I must admit, I've never seen a video where they go through the games in chronological order! This was very interesting! It's cool how you guys managed to have the gameplay footage run at 60 fps.
Do you know how many modern Tomb Raider players I try and fail to convince to play through the OG series? This is an amazing video to share with them. Thank you!
It's hard getting a player that's used to the morden series fluid controls to give the classics slow tank input a shot ;/ Controls asside, they don't know what they are missing for sure.
I’m actually playing the first one right now. hard to control but i have to play it. My first one ever was a demo from pizza hut when she was in jail in peru 😅then legend. I’m not used to the OG ones but i can’t be a true tomb raider without playing them
They definitely address this in the later games, giving her a bit more guilt for taking lives. But ultimately she still ends up getting used to it and starts killing indiscriminately though.
She was the same as many other male protagonists of the time, but developers determined at some point that she needed to be "relatable" and compassionate so they gave her a guilty conscience in future games. But really, nobody talks about how Agent 007 is killing without remorse. They just think he is cool and that's it. Lara is always held to an impossible standard.
@@Mitsu2040 Well I'd say Agent 007 is not the best example because he is an enginereed assassin and lacks a lot of empathy, he only connected with a few people and that's it. I'd say characters like Nathan Drake, Sam Fisher and Leon S. Kennedy are more questionable. Nathan is basically a mass murderer lol Sam Fisher may have political reasons but still, it's like a justification, and Leon has been killing monsters for so long that he seems to have lost all empathy, in the canon movie Vendetta he is seen murdering civilians without remorse.
@@Goldman200 idk why you're getting Fisher into this, in the first few games he barely killed anyone and even in the later games there are non lethal options, also all the people he kills are people he is told to kill so he is a murderer just as much a regular soldier is, and he does have remorse.
@@557deadpool Lol. Yeah. I've undergone an evolution since posting that comment. The entire franchise is utterly dumb. I've pretty much lost interest in video games.
I wonder how many crimes Lara’s committed just by travelling. She rarely enters a country legally and has probably violated some international law on sea and air travel. Not the mention the customs violations! Always smuggling weapons across the border.
How many people she killed. She killed alot of Italians in TR2. She killed alot American in TR3 Nevada levels including soldiers, guards and biker. In addition to Larson who she tried to kill twice once in TR1 and again in TR chromnicles. She killed alot Russians in TR5 sunbmarine levels and TR2 golds in the bearing sea. she killed many Scotts including willard and all his employees in india, England and the highlands.
The original Tomb Raider will have the same fate as The Pirates of Darkwater unfortunately. If they ever bring back the original storyline and the "true" Lara, I will be totally surprised.
@@beefkilla oh yes it definitely was. Let me guess. You are survivor lara fan aren‘t you? Even the first 3 games were better storywise than that survivor crap
So OG Lara's kill list (and more) is: A T-rex Numerous dinosaurs The final magical ruler of Atlantis A giant golden dragon (Breaking into Area 51 without Naruto running) Killing some weird deity thing Killing a hyper-evolved spider mutant Defeating the Egyptian god Seth and some of his army Killing a part angel Nephilim Damn. Woman is BUSY.
AoD had SO much potential and it saddens me that there won't be a remake anytime soon :( The Amulet she recieved when she was trapped in the tomb was supposed to be expanded upon, and it was supposed to explain why she was always saying "I feel stronger now.", because she was weakened from being in the tomb & the Amulet was restoring her strength as well as giving her special protective abilities , hence being able to defeat Brother Obscura, Eckhardt, the half angel nephilim. Brother Obscura was also supposed to be TOTALLY different than the crap we know him as. And Curtis had so much potential to be featured in future TR games as a partner, Lara in one part of the world and him in another, or maybe they'd be in the same place helping each other, and then maybe even have his own spin off game series eventually. Ugh, the wasted potential, it crushes me 😪
Core at that time wasn't in a good place. And the higher-ups didn't help with their "ambitious" ideas to push Lara into the new engine, the PS2, they wanted to know what could the system do (that's why they tried including rpg elements with the strength or selling more items to Rennes) and the fact that they were split two to in Chronicles as well.
Would've been interesting to maybe have at least a spin off co-op game (okay, we have the Lara Croft games but I'm talking traditional TR gameplay and dedicated camera for each character lol) focused on puzzles/platforming that requires two players to get through, synchronized timing and all, help with combat (maybe some boss where one player distracts it while the other attacks/solves a platforming puzzle). I'm sure a lot of people would use it to get friends or their partners into the franchise like resident evil 5 did
This is the video of my dreams 😍 I was obsessed with the original games as a kid but realise now I had little idea what was actually going on 😆 so it’s nice to hear the story now with my grown up mind. They’ll hold a special place in my heart forever.
Same, TR fanatic here and at my big ol age of 30 it’s very interesting to digest the full timeline from an adult mindset Instead of just wondering oh how I wish my boobs will be as great when I become a womans 🥴💁🏼♀️
Yep same I am moving and just found all my old games I still have all of the old tomb raider games the warcraft games and StarCraft games even some burned cd expansions 😂 Anyone remember the boat you drive in TR2 idk why but driving a boat was the best in a video game 😂
Tomb Raider 3 The Adventures Of Lara Croft is by far my favorite. I really hope it get a remake but it's highly unlikely. I would also hope that remake would give us back Lara's classic moves and controls.
07:05 I don't know if there are official sources on the date and chronological order, but i.m.o the TR4 Cambodia levels occured before the island levels in TR5. Why? For one, in Cambodia, Lara is still a rookie and Werner teaches her the controls etc, and during their visit here, Lara finds a backpack. In TR5's island levels, Lara is already experienced with controls etc, and she already has her signature backpack which she found in Cambodia. ADDED: Also, TR1-3 have expansions; in TR1 you have two additional levels after escaping tbe Atlantean Pyramid where you finish off the last mutant creatures, and afterwards she returns to the Temple of Khamoon to look for a Temple of Cats. In the TR2 expansion, she searches for an artifact known as the golden mask. In TR3 she learns of a fifth stone, which she obtains.
