He almost kills a woman at 16 out of the blue and was released at 18 since the system thinks that at 18 all bad traits of a person just disappears. Absolutely ridiculous!
That's not what the system thinks. The juvenile system is different than the adult system and when you're in the juvenile system they have to release you at 18 when you become an adult. The two rarely transfer over. Nobody in the juvenile system believed that bad traits just disappeared. It's best to use common sense when considering such matters.
@@zmoore5555 In some states they can hold you until you are 25 for violent crimes. Oregon, Washington since 2018 or so, California, Utah since around 2020, and a couple other states have laws like that. Tennessee is considering a blended sentencing law that would allow people to remain in the system until they turn 25 and then the court would be able to decide on wether they should be sent to the adult system and sentenced as an adult or released. Having a law like that would have helped in this case since as he needed more than 2 years.
@@zmoore5555You seem triggered for no reason and yet you didn't answer the question of why. Why juveniles are released at 18 regardless of their scary crime like this guy did is the question. The system is clearly not working since juveniles are being released and continue their crime. Why is releasing at 18 a must? Does the system believe they stop committing crimes after their 18th birthday? Why don’t they transfer them to the adult facility?
@@sandrasantamarina88 I understand that, but the point is that someone who does this, he is already a serial killer, no matter what his age. And his diary confirms that. This was not an accident, or I'm sorry, I just made a mistake.
i have always been amazed at some of the things Juveniles can get away with. and also there are A LOT of people in our society that have bleeding hearts and are always willing to make excuses for people.
I can't say much without invading her privacy, but I actually knew his wife personally for many years. I have heard a lot of undisclosed information straight from her mouth and I feel a duty to defend her in this situation. To start with why she didn't speak up, she actually did. They moved around a few places and she actually made some reports over the years, but none were taken seriously. The confession he made about Brandi was made to her almost 15 years after she was killed and she had genuinely thought he was making up a story. He had done it repeatedly over the years. She is not "special" as some of you rudely asumed. You don't hear it here, but you can find it in some other podcasts about the show: he tortured her. Viciously. Needles, knives, and so much more. All of the horrible torture gave her a speech impediment from the scarring. She did not leave her daughter anywhere. When they got a divorce she was unable to make enough money to maintain custody. She was working multiple jobs, but because she had been a stay at home wife and mom for the entire marraige, she had no work experience. The jobs she got were all entry level and the courts didn't think it was a suitable home for the child due to the low income and "absent a lot" mom. She tried desperately to get her back from her ex husband but was stonewalled by the courts until the whole serial killer thing came to light. She has spent every single year since then desperately attempting to help her daughter, even going so far as to go without food to pay for her daughter's therapy. (I feel I should note here, she had no reason to believe he was doing anything to their daughter. In fact he doted on her. She believed that her daughter was safe in the home and would never have stayed if she had believed she was in danger. Her first hints that something was off was after the divorce, once she lost custody.) To the people who are blaming her or accusing her of not preventing this, please take a step back and remember you do not have all the information in this case. The media consistantly portrays her as a conspirator because it makes for good television. You notice how none of the victim's families have blamed her? It's because they were there to hear her whole testimony. You were not. He had her under his thumb for years. He used threats on her life to keep her from escaping and tortured her for much of their marraige. Just because she's alive, doesn't mean she isn't a victim. She is a wonderful and strong woman who has endured more than you could ever know. Please be kind. She reads your comments. (Edited for typos and clarity) I would also like to add since a lot of the nay-sayers about her seem to think she wasn't under duress during the marriage: He used her as a stopwall for his behaviors. He blamed her for his actions and told her it was her fault that he had these horrible thoughts and feelings about women. He told her that if she didn't allow him to torture her that he would do it to other women and that would be her fault. She was totally isolated and was actually trying to prevent him from hurting others by staying. She was not aware that he was hurting other women already.
Thank you for sharing this. That’s horrible. What she went through is heartbreaking. I’m so sorry. I hope her and her daughter are getting the help they need. The fact that they let him back on the streets after his first victim at 16 is scary, especially in light of what the mother showed law enforcement. Disgusting. I wish your friend the best.
People “forget” we are watching a TV show. Chopped up+ cut down for views and speculation. Throwing shade + mystery encourages viewers to “tune in “ next week. That’s ok. It’s Telly. But unfortunately people take away this content as be all + end all fact. Appreciate your comment. Hope lots of viewers READ it
I recently watched famous castles on Netflix. The barbaric forms of early torture and execution behind castle walls were difficult to listen to so I muted. But for the monster that savagely took the lives of these innocent victims, I would make an exception.
Stabbing a woman at 16, then again? Caught 2xs yet still got out. Anyone that wld of just dug deep into his mind wld have known. Did he just get sentenced then released w/o any Dr. Speaking to him? All the signs were handed to these judges yet they'll send a drug dealer to prison for 40yrs! Selling Marijuana... The system is set up by crooked politicians, pedif. & worse. Our system always allows the criminals to go free it's backwards. We have got to start making changes. This man shld never have gotten this far in life. Pray for his daughter that he had no right having. 🙏
Yeh, they were shocked to learn he was the killer despite knowing he had the right surname (Miller) & that he had fantasised about kidnapping & decapitating women.
‘Nooo0O0oooooo!! It can’t possibly be our hometown hero, Phoenix’s beloved Zombie Hunter!! Why, he’s just another wholesome family man who cosplays as a bombastic gun-toting Good Guy™ while driving a bloody Crown Vic and hunting the pre-deaded undead - he’s almost like one of us!’
Yep. He was a chronic, severe threat to women, and it was fitting to see multiple women (the judge, prosecutor, ex-wife, his living victims, etc.) make sure he couldn't harm any others.
i still cant imagine, he has a daughter which is always with him and have thought, if you have a child, you have a good soul (thinking he wont do such crimes because he wont for sure imagine that it will happened the same with his own daughter) but my speculations was wrong, so the daughter was just his props for his cimes enable people will not suspect him as the murderer. How sad especially to the daughter
@@BFdEutschLaNdI watched numerous crime reports it's hard to watch those but I learn a Lot from them. A man who lives with his teen daughter is highly likely to sexually abuse her.
The wife is the hero of this story for agreeing to testify against that sadistic POS. Doing so had to be incredibly frightening for her and I commend her courage. I hope she and her daughter are able to heal and move forward.
And nvr reported to police that he murdered and dismembered a child at that! Why would you not say something? And then you let your child live with that monster? I can have some compassion for what she endured but it is a HUGE step to call her a hero. Had she reported what he did to that poor child, those women might be alive today. Not to mention, had they nvr found the man, he'd still be walking the streets killing people. She knew he was a murderer and did nothing. She pretty much had to testify. That's no hero.
because these killers are cowards, they only target people they think are weaker than them and when faced with actual consequences become like children
Many kids who were disciplined like that are fine or seem to be fine, but some are not. Being abused and/or beaten can trigger mental illness (often those parents are mentally ill themselves) and sadly, sometimes mental illness can lead to violent crimes. Parents can cause a lot of damage to their children. That being said, I don't think by any means that this should be counted as an excuse - I just wanted to point out cause and effect.
