My dad almost banned this game from my brother and I because all he could hear from his office 1 door down in our house was the sound of stormtroopers dying in agony lol. He was like "MY ASS THIS IS LESS VIOLENT THAN GOLDENEYE AND HALF LIFE!" He was a great dad though, and I turned out great so he's okay with it now.
@theFareulookinat Considering the state of the industry now, with the overemphasize on everything online at the cost of story-driven campaigns, not including a multiplayer mode in an AAA action title should perhaps be seen as the promising choice.
@theFareulookinat you think the game is bad just because it has no dismemberment or multiplayer? It’s not called Jedi Knight: Fallen Order... it’s a great game in its own right.
One of my most favorite games of all time. Pretty much the only Star Wars game in which the developers understood how lightsabers work (or would work); they SLICE things. It seems like in every other SW game the lightsaber is just an electrified glowy bat with which you just hit people until they fall (The Force Unleashed, Battelfront II, etc.). Characters in Jedi Outcast have their limbs chopped of, just as it's suppossed to be (even better if you introduce the dismemberment cheat)
I think that's because they want to make games for talentless kids as well. Imagine an 11 year old playing Jedi Knight, he'd get totally destroyed. Lightsabers are punishing, that's why they're so effective, Force Unleashed games sucked just because of that. Who would want to make 6 hit combos on a single stormtrooper with a lightsaber?
The best part to me was all the secret moves and maneuvers you could pull off. I remember pressing tons of different button combos and trying different things to see what would happen. Many of them were super useful and in the multiplayer. And since this was the days where looking something up on the internet was in its infancy, you really felt great when you discovered a new maneuver all by yourself.
I just loved the rawness of the game. Like, it had a sandbox feel to it, as if you were playing the game in dev mode. No "return to battlefield", no unnecessary invisible walls (unless they just didn't develop that part of the map). Complete utter freedom. That's what I miss about the 00s games.
They should just start making real games again in general instead of free games that are full of microtransactions and loot boxes and are nothing but Battle Royale
+blackknightkanos Yeah I agree. The new Battlefront's graphics are amazing. If it had clone wars, space battles, etc it would have been amazing. I would love to see a remake of this game too. It would be awesome to play this game with Battlefront like graphics.
Of all the Star Wars games I have played this one is probably my favorite. That partly is to do with Kyle Katarn being my favorite Star Wars character period. Yes I am ticked with Disney for declaring his adventures non-canonical. Won't stop me from enjoying them though.
@@Someonece I'd recommend at least watching it and coming to your own conclusions. It's not quite as bad as screaming heads on youtube say, although it does have some serious issues. Still would have preferred a Thrawn trilogy though
Its canon for the people who appreciate Star Wars. Disney's in little danger of making good enough content to make us take their "canon" seriously anyway so why pretend like theyve got any say in what's canon. We already got our sequels in books, comics, and games
Jedi Outcast was apparently built ontop of Star Trek Voyager Elite Force. If you play both games back to back you'll notice a lot of similarities with how the weapons handle, the particle effects and general texture/level design similarities. One of the developers of Outcast even stated in the earliest build of the game Stormtroopers were Klingons that were textured white. The game was also released at around the same time as Soldier of Fortune 2 and there are clearly a lot of similarities between the two. Like how they both share a lot of the same animations.
Situations103 No fucking way i know everyone has their own opinion BUT HOW!? the story is so amazing Kreia is one of the best characters i have ever seen
OverSizedMidget Funny, I think Kreia is possibly the most annoying Star Wars character of all time. If I want to listen to 4+ hours of vapid, pseudo-philosophical meditations on the nature of the universe, I'll just download a recording of a random self-help guru. At least their faux-mysticism is grounded in the real world.
Above all, I remember the honorable online duels and all the etiquette surrounding it. It was mandatory to bow to your opponents for example and woe to you if you ever attacked someone who had their lightsaber deactivated.
Yeah, this game had the best Lightsaber duelling. Other games didn't do any good with the lightsaber. Battlefront 2 just has 3 hit attacks (it makes sense though as that game focuses more on soilders and wars) and Force Unleashed having one button combo attacks. Episode 3 game had good fighting but it wasn't very "realistic". Academy also ruined the duelling with dual sabers and double bladed sabers. If you had a dual or double bladed, you can easily defeat anyone with one saber. The dueling itself also seems to be downgraded in that game. Basicly, this game had the best, realistic atacking, defending and a few cool moves (Academy got too far with so many moves).
I remember. Those servers confused the shit out of me as a kid. Honestly I didn't like that at all but it was cool that people would do stuff like that you konw.
I had alot of fun memories of this game . This is the best Star Warsgame ever made and you really felt like a true Jedi Knight in this game and it had a great story . This game even tops The Force Unleashed .
Hey, sorry. As fun and awesome as this game is. Kyle Katarn is FAR from what a Jedi Knight is. For starters, Jedi Knights don't go around slaughtering everything in their path. :P
I just love the Jedi Knight series. Dark Forces, Battlefront, KOTOR, and X-wing/Tie-fighter are the best Star Wars games series, and what they should build upon. Imagine a Jedi Knight game in a new game engine...
Same, I never understood the complaints. Kejim Base has to be one of the most well-designed and believable Star Wars video game locales ever made. The mines dragged on a liiiitle too long to be fair. I remember a guy at gamestop telling me to use cheats to get the lightsaber immediately because the first levels are boring but they set you up so well to feel the power of progression from mercenary to Jedi/mercenary hybrid.
I’ve never played the multiplayer on this or Jedi Academy because I have no interest in it, so I never will. I bought Jedi Academy for the story and then I found out it has multiplayer and I went “Nah, I’m good, single player is always better.”
