Here's an idea for a video: *what would happen if the SCP multiverse declared war on ALL other multiverses(star wars, lord of the rings, team fortress 2, halo, h.p lovecraft, creepypasta, etc.) What would happen and who would win?*
I remember this one battle from the old EU Clone Wars comics..... this group of Padawans were basically abandoned on a planet full of Separatists. Their forces were all but depleted, and sending reinforcements just wasn't an option, it was too risky to try and get more forces there. So all of the Padawans left behind, they all fought til the end, and died. Anakin was actually among this group, but he got conveniently called away by Palpatine... (so that his future apprentice wouldn't be killed in battle lol)
@@reaperking7748 Yep. The Separatist forces there got a special shipment of assassin droids, the Padawans destroyed a lot of them, but more came and killed the rest of the Padawans.
Does robot also count as child soldier? They are like maybe a few days old to a few years old. (Edit:I am referring to the Separatists Droid, Clone Soldier are not a few days old to a few years despite excelerated cloning but Droid are.)
@@Underworlddream a clone is not a robot they are people flesh and blood they have personality’s all the way from a crazy deranged explosion victim to waxer and boil they are people and they were slaves so basically your condoning slavery
@@flamebreaker7318 No, I was saying how Robot aka the Separatists Droids are also sentient, with their own personality, and are made to be soldier to fight a war that they have no say in it. Im pointing to in irony that they themselves are also slaves child solider much like the clones. So instead of you trying to ask for me to clarify you instead launch a personal attack saying I'm pro slavery.
Far as military roles, I'd consider the Jedi a more, advisory role, like the Chaplains of the Adeptus Astartes. Capable of doing combat yes, but primarily a morale and spiritual position to support their men.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket That is what they are doing yes, though they should not. They should be as I had stated, a support role akin to Space Marine Chaplains
But a good leader always leads from the front, which is why Anakin was so well loved by his troops, the Jedi should have not been involved at all with the war if they wished to protect their philosophy and children. The fact they bent their philosophy at all is why they failed because only the strong would survive
Medieval Knights brought their Squires with them on the field of battle, just like the Jedi with their Padawans. Not only for combat experience, training etc. but to see if those Squires would in fact have the mettle to become full fledged Knights. Those who disappointed could be Squires for the rest of their lives. The Jedi bringing their Padawans is similar in all respects. Some Squires were as young as 12, most of the Padawans at least seemed older than 12 years of age. Also, if a Padawan could not handle it, they'd move them to that Auxiliary Corps the Jedi had, that helped rebuild, and accomplish public works, agriculture projects, etc. They're pretty similar.
I understand what you mean, but medieval Moral standards would not be my go to source. I believe that bringing children in mortal danger knowingly is never justified.
@@vennb1137 well duh but when war is your job that kinda happens. We might think badly but when you need shit done theres not many other options. Child soilders have always been a thing. Children also work even in America theres tons of kids who've worked from the time they could walk
@@vennb1137 Except, they weren't Children. Generally yer an adult at 14 to 16 years of age. Many would be married by those same ages as well, since many wouldn't live past 40 years of age.
@@steelshanks1265 just a knit pick - the 40 years is an average, anyone who lived passed childhood (12-14) could anticipate 60-80 years of life. The huge number of childhood deaths due to disease, illness and environmental dangers (some with teeth). But they married early by our standards to maximize child bearing years, to have sufficient children to ensure at least one child would survive to adulthood. Darwinist drive to ensure the survival of ones DNA.
They should explore the PTSD of Ashoka in he TV show. She was exposed to battlefields at 14, saw friends die, sacrifice, had to kill some lifeforms herself. One more thing that always shocked me is that when Ashoka goes with Padme to the Separatist Parliament, she is fully indoctrinated in propaganda. She thinks all speratists are evil and completly dehumanized the enemy. That is something very dangerous for a Jedi to do, as it is thier connection to life and respect of it, that tethers them to the Light side. SOme masters might fall for this but children are especially vulnerable to propaganda and manicheanism.
I think about a Padawan playing and talking to one of his/her close clone friend happily. As they go off some distance the clone gets the order and looks in sadness knowing what he'll have to do. He goes close to them and the Padawan turns around with a smile and then with a sad confused look. The clone pulls good pistol out and he says "I'm sorry" and pulls the trigger. Padawan dies and the clone walks away taking off his helmet with a tear coming down his face.
So the simplify this, the Jedi Masters cannot leave their Padawans alone because in less than five minutes, they will cause a bunch of messes without their supervisions.
I read about a medieval battle, a ten year old prince was present on a battle field, the general in command was killed in action, the ten year old prince took assumed command and he actually won the battle. Lol
@@Cooldude-ko7ps well after the general died moral was about to collapse and the army was about to break and run , he rallied the reserves and lead a charge and everyone followed him . He had several knights escorting him . A childs bravery inspired or shamed the men into fighting harder.
