And just like that we're one step closer to a Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast remake! We'll probably get that before the KOTOR Remake tbh... Let me know if you've played Dark Forces in the comments and if YOU want to buy the Dark Forces remaster, buy it here! - store.steampowered.com/app/2292260/STAR_WARS_Dark_Forces_Remaster/
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@@PKryik Let's just say their acts of defecting even against an evil like the Empire has gotten way too stale in these times... seriously, I would have preferred Battlefront 2 2017 had they stayed the TIE Fighter game's "stay loyal to the Empire no matter what" route and unflinchingly kept Iden and her Infernos as diehard loyalists who awesomely got more unhinged as time went on in a manner similar to (woefully now delisted) Spec Ops: The Line. At least Kyle Katarn and Brenn Tantor had more justification and were fresh ideas back in the day. *Not anymore.*
@@100StarWars Thank you! I didn't texture or light them though, only the modelling. Some of them can be seen on my channel. It was fun to be involved in this. The hardest part was to know about it about a year before it got public and not be allowed to talk about it.
I think the biggest let down of star wars extended media is the continuous focus on jedi and the force and trying to tell stories that have to tie into the movies. Let us play as bounty hunters tracking down criminals, or as smugglers hanging out with the scum and villainy of the galaxy. There's so much lore and potential but we only see it through the eyes of .1% of the galaxy. Kotor and the more recent jedi series are on the right track, with stories and characters from the larger universe but ultimately doing their own thing.
Much of legends wasn't about Jedi, though most featured their intervention, the "choices of one" book and it's other novel for example are about storm troopers who defect after killing a spec ops sleezeball and begin to Robin Hood corrupt imperials under the guise of Emperors spec ops... Mara Jade finds them and considering that's kind of her exact role they have confrontations and work together, but the story is about them and not her.
People like are you are seriously cancer. Why can't you just let the past be the past without fucking with it? Halo 2 has amazing graphics as it is. The idea that anybody would think it should need to be replaced is absurd. If you really can't stand the blocky graphics of the era, then download the mods that are already out there that increase the graphics to be more comparable to Jedi Outcast.
I am glad Kyle Katarn wasn't forgotten after the end of the Dark Forces series, re-appearing in the NJO and Legacy series. That said, I wish his companion/lover Jan Ors wasn't left behind, as we never knew about her again after the Yuuzhan Vong wars
@@ChosenOne-il4bm. Rogue One largely replaced the original Dark Force. Cassian Andor = early Kyle Katarn The two have a visually similar blaster. Jyn Erso = Jan Ors They were given the assignment to steal the 1st Death Star’s plans by Mon Mothma. And Cal Kestis has now become the later Jedi version of Kyle Katarn.
@@eds1942I guess when you own the rights, a property can change some names around and rip itself off, and be called something new by people who don't know any better.
@@ChosenOne-il4bmFrom what they said, it was moreso Kanan and Hera who replaced them, as well as Cassian and Jyn. All four have aspects of Kyle and Jan.
This remake is worth every penny of the $30. I'll never forget the first time I saw the Dark Forces demo playing on a computer inside Circuit City back in 1995. Stopped me in my tracks. Went on to spend hundreds of hours playing Dark Forces, making custom levels, had an enthusiast webpage on GeoCities, etc. Fast forward to this new remaster, I'm now 40 years old, but this makes me feel 12 all over again.
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There was the option to remove HUD and headbob in the original, it was F7, F8 or something around that from what I recall, still cant wait to play it even though I still own my 1995 CD-ROM Disc and the Steam DOSBOX version, it was my first game and I will always love it
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I wish more modern games were like this in leaving it all up to the player to figure out where to go and what to do. DF, DF2 and Morrowind were great in that regard, it can lead to irritation but I think it adds greatly to the immersive experience.
I forgot just how good Dark Forces is, if it wasn’t for the remaster I probably wouldn’t have ended up playing it again just due to how much better the latter games in the series are.
I never got to play it or DF2, only the MASSIVE demos in the Lucasarts Super sampler I played till I lost it, had an old Lucasarts game called "Outlaws"(really funny timing Disney called their new title similar, they are definitely different games though I do wonder if anyone worked on both projects or played homage in the upcoming game to that one... It was a rough WW shooter similar in type to DF) and a monkey island demo as well as 2 others idr too. I really hope I can get this remaster physical.
I would say having no indication where to go is and no objective pointer is plus for me. It gives more immersion and realism, as Kyle is thrown into enemy territory that he doesn't know and has to navigate by feeling (or unknowingly by using Force).
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Pretty good job by Nightdive studios. Graphically its a great job at enhancing what was already there. It was fun to play although its level design and movement certainly show the games age. I still would like a remake of all the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games at some point. But that's probably never going to happen.
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It probably is going to happen, unfortunately, even though it shouldn't. What is wrong with people that you can't let go of the past and ask for something new, but at the same time you have no respect for the past, and want to replace it with more recent shinier graphics? If you're nostalgic, then modern graphics should be an outrage, but if you're modern, then why are you stuck in the past?
