The Jedi built the iconic pillars in front of the entrances of the temple to prevent planes from flying through the doors ever again. That way any attempted invasion would have to be by foot. Something the Jedi could handle much more easily.
I'm so glad to see someone else saying that deserts are boring, i loved Naboo, Coruscant, etc, I'd love to see movies actually.. using those kinds of places again
@Randy Squeeze I would recommend Fallen Order. I've 100% completed it, and I really enjoyed it. I'd give it an 8/10. Kashyyk, the only forest world featured, is a little boring at times, particularly if you revisit it to pick up things you missed first time, but it has enough variety and looks good enough that boredom never lasts long. Each world is quite different. You explore a vast factory, a smaller factory and surrounding landscape, Kashyyk, a village/ Imperial digsite, Darth Maul's homeworld, and the icy Jedi Temple where the Kyber Crystals are found. There's plenty of variety, if that's what you're worried about. It also has the best lightsaber combat in any SW game to date, a story that is officially canon, and features an absolutly banging cantina song by the Mongolia power metal band The Hu.
I'm really getting tired of all the back water world's, for a franchise that has made literally billions off of everything it's presented, they act like they don't have money to pay for grand scenes...
Backwater worlds are the soul of Star Wars. The very first planet we see is a backwater. If it makes you feel any better, the prequels were almos entirely in the core.
@@duncanmcgee13 they really werent, naboo, tatooine, Mustafar geonosis, and all of the battles shown in rots were all not in the core. The only core world even shown was coruscant
We really have been spoiled by the games, exploring cities like Nar Shadda and Coruscant, going through the deep seas of Manaan, Jedi and Sith ruins on Korriban and Tython, we've been able to see worlds much more than the film's have often shown. I will say for all the flaws of the Prequels the worlds were beautiful and different.
Killer Joy Reminds of the Kingdom by Rome that didn't even bother having a defense as they always survived being conquered ny bribing their enemies including the leaders of Rome.
Paerigos what about changing Coruscant into a massive jungle, when it used to be a planet spanning city? Or moving it closer to the sun? Or giving it a planetary ring? That isn't the easiest thing to do.
Coruscant has a planetary shield, that is mentioned in the star wars clone wars, where the CIS send maintenance droids to detonate the shield generators and they also mention it during the Thrawn Crysis, where Thrawn sends cloaked ships to orbit under the shield and as the uncloaked invasion force arrives, the New Republic activates said shield. Then Thrawn fires the cloaked ships lasers linked to the uncloaked ships creating the illusion that the Coruscant Planetary shield is useless against Thrawn's forces.
The Thrawn putting ships under the shield thing was druing the battle of Uqio, not coruscant. But Thrawn targeted Coruscant by deploying a number of Cloaked asteroids to force the planetary shield to stay up to avoid asteroids crashing into the planet.
The building codes in Corescant much be brilliant considering that you have major buildings built on top of other buildings on top of other buildings going all the way down for 5000 levels. How do they enforce them?
Eventually so many buildings next to eachother end up supporting eachother. Spheres are structurally superior so it would be like a giant rubber band ball made out of buildings instead.
Even on Earth you can build on sand utilising concrete piles. So for a futuristic technological solution, perhaps Anti gravity technology. Speeders do it so why not buildings ? Imagine the foundation for each new level has no contact with what is below it. So instead of columns of concrete they instead use anti gravity. You wouldnt need much of a gap between these "Repulser Plates/Founds". Mere Microns of distance.
We always see floating platforms in Coruscant, maybe that's one way, also we don't know the composition of duracrete and durasteel, not to mention other building materials that could be found in thousands of different worlds with different sciences, it's an entire universe of mysteries
Just imagine the Star Wars sequel instead of showing us another remastered version of the original trilogy; the New Republic this time around has Luke as the Jedi temple grandmaster leading his apprentices into battle with First Order attacking Coruscant... How spectacular would that be.
@@judsonross6995 Personally for me. Im done with this whole era with the original characters. I love the era but for me its just starting to get stale. They are milking the skywalkers and its making them less interesting. I believe we need a new trilogy in a completely new era in history. Theres 100,000 years before the clone wars to highlight. Theres so much stuff during those periods that disney made non canon. I personally believe ALL of it is canon. Minus a few ridiculous god like moments. Give us the great hyperspace war in 5000bby, give us the great galactic war in 3000bby, or the fall of the sith empire and inevitable transition into the rule of two in 1000bby. Give us Revans story in movie form, Or we can go even further. Give us the Unification wars in 25,000bby after the fall of the rakata Infinite Empire, The first great schism in 20,000 bby and the formation of the first sith empire. the 100 year darkness and 2nd schism. Theres so much to do they dont need to make the skywalker era stale. Its fine where it is.
In canon the sith empire conquered corouscant for a longer period of time. The tarkin novel states that the jedi temple was built over an allready existing sith temple.
MattD hmmmm, is die in the hands of a pirate since the new republic can’t protect jack shit, and the empire will kill me unless I give them a reason to kill me, ngl, I’d take my chances with the empire, the new republic after the fall of the empire couldn’t manage jack, and since the new republic didn’t have the Jedi to do the peace keeping, the new republic had to rely on its heavy constricted militias which almost got fucked by the conflict between the criminal syndicates before the force awakens
The Vong managed to do it, and the CIS had the numbers to do it. I don't think it's impossible. Heck, if Malak was involved, he'd just bomb the city-world to Kingdom Come.
