with less strain on each of them. As opposite, make a small engine, one piston, big power. That piston (and cylinder and other parts) is doing all work, it captures all punishment.
But in the end what matters is of course how well the engine is made. Because you can make a crap V12 or a crap V6.
@@bestopinion9257I’d bet the Jaguar is more reliable than the Ferrari ( not renowned for their reliability)
Chris soo needs to go back to his own show . These videos are to edited , short and not pure like it used to be.
God I miss Chris Harris on Cars
Nah chris is so overrated
@@Goat4459 😂😂😂😂wow
@@dhananjayringe he is though.
@@Goat4459 no he ain't
The F40 will never ever get old, it’s Timeless! Even in 50-100 years, it will be the one of the most beautiful machines EVER
Yet its not really as beautiful as the car it was based on , the 288 gto .
Along with the Lambo Anniversary Countach ;)
f50 is better design
@@pinkithecat9101 looks similar (albeit smoother and ultimately maybe even more beautiful) and has even more power, but it's nowhere near as sharp or raw as the F40.
I think the F40 will one day be the most expensive road car ever especially being the last car Enzo Ferrari finish before passing away
The xj220s styling was years ahead of its time 25 years later it still looks amazing...
If you like boats it does...
Truly a beautiful car
@@stanvanillo9831 that's a brilliant observation
The XJ220 is timeless. Looks like it could have been build in the 21st century
what about the 20th century? or the 13th century? If the answer is no, maybe it's not so timeless after all ;)
“It’s like a tarintino movie; it all happens at once” no truer words have been spoken
Just imagine what the 220 could have been if they’d had the budget to do what they wanted.
It could've started a war between McLaren and Jaguar...
I'm sure I read somewhere there is some bloke that takes the 220 and makes it what it should have been. If you have a few quid.
@@danielrobinson2861 do you still have the source on you? I'd really like to read that!
Just like the C-X75. Had that gone ahead as planned it could have been mixing with the P1 and La Ferrari.
@@sparky4878 then it wouldn't have been the Trinity that's for sure!
What an era! I was living in Italy at the time when the F40 was released, then came the Porsche 959 and the Jag XJ 220. Who the hell wants to see EV cars today that drive themselves and quiet as a mouse? Its like going to a rock concert with earbuds...not for me! Nothing like the pure grunt and power of these classic cars.
The fact that Freddie is rationalising the Jag's name with the 812 Superfast tells you everything you need to know about the misery Chris has to put up with.
Ha ha. Truth.
He looked MISERABLE in that top gear team interview.
Hope he gets back to _Chris Harris on Cars_
uggh
Wow Jeremy Clarkson and James May changed a lot over the years
I was about to say, "Clarkson tested these years ago..."
@@LabCat Aye; both of 'em XD.
@@LabCat When they were new.
Everything, and I mean everything, about that F40 is just heavenly, no other words describe can it...
Agreed it’s one of the only 90s car that is just beautiful not beautiful for the time
eh dont look very good to me, i would rather have the jag, it looks more refine its faster and still has teh confort and luxury on it while the ferrari only has plastic bad siting position and its all cramp, also it looks cheap
@@LogitechXibanga Well, to each their own I guess, but I think I'd be right to say that most people will still take the F40.
@@abb05 yea probably, fine taste its not for the masses XD
@@LogitechXibanga 😐
The person who fitted the F40’s rear numberplate needs a new pair of glasses.
The F40 looks like a a piece of art made by humans, the XJ220 looks as if it was molded by nature's elements like wind and water.
Perfect!!!
Between 80's and 90's ,
Supercar industry , they got things just perfect !!!
and pure no computer aids
They didn't have many safety and consumption limitations
Back when Supercars use to be Supercars:,(
@@iMANTlS who cares about it when you have a lot of money?
now supercars are just hybrids with automatic/dual clutch transmission
I prefer the XJ220 on its original wheels. But, hey, I still wouldn't say no! 😍😍
Ditto. Wheels can be changed later after all.
