How Order 66 Became the Best Scene in Star Wars
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I really love how The Bad Batch handled Order 66 from the clone perspective.
It hits a lot harder when characters you actually get to know are involved
@Don't read my profile photo i won’t
That episode really hit different but the rest of the show was kinda mid
The Jedis should have called the Disappearer. Just order a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro, and the Disappearer will give you a new identity on a new planet.
I disagree.
The saddest part to me is that Ahsoka never got the chance to say goodbye to Plo Koon despite knowing him for her entire life.
That's the second best part for me (obviously after all the Jedi getting what they deserve).
eh, Plo Koon was a very respectable jedi though, unlike some of the other assholes of the jedi order
@@reek4062 the dirty Jedi got exactly what they deserved, Empire Forever brother
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How? Their relationship is barely established
The fact a CLONE trooper was so close to ruining Palpatine's plans is actually so cool but tragic
It is certainly a really delicate plan
With-holding knowledge of a device in the mind of every soldier in your army from the ones who command it is no easy feat
"A chain is only as strong as it weakest piece" as they say... If his friend didn't had a malfunction in his chip, they would've been none the wiser.
no just so close
SO CLOSE
few more words, that gate not being their, fives not drugged, kix not being captured as well etc. palpatine got fucking lucky
@@kevind3974 supposly there is a story that says that mace windu and other jedis were investigating the place were he would meet up with count dooku but when they were sooooo close to discover who palpatine was the attack of corusant began. HE IS INDEED THE LUCKIEST MAN IN THE GALAXY.
If you wish to read about him succeed, try any place you can find Star Wars fanfic! Some of them he gets to murder the bastard his own damn self. The fact Palps has a bled lightsaber is a the default reason for him not getting shot by the guard (who so long as their chips aren't activated, are entirely content to kick his corpse after abuse they almost certainly suffered under him)
'Really X stops Order 66' is even more common than the prolific but somewhat more obscure: X gets sent back to Jaster Meerel's lifetime to prevent not just Order 66 from ever coming to pass, but the overwhelming majority of deaths from Jango Fett's stupidly tragic backstory. Sometimes even his birth parents live, & his sister is regularly rescued! Hell, there's a few where somehow he still ends up getting cloned for an army and the still existing True Mandalorians charge in to ensure the clones have rights, autonomy and an actual childhood
One small thing I recently noticed was when Tup starts rattling off "Good soldiers follow orders" in S6 Ep1 he looks straight at Anakin and completely ignores him but tries to attack General Tiplee as soon as he saw her, implying Sidious intentionally left out Anakin as a target in the inhibitor chip programming
wait really?
i never noticed that
I mean... Anakin was the backbone of the Grand Plan since Palpatine met him in Ep 1 so that makes sense
maybe this might be the case with later batches (im unsure which batch/ generation Tup belongs to) but Sidious met Anakin after the clone army had already been ordered
@@Zoldergamer idk if it’s canon but I think he knew of the existence of the chosen one from when Plagueis tried to manipulate the force
@@ZoldergamerYeah, ordered maybe, but I would imagine it took awhile for the first clones to roll off the line so to speak.
However, in Phantom Menace, Palps is still the Sith Apprentice at the start. He kills Plageus at some point during the run time if I remember correct, likely after ensuring his election.
And Dooku was the one who manipulated Sifo Dias into placing the order and found Jango Fett as a template, and he left the order after the death of Qui Gon. So his recruitment as the Sith Apprentice and all that has to happen after Palpatine first recognizes Anakin’s potential, and the design of the inhibitor chip must have come sometime after he made his final decision to groom the young Jedi as his intended apprentice.
The saddest part of Order 66 now, at least to me, is how close it was to being avoided. The whole inhibitor chip arc with Fives is still painful for me to watch. We know he’s right, and if he wasn’t killed by one of his own brothers so much would have changed.
Hey it’s the funny Destiny man!
Had anakin been a tiny bit late to stop windu, or had windu just killed Palpatine immediately instead of waiting because ya know plot…
Or how bout I do ya one better, HAD A NEW HOPE NEVER EXISTED--
I completely agree. It makes it so much more tragic. Clone Wars added so much to episode 3. It brought Revenge of the Sith from a mid tier decent movie to easily one of the best climax movies in the history of cinema.
I blame shakk ti alone fuckin left the one dude in the know with space doctor mangela
Don't worry, I know a guy who knows another guy who knows a guy who can give you a chance for a new life. He is simply called "the Disappearer." He can give you a new identity and a new place for your new life. Just order a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro. I gave this suggestion to one of my former clients. He was a padawan to a Jedi master who sadly killed during order 66. In the end, this padawan ended up in Lothal and lived his new normal life.
Another thing I’d like to point out is when Wrecker snaps out of his chip he reveals that he witnessed everything he did under its control which is horrifying because that means every clone was a spectator watching themselves kill their friends
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I find that Order 66 is one of the best examples of "bomb theory". Imagine you're watching two people talk and a bomb goes off without warning. It's startling because you've grown to like the two people. Now imagine the same scenario but you know the bomb is there, that's why Order 66 is great.
I remember learning about that quote from Alfred Hitchcock. It was his explanation for how to write suspense, and you're right, the dramatic irony of knowing the plot of Revenge of the Sith acts as the proverbial "bomb under the table" in other Star Wars media
The entirety of the prequels is a bomb theory. We know that the Republic will become the Empire, that Palpatine is the Sith Lord, that Anakin becomes Vader, that Luke and Leia have to be separated at birth, etc
It’s not just that it’s that one of the people has the bomb inside them
That was me watching Season 7. Seeing events going by, dreading that the moment I knew would come was getting closer.
@@jameson1239 And the other person will get killed by the bomb
I actually like "No one could have survived that fall" Maybe the clones couldn't directly resist, but with a convenient excuse, they can ignore the chip.
That’s always been my head canon.
Rex tried that by pointing out to Jesse that Ahsoka wasn't a Jedi, but Jesse demoted Rex and ordered both him and Ahsoka executed instead
@@believer2well think about it this way, perhaps the reason why Jesse contiued was because he saw ashoka, Cody never saw Obi wan past his fall so it's safe to assume that he assumed he was dead and was able to passively resist his programming as a result of that perceived death where as normally one would be forced to stop everything and contiue searching
It could also be due to cody having gone through some experimental stuff himself so he unlike the others is able to more passivly resist his inhibitor chip compared to others, idk if that's still cannon or not but I remember it being something brought up in legends, same with some stuff around Rex and a couple other troopers
That seems to have also been the case with Crosshair when he was told Caleb jumped.
It would take concious thought to conclude that a jedi could have survived that fall, concious thought the robotic clone didnt have and the non robotic clone would rather not point out.
As one comment said:
“Clone wars is literally every character just saying things will turn out fine then staring at the camera while evil music intensifies and I love it.”
Of it was chips all along!