The vong won as the new republic wasnt ready for a vong invasion if they invaded during the empire when they had death star and the ssd they would have beeen destroyed by the empire
If the CIS had attacked coruscant at the peak of their power the republic wouldve been screwed, there would be a dozen battle droids for EVERY citizen on coruscant, it would just be completely ridiculous
@@gravytube4099 there is no reason to try and seize coruscant you just need to seize the supply worlds and you can starve it out without having to deal with the headache of trying to hold the citywide planet.
@@aikidodude05 i didnt mean it as they would ever need to, just if they REALLY had a good reason to go all out, but yea, its way better to just starve it out, even if all 6 major hyperlanes go right through it
The CIS attack to take the chancellor, was just part Palpatine's plan to make Anakin his apprentice with Count Dooku loosing the duel with Anakin because he was tricked by Palpatine into thinking that he would train Anakin and wait out the end of the war being imprisoned. In reality Palpatine had just set up Dooku's death to make room for Anakin.
If I'm not mistaken. The entry point where the ship crashed into the temple is the same that Anakin/Vader along with the 501st used to enter and massacare the people inside. Intresting that in RoTS we see those giant pilars before the doors and during sith attack those weren't there. My theory is that the Jedi installed those massive pilars after this incident to prevent a fking ship yeeting itself into the inner halls of the temple.
The Manarai Mountains were the one place on Coruscant that wasn't covered by the city. And Coruscant did have a planetary shield. Thrawn took advantage of that by releasing cloaks meteors around Coruscant, making them unable to lower the shields, effectively removing Coruscant from the war.
What really bugs me about Hosnian Prime being the capital is its lack of build-up before it's destroyed by the FO. We seriously only got a glimpse of it once in TFA and that's it. Not even in Resistance we got to see the surface nor any points of interest what is up with that?
This system was made in order to be destroyed. "-Hey, why can't i rent my apartment during more than 6 months? -Because the entire system will be destroy in 6 months by the First Order. -What? The entire system? I suppose destroying systems is hard. -No, really easy, barely an inconvenient. -Destroying planets is tight."
When I first saw TFA, I thought it was Coruscant that was blown up, and I was stunned for a few moments in the theater. As I was leaving I was ready to give the writers props for having the courage to blow it up, then I found out later I was someplace else entirely and I felt the emotional impact of the moment vanish
If you bothered to read the Aftermath trilogy, you would know that the capital planet of the New Republic was rotating and switched from planet to planet every few years
Read the Vong War during Legends canon - always liked how it ended, yes the Vong won the planet but they lost so much of their army, that it made it possible for Republic forces to ultimately win b/c the Vong lost a large % of their forces
Which is basically what happened to the C.I.S., too. The Seps spent a fuck ton of resources to pull that off, stripping one or more theaters of their forces to do so. This severely weakened them and, now that the GAR had new fleets and clones, the numerical disadvantage was no longer as crippling. Of course it was also because the war was fixed, but whatever.
The yu zong vong were essentially resisdents from outside the galaxy they didnt have any need or recognition of corusant which is hella crazy when you think about it they would of nuked corusant and sent the galaxy to the dark ages if they could
Many of the things you described would actually make it simpler to attack Coruscant. 1. Lack of Defenses and easily accessible. 2. Complete lack of stability or control by the local government over most of the planet. Meaning factions could easily collaborate invaders and would be generally unlikely to assist the government. 3. The economic aspect neglects the fact that it means the planet can be used to force a battle with enemy fleets as the Planet's defense is a nesscessity. The planets overpopulation and over-reliance on trade would be it wouldn't likely last long in a siege.
All of your videos and content are very good. But this one is shoulders above the rest. Just because this planet has a long history and you did a very good job of delving into the history of this planet at different times this was a very fun watch. Mostly after seeing the last movie which I did not plan to see because they listened to too many people online Downing at but then my son told me he seen it and love it so I went and seen it with a friend because we're both starward Star Wars nerds Marvel nerds anything comic book pretty much nerds/fans about it. And this video was awesome
Prince Otter Channel2 what the hell are you on about? Original poster is talking Duel of the Fates (the original name for Episode 9, not the Darth Maul fight song) concept art.
What are the logistics of Corescant? How much supplies were needed to be shipped in to keep it running, and how the hell did it have a breathable atmosphere with no plant life left to produce oxygen - did they have planet wide life support systems?
Yes. At this point, the whole planet was basically sustained by various weather and atmospheric systems for clearing pollution, puryfing air and keeping the climate sane and stable for the whole globe.
I guess at that point Coruscant can effectively be called an enormous semi-artificial space station with atmosphere, rather then "habitable planet" in its traditional meaning. It completely relies on giant clusterfuck of various life support systems throughout the whole surface, and if they once happen to fail for a considerable amount of time - planet will quickly become a poisoned and desolated mechanical wasteland, where no one could survive without at least some kind of isolation suit
@@nickcher7071 welll in legends they actually discovered ancient fuckoff thrusters on coruscants surface apparently put there by one of the super ancient galactic civilizations
The CIS were actually mainly successful because Palpatine gave the CIS secret hyperspace lanes that weren't protected by the Republic. If he didn't do that then nothing would've happened, they wouldn't have been capable of getting past the blockades throughout the interior/core.
"Why conquering Coruscant is strategically difficult" The Sith Empire and Darth Malgus: *Already did it. Conquered it, sacked it, and even played mind games with the republic*
where is Coruscant getting its oxygen from and how is it maintaining livable climate tho, there is no plant life, no ice, water must be highly poluted etc?
