I don't mind that unit carrying it around. Once you've carried vinyl and turntables in a large flight case this is nothing compared to that Oh and let's not forget separate powered amplifier and speakers.
Cleveland gave me 4 18” earthquakes and 4 2kw amps with rolling boxes. Heaviest shit I’ve ever had to drag to the desert. But it smashes at those desert parties and it’s impressive looking. Thanks Cleveland!
great review and thanks. I had the Rev 7 and traded it in for the Performer and could not be happier and mainly for these reasons: Four channels, non proprietary power cord, on board stem controls, also for what ever reason, my Rev 7 was very glitchy with both Serato and Rekordbox.. no issues at all with the Performer (Serato) which i prefer anyawys. Also appreciate the metal build w/ feet on bottom. The Jogs are a tad bigger and super torquey and responsive. when i attach turn tables or cdj's etc, the four channels come in handy or I can use four deck channels internally as well. True they are both great, but at the same price point I just see so much more value and capability with the Performer and am very happy I got it. Cheers!
Man rane had a chance to really win a few people over but as someone that uses a rev but actually wants a rane I can’t do it. Rane needs a true battle style minimal version of the Rane one. The layout is what kills it for me. It’s a diarrhea of buttons. And stuff like the left pitch fader and right stop button being awkward position is a no go. Especially when motorize platters are supposed to be for a specific group of djs. They need a rane one special edition, no screen in the jog 2 ch with a true battle layout. With 1/3 the buttons. It only needs effects and stems. And the typical 8 pads. Or make a modular version (it would cost a ton) where you can move certain layouts
Awesome breakdown. If I didn't already have the Rev and I was trying to decide between the 2, after watching g this I would still go with the Rev just cause of personal preference and it having the same layout as my S11 and Rane twelves. Also I had the 1000SRT and I never used channels 3 & 4 on that so the other faders and eq knobs are just clutter to me. But I do think Rane did a couple little things better that I wish the Rev would have done. Like the magnets that hold the platters on instead for the plastic clips. That was a good idea. Also giving people the felt slipmats along with the plastic ones is nice too. Cutting up some slip mats to put in my Rev was a little bit of a pain. This is an excellent demo video of these 2 competing controllers. 👍
Everytime I see any comparisons to any Rane products from you. You low key subliminally crap on Rane. You just seem to be a big fan of Pioneer products. Which is cool. To each their own. But just my observation.
I was going to ditch my Rane One for the Rev7 I just loved the layout of the Rev7 with more features but I was givin a faulty Rev7 which I bought brand new from the box it put me off instantly so I went back to the Rane One lol.. Love my little tank😂
Thank you for comparison for both controllers. You’re making me happy with my decision to keep both my Rev7 and 1000-SRT. I had the Rane 4 and I had to take it back. But now seeing this comparison between the Performer and Rev7 is really no difference. I’m definitely keeping my Rev7 and I’m not even gonna think about getting the Performer. Thank you for your honest and unbiased opinion. Much love to you.
Cleveland which one would go better with Virtual DJ ? I have used the Pioneer DDJ sx2, and the Pioneer DDJ sx3. I have never used anything rain with Virtual DJ?
Buyer be very aware that the last unit the Rane 4 was plagued with issues I have one in which I repaired myself no thanks to Rane customer service. Do not jump out and spend your money right away Check all forums about both units and make a decision.
With the new firmware update (v2.0.1) on the Pioneer Rev 7, there is stem split buttons...hold hot cue and press the scratch bank button. To enact the stem blue button function. So the Rev actually wins.... given its a 2 year controller.😊
Really appreciate that you shot this again from scratch! Enjoyed watching this new format, hoping to see more "And the winner is...?" videos in the future! (You've got the animations for it, might as well reuse them.) Backstreet works for Everybody
I was young and dumb. Had a coffin with an amp with my mixer and turntables. I think 90% of the old school dj’s have back problems from the old heavy equipment.
Absolutely reaffirms my decision to not buy the Performer. With the Rev 7, it's all I need. I spin primarily House Music here around Chicagoland. I'm not forgetting my power cord or need stem splitting. There's no 2 thousand dollar reason for me to move on to the Performer. I have the Rane One, which I do not even bother with, because the pitch on both sides is equally far off zero center. So I'm not sold on Rane quality with controllers. They get no more of my money! 12 years of Pioneer controllers, and I've had no issues! I still have and use my Pioneer DDJ-SX2!
I have both controllers the rev7 and the Rane Four Performer. Both controllers are good but when it comes to stems the Rane Four nails it! It's a different type of controller. I have much more fun using the Performer. My mixes on the Rane Four are way different from the rev7. The split stems take it to the next level. I like to split stem the track use the filter roll on the vocals believe me it sounds real cool or use the onboard FX that the new Rane four has other than just the echo. I can make my tracks sound like a remix using the cool new FX. The little screen on top of the pads I love so much they make a difference, I label my hot cues and acapellas and it will show on the little screen how I labeled them also for my samples so I know what samples I have. All I can say I have much more fun using the Rane Performer, I can be all day using the Rane Four coming up with crazy ideas. Can't wait to use it for my next gig.
