They're reverting chill clip back to its original 2 burst splendor (except for rapid fire frames) so a well rolled, adept deliverance will be a solid option going into final shape. Charge time masterwork, accelerated coils, cornered and chill clip with the adept charge time mod.. might sound like overkill but idk, I miss 2 burst chill clip and I'm happy it's returning.
Great vid, a few housekeeping notes: 1) given the recommendation of Elsie’s and Blast Furnace, I think Adhorative should get in there also, incandescent heal clip is a crazy combo. 2) Parabellum doesn’t get Incandescent, it does get Frenzy. 3) Subjunctive is so freaking ugly, but it grows on you, maybe because it performs so well. Maybe because I only have to look at it from the back.
There were only 4 machine guns mentioned here, and 3 of which were exotic. As a machine gun enjoyer and avid Actium war rig user, I will now give my top 5 machine guns in no particular order. I'm not including commemoration because sneaky already mentioned it... even though I think it deserves more praise being the only gun in the game to get reconstruction/killing tally. 1. Hammerhead - Crazy good perks and double damage perk potential. Rewind/killing tally or rewind/onslaught (rampage/killing tally for my fellow Actium users). 2. Song of Ir Yut - Comes with demo and a slew of other great reload and damage perks. Makes for a great weapon for any ability-focused build. Also has voltshot for arc builds. 3. Fixed odds - Hits harder than a cold one after a 5 hour pantheon run (trust me, I know). For those that would rather dive headfirst into a pit of a thousand screebs over running trials for Unwavering Duty... like myself. Field prep/incandescent. 4. Marcato-45 - Great for strand builds with demo/hatchling or demo/tricorn. It can also get onslaught, but I wouldn't recommend it because there's no good perks in the 3rd column to help it. 5. Retrofit Escapade - Everyone and their mom knows of the 4th times/target lock roll, but I've found that field prep/golden tricorn or feeding frenzy/golden tricorn with a void build and echo of domineering goes incredibly hard too.
My friend was pissed when I got the cold comfort roll after 1. Doing a CP to get navigator on first try and 2. Him helping me to get the catalyst for said navigator. I never did one full run of that dungeon 😂
for sunshot you can get it with the solar hunter new light kits from Ikora. i don’t know if the exotic weapon is the same across classes but it is an easy pick up if you haven’t claimed the kit yet
@@SneakyBeaver EP does the job but KT is the icing on the cake imo. In onslaught I try to hold enemies at bay with primary as much as possible then just switch to Gally and indebted kindness till it’s Super time🫡.
Explosive payload/one for all is fantastic on midnight, hated the gun at first but now I can't put it down. Haven't touched my Timelost Fatebringer in weeks
It's not so much the aspect of playing trials, it's more so that you are far more likely to get an edge transit god roll faster than a cataphract and given that cataphract won't be back before final shape launch outside of just dumping engrams, it's not ideal. also I (think) they are removing it from the pool in final shape as well
i was gonna say, im not sure if voltshot is still good for damage but i use the neomuna craftable fusion with lead from gold and voltshot as a damage weapon kill an add before damage and put the voltshot on the boss, also the rocket it shoots as part of the origin trait does a decent amount
The Summoner from trials is also very good for PvE. Got it to drop with heal clip + onslaught and it shreads and gives constant heals. That being said, it requires trials which is cringe but it feels well worth it
Deliverence is fine, Its just a personal preference whether you prefer to use faster rpm or not. as long as the person has either riptide or deliverence e that's really all that matters.
Couple things to mention. 1. If you're a new light, you can get Sunshot through Ikora's "New light kits" if you select Solar. Or Gravition Lance if you choose void. 2. Midnight Coup (specifically with firefly, one for all) is in contention to be the greatest be-all end-all legendary hand cannon available. Go get it if you plan on using an exotic heavy/special at any point.
Goes from 8 shots to 14 shots to make the cage which on trace rifles is nothing plus they said you can still tap fire, just slightly worse ammo economy not really that big of a deal
Sneak, may have missed it but how is Mountaintop getting nerfed? is it just through the spec mods getting removed and GLs not getting a buff due to that reason?