This was also ones of those games where it was equally fun to use cheat codes as it was to play legally. You could access things which was not possible otherwise, for eg changing saber colour, being able to play NPC's with "setmindtrick 4" or flying an X-wing (which was pretty much impossible because the maps weren't large enough but still pretty cool). Or you could just start off with your lightsaber with maxed force powers from the start, feeling like a badass jedi without waiting for that until the end of the game.
Just played through it for the very 1st time on the original Xbox after buying it at a retro gaming store in Central Texas. Here at the end of good ol' 2016. Cutting edge modern graphics be damned. This game rocks. Very difficult in some areas, but like KOTOR it manages to make you feel very much like you're inside the SW universe. I've been gaming since 1982 and this is one of my favorite games of all time.
this game is awesome and lots of fun. i love the slow progress, you can't just become a jedi in 10 mins, it takes years of practice, and that's how good games should be, it gives you something to expect to, and once you become a true jedi you know you earned it. many games are just ruined by the fact that you get all the weapon on start and there's just nothing new for the rest of the game
5:22 wouldn't this be a good thing? Pacing is important and it's one of the major things that the prequel films got wrong. I personally like that they tried making the first few levels like the previous Dark Forces games, so that players of those games will feel right at home and can easily pick up and start playing this one. If this game were like Jedi Academy, and literally gave you a lightsaber as soon as you started the first level, I think it would cheapen the overall experience. That game really heavilly exploits the prequels though, whereas this game feels like a good mixture of Shadows of the Empire's combat and level design (in the early stages) mixed in with the Original (only) trilogy, and it's neat to come face to face with memorable characters from those movies and even be able to fight alongside some of them. EDIT: Also, isn't patience one of the fundementals of the force? Yoda and Obiwan both teach that having patience can really help you develop your abilities and that recklessness early on can get you killed or in trouble if you're not careful.
This was the best Kyle Katarn game by far. I played it through so many times. I also remember using console commands to do some crazy stuff. There was a room with cutting lasers that had to be disabled to get through. I turned them off, spawned 50 Landos in the room, and then turned them on. As the lasers hit the Landos they all say "hey! watch it buddy!" then after getting hit too many times they all started blasting each other. To this day I crack up thinking about it. Then there was a level where you sneak into Bespin. The door is at the bottom and is actually an air exhaust that has to be timed or you get blown off the platform. You might have guessed. I spawned a ton of Landos right in front of the door and laughed as they echoed "whoa!!" as they each got blown off the platform one after another in rapid succession. Jokes aside, the story was great. The locations and weapons were great. I really enjoyed this game, and would love another like it. It was as good as KOTOR, but had a different feel to it. It was one of the 3 great series of SW games. For me they are 1. the fighter simulator games of X-Wing with it's two expansions and TIE Fighter with it's one expansion. Then 2. the Kyle Katarn games of Dark Forces/Jedi Knight. And finally, 3. KOTOR and KOTOR II. Those were the games that made it feel like you were part of the Star Wars Universe, and not just playing a game with SW characters. Don't get me wrong, there were other good games. But those 3 series to me were the best at making me get lost in the story and enjoy myself.
Of course enemies don't sit still, this is not a modern dumbed down shooter with switches and keys labeled like a KISS concert. Those are for whiny kids that don't have gaming skills, Jedi Knight is for more matured gamer that can handle himself and explore around, not to mention the fine tunning of the lightsabre handling where you could direct/change the swing path and make combos. Did you know about that?
I think part of the problem is that the weapons were not fun or effective enough to fight the frenetic and fidgety enemies in JO. For example: Return to Castle Wolfenstein had similar enemy AI, but the weapons were pretty powerful, and you were able to hit your target. The blasters and other weapons are pretty much weak, and it takes forever to hit them. I know that some can be killed laser shots in the head if done right, but that requires quick reflexes and skill against the frenetic enemies. Though, I admit, Force Speed makes it much easier to hit enemies with the weak weapons.
No, the fps portion of Jedi outcast felt off exactly for that reason. The enemies were too dodgy / fast, while the weapons were very inaccurate and had a slow rate of fire (very unlike a standard fps of that age). And this combined created a frustrating experience. Its still got ok shooter mechanics, but its the lightsaber and force combat that give it the legendary status it has.
The weapons aren't hitscan, is the problem. You need to lead your shots against enemies who sporadically move back and forth, so you just end up holding down the alt fire on the stormtrooper rifle until everyone is dead. Makes no difference how "old school" or "hardcore" you pretend to be, the weapons just aren't up to the task. Those other "old school shooters" have precise, fast weapons, which is why you can snipe an imp halfway across the map with a shotgun while strafing at 30 mph. This game doesn't have that, so yeah it's frustrating. The shooting in this game is nowhere near the level of Half-Life or Quake and I think that's a legitimate criticism, considering you have to deal with it for 5 hours and on terrible levels like Nar Shaddaa.
Snacks256 But that kind of 'shooting' is one of the cornerstones of Star Wars IP, that comical spraying of the blasters through corridors while hitting only a few times. In that sense they did the IP proud and kept the feeling. On the other hand I remember using other weapons more anyway so it didn't bother me at all...
I personally loved how you didn't start out with a lightsaber. It made obtaining the lightsaber that much more satisfying and rewarding. the levels leading up to it were badass too. I thought raiding Kejim Outpost at night was sick.
I use to play the heck of this game after I got my laptop for Christmas. This is one of my favorite star war games, and it's sad that they happen't use the combat style for future star wars games after Jedi academy.
I did all of em. From Dark Forces one and two, to Jedi Knight 2. Damn I was so young I forgot about Forces. The one I played the most though was Dark Forces 2. Fucking great game
When I played this game I used dismemberment codes so that enemies could be chopped up to smaller pieces. It also caused weird but fun side effect to "final bosses" who sometimes just jumped off the edges and fell down to their deaths.
On my first playthrough of this game back when it came out, after every lightsaber battle I'd reload and replay the whole fight multiple times before I'd had enough. After finishing it I must've replayed the final boss fight a hundred times. I've been playing video games since Lode Runner, and I've never done that in any other game.