Unfortunately. Obi Wan was the only one that had combat experience against a sith at that point. No one from the previous war was still alive to support either side of the argument. I think Qui Gon being killed by Darth Maul was part of Palpatine's plan because of how much of a skeptic he was.
i find it important to point out, in the colosseum there was a very lacking clone presence and jedi went into battle on open fields with melee weapons as the frontline.
I mean……. 1000 years without an actual factual war will do that to a peace loving cult of space wizards with laser swords. In the earliest days if the civil war, people actually watched the battle… they had little idea what the new age of combat would look like and some members of the populace thought it fun to see a jolly good scrappy! Honestly, it’s a miracle they can fight at all. Think it like WW1, a world so shocked by the new nature of war, that every country turned a blind eye as an entire generation of boys, some as young as 12, marched off to fight a war of an unforeseen magnitude. A sacrifice some would say could have been avoided and others thought was necessary; the Jedi saw themselves as making a sacrifice for the galaxy and its people for the most part, in their secular view, the padawans would do much the same for some greater good.
There should probably be a separation of those who train padawans and knights. No reason the one training the padawans and the ones going out on dangerous missions need to be the same people.
But in theory, a Jedi should only have one Padawan at a time. If the Jedi with Padawans can’t go on missions, that seriously limits the number of Jedi available to go on missions. In fact, to sustain the number of Jedi at around 10,000 in total over the centuries, only a small minority of Jedi would be available to go on missions, as around 80% of them would be training Padawans.
@@timonsolus Keep in mind that not all Jedi would even have the skill set to go on missions. Jedi like Jocasta Nu, or any of the thousands of Jedi who weren't very powerful or just weren't cut out for physical combat. Out of those 80% you mention, how many of those would fall into this category? It's far more likely that out of thousands of Jedi, only several hundred would go into combat situations.
@@Backwoods_Squatch : Actually, nearly all Jedi would be going into combat situations, even in peacetime. The Jedi were the ‘special forces’ of the Republic, fighting against armed criminal gangs and local rebel militias.
@@timonsolus Negative. Allen has done several videos about this kind of thing. Few Younglings are chosen to be Padawans. Fewer Padawans become Knights. Only a select few become Masters, as we all know. Either they arent particularly powerful or they just didnt or couldnt develop the skills sets for combat. Just because you study a martial art, doesnt mean you will be any good at it in an actual fight. There were always far, far more Jedi who weren't suited for combat.
@@Backwoods_Squatch : Some Jedi might focus on non combat skills, but any Padawan can handle an untrained thug with a blaster pistol. Thugs are only a threat to Jedi when the Jedi is either badly outnumbered or (rarely) taken by surprise.
I think it also boils down to the idea that you can really only learn so much in a controlled situation where the teacher can step in an stop things when the student is in danger but really the only way for a jedi to properly learn how to fight and our negotiation skills is in real life out side the protection and control of the classroom so in away the Jedi did the right thing giving the young ones real life practice at a young age
Damn, remember 4 years ago when this channel used to push over 100k views regularly? The content is still great and he’s as likeable as ever so what happened?
Been said befor but technically speaking with their accelerated aging the clones were really more like 9 years old they had the bodies and physical capabilities of adults but the same years of experience, also in a similar situation of specialized training from birth to the padawan, their only adulthood being their physical attributes which a padawans "super powers" far exceeded. so its was really a whole army of children.
Actually, Obi-Wan filled Depa Billaba's seat (Billaba would later take Even Piell's seat before handing it down to Stass Allie). Kit Fisto was given Trebor's seat.
If only he wasn’t so in to those big ass super weapons. We can talk about chosen ones all we want, super weapons of their own design is the top way to kill a Sith.
Gotta hand it to them where due though. SOME Jedi showed to be EXCELLENT an VERY competent COs apparently some you just don't screw with alone or at the head of their own small army. Padawans following Masters ANYWHERE.. think Sideous knew the Jedi an how they operated quite well. An he could use their own philosophy to expertly manipulate most of them in VERY unexpected an subtle ways an NEVER need even be anywhere near MOST of them vast majority of the time
A lot of jedi trained for combat more just because it was part of the cariculum than for actually wanting to be capable. Unlike jedi like plo koon that specialized in it.
I thought it more like Star Wars in many ways like a medieval society with high tech stuff, like medieval society regularly had kids fighting in war because that they way thing was, only recently with modern society that we decided to put a age limited on solder.
If the kids are expected to be military leader, then they should train them more. Their masters can go out and fight, but the padawans would stay at the temple. After a year of military tactics and lightsaber training, then they can go out and rejoin their masters. Like a squire, a padawan's life is full of danger; however, war is a whole new animal. Sending out a bunch of powerful wizard children will do no good if they do not know what they are doing.
A emotionally distant order of warrior monks using children as soon as they are able is a normal thing from their point of view. We are just looking at it from an earthly mindset.
How do you define "child" in a universe of extremely varied longevities and maturation rates? And the two may not have any relation to the other, nor may they have any relation to actual learning speed. The only thing I can think is each padawan is measured on their emotional maturity. Of course saying that, I think the Jedi failed too often with various individuals, and probably needed a far better system
so never have child. birth is dangerous, feeding is dangerous, drinking is dangerous, walking is dangerous, cars are dangerous, planes are dangerous, boats are dangerous, vending machines are dangerous, medicine could be dangerous.
