The Making of Shadows of the Empire

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  • Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
  • A deep dive into the creation of a Star Wars multimedia project that takes place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. We look into the story, comics, toys, soundtrack, and even ideas for a Boba Fett video game.
    Timestamps:
    0:00:00 A Movie Without a Movie
    0:02:01 The Extended Universe
    0:06:31 The Book
    0:10:42 Art and Design
    0:20:21 The Video Game
    0:40:13 The Soundtrack
    0:44:26 The Comics
    0:46:27 The Toys
    0:48:49 The Story
    1:18:57 End
    Special thanks to Jon Knoles for a special interview surrounding this subject.
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  • @joshuaizzo2297
    @joshuaizzo2297 3 роки тому +162

    This is INCREDIBLE. I was the studio assistant for Greg and Tim Hildebrandt during Shadows and have VERY fond memories of this program. Thank you so much for this!!

  • @josephfuller9539
    @josephfuller9539 2 роки тому +84

    You are a legend for making this sir. Shadows of the Empire was the first audiobook I ever bought as a kid in the 90s. Listened to those cassette tapes every night while falling asleep(still have them in the original cases in fact). To this day I still listen to it at least a couple of nights a month on my phone. Needless to say my nonstarwars wife hates me.

    • @antoniomoreira7927
      @antoniomoreira7927 Рік тому +11

      Do you also have a Star Wars wife?

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 Рік тому

      Joseph si diesvyounwife thrstenntondvorce you over star wars that would be dum thingntondivorce over

  • @levi.s722
    @levi.s722 3 роки тому +13

    That game was my childhood. fighting IG88 and Boba, the flying, everything ... it was so awesome. Still gives me instant chills hearing the music. This is how star wars should be.

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 3 роки тому +162

    Loved the choice of being Rendar. The 1st opening scene where he flies to Hoth with Leebo really gave me the feeling of being an unknown pirate wrking for the rebels. Its an awesome game and story

  • @Undone007
    @Undone007 3 роки тому +511

    This is really good, I sort of can't believe you haven't blown up more covering so much Star Wars in depth with a good sense of humor and a passionate fan's perspective.

    • @richalexander1138
      @richalexander1138 3 роки тому +10

      Yea dude I love the breakdowns from concept to production, would love to see something for Dark Empire or Thrawn Trilogy. Fuck even the Clone Wars covering the tartakovsky versions to Filoni.

    • @krobi94
      @krobi94 3 роки тому +10

      Well, he only posts like twice a year, so..

    • @Grogeous_Maximus
      @Grogeous_Maximus 3 роки тому +3

      and bird person perspective

    • @neonkenomi320
      @neonkenomi320 3 роки тому +2

      Try getting this around to the big Star Wars community channels like Star Wars Explained and such.

    • @10011110011
      @10011110011 3 роки тому +3

      @@neonkenomi320 main star wars community doesnt care about in depth analysis. They want short flashy entertainment.
      Basically what TRoS or the mandalorian were. I dont even know why TRoS was not liked that much, by the same people.

  • @TheMonkeygoneape
    @TheMonkeygoneape 3 роки тому +169

    my head canon for shadows of the empire, the game version of the story is just the version of the story Dash Rendar tells at the cantina trying to pick up girls "I'm a war hero after all, I saved Luke Skywalker and am super important"

    • @loganriling4888
      @loganriling4888 3 роки тому +16

      Lol that makes sense tho

    • @gbonkers666
      @gbonkers666 3 роки тому +19

      Dash Rander: Discount Han Solo

    • @LivinginPrinceGeorge
      @LivinginPrinceGeorge 3 роки тому +18

      @@gbonkers666
      Fans: "We want Han Solo"
      Moms: "We have Han Solo at home"
      Han Solo at home: Dash Rendar

    • @HashKoffee
      @HashKoffee 3 роки тому +1

      By the Force I thought the exact same thing!

    • @Schregger
      @Schregger 3 роки тому +2

      That is honestly how I saw it too. Makes me sort of wish for more multimedia things to try that angle.

  • @DicklessHipster
    @DicklessHipster 3 роки тому +200

    Dash is my favorite Star Wars character. Kinda hurts to see the creators almost bash him and the Shadows of The Empire game. That game is a classic and I loved it.

    • @supernintendro
      @supernintendro 3 роки тому +48

      He doesn't really bash the game, he just laments not getting an extra year of development, like Rareware did with Goldeneye! Man, imagine SOTE with another year of development... could have been a true classic, like rogue squadron or KOTOR. Still a classic, in my book!

    • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
      @anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 роки тому +13

      @Robd1 replies THAT'S what I'm thinking. At this point, Dash would be in his late 30s; so, his story is still fresh. I'd be fascinated to know what he's been up to, since "faking" his own death. Get an actor who can voice (for the Animated content) and portray (for the Live Action content) this interesting guy...preferably with wavy-curly red hair (gingers need love and work, too). Honestly, as great as The Mandalorian is, perhaps it's also a great vehicle -- along with the rest of the existent and continuing Filoni-verse -- to, on occasion, introduce canon and EU characters and storylines from other sources (novels, stories, comics, animation, video games). To follow a rogue Mandalorian bounty hunter, who travels all over the galaxy, lends credibility to the concept of him bumping in to all manner of denizens within that scope. Boba Fett, another former bounty hunter, post-ROTJ, will be a part of that galaxy, too. Imagine if Prince XIzor is, in some way, still running his Black Sun operation, and is secretly partially-aiding Moff Gideon's efforts to reintroduce The Empire?!

    • @dimitreze
      @dimitreze 3 роки тому +7

      favorite? he is a generic tough guy
      did you at least watch any of the original movies?

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 3 роки тому +11

      He looks coolest in the comics.. love how they describe him as the mercanary Han thrived to be. Han had a heart.. Dash did not.