The fact that you still need to connect a laptop doesn’t make it a “ kinda standalone “. The term standalone simply means no dependence on laptop. It won’t work without laptop connected.
As always, great video and comparison. As a videographer/editor and DJ myself, I know lots of work goes into creating this content, appreciate you, Bro! You've stated many times, the perfect gear doesn't exist. I love the new Stem implementation on the Performer, but I prefer my pads in the middle like the Rev 7. Mainly due to my current muscle memory. The infamous 4 channel debate gives Rane the edge IMO. Unless there's a Summer Namm/Expo to skew my opinion! LOL!
Both controllers are great. Coming from turntables…the Rev7 slightly wins for me due to its smaller weight and size. I got the rev7 for easy transport instead of lugging turntables to some gigs. Also, the buttons are not below the platters that can get in my way. The Rane is nice though, but i’m lazy and getting older. I don’t want to carry heavier gear than what I already have. I would get the Rane if i had extra money to burn.
Another big advantage of the REV7 is that you can distribute 12 effects directly to 2 FX A+B banks - so you have 18 effects with the factory setting (6) available at the touch of a button - this is not possible with the Rane. The smooth echo is also a cool thing with the REV7
I really like the Rev7 but it failed me in the middle of a gig: right platter started spinning backwards and then forward really fast. It was a nightmare. Went back to my good Ole 1000srt. I now have ptsd from buying new gear. Performer still looks tempting but I have better things to do with $2K lol. Good video as always!
Hello DJ Cleveland. Hope all is well. I know you have an extremely busy schedule but please check your email. I know you can point me in the right direction.
Hey CT, it was a great comparison and the fact that you use both is pretty Dope. That hate about the Technics t-shirt.......geeeees !! No worries....haters gonna hate !! 😂😂
Great comparison but there was no mention of screens over pads, or the ATrak fader effects on the Rane. I do think the effects overall sound better on the Pioneer but the possible creative uses of fader effects really makes me consider the Rane.
the rane performer beats the rev7 on every way from platters,4 chanels,stems,durabilty,sound etc..my only thing i dont like the rane is the weight..too heavy to carry around
Here's what I don't understand about the battle style on controllers. That method was only used to make it more convenient for turntablists to have a bigger area of the record to scratch etc. There's no two ways about it it's an awkward setup and seeing there is no time arm, it defies the point... the pitch being in an awkward position was a trade off & as much as I understand some may be used to it... it was always a compromise.
Love your material, new subscriber, returning DJ, you help me make sense of the stuff I missed while I wasn’t spinning I return strictly for the love. I have been playing on the Rane 4 for about three weeks and I absolutely love it. I’m still debating if I can afford to upgrade to the Rane Performer. Cause, of course I learned on turntables. 🤨😕 buy something new and ne model come out before end of the month. I see that hasn’t changed.
THANK YOU!! For various reasons THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for since the Super Bowl. CT, when you’re done playing with the Rane will you be running back to the Rev 7 for your go to controller? With all of your gear you own do you even have a go to anymore,lol?
This is a good case in point for why competition is good for everyone. It's good for us because we get quality and options. It's good for companies because it inspires them to make a better product. I would argue that it's always been a good time to be a DJ, even in the late 70's when the disco clubs got MKII's with a pitch fader. Love that we don't have a monopoly in this industry being lackadaisical, I obviously realize Pioneer sets the club standard, but because of that fact they can't experiment as much as Denon does, for example, with their CDJs. Win win win for the DJ scene. We are blessed with all these wonderful toys!
id go for the rev 7 ...i play at a radio and they use a rane and it has too many features and malfunctions ...the rev 7 can remap censor as instrumental
Build quality is terrible on rev7 why wouldn't u evn mention the Micky mouse plastic on pioneer to the solid Rane bulid , they can't compare not even close
Because it’s an unsubstantiated claim. Metal construction doesn’t automatically make a better controller. I’ve seen plenty of all metal Rane products have issues and I’ve seen some “plastic” ones survive nuclear winter…and vice versa.
@@ClevelandTerry Every review I have seen of the REV7 shows a 'gap' when moving the jogwheel back and forth quickly (scratching), it makes a noise, and has a slightly sloppy feel because of the small gap between the sensors picking up the movement when it changes direction. I have not owned one though, so I am only speaking from the experience of other people's reviews. The rane performer jog wheels do not do this due to the design.
I feel like dj tech is a bit behind. What I want is standalone motorised and the tech to do this was there 5 years ago. Also I tried to get the Rane Performer in the UK on 0% apr credit and was denied twice so I just gave up. Hard saving for that will take me about 15 months, by which time something new will be out I'm sure. Finally, I think rev7 has the huge advantage of working with both Serato and Rekordbox which is important to some people, but ultimately the build quality on the Rane seems better 😀
that's no tie Terry - being too liberal !! Rane wins hands down - but I gotcha they both can get the job done just like how I used to use a Gemini mixer and then upgraded to a 54.