Coruscant is described as having numerous water and air purifiers as well as an extensive weather control system that allowed weather patterns to be manipulated on a planet wide scale. Most of the waste of these purifiers is said to be dumped in the lower levels of the planet making them uninhabitable.
Supposedly there's a lot of infrastructure that maintains it, oxygen plants, water processing facilities, I know in SWTOR part of the quests for Republic players is trying to repair the damage done by the Sith Empire's raid years before.
It wasn’t just coruscant that blew us away in the prequels, but the planet designs in general. Kamino, kashik, mustafar, utapaou, etc. (I may have spelt them wrong)
I think any planet with a population of over 1 trillion would basically be impossible to conquer. Unless your name is Vitiate. Then you have your boys just trash the planet and basically destroy the Jedi temple.
Well speaking as a soldier it's an urban warfare nightmare. It's a planet roughly the size of Earth and it's covered in a planet wide city that's miles deep from the tallest building to the surface not to mention the subterranean levels.
Legends Coruscant did have shields, multiple layers of them...it was a major plotpoint in several books. You also had the Golan stations defending it that predated the Clone Wars, and could match or surpass Star Destroyers in firepower. A good chunk of the planets moon was also military at different points.
On the topic of the Republic capitol, how about the republic vs earth, where its an alternate CIS vs. Earth timeline where they don't change ambassadors and Earth becomes one of the most powerful CIS worlds politically and logistically, but due to its location, its lightly defended.
A couple questions I have about Corsecant for any Star Wars gurus that can tell me, the 5,000 levels of Corsecant, were they all built underground and how did beings get down there? What kind of an elevator system did they have to get people there? How many miles or km deep were all 5,000 levels to the bottom? How tall were the cities tallest skyscrapers, how many miles or km did they extend upwards into the sky?
I remember a SW crossover with 40k and they actually discussed this issue. The Imperium had just defeated the defense fleet of a Separatist held ecumenopolis, the Separatist admiral being captured after his ship had been boarded taunted the Chapter Master of the Space Marines that he would never be able to occupy the planet before reinforcements arrived. The Chapter Master simply replied "Occupy?" and then ordered an Exterminatus on the planet due to the near logistical impossibility to invade one.
The Sith Empire just secured Space ports and Government buildings, they had no care for the locals, But Malgus said (and failed) in his words to the Jedi Master (6:08) "It will all Burn" All ship leaving and entering the space area and destoryed, besides an Imperial supply ship and 2 ships by order of Malgus.
The sacking of courasant was actually a massive gamble. They could not win that battle as Courasant had so many security and military forces that eventually they would get widdled down. They also couldn't hold the space around the planet as the republic could call on any reinforcements they wanted. Their only hope was that the planet would convince the republic to give in to their demands and that they would be let go. If the Senators had held on and just stalled the Empire they would have had many of their best fighting units destroyed since they were stuck right in republic territory with little hope of reinforcements and the whole republic military bearing down on them.
It’s ironic how the Coruscanti got some payback from the original Mandalorians, the Taung, through Jango and his Clones via Order 66 and the Galactic Empire’s up rising. They say grudges can last a long time.
I'm honestly not a fan of Coruscant. Well, I'm a fan of the idea, and I'd want the series and characters to go visit there, but I'd hate to live there, or even visit. I love the outdoors, I love nature, and I feel like Coruscant would be my nightmare. There's no 'nature' to go into, and all of the animals are more horrifying than anything we have on Earth. If I can't even like visiting New York, the closest equivalent I've ever visited, then there's no way in hell I'd ever like to go visit Coruscant. Literally the only reason why I'd visit there is to explore the deeper levels because why not, and even then, I know that won't end out well.
Conquering Coruscant would be simple. All you need is space superiority. If you control the space lanes, with an embargo Coruscant will collapse on itself and will be forced to surrender. No need for a ground assault.
May I perhaps introduce Holy Terra from The 40K universe; an Ecumenopolis that is the Home of an entire Battlefleet to defend it and the Moon is literally known as Fortress Luna.
The opening scene in Revenge of the Sith, hanging in space over Coruscant, was very disorienting. I've never been subject to motion sickness or vertigo but that made me dizzy. Plus just drums beating right after the opening crawl, setting the mood for a fight without distraction, was a great show of restraint producing a greater emotional effect.
It would be actually incredibly easy to take coruscant. Coruscant is predominantly a major importer of all basic necessities. It lacks the farmland necessary to sustain itself. Using a combination of thrawns cloaked asteroids and rapid flex fleets you could blockade coruscant relatively quickly. The primary objective would be to split up coruscants main defensive fleet. Using blockades you could apply slow and steady pressure, forcing their fleet out and to respond. Their would probably be some retainer left behind, so you'd move a series of raider fleets into coruscant to pull the remaining defenders before bringing in large numbers of cloaked asteroids. Like a minefield you'd want to bait the main fleet back in and you'd want them to either jump into that invisible asteroid field or force them into a position where they have to go threw it. Either way without basic food stuffs, coruscant could be forced to surrender threw indirect siege. Minimize losses and force coruscanti civilians to take up arms to end the blockade.
so. Generation Tech. i am curious. we all know your opinion on Xenos and the like. but what about Near-human species like Zabraks and Twileks. or Abhuman races like Ratlings and Ogryns. are they as detestable as the Xenos? or could they perhaps find a place within the greater whole of humanity?
1:23-1:29 what are you talking about? If you're implying Coruscant was destroyed by the First Order in that scene you might want to know that was the Hosnian system (most commonly known planet as Hosnian Prime). If not please let me know I am confused what your implying?