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 3 роки тому +5

      @@anthonyyoutubefan7567 he is established in the old EU as being around the same age as Solo

  • @countmarkula1993
    @countmarkula1993 3 роки тому +28

    "Hello, what have we here?" - Lando discovering this gem of a video

  • @Felix-ru7qj
    @Felix-ru7qj 3 роки тому +367

    That interview with Jon Knoles was really cool.

    • @iplaydodgeball
      @iplaydodgeball 3 роки тому +11

      He's a pretty cool guy. I asked him a couple questions via Instagram and he actually showed me the page in his notebook where he came up with the SotE name

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion 3 роки тому +5

      He co-wrote Rogue One script, this is what the franchise needs right now, more passionate creatives like him. The Lucasfilm of today is a pale imitation of what it used to be.

    • @NilsnLewinski
      @NilsnLewinski 3 роки тому +12

      @@RaikenXion that wasn't him, you are talking about John KNOLL

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion 3 роки тому

      @@NilsnLewinski oh yeh it is

    • @lunarian9877
      @lunarian9877 3 роки тому

      @@NilsnLewinski John Lol

  • @Magneme
    @Magneme 3 роки тому +379

    Christ, you're telling me YOU actually made this behemoth? I thought you had just reuploaded a preexisting documentary...

    • @johnthaking4854
      @johnthaking4854 Рік тому +2

      Lol

    • @notsogreatsword1607
      @notsogreatsword1607 Рік тому +4

      I thought so too! Not that he's incapable but its a lot of time for what could be not exactly a huge payoff. I appreciate the drive and vision to make this happen. Really cool.

    • @joejoeman3645
      @joejoeman3645 Рік тому +2

      Bros a legend

    • @bigbitehood1353
      @bigbitehood1353 Рік тому +3

      * laughs in Nick930 *

  • @Pantheragem
    @Pantheragem 3 роки тому +98

    This was an awesome time to be a Star Wars fan. We knew the prequels were coming. Also, we could identify our own by seeing anyone else brave enough to be wearing a Star Wars shirt (and they were hard to find). People don't really know what that's like now. Even admitting you were a Star Wars fan meant opening yourself up to ridicule. It's really weird how much I miss that.

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 3 роки тому +5

      Here nobody really knew it..

    • @schaddenkorp6977
      @schaddenkorp6977 2 роки тому +10

      I remember getting teased for reading the Essential Guide Books (the original ones) in school. I had an Empire Strikes Back T-shirt. I loved TIE-Fighter for the PC, still think it’s the best SW game to have been made. You’re 100% correct this was the best time to have been a SW fan. God do you remember when Waru was the most god awful thing ever to have been made for the franchise? I miss Waru. I’d gladly take back Waru to get rid of the ‘canon’ setting. He’s the devil I know at least.

    • @Pantheragem
      @Pantheragem 2 роки тому +4

      Hmm. I don't remember Waru, but I wasn't well-versed in the expanded universe stuff at the time. Regardless, I'd take the worst to come from "Star Wars" under Lucas, to what Star Wars has become.

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 2 роки тому +12

      Don't worry, admitting to be a SW fan nowadays is bound to get you ridiculed just as much, though probably for different reasons.

    • @Abrakadabro666
      @Abrakadabro666 Рік тому +1

      I miss it too

  • @rogerstephenroth8073
    @rogerstephenroth8073 3 роки тому +56

    Shadows of the Empire had one of the best spinoff stories in a video game. There is tons of ideas from the books and video games that Disney could develop to expand the EU that, it is really great to see what would happen? It was a really good game and very interesting to see a side story in between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi timeline.

    • @vernusred4757
      @vernusred4757 2 роки тому +2

      Good news marvel comic's make new big crossover a little bit like they did in comics in timeline between A new Hope and The Empire strikes back and the new big crossover is called War Of The Bounty Hunters. I'm very interested to see what they going to do with that story Arc.

    • @rogerstephenroth8073
      @rogerstephenroth8073 2 роки тому +2

      @@vernusred4757 This Nintendo 64 game is really one of the best Star Wars EU games in the history of Star Wars video games. Because you get to see a side story in between the timeline of Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

    • @rogerstephenroth8073
      @rogerstephenroth8073 2 роки тому +1

      @@vernusred4757 There is tons of ideas Disney can work with from the books and EU material to expand the Star Wars Universe. Well we will see what happens as they developed new projects. I think they can do a lot to develop something amazing in the future, perhaps a more well developed 4th trilogy which takes place in the future with better directors and story tellers.

  • @Jermster_91
    @Jermster_91 3 роки тому +176

    Was anyone else as terrified of the sewer monsters in Shadows of the Empire as I was as a kid?
    I would give the controller to my dad and he would play past those parts and would then give me the controller back.

    • @brianpeppers8236
      @brianpeppers8236 3 роки тому +11

      Same that sewer level was fucking horrifying

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage 3 роки тому +9

      hah. not me, but the sewer monsters in Dark Forces scared the crap out of my brother...

    • @crossarmkid42
      @crossarmkid42 3 роки тому +13

      Same! IG-88 and the Gladiator droid always scared me too.

    • @PastaLuke
      @PastaLuke 3 роки тому +10

      Holy crap! I'm sure to the devs it seemed harmless, but the limitations of the N64 made the murky water so terrifying. I thought about it every time I swam in a lake!

    • @xaagripha7326
      @xaagripha7326 3 роки тому +8

      That and ig 88 where both to dam much

  • @tarsischwald
    @tarsischwald 3 роки тому +47

    Shadows of the Empire was a great book and game. I have a Dash Rendar's action figure.

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 3 роки тому +5

      If he shows up on the Mandalorian I'm going to laugh my ass off.

  • @steelie2010
    @steelie2010 Рік тому +33

    This is an absolute masterpiece,
    I love when explaining the story you went from documentary esque narration to making jokes and memes , genius

  • @sir_wesley86
    @sir_wesley86 3 роки тому +71

    I'll never forget taking forever killing the ATST boss by shooting his feet because I didn't know you could look up yet. LOVED this game!