Palpatine:hey kaminoans install us another batch of them CHIPS.
@@mdswitchy378 uhhh what? What do you mean? The chips are born inside the clones.
@@Gadget-Walkmen no the chips can be removed so they must have been implanted into the clone.
The clones are technically from bioengineering, but the chip is implanted into the clone.
@@mdswitchy378 No you CAN take something out that's been grown into you. That's just factually true, you can remove gall blanders that's inside your bodies as all. The chips are born from the clones from birth but still have a "techy" look to them on the outer shell.
@@Gadget-Walkmen then why did you remove your comment
There's actually a whole other even more sick and twisted angle to it. Because of how the Dark Side works, it's entirely possible that Palpatine took this specific course of action specifically to feed on all the shock and horror and trauma experienced by the clones and the Jedi as order 66 victimizes them both.
probably to further cement anakin into vader too
Makes sense why the dark side was so strong at that time as per maul's words
That.... actually makes sense. Like how Jacen had to murder Mara to become Darth Caedus
Yooooooo great point. That's devastatingly evil
A similar thought occurred to me a while back. I was baffled that in the era of droids and the like, the republic would want an army of living things dying around the jedi. And that clicked in a horrifying way. The jedi either suck at war and the clones around them die in droves, or embrace the war, and stray from their own path. The dark side wins in both scenarios, and to finish it all with order 66 is palpatines cherry on top
OK this is great but you can't leave out the Bad Batch episode where Rex shows up and you can just SEE his anxiety when he discovers they haven't pulled out their chips
"You're in direct violation of order 66."
*Kicks the shit out of everyone*
@@slippinjimmy9787 who up slippin they jimmy
I’ve been considering watching Bad Batch but their episodes weren’t my favorite in clone wars. I’m In need of something to watch tho so🤷🏻♀️
@@Plantbliss they’re pretty good and it’s got a good clone wars feel but it’s sick cause it’s just clones
I had Rex's exact reaction when Wrecker started getting migraines and "good... Soldiers..."
The entire prequel trilogy felt like one of those early access games that started off jank but received lots of patch updates over the decade to become the juggernaut that it is now.
Yes! Perfrctly articulated. Ive tried to explain my love of the prequels.
So basically what No Man's Sky did and no one else, gotcha.
They're still terrible. A children's cartoon and some video games don't make terribly written, told and shot movies good.
@@TheSearchForTruth88 Wrong, wrong, and wrong. The prequels were always better than the original trilogy. Revenge of the Sith alone blows the fuck out of most of the OT. Only Empire and the last act of RoTJ comes close. You may now seethe.
@@kigurumii Even the biggest prequel fans will disagree here. The OT has much better dialogue and flows better, where every movie is relatively close to eachother while the PT randomly starts with a movie over 10 years before the next one that has almost no relevance to the story apart from the last 10 minutes.
The prequels are good, don’t get me wrong, but the OT is just better than the PT.
It’s still truly insane how Darth *fucking* Maul of all people somehow turned out to be the best storytelling device for this huge world shaking event. In the end, for me, it was just that one guy that made it feel so much more real. I don’t really like the recent star wars shows all that much, but what they did with Maul really was genius.
Sam Witwer is really good
Fully agreed. TCW made Maul my favorite SW character.
I just wish they better explained how he survived after TPM and how he ended up on Lotho Minor.
@@sarveshnathan7559 Apparently getting your legs cut off makes you immune to fall damage, I guess
@@sarveshnathan7559 My friends in high school (before the Clone Wars movie, let alone show) say he invented a tree branch to survive.
Honestly, it's just as plausible as anything else, given our total lack of information.
His development is absolutely bonkers. If 12-year-old me was told these things, I'd have laughed. It's beautiful, honestly, what Star Wars stories can be capable of when told by the right people. And.. .a fellow Clone Wars and Akechi fan? I never thought I'd see the day!
Having Darth Maul yelling about how everyone is going to die near the end of the series was one of the most horrifying things i'd ever seen in Star Wars. One of the most iconic bad guys in the canon terrified about the future he knew was coming. Amazing writing.
If maul the man who was based off of Satan is afraid of something you best better believe it'll eff you up
His voice actor was so good at creating a character that looked calm and collected on the outside, but a close look through the veil isn’t fooling anyone to what he truly is; a dog, an animal left abandoned-a broken warhammer long after serving its purpose
@@seanslaysean7097 Sam Witwer is a treasure
He knew about order 66 and Jedi will fall
Like he is normally cunning but after this he is just trying to survive
I grew SOO attached to Fives in this show...and I DID cry when he died not only because he was a great guy...but because he died trying to do the right thing
Rip to a true hero😢he could have saved the jedi
I can’t get through that episode without crying
Bitch i cried so much
@ethanjenkins5079, Same!
My favorite comment about it all was "its heartbreaking that the very first episode of the Clone Wars emphasized the individuality of the clones and the very last episode took it away from them" captioned with a image of rex crying
What was most shocking was that The Bad Batch revealed that the Clones don't have their free will removed by the chip, but _overridden._ Wrecker explains after his chip was removed that he was fully aware of what he was doing, but he couldn't stop himself. It's like being a passenger in your own body, with some _thing_ else behind the wheel.
We see something similar in the final season of the Clone Wars. Rex tried to argue with Jesse that Ahsoka technically wasn't a Jedi anymore because she left the Order. Jesse visibly _considers_ the possibility. Then, he instantly regains his composure and calls Rex a traitor. I believe Jesse was on the verge of accepting this, only for the chip to override the thought because "Good soldiers follow orders."
"We die but we are not dead, We will be slaves trapped within our own bodies" - The Bentuis
You're totally right. The technicality that Ahsoka is not a Jedi anymore might also be why Rex's strong will manages to stop himself from killing her, with great difficulty as we can see. Rex is literally trying to trick his own mind, or rather the chip controlling it, that he doesn't have to kill Ashoka. The fact he manages to trick the chip, with a tiny loophole in the programming, at least for a time, shows how strong his will is. For me, it's the explanation that makes the most sense; if not, other strong willed clones with also strong attachment to their Jedi generals might have had a chance to resist the chip (or at least would have hesitated), but as far as we know, no clone other than Rex managed this feat.
@@leovk5779 huh - that's a solid theory!
@@zeyonaut Thanks ;)
@@leovk5779 Some specialist clones flatly rejected the order thinking it was a false order sent by the enemy.
“You’re all going to burn! We’re all going to die!”
Fuck that still gives me chills. Maul knew exactly what was coming: Death for All… and no one listened. Sam Witwer’s utter fear is acting personified in the truest form.
Makes it even worse when you realize WHO is saying that. Darth mother fucking Maul. The sith who survived for 12 years holding himself together by pure rage and vengeance. The sith who had slain countless jedi. The sith who killed Qui Gon Jin. Hearing him sound so absolutely terrified is genuinely chilling.