Core Design already confirmed with the finalized time line in the official AOD companion book that Cambodia-1984 happens BEFORE Ireland-1984. Why some fans still make this mistake is beyond me.
@@Potkanka As far as I know, the source that places Ireland before Cambodia is the same source that places Lara's VCI heist of the Iris after TR3, and before TR4 - which we know is also incorrect since she has the Iris in her trophy room in TR3. The timeline from the AOD companion book places the VCI story after TR2 and before TR3 (which makes sense) and Ireland after Cambodia, so that is why I think that is the most correct version to follow.
As a huge fan of the TR series, when I first started watching this video, I was like, "Wait. TR3 was a prequel?", then I realized this commentary is very literal in the time-line of events taking place within the TR setting. Very impressive work! I am far too impressed for words. Thank you for creating this chronical.
Ah... the good ol’ Macho Broccoli! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Or my favourites: Charles Barkley! Barco Martolli! Bathroom Sparkly! Tub of Bertolli! Or the original: Marco Bartolli! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This was very well put together and tied a lot of things I’ve forgotten together.. and can I just say how amazing and far the cgi and in game graphics came from their intial debut to the end of the PlayStation One era 🤯
Notice how the longest section is Angel of Darkness... that game used to have a reputation for being the black sheep of the Tomb Raider franchise, but it actually had a pretty engaging story overall (I could've sworn it was taking some inspiration from the Da Vinci code but looking at the release dates I don't think that's plausible). The weakest element of course is Kurtis Trent, but otherwise it's a solid game.
If only the gameplay hadn't been so terrible and unpolished. Oversaturation and burnout killed off the original Tomb Raider, and it became apparent that they were churning out Lara Croft for the sake of Lara Croft rather than Tomb Raider, but it would seem that the original Lara takes all of the blame for that. If the series had remained consistent with the first installment and better aspects of the second one, with more time and thought put into the games rather than releasing one after another year after year, the franchise would probably look much different today. All of this stuff trying to humanize Lara and focusing on combat (particularly human enemies) and the shift away from isolation and the majority of the game being spent actually exploring tombs has been for the worse. I want more than anything just about in the world of gaming for someone to make a modern Tomb Raider that embodies what made the first game from 1996 so awesome. The intrigue, the wonder, the atmosphere, the anticipation of building up to something so exciting and otherworldly. It became more about showing off Lara Croft than having a badass Lara Croft show off the spectacular world building of the first game.
Tomb raider series took many things from movies …. Antarctica was inspired by The Thing , The Atlantean stronghold and the hive by Aliens , Wreck of the Maria doria by titanic …. Luds gate by The Rock … TR 4 by movies like the Mummy and the mummy returns . Nevada was inspired by Independence Day … tr1 natla’s mines by Indiana jones and the temple of doom … there are many more references … throughout the series lost valley by Jurassic park , crash site by The Lost World … Chronicles Contained infiltration missions a la Mission impossible …. And I could go on ….
This is a fantastic video covering the timeline. I will never forget the nostalgia I have playing every original tomb raider. The music was insanely good. I miss the old games but I appreciate the modern ones as well! I don't think my favorite old ones will ever get a reboot sadly my discs don't work anymore..😔😭
My first Tomb Raider game I played was TOMB RAIDER II in 1997 and vividly remember the Venice level. I am stil a fan. But having the story condensed this way I must say. Woah, the storyline is weird. And Lara is the most destructive wrecking ball to archeological sites. Ahhh, I love her. 🤣
I was looking for this video for a long time now. Even if the reboot and legend are out of this timeline, it's great to have an overhall explanation behind the Tomb Raider story. Thank you !
The original games are some of my favourite games of all time cos they were atmospheric and challenging. The legend series is also good but not as challenging as the originals IMO and the reboot trilogy is fun but overall just feels like it's trying too hard to be like Uncharted instead of being it's own thing.
after the meteorite it should be Atlantis or before, I don't know. But it means that Natla's story should go from the beginning. Also young Lara already got her backpack in Tomb Raider Chronicles...so Last Revelation's Young Lara should be before that event.
Nice video!! I think this is the first time that I see a video where the story or the plot of the tomb raider series was told chronologically! Well done, guys! Nice job!!
@@SuggestiveGaming now a days peoples are just after uncharted , love that you remember and respect TR classic , legend , rebooted story and telling us chronologically on its 25 anniversary , your efforts are remarkable , excited for remaining 2 parts , especially the 3th part ❤️
I was already in my 20's when the original released. I played it on the Saturn, as I recall. It's easy to dismiss now, but between TR and the first Resident Evil games, we were all blown away by these first games that really started to look vaguely like cinematic experiences. I can even remember telling my buddies that someday, game play graphics would look even better than the rendered cutscenes in Resident Evil 2. God I'm old.
@@JoeZUGOOLA the Egypt setting fits Tomb Raider perfectly. It was my favourite set of levels from the first game. It's a nice story arc that goes from Lara's early years until her death. It's a challenging game, with loads of puzzles. The atmosphere of isolation is captured perfectly. It has its flaws, like poor telegraphing of where to open certain things, or where to look, sure. But to me it feels like the complete package.
If you look about the whole Tomb Raider situation from a distance then you can see various bad guys aiming to raid various tombs for various items that have various super powers they want for themselves while Lara Croft simply likes rare and interesting things she likes to collect and keep at her mansion for personal display only. A view angle nobody ever mentkoned :D
Never played Chronicles so I didn't know Lara was 16 in that scene....Great look at each continuity though. I grew up with the Legend trilogy & always wanted to play the old ones.
@Rylando Restacruz I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your mother treated you as a mother ought to. You are here for a reason. Jesus Christ loves you so much that he literally allowed himself to be tortured to death for you. Remember this whenever these negative thoughts appear.