F40 will never get old , most beautiful Ferrari ever made in my opinion ... it just clicks all the boxes , even in 2021
‘Ay giv ya, de jaguwa xj two-twentay’ 😂
" the jagūar, ex jEE, twoo twentEE"
Should be:
"Jag-u-arh Xxx-Jay-2-20"
Well F40 is a legend
The Jaguar XJ220 hasn't aged one bit. Absolutely beautiful.
Thing is with (most) Jags is you can't compare or contrast cos there's a different character in each model
My all time favorite car: F40😍😍😍😍
The jaguar is amazing but the F40 is just on another level
I agree, I love Jaguar and Aston, BUT as hard as they try, Ferrari is another league for British cars.
@@stojadinsport all are amazing but you can't forget abt the McL F1....THE car...
@@1x5.22 the greatest car ever made
@@sidesauce it’s like comparing a biplane to a jet fighter, the F1 was the King!!!
I had one of them red italian ones back in the day. It said FIAT and Punto (well actually it was my mums)
Only the F40 was a late 80's pioneer of 200mph. It was produced and sold starting in 1987.
The XJ220 was just a concept in 1988 and was not introduced for sale until 1992. Instead of the F40, the direct competitor to the XJ220 was the Bugatti EB110 GT and then the Super Sport.
The F40 itself was actually Italy's brute force answer to the German technological marvel, that was the Porsche 959.
I was never convinced by the Jag's styling when it came out, with the massive overhangs. But wow has it aged well.
to me it looks like a dog's nose bitten by a bee
I remember seeing it at the Motor Show in Birmingham. The thing that struck me was how utterly "normal" the interior was. Everything else in the show was all hi-tech brushed aluminium and digital instruments. The Jag had.....wood, and leather, and dials. It looked like a real car.
The Rover 200 tail lights are timeless.
Jaguars age really well
This put a big smile on my face.
I've unloaded a Jaguar XJ220 from an airplane before. I dunno where it was going, but it was beautiful, I never handled anything with so much care in my entire life.
Timeless designs, lovely engines and blistering fast.
That Jag on those BBS looks so damn good! 😍
stock better
The Ferrari F40 is Super fast 💨
Just not 200mph fast. That would be CTR Yellowbird as a first one.
@@hagestad i dont get it, the f40 was made before the thunderbird, so is the f40 technically the first car to exceed 200mph?
@@amarismith5784 it didn't actually do 200mph.
@@hagestad Is there proof then?
@@hagestad You cant say it didnt it 200mph without evidence.......
0:20 “Haven’t driven one of these for a while!”
Yeah, I relate brother. I haven’t driven an F-40 in (enter any measurable value of time here) either.
Guess I’ll have to run over to my local CarMax, pick one up and drive it for the seven day trial period before returning it.
First World Problems can be rough.
Here are two reasons why we love cars. Two pieces of art. Nothing else to say.
Agreed. The McLaren F1 and P1 are timeless works of art. :-)
Both legendary. Really couldn't say which one is better. Equally as good as each other. Never forgotten...
The F40 is the greatest car ever. By a long long way
the 220 was "luxury", the "40" was bare-bones
I would really like it if you put the XJ220 against the Bugatti EB110..... o wait there's another show that allready did that
The EB110 is everything the XJ220 should've been and wasn't. Though it has to be said the XJ220 looks a lot better.
@@Obi-WanKannabis Except the XJ is still faster
Bugatti’s EB110 4 wheel drive and a heavy quad turbo V12 lead to drive train losses and thermal challenges. With both solutions being heavy on top of that. Obviously there is beauty in the technical achievement and the complexity, Especially back in the day.
The recipe Jaguar went for with the group B derived turbo V6, RWD was, with regard to results, more promising and ultimately worth it.
@@stephanvelines7006 Except the XJ220 became a frankencar with no direction. It's a massive sleek grand tourer. But it doesnt even have a V12 engine. It's got raw ingredients but tries to make it soft.
The EB110 was almost as fast, but with a much cooler V12 engine and awd. The SS version was just better in every way even being lighter than the XJ220
^ Nope. The EB110 struggled to reach its recorded speed, even after Bugatti took the wing mirrors off.
The XJ220 could reach 223mph with minimal fuss, and in 680hp XJ220S form top 230mph. Not bad for half the cylinders and turbo's :D .