Yeah, Sidious was really, really lucky Maul hated the Jedi so much. If not, he could have told them about the entire 1000 year Sith plan to spite Sidious and ruin everything.
The Maul references are all top stuff. from the scene in the underground in which he says: "the moment may be upon us" - as he sensed that something happened and he believes its the reveal of sidious but it was anakin killing count dooku - to the entire throne hall scene in which he tries to convince ahsoka which just fails when he reveals that anakin is the shadow apprentice which sidious choosed and turns ahsoka against him - the fear when he is caught that he rather would die - the final moment that he sensed how the dark side gained the power while ahsoka feels anakins final fall and the moment ahsoka tells him about the clones betrayal/order 66 and he is just amazed how brilliant the entire plan was in the detail (before he becomes rogue one in badass mode)
A top arc.
To me, Order 66 is a perfect reflection of how the toll of tragic historical events can unfold. When one hears of such an event, it initially comes off as shocking, but is forgotten relatively quickly. But, overtime, as new information, articles, accounts of the victims/survivors' experiences, and visual depictions of the event are published, one gains a new perspective, and we realize the full weight and impact of such horrible tragedies.
The moment Ahsoka dropping her lightsaber before all the helmets of the 501st was one of the saddest moments in the star wars canon. Here lay people she loved, trusted, and fought beside, and who, in the end, had died trying to kill her against their will. It's for this reason that Rex and Ahsoka are two of my favorite characters, because of their moral codes, sense of duty, and above all else, loyalty.
The fact these troopers painted their helmets in orange to show their support for Ashoka (Basically saying "We are YOUR team, forever" makes this even more brutal... They cared for her, supported her, yet they had not the strength to fight off this order... and died because of it...
@@andre_601 Rex did try and he almost succeeded….but sadly he could only hold himself back long enough for ahsoka to escape then in another episode Rex gave it another shot and broke free of the order
“They may be willing to die, but I won’t be the one to kill them” from Ahsoka before the final confrontation, brutal lol
God, Maul talking about his premonition to Ahsoka and screaming for death after he was captured is so chilling
Sam Witwer absolutely deserves an award or some kind of recognition for his voice acting, it's legit some of the best I've ever heard
Witwer
His work as Starkiller is astounding.
@@thecommonman9524 oh shit, Sam does Starkiller too? That’s neat
According to IMB, he won a few behind the voice actors awards, and was nominated for many more, including an Emmy. He deserved all of them.
Witwer has been an absolute legend in every single thing he's done. Major underrated actor
The greatest detail of all, is how every clone replies "Yes, my lord" and whatnot. Never identifying him as more than that.
Rex replies "Yes, Lord Sidious."
And Palpy stops for a moment, likely thinking "oh shit, that was close".
Yeah. Rex had subconsciously pieced together that Palpy was Sidious.
@@darknessdescending6695 That actually makes sense. Most clones are unaware their overlord is Sidious. Rex's experiences throughout the war, the incident with Fives, and all the shit he went through definitely made him smarter and more knowledgeable than most. So he heard Sidious somewhere along the line, and when the order came, that name instinctually came up and he said it.
Rex: yes, lord sidious...
Plapy: *ayo what-* .....oh alright go get em trooper.
I've heard this theory since the episode aired two years ago and honestly I was never convinced. What pieces did Rex put together, realistically? Or rather, what pieces did we have on screen? We had Rex's suspicion due to the incident with Fives, and then Maul talked a little bit about him, but that's pretty much it.
Even Jesse refers to him as Lord Sidious, but how would he know anything? Honestly I think that bit was just a bit of an error on the writers part, and I don't think it's something they've ever officially commented on... please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@Dylan-xx2tk Well Ahsoka explained to Rex that Maul said there was an evil Sith Lord called Sidious that was controlling everything from behind the scenes. Meanwhile, Fives told Rex that Palpy was behind a plot that was controlling everything from behind the scenes. I think Rex realized they were the same person. I don't think anyone officially confirmed it, but it would just make a lot of sense.
The Clone Wars season 7 made me wonder if the other clones fought off their chips at all the way we saw Rex do it so clearly, and even Jesse when he paused just long enough to talk to Rex. Did Cody fight everything he knew to be able to say Obi-Wan was dead? Did Bly know he couldn't stop himself but keep shooting Aayla to ensure she wouldn't suffer? Is the sound of my heart breaking for my favorite childhood character audible?
I think you’re just overthinking on a clear plot device
rex is pretty much the exeption we get details that it screws with their heads in a way that make's them hate in jedi in a way that in their heads makes total sense probs the only reason rex could resist is because he knew he was being controlled (would you kindly moment from bioshock) and event then he still did it
Wow, did you read or see any of the novels. You got why ably and his troops shot Sekura (I don’t know how to spell her name).
@@bloodbrothers6556 not sure there’s anything like that in Canon
@@whyme943 I remember someone (Geetsly, I think) telling of a novel (or some other form of literature) speaking of the Clone commander’s thoughts before shooting. I know the Commander of the marines felt betrayed, and Sekura’s troops were considering how widespread the order was a thought to end her quickly so she didn’t need to suffer. None of the troops could look at her face afterwards.
Rex and Asokha burying the Clones is one of the saddest scenes of the show.
I love the line from the ending monologue of the Felucia mission in Battlefront 2; "I'm glad we were wearing helmets, because none of us could look her in the eye."
Which implies that, in Legends, 501st guy was either projecting what he did later to his actions back then, or they all knew it from the start.
@@randomguy-tg7ok In Legends, they knew
Battlefront 2 campaign one of the GOAT single player campaigns in video games.
That line was so chilling and haunting to 5 year old me, still is even now. But because of that line, ive always viewed order 66 as something so horrifying. And it just gets more and more so with every new depiction
@@pewpewpandas9203 God it was brutal at times.
The clones attacking Ahsoka while their helmets are still painted with the markings meant to honor her is one of the most gut-wrenching and haunting visuals in all of Star Wars. If that came out when I was a kid, I would have had nightmares about it for years.
Why
@@kingorange7739 lol
@@mannamedmaul5895 Seriously, it's not that bad. Twisted but comparatively light stuff
@@Espartanica yea
Then you should watch the geonosis worm episode of the clones getting infected, that is a scary episode when I saw it as a kid.
I’m a person who doesn’t really cry toward tv and movies but watching Asoka take off Rex’s helmet and seeing him cry, that seen make me break down crying right along with Rex. Tbh the entire last 2 episodes made me teary but Rex crying hurt the most.
Add more pain to Plo's death, Plo was flying the fighter Anakin gave him( Anakin had custom painted it).
Was it Warthog who shot him down?
@@nastyfyme No, it was Captain Jag.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 thanks!