    • @1ochotnik
      @1ochotnik 3 роки тому +6

      Same. I was stunned when I tried the game years later and discovered that with a single button, one can defeat AT-ST under 1 minute, instead of 10 :D

    • @nawfsidereviews6029
      @nawfsidereviews6029 2 роки тому

      😆😆😆

    • @scorpionwins6378
      @scorpionwins6378 2 роки тому +2

      I found it best to climb up on the catwalk and shoot at it with seeker missiles.

  • @Raycloud
    @Raycloud 3 роки тому +121

    Looking back, Shadows of the Empire was the peak of Star Wars.

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 3 роки тому +14

      Check out Dark Forces 2 if you get a chance. Definitely up there with the best of star wars.

    • @Raycloud
      @Raycloud 3 роки тому +3

      @@Rschr101 I remember when Dark Forces came out as a kid. I REALLY wanted to play it but never did. Just saw it on a friend's PC, briefly, a time or two. Same with Jedi Knight.

    • @roguedexx938
      @roguedexx938 3 роки тому +3

      So much more could have been made besides the Sequel

    • @supernintendro
      @supernintendro 3 роки тому +9

      KOTOR 1-2 and The Force Unleashed were up there with SOTE. Same with the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series.

    • @Raycloud
      @Raycloud 3 роки тому +7

      @@supernintendro KOTOR maybe...Force Unleashed? No.

  • @goldthwaithigginsondorr2005
    @goldthwaithigginsondorr2005 3 роки тому +342

    Watching this superb video kind of breaks my heart, remembering when Star wars was made by people who knew their stuff and loved it.

    • @nicholasdickens2801
      @nicholasdickens2801 3 роки тому +9

      Indeed.

    • @Captain.Fantastic
      @Captain.Fantastic 3 роки тому +39

      With you all the way. I'm amazed at how reckless Disney botched their opportunity to continue the Star Wars saga with nonsensical plot, terrible writing and this weird idea of mirroring the originals in a bad way. This is possibly the most valuable franchise in the world, and they handed it over to incompetent uninspired people that think Star Wars is about blowing up Death Stars.
      I hated the prequels because of JarJar, stupid things like Anakin building C3PO and fucking Midichlorians, but at least the overall plot made sense and they told an original story. I never expected it could get even worse after that.
      Rogue One gives me a glimmer of hope that we might see some good Star Wars movie's yet, but overall, my interest in anything Star Wars that is not in scope of the original Episodes is practically dead.

    • @Sm1thWessonAndMe
      @Sm1thWessonAndMe 3 роки тому +1

      Wow you are so right!

    • @Pantheragem
      @Pantheragem 3 роки тому +7

      I was 21 when this was happening. It really was a exciting time. I'd give near anything to go back to that time.

    • @reepacheirpfirewalker8629
      @reepacheirpfirewalker8629 3 роки тому

      GL sure crafted such a wonderful epic. Even though the people can screw things around there are still gems out there.

  • @familyguyblows
    @familyguyblows 2 роки тому +42

    Most things you covered my friend is what we are missing from Star Wars currently (besides the side projects they are doing). It’s not just nostalgia, it’s love, creativity, and paying tribute to a franchise so many love. The way they treated the characters and the story was amazing in the EU.

    • @blasterofmuppets4754
      @blasterofmuppets4754 Рік тому +2

      There was also new stuff that was never seen before. Most Star Wars stuff these days is just endless repetition of older stuff with no creativity whatsoever.

  • @logicaldude3611
    @logicaldude3611 3 роки тому +1

    The best thing about the internet is people making documentaries like this. This is fantastic.

  • @Bonnie_Dimples
    @Bonnie_Dimples 3 роки тому +59

    I was expecting a kinda rambley retrospective mostly focusing on the game, but then I got and in depth documentary about the whole dang thang with an interview with the guy who designed it seated in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon! This was awesome, Saint Milly! I honestly think this is your most impressive video to date!

  • @MG-bw9hs
    @MG-bw9hs 3 роки тому +163

    Oh look! Its the most underrated channel on youtube!

    • @eng3d
      @eng3d 3 роки тому +1

      Not everybody has the time to watch an hour long video. But, other that i agree

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage 3 роки тому

      what about me?

    • @locke103
      @locke103 3 роки тому

      clearly a better channel than mine, no question. though personally, i dont go out of my way to draw any attention.

    • @Bollibompa
      @Bollibompa 3 роки тому

      @@eng3d
      Lol, many documentary-style channels with the same video lengths have millions of subscribers.

  • @StevenRayMorris
    @StevenRayMorris 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this. At some point my gf caught me crying because truly this was MY Star Wars, more than the originals, prequels, or heck even the Special Editions that came out around the same time. I have such fond memories playing the game, reading the book, playing with the toys... Even though I was a pretty lonely kid growing up, this doc made me realize how special this project was to me and I'm so grateful.

  • @BlitzedNostradamus
    @BlitzedNostradamus 3 роки тому +6

    You wanna know how I know this video is amazing? I showed it to my mom, who loves Star Wars but knows next to nothing of the expanded lore or anything about videogames, and she loved every second of this presentation. Excellent work, man.

  • @Enastra
    @Enastra 3 роки тому +49

    I would love to see something similar to this video style for the jedi knight game series. Seeing all the history behind these old games that were a huge part of a lot of our gaming experiences is extremely cool and this video was insanely well done. Bravo.

    • @saintmillion
      @saintmillion  3 роки тому +38

      Stay tuned

    • @aidangarvey7049
      @aidangarvey7049 3 роки тому +10

      @@saintmillion The original Jedi Knight is one of my favourite games, I'm so hyped for you to do a video about that series. It always makes my day when I see a new video of yours

  • @ghostdog2041
    @ghostdog2041 3 роки тому +21

    46:33
    Holy shit, did Mark Hamill narrate the Star Wars toy commercials of the 90s?!