It happened on my main character that has done the story. I was redeeming on the sniper and after two red borders her menu glitched and it hasn’t came back.
It’s more that kinetic special weapons no longer deal bonus damage to bosses compared to strand and stasis special weapons. They could honestly give mountaintop its own buff to compensate tbh
There were already so many weapons to mention I didn't wanna just make a bloated list that made this like 40mins it's good, but a must have? dunno about that.
Bait and switch was nerfed so still. Now it is behind EL. Zoa is trash also getting hit with nerf do to mods going away. Forbearance will be if don’t have add clear kinda gun instead of must have. Etc 😂
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 LFRs lose in DPS to almost every other heavy weapon option except for LMGs. They are decent in total damage, however, do they might be a good choice in a Day One context.
@@amaurylaunay they're not best in slot but they are good in certain encounters. for example, an LFG team doing golgy. LFRs are the much safer play than having people run rocket/GL because they'll likely just kill each other because people love to strafe in wells lol
All of this just for the witness to die to Edge Transit.
I will miss reconstruct as it’s god tier perk.
We gonna be edging the witness to completion frfr 💯 🔥
envious and bait and switch on edge transit is just incredible
parabellam cant roll incandescent ..
heal clip + frenzy/ adagio is what people may want
ye that's the one, just checked my vault.
must have been thinking of calus mini tool lol
I actually really love my Heal Clip Frenzy roll
Heads up for Sunshot. You can get a Sunshot for free from Ikora by picking the Solar new light kit.
good shout
@@SneakyBeavergravaton and riskrunner are the other weapons for void and arc
They're reverting chill clip back to its original 2 burst splendor (except for rapid fire frames) so a well rolled, adept deliverance will be a solid option going into final shape. Charge time masterwork, accelerated coils, cornered and chill clip with the adept charge time mod.. might sound like overkill but idk, I miss 2 burst chill clip and I'm happy it's returning.
also the gl from duality with chill clip blinding
Great vid, a few housekeeping notes:
1) given the recommendation of Elsie’s and Blast Furnace, I think Adhorative should get in there also, incandescent heal clip is a crazy combo.
2) Parabellum doesn’t get Incandescent, it does get Frenzy.
3) Subjunctive is so freaking ugly, but it grows on you, maybe because it performs so well. Maybe because I only have to look at it from the back.
heal clip + frenzy* on parabellum
and yeah, you could use adhortative, although it also suffers from the ugly problem lol
@@SneakyBeaver in regards to Adhorative, like Subjunctive, we just gotta deal till it gets supplanted 😭😭😭 Subjunctive grows though lmao
I’m not positive but I think sun shot can also come from one of the solar new light quests they recently added.
There were only 4 machine guns mentioned here, and 3 of which were exotic. As a machine gun enjoyer and avid Actium war rig user, I will now give my top 5 machine guns in no particular order. I'm not including commemoration because sneaky already mentioned it... even though I think it deserves more praise being the only gun in the game to get reconstruction/killing tally.
1. Hammerhead - Crazy good perks and double damage perk potential. Rewind/killing tally or rewind/onslaught (rampage/killing tally for my fellow Actium users).
2. Song of Ir Yut - Comes with demo and a slew of other great reload and damage perks. Makes for a great weapon for any ability-focused build. Also has voltshot for arc builds.
3. Fixed odds - Hits harder than a cold one after a 5 hour pantheon run (trust me, I know). For those that would rather dive headfirst into a pit of a thousand screebs over running trials for Unwavering Duty... like myself. Field prep/incandescent.
4. Marcato-45 - Great for strand builds with demo/hatchling or demo/tricorn. It can also get onslaught, but I wouldn't recommend it because there's no good perks in the 3rd column to help it.
5. Retrofit Escapade - Everyone and their mom knows of the 4th times/target lock roll, but I've found that field prep/golden tricorn or feeding frenzy/golden tricorn with a void build and echo of domineering goes incredibly hard too.