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I was under the impression that the Jedi participated on the War because previous Jedi, Dooku, made Jedi look bad in the eyes of the public. Jedi will try to fix that and get control of the military just in case if what Dooku said about the Sith controlling the senate was true. They are more politically involved and it prevents the Senate (that might be controlled by the Sith) from having control of the central military. As for padawans being involved is not a problem, the problem is that there should be an age restriction. They were promoting younglings too soon. Of course the mentorship and training is left to the master, Anakin love being in the frontlines is mostly what we see. But I’m sure other Masters didn’t allow their padawans in the frontlines. The younger padawans were usually in strong republic outposts with their masters. It just happens that they were targets for the tragedies that happened. The best action was not giving ranks to Padawans unless they were of age to join military as Republic law mandates.
Hey I have a legitimate question that I’ve never actually seen anyone ask. I get Palpatine’s order 66 and destroying all the Jedi, but what about the parents who sent their children to the Jedi for training, why don’t we hear outcry from the parents of the younglings killed at the temple. Because even if I had sent my kid to become a Jedi I’d be horrified and furious to hear that clone troopers gunned down literal children and either plot revenge or start a protest.
Take a wild quess they kept their mouths shut. All jedi (including the younglings) were charged with high treason against the republic. Anyone that showed a possible connection to them or showed public support for the jedi would be hunted down and executed or imprisoned for life.
Even with everything Ukraine is going through to stop the russians, they still have a age limit of 18 for their soldiers. I can't see why the Republic and the Jedi didn't do the same. Though in the "Dune" universe, child warriors were common and the "Fremen" were religious warriors, some with mystical powers, like the Jedi.
@@shadowslayer9988 honestly TCW really seems to underpower padawans. Likem they can still use the forxe to push undreds of pounds of stuff around if they really want to.
During the war between Iran and Iraq Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields. Pol Pot used child soldiers in Cambodia. So this is not just something that happened back in medieval times in the real world.
I think had the Jedi had had the time they could have trained the teens better for combat. Sense the didn't have the time I would go with the out maneuvering side. The Jedi as a whole were not ready for the war and the teens even less so.
The Jedi council realizing they can just raise their soldier and make them think they don't need money or other things so that the republic doesn't have to pay them
I always figured Padawans were going to fight alongside their masters, and there wasn't much thought about it. Star Wars aesthetic and setting is a Sci-Fi combination of Wild West, Medieval chivalry, World War 2, Kung Fu movies, and in later books modern political thriller. When I was a kid before the prequel era, I assumed Jedi apprentices were like western Squires, and would be teenagers serving alongside whoever was training them, basically officially recognized sidekicks. I didn't think of "child soldier" morality being a problem because well, knights bring squires to battle with them. TLDR: Star Wars is a hodgepodge of genres with different moralities and to an audience of smart 8-10 year olds, the word Knight (and a hyperfixation on Castles and a few nonfiction books) would make a lot of the audience guess that it was totally chill for apprentice warriors to follow their mentors into battle.
@@AmericanImperium1776 Different species might mature at different rates. That said, heads of state and Jedis would probably be exempt. Truth is, the writers just don't think about it.
The part that gets me, in the extended universe you learn Yoda knew what was going to happen with order 66. As wise and Powerful as he was, he should have been able to at least save the Younglings and some of the padawans. He could have had them all scattered across the Galaxy before Order 66 took effect. The older Jedi might have deserved their fate. But in my opinion The Young Ones could have learned a new way.
🤔 . . . Personally, & its technically part of my education reformation, I honestly believe that kids, assessed no younger that five (5) years of age, should have their training towards their Potential Careers as soon as possible. Thus, from tenth (10) grade, about fifteen (15) to sixteen (16) years of age, they’ll get hands on experiences with the various vehicles, such as planes, trains, ships, trucks, busses, helicopters, tanks, & more until they graduate twelfth (12) grade at around the age of eighteen (18). Even before their hands on high school, they would’ve also received a lot of prep training in middle school, especially in swimming, parachuting, et cetera. Thus, I honestly don’t believe its wrong for Padawans to get involved, but I would heavily regulate & control what their roles & duties are based on how far their training has come & what skill sets could be most beneficial. The youngest would likely run various supply missions & watch/observe from the back & coordinate the forces as needed. The mids would likely be rear guard & battlefield cleanup, ensuring the wounded are treated, civilians are evacuated, & any pockets & potential threats behind the front line(s) are dealt with. The more advanced & mature are likely going to be put on the forefront, right where their masters are…
Padawan: Lowest rank in the jedi order. Full jedi in every sense of the word. Just lacking experiance. War kills people. Shocking i know. Jedi are still people and died too. I think it was a case of must rather then want. Sure they could have stayed out of the war and let the republic be conquered(And betray all the stand for in the progress) Or they deal the hand they where dealt. It sucks but you can not stop training padawans just because there is a war going on. If anything they too have to leatned how to deal with the unexpected war. Better learn how to control themself then let the lose themself to battle. Also i am 90% sure that early in the war all padawans send to wat where 18+ But constant losses kinda forces you to do think you dont like to win. But as you pointed out several times the jedi simple wherent ready for war. A 1000 years of peace does that to people.