    • @rasputinsbeard3899
      @rasputinsbeard3899 3 роки тому

      I was thinking the same around the 20.30 mark, when the advertisement for the game was shown.

    • @Knightrogue24.
      @Knightrogue24. 3 роки тому

      He advertised to do narration for new star wars toys vehicles and playsets in the 90s yes. But he wasn't in any new film at all. You see all the prequel stuff George Lucas put in after the originals were all things that was being done individually as doing it to edit the canon timeline. So say for ex. Shadows of the Empire is an edited story installment between both Empire and Jedi. In between both of the originals. The prequels were edited story installments to expand the canon universe of the storyline; the sequels were broke after the books were released. Everything that has *NOT* been edited is everything George started from way in the beginning of the originals. Prequels, side stories, sequels, spin-offs, origins, chronicles, games, Wikipedia about other topics, yada yada yada ect. The edited stuff is all the above of what I had stated.
      The things that are not edited are the original films themselves alongside the vintage toy branding and merchandising for the original stories itself.
      The sequels are later installments which are edited to expand, the prequels are earlier mid installments to expand what happened in the past before the originals, and the side stories and origins or chronicles to fill in the missing gaps that were missing that brought confusion among the database of the fans itself.
      Then you all know the rest.

    • @dsdcool
      @dsdcool 3 роки тому

      Yep 46:33. I Noticed that too.

  • @yakov9542
    @yakov9542 3 роки тому +13

    This game was absolutely ground breaking at the time. It blew my mind back in 1996, I love it!

  • @emceeunderdogrising
    @emceeunderdogrising 3 роки тому +9

    This was one of my favorite games on N64. I absolutely loved it. It really setup my love for the extended novels and stories in general.

  • @Kuikkamies
    @Kuikkamies 3 роки тому +35

    Shadows of the Empire might not have the best storytelling, but goddangit it was the hottest shit when it was released.

    • @QuiGonJinn1993
      @QuiGonJinn1993 3 роки тому +7

      Its better than the sequels by along shot. IMO

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 2 роки тому +1

      @@QuiGonJinn1993 Dare I say prequels…

    • @ShaunBonJovi
      @ShaunBonJovi Рік тому +1

      @@fernie-fernandez as bad as they were, their charm expanded the universe. Disney has sure made it feel tiny.

    • @NixDeGraves8888
      @NixDeGraves8888 Рік тому

      @@ShaunBonJovi amen

  • @minispixelart8159
    @minispixelart8159 3 роки тому +47

    I've recently started going back into the EU and loved Shadows of the Empire. This was a great video. Fun and informative.

  • @Noiseheads
    @Noiseheads 3 роки тому +25

    It's so crazy to learn the inner-workings of something like this. As a kid or even just as an average consumer, you assume that things are the way they are for very good reason and that everything is 100% planned out... and then you learn that it's actually just a perfect storm of opportunities, talent, and luck that anything comes to fruition.

    • @Bollibompa
      @Bollibompa 3 роки тому

      Sounds like you're talking about stupid people. I'm not certain what an "average consumer" is but are you sure they have such a simplistic worldview?

    • @Noiseheads
      @Noiseheads 3 роки тому +3

      @@Bollibompa Average consumer as in the everyday person who might enjoy whatever they ‘consume’ but don’t necessarily care to find out how it was made...

  • @dr.medieval1131
    @dr.medieval1131 3 роки тому +8

    I've been a Star Wars fan since a little boy in '77 and I have to say that the best time to be a fan was in the Nineties. There was this energy. All the new products, toys, collectibles, comics, novels, the re-release of the original trilogy and the promise of new films on the horizon. And all of it made by people who clearly loved the property, some being the first generation who grew up with Star Wars like myself.(I've done some Illustrations for Lucasfilm.) Great documentary on Shadows of the Empire.

  • @riftshredder5438
    @riftshredder5438 3 роки тому +15

    Actually in the story Xizor didn't find out that Luke was Vader's son, he learned that Luke was Anakin's son, remember that the emperor and Vader were keeping Vader's true identity a secret from the rest of the galaxy

    • @frankiejaeger4937
      @frankiejaeger4937 Рік тому +1

      No, Xizor knew (presumably through his spies) that "Skywalker" was Vader's former name so he puts two and two together and knows from pretty much the very beginning Luke is Vader's son..

    • @riftshredder5438
      @riftshredder5438 Рік тому +1

      @@frankiejaeger4937 even so, the point is it wasn't public knowledge that Vader use to be Anakin

  • @williamm2108
    @williamm2108 3 роки тому +3

    I watched this with my mom, she bought me a N64 when i was like 8 and we played this and many other games together, a lot of good information to go with the great memories, thank you.

  • @ManCave1972
    @ManCave1972 2 роки тому +5

    The production values on this documentary are incredible. This is the best coverage I’ve seen on Shadows.

  • @tonyfknb3896
    @tonyfknb3896 Рік тому +6

    One of the best games made, i still remember it vividly. The 1st level, the snow and flying around using the tow cable. The on foot fighting the AT AT, then chasing Bobo fett. So many memories. Getting chased by the Yetti thing too.
    Omg the soundtrack to this game is beautiful

  • @10011110011
    @10011110011 3 роки тому +78

    "Yoda kamikazis into Courusant."
    Why didnt I hear about this sooner?
    I wasted my life.

    • @theutilitymonster2615
      @theutilitymonster2615 3 роки тому +11

      The Infinities comics are great. Loved them as a kid and still have them now. They were reissued as a single graphic novel a few years back.

    • @10011110011
      @10011110011 3 роки тому

      @@theutilitymonster2615 oh? Good to know. I will look them up.

    • @probablyyourgreatestally8992
      @probablyyourgreatestally8992 3 роки тому +9

      It's kinda weird when you remember that Coruscant is inhabited by like a trillion people so Yoda ended up killiing maybe billions JUST to kill the emperor. Still pretty great.

