Evolution of Combat in Star Wars

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  • We examine the history of warfare in Star Wars, from the clone wars all the way to the first order invasion.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 925

  • @qtreis
    @qtreis 4 роки тому +1835

    The Old Republic Troopers went hand-to-hand against Sith Warriors. I say that’s badass.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +45

      @Dennis Galindez But not cheap.

    • @flexangelo
      @flexangelo 4 роки тому +45

      Frankly that was just that one Soldier who fucked Satele

    • @viethoangphan1499
      @viethoangphan1499 4 роки тому +67

      They are Havoc squad, elite trooper, they maybe can go hand to hand against Sith warrior. The other grunts, not so much.

    • @jayvhoncalma3458
      @jayvhoncalma3458 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah that's pretty badass

    • @EternalWolf08
      @EternalWolf08 4 роки тому +33

      The overall quality of force users, both jedi and sith, were toned down during that time.

  • @shriterk8995
    @shriterk8995 4 роки тому +437

    Jedi “ oh blasters are so crude and uncivilized”
    Also Jedi “but decapitation is ok”

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 4 роки тому +33

      An at times... basically mind raping...

    • @hiboomer1191
      @hiboomer1191 4 роки тому +5

      Quick death?

    • @thesaltiestfry1681
      @thesaltiestfry1681 4 роки тому +3

      You wouldn’t bleed out, it’s some BS thing about the blaster bolts stopping blood from flowing out.

    • @shriterk8995
      @shriterk8995 4 роки тому +5

      Dominater 995 it’s called cauterization

    • @daevster6663
      @daevster6663 4 роки тому

      Crispy Spam thanks for reiterating what was previously established twice already. Thanks bud you’re doing the lords work🙏

  • @s4m_1223
    @s4m_1223 4 роки тому +1344

    Sith Troopers: We’re the best!
    Death Troopers: No, we are!
    ARC Troopers: Y’all saying something?

    • @OrthodoxLegion907
      @OrthodoxLegion907 4 роки тому +127

      Saemin Kang Clone Commandos:Hold my bacta!!!

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 4 роки тому +30

      Terran SOF operators: "Fxxx off u sxxxholes! U guys are so awful at any ground based warfare!"

    • @Shadowpack95
      @Shadowpack95 4 роки тому +60

      the mandalorian super commandoes would like to chime in

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 4 роки тому +29

      Knights of Ren: Leave quietly.

    • @BlackAngus69
      @BlackAngus69 4 роки тому +38

      Republic Commando: *laughs in bacta*

  • @chasedimond8779
    @chasedimond8779 4 роки тому +1115

    I’m pretty sure the people in the lower levels of coruscant don’t live in luxury so being in the military would be a step up for them

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +102

      That is true for 99% people in Star Wars.

    • @brandonwheeler9544
      @brandonwheeler9544 4 роки тому +8

      Depends what military lol

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +74

      @@brandonwheeler9544 Stormtroopers were in fact well payed. At least those in the Empire.

    • @Southern_Crusader
      @Southern_Crusader 4 роки тому +8

      Literally.

    • @davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244
      @davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244 4 роки тому +94

      Let's not forget some of the citizens of Coruscant thought that the sky wasn't real... That's messed up, I bet the could have a standard and permanent armed forces with those guy's alone

  • @andus5744
    @andus5744 4 роки тому +438

    "Look at how precise these stormtroopers are firing into a crowd of innocent terrorists"

  • @rejaxreject8422
    @rejaxreject8422 4 роки тому +122

    “Innocent terrorists” best line I have ever heard

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake 4 роки тому +427

    In really shocked that nobody questioned the Clone Army further and investigated more thoroughly

    • @marktunes
      @marktunes 4 роки тому +40

      The jedi did and found out it was the count that ordered its creation. They kept it classified.

    • @lanemontoya518
      @lanemontoya518 3 роки тому +15

      @@marktunes Except Sifo-Dyas ordered the Clones, did he not?

    • @marktunes
      @marktunes 3 роки тому +55

      @@lanemontoya518 Master Kenobi was told by Jango Fet that he was recruited by a man called Tyrannus, in the movie The Clone Wars. Then the Jedi discovered Tyrannus was an alias of Count Dooku, in episode 10 of season 6 (The Lost One) from Star Wars The Clone Wars TV Series. The Jedi counsel thus became aware of the origin of the clones as "an army made for us by our enemy" under the name Sifo-Dyas. But chose to keep this secret from the public and the Chancellor because it was the "only path" to avoid mass panic. Also in season 6 the incident with a defective clone control bio chip led to an investigation of the chips, but the Chancellor and the Kaminoans expertly deceived the Jedi into believing the chips were just a safe guard to restrain aggressive and unpredictable behavior, they were clones of a Mandalorian after all. The incident was excused by the Chancellor as both clone troopers involved cough a rare parasite that degraded the chip and caused aggressive and unpredictable behavior. The incident was swept under the rug and the rest is history. Episodes 1 to 4 of season 6 from Star wars The Clone Wars.

    • @Leo-vr3bg
      @Leo-vr3bg 3 роки тому +4

      Because it’s a movie

    • @NemesisSP
      @NemesisSP 3 роки тому +20

      @@Leo-vr3bg People who say "It's just a movie" are just killjoys looking to be assholes. Congrats for proving that you one of those assholes.

  • @trumbitis7980
    @trumbitis7980 4 роки тому +306

    Knights of the old republic sith troopers: we exist
    Rise of Skywalker sith troopers: unluckily for you history will not see it that way

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +13

      What Sith Troopers? You mean Imperial Guards?