Sir I know this may sound in relevant to you but. The only thing I can think of is the scene in the Matrix when the General told the boy he was too young to fight. Then the boy said the machines will kill me no matter how old I am. Then the General said "Damn right" and let him reload his GunBot ! 👁️ "Just saying"
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Here's an idea for a video: *what would happen if the SCP multiverse declared war on ALL other multiverses(star wars, lord of the rings, team fortress 2, halo, h.p lovecraft, creepypasta, etc.) What would happen and who would win?*
I remember this one battle from the old EU Clone Wars comics..... this group of Padawans were basically abandoned on a planet full of Separatists. Their forces were all but depleted, and sending reinforcements just wasn't an option, it was too risky to try and get more forces there. So all of the Padawans left behind, they all fought til the end, and died. Anakin was actually among this group, but he got conveniently called away by Palpatine... (so that his future apprentice wouldn't be killed in battle lol)
Jabiim? I remember firebombing that world in Empire at War. I suppose Anakin got his vengeance.
@@HolyknightVader999 Yep, I believe that's the one lol. I think the planet is also slated to appear in the upcoming Kenobi series too.
@@roger632 That sounds awesome.
Weren't all those Padawans picked off by Assassin Droids during the chaos?
@@reaperking7748 Yep. The Separatist forces there got a special shipment of assassin droids, the Padawans destroyed a lot of them, but more came and killed the rest of the Padawans.
"In my book, experience outranks everything." - Captain Rex
A literal child: Let’s dive bomb the battlefield, that sounds cool. Lol
@@maverickhughes5010 Broooo
Please flip to page 66
@@maverickhughes5010 Don't you mean, "Let's dive bomb the battlefield, that's a cool trick."
says another child soldier
They’re not child soldiers, they’re “gaining world experience.”
Setting em up for success early XD.
This sounds like an actual excuse Russia would make if they resorted to child soldiers to fight in their “special military operation”.
That’s a joke right
@@geoffreydellar109 yes, that’s why the quotes are there
Or if you are a fan of Calvin & Hobbs... "it builds character."
I mean when you think about it, the Clone Troopers are technically Child Soldiers
Yea they're only like 8 or 9 years old which is a big oof
Does robot also count as child soldier? They are like maybe a few days old to a few years old.
(Edit:I am referring to the Separatists Droid, Clone Soldier are not a few days old to a few years despite excelerated cloning but Droid are.)
You know too much...
@@Underworlddream a clone is not a robot they are people flesh and blood they have personality’s all the way from a crazy deranged explosion victim to waxer and boil they are people and they were slaves so basically your condoning slavery
@@flamebreaker7318 No, I was saying how Robot aka the Separatists Droids are also sentient, with their own personality, and are made to be soldier to fight a war that they have no say in it. Im pointing to in irony that they themselves are also slaves child solider much like the clones. So instead of you trying to ask for me to clarify you instead launch a personal attack saying I'm pro slavery.
Far as military roles, I'd consider the Jedi a more, advisory role, like the Chaplains of the Adeptus Astartes. Capable of doing combat yes, but primarily a morale and spiritual position to support their men.
YOU SPEAK THE EMPORERS TRUTH!
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket That is what they are doing yes, though they should not. They should be as I had stated, a support role akin to Space Marine Chaplains
But a good leader always leads from the front, which is why Anakin was so well loved by his troops, the Jedi should have not been involved at all with the war if they wished to protect their philosophy and children. The fact they bent their philosophy at all is why they failed because only the strong would survive
Praise the Emperor's Wisdom...
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket that’s what they do that doesn’t mean it’s what they are supposed to do
Medieval Knights brought their Squires with them on the field of battle, just like the Jedi with their Padawans. Not only for combat experience, training etc. but to see if those Squires would in fact have the mettle to become full fledged Knights. Those who disappointed could be Squires for the rest of their lives. The Jedi bringing their Padawans is similar in all respects. Some Squires were as young as 12, most of the Padawans at least seemed older than 12 years of age. Also, if a Padawan could not handle it, they'd move them to that Auxiliary Corps the Jedi had, that helped rebuild, and accomplish public works, agriculture projects, etc. They're pretty similar.
I understand what you mean, but medieval Moral standards would not be my go to source. I believe that bringing children in mortal danger knowingly is never justified.
@@vennb1137 well duh but when war is your job that kinda happens. We might think badly but when you need shit done theres not many other options. Child soilders have always been a thing. Children also work even in America theres tons of kids who've worked from the time they could walk
@@vennb1137 Except, they weren't Children. Generally yer an adult at 14 to 16 years of age. Many would be married by those same ages as well, since many wouldn't live past 40 years of age.