    • @KingLofiOne
      @KingLofiOne 3 роки тому +3

      @@probablyyourgreatestally8992 The infinity comics are weird and sometimes tonally off-kilter, but luckily, they're What If's and therefore for all their faults are at their worst interesting to read.

    • @LazyBastard69
      @LazyBastard69 3 роки тому +12

      His crippling ketamine addiction drove him to it

  • @michaelbird27
    @michaelbird27 3 роки тому +12

    I loved this game growing up. It's one of the first games I beat as a child without any help. Dash Rendar needs to come back already.

  • @benjackman4814
    @benjackman4814 2 роки тому +3

    Shadows of the Empire gave us a game, ost, book, comic, toys... and now we got the awesome documentary!! You're seriously the best Saintmillion!!

  • @NateIsCorrupt
    @NateIsCorrupt 3 роки тому +74

    The original Star Wars canon is infinitely greater than new Disney canon.

    • @markbartoszek8585
      @markbartoszek8585 3 роки тому +7

      SW died when Disney bought it. For me, there is no more SW.

    • @medalgear654
      @medalgear654 2 роки тому +1

      @rockberto y los demás? no infinitely better even with Mando.

  • @MrGauge00
    @MrGauge00 3 роки тому +16

    Great interview dude. My first memory of this game is when my parents were out of town as a kid and my older brother had a house party. He kept me quiet by putting me in my room with a tv, n64, and this game and it was the best night ever lol.

    • @fgdj2000
      @fgdj2000 3 роки тому

      I remember having my first PC and finally being able to play all these Star Trek and Star Wars PC games I had heard about after being "stuck" with the PSone. I think this was my first Star Wars game and I was so hooked on Hoth and played that first level probably more than the rest of the game. Later got caught up with the Jedi Knight games and KOTOR, which was just coming out, but by then my PC was old and couldn't handle KOTOR properly without crashing constantly, or lagging.

  • @CymruJedi
    @CymruJedi 3 роки тому +28

    This is an incredible video, I saw some old Lucas arts staff sharing this. You should be very proud! I would love to see a similar video for The Force Unleashed

  • @timandshannon03
    @timandshannon03 3 роки тому +6

    "It was I who allowed the Alliance to learn the location of the Shield Generator." LoL through Xizor.

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 3 роки тому +2

      He used Xizor to play out Vader to see where he stood in all of it.

  • @BEYOND-xl5ov
    @BEYOND-xl5ov 2 роки тому +6

    The interview with John Knoles was amazing. This is the best SOE making of video on the internet!

  • @bushranger8960
    @bushranger8960 3 роки тому +150

    Damn shame this story was De-canonised, I know some stuff from Legends was really questionable, but a ton of the stories were excellent!

    • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
      @anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 роки тому +27

      Yes, it seems INSANE that this story, one that George Lucas actually liked (and felt would have made a good movie), was thrown in to the heap that is, LEGENDS. I have a strong, sneaking suspicion that Favreau and Filoni will be (continually) mining (and even re-canonizing) this novel, and the multimedia project, for The Mandalorian, The Filoni-verse, and anything else that's on the horizon. Dash Rendar needs to be seen in both Live Action and Animation. Prince Xizor needs to play a bigger role in the universe, as well...maybe even making an appearance in the Kenobi miniseries, and The Mandaloarian.

    • @iplaydodgeball
      @iplaydodgeball 3 роки тому +3

      It was never canon

    • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
      @anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 роки тому +39

      @@iplaydodgeball Actually, Lucas considered this the closest thing to his trilogy, in The EU. I'll bet he considers this more canon than The ST.

    • @THEODSTKING117
      @THEODSTKING117 3 роки тому +27

      I hope at some point we reach a time where Disney’s trilogy gets de-canonized the same way they de-canonized so many stories

    • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
      @anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 роки тому +8

      @@THEODSTKING117 I think, at best, it will become a period that will officially (unofficially) be marginalized and ignored for the most part, within the major canon timeline. It will be seen as the trilogy that shall not be spoken of.

  • @richalexander1138
    @richalexander1138 3 роки тому +30

    Holy shit, perfect timing as I'm just about to read the novel!

    • @kevinvassago
      @kevinvassago 3 роки тому

      Im about to watch the motion comic! One of the best sw stories ever!

    • @timandshannon03
      @timandshannon03 3 роки тому

      Hope you enjoyed!

    • @reaperxxzify
      @reaperxxzify 2 роки тому

      How was your novel?

  • @EclipseHedgehog
    @EclipseHedgehog 3 роки тому +1

    dang, i was born in 91, so to me it felt like star wars was always there. I can't imagine how excited it must have been to hear the original trilogy coming back to theaters via "special edition" (whatever that meant at the time), a whole different chapter that expanded upon books, toys, comics and a game for the next console generation that took place between empire and jedi, AND a whole new prequel saga being planned which was a whole lot of hype in and of itself. must have been a good time to be an older star wars fan back then.

  • @EwokChris
    @EwokChris 3 роки тому +11

    Somehow found this in recommendations and I’m glad I did. Shadows of the Empire is one of my all time favorite Star Wars games ever. It was very interesting to see the making of the game and watch that interview with that developer. Great stuff!

  • @Loeildechat
    @Loeildechat 3 роки тому +30

    There is something I feel like only me ever noticed about dash rendar, he just really looks like Michael Biehn, same hair, same badly shaved beard, on the artworks, you can see he's basically got the same lips and jaw.

    • @coba8082
      @coba8082 3 роки тому +3

      I always thought it depended on the artwork you were looking at, but I can see Biehn in this! Personally I always thought it was more Dennis Quaid, but all these actors had that same basic Dash Rendar look at one time or another.

    • @rockomcdagger6364
      @rockomcdagger6364 3 роки тому +3

      Imo Michael Biehn or Bruce Campbell would have been awesome to use as a basis for Dash's look.