This and Kotor 2 have to be my favorite SW games ever. first time I played this I was hooked and wasn't bothered much by the slow start. however nar shadaa wanted my snap the disc over my knee.
Found this video on the steam community page for the game. haha Your production quality has improved a lot. I think it would be cool to see you review the Jedi Outcast series with your updated format.
The level right before the jedi retraining is an absolute nightmare, with no force powers and lightsaber against all the stormtroopers and laser cannons in a wide open area.. .after that the Rodians with their Tenloss disruptor rifles was a piece of cake.It does take quite a long time though.
I found that the best tactic to use against the Reborn was Force Grip followed by Saber Throw. If it connects, it's an instant kill. It was also fun to Force Grip them and then drop them off ledges. Or do a high jump and drop them at the apex of it. For some reason, they can jump just as high as Kyle, but if you carry them up and then drop them, it damages or kills them. I also liked Force Pulling stormtroopers while in the air and then watching the whole squad go crashing back to the ground.
Dear ggmanlives. Thank-you!!!! for the spoilers warning at the beginning of the video. Because of that you have lost yourself 1 view on this video.. but earned yourself a subscriber. I appreciate shit like that
The lightsaber combat in this game was incredible. I know JKA added some neat new wrinkles, but JK2 felt more balanced and ultimately feels better in the long run.
I played both the console and PC version and they pretty much funktion the same, really solid games and you know that's true when you can play it on multiple platforms and know exactly what you're doing and where you're at and you aren't too confused
I gave up at the really hard mission just after getting a lightsaber, but watching you play the later levels...I think i should just shut up and push on
I remember when this came out, omg... What a year that was! I played the PISS outta the multiplayer component in this game. Honestly, it's one of the most fun single and multiplayer gaming experiences I've ever had - period.
@@dearimena7466 Good for you.I'm waiting for Jedi Fallen Order in november.I hope it's gonna be good.Reminds me alot of Jedi Academy and Force Unleashed due to those lightsaber fightings
The biggest selling point of this game, were the saber duels. Yes you could totally cheese fights with cheap tactics (choke+throw, lightning, crouch+forward+attack combo oneshot just to name a few), but an honest 1 v 1 duel and being able to kill even the simplest enemies while holding back with nothing but sword skill was a phenomenal feeling. Especially with the one where you jumpflip over an enemy and slash at their heads. It was harder to pull of and more satisfying. Also yeah, for second playthrough I too did cheat in the lightsaber and powers.
I agree with literally everything you said here. My only complaint is a tiny, nerd nitpick - Nar Shaddaa is a moon, not a planet. Also, anyone who does get this game, try the multiplayer mode called "Jedi Master", it's a lot of fun. It starts everyone with no Force Powers or lightsaber, and spawns weapons on the map. It also places one lightsaber somewhere on the map.. Once someone picks up the lightsaber, they become the Jedi Master, and gain maximum ranks in all Force abilities, but can ONLY use the lightsaber and the Force (that is, no guns or explosives). Also, everyone else on the map instantly joins a team _against_ the Jedi Master. Only the Jedi Master can earn points. If someone kills the Jedi Master, the lightsaber jumps out of their corpse towards the person who killed them.
I bought this game when I was 13, knowing nothing about, and I really enjoyed the first levels. However, when I first got my hands on the lightsaber at 5:24... I felt like my life had changed. The game makes a complete 180° turn.
I'm doing it again... for the 10th times at least. I don't know if it's nostalgia, or me getting old and bitter, but man those games were so good. Great story, great combat (even if the enemies moving so erraticly are hard to shoot before you got powers), good duration. I think every single one of us are dreaming of a JK4 with the Battlefront engine... Which probably won't ever happend.
This game, Kotor, Battlefront classic, and even the lego games made me love star wars even more. I pumped countless hours into jedi outcast. Its even better than academy.
Great and well structured review, mate... You might have specified that Kyle renounced his force powers because of what happened on Dromund Kaas in Mysteries of The Sith (which I don't think you reviewed?)...
A few years ago I rolled through all of these again. Once you get used to the graphics and slight clumsiness compared to current games these games really shine.
I totally agree with your review. I love Jedi Knight 2. It's so fun hacking enemies with your lightsaber and using force powers to thrown people across the room. I also agree that it can be really frustrating trying to figure out where to go and alot of times you can get stumped and it can take a lot of searching for things. But once you get to Cloud City the game gets incredibly fun! You just have to get through the first half of the game. I just wish the regular weapons still had some use after you get the lightsaber. Mostly I never use them again, because the lightsaber is just so useful and realy helps with defense.
*SPOILER WARNING* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jan is not murdered in front of Kyle's eyes. Tavion takes her into the shuttle, and then imitates it. The act is never shown, so the player and Kyle think Jan was murdered, when it actually didn't happen
I think he intentionally "ruined" Jan's death so that her reappeance is still the surprise its supposed to be. Had he left it at, she's captured, then people who play the game after this review wouldn't be shocked that she wasn't killed cuz in the review it stated she was only captured instead. :P
The best strategy I've found when dealing with saber enemies is to grip them then immediately use force speed to run up to them and hack them to pieces.
This was the first 3D game that really impressed with its graphics. In the late 90s the 3D always felt so stiff and ugly. This was awesome and felt like a proper Star Wars game! And I loved how it reminded of Dark Forces in the FPS.
I really love the character progression in this game. From Force-less merc to unstoppable Jedi. It's really satisfying. My only complaint, is like you said, sometimes you don't know where you're going and a few of the puzzles are a little crazy. They toned the difficulty down a bit too much in Jedi Academy though. I just played through recently and I was surprised how well it holds up.