@@MrGrumpyGillsthe vast majority of people who are abused don’t go on to commit murders though. Upbringing affects one’s mentality but free will still exists and he had the ability to choose not to commit the heinous crimes he did.
It doesn't take the majority to commit insane crimes due to a poor upbringing. It just takes a few for us to realize that the abuse we put on children, as adults, can cause some real damage to certain kids. We act as though these shouldn't be excuses, but when a kid commits horrible crimes we all say "where were the parents?" And as soon as those f*cked up kids become adults, we forget all about the horrible upbringing. It's an interesting thing we do as humans.
I'm bipolar and I refuse to let my situation rule me, I was told from a very long time ago that I'm accountable by my dad and what I do is going to be my punishment, I've had my tail tied in knot's and I wear it now as a fashion statement, besides I'm a huge fan of Susan B Anthony, when she was arrested for trying to vote, she was going to be let go because she was a woman and she said I don't want special treatment I want to be treated as a equal. I feel the same way now playing the victim wears out so fast.
Hats of to the genealogist who diligently pulled this off and somehow got to the bottom of the case , its indescribable how theese cases perpetuate for a long time but thier souls never go to waste , may God bring solace to the family of the victims. 🙏😔
None of us are safe from Creepers, Danger and Monsters. Rest in Forever Peace, Angela and Melanie. I'm sorry their loved ones have to go through their lives missing them.
Wow amazing how”some” people are allowed to get away with crimes for so long. While others are vilified for just existing. Aint no way he only had 2 or 3 victims.
Allowed? They didn’t have his DNA on any database. You expect miracles from police officers with a present-day caseload, no cold case detectives & no way of zeroing in on the suspect.
He wasn’t allowed to get away with it! If the state has enough to press charges they will! They didn’t have his DNA matched bc they had to get his DNA from the glass!
He didn't but they were the only ones they could prove. If you read about the whole thing LE stated that there were multiple bodies along the canal but they could never tie them to him.
Good to know that modern DNA analysis can compensate for shoddy police work: the guy was already on the suspect list and nobody cared to find the similarities between the murders and his prior activity.
The thing is, most detectives are probably lazy "direct deposit" government employees who phone it in and do the bare minimum. It's so rare in any field to find motivated people who actually care about their work......
He was a juvenile with his first attack. LE probably never looked into a juvenile for the crimes and I don’t know if they are linked with adult crimes so it probably wasn’t as easy to put together.
@reprovedcandy Very true .Not all not some .Just more then we can think of or imagine. SO MANY REASONS TO CLIMB THE RANKS OF DETECTIVE OTHER THAN WHAT THEIR TITLE ON PAPER SAYS .
Yes, abuse can cause mental illness and violent behaviour. However I don't buy the defendant's claims what his mother allegedly did to him, I think he made that up to make his insanity plea sound believable - he couldn't deny being the killer after all, since his DNA was on the victims. Also, since the mother is already dead she can't defend herself from these claims anymore.
Exactly! And he likely never forgave her for not welcoming him back into her home after finding his sick and disturbing note about his plans to perpetrate evil vileness against women 😮
What a sick evil monster blaming his childhood trauma for killing those girls and what is sicker is his defence lawyer rubbing his back when he was sentenced to death.
So sickening to see this evil serial killer blaming it all on his "childhood trauma." And it is more sickening to see psychologists are behind all these blame games, creating all kinds of intellectual-sounding names for the crime. Get real. What he did was evil and he needs to get punished for it.
I disagree. Defining a human act as "evil" oversimplifes the complex factors that contribute to criminal behavior. By exploring the psychological and environmental conditions that lead to such acts, psychologists aim to understand and address the root causes rather than labeling individuals as inherently "evil." This approach allows for a more comprehensive understanding of human behavior and the potential for prevention and intervention, rather than simply passing judgment. 😊
@@SalznPfeffer658 The reality is that humans have biases and often adopt one narrative that wants nothing to do with why someone committed the crime or what led them to become a serial killer. Most often the statements are: Ooh well many people get abused as children and they don’t become serial killers. While that is true, it gives no room to accept that many serial killers have had extremely complex traumas, and many have also started taking drugs and alcohol, which further deteriorated their mind and ability to control their behavior, emotions and responses towards others. Not everyone becomes a serial killer, but not everyone has the biological ( genetic), and environmental conditions to bring about their disturbing behaviors. The human animal is hard to fathom., it’s quite complex.
I'd like to second the crap outta both of these responses above. It's high time we start understanding the criminal behaviors that inflict longterm/irrefutable damage upon innocent mbrs of society. It is absolutely true, traumas are different and they impact individuals differently. Just bc something falls under the same category, in this instance it's child abuse, doesn't mean they are the same. Before folks lose their cool let me be clear, this does NOT in turn excuse such behavior. Not even remotely. It's simply a fact that NEEDS to be recognized, that is all. This "lock them up and throw away the key" mentality is not enough to deter such "evil" behavior. It doesn't and shouldn't stop when that cell door closes. We NEED to make the effort to understand more. We cannot begin to come up with preventative measures towards something that we don't better understand. Or rather, refuse to better understand. With knowledge comes power, that is a basic level fact. Ignorance and stubbornness is only perpetuating these unrelenting problems. We can and SHOULD do better for ourselves and each other.
@@nuckinfuts7610while i agree with the comments above like you, to a certain extent. once these horrific crimes have been committed and lives have been taken and the numerous lives that have been affected by these crimes, if not lock up the individuals who committed these crimes and throw away the key, what's your solution? And further more,you can't tell me a child born in a violent, abusive non loving environment is not more likely to become a violent adult. If that's all they have ever been taught how do they know any other way be?
@@bbacc929 I NEVER said "not lock the individuals up". Literally never. How did you manage to misinterpret it that way? I said it doesn't stop with locking them up and throwing away the key. Of course the punishment should still exist. Smh I couldn't have been more clear about this. Some people are in such a rush to be right they refuse to correctly read simple facts.
It's scary that a detective can see this man's past and see his hand written notes of horrendous things he wants to do to women and he's just like "what? Nah not this guy. He was so meek around me." I'm sure this kind of mindset helps killers get away.
Very often people who seem to be meek are in truth antisocial, awkward people that live their lives playing video games and watching movies and shows about superhero`s and horror flicks, and in their sick minds they are part of that world. Because they lack social skills and hate people that are at ease and have friends all over.
I don't buy the "abused by my mother" claim. He can say anything he wants, his mom is dead. She can't defend herself. Also, did he ever tell his wife Amy that his mom abused him? Probably not, since his mom didn't.
“The preciseness of the cuts makes the police think he’s a surgeon” IMO, the way he killed Angela doesn’t make me think he’s a surgeon - i think he’s a Serial Killer and wouldn’t be surprised if there were other victims police dont know of.