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Your childhood sounds like mine, except that I was 8 or 9 for the first Dark Forces. Both Dark Forces games are actually the reason why I got into Star Wars. The original trilogy is not where my interest in Star Wars began. I was not interested in the trilogy until Dark Forces.
Amazing video my friend, I never played any of these games. The first Star Wars game I played came out after Return of the Jedi a X Wing game attacking the Death Star in the mid 80's
@@100StarWarsyour review reminds me of the first time I played Doom: which was very recently. This is my first time playing dark forces and the first level took me so long but loving the fast paced gun play.
@michaelandreipalon359 oh yea, looking forward to dark Forces 2 but I played jedi outcast and academy. Both amazing! Star Wars games should be 10/10 after that game.
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I'm a big fan of the original, and was really looking forward to playing this remaster, but $30 is too expensive. I will wait until the price comes down.
As cool as this is and how fast I clicked on the video when I saw it, I kind of wish they made it a true modern version of dark forces. I grew up playing this game and for me it’s right up there with halo CE in my heart. I think it would be amazing if they kept the same story but remade it as a modern FPS like halo (pre 343) or COD. I can only imagine what the levels would look like with todays graphics
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@@100StarWars I was super excited to download this remaster when I got home from work after initially coming across this video. The nostalgia was perfect but I still stand by my original comment about wishing it was a true remaster with modern visuals, more detail to the story and maybe even a longer story with DLC. I know all that is setting the bar pretty high for wishful thinking but one can dream 🤷🏻♂️
Tomb Raider remasters also have the the old/new look switch, wich is great! I think I need to buy it finally, my first SW game that ingited a "second wave" of my SW fanboism. Also I think a full remake of the "Catarn saga" would be great, especially if made by those who played and love thise games!
At $40 cdn, it's kind of a hard sell for me. I'm sure there are fans who wouid buy it at twice the price. Maybe if all the Jedi knight games were released as a package, $70-$80 would be worth it.
Gotta remember, unlike a lot of ports... a lot of work has gone into this to actually vastly improve thje visuals. It's not just upscaled and put on modern consoles.
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If you already own the game on Steam or GOG, there's little sense in buying this remaster, which is basically a source port plus a.i. upscaled textures and re-done cutscenes. But for those who are on consoles, or haven't bought it previously, it might be worth checking out when it goes on sale for like $5. $30 is way too overpriced. You're not buying a new game. Just a slight facelift on a 30 year old one, and one that modders basically already have done for free on the internet.
I have a Switch, a PS4 and a ps5. I know that the PS5 has the best graphics but my Switch is my favorite console so I’ll probably get it for Switch. I have played and beaten Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy but I never got around to playing Dark Forces!
A flawed game, but otherwise still worthwhile for hardcore gamers and lore afficionadoes who adore the rest of the SotE multimedia. Granted, I play it on the GOG PC port.
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Honestly they probably should have opened with DFII, I don't believe that has a source port. That's the real elephant in the room here, anyone could buy the original for a buck and plug it in to the Force Engine, while you won't get the remade art or cut scenes, you're also paying 30 dollars for those things, kind of a hard sell on only 1% of the experience. For that price it's honestly kind of a bare bones package.
It ultimately depends on how much you value the work that's gone into the artwork and upgraded visuals. People pay $20/30 for Star Wars ports... so I think this is a fair price here given how much work has gone into it comparatively!
I never played the original so I will gladly buy this if it's not a buggy hell and it sounds like it's not. No issues with outdated mechanics, I replay games from 20+ years ago from time to time, some that also keep hard crashing rarely (both gothics)
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To be honest the fact that this is more of an hd upscale and not a true remaster like the halo games got and i was hoping for is a bit disappointing am i still going to get it most likely as its the only game in the series ive never played because my computer couldn't run it I really hope the rest of the series gets remasters too especially jedi outcast
That isn't true. As mentioned in the video, all of the assets and art has been remade for this remaster. The reason why Halo feels so different is because it's a 3D game so the visual leap in terms of polygons and textures are always going to look better than 4k Sprites that are stylised!
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I heard about fan remake for dark forces. There was a first level. Outstanding physics, and if I'm not mistaken, it supported VR. (also, your vids stopped appearing in my recommendations)
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I think that if you have already bought Star Wars Dark Forces from GoG there's not much reason to get this one unless you really REALLY wan't the graphical upgrade.
If you are having problems running the game on PC in general, I have a solution that you can also save some money as well. The Force Engine can upscale the game for you so you don't have to re-buy the game again for $30. You can thank me later.
I really like this game. If you have the original game or get it for little money and then install The Force Engine (TFE) over it, you have the better game with free saving. The way the remaster is presented here, it has zero improvement on PC. At this price, it's really only interesting for console buyers.