20:56 HOLD UP! Aliens? Element 115?? Treyarch zombies??? It's looking like Miss Lara Croft is the original inspiration for the story/ name of the element 115 for COD Treyarch Zombie's
I think the two timelines can easily be seen as one and the same, with the Crystal Dynamics games picking up where Angel of Darkness left off. You would simply need to consider Lara's backstory revealed in the Crystal Dynamics games as a retcon to that revealed in the instruction manuals of the original games, rendering the latter non-canon. Since those backstories are not mentioned in the games themselves, there is nothing in the Crystal Dynamics games that directly contradicts the events of the previous games. I know that wasn't the intent, but it is how things are in my head-canon.
I see it too that way. And the new game seems to be the first again. It could be a remaster of all the classis. So that all 11 games can be one timeline.
They are NOT one and the same. The contradictions are too numerous and too obvious. You might as well try to combine Christopher Nolan's Batman movies with the Tim Burton Batman movies.
@@GeonusKaikun No, he's absolutely right. The writers of the 2013 reboot played *against* the strengths of the original Lara Croft in ways that are truly baffling. It was a strategic error. Lara was cut from the cloth of James Bond, Indiana Jones, Doc Savage, Sherlock Holmes, Flash Gordon, Conan the Barbarian, and the Man with No Name. These are mythic, escapist characters from a bygone era, without the self-conscious introspection, genre deconstruction, or political obsessions of the current age. The naivete of these stories generates a certain awe. We *admire* these characters because how they handle themselves under duress, but we don't *relate* to them. And this particular incarnation of Lara Croft is so beleaguered and self-obsessed she doesn't even seem to enjoy her own company. The game appears to think it is an origin story, but doesn't have a clear idea of how to portray the Lara Croft this one will supposedly become. She isn't half as irritating as LAU Lara, but compared to Core's Lara, she's boring as hell. Not that the TR 2013 reboot is a bad game, of course, but it's nothing like classic TR and feel as if it started off development as a different title.
Tr2 has to be my favourite tomb raider game for the level in Venice with the boat. Blew my mind as a kid after that would be angel of darkness. Then would be the first game in the reboot era the story was great and multiplayer was always extremely fun I was so disappointed when rise or shadow never bothered to use it again.
Wow! 1997 Memories , those unforgettable TR2 Venice violins 🎻 I also have fond memories with , Tomb raider Chronicles was one of my favourites , it was the darkest tomb raider ; not sure about any of the reboots tho , I wouldn’t chose them over any of the 6 originals
@@QFilmz oh them violins always had my heart racing when it came on I so agree. I never did actually get to play chronicles that much to completion but I am going through them now as I bought the franchise pack on steam
@@_SYDGAMING_ I played all them 20+ years ago as they were releasing , recently I got a PS vita , I realised I could get all 5 Tomb raiders on it , so I’ve been playing them through , finishing off from where I was 20+ years ago lol I use a guide only when I get VERY stuck , I’m stubborn I wouldn’t use a guide but I was stuck on tomb raider chornicels for 6 months & left it before I finally gave in to use a guide lol
@@QFilmz lol I'm the same way mate as I'm 28. I have played most all them but some I got about half way through and just got annoyed as a kid that it was too difficult hahaha. Though since I did get the franchise pack on steam Xmas sale for 37 euros I could not say no to that it was such a steal it has every game from og to legend saga and reboot. Im enjoying the older games way more now I can actually get a grasp on most of the puzzles.
it's been so long since I've played TR on ps1. I forgot how the cutscenes were. janky yet charming. growing up with those graphics makes me appreciate what we have we today. the graphics of yesteryear still hold up to those of us who played with them, but newer gamers are all about the eye-candy and I feel don't understand what games went through to get where we are lol.
My first TR game was The Last Revelation on PC but growing up I got to catch with the legend series on PS2 then the new reboot trilogy, but I've only played the rest of the original games sporadically so this timeline was confusing to me, although if I remember correctly, Ireland was after Cambodia, besides that I'm really glad to have most of the original series finally explained in chronological order.
To me, it'll never make sense how the Rome segment from Chronicles takes place before TR1, aside from the justification that the Philosopher Stone was one of Lara's first finds. I get that in TR1 you shoot Larson and Pierre, but it's a less conclusive ending for them that leaves them more open to surviving... Well maybe not for Larson, but definitely for Pierre who falls an incredible height in Chronicles and you can hear him breaking his bones. And in the Rome FMV, it's pretty clear every character already know each other, with Lara wondering where Pierre might be as Larson shows himself, so we can rule out that it's their first encounter at least (it's not in TR1 either, at least for her and Larson, am just saying it can't be taken as a definite proof for either side of the argument). But Chronicles' writing is so messy at parts, to me it just doesn't mesh well with the rest of the series. I'll always take the Rome and the VCI sequences as "non-canon" for how much they either don't make sense in the continuity, or how badly they destroy their potential. I still believe it's better to think that Lara meets again with Verner Von Croy for the first time in The Last Revelation. Also, the Black Island section from Chronicles is definitely taking place after The Last Revelation's Angkor Wat sequence, because in the Black Island she already has the backpack, while she finds said backpack in Angkor Wat.
My longstanding fan theory is that at some point, Larson and Pierre made the foolish decision to Raid a Tomb despite being Larson and Pierre, and not Lara Croft aka The Tomb Raider aka The Only Person in This Universe Capable of Raiding Tombs Without Consequence. Naturally the artifact they Raided from the Tomb cursed them, specifically with immortality. Much like South Park’s Kenny McCormick, they are now cursed to die at Lara’s hand every time they meet, only to roll up like nothing happens next time she has an adventure that could use two cartoonish regional stereotypes.
Great video, although it needs mentioning that the books you talked about at 30.22 are NOT canon. The Amulet of Power wildly diverged from the plots of TR4, TR5, and AoD, missing out or radically changing pretty much EVERYTHING to the point it was obvious the author knew absolutely nothing about the source material and just wrote whatever they felt like knowing it would have the "official" stamp on it. Nothing in the book makes any sense whatever and has no continuity with the games at all. At best, they're speculative headcanon. At worst, they're mistakenly seen as official and taken as gospel, when anyone who has both read them and played the games will know that's incorrect.
