Rane Performer Review - Did this just KILL the Rane Four?
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Rane's Performer - probably the worst-kept secret in the history of DJ controller launches - is officially available. But is it a meaningful leap over its close cousin, the Rane Four? In this review, we look at the new FX, the platters and displays, and the new faders, to help you decide for yourself.
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0:00 Intro
1:21 Who's this for?
1:37 Layout & build
2:06 Rear panel
2:42 The big differences?
2:57 Motorised platters
6:40 Effects & faders
11:10 Should you buy it?
12:21 DJ gear alternatives
15:47 The BIGGEST decision..
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⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡
0:00 Intro
1:21 Who's this for?
1:37 Layout & build
2:06 Rear panel
2:42 The big differences?
2:57 Motorised platters
6:40 Effects & faders
11:10 Should you buy it?
12:21 DJ gear alternatives
15:47 The BIGGEST decision..
Full written Rane Performer review: www.digitaldjtips.com/reviews/rane-performer-controller/
Phil you are a true grafter. You produce the most detailed reviews bar none. Thank you.
Getting this setup! Dream come true. Thanks for the dope review per usual!
Any time!
RIP Rane One & Four 🌹
😂😂 my rane 4 good I ain't upgrading
I love your video previews the most caus they are very well detailed.
Glad you like them!
Thank you for the great video, Phil!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I agree, that myself being a scratch dj, the metal jog wheels are nice, but most scratch djs prefer a battle style layout. My feeling is the pad and pitch placement on the rev 7 is much better, but the 4 channels, effects and stem features on the Performer are great. I hate reaching over performance pads to scratch on most controllers.
We are understanding this as more an open format/performance controller than a straight-up scratch unit.
Just don't hit the performance pads.... 😂 I used to have those issues, too.
awesome review. thx!
You're welcome
Great review 👌👍
Glad you liked it
Awesome, I might sell rane one and get it
Make this a standalone with all this included AND the Prime 4+ wifi, streaming, actual 4 channels, 10in muti-touch screen and etc-etc features then I'll be in.... ❤❤❤.
Until then, it's Prime 4+ for me.
@@Positive_Tea the Prime 4+ is only $200 more. And that's if you're buying from a store like Sweetwater, Guitar Center, etc. And if someone is buying from there instead of a place that charges less, that's on them.
@@JewelzFinazzo oopsie I had the price of the Performer way off lol I thought it was cheaper. It’s $2k you’re right. If Denon made a new stand-alone but with their SC6000M spinning platters that would be insane! Btw does anyone actually have the SC6000Ms?
Lots wanting a standalone motorised unit...
Same here. Prime 4 + is the coolest piece of gear I’ve used maybe since the early days of the cdjs 1000. GC also hooked it up with a LC6000 for free. Love spinning without finally staring at a laptop.
@Positive_Tea i have 2 sc6000m's I use them with an x1850, s11, amd sometimes my rane 72mk2. The s11 is sooo sweet with them.
Thanks for the video Phil! Well, I’m interested in getting it that way I can also connect my DZ1200’s to 3&4 and have 4 spinning decks!!! Let’s see how it looks and how they would work together.
You could indeed
Amazing controller! That being said, I have no issues whatsoever with using the Pioneer FLX10 with Serato.
That’s cool. Glad you’re enjoying it.
Awesome, I will update my rane one
Have fun!
I got my ran Four less that 2 months ago and now they come out with this with motorized jog wheels??? DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!
Same as me but with a Rane One. I think I'll have to flog my Rane One and get this thing of beauty.
They are for different types of DJs in our view. Don't think motorised platters are necessarily superior.
I got mine almost a year now think am gonna sell it and get this bad boy
I wouldn't worry. The Rane Four still has the new functions on the EQ with the latest updates. Individual EQ knobs now control Stems. So you have full analogue control using the EQ knobs from value 1-127 (zero to max) on Stems. The new Choppa effect is now on the Four as well. So that leaves the motorised jogs, enhanced displays and enhanced sliders and a couple more FX.
I mean, how many FX do you really use? I use stutter, echo, echo out, filter, filter roll and that's basically it. All on the Four.
I don't think I'd use the new slider FX. Already got enough going on!
Unless you are a professional (I'm not) I really don't think this someone you necessarily need (but you might want - that's another story). Another plus, the Four is lighter. And no motorised jogs means less to go wrong as well.