I was waiting for a unit like the Rane Performer to come out after my NS7ii died, and wasn't happy with getting the Rev7 since it wasn't built natively with stems, so I bought the Inpulse T7, but now that I've been spoiled by an 11lbs controller, it's going to hurt going back up to a 28lbser. I'm hoping they will come up with an upgrade to the Rane One, I really don't think I'll use the stem features on the performer and I just want something that's more compact, lighter and streamlined, like the T7.
If all I want is GOOD feeling controller vinyl feel Ia the Rane one is just as good? Or does the performer win, no contest? Like is the feel day amd night?... trying to figure out an easy BBQ party set up, and I have only used 1200s my entire career(Rane 62 mixer since 2013)
Anyway, the Rane Performer will be outdated when the Performax XZY will be out and another comparison between that and something else. Do we realize the lost brain time in thinking which controller should we get or controller vs 2 CDJ / Denon + mixer or turntables or this or that. And THAT, knowing that we already have a great gear setup and we look for better that does more and sorry but who is going deeply in everything that a Rane Performer propose ? That is too many functions for 90% of DJ’s. When the Rane One came out, I’ve tested and bought it and love it because it’s kinda « back to basics ». Yes, this Rane Performer is dope and for someone that needs to change, because it’s setup doesn’t fit his/her needs, then great. But for the vast majority of us, it’s another big €€. I’ll change, perhaps, when they will make it standalone
Speaking of longevity I ran the NS7 iii since 2015 nothing came close and the Rane 1 was just comparable. I had to buy a Rane 4 because Numark wouldn’t update the drivers to windows 11. I was the first in Michigan to get a Performer now it’s longevity will WAY OUT LIVE that Rev 7. It will be the new standard for other companies to live up to. It turns you into a musical magician. RIP Rev 7. Not knocking you guys that own one, to each his own.
Great review fam. I still run my ol trusty 4 channel Denon MC7000 and have been wanting moving platters and dedicated stem controls for a while. I almost bought the Hercules T7 when it came out but now, I'm so happy I waited!! The RANE PERFORMER is just what the doctor ordered!!
They are two very different controllers and Rane the material is more resistant. The sound card is 32-bit and that of the REV 7 is 24-bit and you can tell the difference. They don't compete between them and Rane Performer is far above all the controllers. Please let me know when you find the STEM-SPLIT in the REV 7.
Two different style controllers but REV 7 is great!!! The smaller profile just kills it for me when traveling. I personally don't need 4 channels and I love the battle mixer feel and where the pads are. Its quicker to navigate Stems with just the kill buttons than additional steps on the Performer. The only thing that kills it with the Performer is being able to have a non proprietary power cord and the bigger jog wheels.
Great review of both products. Sorry you had to record twice. I do think the Rane should've gotten a higher score than the Rev on Displays, even if it currently can't display logos. The versatility of the Performer should put it above. Also something worth noting is the Performer is going to be the better controller for those using virtual DJ. Especially with Stems.
Can you do a video like you did for the DDJ REV 7 where you access the channel faders? Rumor has it that on the Performer you can access the faders from the top of the controller like you can on the Rane 72 mixer? I'm now hearing from a few Performer users that you cannot access the faders and that they aren't user replaceable?
Great Review. Owned Rane 70, S11 and Rev 7 and nothing sounds as good as the 70... Rane just sounds better. Pioneer still sounds great, just not the Rane...
Ever think of doing a rewind. See how the Numark NS7iii stacks up against the new ones. I bet it would still do very well. I consider it the one all others are judged against.
Love how you said the effects we use lol. Much as I love that pitch down effect on rev 7. I used it when I first got it. And went back to echo out. Out effects barely use. Especially with stems
Great content love it ❤! Question How did you hook up both controllers using the same system ? Question 2 how would I hook up two controllers and two computers to the same Sound system?
@@ClevelandTerry Thank you for getting back to me I appreciate it . I know this is a bit much but is there away you can draw up a schematic or make a vlog about to do or do you know another vlog that has all read done it and has it on there channel with the equipment that they use and cables need to hook all this up ? Thank you 🙏🏾
It's good that you measure the controllers . I really thought the pioneer rev 1 was really small ,until I got the rev 1 it wasn't that bad although still easy to carry around. Moving on to the rane performer ,it's an amazing controller to have .the display screens are bigger and 4 channels. Also dedicated stems buttons
Great review! What is the white skin you have on your Rev 7? Is that 12 inch skins? Would like to get a skin for that middle section for my Rev 7 that is becoming tattered and fading out around the crossfader area in the future.
What would your take for a 2 channel set up between a REV 7 and a S7 or S11 w/ 2- Rane MK2? Not as portable and no stems on the S7 or S9. What would you go for? I do alot of bar gigs if that helps you out. Thanks Terry!
Once again, a very thorough review by CT! Both controllers are super-solid and you really cannot go wrong with either... I think it comes down to which features and/or layout suits you best.
I have the Rane One for the past 3 years. And even on the performer i ear that the music have less energy. I remember going after a dj that uses traktor. We had the same volume peak wise. But the tone of the rane had less energy. Even on this video i can ear it. It’s a weird thing.