Very memorable for me as this was one of the first couple of PC games I came home with for my first desktop build in the spring of 2004. I didn't know that about Mark Hamill and Soldier of Fortune II... ...but SoFII was the other 1st-person shooters that Spring of '04 for me I took in. Oh, and the stormtroopers running backwards - memorable. :P Good review.
they really need to remake this entire series for current gen. Ive never played through the entire Dark Forces and now its practically impossible. JK:DF II and JK:JO are two of my favorite SW games (along with the KOTOR's)
Weird, did you use the Yellow Mode (for the Lightsaber ) when reviewing this game? Coz i didn't see you use the Red Mode or Blue mode at all tbh. Also no mention of the funny cheats this game has? Like noclip and various others (i cant say at the top of my head right now coz i haven't played this game for a couple of years.) The cheats are probably one of the strong points of the game. Anyway still a good review nonetheless.
Wow, what a great game! At the time the graphics and physics were sick, and ran seamlessly on my old Pentium III 600 MHz with a RIVA TNT2 32 Mb. Good old days...
There’s one question I’ve always wanted 2 know about this game: The “Jedi Knight” which came out before this one was excellent & had u playing in 1st person perspective, which I loved. Footage I’ve always seen 4 this one always show u with your saber in 3rd person (which I personally don’t care for). Does this game also give u the option 2 play entirely in 1st person view as well, I hope?
Yes, you can switch to 1st person view with lightsaber. There is a button for switching between 1st and 3rd person view. The same is true for the first Jedi Knight (Dark Forces II) and also the Jedi Academy game.
@@ThatDovaDude Actually, I found the manual and it says, you can switch between the 1st and 3rd person using the "P" key. Here is the manual (STEAM) - look for page 5: steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/6030/manuals/Jedi_Outcast_Manual.pdf?t=1560979586 Also on Steam there is a topic about this: steamcommunity.com/app/6020/discussions/0/558753804335443688/
How do you get to the jedi arena mode? I bought this game for pc and wanted to go back to owning on jedi arena but It doesn't show on the main menu it only shows new ,load,controls, and setup please help!
Also known as stormtrooper genocide simulator.
Haha! True.
My dad almost banned this game from my brother and I because all he could hear from his office 1 door down in our house was the sound of stormtroopers dying in agony lol. He was like "MY ASS THIS IS LESS VIOLENT THAN GOLDENEYE AND HALF LIFE!"
He was a great dad though, and I turned out great so he's okay with it now.
you could use console commands to enable the lightsaber to chop of limbs, the command is ' 'g_saberRealisticCombat 1' if I remember correctly.
Once I get far enough in the game, I choose to disarm them.... Some of them somehow manage to get their weapons back and start shooting again.
@Token Black Dismemberment mod.
We seriously need another jedi knight game.
+Gabe Newell Very well said, I had some kid tell me that cause Battlefront is pretty and sounds like star wars, that it is great, and worth $120
Yes.
SEriously.... Yes!
@theFareulookinat Considering the state of the industry now, with the overemphasize on everything online at the cost of story-driven campaigns, not including a multiplayer mode in an AAA action title should perhaps be seen as the promising choice.
@theFareulookinat you think the game is bad just because it has no dismemberment or multiplayer? It’s not called Jedi Knight: Fallen Order... it’s a great game in its own right.
One of my most favorite games of all time. Pretty much the only Star Wars game in which the developers understood how lightsabers work (or would work); they SLICE things. It seems like in every other SW game the lightsaber is just an electrified glowy bat with which you just hit people until they fall (The Force Unleashed, Battelfront II, etc.). Characters in Jedi Outcast have their limbs chopped of, just as it's suppossed to be (even better if you introduce the dismemberment cheat)
I think that's because they want to make games for talentless kids as well. Imagine an 11 year old playing Jedi Knight, he'd get totally destroyed.
Lightsabers are punishing, that's why they're so effective, Force Unleashed games sucked just because of that. Who would want to make 6 hit combos on a single stormtrooper with a lightsaber?
I beat the thing when I was 10 on Jedi knight, then master, all before I discovered quicksaves. Fun as hell.
also: Fletchgun for life.
You like this one more than the previous 2?
man this game was awesome... even the graphics still hold up... hard to believe it was 13 years ago.
raven software did some good games!
The best part to me was all the secret moves and maneuvers you could pull off. I remember pressing tons of different button combos and trying different things to see what would happen. Many of them were super useful and in the multiplayer. And since this was the days where looking something up on the internet was in its infancy, you really felt great when you discovered a new maneuver all by yourself.
I just loved the rawness of the game. Like, it had a sandbox feel to it, as if you were playing the game in dev mode. No "return to battlefield", no unnecessary invisible walls (unless they just didn't develop that part of the map). Complete utter freedom. That's what I miss about the 00s games.
Yeah bot hthis and Star Trek Voyager Elite |Force were both good games. by them.
Eastern Abrams 17 now lol
@@planescaped
Game sucks. Dark forces 2 is good.
Raven Software should be allowed to make real games again!
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix (2002) this game need nice remake also ;)
And I Want Another Third-Person Heretic Game
They should just start making real games again in general instead of free games that are full of microtransactions and loot boxes and are nothing but Battle Royale
i love the xmen game they made and among other games
free them from the cod mines.
This game needs a reboot. Like damn imagine this with the new Battlefront graphics.
***** I know there are many problems with Battlefront, but I appreciate the things it gets right.
+blackknightkanos Yeah I agree. The new Battlefront's graphics are amazing. If it had clone wars, space battles, etc it would have been amazing.
I would love to see a remake of this game too. It would be awesome to play this game with Battlefront like graphics.
look up in moddb.com, there's a guy doing a remake for jedi outcast.
This game aged amazing why the fuck do you want it to be ruined
This game series needs a SEQUEL. The end of Jedi Academy just screamed that. Either the light or dark endings could be used to set up another game.
Of all the Star Wars games I have played this one is probably my favorite. That partly is to do with Kyle Katarn being my favorite Star Wars character period.