So to conquer Coruscant, you have to take it without actually attacking it. Military assault is pointless unless you just want to kill everything, and blow it off.
Since it's just one big cit it would be very dependent on outside supplies so that would be it's Achille's heal. I'd just barricade the planet maybe wrap it in a reverse version of a planetary defense field,put interdictors on the hyperspace lanes and wait a few weeks.
Never forget the true weakness of a planet like this. The capitol of the galactic empire from the Foundation Trilogy also thought it was invincible for the same reason. Once the empire fell apart and they were no longer able to import food or the countless other supplies they needed, the city almost litteraly devoured itself. A few decades later the children of the survivors were getting rich.... By carving up the countless skyscrapers and selling the steel as scrap.
"No planetary shield?" Was that explicitly retconned from Legends? Because Zahn's Thrawn trilogy made a major plot point out of him (seemingly) bypassing Coruscant's shield.
I love the fact lower level coruscant is so wild and lawless it's like entering a d&d dungeon. Complete with man eating rats
Going to the lower layers is a death wish pretty much
roll d20 to survive 3 minutes
And eat eating men
Eventually you may find chaos cultists
Coruscant is basically london in the victorian area
Clone Commander: DEFEND THE CITY!
Clone: bruh, the whole planet is city.
Clone: Sir, which city?
Clone Commander: Sector is clear.
Clone: Sir the whole city is a sector, not clear! Not clear.
Conquering Coruscant: Difficult.
Palpatine: maybe take over from within?
Palpatine: I love democracy
Who would win?
One extra thicc and stronk shield
Or one wrinkly and completely trustworthy boi?
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Damnit, wrong wrinkly old dude!
The Jedi built the iconic pillars in front of the entrances of the temple to prevent planes from flying through the doors ever again. That way any attempted invasion would have to be by foot. Something the Jedi could handle much more easily.
*Cue Anakin marching with the clones*
Lmao
I'm so glad to see someone else saying that deserts are boring, i loved Naboo, Coruscant, etc, I'd love to see movies actually.. using those kinds of places again
Justin McCoy um that make no sense but ok
@Randy Squeeze I would recommend Fallen Order. I've 100% completed it, and I really enjoyed it. I'd give it an 8/10.
Kashyyk, the only forest world featured, is a little boring at times, particularly if you revisit it to pick up things you missed first time, but it has enough variety and looks good enough that boredom never lasts long.
Each world is quite different. You explore a vast factory, a smaller factory and surrounding landscape, Kashyyk, a village/ Imperial digsite, Darth Maul's homeworld, and the icy Jedi Temple where the Kyber Crystals are found.
There's plenty of variety, if that's what you're worried about. It also has the best lightsaber combat in any SW game to date, a story that is officially canon, and features an absolutly banging cantina song by the Mongolia power metal band The Hu.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human, that sounds absolutely dope.
i love the city planets too i was sad to see hosnian prime get wiped off the star maps by the first order.
The black sandy planet from rogue one is cool.
I'm really getting tired of all the back water world's, for a franchise that has made literally billions off of everything it's presented, they act like they don't have money to pay for grand scenes...
Backwater worlds are the soul of Star Wars. The very first planet we see is a backwater. If it makes you feel any better, the prequels were almos entirely in the core.
@@duncanmcgee13 they really werent, naboo, tatooine, Mustafar geonosis, and all of the battles shown in rots were all not in the core. The only core world even shown was coruscant
We really have been spoiled by the games, exploring cities like Nar Shadda and Coruscant, going through the deep seas of Manaan, Jedi and Sith ruins on Korriban and Tython, we've been able to see worlds much more than the film's have often shown. I will say for all the flaws of the Prequels the worlds were beautiful and different.
@@Julian-pw5mv Naboo is pretty close to the core, NGL.
@@11Survivor naboo is almost in the outer rim... it's not even close to the core
Achievement Earned:
*Too Rich to Conquer*
To huge to hold
Killer Joy Reminds of the Kingdom by Rome that didn't even bother having a defense as they always survived being conquered ny bribing their enemies including the leaders of Rome.
*_BATMAN!_*
Coruscant: *exists*
most people and races: Coruscant can't be conquered.
the Yuuzhan Vong: It's free real estate. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Prince Otter Channel2 what do you mean, no? The Vong literally stomped the defences and Vongformed it inside of a week.
@@mitthrawnuruodo3632 Well cracking one of the moons and bombarding planet with rocks is quite easy :D
True
This is why the Vong were horribly written, badly designed enemies
Paerigos what about changing Coruscant into a massive jungle, when it used to be a planet spanning city? Or moving it closer to the sun? Or giving it a planetary ring? That isn't the easiest thing to do.
Coruscant has a planetary shield, that is mentioned in the star wars clone wars, where the CIS send maintenance droids to detonate the shield generators and they also mention it during the Thrawn Crysis, where Thrawn sends cloaked ships to orbit under the shield and as the uncloaked invasion force arrives, the New Republic activates said shield. Then Thrawn fires the cloaked ships lasers linked to the uncloaked ships creating the illusion that the Coruscant Planetary shield is useless against Thrawn's forces.
The Thrawn putting ships under the shield thing was druing the battle of Uqio, not coruscant. But Thrawn targeted Coruscant by deploying a number of Cloaked asteroids to force the planetary shield to stay up to avoid asteroids crashing into the planet.
@@gustavbonow5416 I guess i need to read the old Thrawn Trilogy again :)
@@Ptaaruonn you should. I should too.