Loving the vid so far, just wanted to comment before I forget. You can switch the REV7 to mono in the utility menu on on the controller itself. Having a dedicated switch is nice though.
So I have the rev7 and the Rane performer… I agree on a lot of the things you said in the video… thanks for making it.. I been using the rane for 3 days and I can’t get past the work flow of the buttons not being Battle style… that’s more of my style but every thing else is great on both controllers… I think I may stick with the rev7
As you say it's all about preference and although minor I love that you can browse the library on the jog screens of the Rane. Less looking at the computer screen = better
You can have cues and stems available at the same time on the rane four by holding the hot cue button and hitting the stem button while holding. That will split the pads where cues are on the top 4 pads and stems on the bottom 4. Is that not available anymore? You mentioned you wanted the stem pads available without pressing two things
Thx CT. Its always pleasure hearing your thoughts. The echo effects on mic was a good findings as the bpm increase will affect the echo, and never knew Performer got echo also on its mic. 2nd good finding thru ur video.. Its ice on a cake u got there. Hot pad in the middle also a good point, Rev 7 take the cake on it. Previously Rev 7 and Rane One on the ring, but its an honour to Rev 7, when most people compare Rev 7 with the Performer now, little discredit to Rane one actually..haha..anyway..Kudos to this video brotha, its good info. cheers. Take care.Im gonna go with my Rane one as for now. hahaha😆😆😆👍
The REV-7 & Performer are 2 completely different controllers. Dont let the motorised jog wheels trick you. The REV-7 is a battle styled layout and the Performer is a wannabe FLX-10 for club djs who also plan on doing in clubs using in house equipment which is always pioneer. If you're a battle DJ and dont care about playing in clubs using club gear get the REV-7. However, if you are planning on playing in clubs and don't care about battling get the FLX-10 or the Performer.
Whats the difference between 2 and a 4 channel mixer.channel wise.let say if in case the 2 channels or at least of the asigned channels on the rane gone bad,can u asign another channel.where as the rev 7 has only 2.if in case obe gone bad,what do you do.are they replacable.
I don't mind that unit carrying it around. Once you've carried vinyl and turntables in a large flight case this is nothing compared to that Oh and let's not forget separate powered amplifier and speakers.
Facts!!
Facts!!!!! Crates alone used to be alot
Yup carrying five 50lbs milk crates of records into the club back in the 90s and early 2000s, sucked
This review is contradicting in my opinion
Cleveland gave me 4 18” earthquakes and 4 2kw amps with rolling boxes. Heaviest shit I’ve ever had to drag to the desert. But it smashes at those desert parties and it’s impressive looking. Thanks Cleveland!
great review and thanks. I had the Rev 7 and traded it in for the Performer and could not be happier and mainly for these reasons: Four channels, non proprietary power cord, on board stem controls, also for what ever reason, my Rev 7 was very glitchy with both Serato and Rekordbox.. no issues at all with the Performer (Serato) which i prefer anyawys. Also appreciate the metal build w/ feet on bottom. The Jogs are a tad bigger and super torquey and responsive. when i attach turn tables or cdj's etc, the four channels come in handy or I can use four deck channels internally as well. True they are both great, but at the same price point I just see so much more value and capability with the Performer and am very happy I got it. Cheers!
Excellent
the Rev 7 is flawless with serato here
Rane has the worst customer service and warranty! Keep that in mind when you decide.
Man rane had a chance to really win a few people over but as someone that uses a rev but actually wants a rane I can’t do it. Rane needs a true battle style minimal version of the Rane one. The layout is what kills it for me. It’s a diarrhea of buttons. And stuff like the left pitch fader and right stop button being awkward position is a no go. Especially when motorize platters are supposed to be for a specific group of djs. They need a rane one special edition, no screen in the jog 2 ch with a true battle layout. With 1/3 the buttons. It only needs effects and stems. And the typical 8 pads. Or make a modular version (it would cost a ton) where you can move certain layouts
I agree
Awesome breakdown. If I didn't already have the Rev and I was trying to decide between the 2, after watching g this I would still go with the Rev just cause of personal preference and it having the same layout as my S11 and Rane twelves. Also I had the 1000SRT and I never used channels 3 & 4 on that so the other faders and eq knobs are just clutter to me.
But I do think Rane did a couple little things better that I wish the Rev would have done. Like the magnets that hold the platters on instead for the plastic clips. That was a good idea. Also giving people the felt slipmats along with the plastic ones is nice too. Cutting up some slip mats to put in my Rev was a little bit of a pain.
This is an excellent demo video of these 2 competing controllers. 👍
The REV 7 already won for me because I bought mine 2 years ago. The way my checking and savings are setup, I can’t succumb to gear lust!
bro you gotta run some heists, that's all
THE performer only has the 4 deck thing going for it, I'm. good with two truth be told
Naa bro, stems alone sets it apart, if u are going to by 1 today, at the same price ur going Rane bro@LocutusOfWarborgOneOfOne
@@nayaleezywhat’s a heist?
Thanks brother for the great info I’m a rev7 user.. I’m very happy with my controller..