@@vennb1137 so bringing a child near electricity, cars, on a plane or boat, near a vending machine, in stores, or near medicine is wrong?
@@steelshanks1265 just a knit pick - the 40 years is an average, anyone who lived passed childhood (12-14) could anticipate 60-80 years of life. The huge number of childhood deaths due to disease, illness and environmental dangers (some with teeth).
But they married early by our standards to maximize child bearing years, to have sufficient children to ensure at least one child would survive to adulthood.
Darwinist drive to ensure the survival of ones DNA.
"How old do you have to be to pull a trigger? Kids make great soldiers. They barely know what fear is." -Nick Rostu
They should explore the PTSD of Ashoka in he TV show. She was exposed to battlefields at 14, saw friends die, sacrifice, had to kill some lifeforms herself. One more thing that always shocked me is that when Ashoka goes with Padme to the Separatist Parliament, she is fully indoctrinated in propaganda. She thinks all speratists are evil and completly dehumanized the enemy. That is something very dangerous for a Jedi to do, as it is thier connection to life and respect of it, that tethers them to the Light side. SOme masters might fall for this but children are especially vulnerable to propaganda and manicheanism.
no.
You are very correct and that’s why they had an age limit because it’s a lot harder to kidnap and indoctrinate an adult to such a bs cause of morality
I think about a Padawan playing and talking to one of his/her close clone friend happily. As they go off some distance the clone gets the order and looks in sadness knowing what he'll have to do. He goes close to them and the Padawan turns around with a smile and then with a sad confused look. The clone pulls good pistol out and he says "I'm sorry" and pulls the trigger. Padawan dies and the clone walks away taking off his helmet with a tear coming down his face.
So the simplify this, the Jedi Masters cannot leave their Padawans alone because in less than five minutes, they will cause a bunch of messes without their supervisions.
True, just look at Anakin.
@@Underworlddream "Well, you know Master, I couldn't find a speeder I really liked, with an open cockpit and the right speed capabilities."
I read about a medieval battle, a ten year old prince was present on a battle field, the general in command was killed in action, the ten year old prince took assumed command and he actually won the battle. Lol
How?
@@Cooldude-ko7ps well after the general died moral was about to collapse and the army was about to break and run , he rallied the reserves and lead a charge and everyone followed him . He had several knights escorting him . A childs bravery inspired or shamed the men into fighting harder.
@@shanenolan8252 oh ok
@Peters6221 nah, probably the scottish because scotland was the only place that existed in the medieval times
It went very fast from being near 20 years old and not being ready for the trials to off you go to war in your early teens.
Unfortunately. Obi Wan was the only one that had combat experience against a sith at that point. No one from the previous war was still alive to support either side of the argument. I think Qui Gon being killed by Darth Maul was part of Palpatine's plan because of how much of a skeptic he was.
Or Palps could’ve said “a surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one.” with Qui-Gon’s death.
@@lewatoaofair2522 especially since that’s what pushed Dooku over the edge and made him leave the Jedi
i find it important to point out, in the colosseum there was a very lacking clone presence and jedi went into battle on open fields with melee weapons as the frontline.
Melee weapoms thay can deflect the enemies projectiles back at them.
@@robertharris6092 cant deflect something that is bigger than a lightsaber though.
not effective vs the "tanks" of the clankers, only the smallarms.
@@robertharris6092 They can deflect a couple of blasters, but can they deflect few dozens at once?
I mean……. 1000 years without an actual factual war will do that to a peace loving cult of space wizards with laser swords. In the earliest days if the civil war, people actually watched the battle… they had little idea what the new age of combat would look like and some members of the populace thought it fun to see a jolly good scrappy! Honestly, it’s a miracle they can fight at all. Think it like WW1, a world so shocked by the new nature of war, that every country turned a blind eye as an entire generation of boys, some as young as 12, marched off to fight a war of an unforeseen magnitude. A sacrifice some would say could have been avoided and others thought was necessary; the Jedi saw themselves as making a sacrifice for the galaxy and its people for the most part, in their secular view, the padawans would do much the same for some greater good.
There should probably be a separation of those who train padawans and knights. No reason the one training the padawans and the ones going out on dangerous missions need to be the same people.
But in theory, a Jedi should only have one Padawan at a time. If the Jedi with Padawans can’t go on missions, that seriously limits the number of Jedi available to go on missions. In fact, to sustain the number of Jedi at around 10,000 in total over the centuries, only a small minority of Jedi would be available to go on missions, as around 80% of them would be training Padawans.
@@timonsolus Keep in mind that not all Jedi would even have the skill set to go on missions. Jedi like Jocasta Nu, or any of the thousands of Jedi who weren't very powerful or just weren't cut out for physical combat. Out of those 80% you mention, how many of those would fall into this category? It's far more likely that out of thousands of Jedi, only several hundred would go into combat situations.
@@Backwoods_Squatch : Actually, nearly all Jedi would be going into combat situations, even in peacetime. The Jedi were the ‘special forces’ of the Republic, fighting against armed criminal gangs and local rebel militias.