    • @trumbitis7980
      @trumbitis7980 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheRezro no

    • @theknightsofawesomeness2701
      @theknightsofawesomeness2701 4 роки тому +18

      I think that the Rise of Skywalker Sith troopers got their name from KOTOR Sith troopers

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +1

      @@trumbitis7980 Ok, so they in fact are called that way. My bad.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +1

      @Adrock 99 Yes, but serving the Sith.

  • @acdc6151
    @acdc6151 4 роки тому +339

    Generation Tech: War......
    It changes bruh.

    • @topramen3795
      @topramen3795 4 роки тому +11

      Star Wars New Vegas

    • @larryblake842
      @larryblake842 4 роки тому +1

      But the essence of war never changes. The way it is fought sure does change.

    • @centidogfisher2220
      @centidogfisher2220 4 роки тому +1

      Larry Blake the way we fight wars may change but the conqunces never change

    • @AaronKarper
      @AaronKarper 4 роки тому +1

      @@larryblake842 War... it never changes. But it does. But the essence doesn't. Unless we're talking real world. Then probably the essence changes too. Where was this prologue going?

    • @iliadnetfear2586
      @iliadnetfear2586 4 роки тому

      Conflict never changes, war always does.
      The idea of conflict and fighting will always be the same, but warfare never stops changing.

  • @lordfrostwind3151
    @lordfrostwind3151 4 роки тому +32

    There was one area the Empire and First Order significantly regressed from the Republic, that was in the use of airborne infantry with dedicated air support. TIEs were never as good at supporting the troops as the LAAT and they also lost a lot of ground mobility because of that.

  • @alexvieira7945
    @alexvieira7945 4 роки тому +139

    I want a video about how and where starships are built.

    • @alexvieira7945
      @alexvieira7945 4 роки тому +12

      @@NotSnidge well thanks, still want a video about it lol.

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 4 роки тому +10

      I’m sure EckhartsLadder has something.

    • @somerandomperson1344
      @somerandomperson1344 4 роки тому +10

      The most notable places where ships were built were Kuat, Corellia, and Fondor.

    • @Tar-Numendil
      @Tar-Numendil 4 роки тому +5

      Look up Kuat, Rothana, Corellia, Fondor, Mon Calamari, Sluis Van, Anaxes, the Star Forge, the Maw Installation, Allanteen VI, Bothawui, Gallofree Yards, Gyndine Shipyards, Sullust, Koensayr Yards, Raxus Prime, Rendili, Ringo Vinda, Ubrikkian Yards, and Yaga Minor.
      Edit: Also Taerab Starship Manufacturing.

    • @samthemessiah9330
      @samthemessiah9330 4 роки тому +2

      This is something I've actually always wanted to see

  • @jamesjung8931
    @jamesjung8931 4 роки тому +12

    This actually makes so much sense. I love the military evolution of star wars (until the sequel trilogy) Before the clone wars planets had to defend themselves with fighters and small cruisers. They didnt have the resources to make and maintain capital ships. This ideology was used in the clone wars. The republic and CIS navy is based off this mindset. It used retrofitted civilian ships, consular, cr90, lukrehulk, munificent and created ships to support a fighter dominated warfare, venator and providence. The republic through the development and use of victory class and probably prototype ISDs found out heavier, stronger ships were more effective in a conventional war. So with the trasition into an empire, with this mindset, they built more and more ISDs. But to have hands on control of the galaxy ISDs were too expensive and resourse intensive. (Even the republic couldn't patrol the entire galaxy) That's were the tarkin doctrine comes in. Control the galaxy through fear. But the tarkin doctire military was ineffective against rebels who use hit and run tactics.
    This evolution is amazing because you can see the military evolve. As the audience we can nitpick and see why this and that could've been done better, but within the lore, the military evolves using it's own history. The empire didnt know of the rebel threat when it created its military. It only had the clone wars to look to for guidance. A war that could've been prevented/won earlier if it had a heavier hand and stronger ships. Therefore the empire created the tarkin doctire and ISDs

  • @shivenrege6780
    @shivenrege6780 4 роки тому +46

    "Then there is the message of hope"
    Shows Porg
    PORGS ARE THE HOPE OF THE GALAXY

  • @julianmathe3713
    @julianmathe3713 4 роки тому +59

    You made a mistake, you said the First Order invasion lasted from 0 ABY to 5 ABY. That is the GCW! You could've extended the video to the Old Republic era or beyond...

  • @youhan9574
    @youhan9574 4 роки тому +12

    This is a history educational channel disguised as a Star Wars channel. I love it ~

  • @supastarvfr9534
    @supastarvfr9534 4 роки тому +9

    Starkiller Base had such a long firing range that it had the option of travelling or not travelling to the system designated to be destroyed.
    Death Stars had to pull hyperspace jumps for every attack.

    • @N120Xeno
      @N120Xeno 4 роки тому +4

      Well Starkiller couldn’t hyperspace jump. The Death Star could always be on the move like the galaxy gun. So I guess it evens out.

  • @bananamango2910
    @bananamango2910 4 роки тому +133

    So... the clone wars were a combination of the american revolution and the Vietnam war? Edit: and ww2.
    Let me explain.
    There were iconic troop transports that could hover. Dog fights at a close range happened.

    • @TU-mf2ut
      @TU-mf2ut 4 роки тому +10

      Lucas ripped a lot from WW2 movies. The Death Star run was basically ripping a scene from a WW2 movie called the dam busters.