Close but no thrown never got cloaks under the consent shield
its really easy, actually. ya just have to take all the control points in the jedi temple and hold them for 20 seconds, and or kill all the enemies.
damn jedi guards
@@WatcherKoops4677 oh no, not knightfall. where the damn jedi knights literally fall from the ceeling
Silver Fox Delta spawn kill!
@@silverfoxdelta290 lol.
Or just capture all of the command posts.
The building codes in Corescant much be brilliant considering that you have major buildings built on top of other buildings on top of other buildings going all the way down for 5000 levels.
How do they enforce them?
Eventually so many buildings next to eachother end up supporting eachother. Spheres are structurally superior so it would be like a giant rubber band ball made out of buildings instead.
Prayers and 2x4's, friend, prayers and 2x4's. And some flex seal for good measure.
Even on Earth you can build on sand utilising concrete piles.
So for a futuristic technological solution, perhaps Anti gravity technology. Speeders do it so why not buildings ?
Imagine the foundation for each new level has no contact with what is below it. So instead of columns of concrete they instead use anti gravity.
You wouldnt need much of a gap between these "Repulser Plates/Founds". Mere Microns of distance.
@Prince Otter Channel2 And also all sorts of horrible monsters
We always see floating platforms in Coruscant, maybe that's one way, also we don't know the composition of duracrete and durasteel, not to mention other building materials that could be found in thousands of different worlds with different sciences, it's an entire universe of mysteries
Just imagine the Star Wars sequel instead of showing us another remastered version of the original trilogy; the New Republic this time around has Luke as the Jedi temple grandmaster leading his apprentices into battle with First Order attacking Coruscant... How spectacular would that be.
I would love to see a series of stories about the years between episode six and seven.
@@judsonross6995 Personally for me. Im done with this whole era with the original characters. I love the era but for me its just starting to get stale. They are milking the skywalkers and its making them less interesting. I believe we need a new trilogy in a completely new era in history. Theres 100,000 years before the clone wars to highlight. Theres so much stuff during those periods that disney made non canon. I personally believe ALL of it is canon. Minus a few ridiculous god like moments. Give us the great hyperspace war in 5000bby, give us the great galactic war in 3000bby, or the fall of the sith empire and inevitable transition into the rule of two in 1000bby. Give us Revans story in movie form, Or we can go even further. Give us the Unification wars in 25,000bby after the fall of the rakata Infinite Empire, The first great schism in 20,000 bby and the formation of the first sith empire. the 100 year darkness and 2nd schism. Theres so much to do they dont need to make the skywalker era stale. Its fine where it is.
@@judsonross6995 it's called the Mandalorian lol
Then Disney just..pooped out "the whatever that was" trilogy.
In canon the sith empire conquered corouscant for a longer period of time. The tarkin novel states that the jedi temple was built over an allready existing sith temple.
Or in non canon (Canon to me) Darth Malgus and his invasion of Coruscant that left the jedi temple laid to rubble and most senators dead.
Coruscant: can't be conquered
Darth Malgus: hold my lightsaber
The old republic needs a movie series. Theres so much history there. Im sick of the skywalker era. They are making it stale.
@@TalyTea As much as the old republic needs a series, they need to keep Kennedy far, far, far away from it.
@@shaydowsith348 Indeed
Don't forget about General Purple Hair's solution for destroying anything city sized.
Hyperspace Ramming, the true peanut strategy.
Which begs the question. What's worse, living under an evil empire or under an incompetent new republic?
@@mattd2026 between the two, I'd rather take my chances in the care of Tusken Raider camp.
MattD hmmmm, is die in the hands of a pirate since the new republic can’t protect jack shit, and the empire will kill me unless I give them a reason to kill me, ngl, I’d take my chances with the empire, the new republic after the fall of the empire couldn’t manage jack, and since the new republic didn’t have the Jedi to do the peace keeping, the new republic had to rely on its heavy constricted militias which almost got fucked by the conflict between the criminal syndicates before the force awakens
I swear if the new republic decides to demilitarize AGAIN, after the events of the rise of skywalker, I will literally support any imperial remnant
@@heybeter9505
Amen to that.
Basically, why conquering Coruscant is strategically impossible.
well thats the thing you don't conquer coruscant you conquer its supply worlds and drive the population to revolt and surrender.
Doesn't need to be conquered if its pummeled into submission.
*laughs in High Gothic*
Horrible4 brother
T Spoon The mandalorians of the old republic could do it
Or why the Darth Malak method is far more preferable when dealing with enemy city-worlds if they don't surrender.
The Vong managed to do it, and the CIS had the numbers to do it. I don't think it's impossible. Heck, if Malak was involved, he'd just bomb the city-world to Kingdom Come.
The vong won as the new republic wasnt ready for a vong invasion if they invaded during the empire when they had death star and the ssd they would have beeen destroyed by the empire
@@josh-kg1rb the new republic was also slow in their response to the initial invasion of the vong.
If the CIS had attacked coruscant at the peak of their power the republic wouldve been screwed, there would be a dozen battle droids for EVERY citizen on coruscant, it would just be completely ridiculous
@@gravytube4099 there is no reason to try and seize coruscant you just need to seize the supply worlds and you can starve it out without having to deal with the headache of trying to hold the citywide planet.
@@aikidodude05 i didnt mean it as they would ever need to, just if they REALLY had a good reason to go all out, but yea, its way better to just starve it out, even if all 6 major hyperlanes go right through it
The only reason the separatists were able to attack Coruscant was because they knew Commander Thorn wasn’t alive to defend it
And because there head of state was telling the other sides heads of military what to do
Fox is piece of shit
CT-5597 Jesse truer words have never been spoken...