That’s why I didn’t go into too much detail, and we mentioned the original plot for AOD. It was a real “damned-if-you-do or damned-if-you-don’t” situation on including them.
@@SuggestiveGaming Oh, they're damned all right xD (Especially when you read them and keep yelling "WTF THAT NEVER HAPPENED LIKE THAT?!" and upsetting your neighbours...
@@Cez24 Ah, but there's a difference between "canon" (officially acknowledged by the publisher/studio as part of the official universe/timeline) and "official" (acknowledged by the publisher/studio but not necessarily part of the official universe/timeline). Amulet of Power is the latter. It says a lot about the commission and the author that the Amulet of Power was such a substandard filler, especially when Murti Schofield *had already written* a sequence of events to bridge that gap. Why Eidos chose to invest in the Amulet of Power story/author when none of it had any connection to the games - when they literally already had a writer on their staff who had already explained everything AND the animation department had even finished fully-rendered FMVs to tell at least part of that story in AoD - is absolutely nonsensical. Really bizarre and saddening.
Seeing Lara walk into the darkness makes me really sad. Angel of Darkness is my favourite Tomb Raider game and it's upsetting that there's no sequel to it :(
Man.... I sure miss that, 'Frell it, let's keep things silly and awesome within our technical limitations' attitude video games used to have when i was growing up. These days it's all realism and tech specs. Wish I had experienced these games when they were new and i was still young
Let me know what game/series you'd like to see covered next!
the witcher :)
Or
Crash bandicoot :)
Or
assassin's creed :)
Make one for Doom or Shadow warrior
Assassins creed
Uncharted
Final Fantasy XIII - 2
I must admit, I've never seen a video where they go through the games in chronological order! This was very interesting! It's cool how you guys managed to have the gameplay footage run at 60 fps.
You have to see the Resident Evil timeline video if you like the series it very similar maybe even better to me
Do you know how many modern Tomb Raider players I try and fail to convince to play through the OG series? This is an amazing video to share with them. Thank you!
It's hard getting a player that's used to the morden series fluid controls to give the classics slow tank input a shot ;/ Controls asside, they don't know what they are missing for sure.
@@elenavaleria9943 they're lazy degenerates.
@@ashleynills7507 Ah yes, behold the gatekeepers
I’m actually playing the first one right now. hard to control but i have to play it. My first one ever was a demo from pizza hut when she was in jail in peru 😅then legend. I’m not used to the OG ones but i can’t be a true tomb raider without playing them
@@elenavaleria9943 The controls and platform is part of the challenge and fun honestly
I never noticed how much lara just kills people no regret, with her combat skills I always thought she would knock out most of the enemies in her way.
They definitely address this in the later games, giving her a bit more guilt for taking lives. But ultimately she still ends up getting used to it and starts killing indiscriminately though.
@@SuggestiveGaming yikes well thanks anyway for telling me about this
She was the same as many other male protagonists of the time, but developers determined at some point that she needed to be "relatable" and compassionate so they gave her a guilty conscience in future games. But really, nobody talks about how Agent 007 is killing without remorse. They just think he is cool and that's it. Lara is always held to an impossible standard.
@@Mitsu2040 Well I'd say Agent 007 is not the best example because he is an enginereed assassin and lacks a lot of empathy, he only connected with a few people and that's it.
I'd say characters like Nathan Drake, Sam Fisher and Leon S. Kennedy are more questionable. Nathan is basically a mass murderer lol Sam Fisher may have political reasons but still, it's like a justification, and Leon has been killing monsters for so long that he seems to have lost all empathy, in the canon movie Vendetta he is seen murdering civilians without remorse.
@@Goldman200 idk why you're getting Fisher into this, in the first few games he barely killed anyone and even in the later games there are non lethal options, also all the people he kills are people he is told to kill so he is a murderer just as much a regular soldier is, and he does have remorse.
My favorite lara moment is deffinitly when she scares Pierre off the cliff. I mean hey, she kept her deal! Hahaha
Mine was probably the part with her in the dress at the opera. I love how she dealt with Larson and Pierre and how confident she was.
@@joemusashi7774 oooo yeah that is a quintessential Lara moment very very cool
@@ohcie628 It showed how dumb Larson and Pierre were too. They go to kiss her on the hand, knowing that she's easily capable of kicking their asses.
@@joemusashi7774 yeahhh hahahaha
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I get overwhelmingly sad every time I see the ending of Angel of Darkness :(
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Yup. All because Eidos bungled the launch of the game. I get extreme nostalgia and sentimentality.
Me too I wish they continued it where they left off but that's business for ya reboots and remakes make alot of money now its crazy
@@557deadpool Lol. Yeah. I've undergone an evolution since posting that comment. The entire franchise is utterly dumb. I've pretty much lost interest in video games.
I actually liked angel of darkness it’s way better than the stuff they have out right now
Compared to 2013 tomb raider. The classics were complete bonkers. I love it.
I cant stand the reboot bring on the crazy I say
Only classic Lara is canon to me. First 3 games still the best.
Feels like it would have to be an indie game to have an insane story like this on an original series, lol No way this crap gets approved now by AAA
I wonder how many crimes Lara’s committed just by travelling. She rarely enters a country legally and has probably violated some international law on sea and air travel. Not the mention the customs violations! Always smuggling weapons across the border.
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How many people she killed. She killed alot of Italians in TR2. She killed alot American in TR3 Nevada levels including soldiers, guards and biker. In addition to Larson who she tried to kill twice once in TR1 and again in TR chromnicles. She killed alot Russians in TR5 sunbmarine levels and TR2 golds in the bearing sea. she killed many Scotts including willard and all his employees in india, England and the highlands.
naw it's fine, mafia does it ALL the time, who said she was a law abiding public servant :)))
Gaming Sins 👀👂
This comment is criminal underrated wtf
I desperately want to see this timeline restored, with the original voice cast, if only for a grand finale wrap-up to the AOD story.