Yes I am ticked with Disney for declaring his adventures non-canonical. Won't stop me from enjoying them though.
@@Someonece I'd recommend at least watching it and coming to your own conclusions. It's not quite as bad as screaming heads on youtube say, although it does have some serious issues.
Still would have preferred a Thrawn trilogy though
Clyde Marshall it’s canon to me
Its canon for the people who appreciate Star Wars. Disney's in little danger of making good enough content to make us take their "canon" seriously anyway so why pretend like theyve got any say in what's canon. We already got our sequels in books, comics, and games
Disney is not canonical.kyle is. But I'm sure you already know that.
@@SonofSethoitae
Game is no good
Jedi Outcast was apparently built ontop of Star Trek Voyager Elite Force. If you play both games back to back you'll notice a lot of similarities with how the weapons handle, the particle effects and general texture/level design similarities. One of the developers of Outcast even stated in the earliest build of the game Stormtroopers were Klingons that were textured white.
The game was also released at around the same time as Soldier of Fortune 2 and there are clearly a lot of similarities between the two. Like how they both share a lot of the same animations.
This game with dismemberment and dynamic shadows on is beast.
+DiegoAlanTorres69 g_saberrealisticcombat 1, I'm playing now actually. Easily one of the best games I've played. Ever.
Sadly makes the game way too easy, but it is very fun.
BloggingLP dismemberment and dynamic shadows on makes the game too easy?
How do you enable dynamic shadows?
Quake3 engine and lightsaber combat. If you like star wars and fps games, this is all the info you need.
in fact one of the few quake 3 engine games.. i really loved that engine , for some reason.
I love Star Wars and I love FPS games,def buying it after this video
except for the fact that the blaster combat in the game is honestly quite terrible.
argubly the best star wars game ever
+ilya solomkin kotor kotor2 in my opinion they are better
+ilya solomkin Kotor and Dark Forces II are better.
KOTOR 2 is shit.
Situations103 No fucking way i know everyone has their own opinion BUT HOW!?
the story is so amazing Kreia is one of the best characters i have ever seen
OverSizedMidget Funny, I think Kreia is possibly the most annoying Star Wars character of all time. If I want to listen to 4+ hours of vapid, pseudo-philosophical meditations on the nature of the universe, I'll just download a recording of a random self-help guru.
At least their faux-mysticism is grounded in the real world.
Situations103 Odd
One of the best games of all time, OF ALL TIMEEEEE !
***** I blame myself for not playing KotOR D:
Above all, I remember the honorable online duels and all the etiquette surrounding it. It was mandatory to bow to your opponents for example and woe to you if you ever attacked someone who had their lightsaber deactivated.
Yeah, this game had the best Lightsaber duelling. Other games didn't do any good with the lightsaber. Battlefront 2 just has 3 hit attacks (it makes sense though as that game focuses more on soilders and wars) and Force Unleashed having one button combo attacks. Episode 3 game had good fighting but it wasn't very "realistic". Academy also ruined the duelling with dual sabers and double bladed sabers. If you had a dual or double bladed, you can easily defeat anyone with one saber. The dueling itself also seems to be downgraded in that game. Basicly, this game had the best, realistic atacking, defending and a few cool moves (Academy got too far with so many moves).
And all in the days before people widely used the internet. It was just understood.
I remember. Those servers confused the shit out of me as a kid. Honestly I didn't like that at all but it was cool that people would do stuff like that you konw.
I had alot of fun memories of this game . This is the best Star Warsgame ever made and you really felt like a true Jedi Knight in this game and it had a great story . This game even tops The Force Unleashed .
Hey, sorry. As fun and awesome as this game is. Kyle Katarn is FAR from what a Jedi Knight is. For starters, Jedi Knights don't go around slaughtering everything in their path. :P
I just love the Jedi Knight series. Dark Forces, Battlefront, KOTOR, and X-wing/Tie-fighter are the best Star Wars games series, and what they should build upon. Imagine a Jedi Knight game in a new game engine...
If done right, that would be amazing! Most likely we would get a force unleashed style game though.
I loved the first few missions without a lightsaber. They're some good old school fps sprawling puzzle levels.
Same, I never understood the complaints. Kejim Base has to be one of the most well-designed and believable Star Wars video game locales ever made. The mines dragged on a liiiitle too long to be fair. I remember a guy at gamestop telling me to use cheats to get the lightsaber immediately because the first levels are boring but they set you up so well to feel the power of progression from mercenary to Jedi/mercenary hybrid.
"The best jedi simulator." Exactly! And still my favorite Star Wars game ever, also for the multiplayer
Maybe sith simulater..... Kyle is the worst representative of a jedi's way of life. He makes Mace Windu look like a goodie two shoes.
I’ve never played the multiplayer on this or Jedi Academy because I have no interest in it, so I never will. I bought Jedi Academy for the story and then I found out it has multiplayer and I went “Nah, I’m good, single player is always better.”
This was also ones of those games where it was equally fun to use cheat codes as it was to play legally. You could access things which was not possible otherwise, for eg changing saber colour, being able to play NPC's with "setmindtrick 4" or flying an X-wing (which was pretty much impossible because the maps weren't large enough but still pretty cool). Or you could just start off with your lightsaber with maxed force powers from the start, feeling like a badass jedi without waiting for that until the end of the game.
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Anyone else get nightmares from that section in the mine with the ankle chompers hiding around every corner?
The only time I wish I have the high ground.
Just played through it for the very 1st time on the original Xbox after buying it at a retro gaming store in Central Texas. Here at the end of good ol' 2016. Cutting edge modern graphics be damned. This game rocks. Very difficult in some areas, but like KOTOR it manages to make you feel very much like you're inside the SW universe. I've been gaming since 1982 and this is one of my favorite games of all time.
this game is awesome and lots of fun. i love the slow progress, you can't just become a jedi in 10 mins, it takes years of practice, and that's how good games should be, it gives you something to expect to, and once you become a true jedi you know you earned it. many games are just ruined by the fact that you get all the weapon on start and there's just nothing new for the rest of the game
"the planet of Nar Shaddaa". The term planet hurt a bit. Tells me I am too much of a SW Nerd :D
It's a planet though isn't it?