Everytime I see any comparisons to any Rane products from you. You low key subliminally crap on Rane. You just seem to be a big fan of Pioneer products. Which is cool. To each their own. But just my observation.
Great review as always Terry. I’m sticking with my RANE ONE lol
Good idea my brother. Save your money. At the end of the day it’s all about better sound quality and great music.
Me too haha still enjoying it! Just wait till it’s older and a new rane controller will be out and we will be ready for it!
I was going to ditch my Rane One for the Rev7 I just loved the layout of the Rev7 with more features but I was givin a faulty Rev7 which I bought brand new from the box it put me off instantly so I went back to the Rane One lol.. Love my little tank😂
DITTO. My one is fine.
Thank you for comparison for both controllers. You’re making me happy with my decision to keep both my Rev7 and 1000-SRT. I had the Rane 4 and I had to take it back. But now seeing this comparison between the Performer and Rev7 is really no difference. I’m definitely keeping my Rev7 and I’m not even gonna think about getting the Performer. Thank you for your honest and unbiased opinion. Much love to you.
Same here. I am keeping Rev 7 and my SRT 1000.. many thanks for the review..
LOVE MY DJ REV -7 ITS THE BEST FOR ME... DJ1740 GOOD TO SEE YOU C.T. HAVE A GREAT WEEKED...
Cleveland which one would go better with Virtual DJ ? I have used the Pioneer DDJ sx2, and the Pioneer DDJ sx3. I have never used anything rain with Virtual DJ?
Buyer be very aware that the last unit the Rane 4 was plagued with issues I have one in which I repaired myself no thanks to Rane customer service. Do not jump out and spend your money right away Check all forums about both units and make a decision.
@@roymoxley2587 The same goes for Pioneer.
With the new firmware update (v2.0.1) on the Pioneer Rev 7, there is stem split buttons...hold hot cue and press the scratch bank button. To enact the stem blue button function. So the Rev actually wins.... given its a 2 year controller.😊
Really appreciate that you shot this again from scratch! Enjoyed watching this new format, hoping to see more "And the winner is...?" videos in the future! (You've got the animations for it, might as well reuse them.)
Backstreet works for Everybody
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2 1200's a 19" mixer in a coffin in the 80's to now is Gorge Jetson. 💯
That classic setup is always golden 💪🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I used the coffin maybe once then got flight cases for each table.
Always!!!
I was young and dumb. Had a coffin with an amp with my mixer and turntables. I think 90% of the old school dj’s have back problems from the old heavy equipment.
Great video.. I read some of the comments about the shirt.. didn’t see an issue.. thought it was classic 😂😂
Thanks for this video....btw, the new intro is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can't go wrong with that Black Technics T Shirt...I have one and would have done the same thing...
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REV 7 winner all day (biggie voice)
2nd time is a charm, great video! Thanks for the info. Looking forward for the next one! Feliz fin de semana!🎉👏👏🇲🇽
Absolutely reaffirms my decision to not buy the Performer. With the Rev 7, it's all I need. I spin primarily House Music here around Chicagoland. I'm not forgetting my power cord or need stem splitting. There's no 2 thousand dollar reason for me to move on to the Performer. I have the Rane One, which I do not even bother with, because the pitch on both sides is equally far off zero center. So I'm not sold on Rane quality with controllers. They get no more of my money! 12 years of Pioneer controllers, and I've had no issues! I still have and use my Pioneer DDJ-SX2!
I get that
I have both controllers the rev7 and the Rane Four Performer. Both controllers are good but when it comes to stems the Rane Four nails it! It's a different type of controller. I have much more fun using the Performer. My mixes on the Rane Four are way different from the rev7. The split stems take it to the next level. I like to split stem the track use the filter roll on the vocals believe me it sounds real cool or use the onboard FX that the new Rane four has other than just the echo. I can make my tracks sound like a remix using the cool new FX. The little screen on top of the pads I love so much they make a difference, I label my hot cues and acapellas and it will show on the little screen how I labeled them also for my samples so I know what samples I have. All I can say I have much more fun using the Rane Performer, I can be all day using the Rane Four coming up with crazy ideas. Can't wait to use it for my next gig.
The Rane is kinda standalone, because you can close your laptop lid, and DJ with the unit, because the crates are visible in the turntable display.
Have you actually been able to fully close the laptop and use it that way? That would be great.
The fact that you still need to connect a laptop doesn’t make it a “ kinda standalone “. The term standalone simply means no dependence on laptop. It won’t work without laptop connected.
Excellent review! Thank you!
Thank you CT for your time making this comparison video
i love your reviews and channel. God Bless keep doing your thing. 🎉
The Rane faders are all interchangeable with the crossfader…the Rev is not…the major difference is how one’s brain works…I think they are both amazing
The Performer line and crossfader are different... the CF is a mag4 and the LF are Precision Feel Fader
You are a real one! Getting the people the info we need.