Glad to see a Brandy Myers segment being included alongside Angela Brosso and Melanie Bernas. I can't even imagine the heartbreak and loss their families have experienced. I was also hoping that Adrienne Salinas would be acknowledged in the episode as well. 19 year old Adrienne disappeared around 5 a.m. on June 15, 2013, in Tempe, Arizona, while walking alone. Her partial remains were found months later in a wash. Bryan Patrick Miller's friend (Keene Azariah) has stated in several interviews that he and Bryan both attended (separately) a mutual friend's house warming party (pig roast) the same night of Adrienne's disappearance. The party took place only a mile away from Adrienne's last seen location. Keene also mentioned that the location of Adrienne's discovered remains was also the same wash location (Weekes Wash) that he and Bryan explored during a treasure hunt in 2012. The police confirmed those reports to be accurate, but its been several years since I've seen anything substantial regarding the case, and whether or not it will be linked to Bryan Patrick Miller. There doesn't appear to be any evidence, and his legal defense is that he supposedly doesn't remember the horrible murders he has committed. Who really knows, but it seems to be too much of a coincidence, given what we now know about Bryan Patrick Miller.
I was hoping they had connected him to her as well - I read the article that his friend had written the the New Times after Miller was arrested, and how he thinks there's a likely connection to Adrienne. I really hope they can solve her case someday. She was the same age as my daughter and disappeared just down the street. I check on her case now and then to see if they've found anything new, but I think Miller's friend is right in thinking he's involved.
People Magazine Investigates did a great episode about Adrienne. It's so blatantly obvious Miller killed her but I don't think the police and prosecutors care enough. Even 48 Hours couldn't be bothered to mention her.
At least it doesn't always work David Berkowitz didn't get off on the insanity plea and the fact that Berkowitz wasn't found insane actually made Ted Bundy not even try for the insanity defense because if a jury found the Son of Sam sane, he had no chance of that defense working
My dad worked in the NOPD crime lab in the 70s and early 80s. I loved going there as a child (he took my 5th grade class on a field trip there). Before my parents moved out west in 2003, we went by the “new crime lab”. Dad would fire guns into a well to retrieve a bullet and they would compare them with a microscope. It’s incredible to see DNA advances (also CCTV, phone tracing. . . ). Awesome that non-detectives can use their passion and expertise to help solve crimes!
I don’t understand how nobody caught this guy sooner, or how investigator seem to be shocked when his DNA came back as a match. He was listed as a person of interest, and he literally has a history of stabbing a woman riding her bike, and a self confessed desire to decapitate and sexually assault women
Why would anyone believe him? He’s probably disparaging his mothers memory because it gives him some sort of weird satisfaction. He obviously hates women. I doubt his mom did anything aside from be somewhat strict.
Give me a break! I was beaten so bad by my mother that I have brain damage and I’m lucky to be alive…that is absolutely no excuse for his bad behavior!
Not an excuse, but there's cause and effect. Many abused kids end up mentally ill and some of them turn violent themselves. I'm very sorry what happened to you, by the way. What a horrible person your mother was.
Nov of 92 we celebrated my daughter's 10th birthday party at castles and coasters at night, riding the pirate ship and other rides, the next day on the news they said they found the head next to the pirate ship ride on the other side of the fence. All of the people that came to the party called and asked if I had watched the news, we were all freaked out. 30 years of this serial killer running loose in the valley, everyone was on edge. Glad he was caught, and the judge made the right decision and the families getting justice.
This is certainly an exception to the rule of, “Monsters don’t always look like monsters.” Sometimes they do. That get up was not only his alter ego, but his hiding place.
Such a captivating but tragic case..these women seemed so full of life and promise and then to be taken away in an instant from their families and friends in such a brutal fashion and at such a young age it’s so hard to imagine what their loved ones had to endure. I hope both Angela and Melanie are able to rest in eternal peace now.
I am gratified the judge adjudicated him guilty in both cases and further, sentenced him to death...I can only imagine the total number of his victims... Lastly, given the mother's fear of him, preventing him from coming home, etc...I find it disgusting that the defense would besmirch her character posthumously...she certainly became his last victim as she had feared....
I agree. I think he never forgave her for not welcoming him back to a home they'd shared and also turned over that writing he'd crafted giving early indication that he was a sicko.
Maybe she really was abusive. Being dead shouldn't excuse someone from how they lived their life. The corrections officers I've known were scummy people.
Celeste you are a warrior. It is crazy they say being stabbed doesn't always feel as a sharp pain like you would think. Thank you for facing him down and identifying him.
I never understand when a murderer is later caught and people come out of the woodworks saying the person confessed years ago but they didn’t think it was true 🤦🏼♀️
I agree. But this particular freak had an extremely elaborate "fantasy identity" and probably lied about or exagerrated many dark exploits. On the other hand, his intimate partner abuse and violence must have lent some credence to his claims 😢
His mother isn't there to defend those lies! He was looking for a out. A shame he didn't get charged for stabbing Melissa and believed she tried to rob him.
What makes this case so chilling is how young he was when he began these atrocities. May their souls rest in peace and sorry to the victims families, having to wait so long but I’m so grateful for the present day advanced science research to catch these monsters! 💔😣🙏🏻
Please be careful ladies, there are some seriously sick Individuals out there. Shouldn't have to say this, it's common sense, but please take a friend if you go walking or riding.
I’m at the beginning but the idea of being literally hunted down by a man dressed like this would make the murders SO MUCH WORSE. The fear level. And if he didn’t wear his costume while he did it he is still a clown. Truly a weak small little pathetic man taking these beautiful vibrant women away. He wanted their light. His aura is dim and ugly. These girls radiated beauty and good energy.
I am sick and tired of people using their bad, abusive childhood as an excuse to do terrible things. I had perhaps one of the WORST childhoods Imaginable, and I am a good person, and have NEVER committed a crime. I simply do NOT want to put others, especially my children to what I went through. There is simply no excuse....
Well done to everyone particularly the cold case unit and all those people who give DNA to ancestry websites (that includes me). It is a difficult issue - I read the terms and conditions, I considered the pros and cons and I went ahead and gave mine.
I agree with the previous comments. I imagine she was afraid of him, which I understand, but we must take action when people have been murdered and a child is involved.
The killer at one point considered calling himself The Canal Stabber, but upon further reflection decided that the Zombie Hunter would be less obvious.
Why do they believe his mother did all that to him? She isn't around anymore and the POS is a liar too. I'm glad the judge didn't see through his BULSH. Prayers for yhe friends and families of the poor girls who died at the heinous hands of that monster!
I sincerely hope all of his victims' families and the family of the killer are able to find peace in this lifetime. I have also been through severe PTSD inducing events as a child and young adult. Still not out here murdering or harming other folks. I agree with the judge's sentence.
Serial killers always seem to be soft spoken and charming, really creepy. But that attempt to blame his mother was lame, you can’t create a serial killer they’re just born that way.
What a coward, blaming everything on his mom and she’s not even alive to say her side of the story. A fvcking monster. Rest in peace to all of his victims that died and the ones that survived, I hope y’all can heal🙏🏾
It’s time we as a society stop blaming our parents for everything and start teaching people that no matter what kind of childhood you’ve had we alone still need to take responsibility for our actions. Society needs to stop thinking we can rehabilitate these kinds of people especially kids!!!
Well if you're not nurturing and just beat your child then its parents fault. I'm definitely not talking about this case, I dont believe the mom tortured him, I think she disciplined him. I'm talking in general, study shows babies need to be nurtured or the child can't feel empathy or compassion. This is how sociopaths are made.
@@peacelove7437 I’m not talking about abuse but social media considers breathing wrong around your kids abusive and grown people who didn’t like boundaries being set love calling it abuse! And then they go on to be like this guy and blame it on the parents.