From what I’ve seen of the remaster, we already had a fan made one for years with "the force engine" for free. One bonus level and the vault section isn’t worth the high price
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The $30 pricetag does seem a bit excessive considering how the Dosbox-based original is 100% playable on modern systems. That said, I'm afraid that if you do insist on playing the game through in some sort of upscaled fashion, then this remaster is probably the only way you can do it without significantly butchering the experience. The DarkXL mode is or at the very least used to be up till recently severely bugged, I've heard people complain that it makes beating the game impossible and seems to render every Dark Trooper encounter easy as hell (whereas they're tough as nails in the original). There was also the fan project to remake the whole game in the Jedi Academy engine, but it never progressed beyond the very first level.
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WHERE IS IT??? One old school FPS game that has never seen the light of day on consoles, and which needs a remaster. Is also one most know nothing about, except for the older gamers. The game I refer to is ''Unreal''. This is the game that started the Unreal engine, the first one to use it. Most younger gamers know nothing about this game, never heard of it. Mentioning ''Unreal'' to them, they assume you're talking about the engine that runs tons of modern day games. Nope...it was the name of the FPS game which was the beginning of the Unreal ''engine''. It's an amazing game. Unreal 1-2 needs a remaster and brought to all modern consoles!
...That's the thing. Epic Games ruthlessly murdered it and Unreal Tournament 1999 and 2004 a long while back so to selfishly promote more *bloody Fortnite!*
@@michaelandreipalon359 Don't care about Tournament, not into online crap. Second, they didn't murder it. Unreal is an AMAZING FPS game. Never understood why it never came to consoles.
It's a bit of a cash grab at $30 in my opinion for a repackaged old game, maybe $10 would be fairer. The retro MIDI music is brutal and way too loud by default. Opening the map often crashes on Xbox One and there's no menu option to exit the game. I enjoy retro gaming but think I'd avoid this all things considered.
0:06: Unfortunately not well ported for the PC. 0:10: Why the heck hasn't this been also PC rereleased? I wanna try it! 0:17: I rather recommend TIE Fighter: Collector's CD-ROM Edition instead. Maybe even TF Total Conversion for X-Wing Alliance with the Upgrade mod. - Surprisingly good game with lots of 90s era Legends fanservice, even if it's not as flashy as its spiritual successor Empire at War - Probably trash. - This is also a highly recommended title. Actually, Dark Forces has a story... you just need to read up on the manual and also get some tie-in novellas by one William C. Dietz; yes, the man responsible for Hitman 2: Silent Assassin and Contracts/Blood Money interquel novel Enemy Within, the Halo: Combat Evolved partial anthology novel The Flood and the much maligned Mass Effect: Deception. 3:49: Can add that Jedi Knight's FMVs have aged far better than the cringe of Rebel Assault II. Will also add that it has aged as well as Command and Conquer: Tiberian Dawn's up to Red Alert 2's (plus Tiberium Wars, if one is into that sequel). 7:02: Not as bad as Marathon Trilogy puzzle platforming, especially since you can't jump there. 9:12: ...Oh, yeah, environmental hazards like this are also a thing. The PDA problem should be easily remedied via a Week 1 patch or something close to that. 13:41: Good old Mission to Danuta, part of the well renowned Rebel Operation Skyhook. Yes, can agree that Rogue One is still a great film, but its stakes and nuances just easily pale in comparison with Legends' take on the Death Star plan thefts. If there's a huge flaw of this game: Kyle Katarn logically hasn't reached his memetically uberpowered Force attuned self yet, so no Homura Akemi'ng with fully upgraded Forcr Speed yet, power fantasiers. 16:36: patologTV would love this. If only the Monkey Island original duology Special Editions didn't need the necessity of fanmade Talkie Edition patches, due to the original graphics not having the voice acting without them. Just saying. And don't worry. Remasters that bring back the original feel are still around, as seen in the Command and Conquer Remastered Collection. Hmm, why does the Vault not look like they added the backstory and plot points from the manual+tie-in novellas that I mentioned earlier? Not everyone would want to get them so to read them, you know. Well, 100% Star Wars, many, *many, MANY* thanks for trying this out and giving the remaster a much hoped for positive review. Hope others like Civvie 11 may also recommend their viewers to this because of its helpfulness. Addendum: If anyone ends up liking if not loving this game, I also recommend LucasArts' Outlaws+A Handful of Missions, built from the same engine and maybe even story writing team.
Depends how much you value the title and your money haha. If you want to play it, with better visuals and controls then sure. If you'd rather wait for a sale then do that!
@@100StarWars That's a bummer. Maybe you could float the idea to Night Dive Studios about how some of your viewers have asked the question? That one thing I miss with Remakes is getting ahold of a Special Edition physical copy of a game. LoL oh well 😊
Between the inconsistant attention to visual fidelity and the complete negligence in remastering any of the sound effects or music, I'd say this was rushed to market in an unfinished state. Not worth the price tag that Disney set for this half-baked priduct at all - no matter how many pairs of rose-tinted glasses you are wearing.
*coughs in the superlativeness of the remakes for Resident Evil 1 and System Shock, plus the existence of fan efforts like Black Mesa and FreeSpace Port+Silent Threat: Reborn*
SCORE: 1/10 Loses nine stars for not having a manual save anywhere feature. This feature is extremely common with these retro FPS games, and to not have it in Star Wars is game breaking! Also the lack of a cheat menu is sad also. These were very common back in the day. But the no manual save issue is the worst. I hate gaining progress and not being able to save it. Then die and lose it all.