    • @DerekT860
      @DerekT860 3 роки тому +1

      I actually always thought he looked like Kevin costner...a lot like Kevin Costner

    • @PastaLuke
      @PastaLuke 3 роки тому +1

      Funny, I always thought he looked like my Dad's friend "Ty"

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 3 роки тому +1

      Chris Pratt

  • @HumbleHonkingEnthusiast
    @HumbleHonkingEnthusiast 3 роки тому +33

    Thank for you finally blessing us with more long-form star wars content

  • @threatlevel_TACO
    @threatlevel_TACO Рік тому +1

    As someone who grew up playing this on the N64, thank you for making this video. This game holds a special place in my heart. The way you created the unique menu with Wampa Stompa as the name is well done! Brought back a lot of memories.

  • @Adrian-qr6gk
    @Adrian-qr6gk 3 роки тому +2

    yo someone remembers this game other than me! i swear i loved this game so much when played a n64 before getting my xbox original. it felt so grand and the combat was very good. I wish we got more starwars games with this kind of vision

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby 3 роки тому +9

    Michael Biehn from Terminator and Aliens etc. would have been a great Dash Rendar model/actor if you ask me

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 роки тому +2

      Not a bad choice! Though I am sort of used to thinking of Dash as ginger...

    • @Canoby
      @Canoby 3 роки тому +2

      @@chrissonofpear1384 A little hair dye could change that, if they had wanted to.

    • @bucknasty69
      @bucknasty69 3 роки тому +1

      I think he would also have made a good Kyle Katarn as well.

    • @jlistetson
      @jlistetson 2 роки тому +1

      Really wish they wouldve made the Mandalorian’s “the Marshall” be Dash Rendar.

    • @Canoby
      @Canoby 2 роки тому

      @@jlistetson I’m digging Timothy Olyphant as Cobb Vanth, but I’d love for some live action Han Solo-lite with Dash showing up on a Disney Plus series too

  • @JonnyMainframe
    @JonnyMainframe 3 роки тому +15

    Having never read them and being 20+ years old collecting dust on my bookshelf, I was just about to get rid of my Thrawn Trilogy and Shadows of the Empire hard cover books until seeing this. You've inspired me to read them all now! I even still have the action figures with the comic books and the soundtrack on CD. I never realized what I big deal this all was back then.

  • @inblackestnight9256
    @inblackestnight9256 Рік тому +2

    Played the game many times, read/own the novel and comics, have the soundtrack on CD and digitally, and have some of the action figures. This was a project I went all in on when at its peak. Good times!

  • @jimmorti2153
    @jimmorti2153 3 роки тому +31

    This should of been kept cannon and turned into a Clone Wars style animated film.

    • @erikenn
      @erikenn 3 роки тому +13

      It is canon. Disney is fanfic

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 3 роки тому +1

      Yes!!

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 2 роки тому +1

      @@erikenn Imagine if Rob Zombie made a Star Wars film…

    • @ict113090
      @ict113090 Рік тому

      YES! They could bring Rebels back and set it after the destruction of Death Star 1 and they could integrate the events of Rogue Squadron and Shadows to it.

    • @ict113090
      @ict113090 Рік тому

      @@fernie-fernandez Sherry Moon Zombie as Leia? No thanks.

  • @OllieMendes
    @OllieMendes 3 роки тому +30

    Harmy's Despecialized is the only way to watch the unaltered film? Not true at all, we've also got Silver Screen Edition and project 4K77, a 4K scan of an original cleaned up theater reel. The people working on it also did 4K83 (Return of the Jedi) and are currently working on 4K80 (Empire Strikes Back).

    • @MkZuO12345
      @MkZuO12345 3 роки тому +3

      bitch, i got the old vhs tapes with original releases ;p

    • @jasonkoestner4630
      @jasonkoestner4630 3 роки тому

      4k77 in 4g i auseame the movie never looked better

    • @slvrcobra1337
      @slvrcobra1337 3 роки тому +1

      How many organs would someone have to sell in order to afford an original theater reel of these movies?

    • @snoo50
      @snoo50 3 роки тому

      @@MkZuO12345 not 16:9, so technically not the original theatrical release.

    • @MarCuseus
      @MarCuseus 3 роки тому

      @@snoo50 No, Star Wars film was ever released to ttheaters in 16:9...... **EPIC FACEPALM**

  • @philemonmendoza5352
    @philemonmendoza5352 3 роки тому +6

    Loved reading the books back when I was in my mid-teens. Timothy Zahn was a creative genius! This should definitely be a movie spinoff. Even animated if they go with that option. Heck, even a reboot of the game with original dialogue would be very awesome!

  • @brandonsmith7827
    @brandonsmith7827 Рік тому +4

    This feels like an official documentary. Thank you for all the hard work you poured into this!

  • @chewbaccasball12
    @chewbaccasball12 2 роки тому +10

    I love this soundtrack, and I am absolutely mind blown that McNeely wrote it in only two weeks. This is an incredible achievement as a composer. Do you know if he both composed and orchestrated in two weeks? If he did, I'll be both mindblowned and floored haha

  • @TSL73
    @TSL73 3 роки тому +8

    This is one of the best Star Wars related UA-cam videos I have seen.

  • @mcren6781
    @mcren6781 3 роки тому +4

    Shadows of the Empire took me to another place as a kid.. it was more than just a game.. I felt like it was real. Amazing experience and memories with my best friend playing this growing up.

  • @84paints
    @84paints 3 роки тому +2

    Oh wow hearing that shadows menu from the game brings back memories!

  • @jgalla5549
    @jgalla5549 3 роки тому +5

    I've watched behind the scenes stuff on basically every childhood game, but for some reason never for SotE. This was great.