    • @worldconqueror2206
      @worldconqueror2206 3 роки тому

      Its more like the clone wars featured combat more akin to that found in the revolutionary War and the napoleonic wars (throw everything at the enemy) Then the empire basically moves on to ww2 strategies against Vietnam guerrilla warfare (massive ships of the line, armored spearheads and superior firepower)
      The empire also creates planet killers whose impact are very similar to that of total nuclear devastation, this goes on to nearly a galaxy wide Armageddon much like how the cold war was played

  • @Lord_Shadowz
    @Lord_Shadowz 3 роки тому +7

    I WISH they had shown a First Order upgraded Imperial Star Destroyer. I know they made them automated to require a lot less crew. But I would have liked to have seen them. Maybe they protect worlds and assets in the Unknown Regions?

  • @ARC-wo4qr
    @ARC-wo4qr 4 роки тому +8

    10:59 Palpatine should have been like Michael Scott and tried to make people afraid of how much they loved him.

  • @james35124
    @james35124 4 роки тому +16

    You forgot to explain the resistance's space "gravity" bomber

  • @lordshankracing4724
    @lordshankracing4724 4 роки тому +7

    When i was little, I always new that the droids were the good guys. They were the good guys by the end of the clone wars.

  • @stud_sidious
    @stud_sidious 3 роки тому +1

    Rogue Squadron is said to be the best dog fighting war movie to date. I’m excited for all the new Star Wars content.

  • @CJ-442
    @CJ-442 4 роки тому +160

    Devil’s advocate: I’m getting kind of sick of hearing about that one time where Anakin rammed his Venator into that Lucrehulk under the guise of surrender. In our world, yes, that’s terrible and sets a bad precedent. But you need to remember who it was they were fighting.
    The separatists were already breaking all the rules of engagement and had been committing numerous war crimes from the very start of the war. At that point, just pretending to surrender as you prepared a counterattack is tame in comparison.
    Also, keep in mind that surrendering to the CIS wasn’t really an option for a Jedi. You’d most likely either be executed on the spot or experience an “accident” on your way to your cell. Best case scenario, Dooku might see you as potentially useful, so you’d be tortured until you turn to the Dark Side and agree to join him.

    • @longboi2674
      @longboi2674 4 роки тому +20

      Republic propaganda

    • @f5boDag
      @f5boDag 4 роки тому +10

      Nah it was a warcrime at the hand of the most famous Jedi. The spacewar undoubtedly escalated in it's horror and dishonour from that point foward.

    • @owenhess6562
      @owenhess6562 4 роки тому +8

      Also, I don’t recall there being any type of rules of war in the clone wars, since their hasn’t been a galactic conflict for 1000 years

    • @r7cowboy824
      @r7cowboy824 4 роки тому +1

      There are no rules to war anyone who says so is on the losing side because if you let something as low as someone's word be enough for you to trust you deserve to have lost for not being smart enough to see the deceit a good example is the red wedding from game of thrones

    • @owenhess6562
      @owenhess6562 4 роки тому

      R6 Cowboy I get what say, we lose are sense or moral in war, we become something else. But what im trying say is, the galaxy was at relative peace for a 1000 years. The idea if a rules of war didnt come across anyones mind, cause of the sudden outbreak of war

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 4 роки тому +30

    If Earth is in Star Wars, the Terrans are a master of any groundbased warfare and atmospheric combat. Even better than the Mandalorians!

    • @chloe_gospinny
      @chloe_gospinny 4 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 4 роки тому +2

      @@chloe_gospinny thanks

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah but any military capable of space travel can just drop orbital bombardment upon orbital bombardment to make us surrender

    • @Twadfire
      @Twadfire 4 роки тому +2

      The fact we can shoot at stuff beyond "conveniently dramatic camera shot angle" helps a lot.

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 4 роки тому +3

      @@pokemaster123ism all we need is a single scout ship to enter atmosphere. We'll shoot it down, break it down in months, and have a full fleet in a year.

  • @noahgreer1497
    @noahgreer1497 4 роки тому +4

    I think if you supplimented the First Order with battle droids like what the CIS had you'd make a more efficient military. Be interesting to see what kinda military doctrines you could play Frankenstein with.

  • @dirtbagprivate289
    @dirtbagprivate289 2 роки тому +4

    The republic fought like prussian forces during the napoleonic wars
    The empire was spread thin like ww1 germany
    The 1st order efficiently marched through like the 3rd Reich, but also wasted away from superweapons and crazy brass members

  • @richardarreola8180
    @richardarreola8180 4 роки тому +6

    I have watched countless number of your vids. I really enjoy your presentation even when I disagree. Keep it up.

  • @cooldawg5575
    @cooldawg5575 Рік тому +1

    Basic tie fighter: we have numbers.
    X wing: we can see around us.
    First order tie: who needs to see when I got a gunner in the back?

  • @H0wlrunn3r
    @H0wlrunn3r 4 роки тому +18

    This week on Generation tech we’re gonna be talking about war and how it never changes 😂

  • @bigcheese3395
    @bigcheese3395 4 роки тому +4

    Haven’t had time to see episode 9 and just finished watching episode 8 again and now I decided to drop everything and go watch episode 9

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator 4 роки тому +4

      Yes, yes. Let go of your money. Let the hate flow through you. Darth Mickey commands it.

  • @oliverkearney
    @oliverkearney 4 роки тому +230

    Generation Tech: we're not going to compare to this to the American war...
    This is more about taxation without representation

    • @gabe7933
      @gabe7933 4 роки тому +41

      Oliver Kearney he’s talking about the civil war not the American revolution

    • @Outlawstar79
      @Outlawstar79 4 роки тому +40

      @@gabe7933 this civil war wasn't about slavery, that is just what the North claimed since they won the war...it was actually over the same taxation issue and trying to bully the South.