@@CT-Jesse-nv2wi fox gets a lot of unnecessary hate
The CIS attack to take the chancellor, was just part Palpatine's plan to make Anakin his apprentice with Count Dooku loosing the duel with Anakin because he was tricked by Palpatine into thinking that he would train Anakin and wait out the end of the war being imprisoned. In reality Palpatine had just set up Dooku's death to make room for Anakin.
Coruscant during a war would be a planet sized Stalingrad.
Demo_the _man you just made every single German cry
@@riddlemethat4911 No you don't, and I'm happy that this time is no more
“A group of sith warriors managed to sneak into the Jedi temple”
Shows ship ramming straight through a wall.
yeah man they were just so quite entering which is weird because the doors were suppose to be locked
For a Sith, that's pretty subtle.
If I'm not mistaken. The entry point where the ship crashed into the temple is the same that Anakin/Vader along with the 501st used to enter and massacare the people inside. Intresting that in RoTS we see those giant pilars before the doors and during sith attack those weren't there. My theory is that the Jedi installed those massive pilars after this incident to prevent a fking ship yeeting itself into the inner halls of the temple.
What Series lr game is this scene?
@@generaldurchbruchmuller It's a trailer for Star Wars The Old Republic. Bioware's SW mmo.
The Manarai Mountains were the one place on Coruscant that wasn't covered by the city. And Coruscant did have a planetary shield. Thrawn took advantage of that by releasing cloaks meteors around Coruscant, making them unable to lower the shields, effectively removing Coruscant from the war.
What really bugs me about Hosnian Prime being the capital is its lack of build-up before it's destroyed by the FO. We seriously only got a glimpse of it once in TFA and that's it. Not even in Resistance we got to see the surface nor any points of interest what is up with that?
This system was made in order to be destroyed.
"-Hey, why can't i rent my apartment during more than 6 months?
-Because the entire system will be destroy in 6 months by the First Order.
-What? The entire system? I suppose destroying systems is hard.
-No, really easy, barely an inconvenient.
-Destroying planets is tight."
@@Viguier89 lol
When I first saw TFA, I thought it was Coruscant that was blown up, and I was stunned for a few moments in the theater. As I was leaving I was ready to give the writers props for having the courage to blow it up, then I found out later I was someplace else entirely and I felt the emotional impact of the moment vanish
If you bothered to read the Aftermath trilogy, you would know that the capital planet of the New Republic was rotating and switched from planet to planet every few years
@@startrekker4596 Same, i was like "Did they just destroyed Coruscant and killed 1000 billions people just like that? And no one care?!"
Read the Vong War during Legends canon - always liked how it ended, yes the Vong won the planet but they lost so much of their army, that it made it possible for Republic forces to ultimately win b/c the Vong lost a large % of their forces
I thought they won cos Jacen got all happy fun time with the World Brain ;)
Which is basically what happened to the C.I.S., too. The Seps spent a fuck ton of resources to pull that off, stripping one or more theaters of their forces to do so. This severely weakened them and, now that the GAR had new fleets and clones, the numerical disadvantage was no longer as crippling.
Of course it was also because the war was fixed, but whatever.
The yu zong vong were essentially resisdents from outside the galaxy they didnt have any need or recognition of corusant which is hella crazy when you think about it they would of nuked corusant and sent the galaxy to the dark ages if they could
Coruscant is still hands down the coolest element that came out of the prequel films.
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Many of the things you described would actually make it simpler to attack Coruscant.
1. Lack of Defenses and easily accessible.
2. Complete lack of stability or control by the local government over most of the planet. Meaning factions could easily collaborate invaders and would be generally unlikely to assist the government.
3. The economic aspect neglects the fact that it means the planet can be used to force a battle with enemy fleets as the Planet's defense is a nesscessity. The planets overpopulation and over-reliance on trade would be it wouldn't likely last long in a siege.
All of your videos and content are very good. But this one is shoulders above the rest. Just because this planet has a long history and you did a very good job of delving into the history of this planet at different times this was a very fun watch. Mostly after seeing the last movie which I did not plan to see because they listened to too many people online Downing at but then my son told me he seen it and love it so I went and seen it with a friend because we're both starward Star Wars nerds Marvel nerds anything comic book pretty much nerds/fans about it. And this video was awesome
Coruscant is my favorite planet in Star Wars! I so look forward to us seeing more of it!
You missed one:
The way to take back Corescant is via Mad Max modded Chicken Walkers, being led by Finn.
@Prince Otter Channel2 fake battlefront?
Prince Otter Channel2 what the hell are you on about? Original poster is talking Duel of the Fates (the original name for Episode 9, not the Darth Maul fight song) concept art.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
What are the logistics of Corescant?
How much supplies were needed to be shipped in to keep it running, and how the hell did it have a breathable atmosphere with no plant life left to produce oxygen - did they have planet wide life support systems?
Yes. At this point, the whole planet was basically sustained by various weather and atmospheric systems for clearing pollution, puryfing air and keeping the climate sane and stable for the whole globe.
A shit ton and yes
I guess at that point Coruscant can effectively be called an enormous semi-artificial space station with atmosphere, rather then "habitable planet" in its traditional meaning. It completely relies on giant clusterfuck of various life support systems throughout the whole surface, and if they once happen to fail for a considerable amount of time - planet will quickly become a poisoned and desolated mechanical wasteland, where no one could survive without at least some kind of isolation suit
@@nickcher7071 welll in legends they actually discovered ancient fuckoff thrusters on coruscants surface apparently put there by one of the super ancient galactic civilizations
YES for the first time i hear u pronounce it correctly Notron 1:55 and not like u did previously Norton - always made me think about graham norton.