The original Tomb Raider will have the same fate as The Pirates of Darkwater unfortunately. If they ever bring back the original storyline and the "true" Lara, I will be totally surprised.
AOD's story wasn't even that great anyway.
@@beefkilla oh yes it definitely was. Let me guess. You are survivor lara fan aren‘t you? Even the first 3 games were better storywise than that survivor crap
@@SB-dc3pb if you like 90s style boombast? which i can be partial to, then sure. Have at it.
@@beefkilla ???
So OG Lara's kill list (and more) is:
A T-rex
Numerous dinosaurs
The final magical ruler of Atlantis
A giant golden dragon
(Breaking into Area 51 without Naruto running)
Killing some weird deity thing
Killing a hyper-evolved spider mutant
Defeating the Egyptian god Seth and some of his army
Killing a part angel Nephilim
Damn. Woman is BUSY.
The Goat
AoD had SO much potential and it saddens me that there won't be a remake anytime soon :(
The Amulet she recieved when she was trapped in the tomb was supposed to be expanded upon, and it was supposed to explain why she was always saying "I feel stronger now.", because she was weakened from being in the tomb & the Amulet was restoring her strength as well as giving her special protective abilities , hence being able to defeat Brother Obscura, Eckhardt, the half angel nephilim.
Brother Obscura was also supposed to be TOTALLY different than the crap we know him as.
And Curtis had so much potential to be featured in future TR games as a partner, Lara in one part of the world and him in another, or maybe they'd be in the same place helping each other, and then maybe even have his own spin off game series eventually.
Ugh, the wasted potential, it crushes me 😪
Core at that time wasn't in a good place. And the higher-ups didn't help with their "ambitious" ideas to push Lara into the new engine, the PS2, they wanted to know what could the system do (that's why they tried including rpg elements with the strength or selling more items to Rennes) and the fact that they were split two to in Chronicles as well.
I actually am glad that kurtis never appeared again. I play tomb raider for lara.
There's a remake coming in February of 2024 (or at least a "remaster") of the original 3 games I believe on pc
Would've been interesting to maybe have at least a spin off co-op game (okay, we have the Lara Croft games but I'm talking traditional TR gameplay and dedicated camera for each character lol) focused on puzzles/platforming that requires two players to get through, synchronized timing and all, help with combat (maybe some boss where one player distracts it while the other attacks/solves a platforming puzzle).
I'm sure a lot of people would use it to get friends or their partners into the franchise like resident evil 5 did
@@Dark_Aeonexactly , Kurtis had no business there apart being filler for the plot …
This is the video of my dreams 😍 I was obsessed with the original games as a kid but realise now I had little idea what was actually going on 😆 so it’s nice to hear the story now with my grown up mind. They’ll hold a special place in my heart forever.
Same, TR fanatic here and at my big ol age of 30 it’s very interesting to digest the full timeline from an adult mindset
Instead of just wondering oh how I wish my boobs will be as great when I become a womans 🥴💁🏼♀️
Yep same I am moving and just found all my old games I still have all of the old tomb raider games the warcraft games and StarCraft games even some burned cd expansions 😂
Anyone remember the boat you drive in TR2 idk why but driving a boat was the best in a video game 😂
This was so good and cohesive. Brings me a wave of sadness seeing the ending of AOD.
Steve of Warr
@@swgaming7951 quite
I used to play Tomb Raider and kept dying. Aside from that, I love the series. 💚
Tomb Raider 3 The Adventures Of Lara Croft is by far my favorite. I really hope it get a remake but it's highly unlikely. I would also hope that remake would give us back Lara's classic moves and controls.
Congrats
Now hope I get a billion dollars.
07:05 I don't know if there are official sources on the date and chronological order, but i.m.o the TR4 Cambodia levels occured before the island levels in TR5. Why? For one, in Cambodia, Lara is still a rookie and Werner teaches her the controls etc, and during their visit here, Lara finds a backpack.
In TR5's island levels, Lara is already experienced with controls etc, and she already has her signature backpack which she found in Cambodia.
ADDED: Also, TR1-3 have expansions; in TR1 you have two additional levels after escaping tbe Atlantean Pyramid where you finish off the last mutant creatures, and afterwards she returns to the Temple of Khamoon to look for a Temple of Cats.
In the TR2 expansion, she searches for an artifact known as the golden mask.
In TR3 she learns of a fifth stone, which she obtains.
Yeah, I agree. In the Irish Island Lara already had her backpack and looked bolder than she was in Cambodia
Core Design already confirmed with the finalized time line in the official AOD companion book that Cambodia-1984 happens BEFORE Ireland-1984. Why some fans still make this mistake is beyond me.
I wonder if the video could be re-edited to correct this - caught me by surprise that the timeline was wrong :(
You know your shiz
@@Potkanka As far as I know, the source that places Ireland before Cambodia is the same source that places Lara's VCI heist of the Iris after TR3, and before TR4 - which we know is also incorrect since she has the Iris in her trophy room in TR3. The timeline from the AOD companion book places the VCI story after TR2 and before TR3 (which makes sense) and Ireland after Cambodia, so that is why I think that is the most correct version to follow.
As a huge fan of the TR series, when I first started watching this video, I was like, "Wait. TR3 was a prequel?", then I realized this commentary is very literal in the time-line of events taking place within the TR setting. Very impressive work! I am far too impressed for words. Thank you for creating this chronical.
Ah... the good ol’
Macho Broccoli!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Or my favourites:
Charles Barkley!
Barco Martolli!
Bathroom Sparkly!
Tub of Bertolli!
Or the original:
Marco Bartolli!
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This was very well put together and tied a lot of things I’ve forgotten together.. and can I just say how amazing and far the cgi and in game graphics came from their intial debut to the end of the PlayStation One era 🤯
I would love for these games to come to the Nintendo switch. Being able to play Tomb raider on the go would be amazing
yeah me too, but i doubt they'll do that since i feel like the rights would be shonky. if i were you i'd copy the ps1 games to psp instead.