Put some damn respect on chain of command
@@awstonn yall are both cooked
@@wuba7619 you really gonna tell me demo adren junkie is bad? and stasis is getting buffed
Sleeper simulant is the goat. Always a good friendly gun for people who don't play often but still want to do raids
Scatter signal is infinitely better with overflow rather than slice
slice procs strand debuff tho for artifact mods
My friend was pissed when I got the cold comfort roll after 1. Doing a CP to get navigator on first try and 2. Him helping me to get the catalyst for said navigator. I never did one full run of that dungeon 😂
for sunshot you can get it with the solar hunter new light kits from Ikora. i don’t know if the exotic weapon is the same across classes but it is an easy pick up if you haven’t claimed the kit yet
Midnight coup with Explosive payload and kinetic Tremors slaps adds and yellow bars right around😎
personally not a fan of tremors on HC with the amount of shots it takes to proc.
@@SneakyBeaver EP does the job but KT is the icing on the cake imo. In onslaught I try to hold enemies at bay with primary as much as possible then just switch to Gally and indebted kindness till it’s Super time🫡.
Explosive payload/one for all is fantastic on midnight, hated the gun at first but now I can't put it down. Haven't touched my Timelost Fatebringer in weeks
Trials is fun, has the added benefit of improving your aim. Grind for cataphract when it comes out.
It's not so much the aspect of playing trials, it's more so that you are far more likely to get an edge transit god roll faster than a cataphract and given that cataphract won't be back before final shape launch outside of just dumping engrams, it's not ideal.
also I (think) they are removing it from the pool in final shape as well
You can get sunshot from 1 of the solar starter kits at ikora.
If you picked a different subclass you can do it again on another character
good tip
i was gonna say, im not sure if voltshot is still good for damage but i use the neomuna craftable fusion with lead from gold and voltshot as a damage weapon kill an add before damage and put the voltshot on the boss, also the rocket it shoots as part of the origin trait does a decent amount
it's not
The Summoner from trials is also very good for PvE. Got it to drop with heal clip + onslaught and it shreads and gives constant heals. That being said, it requires trials which is cringe but it feels well worth it
yeah its good, just falls under the same category as cataphract. good weapon, but up to you if you want to grind trials for it.
isnt deliverance gonna be better than riptide in FS because its only gonna require two shots instead of three to freeze?
Deliverance still suffers from having a lower rpm and it doesn't have auto loading holster like riptide does
Deliverence is fine, Its just a personal preference whether you prefer to use faster rpm or not. as long as the person has either riptide or deliverence e that's really all that matters.
Happy to learn I have almost all of these. Thanks for affirmation.
How is Mountaintop getting a nerf exactly?
Never mind, I forgot about the removal of major/boss spec.
kinetic bonus damage also being removed.
deliverance has demo+chillclip and it will freeze in 2 hits after the buffs
I have a nasty kindness build glad u included this devil of a sidearm🔫🖤
Couple things to mention.
1. If you're a new light, you can get Sunshot through Ikora's "New light kits" if you select Solar. Or Gravition Lance if you choose void.
2. Midnight Coup (specifically with firefly, one for all) is in contention to be the greatest be-all end-all legendary hand cannon available. Go get it if you plan on using an exotic heavy/special at any point.
The navigator is forsure worth being on list of op weapons
Sneaky: Div is absolutely a must have
Bungie: *nerfs Div to death*
Goes from 8 shots to 14 shots to make the cage which on trace rifles is nothing plus they said you can still tap fire, just slightly worse ammo economy not really that big of a deal
"to death" is a strong way of putting it lmao
nerf is not a big deal IMO.
People are exaggerating it a lot.
Most people will use it with cenotaph in series content and that feeds you special which is where they nerfed it
Do you regard nesse slug shotgun any good, since tbh I like the looks of it
Question what is best for doomed petitioner with precision instrument? I thought envious assassin would slap
envious for encounters where you can build it up before damage otherwise you can go with reconstruction.
With chain reaction being nerfed, get an undercurrent with voltshot
Man, great video bro. First time watching the channel, I subscribed!