@peacelove7437 No, not entirely, people are born with their own wiring, and are shaped by many experiences. Many people get abused and don't dismember others.
I have always considered a bunch of adults who spend their time and resources dressing up as fantasy creatures infantile and stunted. My opinion in that matter has been hardened after watching this
OMG I just realized that could have been me!!!! I just moved to Arizona from Pennsylvania those years and I was always riding my bike and running in that same area!!!!! And I will swear that often I got very very sick feeling, like I was being watched
If I was walking in the dark and came face-to-face with someone dressed like that zombie hunter… That would give me a heart attack and scare the begeezus out of me! 😳 Not being able to see someone’s face and just wonder who is under there is so so creepy and I have no doubt whomever dresses like that enjoys scaring people! 😑
Buy a gun, learn how to handle and use it, and get a concealed handgun license. Don’t roll the dice that you won’t be a victim. Be proactive with your self protection. All the women in my family carry guns. Two of them have had close calls and had to use them. Never had to fire, but they would have.. luckily just drawing it and leaving no doubt they would use it was enough in both cases.
Did anybody catch the older woman and the younger girl that he killed look like they could be sisters or mother and daughter and then the one that they couldn’t improve the other younger girl with the blonde hair and the glasses look like them too and then his ex-wife look like them too it’s almost like he specifically picked out people that looked like each other because they all resembled his mother nobody ever mentioned that one
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why you raise my comment ?
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He almost kills a woman at 16 out of the blue and was released at 18 since the system thinks that at 18 all bad traits of a person just disappears. Absolutely ridiculous!
That's not what the system thinks. The juvenile system is different than the adult system and when you're in the juvenile system they have to release you at 18 when you become an adult. The two rarely transfer over. Nobody in the juvenile system believed that bad traits just disappeared. It's best to use common sense when considering such matters.
@@zmoore5555 In some states they can hold you until you are 25 for violent crimes. Oregon, Washington since 2018 or so, California, Utah since around 2020, and a couple other states have laws like that. Tennessee is considering a blended sentencing law that would allow people to remain in the system until they turn 25 and then the court would be able to decide on wether they should be sent to the adult system and sentenced as an adult or released. Having a law like that would have helped in this case since as he needed more than 2 years.
@@zmoore5555You seem triggered for no reason and yet you didn't answer the question of why. Why juveniles are released at 18 regardless of their scary crime like this guy did is the question. The system is clearly not working since juveniles are being released and continue their crime. Why is releasing at 18 a must? Does the system believe they stop committing crimes after their 18th birthday? Why don’t they transfer them to the adult facility?
That's typical of the legal system. A 16 year old mass killer would get less than a 18 year old drug dealer.
So ridiculous.....we are not safe
He got 2 years for stabbing a woman in her back, for no reason at all.
Unbelievable!
Not excusing anything but I'm assuming it's due to him being a minor at the time
@@sandrasantamarina88
I understand that,
but the point is that someone who does this,
he is already a serial killer, no matter what his age.
And his diary confirms that.
This was not an accident, or
I'm sorry, I just made a mistake.
Unfortunately that's the law for juveniles in most states 😢
i have always been amazed at some of the things Juveniles can get away with. and also there are A LOT of people in our society that have bleeding hearts and are always willing to make excuses for people.
Wonder how many ppl he really killed
I can't say much without invading her privacy, but I actually knew his wife personally for many years. I have heard a lot of undisclosed information straight from her mouth and I feel a duty to defend her in this situation.
To start with why she didn't speak up, she actually did. They moved around a few places and she actually made some reports over the years, but none were taken seriously. The confession he made about Brandi was made to her almost 15 years after she was killed and she had genuinely thought he was making up a story. He had done it repeatedly over the years.
She is not "special" as some of you rudely asumed. You don't hear it here, but you can find it in some other podcasts about the show: he tortured her. Viciously. Needles, knives, and so much more. All of the horrible torture gave her a speech impediment from the scarring.
She did not leave her daughter anywhere. When they got a divorce she was unable to make enough money to maintain custody. She was working multiple jobs, but because she had been a stay at home wife and mom for the entire marraige, she had no work experience. The jobs she got were all entry level and the courts didn't think it was a suitable home for the child due to the low income and "absent a lot" mom. She tried desperately to get her back from her ex husband but was stonewalled by the courts until the whole serial killer thing came to light.
She has spent every single year since then desperately attempting to help her daughter, even going so far as to go without food to pay for her daughter's therapy.
(I feel I should note here, she had no reason to believe he was doing anything to their daughter. In fact he doted on her. She believed that her daughter was safe in the home and would never have stayed if she had believed she was in danger. Her first hints that something was off was after the divorce, once she lost custody.)
To the people who are blaming her or accusing her of not preventing this, please take a step back and remember you do not have all the information in this case. The media consistantly portrays her as a conspirator because it makes for good television.
You notice how none of the victim's families have blamed her? It's because they were there to hear her whole testimony. You were not. He had her under his thumb for years. He used threats on her life to keep her from escaping and tortured her for much of their marraige. Just because she's alive, doesn't mean she isn't a victim.
She is a wonderful and strong woman who has endured more than you could ever know. Please be kind. She reads your comments.
(Edited for typos and clarity)
I would also like to add since a lot of the nay-sayers about her seem to think she wasn't under duress during the marriage:
He used her as a stopwall for his behaviors. He blamed her for his actions and told her it was her fault that he had these horrible thoughts and feelings about women. He told her that if she didn't allow him to torture her that he would do it to other women and that would be her fault. She was totally isolated and was actually trying to prevent him from hurting others by staying. She was not aware that he was hurting other women already.
Thank you for sharing this. That’s horrible. What she went through is heartbreaking. I’m so sorry. I hope her and her daughter are getting the help they need. The fact that they let him back on the streets after his first victim at 16 is scary, especially in light of what the mother showed law enforcement. Disgusting. I wish your friend the best.
Thank you for sharing. I’m sure it means the world to her.
Agrees, ty for being her advocate.
Hope she finds all the help she needs to recover from trauma.
Especially financial help in order to search for the best solutions .
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Even as a teen his MO was stabbing the victims in the back. What a coward.
Not as if stabbing them in the face/facing them would make him 'honorable' or anything... but know what you mean.
Most of these type of people are cowards.
@@jamesplymire5342Yes, absolutely. *Scratch the surface of any bully and you’ll find a coward.*
Monster🐊
I recently watched famous castles on Netflix. The barbaric forms of early torture and execution behind castle walls were difficult to listen to so I muted.
But for the monster that savagely took the lives of these innocent victims, I would make an exception.
These lives would be spared if the judicial system would start keeping these guys in prison for their original sins.
Stabbing a woman at 16, then again? Caught 2xs yet still got out. Anyone that wld of just dug deep into his mind wld have known.
Did he just get sentenced then released w/o any Dr. Speaking to him?
All the signs were handed to these judges yet they'll send a drug dealer to prison for 40yrs! Selling Marijuana...
The system is set up by crooked politicians, pedif. & worse.
Our system always allows the criminals to go free it's backwards.
We have got to start making changes.
This man shld never have gotten this far in life.