(and less than half the Turbo Lag)
Plus: She humiliated the V12 Pagani Zonda *twice* in 1/4 mile drag races; due to having vastly more torque and groundforce.
I think that's 3 to NIL in the XJ220's vs Italian competition sphere.
(though not the first time that Jaguar produced a car that left an Italian car maker stumped for a response)
2:33
Chris: "it's the greatest!"
Jethro Bovingdon: *cries in NSX-R*
Both of those cars have aged so well.
F40, bloody desirable that thing.
Have they finally fired the other tools off Top Gear and just made it the Chris Harris show? It’s their only hope
Please God let them do this.
Or bring in more car type people.
I used to live in Darwin and my father was a customs officer. When they did the Cannonball Run there (where they could go as fast as they could on the open roads), I remember seeing what was left of the F-40 after it had the fatal car crash that killed 4 people. I was a teenager at that time. I'll never forget it. My father also saw it as he was doing customs, checking it out of the country. Sad that both drivers (doctors) were killed, plus the 2 people doing the check point. That F-40 was a beast though. Man did it kick ass in the time trials.
Two of my favorite childhood cars. But the F40 is still the top! It's even better for its time than all of its successors, imo.
Something else.
But 30 years from now are we still going to lusting after a Chirron or La Ferrari?
Uh... Yes. Have you been close to any of those? You would lust after them for dozens of years.
Yes. Those cars are quite a lot more luxurious and detailed than 90’s supercars.
The cars that will hold value are the beautiful and rewarding to drive ones, not the fastest ones
@@ambergris5705 nah. I've saw two laFerrari in real life and they don't have anywhere near the visual or aural impact of an F40. It looked particularly crap in red
@@tomcharlton586 I saw two LaFerraris right next to each other, both red, they were amazing.
Why aren’t ya showing the lambo... oh wait! Oops!
The Countach was the fastest in the world at one point tho
The Diablo toped out at around 325 km/h, it isn't bad, but compared to the newest 90s supercars, it was "slow"
@@haydenbing5832 but paddy crashed it
@@haydenbing5832 the only good lambo was the countach
Well 220 VAN is dead now, too, soooo the F40 wins I guess?
F40 I still love it just as much or more than I did when I had honor of standing next to one at a dyno in the early 90’s. I’ve only seen one in person one time since then.
Feels very well timed that just as he says “kept it beautifully simple” a recommendation for the SF90 review pops up in the top corner...😅
First SF 90 now this, its Ferrari festival bois! Enjoy until it lasts.
Chris Harris deserves his own show
I've seen that actual Jag 'in the flesh' as it were and it is absolutely gorgeous
I like Chris's quote from the excellent F40/50 comparison he did. While sampling the F40's power, he said.... ''What did they (the other manufactures) think when they released this thing? they must have thought, we might as well pack up and go home''
That rear plate is playing havoc with my OCD!
First thing i noticed and ruined it all.
It was a Friday afternoon number plate drill job 😂
Love the Ferrari f40!!
both having trouble staying within their lanes; the 220: sleek. The F-40: beautiful
Espectaculares máquinas ,icónicas de los 80s y 90s, absolutamente bellas y atractivas por fuera, aunque no por dentro.
How am I supposed to take Flintoff’s opinion.. over *Chris Harris ?* 🤨🤨🤨
Oh, how much fun this would have been with Jeremy and company...
Love the F40. No gimmicks, no comfort, just a brutally fast race car that for some reason they allowed on public roads.
This is a beautiful film, well done modern Top Gear
I can’t imagine what the F40 is like to drive. Just need about £1m. 😂
It’s manic. To start the car, you insert this key that looks like it folds in two, then you depress a squishy rubber button to the right of the wheel, while pushing in the brake and clutch pedals, which both feel lightly sprung under the feet and make a noticeable “click” sound once they reach the end of their travel. At idle, the car feels lumpy and sounds almost (from the cabin anyways) like a muscular American V8 idling. Once you give it some gas and ease out the surprisingly light clutch, it jutters forward (not so smoothly) and the wine of the gearbox as well as the change-in-pitch of the engine starts. The engine becomes surprisingly smooth, but not very torquey up until about 3600RPM or so, with the only hint at power being the huuuuge “ssshhhhh” sound of the turbos and the wastegate “pash” every time you upshift. Every upshift brings out the clicks of the shifter gate as well as the clicks of the pedals. Past 3600RPM the car becomes manic, and you hear more turbo sound than you do engine sound, and the shift from redline brings an immense “WAPASH” from behind you.