I think we can all agree that Rex executing order 66 was absolutely heartbreaking
Watching him struggling to stop himself from completing the order which would mean the death of Ahsoka hit everyone in the feels
my boy Jesse :'(
See, this is why I dont understand some people hating the chip. Good soldiers follow orders my ass, I refuse to believe Rex would just immdiately pull a gun out on Ahsoka on his own if he didn't have a chip
"F-fives"
"Fives"
"FIND HIM"
"FIND FIVES"
"FIND HIM"
Still hurts me.
If Rex had been a good soldier, Ahsoka wouldn't have survived. It's heartbreaking that she prevented him from following his orders.
That one hurt clone wars always hurts
Revenge of the Sith showed Order 66 through the Jedi's perspective. Clone Wars, the Siege of Mandalore Arc, showed Order 66 through Ahsoka Tano's perspective.
Fallen Order showed Order 66 through a Padawan's perspective. The Bad Batch showed Order 66 through the Clones' perspective.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obi-Wan Kenobi showed Order 66 through Anakin's perspective. It is a cornerstone event in the Star Wars franchise. The fact that it can be shown over and over, with all these different perspectives, and not even for a moment seem "redone" or "rehashed" or "tired" shows how paramount this one single moment is. ONE moment, changed everything.
And the funny thing is....it wasn't even order 66 that changed the galaxy's fate to begin with.
If Order 66 didn't change the galaxy's fate, then what event is it?
@@jamesmmcgill Palpatine becoming the emperor...
Order 66 was one of my favorite part of Jedi: Fallen Order
@@jamesmmcgill The death of Qui-Gon. It's been often stated not just by fans, but by George and Filoni, that if he had lived the duel against Maul, aka the Duel of the Fates, Anakin would never have been groomed by Palpatine. Anakin needed a father, not a brother. He needed someone who would understand his emotions, not berate him for having them, and for following his heart over his head. He needed someone who would train him and push him, yet maintain that familial bond Anakin needed. The Duel of the Fates isn't just the song name just cause it's cool-the duel of the fates is to decide Anakin's fate itself. It certainly puts Anakin's relationship with Ahsoka in a new light. Anakin himself, grew to be a father/brother figure to Ahsoka, caring about her so much, to the point where he was the ONLY ONE who stood up for her when she was framed, demanded that the father bring her back to life when on Mortis, and maybe, JUST MAYBE tried to give a way out as Darth Vader when they meet again years later at that pyramid. Anakin became a father/brother figure to Ahsoka, even when he didn't have that himself.
Full children slaughtering scene!?!??!!!
25:50 Fun fact about psychology; each one of the Bad Batch has a psychological disorder & biological differences making the chips redundant except for Crosshair & it matches them perfectly. Starting with the obvious, Echo has had multiple brain surgeries & cybernetic enhancements making his psychological state purely hypothetical.
Human behaviour comes from 5 parts of the brain; Frontal, Parietal, Occipital & Temporal Lobes with the Brain Stem & Cerebellum making up the final lobe.
Frontal (located at the front) is personality, behaviour, socialising & primary sensory processing, alongside short-term memory storage & executive functions.
Parietal (located in the top-centre & top-rear) controls advanced senses like heat & pressure sensing, language & problem solving.
Temporal (located near the front, but behind the Frontal, and below the Parietal lobes) controls the understanding of speech which combines the Frontal & Parietal functions of input-language. Also making it the mid-way between short-term & long-term memories.
Occipital despite being in the rear controls eyesight, long-term memory & electromagnetism aka migration or sixth-sense, the optical part of this lobe are connected directly through the Frontal Lobe to the eyes, and the information travels to the processing space.
Cerebellum controls motor functions, alongside attention, cognitive skills & more language storage. And the Brain Stem controls all of the subconscious things like our life, organ functions & neuro connections/nerve connections.
Because of this the Cerebellum, Brain Stem & Frontal Lobes are the most crucial to living as a human being. Aka movement, organ function & what is essentially your very identity alongside the highway to all other brain functions except organ function which is what executive function means.
The chips are located on the right-side parietal lobe which would give it direct control of advanced senses, and a direct highway to higher functions of the Frontal Lobe & Cerebellum (Personality/Free Will & Motor Skills)
Hunter's enhancements are to his sensory & electromagnetic connections, aka Frontal, Parietal & Occipital functions. An abnormal parietal probably caused the chip to malfunction, which would give credit to his advanced senses.
Tech very clearly has some kind of social impairment at the cost of higher logical brain function, aka the Autistic spectrum. This would mostly effect his frontal lobe, especially the prefrontal cortex which is where most behavioural disorders come from, but autistic people tend to have hypersensitivity to sensory changes, which would be his parietal. It would probably make him the only Autistic clone trooper.
Wrecker obviously has the IQ graded as mental retardation (the official IQ term, not my words), which gives him an easily amused child-like mind, not helped by repeated head-trauma. The enhanced body-growth is attributed to a thyroid malfunction (located in the throat & controlled by the pituitary gland which is actually controlled by the cerebellum, temporal & frontal lobe, not the parietal which would explain why his chip activated later on. So I would attribute the delay both due to hormonal differences from his thyroid hormone levels & the repeated head-trauma since his scar seems to be frontal, optical & parietal.
Crosshair however, is the Antisocial Personality Disorder spectrum which is nicknamed the dark triad because you have psychopaths, sociopaths & empaths (unofficially Dark Empaths for easier identification amongst other empaths).
Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made & empaths display similar traits to both, but can flick their emotions on & off, usually not of their own choice, but it can be trained. Since Crosshair is obviously empathetic I'd suggest he's a dark empath. This would mean he has damage to personality, emotion & behavioural centres, all of which centre in the frontal lobe. This would mean his parietal lobe is still functioning like a normal clone troopers, hence he was the first to execute order 66 out of the Bad Batch.
With that mental assessment in mind we can clearly see which clones can turn. Crosshair = definitely yes, Wrecker = damaged but likely functional. Echo = compromised, formerly yes. Tech = unlikely, but possibly active. Hunter = Negative, parietal compromised.
Out of the 5 members not including Omega, all but one would be compromised if they remained chipped.
Very cool
Only someone who posts such an in-depth analysis with such accuracy and detail, on a fictional subject no less, can earn this much respect from me. Bravo 👏
Bro wrote a five paragraph essay just to prove a point about something that at the end of the day is fiction. And I'm all for it! The detail you put in is amazing and I could easily see this getting it's own video if you tried hard enough.
TL;DR this is amazing! Keep up the good work.
Y’know, this actually does put a new light into my knowledge on the chips, even with my inexperience in that part of the field. I like it, and great post :>
The inhibitor chip (like it or not) really nails down how powerful and inevitable Palpatine is. He’s thought of everything. He’s manipulated the Senate, trapped the Jedi Order, lured Anakin to the dark side, separated him from Obi-Wan (according to the Revenge of the Sith novel) (and others). Palpatine is going to take over the galaxy, and there is nothing that anybody can do about it. It’s… tragic
Yep and without it, more clones would disobey than ones who would obey regardless. Rex, Jesse, the entirety of the Wolf Battalion under Plo Koon, the Bad Batch except Crosshair and among others.