I'm an NS7II user, so I gotta get this new rane performer! Great Video, Thanks 😊
I AM AN NS7II USER TOO! I think today might be the best day ever, but the only thing I am worried about is having multiple FX's on at once. That top row of FX with individual FX parameters was quite nice.
@@officialdjdetox i have a four, you can have only one at a time. Or one pad fx + filter fx.
I'm a NS7III user and I don't see much incentives to upgrade to this, specially this being heavier than the NS7III.
@@iamdjmus You can only stay on Windows 10 for so long. Numark ditched updating the drivers for mine so it's TOUGH. I love my NS7ii but the tech is getting old even though I have stems. I also have a fader showing signs of ghosting. I will keep mine for now, but I am very close to upgrading.
@@fredsouza9088 I will miss three FX's on at the same time, but two is more than sufficient enough. I am very close to upgrading. If my CH fader continues ghosting after I spray some contact cleaner I will consider the upgrade.
Great review! Does it have auto bpm detection for turntables that are connected? thanks
No
I really wish Rane would finally listen to the community and make a Stand-alone controller for scratch DJs, since Engine DJ is a inMusic product too 😓
Don't really get the allure of stand alone controllers imo lol. I like having my laptop to browse my library faster when mixing tbvh
@@delanocallender6265 For gigs its heaven, i turn up with a Prime 2 and Bose S1 pro, i run the Bose off battery so i only have 3 XLR cables and a single power cable to plug in to get going.
you =/= others
@@BlueHawk80 I know. Some will like it , some not. That how products work. But I discussed that topic enough to know, that I‘m not the only one , who would appreciated a motorized combination from the Rane Four and Prime 4+
Well stand alone could be done just look at a mpc live one unit Can do pretty much everything a daw can
The only thing that I found was innovative was the ability to have the library view on the Jog wheel displays,,
I have a Rane One and it’s midi mapped to my liking including the ability to switch from Traditional eq to Stems Eq at a touch of a button all running through my IPad Air on Algoriddim DJ software.
I really don’t use any effect other than Echo and the odd Filter so all those effects (some of which didn’t sound too nice) are wasted for me,, Not to say it’s not suited for others of course..
I agree with you that a good controller should last you over 6-7 years.
Thanks for the review though Phil,, Always as informative as ever
You're welcome!
Awesome! Whats the track playing btw?
Just one of our in-house ones from Mastermix (see the link in the description).
Hi Phil, great review! Maybe i missed it, but I don't think I heard you say anything about the weight. I was reading up on the weight and saw that its 28lbs which is a bit heavy, especially when you add it to a case. That might be a deal breaker for me, especially since I already have the Rane 4
It’s in the written review and yes, it’s very heavy as all these controllers are with built-in motorised platters
A question I have after watching this review and your review of the Four (though maybe I just missed the answer): Are the channel FX on the Performer limited in the way the Four’s are? Specifically what you referred to around the 7 : 40 mark in your Four review. Are they controlling Serato FX? Can you only use filter on decks 3 & 4 when not plugged into a laptop?
Always appreciate your reviews!! Thank you!
They are hardware effects so can work with any input
The sine and sawtooth FX are on my Rane Seventy A-Trak edition.
Yes, they've all been lifted from the Seventy
Can you assign a transform (kill switch) effect on a key on the computer keyboard or on the rane?
You can set the paddle to mute
NS7 users have been waiting for this day. I am hoping my work-flow won't change too much if I get this though. The layout is soooooo different than NS7.
Yes, the Rane One is much closer
How do you switch from Deck 1 to Deck 3 for the moving platter?
Press the Layer button
Is the display the same size as the rane four ones? I think Rane four has 2" displays. Just got a Rane Four a week ago to pair with a Rane 12 and PLX1000 and love the setup. One of my gripes is the lack of customization of the display layout. You can only change time elapsed and remove needle marker. I would like more layout options. Hope they release a new firmware to enable more
Exactly the same except the jogwheel ones
For use with VirtualDJ which would you recommend? Are there significant differences?
This doesn’t yet work with that software, but when it does, it’s likely to be good implementation
This controller with virtualdj EZremix eq ch 3/4 for always available stems control for ch 1/2 is the actual best controller IMO. BUT, did they loosen the channel faders?
oh Tension adjust . nice
Yes, exactly. big improvement
I got motorized platters in the Rane one so the big decision for me is going from a 2 channel controller to a 4 channel controller. I just think I’ll be able to get more out of it on 4 decks
Indeed, that is your choice!