Its a moon.
It's a moon of Nal Hutta, the Hutt home planet
The games gave me the impression that Nar Shadaa is a city in space.
+Gggmanlives Just star wars Canon shit.
So fascinating to hear a review without "Your mum" jokes or overt Australian slang.
and without the explosive fart sounds effect :P
Been working through lots of your reviews. Great to see a good Aussie game reviewer with the same taste in games as me. Keep it up!
5:22 wouldn't this be a good thing? Pacing is important and it's one of the major things that the prequel films got wrong. I personally like that they tried making the first few levels like the previous Dark Forces games, so that players of those games will feel right at home and can easily pick up and start playing this one. If this game were like Jedi Academy, and literally gave you a lightsaber as soon as you started the first level, I think it would cheapen the overall experience. That game really heavilly exploits the prequels though, whereas this game feels like a good mixture of Shadows of the Empire's combat and level design (in the early stages) mixed in with the Original (only) trilogy, and it's neat to come face to face with memorable characters from those movies and even be able to fight alongside some of them.
EDIT: Also, isn't patience one of the fundementals of the force? Yoda and Obiwan both teach that having patience can really help you develop your abilities and that recklessness early on can get you killed or in trouble if you're not careful.
This was the best Kyle Katarn game by far. I played it through so many times. I also remember using console commands to do some crazy stuff. There was a room with cutting lasers that had to be disabled to get through. I turned them off, spawned 50 Landos in the room, and then turned them on. As the lasers hit the Landos they all say "hey! watch it buddy!" then after getting hit too many times they all started blasting each other. To this day I crack up thinking about it. Then there was a level where you sneak into Bespin. The door is at the bottom and is actually an air exhaust that has to be timed or you get blown off the platform. You might have guessed. I spawned a ton of Landos right in front of the door and laughed as they echoed "whoa!!" as they each got blown off the platform one after another in rapid succession.
Jokes aside, the story was great. The locations and weapons were great. I really enjoyed this game, and would love another like it. It was as good as KOTOR, but had a different feel to it. It was one of the 3 great series of SW games. For me they are 1. the fighter simulator games of X-Wing with it's two expansions and TIE Fighter with it's one expansion. Then 2. the Kyle Katarn games of Dark Forces/Jedi Knight. And finally, 3. KOTOR and KOTOR II. Those were the games that made it feel like you were part of the Star Wars Universe, and not just playing a game with SW characters. Don't get me wrong, there were other good games. But those 3 series to me were the best at making me get lost in the story and enjoy myself.
Of course enemies don't sit still, this is not a modern dumbed down shooter with switches and keys labeled like a KISS concert. Those are for whiny kids that don't have gaming skills, Jedi Knight is for more matured gamer that can handle himself and explore around, not to mention the fine tunning of the lightsabre handling where you could direct/change the swing path and make combos. Did you know about that?
You're pretty cool.
I think part of the problem is that the weapons were not fun or effective enough to fight the frenetic and fidgety enemies in JO. For example: Return to Castle Wolfenstein had similar enemy AI, but the weapons were pretty powerful, and you were able to hit your target. The blasters and other weapons are pretty much weak, and it takes forever to hit them. I know that some can be killed laser shots in the head if done right, but that requires quick reflexes and skill against the frenetic enemies. Though, I admit, Force Speed makes it much easier to hit enemies with the weak weapons.
No, the fps portion of Jedi outcast felt off exactly for that reason. The enemies were too dodgy / fast, while the weapons were very inaccurate and had a slow rate of fire (very unlike a standard fps of that age). And this combined created a frustrating experience. Its still got ok shooter mechanics, but its the lightsaber and force combat that give it the legendary status it has.
The weapons aren't hitscan, is the problem. You need to lead your shots against enemies who sporadically move back and forth, so you just end up holding down the alt fire on the stormtrooper rifle until everyone is dead. Makes no difference how "old school" or "hardcore" you pretend to be, the weapons just aren't up to the task. Those other "old school shooters" have precise, fast weapons, which is why you can snipe an imp halfway across the map with a shotgun while strafing at 30 mph. This game doesn't have that, so yeah it's frustrating. The shooting in this game is nowhere near the level of Half-Life or Quake and I think that's a legitimate criticism, considering you have to deal with it for 5 hours and on terrible levels like Nar Shaddaa.
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But that kind of 'shooting' is one of the cornerstones of Star Wars IP, that comical spraying of the blasters through corridors while hitting only a few times. In that sense they did the IP proud and kept the feeling.
On the other hand I remember using other weapons more anyway so it didn't bother me at all...
I personally loved how you didn't start out with a lightsaber. It made obtaining the lightsaber that much more satisfying and rewarding. the levels leading up to it were badass too. I thought raiding Kejim Outpost at night was sick.
I remember back in the day playing the Multiplayer mode of this..so many good times. I miss those days.
this game is my childhood. period.
Spot on description. My experience playing this game is very similar to what you've described.
This game grew and grew into something great. Over ten years since I played it, still have fond memories. Better than the Battlefront games.
The graphics in this game are timeless in my opinion.
I use to play the heck of this game after I got my laptop for Christmas. This is one of my favorite star war games, and it's sad that they happen't use the combat style for future star wars games after Jedi academy.
I did all of em. From Dark Forces one and two, to Jedi Knight 2. Damn I was so young I forgot about Forces. The one I played the most though was Dark Forces 2. Fucking great game
There is a mod to update the graphics a little for Dark Forces 2 while still maintaining the “feel” of the original game.