@@michaelandreipalon359 SCREW your ''get gud'' BS! I play to have fun, not to be challenged and redo parts over & over. So I'll just use the god cheat and have fun. While you worship your god of ''get gud''.
What do you mean what? Katarn is still being remastered after all these years while lame worthless Cassian doesn't even have his own game. If you deny that, you are a fake fan!
@@michaelandreipalon359 At the very best that would be a labor of love, not a necessity. As I feel you misjudged the previous messages. I am precisely the person who is an outright fan of legends, not something opposite.
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for 30 dollars, sorry no. everything looks good except whomever is responsible for the 2d cutscenes, that looks horrendous , should of hired an artist to redo those scenes instead of AI
@@100StarWarsthanks for making me feel even older xD. but thankfully I have this and tomb rader I-III to keep me going til the KOTOR remake :). (holding out hope)
And just like that we're one step closer to a Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast remake! We'll probably get that before the KOTOR Remake tbh... Let me know if you've played Dark Forces in the comments and if YOU want to buy the Dark Forces remaster, buy it here! - store.steampowered.com/app/2292260/STAR_WARS_Dark_Forces_Remaster/
Jedi outcast remake for canon
Ezra Replaces Kyle
Remaster instead! A remake would leave a sour taste a la Resident Evil 3 "Reimagining"!
@@carringtondale Jedi Knight 1 already has remakes, ports, and graphic packs. I'm not sure why it needs a remake.
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@@Wickedmadman366 Unofficial ones at most, unfortunately.
It's amazing the character development Kyle Katarn got. From an imperial officer to one of Luke's greatest Jedi students. What a man
Certainly a journey!
And it sure feels well justified to me compared to the cowards Iden Versio and maybe even Crosshair.
Should have been the new trilogy
@@michaelandreipalon359cowards? What
@@PKryik Let's just say their acts of defecting even against an evil like the Empire has gotten way too stale in these times... seriously, I would have preferred Battlefront 2 2017 had they stayed the TIE Fighter game's "stay loyal to the Empire no matter what" route and unflinchingly kept Iden and her Infernos as diehard loyalists who awesomely got more unhinged as time went on in a manner similar to (woefully now delisted) Spec Ops: The Line. At least Kyle Katarn and Brenn Tantor had more justification and were fresh ideas back in the day. *Not anymore.*
I did most of the ship models in the cutscenes, and it's awesome to finally see the cutscenes!
Really!? Like I said, I can't praise the cutscenes enough, they're so good! Great work!
@@100StarWars Thank you! I didn't texture or light them though, only the modelling. Some of them can be seen on my channel. It was fun to be involved in this. The hardest part was to know about it about a year before it got public and not be allowed to talk about it.
You are most truly welcome, sir/ma'am!
NDAs are one hell of a thing haha
@@100StarWarsThey sure are! :)
I think the biggest let down of star wars extended media is the continuous focus on jedi and the force and trying to tell stories that have to tie into the movies. Let us play as bounty hunters tracking down criminals, or as smugglers hanging out with the scum and villainy of the galaxy. There's so much lore and potential but we only see it through the eyes of .1% of the galaxy.
Kotor and the more recent jedi series are on the right track, with stories and characters from the larger universe but ultimately doing their own thing.
Also, more combat pilot stuff familiar to fans of folk like Keyan Farlander and Maarek Stele.
Yes, I know they're also Force users, but still.
Much of legends wasn't about Jedi, though most featured their intervention, the "choices of one" book and it's other novel for example are about storm troopers who defect after killing a spec ops sleezeball and begin to Robin Hood corrupt imperials under the guise of Emperors spec ops... Mara Jade finds them and considering that's kind of her exact role they have confrontations and work together, but the story is about them and not her.
I’d want a remake of the sequel. Animated/motion captured cutscenes, levels and combat reworked. Give it the Halo 2 Anniversary treatment.
You're suggesting a remaster, though, which is admittedly more better than a remake that could change too much.
I want a remake/remaster of Jedi Knight too. But they have to keep the live action cutscenes.
People like are you are seriously cancer. Why can't you just let the past be the past without fucking with it? Halo 2 has amazing graphics as it is. The idea that anybody would think it should need to be replaced is absurd. If you really can't stand the blocky graphics of the era, then download the mods that are already out there that increase the graphics to be more comparable to Jedi Outcast.
I am glad Kyle Katarn wasn't forgotten after the end of the Dark Forces series, re-appearing in the NJO and Legacy series. That said, I wish his companion/lover Jan Ors wasn't left behind, as we never knew about her again after the Yuuzhan Vong wars
It’s nuts it never be canon
But Ezra replaces Kyle
Hera replaces jan
And new Jedi order will be with Rey
So it’s still true from a POV
#justiceforJan
@@ChosenOne-il4bm. Rogue One largely replaced the original Dark Force.
Cassian Andor = early Kyle Katarn
The two have a visually similar blaster.