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Palpatine manipulated himself?
The last season of Clone Wars is the epitome of Hitchcock's Bomb. You are completely awake that the bomb is there, ticking away one second at a time. It is nothing short of a masterclass of suspense
The coolest thing about the inception of the idea of order 66 is that it helped guide the idea of a star wars cinematic universe, where multiple different stories can contextualize this one moment from a film almost 20 years old. Granted SW didn't pioneer the idea, but it's cool to see the fertile soil that this scene provided cultivated so many years later.
I thought it was a Chekov's gun, it was announced it was there with Ep 3. the exact moment the clone wars show starts, it plays on this one moment, building up to the moment it can be used. Every scene the chancellor is in, his voice is so chilling that all he needs to do is drop a few octaves, speak slower and he could utter the order at that moment, but we know it wont be. We know where each major player has to be in terms of the Jedi from ep 3, before they can use it, but the exact moment they show us where they are, that gun has been loaded, it has been cocked, now it can go off at any point. But unlike a normal Chekov's gun, where it is pulled out and fired immediately, in every moment, if you focus enough, you can recognise the signs that its here, that the exact next scene you will hear the words that change everything. The silence, the headache of thousands of Jedi being executed spread out across the galaxy, then you see him... that blue bastard of a hologram. In the hands or in front of a clone, is Palpy himself with the hood up and that alone tell you, that aint the chancellor, that's not even the damn senate. That is Lord Sidious, the one that can sentence a jedi to execute a sith lord, the one that makes dark god damn maul, the one who was turned into an agent of vengeance and a madman, cower like a scared dog in what that man could do to him. But the exact moment the pieces fall together, is when the words have just come out of his mouth. you start to shout, no no no no, you want to smack that communicator out of their hand, you want to stop it but its too late, their eyes gloss over, their orders have been given and they place both hands on their blaster, turn to their jedi and fire. just like that wave upon waves of bolts just flying at every jedi anywhere near a clone and despite those being far enough away to what i assume is the equivalent of lag so that the feel the deaths of their fellow jedi, its not enough that unless they are specifically warned or are the literal master of the jedi order, that they cannot know what is coming. And surprisingly, every iteration is different enough that it hits us the exact same way if we haven't been expressly told that its coming or that we have seen that scene before. The original... we had only heard of the execution of the jedi, never really told in detail what the hell happened, so that when it came about in ep 3, no one was prepared, while we weren't exactly attached to each jedi, that wasn't the point, the travesty of that first order 66 wasn't that we were never endeared to them. that was never the point. the two major points in my opinion was seeing how these clones in just a split second, all synchronised across the galaxy, could wipe out almost the entire jedi order just like that. the second point of the scene in my opinion, was the ramp up of the deed. First you had the more prominent jedi, the masters that sat on the council and our major players like yoda and obi-wan. Then they brought us to the temple, where im pretty sure it was mostly the knights being slaughtered with a Padawan every now and again. Then the drive it in further, with the lone Padawan in front of bail organa and the most infamous scene of them all. Anakin goes all the way, further than murdering a jedi master and defending a sith lord, The sith lord in fact. He kills the god damn younglings... they weren't prepared for him, they weren't ready for him to betray them as no one had any idea that he killed windu and saved sidious. In the clone wars, they give us every indication of what episode they are going to unleash it in, its just a matter of when. They bring in some truly touching moments, reflecting on everything they have done and rex merely walks back with no indications of what was coming. but then it hits. You see the familiar signs, the general unease and quiet of it all, the headache, the panic, she rushes back to tell rex but he has already heard them, his eyes just changed into those of a mindless jedi killing machine, but this time its deafferent, when he turns back, instead of just shooting, he had enough of a a difference from you average clone, a bond that transcends any other, a mindset to complete the mission with any method, not just the orders given, that fact he truly sees comradery in everyone alongside him, not just the jedi or his brothers, but that only gives him a few moments of a even foggy mind. Rex, the one clone that withstood it without being a fundamentally different clone, only hand a couple lines before the switch fully flipped and he hunted her. No hesitation onwards. However, in fallen order, situation is reversed entirely. It seems like just another flashback, albeit with some clone interaction, but not enough that it makes you suspicious, they arent trying to attach these clones to you, they are just establishing that Cal dosnt fear the clones for any reason and they respond well to him as well. then he gets to his master and everything seems fine until it hits the same way it always does, the unnerving quiet, the headaches, the fear of what's about to come washes over you and you then see it... The blue bastard is here again, giving the order to the lone clone behind Cals master and everything clicks just as he's about to shoot and... he kills the clone. This isn't an execution this time, no... its a hunt, a hunt for these two jedi across this entire ship, with one storming the halls and the other scrambling across the pipes and chasms in the guts of the ship. And you feel it, you feel what this iteration really is. its entirely from a Padawan's perspective, it should be obvious right? both the fact that Cal was never made a knight and the fact he is pretty much a child in this scene but you feel the same things he now suddenly does, confusion on why its happening, they never saw the order being given, one was hit with an immense amount of people dying and the other too concerned for his master. you feel the terror of trying to escape and you feel the grief of loss when Cals master is finally gunned down in front of him. Finally you have the 2 most recent portrayals, The bad batch and grogu. With grogu, its a mere singular scene but it provides just enough to show his own view on how it felt, this is from a surviving younglings perspective, one that wasn't gunned down by the clones or sliced by the youngling slayer 9000. He has no idea what's going on in the slightest other than people are dying and he dosnt like it. Jedi being slaughtered and he cant do anything but hope he lives through, unfortunately since we don't have knowledge of how he escaped or who helped him do so. Finally, the last portrayal of the exact moment the republic ended and the empire began, the bad batch shows order 66 out of the gate from not just a clones perspective, but the perspective of the only clones who can physically have a chance to be immune to it. When the order is given any clone around the one who got the order suddenly knows what they have to do, but they don't know what's going on, so when they approach Caleb without knowing he just watched his own master get gunned down while he was powerless, just like Cal in fallen order, he runs and they just want to help and we then see it, we hear it and we definitely feel it. One of them, crosshair, has heard the order and it triggered him, sure he may not seem much different since his personality was similar to how the clones are now but he said the damn line. Good soldiers follow orders. It makes no sense that he is affected but the others arent until you realise its exactly because he seems similar to how the clones seem now, its no longer the night and day of him calling them regs and them getting mad, now, he's pretty much just a normal clone that's a better shot. The rest still have a chance of being affected and until they all get their chips removed its a case of yet again, Chekov's gun, they could turn at any moment.