Han Solo:Never tell me the odds
Gah! at 7:32 you missed a golden opportunity for the "What is going on down there?" clip from Phantom Menace!
The CIS were actually mainly successful because Palpatine gave the CIS secret hyperspace lanes that weren't protected by the Republic. If he didn't do that then nothing would've happened, they wouldn't have been capable of getting past the blockades throughout the interior/core.
"Why conquering Coruscant is strategically difficult"
The Sith Empire and Darth Malgus: *Already did it. Conquered it, sacked it, and even played mind games with the republic*
where is Coruscant getting its oxygen from and how is it maintaining livable climate tho, there is no plant life, no ice, water must be highly poluted etc?
Janis Stradins never thought about that
An explanation we shall never recieve.
space magic
Coruscant is described as having numerous water and air purifiers as well as an extensive weather control system that allowed weather patterns to be manipulated on a planet wide scale. Most of the waste of these purifiers is said to be dumped in the lower levels of the planet making them uninhabitable.
Supposedly there's a lot of infrastructure that maintains it, oxygen plants, water processing facilities, I know in SWTOR part of the quests for Republic players is trying to repair the damage done by the Sith Empire's raid years before.
Coruscant didn’t get destroyed in Ep7
That was the Hosnian system
Ken Kaneki I was looking for someone else to say this lol
Okay we all have to appreciate that Emperor Palpy was a strategist genius
It wasn’t just coruscant that blew us away in the prequels, but the planet designs in general. Kamino, kashik, mustafar, utapaou, etc. (I may have spelt them wrong)
I think any planet with a population of over 1 trillion would basically be impossible to conquer. Unless your name is Vitiate. Then you have your boys just trash the planet and basically destroy the Jedi temple.
Me and the boys.x
Or just be like Malak and nuke it to death
Well speaking as a soldier it's an urban warfare nightmare. It's a planet roughly the size of Earth and it's covered in a planet wide city that's miles deep from the tallest building to the surface not to mention the subterranean levels.
@@aaronsanborn4291 Good thing is you would not have to go down to the lowest levels of the city since they are uninhabited and uninhabitable.
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Clone trooper: Bruh.
Great video Generation Tech
Will it be difficult taking over coruscant and starting an empire?
Palpatine: actually it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience
Legends Coruscant did have shields, multiple layers of them...it was a major plotpoint in several books. You also had the Golan stations defending it that predated the Clone Wars, and could match or surpass Star Destroyers in firepower. A good chunk of the planets moon was also military at different points.
Why doesn't Coruscant have it's own shipyard surrounding it (like Kuat and Mon Cala)?
Derek Clinton It has many smaller shipyards.
Remember when Malgus and a legion of sith busted through the Jedi temple during the first Galactic war? Good times
Love the content
another great vid thanks alan
On the topic of the Republic capitol, how about the republic vs earth, where its an alternate CIS vs. Earth timeline where they don't change ambassadors and Earth becomes one of the most powerful CIS worlds politically and logistically, but due to its location, its lightly defended.
I think “strategically impossible” is more fitting
Your planet will make a fine addition to my collection!
A couple questions I have about Corsecant for any Star Wars gurus that can tell me, the 5,000 levels of Corsecant, were they all built underground and how did beings get down there? What kind of an elevator system did they have to get people there? How many miles or km deep were all 5,000 levels to the bottom? How tall were the cities tallest skyscrapers, how many miles or km did they extend upwards into the sky?
I remember a SW crossover with 40k and they actually discussed this issue.
The Imperium had just defeated the defense fleet of a Separatist held ecumenopolis, the Separatist admiral being captured after his ship had been boarded taunted the Chapter Master of the Space Marines that he would never be able to occupy the planet before reinforcements arrived. The Chapter Master simply replied "Occupy?" and then ordered an Exterminatus on the planet due to the near logistical impossibility to invade one.
Sweet, definitely an interesting history of Trantor!
The Sith Empire just secured Space ports and Government buildings, they had no care for the locals, But Malgus said (and failed) in his words to the Jedi Master (6:08) "It will all Burn" All ship leaving and entering the space area and destoryed, besides an Imperial supply ship and 2 ships by order of Malgus.
9:03-9:10 when you’re trying to hold the command post by your selfXD
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The sacking of courasant was actually a massive gamble. They could not win that battle as Courasant had so many security and military forces that eventually they would get widdled down. They also couldn't hold the space around the planet as the republic could call on any reinforcements they wanted.
Their only hope was that the planet would convince the republic to give in to their demands and that they would be let go.
If the Senators had held on and just stalled the Empire they would have had many of their best fighting units destroyed since they were stuck right in republic territory with little hope of reinforcements and the whole republic military bearing down on them.
Would be cool with a detective type video game set in the Coruscant underworld.
It’s ironic how the Coruscanti got some payback from the original Mandalorians, the Taung, through Jango and his Clones via Order 66 and the Galactic Empire’s up rising. They say grudges can last a long time.