Jyn Erso = Jan Ors
They were given the assignment to steal the 1st Death Star’s plans by Mon Mothma.
And Cal Kestis has now become the later Jedi version of Kyle Katarn.
@@eds1942I guess when you own the rights, a property can change some names around and rip itself off, and be called something new by people who don't know any better.
@@ChosenOne-il4bmFrom what they said, it was moreso Kanan and Hera who replaced them, as well as Cassian and Jyn. All four have aspects of Kyle and Jan.
This remake is worth every penny of the $30. I'll never forget the first time I saw the Dark Forces demo playing on a computer inside Circuit City back in 1995. Stopped me in my tracks. Went on to spend hundreds of hours playing Dark Forces, making custom levels, had an enthusiast webpage on GeoCities, etc. Fast forward to this new remaster, I'm now 40 years old, but this makes me feel 12 all over again.
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There was the option to remove HUD and headbob in the original, it was F7, F8 or something around that from what I recall, still cant wait to play it even though I still own my 1995 CD-ROM Disc and the Steam DOSBOX version, it was my first game and I will always love it
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Neat! Both Dark Forces and Tomb Raider classics get a remaster.
Should I get them both..
"Dew it!"
DEWWWWW IT
Hope the Battlefront Classic Collection is a three-pointer.
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I wish more modern games were like this in leaving it all up to the player to figure out where to go and what to do. DF, DF2 and Morrowind were great in that regard, it can lead to irritation but I think it adds greatly to the immersive experience.
I forgot just how good Dark Forces is, if it wasn’t for the remaster I probably wouldn’t have ended up playing it again just due to how much better the latter games in the series are.
I hope you get a chance to play the Remaster! It's great :)
I never got to play it or DF2, only the MASSIVE demos in the Lucasarts Super sampler I played till I lost it, had an old Lucasarts game called "Outlaws"(really funny timing Disney called their new title similar, they are definitely different games though I do wonder if anyone worked on both projects or played homage in the upcoming game to that one... It was a rough WW shooter similar in type to DF) and a monkey island demo as well as 2 others idr too.
I really hope I can get this remaster physical.
Dark Forces 1 has always been my favorite of the bunch, but they're all amazing.
I would say having no indication where to go is and no objective pointer is plus for me.
It gives more immersion and realism, as Kyle is thrown into enemy territory that he doesn't know and has to navigate by feeling (or unknowingly by using Force).
True that.
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That elevator puzzle had me so stumped because the internet did not exist.😊
For real the Elevator puzzle is crazy lol
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The one in the sewer level, right?
Pretty good job by Nightdive studios. Graphically its a great job at enhancing what was already there. It was fun to play although its level design and movement certainly show the games age. I still would like a remake of all the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games at some point. But that's probably never going to happen.
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It probably is going to happen, unfortunately, even though it shouldn't. What is wrong with people that you can't let go of the past and ask for something new, but at the same time you have no respect for the past, and want to replace it with more recent shinier graphics? If you're nostalgic, then modern graphics should be an outrage, but if you're modern, then why are you stuck in the past?
I'm gonna play this tomorrow and I cant WAIT. Glad to see it's getting so many glowing reviews!!
Hell yeah!
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Still one of the best Star Wars games out there
Your childhood sounds like mine, except that I was 8 or 9 for the first Dark Forces. Both Dark Forces games are actually the reason why I got into Star Wars. The original trilogy is not where my interest in Star Wars began. I was not interested in the trilogy until Dark Forces.
Amazing video my friend, I never played any of these games. The first Star Wars game I played came out after Return of the Jedi a X Wing game attacking the Death Star in the mid 80's
Just finished downloading. Can't wait!
I hope you enjoy!!
@@100StarWarsyour review reminds me of the first time I played Doom: which was very recently. This is my first time playing dark forces and the first level took me so long but loving the fast paced gun play.
Welcome to the boonies, kid. Hope you'll also continue with the sequels that follow progressively.
@michaelandreipalon359 oh yea, looking forward to dark Forces 2 but I played jedi outcast and academy. Both amazing! Star Wars games should be 10/10 after that game.
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I'm a big fan of the original, and was really looking forward to playing this remaster, but $30 is too expensive. I will wait until the price comes down.
That's fair!
As cool as this is and how fast I clicked on the video when I saw it, I kind of wish they made it a true modern version of dark forces. I grew up playing this game and for me it’s right up there with halo CE in my heart. I think it would be amazing if they kept the same story but remade it as a modern FPS like halo (pre 343) or COD. I can only imagine what the levels would look like with todays graphics
Maybe if this game succeeds it's a tester for more? Food for thought...
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@@100StarWars I was super excited to download this remaster when I got home from work after initially coming across this video. The nostalgia was perfect but I still stand by my original comment about wishing it was a true remaster with modern visuals, more detail to the story and maybe even a longer story with DLC. I know all that is setting the bar pretty high for wishful thinking but one can dream 🤷🏻♂️
Remaster was FANTASTIC.
Tomb Raider remasters also have the the old/new look switch, wich is great!