Pray for his daughter that he had no right having. 🙏
Well...they get the usual "ethnic privilege discount"😢
So sad for his daughter. These monsters devastate so many lives.
And why did his ex-wife think it was a good idea for their daughter to stay with him?
And imagine what his response would be if asked, how he would feel if someone did this crap to HIS child.
An unfortunate reality. So many single mothers raise monsters.
His child may have inherited his temperament
@@Janadu
Not her fault. See the comment near the top of the comment section.
Good example of why cops shouldn't let their gut interfere with an investigation.
Yeh, they were shocked to learn he was the killer despite knowing he had the right surname (Miller) & that he had fantasised about kidnapping & decapitating women.
@@appledoreman yeah that was really shocking to see you would think he WASNT the guy with alllll that information
‘Nooo0O0oooooo!! It can’t possibly be our hometown hero, Phoenix’s beloved Zombie Hunter!!
Why, he’s just another wholesome family man who cosplays as a bombastic gun-toting Good Guy™ while driving a bloody Crown Vic and hunting the pre-deaded undead - he’s almost like one of us!’
The grown man who dresses up like a comic book character is the killer?
He looks like an incel, not as a monster whom he is.
Props to this judge. She delivered the correct sentence.
Yep. He was a chronic, severe threat to women, and it was fitting to see multiple women (the judge, prosecutor, ex-wife, his living victims, etc.) make sure he couldn't harm any others.
@@neeladuggal8581he was never getting out of prison troll-therefore posed no threat - run along bud
@@RealChrisHatch Violent psychopaths get released from prison too early all the time.
i still cant imagine, he has a daughter which is always with him and have thought, if you have a child, you have a good soul (thinking he wont do such crimes because he wont for sure imagine that it will happened the same with his own daughter) but my speculations was wrong, so the daughter was just his props for his cimes enable people will not suspect him as the murderer. How sad especially to the daughter
@@BFdEutschLaNdI watched numerous crime reports it's hard to watch those but I learn a Lot from them. A man who lives with his teen daughter is highly likely to sexually abuse her.
The wife is the hero of this story for agreeing to testify against that sadistic POS. Doing so had to be incredibly frightening for her and I commend her courage. I hope she and her daughter are able to heal and move forward.
Lol the wife who saved herself from the monster & left a helpless child with him.
She definitely a hero.
And nvr reported to police that he murdered and dismembered a child at that! Why would you not say something? And then you let your child live with that monster? I can have some compassion for what she endured but it is a HUGE step to call her a hero. Had she reported what he did to that poor child, those women might be alive today. Not to mention, had they nvr found the man, he'd still be walking the streets killing people. She knew he was a murderer and did nothing. She pretty much had to testify. That's no hero.
Why these killers ask to be shown mercy is beyond me..when they showed none to their victims. R.I.P to these beautiful ladies.
because these killers are cowards, they only target people they think are weaker than them and when faced with actual consequences become like children
I was beat as a child all through my teens. I’m not out here killing people. It’s all an excuse
Many kids who were disciplined like that are fine or seem to be fine, but some are not.
Being abused and/or beaten can trigger mental illness (often those parents are mentally ill themselves) and sadly, sometimes mental illness can lead to violent crimes. Parents can cause a lot of damage to their children.
That being said, I don't think by any means that this should be counted as an excuse - I just wanted to point out cause and effect.
@@MrGrumpyGillsthe vast majority of people who are abused don’t go on to commit murders though. Upbringing affects one’s mentality but free will still exists and he had the ability to choose not to commit the heinous crimes he did.
It doesn't take the majority to commit insane crimes due to a poor upbringing. It just takes a few for us to realize that the abuse we put on children, as adults, can cause some real damage to certain kids. We act as though these shouldn't be excuses, but when a kid commits horrible crimes we all say "where were the parents?" And as soon as those f*cked up kids become adults, we forget all about the horrible upbringing. It's an interesting thing we do as humans.
I'm bipolar and I refuse to let my situation rule me, I was told from a very long time ago that I'm accountable by my dad and what I do is going to be my punishment, I've had my tail tied in knot's and I wear it now as a fashion statement, besides I'm a huge fan of Susan B Anthony, when she was arrested for trying to vote, she was going to be let go because she was a woman and she said I don't want special treatment I want to be treated as a equal. I feel the same way now playing the victim wears out so fast.
Someone give @fordcntry09 an award for not killing anyone.
By FAR the very best true crime show there is. I'm addicted. Please keep uploading more full episodes, it always makes my day. ❤
Yes! I look forward to the uploads!!!! Please never stop!
Dateline is way better
48 Hours and Beyond Evil are the best.
No 48 hours way better
Hats of to the genealogist who diligently pulled this off and somehow got to the bottom of the case , its indescribable how theese cases perpetuate for a long time but thier souls never go to waste , may God bring solace to the family of the victims. 🙏😔
None of us are safe from Creepers, Danger and Monsters. Rest in Forever Peace, Angela and Melanie. I'm sorry their loved ones have to go through their lives missing them.
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creeper here. can confirm, ya'll ain't safe
@@jake6932 😳🫣.. I soooo hope you are kidding! 🛡️
Don’t forget other teenager that they couldn’t find her body. She suffered and her family did also.
Dont forget Brandi, the 13 year old. So heartbreaking to see her pics. Just an innocent kid, going house to house for some school project.
He may have been abused but he still killed people so blaming one for the other is what narcissists do.
Nice run-on sentence 👌
It's also what normal people do too.
@@bettynuggzNice punctuation?😢
@@film79 @film79 Unnecessary when you use an emoji clown... and look at yourself, not putting a space after the question mark...
@@Coolcartingummm some people yes..normal, nope..
Being abused doesn't matter, it was his fault. He had a choice.......
The mother reported him but was ignored.
I highly doubt he was abused. He was known to make outrageous lies.
Every serial killer has slipped thru the hands of law enforcement at some point. It never fails.
Serial killers are very hard to catch
Exactly there not looking for body's hanging tall in the tree the dog's can't even smell them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jimwertherespecially when they have cops for friends
@@Amanda-nt7tt
Conspiracy theorists are ignorant and boring 🥱
@@jimwerther there's pictures of him with cops lmmfao conspiracy theory that 🤡
Wow amazing how”some” people are allowed to get away with crimes for so long. While others are vilified for just existing. Aint no way he only had 2 or 3 victims.
My exact thoughts there are so many transient people around there that you might not even know who he had murdered
Seattle was just voted the city where 75% of murders go unsolved due to lack of Police Detectives.
Allowed? They didn’t have his DNA on any database. You expect miracles from police officers with a present-day caseload, no cold case detectives & no way of zeroing in on the suspect.
He wasn’t allowed to get away with it! If the state has enough to press charges they will! They didn’t have his DNA matched bc they had to get his DNA from the glass!
He didn't but they were the only ones they could prove. If you read about the whole thing LE stated that there were multiple bodies along the canal but they could never tie them to him.
Good to know that modern DNA analysis can compensate for shoddy police work: the guy was already on the suspect list and nobody cared to find the similarities between the murders and his prior activity.
Already on the suspect list - & with a police record for attacking women.