I'm honestly not a fan of Coruscant. Well, I'm a fan of the idea, and I'd want the series and characters to go visit there, but I'd hate to live there, or even visit. I love the outdoors, I love nature, and I feel like Coruscant would be my nightmare. There's no 'nature' to go into, and all of the animals are more horrifying than anything we have on Earth. If I can't even like visiting New York, the closest equivalent I've ever visited, then there's no way in hell I'd ever like to go visit Coruscant. Literally the only reason why I'd visit there is to explore the deeper levels because why not, and even then, I know that won't end out well.
Conquering Coruscant would be simple. All you need is space superiority. If you control the space lanes, with an embargo Coruscant will collapse on itself and will be forced to surrender.
No need for a ground assault.
Well, you see...
Imagine trying to take a city. But the city is an entire planet.
Coruscant had two planetary shields that could be partially raised and lowered in segments.
Is this inspired from those leaked ep. 9 pictures?
Aka. Wasted potential
@@xxvaltielxx1789 yup.
May I perhaps introduce Holy Terra from The 40K universe; an Ecumenopolis that is the Home of an entire Battlefleet to defend it and the Moon is literally known as Fortress Luna.
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@@LucasN0015 it frankly is
Lmao
Emperor: Burn the Galaxy!
Officer: What about Coruscant?
Emperor: Are you crazy Jeff?!? Get out!!
The opening scene in Revenge of the Sith, hanging in space over Coruscant, was very disorienting. I've never been subject to motion sickness or vertigo but that made me dizzy. Plus just drums beating right after the opening crawl, setting the mood for a fight without distraction, was a great show of restraint producing a greater emotional effect.
It would be actually incredibly easy to take coruscant. Coruscant is predominantly a major importer of all basic necessities. It lacks the farmland necessary to sustain itself. Using a combination of thrawns cloaked asteroids and rapid flex fleets you could blockade coruscant relatively quickly. The primary objective would be to split up coruscants main defensive fleet. Using blockades you could apply slow and steady pressure, forcing their fleet out and to respond. Their would probably be some retainer left behind, so you'd move a series of raider fleets into coruscant to pull the remaining defenders before bringing in large numbers of cloaked asteroids. Like a minefield you'd want to bait the main fleet back in and you'd want them to either jump into that invisible asteroid field or force them into a position where they have to go threw it. Either way without basic food stuffs, coruscant could be forced to surrender threw indirect siege. Minimize losses and force coruscanti civilians to take up arms to end the blockade.
Coruscant is still around after Force Awakens. The capital was moved by that point and Coruscant was not hit by Starkiller base.
Mannn I love how the zel (idk if that’s the spelling) are pictured as the Greybeards from Skyrim
Damn, now I really want a star wars bounty hunter game where you trudge through the underbelly of coruscant uprooting gangs and criminal warlords.
Also a population count is very difficult because it's such a cosmopolitain place. Thousands of people come in and out every day.
That shot from 1313 makes me REALLY wish they hadnt killed that game v.v
Its just insane they cancelled that game.
I wanna see Naboo again too it's criminally underused
5:04 what star destroyer - type ship is that?
Invaders "We come to take over this puny planet!"
Coruscant "Oh, really now, good luck, see you on Tuesday!"
great vid as ever. may i suggest teh music for this video was not the best choice, but that's my taste not a critic.
so. Generation Tech. i am curious. we all know your opinion on Xenos and the like. but what about Near-human species like Zabraks and Twileks. or Abhuman races like Ratlings and Ogryns. are they as detestable as the Xenos? or could they perhaps find a place within the greater whole of humanity?
Please stand still. It's like you're on a rocking boat. My anxiety forced me to leave mid video.
Seriously enough of desert worlds
Can we please go somewhere like Coruscant, or Naboo, or even Felucia in the next Star Wars show or movie please
1:23-1:29 what are you talking about? If you're implying Coruscant was destroyed by the First Order in that scene you might want to know that was the Hosnian system (most commonly known planet as Hosnian Prime). If not please let me know I am confused what your implying?
>Talks about predecessors to humans
>Shows the Greybeards from TES: Skyrim
Yeah it checks out
Conquering and exerting control over the surface is a challenge. Doing the same with the 5,126 levels beneath it is hell!
Coruscant is a MOUT nightmare. You have an entire planet covered in a miles deep city
Think I saw the Greybeards in there. By Ysmir's mighty beard!
You should do a video on the Supremacy vs the Executor AND Eclipse....or two "super star destroyers" as the beloved Admiral Fishface said.
an old republic show would be great
So to conquer Coruscant, you have to take it without actually attacking it. Military assault is pointless unless you just want to kill everything, and blow it off.
Not to mention that the vast majority of the population wouldn't take kindly to getting invaded
Um, I'm pretty sure Coruscant did have a Planetary shield. It was just normally off because of the trade issue.
Courscant:
Thousands of innocent people get massacred by a giant death laser: I sleep
Sandwiches aren't in stock at the supermart: EVERYBODY RIOT
Since it's just one big cit it would be very dependent on outside supplies so that would be it's Achille's heal.
I'd just barricade the planet maybe wrap it in a reverse version of a planetary defense field,put interdictors on the hyperspace lanes and wait a few weeks.
Never forget the true weakness of a planet like this. The capitol of the galactic empire from the Foundation Trilogy also thought it was invincible for the same reason. Once the empire fell apart and they were no longer able to import food or the countless other supplies they needed, the city almost litteraly devoured itself. A few decades later the children of the survivors were getting rich.... By carving up the countless skyscrapers and selling the steel as scrap.
So cool!
"No planetary shield?" Was that explicitly retconned from Legends? Because Zahn's Thrawn trilogy made a major plot point out of him (seemingly) bypassing Coruscant's shield.