This is the game of my childhood. I loved it and still love it today. Wouldn't change a single bit of the game.
When I played this game I used dismemberment codes so that enemies could be chopped up to smaller pieces. It also caused weird but fun side effect to "final bosses" who sometimes just jumped off the edges and fell down to their deaths.
YouStubid my battle with Tavion lasted for 15sec because I Darth Mauled her while she was in mid jump thanks to Saber Realistic Combat
Ya missed one of the best aspects of the game!.... the dismemberment cheat!
+Hristin Marinov is that cheat in the gamecube version, or is it only cmd line pc only?
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pc definitly , not sure about other game consoles
On my first playthrough of this game back when it came out, after every lightsaber battle I'd reload and replay the whole fight multiple times before I'd had enough. After finishing it I must've replayed the final boss fight a hundred times.
I've been playing video games since Lode Runner, and I've never done that in any other game.
My second favorite Star Wars game after KOTOR. Such good memories of playing this game.
I adored this game. I liked the previous 2 Dark Forces, Mysteries of the Sith and Jedi Academy, but this was one of my favourites.
This review made me reinstall this classic,been playing the last 2 hrs.
Top reviews as always!
Hey, this is a better post "Return of the Jedi" story than the Battlefront II 2017 campaign story.
This and Kotor 2 have to be my favorite SW games ever. first time I played this I was hooked and wasn't bothered much by the slow start. however nar shadaa wanted my snap the disc over my knee.
Found this video on the steam community page for the game. haha
Your production quality has improved a lot. I think it would be cool to see you review the Jedi Outcast series with your updated format.
Great review of my personal favorite game.
The level right before the jedi retraining is an absolute nightmare, with no force powers and lightsaber against all the stormtroopers and laser cannons in a wide open area.. .after that the Rodians with their Tenloss disruptor rifles was a piece of cake.It does take quite a long time though.
Forgot it was sitting in my Steam list. Guess I'll be playing it soon.
I found that the best tactic to use against the Reborn was Force Grip followed by Saber Throw. If it connects, it's an instant kill. It was also fun to Force Grip them and then drop them off ledges. Or do a high jump and drop them at the apex of it. For some reason, they can jump just as high as Kyle, but if you carry them up and then drop them, it damages or kills them. I also liked Force Pulling stormtroopers while in the air and then watching the whole squad go crashing back to the ground.
Dear ggmanlives. Thank-you!!!! for the spoilers warning at the beginning of the video. Because of that you have lost yourself 1 view on this video.. but earned yourself a subscriber. I appreciate shit like that
The jump in graphics between dark forces II and this fucking blew my mind in 2002, a lot happened during those five years
I miss this game so much. Takes me back to my elementary school days
The lightsaber combat in this game was incredible. I know JKA added some neat new wrinkles, but JK2 felt more balanced and ultimately feels better in the long run.
I played both the console and PC version and they pretty much funktion the same, really solid games and you know that's true when you can play it on multiple platforms and know exactly what you're doing and where you're at and you aren't too confused
great review mate, LOVED this game back in the day and you do some quality reviews.
man idk how many hours of my childhood I spent playing the multiplayer in this game. What a classic game!
do a star wars jedi knight mysteries of the sith review
I gave up at the really hard mission just after getting a lightsaber, but watching you play the later levels...I think i should just shut up and push on
one thing iv noticed in some points in this game is that a rapid fire laser some times if fast enough can kill any light saber enemy
I remember when this came out, omg... What a year that was! I played the PISS outta the multiplayer component in this game. Honestly, it's one of the most fun single and multiplayer gaming experiences I've ever had - period.
Anyone else hyped for Jedi Outcasts just announced for Switch?
Is it going to be a remaster?
@@EagleEye517 no, it is just gonna be a port
@@dearimena7466 LAME!!
Jk,but they should do a remake of both this and Jedi Academy
@@EagleEye517 I definitely agree we need a remaster or remake, but a port so I can play it on the go is something I'm happy with
@@dearimena7466 Good for you.I'm waiting for Jedi Fallen Order in november.I hope it's gonna be good.Reminds me alot of Jedi Academy and Force Unleashed due to those lightsaber fightings
This game is insanely frustrating. It’s in the genre of early 2000s games where you turn a corner and die instantly.
This was my jam! I remember using the console commands to spawn in whatever units I wanted, creating my own battles on the fly.
The biggest selling point of this game, were the saber duels.
Yes you could totally cheese fights with cheap tactics (choke+throw, lightning, crouch+forward+attack combo oneshot just to name a few), but an honest 1 v 1 duel and being able to kill even the simplest enemies while holding back with nothing but sword skill was a phenomenal feeling. Especially with the one where you jumpflip over an enemy and slash at their heads. It was harder to pull of and more satisfying.
Also yeah, for second playthrough I too did cheat in the lightsaber and powers.
Love this game, even bought it on GameCube so I could do couch multiplayer despite the awful second analog stick.
I agree with literally everything you said here. My only complaint is a tiny, nerd nitpick - Nar Shaddaa is a moon, not a planet.
Also, anyone who does get this game, try the multiplayer mode called "Jedi Master", it's a lot of fun. It starts everyone with no Force Powers or lightsaber, and spawns weapons on the map. It also places one lightsaber somewhere on the map.. Once someone picks up the lightsaber, they become the Jedi Master, and gain maximum ranks in all Force abilities, but can ONLY use the lightsaber and the Force (that is, no guns or explosives). Also, everyone else on the map instantly joins a team _against_ the Jedi Master. Only the Jedi Master can earn points. If someone kills the Jedi Master, the lightsaber jumps out of their corpse towards the person who killed them.
I bought this game when I was 13, knowing nothing about, and I really enjoyed the first levels. However, when I first got my hands on the lightsaber at 5:24... I felt like my life had changed. The game makes a complete 180° turn.
I'm doing it again... for the 10th times at least.