Great review, but I have to disagree with you on one thing, the use of the stem feature is implemented better and easier to pull off on the Rane than the flx10.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I was talking specifically about the stems FX feature
YES PHIL! Would love to hear what in your opinion the ultimate controller would be for a washed out has been ex DJ teaching! his son how to mix! The best controller in your opinion! Asking for a friend
Mixstream Pro
You are old vinyl DJ, whats your take on this smaller moving platters compared to the ”real sized” like on Rane12 or Crss12? If it’s not the same feeling then you might aswell try to learn use non-moving platters?
But I really feel uncomfortable on plain controllers atm compared to my 12” moving platter. But since working with vinyl and not working between 1995-2020 that are perhaps easy to understand. But I’m afraid small wheels will feel uncomfortable aswell?
You'd get used to small wheels in about 5 seconds, trust me
I was waiting for this but hope Numark "wakes up" and makes an NS7 4 ... Helloooo are you still making controllers?
Same family of companies, so we doubt that will happen (Rane is the brand for that now).
Nice but I'll stick to my Rev 7..thanks for the review and have fun with the new Perfourmer everyone!
I think if it was standalone with usb computer connection to a serato,vdj then it would be a buy for me me. Ima ns7ii user and i would prefer motorized platters with a screen like the prime 4
Bizarrely, the better the in-screen jogs etc get, the more a laptop feels like a liability!
I know this is a pie-in-the-sky dream, but it would be nice if they would release a retrofit kit for us techy folks who already have the Rane Four. (I know, I know, that would cut down on profit margins...) Still... I already have moving platters on the 12's so no go for me just for moving platters (unless my Four takes a dump post-warranty).
I think that would be more complex than you imagine, and it definitely won't happen!
lol can we just get the effects and decks in a rane one mkii ? No need for 4 decks over here.
Four decks does always look strange with motorised platters for some reason!
This song is like a gentle breeze on a hot summer day."
Good morning all
Morning John!
I have no use for motorized platters so my current four is just fine, but this is a really big deal for those who do want that.
Exactly, it gives another option
Yes my rane 4 is just fine no need for thus one ,only big deal is the motorized platters ,I got my 2 technics 1200 with my djms7 so am good
Is there a “Talk Over” button the Rane One doesn’t have one?
Good point, don't recall seeing one may be wrong though
Imagine this controller with usb in for flash drives and ssd built in serato no laptop needed. Also maybe an updated screen layout similar to a ns7 3
We identified this too - once controller get to this level of sophistication, people kind-of expect them to not need a laptop!
I wish it worked in RB like the 7
Yes, sadly won't happen due to the brand.
Rane 🔥
I want a controller that will get me used to pioneer mixers and CDJs in clubs as I play house and techno as i've only really used 1210s and xone mixers. This would indicate I should get an FLX10 but I really want great stems and minimal beatgrid prep - rekordbox is just so bad at stems and beatgrids. Djay pro is so much better - stems sound great and I never have to beatgrid. Is serato very close to DJ pro in these areas? I feel stuck with pioneer's lame software thanks to their monopoly in clubs. How long can the industry standard remain the worst option?
No software is perfect, no hardware is perfect. Get what's closest and work around the rest.
Phil, Can you Just ask Them why they are not releasing a stand alone motorized controller? At Some point it gets frustrating with the games they are playing, given that so many people are asking for it.
They all know people want this, so it will come at some point
I never liked the Rev 7 layout ...to be honest i prefer the rane 4 to the rane performer its lighter can b,e less of tscchie issues with the platters
Another grail of digital turntablism since NS7 series.
Numark set the bar. NS7 3 2 1 IS LEGENDARY!
Agreed, same company of course
Can it be used with virtual dj
not yet I don't think but that will be possible soon enough, 100%
👍👍👍👍👍
.......still waiting on Pioneer to release a proper Spinning Platers unit for Rekordbox already..
x2 CRX12's and a S7 double the price of this and half the features.
Rev7 kinda shoe horned Rekordbox to work with it but similar price with x2 less Decks and less features.
Don't get me started on their Stems as well LOL.
Agree, stems are best left!
W A N T !!!!!
This killed everything
Pioneer: "dammmmm this rane fellow keep stealing my style".
Rane: "i did not steal your style. i just innovate things".
Denon Dj. ''sheeet i think i gotta come out with something like that".