The suspension is immensely stiff, but not jarringly so - it feels compliant. The thing you notice most is the sound of every tiny little rock and pebble being spat up by the wheels hitting the underside of the car, as the carbon fibre and the car having no sound-shielding really work in tandem with the engine, turbos, gearbox and little “snick snick” sounds of everything else to make the symphony of noises quite loud and visceral.
If you experience it once (as I did - only once), it’ll remain an experience that you never forget, for as long as you live.
@@39PSIOnTheDaily unexpectedly, amazing explanation, well done.
@@johnlilley9363 ...then a 6year old fits your rear number plate.
one is a car, the other is an F40!
F40 is still slower though XD.
(and only fun to drive at speed, when the clutch is warm and the road speedbump free)
Beautiful cinemtography and classic cars. One suggestion though..let the engine of these cars be the soundtrack for the videos. People want to hear more of it.
I remember the F40 from 1989 the same year I started Uni age 18, Car magazine had included an audio tape of the F40 and the Porsche 959
"Ferrari F40, haven't driven one of these for a while..."
Do you want us to punch you, or were you just not thinking before you spoke?
I didn't get this
Some one pls explain
@@Dj_pps Most people would love to have a go in an F40 just once, Chris has driven them multiple times
@@src248 not many even get to see a genuine one let alone drive.
The F40 is just way to legendary
Too
Thank you Chris Harris, for this beautiful video on the F40. My ultimate dream car.
This is such a good video really. Fantastic cars, great presenters, amazing camera work... Poor Lambo though.
F40 has been my favorite car since i was little. Im gonna buy one, one day.
I kinda makes me crazy that the F40 doesn’t have tilt steering lol
I like Freddie on top gear. You can tell he loves cars and that's what top gear was all about. You can keep the friendly banter because that's a bit too fake but Chris and Freddie just talking about 2 legendary motors is great tv
the one that you put as the thumbnail is always the winner
I love the XJ220, but F40 any day over it!! The F40 always will be the best!!
Jeremy Clarkson,James May, Richard Hammond this Top Gear
Both of these cars are breathtakingly beautiful.
XJ2020 didn't just break 200mph it absolutely smashed it. Also it's an absolutely beautiful thing to look at.
If I was lucky enough to choose, I'd take the XJ each time.
Edit** Not with those wheels though. Need the original alloys. Lol
Chris Harris: F40 is the greatest road car ever.
Gordon Murray: Laughs in McLaren F1....
In my mind the peak of the super car is the F1, such incredible engineering and it deserves a real head to head with the F40.
the 959 with the factory optional power packages stomps both
there will ALWAYS be beauty in simplicity imo💗
Freddie: everyone know you need to buy British.
Everyone: Nope, that’s just not true.
Nah, you do.
Never seen Chris Harris this high.
Every time his in an F40.... and the man has driven everything. Very telling.
In most industries it's difficult to determine peak. Not with cars. There were cars before the F40 and then there were cars after the F40.
I’ve never seen Chris Harris this excited about a car !!
Gotta be honest the Jag really does it for me.
The F40 is the quintessential "modern-ish" Ferrari in my books!
5:03 is one of the best things i´ve ever heard
2 of the best and iconic masterpieces, i love the cars of the 90s!!
6 Cylinders are always a master piece
Not a V6 :(
@@artimusbill it is a v6
You can’t compare the Car with that grey car.
The Brits love the Jag, but back then I don’t think we heard anything about it in Canada... it was always F40 vs 959.
I'm old enough to remember the hysteria around the 200 mph super car, only just though I was 4 years old when the F40 was launched, I owned a model Toy of this car and still do today, being about 8 years old when the XJ220 came along, I clearly remember the excitement around this car.