I don't know if it's nostalgia, or me getting old and bitter, but man those games were so good.
Great story, great combat (even if the enemies moving so erraticly are hard to shoot before you got powers), good duration.
I think every single one of us are dreaming of a JK4 with the Battlefront engine... Which probably won't ever happend.
Truly one of the best ones of the Jedi Knight series on PC! It was a damn fun with the lightsaber and a gibbing mod on LAN party!
This game, Kotor, Battlefront classic, and even the lego games made me love star wars even more. I pumped countless hours into jedi outcast. Its even better than academy.
this was one of my favorite games growing up.
one of my most favorite games during my childhood
Great and well structured review, mate... You might have specified that Kyle renounced his force powers because of what happened on Dromund Kaas in Mysteries of The Sith (which I don't think you reviewed?)...
A few years ago I rolled through all of these again. Once you get used to the graphics and slight clumsiness compared to current games these games really shine.
It's an absolutely unforgivable sin we don't get SW games like this series anymore.
I totally agree with your review. I love Jedi Knight 2. It's so fun hacking enemies with your lightsaber and using force powers to thrown people across the room. I also agree that it can be really frustrating trying to figure out where to go and alot of times you can get stumped and it can take a lot of searching for things. But once you get to Cloud City the game gets incredibly fun! You just have to get through the first half of the game. I just wish the regular weapons still had some use after you get the lightsaber. Mostly I never use them again, because the lightsaber is just so useful and realy helps with defense.
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Jan is not murdered in front of Kyle's eyes. Tavion takes her into the shuttle, and then imitates it. The act is never shown, so the player and Kyle think Jan was murdered, when it actually didn't happen
I think he intentionally "ruined" Jan's death so that her reappeance is still the surprise its supposed to be. Had he left it at, she's captured, then people who play the game after this review wouldn't be shocked that she wasn't killed cuz in the review it stated she was only captured instead. :P
Easily my favorite Star Wars game and one of my favorites of all time. I'm also surprised about how few games mimic the Lightsaber combat.
Steve Blum is also one of the game's high points. You can literally hear him everywhere as the game progresses
man i had so much fun using the force powers in this game and duels could be epic. no better game to play as a jedi
The best strategy I've found when dealing with saber enemies is to grip them then immediately use force speed to run up to them and hack them to pieces.
This was the first 3D game that really impressed with its graphics. In the late 90s the 3D always felt so stiff and ugly. This was awesome and felt like a proper Star Wars game! And I loved how it reminded of Dark Forces in the FPS.
I really love the character progression in this game. From Force-less merc to unstoppable Jedi. It's really satisfying.
My only complaint, is like you said, sometimes you don't know where you're going and a few of the puzzles are a little crazy. They toned the difficulty down a bit too much in Jedi Academy though.
I just played through recently and I was surprised how well it holds up.
The biggest problem with academy was its jar jar binks character: rosh.
Man, how I wished to kill him
One of my childhood favorites
Very memorable for me as this was one of the first couple of PC games I came home with for my first desktop build in the spring of 2004. I didn't know that about Mark Hamill and Soldier of Fortune II... ...but SoFII was the other 1st-person shooters that Spring of '04 for me I took in. Oh, and the stormtroopers running backwards - memorable. :P Good review.
they really need to remake this entire series for current gen. Ive never played through the entire Dark Forces and now its practically impossible. JK:DF II and JK:JO are two of my favorite SW games (along with the KOTOR's)
Still to date the best Star Wars game ever made in terms of combat.
Weird, did you use the Yellow Mode (for the Lightsaber ) when reviewing this game? Coz i didn't see you use the Red Mode or Blue mode at all tbh.
Also no mention of the funny cheats this game has? Like noclip and various others (i cant say at the top of my head right now coz i haven't played this game for a couple of years.) The cheats are probably one of the strong points of the game. Anyway still a good review nonetheless.
You can play this game at 4k 120fps and wide screen on PC version. It's still really beautiful
Wow, what a great game! At the time the graphics and physics were sick, and ran seamlessly on my old Pentium III 600 MHz with a RIVA TNT2 32 Mb. Good old days...
This one and Jedi Academy are my favorite Star Wars games.
I got the game for multiplayer - I didn't know anyone when it was new who cared about the single player story really.
I remember that level after you get the lightsaber being hard as balls. Whenever I replay the game, that's usually where I call it quits.
Mark Hamil said in an interview that he has NEVER been asked to reprise his role in any of the games.
This was one of the bet FPS games I ever played, was a bit slow at the start but once you got your Jedi powers it really took off.
There’s one question I’ve always wanted 2 know about this game:
The “Jedi Knight” which came out before this one was excellent & had u playing in 1st person perspective, which I loved.
Footage I’ve always seen 4 this one always show u with your saber in 3rd person (which I personally don’t care for). Does this game also give u the option 2 play entirely in 1st person view as well, I hope?
Yes, you can switch to 1st person view with lightsaber. There is a button for switching between 1st and 3rd person view. The same is true for the first Jedi Knight (Dark Forces II) and also the Jedi Academy game.
I thought you could only do that with PC mods?
@@ThatDovaDude Actually, I found the manual and it says, you can switch between the 1st and 3rd person using the "P" key.
Here is the manual (STEAM) - look for page 5: steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/6030/manuals/Jedi_Outcast_Manual.pdf?t=1560979586
Also on Steam there is a topic about this:
steamcommunity.com/app/6020/discussions/0/558753804335443688/
How do you get to the jedi arena mode? I bought this game for pc and wanted to go back to owning on jedi arena but It doesn't show on the main menu it only shows new ,load,controls, and setup please help!
That's the episode 7 !New characters,new places ,new story.
I prefer the Thrawn trilogy as ep 7, 8, 9 but yeah, I'll take this over Sequels.
This is one of the most difficult games I've ever played, AND it has one of the longest campaigns. Almost as long or equal to that of Deus Ex