Sneak, may have missed it but how is Mountaintop getting nerfed? is it just through the spec mods getting removed and GLs not getting a buff due to that reason?
the main one is the Kinetic damage type weapons no longer deal bonus damage to bosses which hurts the recomb plan a bit.
ah okay, thanks goat! 🙏🏻❤️
I’m at the last step to m Divinity…need to get it finished before TFS
I use div on rhulk so I don’t have to touch thunderlord
I wish to see is a team of 6 titans, ONLY using strand, one two punch, and grapple spam on the final week of Pantheon. Test your might Guardians
Outbreak boutta go crazy next season
Been waiting for this 🎉
Shame this doesnt come in a list format to tick things off
When I go to mara sov to use my wish tokens, it says her inventory is empty
that's...odd? is it because you're on a different character that hasn't done the story?
It happened on my main character that has done the story. I was redeeming on the sniper and after two red borders her menu glitched and it hasn’t came back.
@SneakyBeaver
What weapon changes is nerfing mountaintop?! I never saw any!
It’s more that kinetic special weapons no longer deal bonus damage to bosses compared to strand and stasis special weapons. They could honestly give mountaintop its own buff to compensate tbh
kinetic damage reduction on bosses
I really want bait and switch to get nerfed so that I don't have to have crafted raid weapons to do basic dungeon content.
Can’t believe Lingering Dread with blinding/auto-loading/chill clip wasn’t mentioned.
There were already so many weapons to mention I didn't wanna just make a bloated list that made this like 40mins
it's good, but a must have? dunno about that.
@@SneakyBeaver I think with the chill clip revert it may become a must, but we will see
Pardon our dust with auto loading vorpal
I believe you get sunshot from picking a solar loadout from Ikora
Throne cleaver is extremely close to bequest in damage
didn't say its damage is bad, just that it has awful swing speed lol
@@SneakyBeaverheavily implying that it's much worse lmao
We need to talk about Smite of Merain going into Final Shape
Smite is actually my favorite pulse going all the way back to D1 lol
just wanted to keep the list somewhat reasonable.
You need to put pictures of the god rolls not just the gun and useless background video
why are you farming Hefnd like that? going up higher and stuff, what about totems
I have NEVER seen anyone use Touch of malice…the end😂
sounds like you haven't watched enough of my shorts :)
@@SneakyBeaver guess not…lol
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Bait and switch was nerfed so still. Now it is behind EL. Zoa is trash also getting hit with nerf do to mods going away. Forbearance will be if don’t have add clear kinda gun instead of must have. Etc 😂
you should probably add chapters to this vid
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6:47 MnK show off 🥲
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Cataclysmic lost its purpose when the linear nerf hit, forbearance is heading down the same path in final shape
Can’t really compare a DPS weapon to an add clearing one. I doubt forbearance’s nerf will affect it enough where it’s not useable
Linear fusion rifles are still very good at dps.
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 LFRs lose in DPS to almost every other heavy weapon option except for LMGs. They are decent in total damage, however, do they might be a good choice in a Day One context.
@@amaurylaunay they're not best in slot but they are good in certain encounters. for example, an LFG team doing golgy. LFRs are the much safer play than having people run rocket/GL because they'll likely just kill each other because people love to strafe in wells lol
@@SneakyBeaveri agree but esp with whisper getting the sniper buff i feel like it outclasses
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Who wanna help me get div 😭
Guys if you really want to enjoy the new dlc just use something different. Using the same old things makes everything stale
This is clearly for people who are going for Day 1 or are competitive and want to use the best of the best. Not for the average player 😁
this isn't a video telling you that you MUST prep.
this is for people who already willingly WANT to prep.
Wish more people were like this. I look at my friends list this season and just constantly see Riptide, sunshot and Apex as the loadout
No final warning??? It is the best strand primary and its damage output is only beat by lucky pants hand cannons
bungie has already said they're fixing it in final shape.
@@SneakyBeaver fixing what? Theres nothing broken about it
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