I think I need to buy it finally, my first SW game that ingited a "second wave" of my SW fanboism.
Also I think a full remake of the "Catarn saga" would be great, especially if made by those who played and love thise games!
At $40 cdn, it's kind of a hard sell for me. I'm sure there are fans who wouid buy it at twice the price. Maybe if all the Jedi knight games were released as a package, $70-$80 would be worth it.
Gotta remember, unlike a lot of ports... a lot of work has gone into this to actually vastly improve thje visuals. It's not just upscaled and put on modern consoles.
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£25 does seem a lot for one game remastered when Tomb Raider 1-3 remaster just came out for the same price
A fair point. I'd argue Aspyr probably under charged for that package though.
Brilliant review thank you. This was the first game I ever purchased (on any platform), looking forward to playing the remaster. Subscribed 🙏
Hope you enjoy it!
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I remember playing the demo on the pc. It came out with the demo to full throttle.
If you already own the game on Steam or GOG, there's little sense in buying this remaster, which is basically a source port plus a.i. upscaled textures and re-done cutscenes. But for those who are on consoles, or haven't bought it previously, it might be worth checking out when it goes on sale for like $5. $30 is way too overpriced. You're not buying a new game. Just a slight facelift on a 30 year old one, and one that modders basically already have done for free on the internet.
I have a Switch, a PS4 and a ps5. I know that the PS5 has the best graphics but my Switch is my favorite console so I’ll probably get it for Switch. I have played and beaten Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy but I never got around to playing Dark Forces!
Never played it but I’m curious should I? My first starwars game was shadows of the empire on the n64
A flawed game, but otherwise still worthwhile for hardcore gamers and lore afficionadoes who adore the rest of the SotE multimedia.
Granted, I play it on the GOG PC port.
Absolutely! It's a classic!
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Honestly would be cool if Nightdive would, over time, add new levels of their own to the vault.
Also, stuff from the manuals and the tie-in novellas.
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@@Ihatevideogames334 Cool, nobody asked for your irrelevant opinion.
I used to play this on my mom’s work computer after school. I can’t wait to play it again!
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Honestly they probably should have opened with DFII, I don't believe that has a source port.
That's the real elephant in the room here, anyone could buy the original for a buck and plug it in to the Force Engine, while you won't get the remade art or cut scenes, you're also paying 30 dollars for those things, kind of a hard sell on only 1% of the experience.
For that price it's honestly kind of a bare bones package.
It ultimately depends on how much you value the work that's gone into the artwork and upgraded visuals. People pay $20/30 for Star Wars ports... so I think this is a fair price here given how much work has gone into it comparatively!
I never played the original so I will gladly buy this if it's not a buggy hell and it sounds like it's not.
No issues with outdated mechanics, I replay games from 20+ years ago from time to time, some that also keep hard crashing rarely (both gothics)
tried playing the original last year but became too tedious with finding certain things, waited for remaster and its been much better visually
I WISH THEY'D MAKE A DARK FORCES 2: JEDI KNIGHT REMASTER/REMAKE. THAT'D BE AMAZING!
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$30 is a steep asking price.
It is, but unlike a port from say Aspyr... this is a remaster with a lot of work gone into to it to redo much of the game's artwork.
@@100StarWars how much would you blame the Disney Star wars attachment to the price being that high?
What i really want to know is if this remaster is better than the fanmade force engine overhaul
Well, unlike the Force Engine which just upscale things, all the assets and textures etc are brand new in the Remaster.
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To be honest the fact that this is more of an hd upscale and not a true remaster like the halo games got and i was hoping for is a bit disappointing am i still going to get it most likely as its the only game in the series ive never played because my computer couldn't run it
I really hope the rest of the series gets remasters too especially jedi outcast
That isn't true. As mentioned in the video, all of the assets and art has been remade for this remaster. The reason why Halo feels so different is because it's a 3D game so the visual leap in terms of polygons and textures are always going to look better than 4k Sprites that are stylised!
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I heard about fan remake for dark forces. There was a first level. Outstanding physics, and if I'm not mistaken, it supported VR. (also, your vids stopped appearing in my recommendations)
I haven't really been uploading that's probably why!
trust in the force! (btw, Schreier claims kotor remake is alive once again)@@100StarWars
saw the vid :) I knew you wouldn't miss this!
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I think that if you have already bought Star Wars Dark Forces from GoG there's not much reason to get this one unless you really REALLY wan't the graphical upgrade.
Expanded Universe >> Disney and Filoni Jabroni Verse
i never played the original game, i might buy the remaster
It's worth it!
If you are having problems running the game on PC in general, I have a solution that you can also save some money as well. The Force Engine can upscale the game for you so you don't have to re-buy the game again for $30. You can thank me later.
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@@100StarWars The Force Engine is an alternative as a download to upscale the game’s resolution to HD.
I really like this game. If you have the original game or get it for little money and then install The Force Engine (TFE) over it, you have the better game with free saving. The way the remaster is presented here, it has zero improvement on PC. At this price, it's really only interesting for console buyers.
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One of the best. The likes of Outlaws exist, for one example.