    • @bigbabydoof7657
      @bigbabydoof7657 4 роки тому +26

      @@Outlawstar79 fuck off, lepton

    • @YUSAF621
      @YUSAF621 4 роки тому +11

      @@Outlawstar79 You mean war of Southern Independence.

    • @RebelRed-rt9ex
      @RebelRed-rt9ex 4 роки тому +3

      @@YUSAF621 amen

  • @ChildofDust
    @ChildofDust 4 роки тому +4

    Great video. I've spent hours watching war documentaries primarily WW2 and Vietnam. I can appreciate your perspective.
    Huge fan btw love the channel keep it up bro.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 4 роки тому +36

    How durable is Mandalorian armor in the Expanded Universe when compared to other armor sets like Spartan MJOLNIR armor or Terran Dominion armor?
    And how useful would they be in real life?

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 4 роки тому +4

      Do you mean Beskar?

    • @lordfrostwind3151
      @lordfrostwind3151 4 роки тому +12

      Mandalorian armor, aside from a few cases isn't what we'd consider a powered exosuit like MJONIR or Space Marine (Starcraft and 40K) armor suits, so while it will offer significant protection and you can attach an array of gadgets it doesn't improve the operator's performance at strength or agility. And the other downfall is while the Beskar plates offer great protection, the wielder still has just his body glove to protect against kinetic impact like nearby explosions, which Halo armor actually has a dedicated layer of gel to keep the operator in one piece. Though a suit of that in real life would be extremely helpful against everything but artillery strikes.

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 4 роки тому

      Depends on if you add shields.

    • @Southern_Crusader
      @Southern_Crusader 4 роки тому +1

      My guess is that it’d be impractical for actual warfare on Earth. Heavy armor is good to hopefully stop a round, but mobility is the name of the game. Kind of like how we no longer use full plate armor when bullets could easily penetrate them with enough velocity. Watch some of the guys who test those things, like how high a caliber body armor can stop.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 4 роки тому +1

      @@Southern_Crusader the reason why they stopped using full plate armor has more to do with changes in tactics and military organization. A knight is a very wealthy individual that provides for his own really expensive equipment and has servants maintaining said equipment. In the late 17th century/early 18th century however we see the rise of national militaries, the equipment was paid for by the state, equipping every soldier with steel helmets and cuirasses was a bit too expensive.

  • @volkan202
    @volkan202 3 роки тому +2

    people like to compare clones and stormtroopers
    but it's important to remember that they were fighting different enemies in different wars
    clones were fighting a conventional war against a bunch of droids
    stormtroopers fought against an insurgency of living soldiers, and guerrilla warfare is ALOT harder to deal with then conventional warfare, Infact when the rebels try to fight a conventional war against the empire, they just straight up lose, almost always
    just something i felt needed to be pointed out

  • @annusrideviravindran6396
    @annusrideviravindran6396 4 роки тому +32

    The more Star Wars grow, the clanker the combat will be

  • @rootintootinnewton
    @rootintootinnewton 4 роки тому +2

    "They were seen as monsters"
    *happy upbeat presumably house music proceeds to play*

  • @midniteoyl8913
    @midniteoyl8913 4 роки тому +4

    Has anybody ever explained how Starkiller Base was able to shoot planets so far away so quickly? Speed of light is actually really slow at space distances. Or how Han and Finn and them were able to see it happen from where they were?

    • @grayflaneur4854
      @grayflaneur4854 4 роки тому +2

      It's in the script...

    • @robb1914
      @robb1914 Рік тому

      Star Wars has a lot of unrealistic science haha

    • @Spoder_07
      @Spoder_07 Рік тому

      I think the official explanation is that the destruction was so big the perturbance it created in the force allowed it to be visible everywhere at once. Yeah I don’t vine with it either but whatever

  • @josiahschindel5195
    @josiahschindel5195 4 роки тому +2

    can you guys do a video on how reys light saber is completely fine in TROS even after it got ripped in half in TLJ? would really appreciate getting that cleared up

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 4 роки тому +6

    Hang on, if… in The Rise of Skywalker the off the cuff comment to remove hyperspace ramming is correct…
    "Why not try the Holdo maneuver?"
    "That was a one in a million shot"
    That means there was only a 0.0001% of it working and a 99.9999% chance of Holdo either getting away (assuming the Supremacy didn't follow the jump) or just splatting on the front of the Supremacy's shields, like a GR75 on the front of the Devastator's shields over Scarff.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +2

      Hyperspace Ramming was in Expanded Universe you imbeciles 0_0
      But it isn't something easy to set off. What ignoramus dipshits don't understand is that Holdo set specific trap to make it work. She use for example fact that they were convinced that Rhodus is out of fuel and didn't try avoid ramming and they ship was too massive to do that anyway. And for reminder in Return of the Jedi A-Wing take out whole Super Star Destroyer, so what problem people have again?

    • @MrGalagoth
      @MrGalagoth 4 роки тому +3

      @@TheRezro that A-Wing did not jump to hyperspace it just rammed the bridge

    • @ToddTheTolerable
      @ToddTheTolerable 4 роки тому +3

      My headcanon says Holdo was a coward and thought she'd escape but accidentially rammed the Supremacy and destroyed it.

    • @Haywire-mi5fq
      @Haywire-mi5fq 4 роки тому +1

      ToddTheTolerable sounds about right

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому

      @@MrGalagoth Irrelevant.