@@timonsolus Negative. Allen has done several videos about this kind of thing. Few Younglings are chosen to be Padawans. Fewer Padawans become Knights. Only a select few become Masters, as we all know. Either they arent particularly powerful or they just didnt or couldnt develop the skills sets for combat. Just because you study a martial art, doesnt mean you will be any good at it in an actual fight. There were always far, far more Jedi who weren't suited for combat.
@@Backwoods_Squatch : Some Jedi might focus on non combat skills, but any Padawan can handle an untrained thug with a blaster pistol. Thugs are only a threat to Jedi when the Jedi is either badly outnumbered or (rarely) taken by surprise.
The Jedi brought not just the men, but the women, and the children too. The Separatists are animals, and they slaughtered them like animals!
Agreed. That's another reason I have major trust issues with the Sepertests.
also the elderly 800 yr olds
I think it also boils down to the idea that you can really only learn so much in a controlled situation where the teacher can step in an stop things when the student is in danger but really the only way for a jedi to properly learn how to fight and our negotiation skills is in real life out side the protection and control of the classroom so in away the Jedi did the right thing giving the young ones real life practice at a young age
“The Republic seems to be running out of Jedi.” (Activates lightsaber)
Ahsoka, “He’s just another tinny boys. Let’s scrap him like the rest.”
0:25 Careful Alan, your Imperium is showing
2:29 Palpatine: "All according to keikaku."
Jedi: Experience is the best teacher.
*kid gets legs blown off"
Jedi: Well I guess i learned something today. Never bring a child to a battlefield.
He can get Droid legs...
He learned how to get super cool super robot legs.
kid can just dont be stupid and not blow up
That kid learned to not walk on land mines
kids get MAULED
*Because they are immortal.*
-Every Skyrim Player Ever
i really want to beat the shit out of braith yet i cannot
That thumbnail is everything XD
Yoda: A calculated risk, it was. Terrible at math, I am.
Damn, remember 4 years ago when this channel used to push over 100k views regularly?
The content is still great and he’s as likeable as ever so what happened?
Wow Palps really did love his child soldiers first the clones who were technically 9 when the war broke out and now the Padawans
Been said befor but technically speaking with their accelerated aging the clones were really more like 9 years old they had the bodies and physical capabilities of adults but the same years of experience, also in a similar situation of specialized training from birth to the padawan, their only adulthood being their physical attributes which a padawans "super powers" far exceeded. so its was really a whole army of children.
*“Youngling, defend burger town!”*
“It will be done master!”
Small children can get into small places
And turn into even smaller pieces. Easier for clean up
They also have smaller hitboxes
Actually, Obi-Wan filled Depa Billaba's seat (Billaba would later take Even Piell's seat before handing it down to Stass Allie). Kit Fisto was given Trebor's seat.
Jaro Tapal was awesome in Jedi Fallen Order.
Palpatine was a genius. Totally evil, but also a total genius.
If only he wasn’t so in to those big ass super weapons. We can talk about chosen ones all we want, super weapons of their own design is the top way to kill a Sith.
The best way to gain experience is to be “hands on” with it.
this is a amazing piece of content right here. informative, direct, entertaining, and the pacing of the video is perfect. 10/10
"Padawan Ramirez, take out that star destroyer"
I am never this early, you should discuss the in-cannon chiss ascendancy and their politics :)
Seconded.
This is a great idea
love your video's keep up the great work
For the same reasons everyone else uses childs as soldiers: they're small targets, harder to hit.
Casset ammunition, thermobaric bombs, napalm: "loughts at laud"
Man that’s what I was saying
An interesting wee story would be Palps opposing senate motions or officers like Tarkin pushing for underage padawans removed from the battlefield.
No real world references of child soldiers or clips from Beasts of No Nation in this vid, call me surprised.
Gotta hand it to them where due though. SOME Jedi showed to be EXCELLENT an VERY competent COs apparently some you just don't screw with alone or at the head of their own small army.
Padawans following Masters ANYWHERE.. think Sideous knew the Jedi an how they operated quite well. An he could use their own philosophy to expertly manipulate most of them in VERY unexpected an subtle ways an NEVER need even be anywhere near MOST of them vast majority of the time
A lot of jedi trained for combat more just because it was part of the cariculum than for actually wanting to be capable. Unlike jedi like plo koon that specialized in it.
I thought it more like Star Wars in many ways like a medieval society with high tech stuff, like medieval society regularly had kids fighting in war because that they way thing was, only recently with modern society that we decided to put a age limited on solder.
To the audience the Clone Troopers technically are children due to the accelerate growth.
6:18 Yay thank you for referencing Galactic Battlegrounds, that game doesn't get enough mentions imo. Great vid GenTech.
Last time I was this early alderaan still had a Senate seat.
If the kids are expected to be military leader, then they should train them more. Their masters can go out and fight, but the padawans would stay at the temple. After a year of military tactics and lightsaber training, then they can go out and rejoin their masters. Like a squire, a padawan's life is full of danger; however, war is a whole new animal. Sending out a bunch of powerful wizard children will do no good if they do not know what they are doing.