As always, great video and comparison. As a videographer/editor and DJ myself, I know lots of work goes into creating this content, appreciate you, Bro! You've stated many times, the perfect gear doesn't exist. I love the new Stem implementation on the Performer, but I prefer my pads in the middle like the Rev 7. Mainly due to my current muscle memory. The infamous 4 channel debate gives Rane the edge IMO. Unless there's a Summer Namm/Expo to skew my opinion! LOL!
Both controllers are great. Coming from turntables…the Rev7 slightly wins for me due to its smaller weight and size. I got the rev7 for easy transport instead of lugging turntables to some gigs. Also, the buttons are not below the platters that can get in my way. The Rane is nice though, but i’m lazy and getting older. I don’t want to carry heavier gear than what I already have. I would get the Rane if i had extra money to burn.
Another big advantage of the REV7 is that you can distribute 12 effects directly to 2 FX A+B banks - so you have 18 effects with the factory setting (6) available at the touch of a button - this is not possible with the Rane.
The smooth echo is also a cool thing with the REV7
I really like the Rev7 but it failed me in the middle of a gig: right platter started spinning backwards and then forward really fast. It was a nightmare. Went back to my good Ole 1000srt. I now have ptsd from buying new gear. Performer still looks tempting but I have better things to do with $2K lol. Good video as always!
The srt always do that to me , over it
Hello DJ Cleveland. Hope all is well. I know you have an extremely busy schedule but please check your email. I know you can point me in the right direction.
Hey CT, it was a great comparison and the fact that you use both is pretty Dope. That hate about the Technics t-shirt.......geeeees !! No worries....haters gonna hate !! 😂😂
Hércules impulse t7 premium is another good choice 👍
Great comparison but there was no mention of screens over pads, or the ATrak fader effects on the Rane. I do think the effects overall sound better on the Pioneer but the possible creative uses of fader effects really makes me consider the Rane.
SEARCH STRIP os more USEFUL than STUPID butons for screen display change.
The Rev 7 is very solid. Pioneer knock it out of the park a long while ago and it still reigns. I’m good with it…
the rane performer beats the rev7 on every way from platters,4 chanels,stems,durabilty,sound etc..my only thing i dont like the rane is the weight..too heavy to carry around
Here's what I don't understand about the battle style on controllers. That method was only used to make it more convenient for turntablists to have a bigger area of the record to scratch etc. There's no two ways about it it's an awkward setup and seeing there is no time arm, it defies the point... the pitch being in an awkward position was a trade off & as much as I understand some may be used to it... it was always a compromise.
Love your material, new subscriber, returning DJ, you help me make sense of the stuff I missed while I wasn’t spinning I return strictly for the love. I have been playing on the Rane 4 for about three weeks and I absolutely love it. I’m still debating if I can afford to upgrade to the Rane Performer. Cause, of course I learned on turntables. 🤨😕 buy something new and ne model come out before end of the month. I see that hasn’t changed.
This was all over the internet from super bowl..we just did not know they were going to drop it.
@@trelawnytownmaroons8456 Yep same here , all good Rane 4 is really nice. I still have 12s I need to bust off. They will work on this controller.
Personally the Rev 7 is great. All the extras on that Rane are just too much. Layout alone is why I won’t leave the Rev 7.
THANK YOU!! For various reasons THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for since the Super Bowl.
CT, when you’re done playing with the Rane will you be running back to the Rev 7 for your go to controller? With all of your gear you own do you even have a go to anymore,lol?
Truthfully, I like them both but because of the added weight and size the Rane is going into my furniture. I’ll use the rev for everything else
This is a good case in point for why competition is good for everyone. It's good for us because we get quality and options. It's good for companies because it inspires them to make a better product. I would argue that it's always been a good time to be a DJ, even in the late 70's when the disco clubs got MKII's with a pitch fader. Love that we don't have a monopoly in this industry being lackadaisical, I obviously realize Pioneer sets the club standard, but because of that fact they can't experiment as much as Denon does, for example, with their CDJs. Win win win for the DJ scene. We are blessed with all these wonderful toys!
Agreed
I plan to upgrade from NS7ii to the Performer.
id go for the rev 7 ...i play at a radio and they use a rane and it has too many features and malfunctions ...the rev 7 can remap censor as instrumental
Build quality is terrible on rev7 why wouldn't u evn mention the Micky mouse plastic on pioneer to the solid Rane bulid , they can't compare not even close
Because it’s an unsubstantiated claim. Metal construction doesn’t automatically make a better controller. I’ve seen plenty of all metal Rane products have issues and I’ve seen some “plastic” ones survive nuclear winter…and vice versa.
@@ClevelandTerryBingo! Lol
Ok, so when does the pioneer version with 4 decks come out?
Rev7 overrated, mixer is god-like, though ❤
What about the annoying sloppyness and clicky sound when trying to scratch on the Rev7 platter ?
@@DjNikGnashers I don’t get a clicky sound on my rev platters My slip mats are felt.
@@ClevelandTerry Every review I have seen of the REV7 shows a 'gap' when moving the jogwheel back and forth quickly (scratching), it makes a noise, and has a slightly sloppy feel because of the small gap between the sensors picking up the movement when it changes direction.