  • @TommygunNG
    @TommygunNG 4 роки тому +2

    A collection of all the combat scenes, with absolute minimal backstory/context, from all the Star Wars films in story order would be great. Sequel trilogy pulled the franchise off the rails storywise.

  • @little_isalina
    @little_isalina 4 роки тому +12

    You gotta love the Star Wars EU for all its post-hoc rationalizations for why all their military technology designs and strategies are trash.

  • @skootmeister3994
    @skootmeister3994 2 роки тому

    “War never changes, but the world it’s fought in does.”

  • @MissMalevolent
    @MissMalevolent 4 роки тому +34

    Wow, I've never been this early.

    • @ryanhickman3335
      @ryanhickman3335 4 роки тому +1

      How?

    • @gabrielmunoz7342
      @gabrielmunoz7342 4 роки тому +4

      It’s treason then

    • @chloe_gospinny
      @chloe_gospinny 4 роки тому +2

      How is this comment from an hour ago? It only released 20 minutes ago.

    • @ghoststory3121
      @ghoststory3121 4 роки тому

      Wow I’ve never cared less

    • @MissMalevolent
      @MissMalevolent 4 роки тому

      @@ghoststory3121 Apathy doesn't usually come in the form of a comment. You're doing it wrong.

  • @ACEnBEAKY
    @ACEnBEAKY 4 роки тому +2

    The First Order had potential to be more unique from the Galactic Empire, a meaner, leaner version, the marines to it's army. It could have felt like something that was a spiritual successor to the Imperials while at the same time being it's own thing.
    It wouldn't have been as powerful, but it could have done a good job with what it had. If Star Wars took notes from Mass Effect and Metro, the Resistance and last elements of the New Republic could have had their work cut out for them by not only having to deal with updated bite sized Empire, but also other factions, too. Think about how in Metro, the good guys had to deal with both the Reich and the Red Line, with some secret feudal illuminati faction controlling all the other factions from the shadows (as well as a nuclear wasteland haunted by mutants-Star Wars could be the leftovers of worlds terraformed by the Vong if grafted with legends, and possibly the FO deploying Death Wing Zombie virus on vulnerable planets). Also think about how in Mass Effect 3 you had to deal with the Reapers and Cerberus at the same time.
    The Resistance and New Republic wouldn't just be challenged by space nazis, but undermined by space commies doing an evil version of their values, coming full circle (think if the Dathomir Witches and Diversity Alliance from legends started gaining support). This revolutionary anti human and jedi sentiment would actually feed into people supporting or tolerating the First Order, and all factions would be manipulated from the shadows by a space Illuminati of sorts, possibly based in Canto Byte, perhaps guided by the spirit of Darth Plaguis.
    It also would have made it more unique if the Resistance actually tried to undermine the FO by doing rescue missions of the children they recruited so that they could save them before indoctrination. This would not only show that the Resistance was trying to be humane and ideal, but that it would adapt to the situation. There would be a lot of batman esque non lethal combat scenarios and tactics used to minimize under age trainees regarded as innocents.
    But the movies were rushed and they didn't give it wiggle room to grow and establish itself as different. Some of the books did, which is cool if you get to read them, but it would have been better if we saw it fleshed out in a TV series like the Clone wars.
    No, not Resistance. That was nothing but filler.

  • @pokemaster123ism
    @pokemaster123ism 4 роки тому +13

    Seriously, you guys should do a crossover with Eckharts ladder

  • @marco.castiglia
    @marco.castiglia 2 роки тому

    By matter of odds, characters that can be built up, Star Wars has an infinite narrative potential

  • @OK-yy6qz
    @OK-yy6qz 4 роки тому +5

    I think you're having too high regard of the First Order compared to the Empire
    They might improved on certain aspects going for a quality over Quantity Tactic since after all they were the Attackers but their sheer inability to succeed at anything makes it hard to believe they're actually led by competent technocrats and certain ships including the Dreadnought have severe flaws

  • @mikeknight42
    @mikeknight42 3 роки тому +2

    It would have been cool to have seen some more repurposed old droid technology. It seems like battle droids were better back even before the clone wars and people just stopped using them.

  • @chrisg4314
    @chrisg4314 4 роки тому +5

    Why do people dislike? They didn’t evolve in combat it seems

  • @mygamingexperience5989
    @mygamingexperience5989 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Alan from Generation Tech What if Darth Sidious kept making the clone army and kept recruiting citizens at the same to fight the Rebellion during the Galactic Civil War. Can you please make a video about it please.

  • @toddhoward1383
    @toddhoward1383 4 роки тому +3

    War, War Never Changes

  • @arandomsquidward7761
    @arandomsquidward7761 4 роки тому +1

    Zerg Rush, It always works!

  • @Dawnlighter
    @Dawnlighter 4 роки тому +6

    The First Order. Hmm. The remnants of a defeated empire that fled to an unexplored region of space, build up their forces, corrected what was wrong with their forces last time, then out of nowhere returned to known space and launched a sudden attack that caught- wait, I've heard this somewhere before... *peers at the Star Wars: The Old Republic box* hmmmm....

    • @canisarcani
      @canisarcani 4 роки тому

      disney cannot make their own content, they have to steal from others work and claim it as their own... disney canon is basically the sonic fandom on deviantart.. they literally just put a reskin or recolor on things and claim it as their own.