The thing is, most detectives are probably lazy "direct deposit" government employees who phone it in and do the bare minimum. It's so rare in any field to find motivated people who actually care about their work......
Since he was a juvenile was his record sealed or expunged? Melissa’s case was in 2002.
He was a juvenile with his first attack. LE probably never looked into a juvenile for the crimes and I don’t know if they are linked with adult crimes so it probably wasn’t as easy to put together.
@reprovedcandy Very true .Not all not some .Just more then we can think of or imagine. SO MANY REASONS TO CLIMB THE RANKS OF DETECTIVE OTHER THAN WHAT THEIR TITLE ON PAPER SAYS .
Yes, abuse can cause mental illness and violent behaviour. However I don't buy the defendant's claims what his mother allegedly did to him, I think he made that up to make his insanity plea sound believable - he couldn't deny being the killer after all, since his DNA was on the victims.
Also, since the mother is already dead she can't defend herself from these claims anymore.
Plus the mom was so disturbed by his notes she told the cops. It's a weak and desperate defence angle
I agree with you a 100
Exactly! And he likely never forgave her for not welcoming him back into her home after finding his sick and disturbing note about his plans to perpetrate evil vileness against women 😮
They said his mom's abuse was proven
What a sick evil monster blaming his childhood trauma for killing those girls and what is sicker is his defence lawyer rubbing his back when he was sentenced to death.
So sickening to see this evil serial killer blaming it all on his "childhood trauma." And it is more sickening to see psychologists are behind all these blame games, creating all kinds of intellectual-sounding names for the crime. Get real. What he did was evil and he needs to get punished for it.
I disagree.
Defining a human act as "evil" oversimplifes the complex factors that contribute to criminal behavior. By exploring the psychological and environmental conditions that lead to such acts, psychologists aim to understand and address the root causes rather than labeling individuals as inherently "evil." This approach allows for a more comprehensive understanding of human behavior and the potential for prevention and intervention, rather than simply passing judgment. 😊
@@SalznPfeffer658 The reality is that humans have biases and often adopt one narrative that wants nothing to do with why someone committed the crime or what led them to become a serial killer. Most often the statements are: Ooh well many people get abused as children and they don’t become serial killers. While that is true, it gives no room to accept that many serial killers have had extremely complex traumas, and many have also started taking drugs and alcohol, which further deteriorated their mind and ability to control their behavior, emotions and responses towards others. Not everyone becomes a serial killer, but not everyone has the biological ( genetic), and environmental conditions to bring about their disturbing behaviors. The human animal is hard to fathom., it’s quite complex.
I'd like to second the crap outta both of these responses above. It's high time we start understanding the criminal behaviors that inflict longterm/irrefutable damage upon innocent mbrs of society. It is absolutely true, traumas are different and they impact individuals differently. Just bc something falls under the same category, in this instance it's child abuse, doesn't mean they are the same. Before folks lose their cool let me be clear, this does NOT in turn excuse such behavior. Not even remotely. It's simply a fact that NEEDS to be recognized, that is all. This "lock them up and throw away the key" mentality is not enough to deter such "evil" behavior. It doesn't and shouldn't stop when that cell door closes. We NEED to make the effort to understand more. We cannot begin to come up with preventative measures towards something that we don't better understand. Or rather, refuse to better understand. With knowledge comes power, that is a basic level fact. Ignorance and stubbornness is only perpetuating these unrelenting problems. We can and SHOULD do better for ourselves and each other.
@@nuckinfuts7610while i agree with the comments above like you, to a certain extent. once these horrific crimes have been committed and lives have been taken and the numerous lives that have been affected by these crimes, if not lock up the individuals who committed these crimes and throw away the key, what's your solution? And further more,you can't tell me a child born in a violent, abusive non loving environment is not more likely to become a violent adult. If that's all they have ever been taught how do they know any other way be?
@@bbacc929 I NEVER said "not lock the individuals up". Literally never. How did you manage to misinterpret it that way? I said it doesn't stop with locking them up and throwing away the key. Of course the punishment should still exist. Smh I couldn't have been more clear about this. Some people are in such a rush to be right they refuse to correctly read simple facts.
It's scary that a detective can see this man's past and see his hand written notes of horrendous things he wants to do to women and he's just like "what? Nah not this guy. He was so meek around me." I'm sure this kind of mindset helps killers get away.
Very often people who seem to be meek are in truth antisocial, awkward people that live their lives playing video games and watching movies and shows about superhero`s and horror flicks, and in their sick minds they are part of that world. Because they lack social skills and hate people that are at ease and have friends all over.
It’s so sad, obviously she the mom tried hard!!!
I don't buy the "abused by my mother" claim. He can say anything he wants, his mom is dead. She can't defend herself. Also, did he ever tell his wife Amy that his mom abused him? Probably not, since his mom didn't.
It's a old trick to come up with some tale of parental abuse - designed to excuse & explain their horrific crimes.
@@appledoreman ..and avoid being convicted of life or death penalty for their crimes.
Thank you 48 Hours for uploading full episodes! You’re the best!!
He probably committed other murders whilst living in Everett, Washington...
That's what I'm thinking too.
“The preciseness of the cuts makes the police think he’s a surgeon” IMO, the way he killed Angela doesn’t make me think he’s a surgeon - i think he’s a Serial Killer and wouldn’t be surprised if there were other victims police dont know of.
Yup, hard to believe in his entire life, that there were only three victims; (one that he stabbed who survived, and the two who didn't). RIP, ladies.
They were reading to much mickey Spillane
@@johnmonachelli5256The “Mickey Spillane” cohort died within at the most, the last three decades. But thanks for reminder!
Glad to see a Brandy Myers segment being included alongside Angela Brosso and Melanie Bernas. I can't even imagine the heartbreak and loss their families have experienced. I was also hoping that Adrienne Salinas would be acknowledged in the episode as well. 19 year old Adrienne disappeared around 5 a.m. on June 15, 2013, in Tempe, Arizona, while walking alone. Her partial remains were found months later in a wash. Bryan Patrick Miller's friend (Keene Azariah) has stated in several interviews that he and Bryan both attended (separately) a mutual friend's house warming party (pig roast) the same night of Adrienne's disappearance. The party took place only a mile away from Adrienne's last seen location. Keene also mentioned that the location of Adrienne's discovered remains was also the same wash location (Weekes Wash) that he and Bryan explored during a treasure hunt in 2012. The police confirmed those reports to be accurate, but its been several years since I've seen anything substantial regarding the case, and whether or not it will be linked to Bryan Patrick Miller. There doesn't appear to be any evidence, and his legal defense is that he supposedly doesn't remember the horrible murders he has committed. Who really knows, but it seems to be too much of a coincidence, given what we now know about Bryan Patrick Miller.
I was hoping they had connected him to her as well - I read the article that his friend had written the the New Times after Miller was arrested, and how he thinks there's a likely connection to Adrienne. I really hope they can solve her case someday. She was the same age as my daughter and disappeared just down the street. I check on her case now and then to see if they've found anything new, but I think Miller's friend is right in thinking he's involved.
I too was hoping they'd not forget that sweet little angel
I just looked up her name, I remember part of her story 😢
How convenient, he never remembers the events where he klled, only the ones that the victims are alive🙄
People Magazine Investigates did a great episode about Adrienne. It's so blatantly obvious Miller killed her but I don't think the police and prosecutors care enough. Even 48 Hours couldn't be bothered to mention her.