  • @noahnoble451
    @noahnoble451 3 роки тому +5

    I'm blown away. I really appreciate you taking the time to dig into this lore and explain the full story -- including an interview with a developer!! This game was a huge part of my childhood as I discovered Star Wars and I've always wanted to know more about its production. Thanks again for the trip down memory lane and all the hard work you put into this!

  • @IntangirVoluntaryist
    @IntangirVoluntaryist 3 роки тому +4

    great video, thanks for taking me back, i played the game and read the book and enjoyed them both back in the 90s, but it was so long ago i mostly forgot it, the music is still awesome

  • @PwadigytheOddity
    @PwadigytheOddity Рік тому +2

    This game slapped. I remember finally beating Boba and IG-88 for the first time as a kid. Hard fights that were fun.

  • @diegomolina8305
    @diegomolina8305 2 роки тому +1

    I would never expected a documentary of this videogame, but I'm glad I found it.
    Thank you so much for this. I'm very grateful to have a catridge of this game and my N64 in my room.

  • @Hummeldon
    @Hummeldon 3 роки тому +15

    Phenomenal video, Saint. Information heavy while remaining easily digestible and entertaining. I knew nothing going in and this was so all encompassing I feel as if I read the comics and played the game myself. You are the damn Ken Burns of Star Wars lore.

  • @DylanHesp
    @DylanHesp 3 роки тому +4

    Fun fact, there was also a scale model kit made of Xizor's Virago fighter.

  • @blastkillskank
    @blastkillskank 3 роки тому +2

    Tell this man he is forever a part of my most favorite childhood memories ever. He should never doubt how epic and impactful all of his work was to many of us.

  • @jamesblake5176
    @jamesblake5176 Рік тому +2

    this project was one of the greatest star wars things ever created

  • @sackofcheese4190
    @sackofcheese4190 3 роки тому +11

    Wait a minute. Saintmillion uploaded! can’t wait to see you again in 4 months.

  • @DerekT860
    @DerekT860 3 роки тому +5

    I love the subtle nod to Kathleen Kennedy when talking about having to deal with corporate suits

  • @vedrfolnir7936
    @vedrfolnir7936 3 роки тому +2

    nostalgia overload...N64 and this game. Oh man..The rugged, heavy atmosphere when playing this as a kid was very special. It always felt like playing a movie. The OST was badass too.

  • @davo86
    @davo86 2 роки тому +3

    I was absolutely obsessed with this game on the N64 back in the day. Remember writing my own adaptation for the game at the age of 11 when I was at school back in 1998. Would love to see a remake of this game! No matter how old this game gets, it will always hold a special place in my childhood. God nostalgia is a powerful drug!

  • @bobdole461
    @bobdole461 3 роки тому +5

    I appreciate how much effort you put into your video essays. Your editing, comedic and informative commentary, and content overall are my favorite. Keep up your great work!

  • @Sergeant_Camacho
    @Sergeant_Camacho 3 роки тому +111

    Back then when Star Wars had a vision.

    • @rolithesecond
      @rolithesecond 3 роки тому +11

      George: You and you are in charge of making sure what is canon and that everything makes sense.
      Disney: Kylo Ren go brrrrrrr

    • @JamesCarmichael
      @JamesCarmichael 3 роки тому +3

      Now it's got macular degeneration.

    • @dei-wan-grey3888
      @dei-wan-grey3888 3 роки тому

      Yeh it Did

    • @nope5657
      @nope5657 3 роки тому

      You call a big marketing campaign to dupe people like you into buying all the shit LucasFilm shat out a "vision?" You Fandom Menace people are something else.

    • @JamesCarmichael
      @JamesCarmichael 3 роки тому +11

      ​@@nope5657 Yes because the original trilogy, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, Kotor, SotE, Battlefront, the EU are all shit right? Besides Star Wars has been losing money and interest for years now. Star Wars was a vision and it was one of the few that was successful. The fact that Episode 7 onwards even exist is a testament to its success and longevity of the franchise and Lucasfilm is only supplying for demand. Mistakes were made for sure along the way and George didn't really make Star Wars on his own contrary to what he may think. Disney on the other hand had no solid plan or vision because the vision wasn't theirs and modern Lucasfilm couldn't plan a picnic. What Disney and Lucasfilm have now is an Acquisition, not a Vision. You don't need to be part of the so called Fandom Menace to recognise this. Pigeonholing people doesn't help anything.

  • @IgoByaGo
    @IgoByaGo 3 роки тому +1

    I have this book signed by Steve Perry, I had the soundtrack, the Dark Horse comic, both the N64 and PC game, and oh yeah, every single action figure from this series. Shadows of the Empire fueled my obsession for Star Wars. It holds a special place in my heart and memories.

  • @khukri_wielderxxx1962
    @khukri_wielderxxx1962 3 роки тому +2

    The memories from Shadows of the Empire are strong with me

  • @openg739
    @openg739 3 роки тому +4

    One of the all time greatest goose bump cinematic experiences for me was seeing the Outrider in the Special Edition version of " A New Hope" My big brother and I just absolutely geeked out when we saw that ship take off from Mos Eisley.

    • @ShadeHeart94
      @ShadeHeart94 Рік тому

      Same. Been hoping fingers crossed ever since.

  • @GMMReviews
    @GMMReviews 3 роки тому +6

    1:05:15 In the SOTE video game this is very different, Vader hates sand because it's corse, and rough, and it gets everywhere.

  • @GolfCoyote
    @GolfCoyote 3 роки тому +2

    Man that music from the game was nostalgia city. Also forgot how good it was

  • @christopherm.7310
    @christopherm.7310 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you. One of my favorite books and video games of all time. I wish these got more appreciation.

  • @KanaroBurglaar
    @KanaroBurglaar 3 роки тому +5

    I remember playing this as a kid back in the day. It was my favourite game. Flying a Snowspeeder during the Hoth battle blew my mind. It was like I am part of the Movie. Also loved the train sequence allthough IG 88 Scared the shit out of me. Thank you very much for this Video. It made my day.