  • @blakeetter280
    @blakeetter280 3 роки тому +1

    death star actually had a huge advantage over starkiller base, well two but ones not certain. short one is that the deathstar didnt consume it power source completly, seeing as it was run on the mythical Kyber crystal (spell check?) and possibly some other fuel source it could be refilled, just stop off at a gas giant or something (bad pun). Starkiller base however feeds off a star and even completely consumed it in its activation that second time. I dont think the deathstar would ever have that problem and it really limits the usefulness to the first order if that super weapon they spent so much time on didnt work more than twice. like yeah maybe you wiped out your enemy but more will spawn.
    And the long one is that the deathstar can move. like starkiller base is stuck in one place, forever. it aint moving and its a planet, in star wars terms that can be majorly fucked with. plus its a distant weapon whereas the deathstar could loom over any planet it chose with minimum difficulty, because if you though a star destroyer was bad get ready to piss your pants. this actually gave it several advantages such as retreating or suddenly appearing to nuke a rebel planet into dust. Plus it could retreat if it was damaged and it was infinitely harder to infiltrate (not that han had any trouble) because the entire thing was a machine, that lightspeed trick never would have worked on the deathstar. star killer base did lack the core that was a trap in the deathstar but they still managed to make a planet vulnerable to a single X-Wing so, bad planning. The on planet shield was smart though and technically hyperspace would have bypassed it but it would be unlikely to actually reenter anywhere on the actual planet unless a droid is doing it, and even then star wars droids arent impressive like that. that was more than two but whatever, two main ones.

  • @fastbay
    @fastbay 4 роки тому +7

    Civil war, was based on both slavery an taxation. Also before the war slavery was slowly dieing out.

    • @jameskosusnik1102
      @jameskosusnik1102 4 роки тому

      That's what southern propaganda wants you to think literally 8 of states in the confederacy literally stated slavery in their articles of confederation... stop drinking the koolaid.

    • @jameskosusnik1102
      @jameskosusnik1102 4 роки тому +1

      @@triggerme6144 lol okay the north clearly shouldve treated the south like rome treated judea for their rebellion, the south committed treason.

    • @Southern_Crusader
      @Southern_Crusader 4 роки тому +1

      It was a arrogant undertone that is what helped galvanize more idealistic republicans against the confederacy. The war was really in the making for many years with tensions between the more industrialists north and The more agricultural south. The wealthier and more politically prominent southern rebels used the cause of States Rights to really gain support of the populace because like recent democrats, they feared Lincoln would just out law one of their key forms of income without say from the people there. The North fought under the banner of unity and preserving the union because before the war Lincoln actually stated he’d ease off on his anti slavery platform to hopefully avoid blood shed, but when they revealed regardless (remember tensions had been rising for decades), he eventually made it policy to outlaw slavery after Gettysburg so that European nations wouldn’t send over support to the South because they’d already out lawns it to a capacity there.
      The war was a mess of blood and personal grudges, that eventually helped resolve a lot of issues in our nation. Star Wars is simpler.

    • @Southern_Crusader
      @Southern_Crusader 4 роки тому

      While that would have been expected, Lincoln instead wanted to just reunite and focus on rebuilding. That’s why we also revere him, because his ability to look past grudges and try to do his duty to the people. It would have further divided the nation if he had done that, so by instead forgiving them he helped resolve tensions much faster.

    • @Halloyaw11
      @Halloyaw11 4 роки тому

      @@jameskosusnik1102 "Southern propaganda"? Typical fucking yankee.

  • @patrickchristine2661
    @patrickchristine2661 4 роки тому +2

    Is there any way that we could continue our Clone Wars history? I've waited a long time to hear the rest.

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant389 4 роки тому +87

    "Evolution"...don't you mean devolution?

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 4 роки тому +9

      Make sense.

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 4 роки тому +19

      It got worse with Disney

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому

      @@akumaking1 We don't see large scale combat you idiot 0_0

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому

      @Sightless_Seeker What good writing? SW writing was good for 70's, so?

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 4 роки тому +1

    Love your star wars content and star wars combat

  • @BlackaceXRogue360
    @BlackaceXRogue360 4 роки тому +3

    10:22 I think you mean TIE/LN, not “TIE/IN”

  • @bk8541
    @bk8541 4 роки тому

    A VERY FRESH AND UNIQUE WAY TO LOOK AT STAR WARS, AWESOME CHANNEL

  • @elitespartnops1149
    @elitespartnops1149 4 роки тому +6

    Thanos: War... it never changes
    Generation Tech: ACTUALLY

  • @GamerLoRd118516
    @GamerLoRd118516 4 роки тому +1

    Fun fact, the american civil war wasnt about slavery, Abraham said he wouldn't do it if he didn't have to, it was about the southern states declaring independence (if I got anything wrong about why the southern states declared war please tell me)

  • @pokemaster123ism
    @pokemaster123ism 4 роки тому +4

    0:39 so what you’re saying is... war has changed?

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +1

      Not in the principle...

  • @Morally_Reprehensible
    @Morally_Reprehensible 4 роки тому +1

    nice

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 4 роки тому +11

    How would weapons and vehicles from Planetside 2 compare to the weapons and vehicles from Halo like the BR rifle and Scorpion tank?

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 4 роки тому

      Planetside 2 vehicles are better than UNSC vehicles.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 4 роки тому

      @@nobleman9393
      Details about how it is please?

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 4 роки тому

      @@thorshammer7883 Let's compare Harasser to Warthog,
      Harasser has a better protected crew, the main armament is controlled from inside the vehicle, it can pass through force fields and repair itself (this requires additional modules) Harasser would also be faster than Warthog thanks to Turbo

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 4 роки тому

      @@nobleman9393
      Thanks for replying.
      But what about the UNSC Scorpion and Glizzy tanks against Planetside 2 tanks?
      Also the Pelican and other fighters against Planetside 2 aircraft would be interesting to see.