Me too, perhaps something will be announced at Square Enix presents in 4 days!
Yo you can download them on your phone (tr1/2) but I tell you what it's harder than hell without actual buttons.
I feel ya! My original discs don't even work anymore. I doubt they will ever remaster these good games.
@@LoveHestia_ You hyped for the remasters?
Notice how the longest section is Angel of Darkness... that game used to have a reputation for being the black sheep of the Tomb Raider franchise, but it actually had a pretty engaging story overall (I could've sworn it was taking some inspiration from the Da Vinci code but looking at the release dates I don't think that's plausible). The weakest element of course is Kurtis Trent, but otherwise it's a solid game.
Many of Kurtis' planned abilities were cut, so he ended up playing like a weak version of Lara. If only . . .
If only the gameplay hadn't been so terrible and unpolished. Oversaturation and burnout killed off the original Tomb Raider, and it became apparent that they were churning out Lara Croft for the sake of Lara Croft rather than Tomb Raider, but it would seem that the original Lara takes all of the blame for that.
If the series had remained consistent with the first installment and better aspects of the second one, with more time and thought put into the games rather than releasing one after another year after year, the franchise would probably look much different today. All of this stuff trying to humanize Lara and focusing on combat (particularly human enemies) and the shift away from isolation and the majority of the game being spent actually exploring tombs has been for the worse.
I want more than anything just about in the world of gaming for someone to make a modern Tomb Raider that embodies what made the first game from 1996 so awesome. The intrigue, the wonder, the atmosphere, the anticipation of building up to something so exciting and otherworldly. It became more about showing off Lara Croft than having a badass Lara Croft show off the spectacular world building of the first game.
Tomb raider series took many things from movies …. Antarctica was inspired by The Thing , The Atlantean stronghold and the hive by Aliens , Wreck of the Maria doria by titanic …. Luds gate by The Rock … TR 4 by movies like the Mummy and the mummy returns . Nevada was inspired by Independence Day … tr1 natla’s mines by Indiana jones and the temple of doom … there are many more references … throughout the series lost valley by Jurassic park , crash site by The Lost World … Chronicles Contained infiltration missions a la Mission impossible …. And I could go on ….
I like how every ancient power is worthless and Lara stopped all of them
Lara truly is the ancient power of powers.
This is a fantastic video covering the timeline. I will never forget the nostalgia I have playing every original tomb raider. The music was insanely good. I miss the old games but I appreciate the modern ones as well! I don't think my favorite old ones will ever get a reboot sadly my discs don't work anymore..😔😭
My first Tomb Raider game I played was TOMB RAIDER II in 1997 and vividly remember the Venice level. I am stil a fan. But having the story condensed this way I must say. Woah, the storyline is weird. And Lara is the most destructive wrecking ball to archeological sites. Ahhh, I love her. 🤣
"Lara is attacked by a new enemy known as the damned....their leader...Bob" I know it wasn't meant to be funny, but I died laughing.
Thank you! I needed a summary because I couldn't understand completely the timeline
This brought back such amazing childhood memories!
I was looking for this video for a long time now. Even if the reboot and legend are out of this timeline, it's great to have an overhall explanation behind the Tomb Raider story.
Thank you !
The original games are some of my favourite games of all time cos they were atmospheric and challenging. The legend series is also good but not as challenging as the originals IMO and the reboot trilogy is fun but overall just feels like it's trying too hard to be like Uncharted instead of being it's own thing.
Wait, in the first game she was sixteen? And they teased her taking her shirt off? Boy talk about different times!
I know🤣🤣 I was like 👀👀
I loved this video. A great chronological video of the events of Tomb Raider. I´ve always dream it!
Kurtis was such a badass character.
no
@@multivact3729 Why not?
after the meteorite it should be Atlantis or before, I don't know. But it means that Natla's story should go from the beginning. Also young Lara already got her backpack in Tomb Raider Chronicles...so Last Revelation's Young Lara should be before that event.
All of these game deserve modern remakes, including chronicles and angel of darkness
Nah, they're gonna retcon the storylines like Anniversary did
OMFG YESSS THANK U SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS !!! TOMB RAIDER IS EVERYTHING TO ME UGGGHHH !!!!
I just started to create content and my 4m video took me nearly a week to make.. Imagine 44m! This is great work!
Nice video!! I think this is the first time that I see a video where the story or the plot of the tomb raider series was told chronologically! Well done, guys! Nice job!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@SuggestiveGaming I'm looking forward for part 2!
@@SuggestiveGaming now a days peoples are just after uncharted , love that you remember and respect TR classic , legend , rebooted story and telling us chronologically on its 25 anniversary , your efforts are remarkable , excited for remaining 2 parts , especially the 3th part ❤️
I was already in my 20's when the original released. I played it on the Saturn, as I recall. It's easy to dismiss now, but between TR and the first Resident Evil games, we were all blown away by these first games that really started to look vaguely like cinematic experiences. I can even remember telling my buddies that someday, game play graphics would look even better than the rendered cutscenes in Resident Evil 2. God I'm old.
Tomb Raider I, II, III ❤️
For me these are the only relevant entries in the whole franchise.
My favourite is the last revelation. I think it's the perfect TR (maybe on par with TR 1996)
@@Pedro_The_Neco how come? I always wonder this.
@@JoeZUGOOLA the Egypt setting fits Tomb Raider perfectly. It was my favourite set of levels from the first game.
It's a nice story arc that goes from Lara's early years until her death. It's a challenging game, with loads of puzzles. The atmosphere of isolation is captured perfectly.
It has its flaws, like poor telegraphing of where to open certain things, or where to look, sure. But to me it feels like the complete package.
Great job! It's always so good to revisit these first games. It's so nostalgic
As messy as angel of darkness was because of the rush it was an amazing game. I loved running around the Ghetto and the club lol
You made the Wreck of the Maria Dora sound so simple. That area is brutal!