I’m sick of the insanity defenses. How much mercy did he show those girls.
At least it doesn't always work David Berkowitz didn't get off on the insanity plea and the fact that Berkowitz wasn't found insane actually made Ted Bundy not even try for the insanity defense because if a jury found the Son of Sam sane, he had no chance of that defense working
@@ajzephyros7454 yes, glad some don’t get away with it 👍
My dad worked in the NOPD crime lab in the 70s and early 80s. I loved going there as a child (he took my 5th grade class on a field trip there). Before my parents moved out west in 2003, we went by the “new crime lab”. Dad would fire guns into a well to retrieve a bullet and they would compare them with a microscope. It’s incredible to see DNA advances (also CCTV, phone tracing. . . ). Awesome that non-detectives can use their passion and expertise to help solve crimes!
I don’t understand how nobody caught this guy sooner, or how investigator seem to be shocked when his DNA came back as a match.
He was listed as a person of interest, and he literally has a history of stabbing a woman riding her bike, and a self confessed desire to decapitate and sexually assault women
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Right?!
Rex heurman Gilgo11?
Yea, what else did they need to not be shocked about this guy
Part of the Agenda !
Best crime show ever!!! Especially with Peter van Sant!!
Angela's Mother and Melanie's Sister's statements were so strong and heart breaking, the loss of people in this way is devastating.
Why would anyone believe him? He’s probably disparaging his mothers memory because it gives him some sort of weird satisfaction. He obviously hates women. I doubt his mom did anything aside from be somewhat strict.
Agree.
Yup he's lying
Sure, it's possible his mom contributed to his future behavior. However, the time to address that is not AFTER you've unalived someone.
Give me a break! I was beaten so bad by my mother that I have brain damage and I’m lucky to be alive…that is absolutely no excuse for his bad behavior!
Not an excuse, but there's cause and effect. Many abused kids end up mentally ill and some of them turn violent themselves.
I'm very sorry what happened to you, by the way. What a horrible person your mother was.
@@MrGrumpyGillsGrow up and get over it ! There's too many victims in this world.
I’m so sorry for what you went thru!! You are pretty strong and amazing to have survived.
@@sierralilbit7558 you grow up if you can't accept others' opinions.
@@MrGrumpyGills. We were all beat up and these sickos are rare. He was just grasping at straws to save himself. Only modern kids don’t get the belt.
Nov of 92 we celebrated my daughter's 10th birthday party at castles and coasters at night, riding the pirate ship and other rides, the next day on the news they said they found the head next to the pirate ship ride on the other side of the fence. All of the people that came to the party called and asked if I had watched the news, we were all freaked out.
30 years of this serial killer running loose in the valley, everyone was on edge. Glad he was caught, and the judge made the right decision and the families getting justice.
I’m 41 now, and was 10 when this happened. This happened right next to where I grew up. It was crazy!
I never heard of this psychopath.
@@LynxStarAuto you've been under a rock, obviously
I'm 37, also from Phx. Dang we're good! Do D Backs!!!
So sad. Stay strong.
@@bettynuggz You look like you got beaten with one 😊
This is certainly an exception to the rule of, “Monsters don’t always look like monsters.” Sometimes they do. That get up was not only his alter ego, but his hiding place.
There were a million red flags surrounding this creep.
100 percent he wanted to hide in plain sight. He was weak small and scared but also had some sick bravado.
yeah, Ted Bundy has agreed.
@@stfuplsok You’re absolutely correct. Hell Bundy was downright cute.
Also reminds me of Gacy’s Pogo the clown.
Such a captivating but tragic case..these women seemed so full of life and promise and then to be taken away in an instant from their families and friends in such a brutal fashion and at such a young age it’s so hard to imagine what their loved ones had to endure. I hope both Angela and Melanie are able to rest in eternal peace now.
I am gratified the judge adjudicated him guilty in both cases and further, sentenced him to death...I can only imagine the total number of his victims...
Lastly, given the mother's fear of him, preventing him from coming home, etc...I find it disgusting that the defense would besmirch her character posthumously...she certainly became his last victim as she had feared....
I agree. I think he never forgave her for not welcoming him back to a home they'd shared and also turned over that writing he'd crafted giving early indication that he was a sicko.
Maybe she really was abusive. Being dead shouldn't excuse someone from how they lived their life. The corrections officers I've known were scummy people.
@@ReligiousZombieI know a bunch of correctional officers who are decent hardworking people.
I love 48 hours and I love Peter v. Sant! Greetings from Germany!
Celeste you are a warrior. It is crazy they say being stabbed doesn't always feel as a sharp pain like you would think. Thank you for facing him down and identifying him.
Video never does our sunsets any justice. The colors are much more vibrant, its absolutely amazing!!
I never understand when a murderer is later caught and people come out of the woodworks saying the person confessed years ago but they didn’t think it was true 🤦🏼♀️
I agree. But this particular freak had an extremely elaborate "fantasy identity" and probably lied about or exagerrated many dark exploits. On the other hand, his intimate partner abuse and violence must have lent some credence to his claims 😢
Another great episode that shows how great 48 Hours is.
They didn't mention another victim. Great work.
His mother isn't there to defend those lies! He was looking for a out. A shame he didn't get charged for stabbing Melissa and believed she tried to rob him.
Didn't you hear where they said the abuse from his mom was proved? Something had to turn him into the monster he is!
The cold blooded murderer blames his mother.....
One definitive link serial offenders have is a disfunctional relationship with their mothers when they were children.
He is a coward,and he accuse his mother, never believe him
The look on the experienced judge's face as she has to sit and listen to horrors no one should ever have to hear about says it all.
The police could have solved this by checking past stabbings, unbelievable when u hear of past crimes
What makes this case so chilling is how young he was when he began these atrocities. May their souls rest in peace and sorry to the victims families, having to wait so long but I’m so grateful for the present day advanced science research to catch these monsters! 💔😣🙏🏻
The judge that let Brian out of juvie needs to be held accountable for the murders!
Agree!
He turned 18 and thus had to be released.
It wasn’t the judges fault they legally could only keep him locked up until 18!
Blame people who vote for politicians who support light sentences
I'd say the jury who acquitted him.after he stabbed Melissa made judgment.
Omgosh his daughter lived in that nightmare. Had sad for her.
Girl dissappear 2 doors down from Halfway house and he wasn't investigated then? Terrible police work
You are definitely right.
He was as the sister made reference to parts of the investigation at the time.
The girl was never scene after knocking on the door of the halfway house, no need to look in there right.
A psychopat never takes responsability for anything. He’s blamed on his mother who wasn’t even alive to tell her side of the story. Disgusting.
Detective Schwartzkopf is a genius 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾This monster should’ve been locked up forever after that first stabbing.
Nonthing beats science let's be honest 💪 science always win no matter how long it takes
Please be careful ladies, there are some seriously sick Individuals out there. Shouldn't have to say this, it's common sense, but please take a friend if you go walking or riding.
The sick person would take them both.
@@redrumhumExactly, he sounds like a sicko himself.