From what I’ve seen of the remaster, we already had a fan made one for years with "the force engine" for free. One bonus level and the vault section isn’t worth the high price
The force engine is upscaled. The Remaster is brand new assets.
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The $30 pricetag does seem a bit excessive considering how the Dosbox-based original is 100% playable on modern systems. That said, I'm afraid that if you do insist on playing the game through in some sort of upscaled fashion, then this remaster is probably the only way you can do it without significantly butchering the experience. The DarkXL mode is or at the very least used to be up till recently severely bugged, I've heard people complain that it makes beating the game impossible and seems to render every Dark Trooper encounter easy as hell (whereas they're tough as nails in the original). There was also the fan project to remake the whole game in the Jedi Academy engine, but it never progressed beyond the very first level.
@@100StarWars Force Engine is vanilla assets rendered in higher resolutions. Remaster is mostly a.i. upscaled with redone cutscenes.
They need to remaster The Phantom Menace from ps1
"Modern 4k designs", shows a sprite that's 128x48 instead of 64x24
I have been waiting for a Dark Forces II remaster for.. oh, before you were born
No, no I was born when DF2 came out.
@@100StarWars ... it was a Ben Kenobi reference
Thank you for the review video 😙😙😙❤️❤️❤️
Saber Interactive is on sale. What will you say about that?
good question
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Yeah the hard crashing is killing me…. On Xbox Series X, I’ve beaten the first nine levels and I feel like I’ve hard crashed around 10 times already.
Oof, same issue on Xbox with the PDA?
WHERE IS IT???
One old school FPS game that has never seen the light of day on consoles, and which needs a remaster. Is also one most know nothing about, except for the older gamers. The game I refer to is ''Unreal''. This is the game that started the Unreal engine, the first one to use it. Most younger gamers know nothing about this game, never heard of it. Mentioning ''Unreal'' to them, they assume you're talking about the engine that runs tons of modern day games. Nope...it was the name of the FPS game which was the beginning of the Unreal ''engine''. It's an amazing game. Unreal 1-2 needs a remaster and brought to all modern consoles!
...That's the thing. Epic Games ruthlessly murdered it and Unreal Tournament 1999 and 2004 a long while back so to selfishly promote more *bloody Fortnite!*
@@michaelandreipalon359 Don't care about Tournament, not into online crap. Second, they didn't murder it. Unreal is an AMAZING FPS game. Never understood why it never came to consoles.
@@mattfayne9691 Tell that to it being suddenly delisted on Steam/GOG, you seemingly uninformed fool.
Hey KOTOR is still alive!!
It's a bit of a cash grab at $30 in my opinion for a repackaged old game, maybe $10 would be fairer. The retro MIDI music is brutal and way too loud by default. Opening the map often crashes on Xbox One and there's no menu option to exit the game. I enjoy retro gaming but think I'd avoid this all things considered.
Have you checked to see if the game codes work?
game codes?
There is cheat codes on the original, will they work on this version?
So happy aspyr didn’t touch this game
They royally f’ed up with the other “remasters”
0:06: Unfortunately not well ported for the PC.
0:10: Why the heck hasn't this been also PC rereleased? I wanna try it!
0:17: I rather recommend TIE Fighter: Collector's CD-ROM Edition instead. Maybe even TF Total Conversion for X-Wing Alliance with the Upgrade mod.
- Surprisingly good game with lots of 90s era Legends fanservice, even if it's not as flashy as its spiritual successor Empire at War
- Probably trash.
- This is also a highly recommended title.
Actually, Dark Forces has a story... you just need to read up on the manual and also get some tie-in novellas by one William C. Dietz; yes, the man responsible for Hitman 2: Silent Assassin and Contracts/Blood Money interquel novel Enemy Within, the Halo: Combat Evolved partial anthology novel The Flood and the much maligned Mass Effect: Deception.
3:49: Can add that Jedi Knight's FMVs have aged far better than the cringe of Rebel Assault II. Will also add that it has aged as well as Command and Conquer: Tiberian Dawn's up to Red Alert 2's (plus Tiberium Wars, if one is into that sequel).
7:02: Not as bad as Marathon Trilogy puzzle platforming, especially since you can't jump there.
9:12: ...Oh, yeah, environmental hazards like this are also a thing.
The PDA problem should be easily remedied via a Week 1 patch or something close to that.
13:41: Good old Mission to Danuta, part of the well renowned Rebel Operation Skyhook. Yes, can agree that Rogue One is still a great film, but its stakes and nuances just easily pale in comparison with Legends' take on the Death Star plan thefts.
If there's a huge flaw of this game: Kyle Katarn logically hasn't reached his memetically uberpowered Force attuned self yet, so no Homura Akemi'ng with fully upgraded Forcr Speed yet, power fantasiers.
16:36: patologTV would love this.
If only the Monkey Island original duology Special Editions didn't need the necessity of fanmade Talkie Edition patches, due to the original graphics not having the voice acting without them. Just saying.
And don't worry. Remasters that bring back the original feel are still around, as seen in the Command and Conquer Remastered Collection.