I’ve never heard the store in complete order, this was so good!!!
This was so good, thank you so much, I’m so excited to watch the legend timeline now!!!
This is so awesome the you guys put this together. Thank you so much for taking the time and for me to be able to relive my childhood / teenage time
Doperoni my homie, I’m here to support one of my best boys
If you look about the whole Tomb Raider situation from a distance then you can see various bad guys aiming to raid various tombs for various items that have various super powers they want for themselves while Lara Croft simply likes rare and interesting things she likes to collect and keep at her mansion for personal display only. A view angle nobody ever mentkoned :D
Never played Chronicles so I didn't know Lara was 16 in that scene....Great look at each continuity though. I grew up with the Legend trilogy & always wanted to play the old ones.
The best Tomb Raider era
These story writers are wild! Not one single tomb raider story line has disappointed! 👏🏻
So, basically, at some point prior to 2003, the devs started reading Dan Brown novels. Got it.
5:08 FBI just about to storm into my house: ABORT ABORT!!!!!
She's 16. The Age of Consent in most of Europe is lower than 16.
@Rylando Restacruz Why are you projecting?
@Rylando Restacruz I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your mother treated you as a mother ought to. You are here for a reason. Jesus Christ loves you so much that he literally allowed himself to be tortured to death for you. Remember this whenever these negative thoughts appear.
@Rylando Restacruz Thanks and likewise!
Can't wait! 🤩
Goodness my! The plot of Angel of Darkness has so many twits
Both of you did and amazing job with this video cant wait to see what's next !
-UnchartedRaider
A 3 Part Video is needed to Explain the Time, Dang, The Tomb Raider Series is Big
Finally we know who was in Paris.
Who was in Paris?
The original Tomb Raider was my first game. I loved watching this summary.
I love this series, you guys did an awesome job with all of them. I must admit I’ve watch them too many times!
This was excellent. These games were a pillar of my childhood... thank you!
20:56 HOLD UP! Aliens? Element 115?? Treyarch zombies??? It's looking like Miss Lara Croft is the original inspiration for the story/ name of the element 115 for COD Treyarch Zombie's
Yessss I caught that too
Lara croft is now a playable character in call of duty so its probably a coincidence
AOD was the last TR game I bought.
They changed the whole vibe of the games.
Better Story than the other tomb raiders
This is the best Lara timeline. It's a shame we didn't get a satisfactory conclusion to the AoD saga.
I think the two timelines can easily be seen as one and the same, with the Crystal Dynamics games picking up where Angel of Darkness left off. You would simply need to consider Lara's backstory revealed in the Crystal Dynamics games as a retcon to that revealed in the instruction manuals of the original games, rendering the latter non-canon. Since those backstories are not mentioned in the games themselves, there is nothing in the Crystal Dynamics games that directly contradicts the events of the previous games.
I know that wasn't the intent, but it is how things are in my head-canon.
I see it too that way. And the new game seems to be the first again. It could be a remaster of all the classis. So that all 11 games can be one timeline.
Why in gods name do you want to replace the awesome backstory of classic Tomb Raider with the awful story of Tomb Raider 2013?
@@roberthartburg266 Because it's really not better at all or all that different and you're looking at it through your nostalgia glasses.
They are NOT one and the same. The contradictions are too numerous and too obvious. You might as well try to combine Christopher Nolan's Batman movies with the Tim Burton Batman movies.
@@GeonusKaikun No, he's absolutely right. The writers of the 2013 reboot played *against* the strengths of the original Lara Croft in ways that are truly baffling. It was a strategic error. Lara was cut from the cloth of James Bond, Indiana Jones, Doc Savage, Sherlock Holmes, Flash Gordon, Conan the Barbarian, and the Man with No Name. These are mythic, escapist characters from a bygone era, without the self-conscious introspection, genre deconstruction, or political obsessions of the current age. The naivete of these stories generates a certain awe. We *admire* these characters because how they handle themselves under duress, but we don't *relate* to them.
And this particular incarnation of Lara Croft is so beleaguered and self-obsessed she doesn't even seem to enjoy her own company. The game appears to think it is an origin story, but doesn't have a clear idea of how to portray the Lara Croft this one will supposedly become. She isn't half as irritating as LAU Lara, but compared to Core's Lara, she's boring as hell. Not that the TR 2013 reboot is a bad game, of course, but it's nothing like classic TR and feel as if it started off development as a different title.
In the early time line surly there was a period with the atlantian rulers (natla, qualapak and tihocan ).. I wouldn't know where they fit though 😅
@@PotkankaI agree with this!.. we need to ask plato
Tr2 has to be my favourite tomb raider game for the level in Venice with the boat. Blew my mind as a kid after that would be angel of darkness. Then would be the first game in the reboot era the story was great and multiplayer was always extremely fun I was so disappointed when rise or shadow never bothered to use it again.
Wow! 1997 Memories , those unforgettable TR2 Venice violins 🎻 I also have fond memories with , Tomb raider Chronicles was one of my favourites , it was the darkest tomb raider ; not sure about any of the reboots tho , I wouldn’t chose them over any of the 6 originals
@@QFilmz oh them violins always had my heart racing when it came on I so agree. I never did actually get to play chronicles that much to completion but I am going through them now as I bought the franchise pack on steam
@@_SYDGAMING_ I played all them 20+ years ago as they were releasing , recently I got a PS vita , I realised I could get all 5 Tomb raiders on it , so I’ve been playing them through , finishing off from where I was 20+ years ago lol I use a guide only when I get VERY stuck , I’m stubborn I wouldn’t use a guide but I was stuck on tomb raider chornicels for 6 months & left it before I finally gave in to use a guide lol
@@QFilmz lol I'm the same way mate as I'm 28. I have played most all them but some I got about half way through and just got annoyed as a kid that it was too difficult hahaha. Though since I did get the franchise pack on steam Xmas sale for 37 euros I could not say no to that it was such a steal it has every game from og to legend saga and reboot. Im enjoying the older games way more now I can actually get a grasp on most of the puzzles.
it's been so long since I've played TR on ps1. I forgot how the cutscenes were. janky yet charming. growing up with those graphics makes me appreciate what we have we today. the graphics of yesteryear still hold up to those of us who played with them, but newer gamers are all about the eye-candy and I feel don't understand what games went through to get where we are lol.