Now we have pretty much an idea of what Order 66 looked like from all perspectives. We have a full view from and outside perspective(Original Ep 3), we have it from a masters perspective(Ep 3 Obi-wan and Yoda), we have it from a knights perspective(Ashoka, we can all agree even though its Cal situation as she never became a knight, she might as well be one), we have it from a Padawan's perspective(Cal in fallen order), we have the clones perspective when they arent mind controlled(Bad batch) and we have a younglings perspective(Grogu in mandolorian). That's every possible perspective, right? Yes but possibly no. There's obviously the option of extending grogu's perspective with more scenes showi9ng who helped him escape, there's the general public/individual citizens opinions on what the hell happened, there's always the option of showing the mind of a clone following orders, yelling to stop it and falling into despair when he kills his jedi or even trying to be expressive but having his emotions suppressed by the orders. Either way, there's an immense number of ways they could show us the scene again without making it stale, hell they could revisit the original sequence and show us the clones interaction with their jedi for the last time, joking arounds, scouting out areas, general radio chatter, then hitting us again with it. No matter what they do, its always going to be obvious, that this moment isn't simply the turning point or some big decision, as this was all according to plan for sidious. No, this one moment was where palpatine hard work, from killing his master, to manipulating multiple parties to giving him emergency power, to directing both sides of the war, finally giving the order after gaining a new immensely loyal apprentice. This moment is palpatine winning after years of work. This is him changing the game from subterfuge and manipulation, to kingdoms and civ-like games, where he is managing his new empire, sitting back and taking a moment to let it all soak in, then spending the next few years cleaning up the mess that wasn't taken out. This one moment, means so many things, it is shown in so many ways but it can be summarised as one thing... This is where the republic died and the empire was born.
@@agentluke18 Okay first, that was masterful what you just said.
And second, the idea of seeing it from citizens is a good one. It's been implied in some areas, like how the Wookies reacted to seeing it happen. In the movie, we only saw Chewbacca and Tarrful with Yoda, but presumably, there were Wookies around when Lumanara and Vos got turned on, and the Wookies would naturally be confused and angry at this, and because the Clones are mindless thanks to their Chips they would then attack the Wookies who either tried to tell them they were wrong about the Jedi being traitors or just attacked them for killing the Jedi. That is implied what happened in that brief scene in Episode 3 of those Clones reporting "All the Wookies here are dead."
The Clones didn't just turn on the Jedi, the chips make them turn against anyone who disagrees with them, even if they were just fighting alongside them like five minutes ago, we saw it with the Wookies and we saw it with the people of Utapu who were being arrested in the background during Episode 3 when Cody questioned his men if they found Obi-Wan's body, despite just helping the clones beat back the Separatists. So it would be interesting to see how others who see the Clones just turning on the Jedi would react.
Well said
23:10 "Nobody could survive that fall" I like to think that General Cody says that more to be "free" of the order, as if he "tricks" himself into believing that he just killed Obi-wan he won't have to search for either the corpse of Obi-wan or an alive target he must finish off
I mean, there was a direct hit from an AT-TE's railgun cannon thing. It's a fair assumption to believe that the jedi surely would have been injured from the blast, in addition to the fall.
that's a good way of thinking about it. Cody's underrated, he's always overshadowed by Rex (love Rex still)
Headcanon can fix many flaws, and I love it for that
Headcanon is fine and all, but let's face it, Lucas is just a bad writer.
@@WobblesandBean I think he can be very good, but he self-admittedly hates a lot of the most necessary parts to writing a good story. Once he was a huge star director, he couldn't really be told "no" when he skipped em.
Fives’ last words hit so hard because in a way, Order 66 is the death of the clones. Not just in the sense that their autonomy and personalities are erased but also because it means their entire purpose for existing has been fulfilled and there’s nothing left for them and they’re essentially just waiting to die. To them the mission- the nightmare being over is the same thing as death.
Which is a major focus of the first season of Bad Batch. I'm in the middle of watching S2 rn so I can't speak for the recent seasons, but a major B-plot for the first season was disposing of the Clones and the Kaminoan facilities
I’ve theorized that a clone trooper somehow defying order 66 saved grogu, which would explain his inherit trust in helmeted warriors.
That's an interesting theory!
Didn’t the show say he was saved by a Jedi tho? I could be wrong as I don’t remember it too much, but I could have sworn the show said that.
I personally think he was saved by Jo costa nu the librarian, as she was there during the attack. Might have also been a temple guard, maybe the then GI?
Either way, it’s an interesting theory and one I haven’t even thought of. Hopefully we get an answer in the third season of Mando.
Welp turns out Jar Jar saved him
@@Dabazuka Lol. The fact that this is true on many levels is incredible.
@@JIKwood it's great isn't it
The funny thing is that I didn't know beforehand that the final arc of Clone Wars would tie in with Revenge Of The Sith, so I was watching it with no worries, and when Obi-Wan said "Anakin killed Count Dooku" I crapped myself and paused the episode for a minute to come to terms with what I was about to see.
You didn't catch it in the first episode? Obi-Wan rushes in while Anakin is giving Ahsoka her lightsabers back informing them that Grevious has kidnapped the Chancellor, and they're preparing to go back to Coruscant. The Siege of Mandalore and Revenge of the Sith start at essentially the exact same time.
Yeah, but I thought Clone Wars would finish where Episode III starts, like Tartakovski's Clone Wars. Didn't think it would finish alongside Episode III.
Lmao same and after Obi-Wan dropped that line, I had sort of anxiety with every new scene. I remember when the clones captured Darth Maul there was this specific one shot where the camera zoomed in on one of the clone's helmet like as if its about to happen any second now
"When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye." 501st Journal, Star Wars: Battlefront II
I remember that line 😕
That hit hard back then.
Original battlefront 2?
@@FrozenStarFish yeah
@@3DInnovations70 thank you, I need to play that campaign tbh. I played the original battlefront more when I was younger and didn't get to play battlefront 2 til later but I don't think I played the main campaign
While I've only seen it in fan fictions, it's suggested that Cody did know that Obi-Wan could "easily" survive that fall, and subconsciously "helped/allowed" him to escape. One of the pieces in favor of this is that he didn't post guards at Grievious' Shuttle/Fighter.
Also, we did see more aspects of Order 66, with the Obi-Wan TV Show.
do you have any suggestions for fics like that?
Why would he have probe droids looking for him, he had men searching, if he wanted him to live they wouldn't have looked
I love how in the umbra arc, Krell originated the line: “it’s treason then.” Which made the same line from Palpatine more horrifying. I also love how Krell almost told the clones about Order 66 before getting executed.
Another interesting detail I found in Revenge of the smith is that anakin wasn’t crying about Padme in the council hall, he was also crying about Ashoka, because she was like a sister to him and it’s really heartbreaking in season 7 when they never get to patch up as well as reunite because order 66 got in the way. And it also makes the final episodes of season 2 of rebels more tragic.
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word. - unknown trooper Starwars Battlefront 2
wow so emotional, somebody copy pasted the battlefront thing for the 12,000,000th time
He should of talked about Battlefront II for the pre Clone wars context of Order 66
I loved how they did the story for the old BF2.