I have not owned one though, so I am only speaking from the experience of other people's reviews.
The rane performer jog wheels do not do this due to the design.
You should have done a comparison on the platter connection types too. I think the magnets on the rane are way better than the clips on the rev.
It's negligible. They both do the job.
Great review can wait to get the rane
I feel like dj tech is a bit behind. What I want is standalone motorised and the tech to do this was there 5 years ago. Also I tried to get the Rane Performer in the UK on 0% apr credit and was denied twice so I just gave up. Hard saving for that will take me about 15 months, by which time something new will be out I'm sure. Finally, I think rev7 has the huge advantage of working with both Serato and Rekordbox which is important to some people, but ultimately the build quality on the Rane seems better 😀
that's no tie Terry - being too liberal !! Rane wins hands down - but I gotcha they both can get the job done just like how I used to use a Gemini mixer and then upgraded to a 54.
I was waiting for a unit like the Rane Performer to come out after my NS7ii died, and wasn't happy with getting the Rev7 since it wasn't built natively with stems, so I bought the Inpulse T7, but now that I've been spoiled by an 11lbs controller, it's going to hurt going back up to a 28lbser. I'm hoping they will come up with an upgrade to the Rane One, I really don't think I'll use the stem features on the performer and I just want something that's more compact, lighter and streamlined, like the T7.
Good review! Ultimately it's what fits that DJ the best, but it's cool that you showed the side by side pros and cons of both units.
I don’t tell people what works best for them. They are free to buy whatever they want with absolutely no judgement from me.
If all I want is GOOD feeling controller vinyl feel
Ia the Rane one is just as good?
Or does the performer win, no contest?
Like is the feel day amd night?...
trying to figure out an easy BBQ party set up, and I have only used 1200s my entire career(Rane 62 mixer since 2013)
100! My buddy had to borrow my Rane 1 for 4 months because his Rev 7 just would not talk to Serato DJ Pro. Like wtf?? Lol
Nice battle and great review. 👍👍
Logo vs functionality of browsing your next track? HAHAHAHAHAHA! No... just no.
There’s literally a computer in front of you.
@@ClevelandTerryFACTS! They rather look at a 2" screen vs 13"😂😂.
Thanks for video!!!❤
Rev7 have one important thing for me. It’s rekordbox compatibility!
I have both units and as soon as i brought Rane Performer in the same room as Rev 7 well.... Rev 7 immediately bent over for Daddy Rane!
Anyway, the Rane Performer will be outdated when the Performax XZY will be out and another comparison between that and something else. Do we realize the lost brain time in thinking which controller should we get or controller vs 2 CDJ / Denon + mixer or turntables or this or that. And THAT, knowing that we already have a great gear setup and we look for better that does more and sorry but who is going deeply in everything that a Rane Performer propose ? That is too many functions for 90% of DJ’s.
When the Rane One came out, I’ve tested and bought it and love it because it’s kinda « back to basics ».
Yes, this Rane Performer is dope and for someone that needs to change, because it’s setup doesn’t fit his/her needs, then great. But for the vast majority of us, it’s another big €€. I’ll change, perhaps, when they will make it standalone
Speaking of longevity I ran the NS7 iii since 2015 nothing came close and the Rane 1 was just comparable. I had to buy a Rane 4 because Numark wouldn’t update the drivers to windows 11. I was the first in Michigan to get a Performer now it’s longevity will WAY OUT LIVE that Rev 7. It will be the new standard for other companies to live up to. It turns you into a musical magician. RIP Rev 7. Not knocking you guys that own one, to each his own.
Battle style look for me 💯
Hey love your programs ..do you have any videos on sound quality between the different models of flagship pioneers..or pioneers vs rane ?
Great review fam. I still run my ol trusty 4 channel Denon MC7000 and have been wanting moving platters and dedicated stem controls for a while. I almost bought the Hercules T7 when it came out but now, I'm so happy I waited!! The RANE PERFORMER is just what the doctor ordered!!
They are two very different controllers and Rane the material is more resistant. The sound card is 32-bit and that of the REV 7 is 24-bit and you can tell the difference. They don't compete between them and Rane Performer is far above all the controllers. Please let me know when you find the STEM-SPLIT in the REV 7.
Two different style controllers but REV 7 is great!!! The smaller profile just kills it for me when traveling. I personally don't need 4 channels and I love the battle mixer feel and where the pads are. Its quicker to navigate Stems with just the kill buttons than additional steps on the Performer. The only thing that kills it with the Performer is being able to have a non proprietary power cord and the bigger jog wheels.
Great review of both products. Sorry you had to record twice.
I do think the Rane should've gotten a higher score than the Rev on Displays, even if it currently can't display logos. The versatility of the Performer should put it above. Also something worth noting is the Performer is going to be the better controller for those using virtual DJ. Especially with Stems.
Do you reckon that Rane will make this compatible with Rekordbox?
Kinda like Pioneer did with the Rev7 eventually?
Love your breakdown dude :)
Can you do a video like you did for the DDJ REV 7 where you access the channel faders? Rumor has it that on the Performer you can access the faders from the top of the controller like you can on the Rane 72 mixer? I'm now hearing from a few Performer users that you cannot access the faders and that they aren't user replaceable?