  • @crazyguy1mania537
    @crazyguy1mania537 4 роки тому +1

    There should be a video on Old Republic troopers vs. Old Republic sith warriors.

  • @TheEverseer
    @TheEverseer 4 роки тому +5

    So long and thank you for all the fish! Happy New Year to all the great peeps at Generation Tech! Oh...and Allan guessing you've not escaped from the Dolphins yet, so just threaten to turn them into cans of Tuna and see if that helps you escape their clutches hehe ;)

  • @BelRigh
    @BelRigh 2 роки тому

    There is a really kewl book trilogy by John Ringo (I believe) called Troy Rising which is a "prequel" to the Sluggy Freelance" webcomic....
    However in the books they build a "Deathstar" by burning off impurities from large Nickel/iron asteroids and then "inflating" it with boiling water....
    The overall size is 9km, with a 1km skin of pure Nickel/iron....

  • @user-rl3gc5ki1y
    @user-rl3gc5ki1y 4 роки тому +10

    I got the notification for this vid 4 minutes ago and their are some comments that are 4 hours old

  • @TheIndustrialRetrospective
    @TheIndustrialRetrospective 3 роки тому

    I caught that RKO there... 👍

  • @ShurikenSean
    @ShurikenSean 4 роки тому +3

    the first order strategists play D&D?
    no wonder they're more effective than the empire XD
    actually fits pretty well considering my friend in our star wars D&D who wants to reform the empire to be more effective and alot of what they're planning is the type of improvements the first order did. except he wants to use droids instead

    • @lordfrostwind3151
      @lordfrostwind3151 4 роки тому

      Raise them on a diet of Xcom and they'll be ready for any rebels. The only they're missing from mine is a lot more light ships.

  • @GarretGarlinger
    @GarretGarlinger 4 роки тому +1

    thanks! I enjoyed that!

  • @viperson9818
    @viperson9818 4 роки тому +6

    The first order doesn’t get enough credit for their strategy and planning. The resistance got too much credit, they basically didn’t do anything as a insurgent group. All they did was pleaded for help, the rebellion had to earn their allies.
    The resistance asked J.J. for an army and he gave them one, copy and pasted dozen more raddus like ships, medic frigates, ugly star fortresses.
    We ask ourselves how did the FO get so big, real question where did all of the resistance allies come from?

    • @forceman4795
      @forceman4795 4 роки тому +3

      viper Son blame ryan Johnson he basically said that the new republic immigrants folded and the navy was so small that it was all in one area it’s stupid

  • @codyconnor6981
    @codyconnor6981 4 роки тому

    The Civil War and Clone Wars have a lot more in common than you think Alan.

  • @rv_354
    @rv_354 4 роки тому +11

    Star Wars: 1,000 years are a lot of time
    Warhammer 40k: sure...

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +2

      It was between end of Old Republic and movies. Time frame is way longer.

    • @rv_354
      @rv_354 4 роки тому +4

      @@TheRezro ca. 1,005 years whilst in 40k theres next to no change in 10,000 years.
      It's just interesting how the different franchises deal with time

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому +2

      @@rv_354 Old republic was established in
      25,053 BBY. KotOR take place in 3956 BBY. What you reference is Ruusan Reformation what ended Old Republic and establish so called Great Peace (what was mostly a lie anyway).

    • @rv_354
      @rv_354 4 роки тому

      @@TheRezro as far as I know the Old Republic ended 1000 BBY and I thought he mostly talked about the time from it´s end to the clone wars

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 4 роки тому

      @@rv_354 And how that is relevant to the subject?

  • @mundaneallaround
    @mundaneallaround 3 роки тому

    Happy music comes on at 6:50 when talking about war criminals . Weird

  • @xavierbrock4126
    @xavierbrock4126 4 роки тому +4

    Hello Allen. I love you so much. I hope you're having a great day.

  • @Kalterkard
    @Kalterkard 2 роки тому

    16:30 I am dying.

  • @jacksonbean3578
    @jacksonbean3578 4 роки тому +4

    4:37 he does realize the American civil war started in the basis of unfair taxes and teriffs. Damn that got me fired up

  • @austingroce8020
    @austingroce8020 3 роки тому

    One thing i noticed you missed which is kinda the core of star wars combat,
    I believe a great old force user once said
    “He who wears the armor of plot, wins the day”

  • @KatrinaLeFaye
    @KatrinaLeFaye 4 роки тому +3

    The colors of your new studio rather make your skin tones look alien. Are you Alien? Humanity FIRST! Seriously though please check your lighting.

  • @WeboKonAroz
    @WeboKonAroz 3 роки тому

    Seeing Hux get RKO'd made my year.

  • @Seangalanti
    @Seangalanti 4 роки тому +3

    When the walls start speaking dolphin

  • @Hll_bast
    @Hll_bast 3 роки тому

    War never changes just means
    War is War

  • @reverencerx873
    @reverencerx873 4 роки тому +4

    The American civil war was about states rights, not slavery.

  • @spookyboi6175
    @spookyboi6175 4 роки тому

    The core of war never changes

  • @lordsaucyboi3450
    @lordsaucyboi3450 4 роки тому +11

    My friends called me a madman for saying that the empire was the good side, but then they rewatched/watched the movies... and saw that i was right

    • @jordann4686
      @jordann4686 4 роки тому +2

      HuntingSix2008 If you think about it. The Jedi were blind and didn’t want to move forward but stay in power.