I'm surprised he didn't talk about this. BF2 from 2005 was my first experience with order 66. Not technically canon anymore, given what's been added later with the inhibitor chips, but still iconic.
One that sticks with me is at the end of the Felucia mission he says no one could bear to look Aayla Secura in the eye while she was praising them - hinting that they all knew. I still think it's emotionally powerful even if that doesn't really work with the canon anymore.
This scene as a whole was simply magnificent. Not to mention that seeing it play out in the Clone Wars, Fallen Order, and Bad Batch made it that much better
Order 66 ended up aging like wine
When Depa Billaba was killed by the clone soldiers, what did her apprentice do? He called me and I gave him the business card of the Disappearer. I told him to order a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro. That's why he ended up in Lothal.
Better call Saul!
@@jamesmmcgill gold
Sure, if you ignore the inhibitor chip thing.
The scene was okay. Everything else around it made it good.
And now that “The Mandalorian” season 3 finished a while ago, we know that Jedi Ahmed Best sped him away on a speeder to a Nabooian cruiser.
And if you recognize the name and actor, he was Jar Jar. Dude dealt with fandom abuse for so long, and he still came back. Respect.
We get order 66 from every angle.....except the separatists'. Imagine the confusion of the battle droids and the organic commanders and generals like "Da fuq they doin over there?"
Also the normal civilians
Could you imagine, Numa the small Twi'lek girl seeing her hero Boil gunning down a Jedi and become a villain
@thaiangquoc9505 Just wait until she hears the news about Waxer.
@@thaiangquoc9505She's seen wearing part of Boil's armor by the time she's an adult in Rebels, so Boil was either one of the clones who eventually became part of Rex's Clone Rebellion (Like Echo and those ones with unique names who were killed by the Clone Assassin) and gave it to her, or he died for some reason, and she started using it as a way to remember the man he once was, and not the one he became
I know so far it's only a comic but the story for Clone Medic Kix (who is a recurring character in The Clone Wars) and his involvement in Order 66 is also super tragic.
He one of the few clones Fives spoke to before his death. And the only one to really do some digging into what Fives said. Kix found out about the chip and Order 66, but was captured before he could make it to Anakin.
He was put into a frozen status by the Separatists and was ment to be shipped off to Dooku. But the Republic shot at it without knowing Kix was in there.
The ship went into a panic hyperdrive and crashed in some bumbfuck middle of nowhere planet. And wasn't found till a few years before Episode 7 took place.
The first thing he did when he was awake enough was try to tell these people that HE NEEDED to warn his General about Order 66. Only to find out the exact event already unfolded 50 years ago.
Extra note of hurt. Kix was a medic, it was his job to patch up and heal his fellow clones. But he ended up being the last one alive in the end.
"He used to have millions of brothers… now he's the last. But he still hears them. They whisper to him. He's still fighting his war. I don't think he can ever stop."
I'm gonna cry thank you
When does this happen? Like what show
@@mahoganyk
Book
The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku
Jesus
It’s like Fry from Futurama, but he actually felt like he had something to live for in his time.
I've never understood why, but something about prime minister almac saying "for weeks now he's been filled with a strange sense of dread" talking about maul in the situation, always sat with me. It probably is just the fact that Maul knew something was coming and even he was scared....the ex Sith Lord was SCARED, enough context there to give you chills.
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It's all good, man. Better call Saul
Especially when he said “for weeks”. It’s like everything has been set up perfectly for a long time
I remember playing fallen order, completely blind, and getting to the order 66 flashback. I thought it was weird that Cal started in his room, thinking it was the holocron on his desk that the game wanted me to see. But when I walked out and saw clones that I could talk to, I shed a tear and said, out loud, "oh fuck...".
Apparently I'm in the minority, but "execute order 66" combined with the clones unflinching acceptance of the order, & their immediate flip to calling Sidious "my lord" always rang as a trigger phrase for a sleeper agent to me. Even as a 10 year old back when I first saw RotS in theaters, it seemed obvious to me that the clones had had this secret code phrase built into them from the beginning that they were powerless to stop. I'm honestly still surprised by how many people initially thought that the clones knew what was coming all along, & willingly chose to obey Order 66.
That doesn’t make much sense when considering that the phrase Sidious specifically states is “the time has come” suggesting that the clones knew about the order ahead of time.
And it wasn’t a matter of thought. That was canonically the case from 2002-2013. This was confirmed by Pablo, Lee Lan Chee, and novels like Republic/ Imperial Commando.
The inhibitor chips was a retcon placed later all in the service of removing accountability from the clones. How dare the perfect soldier follow an executive order without the big bad mind control device forcing them too.
@kingorange7739 I liked the idea of the chips when I saw a video about how it wiped their memories and made them view the jedi as hostile. Because if you notice in rots the clones becomes extremely hostile to the point of almost hatred doing anything necessary to kill jedi. This is seen again in clone wars when Jesse and the clones corner ashoka and rex on the crashing venator. They were so dedicated to carrying out their orders that they were willing to die on a crashing ship in order to do so. That is hatred. The chips made them believe that jedi were so evil that not a single clone attempted to save themselves on the crashing ship. Something to think about
@@ethanearly9245 Which is fine, if you like the chips man. All the power to you. I will even admit I am not as strongly against them now as I was years ago, but I still stand that Legends did it better. The reason why the clones appeared very aggressive in ROTS was because it was meant to represent that deep down the clones were not good people. I mean we have to remember they were cloned off a mandalorian bounty hunter who was extremely aggressive and ruthless and with the exception of some genetic modifications to make them more docile with following orders, they were the same.
Well that's because orginally they DID CHOOSE, legends had clones as more drone like, with only special forces and select few troopers having a personality and feelings
@@kingorange7739Not really. Most clones would naturally disobey by the time the war is about to end. The Wolf Battalion under Plo Koon would be a prime example and if a Jedi like Plo Koon gets to live under such attempted massacre AND if Ahsoka obviously gets to survive it because an entire clone battalion painted their helmets under her honor and Rex and Jesse sensibly refusing to follow it, the Galactic Empire is already doomed.
It was changed because the chips made more sense as it shows practical Palpatine is thinking of every possible corner covered. Because in Legends, most clones eventually did disobey because certain of them STILL DEVELOPED CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS with the Jedi from close friendship to an outright romantic relationship. So much for Palpating relying on them just following orders......because the clones who would follow it by the end would naturally be anomalies.
The stupid "good soldiers follow orders" schtick without the inhibitor chips is far more contrived and stupid.
You know what's even more haunting about the opening of the final arc's third episode? Everything that happens *visually,* is something that normally *would* be celebratory in any other episode.
And you can't even enjoy it because it is just so stressful. You know it's gonna happen.