Great Review. Owned Rane 70, S11 and Rev 7 and nothing sounds as good as the 70... Rane just sounds better. Pioneer still sounds great, just not the Rane...
Ever think of doing a rewind. See how the Numark NS7iii stacks up against the new ones. I bet it would still do very well. I consider it the one all others are judged against.
Love how you said the effects we use lol. Much as I love that pitch down effect on rev 7. I used it when I first got it. And went back to echo out. Out effects barely use. Especially with stems
@clevland my sound drop out out on my Rane 4 but it's fine on my pioneer sx3
Great content love it ❤! Question How did you hook up both controllers using the same system ? Question 2 how would I hook up two controllers and two computers to the same Sound system?
I had two computers. Going through a separate mixer for both.
@@ClevelandTerry Thank you for getting back to me I appreciate it . I know this is a bit much but is there away you can draw up a schematic or make a vlog about to do or do you know another vlog that has all read done it and has it on there channel with the equipment that they use and cables need to hook all this up ? Thank you 🙏🏾
It's good that you measure the controllers . I really thought the pioneer rev 1 was really small ,until I got the rev 1 it wasn't that bad although still easy to carry around.
Moving on to the rane performer ,it's an amazing controller to have .the display screens are bigger and 4 channels. Also dedicated stems buttons
My first time watching and listening to your video. Your video was very informative. Thanks for the info. I'm going with the performer.
The Rev7 looks more beautiful, but the Rane is better too used.
Great review! What is the white skin you have on your Rev 7? Is that 12 inch skins? Would like to get a skin for that middle section for my Rev 7 that is becoming tattered and fading out around the crossfader area in the future.
What would your take for a 2 channel set up between a REV 7 and a S7 or S11 w/ 2- Rane MK2? Not as portable and no stems on the S7 or S9. What would you go for? I do alot of bar gigs if that helps you out. Thanks Terry!
Cleveland, you give great caparisons.
I can't find this info at all, anywhere. Does the Performer have any way of using FLIP??
Once again, a very thorough review by CT! Both controllers are super-solid and you really cannot go wrong with either... I think it comes down to which features and/or layout suits you best.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome aka G.A.S. is a real thing. I saw it in the DSM-5😂
I have the Rane One for the past 3 years. And even on the performer i ear that the music have less energy.
I remember going after a dj that uses traktor. We had the same volume peak wise. But the tone of the rane had less energy.
Even on this video i can ear it.
It’s a weird thing.
Loving the vid so far, just wanted to comment before I forget. You can switch the REV7 to mono in the utility menu on on the controller itself. Having a dedicated switch is nice though.
First one ☝🏾
Disappointed about the Reverb effect on the Rane. It was a big difference compared to the Rev-7.
Im getting the Performer. Glad i waited to get a controller. Might try the hybrid turntables later. I came up on turntables.
So I have the rev7 and the Rane performer… I agree on a lot of the things you said in the video… thanks for making it.. I been using the rane for 3 days and I can’t get past the work flow of the buttons not being Battle style… that’s more of my style but every thing else is great on both controllers… I think I may stick with the rev7
As you say it's all about preference and although minor I love that you can browse the library on the jog screens of the Rane. Less looking at the computer screen = better
Nice! If I were to buy one now, I would get the Rev 7...The performer is too new for me to trust it. Thanks
I expect pioneer DJ to top the RANE Performer with a newer model! The battle never ends!
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You can have cues and stems available at the same time on the rane four by holding the hot cue button and hitting the stem button while holding. That will split the pads where cues are on the top 4 pads and stems on the bottom 4. Is that not available anymore? You mentioned you wanted the stem pads available without pressing two things
Thx CT. Its always pleasure hearing your thoughts. The echo effects on mic was a good findings as the bpm increase will affect the echo, and never knew Performer got echo also on its mic. 2nd good finding thru ur video.. Its ice on a cake u got there. Hot pad in the middle also a good point, Rev 7 take the cake on it. Previously Rev 7 and Rane One on the ring, but its an honour to Rev 7, when most people compare Rev 7 with the Performer now, little discredit to Rane one actually..haha..anyway..Kudos to this video brotha, its good info. cheers. Take care.Im gonna go with my Rane one as for now. hahaha😆😆😆👍
The REV-7 & Performer are 2 completely different controllers. Dont let the motorised jog wheels trick you.
The REV-7 is a battle styled layout and the Performer is a wannabe FLX-10 for club djs who also plan on doing in clubs using in house equipment which is always pioneer.
If you're a battle DJ and dont care about playing in clubs using club gear get the REV-7. However, if you are planning on playing in clubs and don't care about battling get the FLX-10 or the Performer.
I’m gonna have to disagree with you on this one.
Whats the difference between 2 and a 4 channel mixer.channel wise.let say if in case the 2 channels or at least of the asigned channels on the rane gone bad,can u asign another channel.where as the rev 7 has only 2.if in case obe gone bad,what do you do.are they replacable.