    • @jitbrady7158
      @jitbrady7158 4 роки тому

      Dillon Brunschon Blew up one planet which was a terrorist breeding ground and was where the terrorists were being funded. They also “enslaved” terrorist fighters who would dare oppose the GREAT EMPIRE

  • @AsterionsLabyrith
    @AsterionsLabyrith 4 роки тому

    Great video appreciate the information really got me back into Star Wars favorite character Captain Rex to this day

  • @benwalker3068
    @benwalker3068 4 роки тому +4

    Basically, the troops become more incompetent each installment. (I haven't watched the video but I'm pretty sure the Empire and First Order would have lost to the Romans on the battlefield despite their superior technology.

  • @Jehtblu
    @Jehtblu 4 роки тому +2

    Lmao darkest moments they show Luke kissing Leia, greatest accomplishment they show Vader being created. Too funny.

  • @eccentricjoe5410
    @eccentricjoe5410 4 роки тому +4

    At least troopers nowadays dont run out like the clones in the battle of geonosis lol(clones did look cooler tho)

    • @lol-un6nl
      @lol-un6nl 4 роки тому +4

      But they ran out like that because the jedi generals were ordering them to

    • @Edward-oh2yn
      @Edward-oh2yn 4 роки тому +5

      Jedi Generals were ordering them to do so. Retarded monks leading military personnel. Clones, who delved deep into military tactics and protocol at Kamino's Military Facilities, must've been like "what the absolute fuck you dumb shits" in their heads, but good soldiers follow fucking orders.

  • @SuperShark28
    @SuperShark28 3 роки тому

    This is so well thought out and super interesting. Thanks for the amazing video!

  • @youjustsaid4863
    @youjustsaid4863 4 роки тому +4

    Taxation without representation....Clone Wars over similar premises to the American Revolution

  • @Dark-uq4uy
    @Dark-uq4uy 4 роки тому

    Combat may change but war, war never changes.

  • @kennytheprinny3012
    @kennytheprinny3012 4 роки тому +3

    It's funny that you called the New Order Evil, but is it really sure they do questionable things just like the Empire. Who many would come to see as corrupt but the same could be said for the Republic and I imagine the New Republic would eventually fall to the same corruption. My point is what's more evil a Empire the tries to enforce order on a Galaxy or a Republic that fails to provide even the basics of stability due to political infighting. For all the Empires problems at least they tried to help the greatest good by cracking down compared to Ideals that wanted to Help everyone and Ultimately fails in that responsibility.

    • @KaterKarlo001
      @KaterKarlo001 4 роки тому

      Well you forget the minor detail regarding using child slaves as sodiers, but who caaaaaares

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd 4 роки тому +1

    18:12 they also had cheat codes and could pull men an ships out of thin air.

    • @Cybernaut551
      @Cybernaut551 4 роки тому

      teleportation and hyperspace do the trick plus anything can happen in sci/fi as long as the author pleases.

    • @chrisyanover1777
      @chrisyanover1777 2 роки тому

      At 17:49 we get a deadly RKO out of nowhere on General Hux!

  • @kriegscommissarmccraw4205
    @kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 роки тому +11

    "The Jedi and Sith The fight between freedom and control"
    We all know the Jedi are space monk control freaks.
    Freedom in the Sith!

    • @Shattered0Platinum
      @Shattered0Platinum 4 роки тому +1

      Freedom for one and a half people is probably not the best defense of the empire

    • @kriegscommissarmccraw4205
      @kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 роки тому

      @@Shattered0Platinum Freedom in America! Means those who are in and of america, have freedom.
      Freedom in the Sith! The Siths empire, those who are in the empire have freedom,

    • @Shattered0Platinum
      @Shattered0Platinum 4 роки тому +1

      @@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 unless you're not human, a republican, or live on a planet with any sort of natural wealth; in which case you're probably either killed or enslaved. I appreciate your energy, reminds me of the Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake, but applying that sort of logic to a universe where it has been explicitly shown to in fact always lead to evil is just dumb

    • @kriegscommissarmccraw4205
      @kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 роки тому +1

      @@Shattered0Platinum It is not naivety to support the empire, every single time the rebellion had a chance, they threw it away. They never caused anything short of pain and banditry in the galaxy, every imperial citizen hates them, not even the true imperials as well the traders? They hated the rebellion the rebellion stole everything.
      The rebellion's main goal was peace? The Empire WAS peace. Not the lame demilitarized version the rebellion had, where a minor bit of combat was an emergency. The pirates that afflicted the galaxy for the empire? What pirates? You want to attack a planet stationed by a battleship?

    • @Shattered0Platinum
      @Shattered0Platinum 4 роки тому

      @@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 uhhh so what about the non-humans

  • @Sonof_DRN2004
    @Sonof_DRN2004 4 роки тому +2

    Imperial star destroyers are pretty much just space castles.

  • @Plastikdoom
    @Plastikdoom 4 роки тому +3

    Ehh, legends has the best, most epic combat, hands down, back in the old republic.

    • @raveshaw6161
      @raveshaw6161 4 роки тому +1

      well legends has also retarded moment especially in the galactic civil war and post RotJ time. Like the Empire pooping out Super Weapons left and right, Clone Palpatines and so on. One of the good things though was Thrawn.

    • @TheRaccoonGamer
      @TheRaccoonGamer 4 роки тому

      Imran those are legends though :) Star Wars legends are apart of another thing that isn’t considered canon

  • @juanj3442
    @juanj3442 4 роки тому

    War never changes