Whatever happened to the ultimate experience tomb raider collection that was supposed to come Aug. 27 of last year?
that i was looking for, not history of tomb raiders games, but story of Lara chronological :D btw first TR story is so wild xD
It would be great to see reboot of original Tomb Raider one day. Besides great work guys!
Tomb Raider 6 - The Resident Evil
This is great part of my childhood 💓 Love every TR game , thanx for making storyline
She kills a lot of dinosaurs
5:08 if the conversation never happened.....
Francine looks a lot like Janice?! Hehee guess Core Design was really constraint for time with TR:AOD. Awesome vid btw! 😎💪🏽
Love this guys! Macho Broccoli 🥦
Great video suggestive gaming, and great guest! Can't wait for LAU.
Coming soon!
My first TR game was The Last Revelation on PC but growing up I got to catch with the legend series on PS2 then the new reboot trilogy, but I've only played the rest of the original games sporadically so this timeline was confusing to me, although if I remember correctly, Ireland was after Cambodia, besides that I'm really glad to have most of the original series finally explained in chronological order.
I never knew the guides name. Rip carlos
Can we give this guy 1 million they deserve it
what? there was really a storyline that made sense? wow.
I was in the documentry for this game - ''lethal & loaded'' 🙂
While the legend timeline is my favorite there is no denying that the continuity of the classics and the amazing storytelling of these games.
To me, it'll never make sense how the Rome segment from Chronicles takes place before TR1, aside from the justification that the Philosopher Stone was one of Lara's first finds.
I get that in TR1 you shoot Larson and Pierre, but it's a less conclusive ending for them that leaves them more open to surviving... Well maybe not for Larson, but definitely for Pierre who falls an incredible height in Chronicles and you can hear him breaking his bones.
And in the Rome FMV, it's pretty clear every character already know each other, with Lara wondering where Pierre might be as Larson shows himself, so we can rule out that it's their first encounter at least (it's not in TR1 either, at least for her and Larson, am just saying it can't be taken as a definite proof for either side of the argument).
But Chronicles' writing is so messy at parts, to me it just doesn't mesh well with the rest of the series. I'll always take the Rome and the VCI sequences as "non-canon" for how much they either don't make sense in the continuity, or how badly they destroy their potential. I still believe it's better to think that Lara meets again with Verner Von Croy for the first time in The Last Revelation.
Also, the Black Island section from Chronicles is definitely taking place after The Last Revelation's Angkor Wat sequence, because in the Black Island she already has the backpack, while she finds said backpack in Angkor Wat.
My longstanding fan theory is that at some point, Larson and Pierre made the foolish decision to Raid a Tomb despite being Larson and Pierre, and not Lara Croft aka The Tomb Raider aka The Only Person in This Universe Capable of Raiding Tombs Without Consequence.
Naturally the artifact they Raided from the Tomb cursed them, specifically with immortality. Much like South Park’s Kenny McCormick, they are now cursed to die at Lara’s hand every time they meet, only to roll up like nothing happens next time she has an adventure that could use two cartoonish regional stereotypes.
Great video. Makes me wish we had a live action TR show tht would explore mythos and stuff...
Yesss lads
the AoD Story wasn't even that bad, but the unfinished Game and all the bugs oh boy & girl that was a disfigured creature by itself
The classic 90s are really rich in Adventure
Great video, although it needs mentioning that the books you talked about at 30.22 are NOT canon. The Amulet of Power wildly diverged from the plots of TR4, TR5, and AoD, missing out or radically changing pretty much EVERYTHING to the point it was obvious the author knew absolutely nothing about the source material and just wrote whatever they felt like knowing it would have the "official" stamp on it. Nothing in the book makes any sense whatever and has no continuity with the games at all. At best, they're speculative headcanon. At worst, they're mistakenly seen as official and taken as gospel, when anyone who has both read them and played the games will know that's incorrect.
That’s why I didn’t go into too much detail, and we mentioned the original plot for AOD. It was a real “damned-if-you-do or damned-if-you-don’t” situation on including them.
@@SuggestiveGaming Oh, they're damned all right xD (Especially when you read them and keep yelling "WTF THAT NEVER HAPPENED LIKE THAT?!" and upsetting your neighbours...
@@Cez24 Ah, but there's a difference between "canon" (officially acknowledged by the publisher/studio as part of the official universe/timeline) and "official" (acknowledged by the publisher/studio but not necessarily part of the official universe/timeline). Amulet of Power is the latter. It says a lot about the commission and the author that the Amulet of Power was such a substandard filler, especially when Murti Schofield *had already written* a sequence of events to bridge that gap. Why Eidos chose to invest in the Amulet of Power story/author when none of it had any connection to the games - when they literally already had a writer on their staff who had already explained everything AND the animation department had even finished fully-rendered FMVs to tell at least part of that story in AoD - is absolutely nonsensical. Really bizarre and saddening.
Yes
22:03 Hold up, does anyone else hear the Grindr notification in the background music? 😂
4:53 favorite part of the video 😂❤
Really nice video, very complete! Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
Loving this!
Seeing Lara walk into the darkness makes me really sad. Angel of Darkness is my favourite Tomb Raider game and it's upsetting that there's no sequel to it :(
You think she wouldn't fall for those trap doors but so many times
when Obi-Wan Kenobi tels a story about Lara's life, I just sit down and listen :)
Loveeed it! Thanks for it
Man.... I sure miss that, 'Frell it, let's keep things silly and awesome within our technical limitations' attitude video games used to have when i was growing up. These days it's all realism and tech specs. Wish I had experienced these games when they were new and i was still young