A emotionally distant order of warrior monks using children as soon as they are able is a normal thing from their point of view. We are just looking at it from an earthly mindset.
What was the movie you showed a clip of when you mentioned that the Jedi were warrior monks @4:40?
The Jedi are powerleveling their Padawans is why they were OK with child soldiering. Got to make more Knights some how.
How do you define "child" in a universe of extremely varied longevities and maturation rates? And the two may not have any relation to the other, nor may they have any relation to actual learning speed. The only thing I can think is each padawan is measured on their emotional maturity. Of course saying that, I think the Jedi failed too often with various individuals, and probably needed a far better system
ever race has there own maturity rate. So its different for each race. Tho I would assume most of them are around the same.
@@CoolMyron yeah. But grogus a child yet is over 50 years old. And has memorys and thus experience as such.
If i was a Jedi, I wouldn't be your conventional Jedi. Sending kids into a life and death situation is irresponsible. Its a sign of bad 'parenting.'
so never have child. birth is dangerous, feeding is dangerous, drinking is dangerous, walking is dangerous, cars are dangerous, planes are dangerous, boats are dangerous, vending machines are dangerous, medicine could be dangerous.
How can you justify turning an innocent force useing child into a potential murderer?
Truly wonderful the mind of a child .
Well that’s quite simple.
Kids are cruel
And the jedi were very in touch with they're iner child
red sun, red sun over paradise
golden rays of the glorious sunshine, shedding down such a blood red light
now the animals slowly retreat to the shadows, out of sight
arid breeze blows across the mountains, giving flight to the birds of prey
in the distance machines come to transform eden, day by day
only love is with us bow
something warm and pure
find the peace within ourselves
no need for a cure
when the wind is slow and the fire’s hot
the vulture waits to see what rots
oh how pretty, all the scenery
this is nature’s sacrifice!
when the air blows through with a brisk attack
a reptile tail ripped from it’s back
when the sun sets, we will not forget
the red sun over paradise!
I was under the impression that the Jedi participated on the War because previous Jedi, Dooku, made Jedi look bad in the eyes of the public. Jedi will try to fix that and get control of the military just in case if what Dooku said about the Sith controlling the senate was true. They are more politically involved and it prevents the Senate (that might be controlled by the Sith) from having control of the central military.
As for padawans being involved is not a problem, the problem is that there should be an age restriction. They were promoting younglings too soon. Of course the mentorship and training is left to the master, Anakin love being in the frontlines is mostly what we see. But I’m sure other Masters didn’t allow their padawans in the frontlines. The younger padawans were usually in strong republic outposts with their masters. It just happens that they were targets for the tragedies that happened.
The best action was not giving ranks to Padawans unless they were of age to join military as Republic law mandates.
I think that you mean "younglings". What's a cheddren/children/whatever? Asking for a Star Wars friend.
Glad yer sound got better over time.
Good episode!!!!
Lmao that thumbnail
It not ".. kind of cruel to put kids in these kind of situations". It is cruel full stop, Gen Tech hit the nail on the head.
Hey I have a legitimate question that I’ve never actually seen anyone ask. I get Palpatine’s order 66 and destroying all the Jedi, but what about the parents who sent their children to the Jedi for training, why don’t we hear outcry from the parents of the younglings killed at the temple. Because even if I had sent my kid to become a Jedi I’d be horrified and furious to hear that clone troopers gunned down literal children and either plot revenge or start a protest.
Take a wild quess they kept their mouths shut. All jedi (including the younglings) were charged with high treason against the republic. Anyone that showed a possible connection to them or showed public support for the jedi would be hunted down and executed or imprisoned for life.
They were probably silenced.
Even with everything Ukraine is going through to stop the russians, they still have a age limit of 18 for their soldiers. I can't see why the Republic and the Jedi didn't do the same. Though in the "Dune" universe, child warriors were common and the "Fremen" were religious warriors, some with mystical powers, like the Jedi.
Well a padawan could probably beat most adults in a fight.
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 Depends is the adult force sensitive, what is their race/species.
@@shadowslayer9988 honestly TCW really seems to underpower padawans. Likem they can still use the forxe to push undreds of pounds of stuff around if they really want to.
During the war between Iran and Iraq Iran used child soldiers to clear minefields. Pol Pot used child soldiers in Cambodia. So this is not just something that happened back in medieval times in the real world.
@@shaydowsith348 Yeah but the Republic were supposed to be "the Good Guys" in the Clone Wars....
Great video !
What's that scene @ ~11:50 from??
Maybe they offered a great curriculum?
Younglings aren't ready to eventually slay organisms
I think had the Jedi had had the time they could have trained the teens better for combat. Sense the didn't have the time I would go with the out maneuvering side. The Jedi as a whole were not ready for the war and the teens even less so.
2:30 Palpatines MO, sounds alot like real life these days too unfortunately
'Ladies and gentlemen of the galatic senate...hear me out' -Palpatine
“Death to xenos.”