Hmm, why does the Vault not look like they added the backstory and plot points from the manual+tie-in novellas that I mentioned earlier? Not everyone would want to get them so to read them, you know.
Well, 100% Star Wars, many, *many, MANY* thanks for trying this out and giving the remaster a much hoped for positive review. Hope others like Civvie 11 may also recommend their viewers to this because of its helpfulness.
Addendum: If anyone ends up liking if not loving this game, I also recommend LucasArts' Outlaws+A Handful of Missions, built from the same engine and maybe even story writing team.
Owned and played the heck out of 95 collectors CD rom, but I hear Dosbox messes up the internal timings of events and Imuse functions.
@@docsavage4921 Why not use the GOG port?
Is it worth buying if i have the original?
Depends how much you value the title and your money haha. If you want to play it, with better visuals and controls then sure. If you'd rather wait for a sale then do that!
They wouldn't happen to be doing a Special Edition physical release of the game would they?
As of right now I don't think so.
@@100StarWars That's a bummer. Maybe you could float the idea to Night Dive Studios about how some of your viewers have asked the question? That one thing I miss with Remakes is getting ahold of a Special Edition physical copy of a game. LoL oh well 😊
Between the inconsistant attention to visual fidelity and the complete negligence in remastering any of the sound effects or music, I'd say this was rushed to market in an unfinished state. Not worth the price tag that Disney set for this half-baked priduct at all - no matter how many pairs of rose-tinted glasses you are wearing.
Shame you can't enjoy it.
@@100StarWars Oh, I could enjoy it still - if it was only $10 I'd overlook the sloppy workmanship.
It's 10% off now I believe. So there's that haha
Remasters>Remakes
It really depends...
Oh yea.... (Modern Warfare 2)
*coughs in the superlativeness of the remakes for Resident Evil 1 and System Shock, plus the existence of fan efforts like Black Mesa and FreeSpace Port+Silent Threat: Reborn*
@@MentalMachineWe talking the original or the reboot?
@@michaelandreipalon359 original mw2 is better
Give it a remake
SCORE: 1/10
Loses nine stars for not having a manual save anywhere feature. This feature is extremely common with these retro FPS games, and to not have it in Star Wars is game breaking! Also the lack of a cheat menu is sad also. These were very common back in the day. But the no manual save issue is the worst. I hate gaining progress and not being able to save it. Then die and lose it all.
Then git gud! Even other Star Wars games like TIE Fighter had no checkpoint systems, and they never did drag me down all too badly!
@@michaelandreipalon359 SCREW your ''get gud'' BS! I play to have fun, not to be challenged and redo parts over & over. So I'll just use the god cheat and have fun. While you worship your god of ''get gud''.
I am thinking of buying this game. Is it worth the grab?
Really depends. Do you feel the price for a remastered 90s shooter is worth it to you?
I mean it looks interesting. I did play and finish Prodeus so why not :)
Man I would play the shit out of a Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace if it had a remake
It's playable on ps5 at least haha
@@100StarWars You can play it on PC as well. I just finished a playthrough yesterday.
@@IamtheHolyMan I don't think it's on Steam/GOG, far as I know.
@@michaelandreipalon359 you want to get the iso file from myabandonware first
@@michaelandreipalon359 my abandon ware
I understand you like the game and all but what about the quality of life changes
Did I not speak about them?
Well.
I still have the original one.
there is 0 reason to buy this with the Force Engine mod in existence
Depends how much you value the remastered art.
This yet again proves that disney sucks.
What
What do you mean what? Katarn is still being remastered after all these years while lame worthless Cassian doesn't even have his own game. If you deny that, you are a fake fan!
@@rudolphantler6309 ...I really should try to expose you to the nuances of Legends and the stuff that involved Operation Skyhook.
@@michaelandreipalon359 At the very best that would be a labor of love, not a necessity. As I feel you misjudged the previous messages. I am precisely the person who is an outright fan of legends, not something opposite.
Will this be ported to switch
This is available on Switch yes!
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Broooo I still have the ps1 dark forces game
I still have mine on PC too!
Mine on PC as well, so now I'll plan on getting this update.
I hope they remaster Dark Forces 2 and the whole Jedi Knights series.
Dark forces 2
Why? Do you just hate those games that you want to replace them so badly?
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i have dizziness on xbox with this game…
How comes?
I refunded the game
For $45au yeah nah.
for 30 dollars, sorry no. everything looks good except whomever is responsible for the 2d cutscenes, that looks horrendous , should of hired an artist to redo those scenes instead of AI
Not for $30
for $25? :3
1995 I was 5... ewwwww I don't like it >.< can we stop time plz xD
I wasn't born :P
@@100StarWarsthanks for making me feel even older xD. but thankfully I have this and tomb rader I-III to keep me going til the KOTOR remake :). (holding out hope)
Aren't we all haha
@@100StarWarshaha truer words have not been spoken my friend
Ehh, I'm proud of being old.
It's nice that it got a better look. But the core game is garbage.
the amount of money they charging for this is a joke.
we don't care about your childhood!!!
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