Hercules: "ha ha ha... i got one like this but way cheaper than ya'lls".
😀
I was hoping it would be standalone.
An awful lot of people asking exactly this
If it were stand-alone (no laptop), it would be perfect. I think I'll wait.
So many people saying this!
Its cool and all but the engineers have to step up their game and stop with the same layout, all though the magnic vinyle is a new tech in platter control, but much of the same thing dont get me wrong in music in my opinion is a TANK in dj hardware but i think its time we see something that is not the the same layout these units are very exspense for pretty much the same stuff you said it a unit that is truly in all one where serato is still the software but integrated into the unit but tablet form were you can remove the tablet and use it for prep mode exct...again hats off to rane for there bulid quality and hearing what dj want
This is to be fair a variation on an existing unit, deliberately. We have to also ask: How much does DJ gear really need to change? Do saxophones, drums and guitars change too much every year? Arguably these things are just tools, really.
Well…this maybe something like I’d consider replacing my 1210’s for….maybe….
big decisions!
Every DJ I've heard from that got rid of their 1200s or 1210s seems to eventually come to regret it
@@chuckmakesit Yeah that’s where I keep coming back to as well, maybe I’ll just try phase DJ as a happy medium.
It’s the same except for spinning jogs
Not quite, but more or less - see the video
As someone who likes to be up to date with my Controllers I am Absolutely pissed!!! I Rane should offer all those who went out and purchased the Rane 4 a huge discount on purchasing the Performer they mugged us off what was the point of the Rane 4 release Fvck Rane !!!
I agree with you as a rane 4 owner
This controller is not better, it's just a motorised variant. As said in the video, not everyone wants that (me included, actually).
@digitaldjtips I understand not everybody would want the motorised variant. But given the choice, I would have gone for the motorised platter. The release of the Performer is so close on the heels of the Rane 4 that they must have had both variants in the lab at the same time surely they
could have waited and released them both together, thus giving the option to Djs to choose their preference. But hey, ho, what do I know !!!
Sure after countless issues with the Rane 4 with so many of us They finally make another unit so I bet the Rane 4 will be discontinued
Doubt that, as many don't want motorised platters
Motors are a pain in the butt😂
Blame it on the Rane!
Rev 7 with a bow tie.
Ha!
still prefer the Pioneer rev7 tbf
Pioneer has 48HRs to respond ! 😮💨
Their only hope is an XR mk2
@@anonymous_friendI may be one of few but I’m hoping that make a SRT2000 that fixes all the flaws in the FLX-10 and USB-C connectivity that support 100W PD . Give us more LCD options like the Rev7 ;That would be a SOLID unit. But a man can only dream lol
🤔I don’t scratch but i own the Rane four , 🤔do i really need that?🤷🏾♂️
The Performer? No
@@digitaldjtips am still thinking about it
The front of this controller is 1:1 like ns7II
Same parent company...
I guess Im the only one that will not buy these controllers with those small 7" platters... I hated DJing with 45s and these give me flashbacks...lol.
You should try them first
How much??
Watch the video
2000.00 usd
soon we will see on these dj controllers a way to change the voice of the original artist with that of another artist. artificial intelligence will be present, you will be able to make so many changes to a song that in a few years no one will know what the original sounds like
I think you're right - one of the first applications could be instantly "cleaning up" profanities in tracks so you don't need to get special "clean" versions
So 28lbs without a case?
Yes
Filters sound computerized and unlike Audio Analog.
I would never buy a unit like that! Why?!... Cause the deckplates are to high placed for scratching and juggling, they should place the buttons above the plates and the plates should be alined with the crossfader.
It's always a trade-off when you combine a busy mixer with scratch features. Agreed.
The answer is no.
To many buttons. To far from 2 turntables a mixer and mic. And the price😅😂.
Rane One for that
Rev 5 alone is More Better than this.💯
Different type of controller in many ways
They took too long to release it. The hype has since died … the wow effect is gone.
I really hope Pioneer has a better one up their sleeves !
No this will fly off shelves
@@chadnliz2k11$1,999 I can get it right now but as soon as I get some of this debt off me I’m definitely getting one!
To be fair, these are tools to DJ on, they shouldn't be seen as disposable, hype items. One of these could last you 6-7 years or longer (and indeed should).
Ummmmm for you, maybe
OH NO! I just order the Rev7 🫣
They're quite different in many ways
@@digitaldjtips tbh! Is the best controller’s Rane has ever made yet