You’re lucky I just came off an Aliens binge so that I’m in a more agreeable mood. 😂
Makes sense...from the Jedi perspective, If they lose younglings they can always go out and steal more children for replacement.
They don’t steal kids, that’s a huge misunderstanding. The
This video NEEDED moar COW BELL BABY!
Jedis: i assure you, sending 8 year olds in the front line while them leading an army is crucial for keeping peace
this video was super under recommended
The Jedi council realizing they can just raise their soldier and make them think they don't need money or other things so that the republic doesn't have to pay them
First instinct as I clicked is "smaller targets" but let's take a look...
Hm, yep, Jedi doctrine failure also works...
What happened to the Jedi Service Corp when the Empire took over?
Where did that video of Revan come from?
What are some of the starears books.youve read and liked?
Smaller hitboxes
I always figured Padawans were going to fight alongside their masters, and there wasn't much thought about it. Star Wars aesthetic and setting is a Sci-Fi combination of Wild West, Medieval chivalry, World War 2, Kung Fu movies, and in later books modern political thriller. When I was a kid before the prequel era, I assumed Jedi apprentices were like western Squires, and would be teenagers serving alongside whoever was training them, basically officially recognized sidekicks. I didn't think of "child soldier" morality being a problem because well, knights bring squires to battle with them.
TLDR: Star Wars is a hodgepodge of genres with different moralities and to an audience of smart 8-10 year olds, the word Knight (and a hyperfixation on Castles and a few nonfiction books) would make a lot of the audience guess that it was totally chill for apprentice warriors to follow their mentors into battle.
Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
2:29 Sounds like real life
SpaceSparta!
Queen Amidala of Naboo was 14 years old in "The Phantom Menace." Another example of a child soldier.
Is there even a standard in the Republic about when someone becomes an adult, or is it basically the more you mature the more “adult you become”?
@@AmericanImperium1776 Different species might mature at different rates. That said, heads of state and Jedis would probably be exempt.
Truth is, the writers just don't think about it.
On a large enough scale there's no such thing as war crimes
The part that gets me, in the extended universe you learn Yoda knew what was going to happen with order 66. As wise and Powerful as he was, he should have been able to at least save the Younglings and some of the padawans. He could have had them all scattered across the Galaxy before Order 66 took effect. The older Jedi might have deserved their fate. But in my opinion The Young Ones could have learned a new way.
🤔 . . . Personally, & its technically part of my education reformation, I honestly believe that kids, assessed no younger that five (5) years of age, should have their training towards their Potential Careers as soon as possible. Thus, from tenth (10) grade, about fifteen (15) to sixteen (16) years of age, they’ll get hands on experiences with the various vehicles, such as planes, trains, ships, trucks, busses, helicopters, tanks, & more until they graduate twelfth (12) grade at around the age of eighteen (18). Even before their hands on high school, they would’ve also received a lot of prep training in middle school, especially in swimming, parachuting, et cetera.
Thus, I honestly don’t believe its wrong for Padawans to get involved, but I would heavily regulate & control what their roles & duties are based on how far their training has come & what skill sets could be most beneficial. The youngest would likely run various supply missions & watch/observe from the back & coordinate the forces as needed. The mids would likely be rear guard & battlefield cleanup, ensuring the wounded are treated, civilians are evacuated, & any pockets & potential threats behind the front line(s) are dealt with. The more advanced & mature are likely going to be put on the forefront, right where their masters are…
"We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers"
They weren’t exactly children they were teenagers
Padawan: Lowest rank in the jedi order.
Full jedi in every sense of the word.
Just lacking experiance.
War kills people.
Shocking i know.
Jedi are still people and died too.
I think it was a case of must rather then want.
Sure they could have stayed out of the war and let the republic be conquered(And betray all the stand for in the progress)
Or they deal the hand they where dealt.
It sucks but you can not stop training padawans just because there is a war going on.
If anything they too have to leatned how to deal with the unexpected war.
Better learn how to control themself then let the lose themself to battle.
Also i am 90% sure that early in the war all padawans send to wat where 18+
But constant losses kinda forces you to do think you dont like to win.
But as you pointed out several times the jedi simple wherent ready for war.
A 1000 years of peace does that to people.
Hello there friends welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech my name is Allen
Do u know if there were any groups hunting the Sith apart from the Jedi
Jedi belike - There a lot of kids mean a big child army and and you can get them to think how you want.
Can you please continue the sepratist alliance vs earth series please
The Jedi lost their way centuries ago.
Good analysis of the Jedi use of child soldiers.
Historically, kids were on the battlefields of Earth as soon as they could swing a sword. And Star Wars does take place a long time ago...
The jedi went with 2 much no one else thought it was weird they had no idea about the clone army till the war was about to start
Sir I know this may sound in relevant to you but. The only thing I can think of is the scene in the Matrix when the General told the boy he was too young to fight. Then the boy said the machines will kill me no matter how old I am. Then the General said "Damn right" and let him reload his GunBot ! 👁️ "Just saying"