Instead of telling women to be careful, tell men to be better.
Who bikes in Phoenix? It's like 115° all the time. 🌞 🔥
Obviously, you don't live here. If that were true, we wouldn't have snowbirds coming down every winter.
Thank you 48hours for putting this full episode on
The Phoenix Police had his name in their files but never bothered to check his background. They had over 20 years to go through their suspect list.
Of all the crime shows, 48 hours is tops! I get so excited when I see a new episode up in UA-cam! 😂 Thank you!
His mom isn’t here to defend herself this murderer can say anything he wants
Hiding in plain sight????? Dressing up like that with blood on a cop car is a huge Las Vegas sized sign /red flag!!!
You forgot the psycho/stabby part; while driving in a police car.
And there is no hiding part either, just in plain sight.
I’m at the beginning but the idea of being literally hunted down by a man dressed like this would make the murders SO MUCH WORSE. The fear level. And if he didn’t wear his costume while he did it he is still a clown. Truly a weak small little pathetic man taking these beautiful vibrant women away. He wanted their light. His aura is dim and ugly. These girls radiated beauty and good energy.
Yeah coming at them from behind each time and stab5ubg them in the back shows his cowardice
He didn’t wear his costume during the mvrders.
He wasn't wearing that outfit when he was committing those murders. SMH. 🤦🏻♂️
I am sick and tired of people using their bad, abusive childhood as an excuse to do terrible things. I had perhaps one of the WORST childhoods Imaginable, and I am a good person, and have NEVER committed a crime. I simply do NOT want to put others, especially my children to what I went through. There is simply no excuse....
Ditto.
🔥🔥🔥 Best intro music in all of true crime genre
My favorite crime show on UA-cam
Yes, of course - always blame the mother! How convenient that this particular one is dead and unable to refute his claims about her.
Well done to everyone particularly the cold case unit and all those people who give DNA to ancestry websites (that includes me). It is a difficult issue - I read the terms and conditions, I considered the pros and cons and I went ahead and gave mine.
His wife should be ashamed - to have that knowledge and not report it.
What makes it even more disgusting is the fact she’s a mother of a daughter herself.
Exactly. And she let her daughter live in that hell hole.
And to leave their child with him? WTF is wrong with her?
I agree with the previous comments. I imagine she was afraid of him, which I understand, but we must take action when people have been murdered and a child is involved.
Blame the mother…smh
The killer at one point considered calling himself The Canal Stabber, but upon further reflection decided that the Zombie Hunter would be less obvious.
He needs to give closure to other victim's family. He's already on death row after all
I’m suspicious of any adult who still plays dress up 🤣🤣🤣
Amen! Ain’t no one got time for that.
Why do they believe his mother did all that to him? She isn't around anymore and the POS is a liar too. I'm glad the judge didn't see through his BULSH. Prayers for yhe friends and families of the poor girls who died at the heinous hands of that monster!
You're glad the judge didn't see through his bs? What do you mean? Did I miss something
I wonder if any family member testified supporting his claims because he used to blame his wife for his actions too…
What mom , knowing her husband is a monster, let's their child live with that monster?
Exactly. WTF is wrong with her?
Did y'all hear her talking? She sounded very "special" if you catch my meaning.
lets* their
@@film79Oh yeah, my friend ;-)
The courts gave him custody because she didn’t earn enough money to support herself. Money.
I like the way the judge handled the case.
She is a wise judge
I sincerely hope all of his victims' families and the family of the killer are able to find peace in this lifetime.
I have also been through severe PTSD inducing events as a child and young adult. Still not out here murdering or harming other folks. I agree with the judge's sentence.
The best crime show.
Nope, clown 🤡
@@bettynuggz 🥶🥶
@@Xsinfo-l3x 😂
Serial killers always seem to be soft spoken and charming, really creepy. But that attempt to blame his mother was lame, you can’t create a serial killer they’re just born that way.
Sick and fkn tired of monsters blaming their upbringing on committing inhumane crimes which is no excuse or reason WATSOEVER 😤
What a coward, blaming everything on his mom and she’s not even alive to say her side of the story. A fvcking monster.
Rest in peace to all of his victims that died and the ones that survived, I hope y’all can heal🙏🏾
He’s a fab dectective. Cold cases are hard to solve. He’s one of the best
It’s time we as a society stop blaming our parents for everything and start teaching people that no matter what kind of childhood you’ve had we alone still need to take responsibility for our actions. Society needs to stop thinking we can rehabilitate these kinds of people especially kids!!!
Well if you're not nurturing and just beat your child then its parents fault.
I'm definitely not talking about this case, I dont believe the mom tortured him, I think she disciplined him. I'm talking in general, study shows babies need to be nurtured or the child can't feel empathy or compassion. This is how sociopaths are made.
@@peacelove7437 I’m not talking about abuse but social media considers breathing wrong around your kids abusive and grown people who didn’t like boundaries being set love calling it abuse! And then they go on to be like this guy and blame it on the parents.
@peacelove7437 No, not entirely, people are born with their own wiring, and are shaped by many experiences. Many people get abused and don't dismember others.
I have always considered a bunch of adults who spend their time and resources dressing up as fantasy creatures infantile and stunted. My opinion in that matter has been hardened after watching this
We have a large segment of childish adults in our society.
I was in JR high when these happened and we lived about a block over from the East part of the canal, we never went walking on the canal alone.
The tumb nail is what spent me I was like wtf 😳 kinda case is this about to be
Why do I feel he has more victims? 😬
OMG I just realized that could have been me!!!! I just moved to Arizona from Pennsylvania those years and I was always riding my bike and running in that same area!!!!! And I will swear that often I got very very sick feeling, like I was being watched
Thank God they got that daughter away from him. Shame that it wasn't until she was almost an adult. :(
Probably too late. That house was horrible for a child to be in.
How did he get custody is what I want to know? How or why would her mother allow her daughter to be with this guy? Knowing what she knows ?
His mother is dead she can't defend herself,
If I was walking in the dark and came face-to-face with someone dressed like that zombie hunter… That would give me a heart attack and scare the begeezus out of me! 😳 Not being able to see someone’s face and just wonder who is under there is so so creepy and I have no doubt whomever dresses like that enjoys scaring people! 😑
Buy a gun, learn how to handle and use it, and get a concealed handgun license. Don’t roll the dice that you won’t be a victim. Be proactive with your self protection. All the women in my family carry guns. Two of them have had close calls and had to use them. Never had to fire, but they would have.. luckily just drawing it and leaving no doubt they would use it was enough in both cases.
I was 15 when these murders were committed. I lived in a reasonably small, safe town. We would have NEVER biked alone at night ANYWHERE.
Did anybody catch the older woman and the younger girl that he killed look like they could be sisters or mother and daughter and then the one that they couldn’t improve the other younger girl with the blonde hair and the glasses look like them too and then his ex-wife look like them too it’s almost like he specifically picked out people that looked like each other because they all resembled his mother nobody ever mentioned that one
Please make sense
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Great episode. Unfortunate stories always
He blamed his mother for his act... The mother is long gone, what can be proved? May he repent in prison. May God have mercy on him.
Zombie hunter thought everybody was a zombie 🫥
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Comic Con Nuts!
What a wonderful judge!💖