  • @baronesscisarovna1898
    @baronesscisarovna1898 3 роки тому +7

    You're honestly one of the most underrated youtubers. Also I'm trying to break into Concept Art and I've followed Doug Chiang's work for quite a bit bit damn I didn't know he designed my favorite Star Wars star-fighter so thanks for dropping that knowledge on me.

  • @DPham1
    @DPham1 3 роки тому +1

    What an in-depth look at one of Star Wars' most interesting projects. A lot of time and love went into making this.
    McNeely is one of the best non-John Williams Star Wars composers. Shadows' OST is such an awesome and masterful demonstration of retaining that Star Wars feel (without feeling like ripping off Williams) and also expanding on that sound by adding a personal touch. And the fact McNeely wrote it in 2 weeks?! Genius.
    Disney not asking Mcneely to come back to score Star Wars projects is a crime. "Battle of Gall" is a track I go back to time and time again.

  • @gangsterHOTLINE
    @gangsterHOTLINE 2 місяці тому

    Shadows of the Empire is one of the finest pieces of Star Wars lore. The book was absolutely brilliant. The game was jaw-dropping for me as a kid. Dash Rendar to this day is one of my favorite characters in all of Star Wars. Thank you for making this awesome tribute to Shadows.

  • @FrankPiacitelli
    @FrankPiacitelli 3 роки тому +6

    Man, this was really, really enjoyable to watch. I loved Shadows of the Empire on Nintendo 64, and short of seeing the Outrider pop up here and there over the years, I had no idea of the other versions and parts of this story. Well done!

  • @dreadacide
    @dreadacide 3 роки тому +5

    Learning about Miyamoto's desire to see feet is the best thing I've heard in years

    • @dannyurdb8616
      @dannyurdb8616 3 роки тому +1

      He would get along with Quentin Tarantino!

  • @mdgarciasa
    @mdgarciasa 3 роки тому +1

    This is a landmark in my teenage years. I read the book, played the game and played with the toys... it really got me into star wars... I haven't left since haha

  • @Yesnog05
    @Yesnog05 3 роки тому +14

    calling it now, Dash will make a surprising cameo in the mandalorian

    • @neonkenomi320
      @neonkenomi320 3 роки тому

      I'd like that very much. :)

    • @plissken94th57
      @plissken94th57 3 роки тому +1

      I think Kyle Kathryn will as well

    • @regishel
      @regishel 3 роки тому

      Sadly with the canon comics, Dash doesn't fit in the canon anymore.
      You can't have his story between those movies in canon.

    • @plissken94th57
      @plissken94th57 3 роки тому

      @@regishel not anymore but he is light canon right after the Solo movie. If he’s in the Mandalorian it would make sense, he can mention Han but tell Djin that he’s the best pilot in the sector of space he’s in, Kyle Katarn can even come back if they do it right which I know Favreau and Filoni will, they’re like the rule of 2 in lucasfilm right now

  • @Bstascavage
    @Bstascavage 3 роки тому +6

    Amazing video! It is awesome to see this part of Star Wars history showcased, especially since it gets easily overlooked. Your videos are top-notch!

  • @villepuurtinen912
    @villepuurtinen912 3 роки тому +5

    Loved this. I have very fond memories of the reading the comics as a kid and catching a glimpse of the video game at an amusement park. I remember being absolutely wowed by the game and I remember it being that end level space battle. I also own the bounty hunter Chewie toy. Great stuff!

  • @andrewvincent7299
    @andrewvincent7299 Рік тому +4

    Dash Rendar always reminded me of Snake Plissken which I thought was a perfect type character for the Star Wars universe. I always thought they based Dash on Kurt Russell.

    • @andrewforte3852
      @andrewforte3852 Рік тому +1

      You know Kurt Russell auditioned for Han Solo but lost out to Harrison Ford who was merely an understudy for the other actors. He would've made a great Dash Rendar at the time.

  • @YouOpaOpa
    @YouOpaOpa 3 роки тому +3

    This was really, really, really good! Back then I managed to read, listen, read and play everything Shadows of the Empire related, so it's awesome to see it all again, in this new light.

  • @ToonamiT0M
    @ToonamiT0M 3 роки тому +61

    After being horrendously disappointed by the Disney "trilogy," I've started collecting all the Shadows of the Empire products to experience this story for the first time. So far, I'm loving it.

    • @buddyfett1341
      @buddyfett1341 3 роки тому +8

      Look into the real sequel trilogy, the Thrawn Trilogy books: 1 Heir to the Empire, 2 Dark Force Rising, 3 The Last Command
      When sequel movies were first announced, I got pumped thinking these would be turned into movies.
      After reading them and seeing how perfect they fit into the story, you'll hate Disney Star Wars even more.

    • @ToonamiT0M
      @ToonamiT0M 3 роки тому +2

      @@buddyfett1341 I've already picked up books 2 and 3. Once I find the first I'll definitely be reading them.

    • @BlackVeilSavior
      @BlackVeilSavior 3 роки тому +2

      @@ToonamiT0M try ‘thrift books com’

    • @willlauzon3744
      @willlauzon3744 3 роки тому +1

      Even if not Thrawn they could have had a Thrawn like villain.

  • @BardicBroadcasts
    @BardicBroadcasts 3 роки тому +3

    Plenty of top level Hildebrand Brothers artwork I see. Lovely!

  • @AlystrZelland
    @AlystrZelland 3 роки тому +2

    Dude the transitions, the thoughtful commentary, the interviews-- brilliant

  • @MechEngin3er26
    @MechEngin3er26 3 роки тому +10

    Shadows of the Empire needs a legit remake using a hybrid engine of Gears of War and Metal Gear Solid. It would probably be the best star wars game ever made.

    • @javiergarcia563
      @javiergarcia563 3 роки тому

      And then Dark Forces: Jedi Knight aswell. Those years were really good for Star Wars stuff.