@@carlycrays2831 Exactly. But it's the music that makes it stressful too. If you played that... celebratory ending music that played in the early episodes of Clone Wars on that scene, it'd just be any other scene. But they play this slow, stressful, aethereal kind of piece over it, to put you on edge. Just shows you how important music is to a scene.
@@carlycrays2831 It's dramatic irony at its most horrifying and gut-wrenching
@@tonystank3091 Star Wars as a whole is an excellent case study in exactly how powerful music is for film
Palpatine's reveal as Darth Sidious and him giving the Clone Troopers the command to follow Order 66 will always be an iconic main villain move to me
Agreed. One of the best story beats in cinema history.
There's a reason Palpy is such an iconic villain and I think 80% of the heavy lifting there happens in revenge of the sith.
Somehow Palpatine revealed himself.
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@@emoji3266 stop.
12:33 I mean when I was a kid the way Palatine said "Execute Order Sixty-Six" sounded like he was saying it to a robot so I always thought it was programmed into the clones like a sleeper agent trigger phrase
If you want a really excellent exploration of Order 66 within the Revenge of the Sith timeline, I highly recommend the novelization of the movie by Matthew Stover. It's incredible, and offers a lot of insight into what's going on in a lot of characters' heads leading up to the events, primarily Anakin and Obi-Wan's (but not limited to them). One of the strengths of the book is exploring the complete and utter breakdown of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship while still acknowledging the bond they had. The book is HEARTBREAKING and one of the best additional materials to the fall of the Republic that I've ever consumed.
I still remember seeing the draft for how Plo Koon was meant to die.
He was supposed to eject from the fighter before it crashed... only for the clones to gun him down while the seat was propelling him clear to deploy the parachute.
I don't know why it was changed. Both work, but it was more brutal in my mind.
Even sadder, the original version of the scene we have now saw Plo Koon surviving Order 66
Because this way they can say he survived if they want to bring him back
I think Order 66 is a perfect example of how _knowing how you want to end a story_ benefits writing. If you start drafting a story from the end and work backwards, everything that happens along the way is a stepping stone that builds up to the finale. Obviously doing this doesn't automatically make a story good, but some of the most famous fictional works used this writing style.
I also think that this might have been part of why the sequel trilogy flopped in the eyes of many fans, having multiple directors with conflicting ideas of where to take the series.
This is how I started writing my gnosticism + fanfic anime storyline.
What you mean by Order 66 being the best way for knowing how a story ends bit?
@@123alexkong I think in terms of TCW, we are just waiting for Order 66 the whole show. We know it's coming, we know it's gonna happen, but we don't know when it will happen.
And then S7 happens and you just keep wondering when it will happen.
The sequels are non canon
@@thegamingprozone1941 They're canon and the TV shows are all building up to them
Crazy that we now have Tales of the Jedi and Kenobi to add to these scenes. Tales of the Jedi adds so much to order 66 aswell, all that training that ahsoka put in with rex and the boys really saved her life, no one could have know when they were training that the situation would become reality.
I think that episode was so cool because it explains why Ahsoka was able to survive. Not just because she was Anakin’s padawan, but because of the training she got.
This makes me want a "What if?" But for star wars. Imagine the stuff we'd get. I would like to see What if Fives mission was successful and order 66 was stopped?
I love how throughout the episode, ashoka becomes less quick and accurate, to show she's getting tired. Ashoka's character development throughout the series was perfect, from a bratty, anyone little girl to a Jedi who, even in the face of death, is kind and caring enough to not kill the clones, something even master Yoda couldn't do. For people who complained about her fighting Vader for way too long in rebels, this episode showed us how strong she was
After Order 66, Ahsoka came to my office. She needs help so I gave her the business card of the Disappearer. So, she ordered a new dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro right away, and she ended up in an another planet.
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@@emoji3266 It might be easier for Schaff to see it if you made a comment on the video itself instead of replying to comments.
Then again, I don't know how the content creators see comments, so take my advice with a grain of salt.
It is sort of insane when you consider that she and Rex probably hadn't slept in over a day by that point.
@@jamesmmcgill Saul you absolute legend, thank you for saving Ahsoka
A lot people, Lucas himself, don't hold the greater expanded universe to such an important perception, especially given that they believe that movies should stand on their own two feet (which is fair and true), but all the comics, animation, and books really helped us to get attached to the Jedi before they were killed, even before 2008 Clone Wars
I have friends who say clone wars is still a kids show >:(
@@Smile-ov1us it is. Sure it has dark moments but star wars is a dark story. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a kids show.
Clone wars isn't a kids show, it's a family show, there is a difference
@@ntfoperative9432 I appreciate your pointing out this critical difference.
@@denlillaflakten4220 A kid's show that deals with many themes that very few children could possibly grasp unless they actually grew up in a warzone? I would say it wasn't really targeting a specific age group since it has stuff for everyone.
18:25 the scream might be silly but its fully very realistic
Oh, we KNOW who saved Grogu now.
And he was the BEST choice
The thumbnail alone is a gut punch, man. Rex being in absolute tears trying to fight his inhibitor chip to warn Ahsoka to look for Fives emotionally destroys me every time.
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In particular, the new understanding of Order 66 I believe effects the scene with Yoda the most. Picture being him in that moment. We’ve been slowly drip fed different takes on 66 over the years in a digestible way from the perspective of, well, the audience.
Now look at it from Yoda’s perspective. In an INSTANT, EVERYTHING that happens hits him. Things even we, the audience haven’t seen. In a single moment, Yoda felt everything he oversaw shatter. Children he raised who had futures, fellow masters he may have even been friends with or knew fondly, EVERYONE. In some ways I’d say it’s even more impactful than Obi-Wan’s line about voices being silenced in ANH. There, it’s most likely people he never knew. He still addressed it as a tragedy, but from an outsider perspective.
For Yoda, he was responsible for ALL of those people. The realization, followed by the shock, the sorrow, and the *shame.* The blood of roughly 10,000 people on his hands. And he experiences it all *at once.*
I sense a great disturbance in the force...
As though a thousand voices cried out in confusion...
and were silenced... one by one...
And even more than the Jedi, I think he would have felt the Clones too. He has repeatedly referred to clones as having a presence in the Force, and though not as obvious as another Force wielder might be, the number of Clones throughout the galaxy would give them a significant presence... especially if the same thing were to happen to every single Clone simultaneously.
All throughout the galaxy, Yoda would have been assailed not just with the deaths of the Jedi, but the impact of probably millions of thinking, feeling, living beings having their free will and individuality stripped from them.
@@Zombiewithabowtie he'd also probably feel many of the clones dying as well cause if there are 10'000 Jedi and each would be able to take 5 clone troopers out before dying (as a generality), you can cound some 50'000 clones dying in a puff at the same time as the jedi. In the scale of the galaxy that's but a drop in the ocean but it happening at the same time as the jedi still makes it a heavier weight. 10'000 Jedi friend that die and millions of clone soldiers that Yoda considered as individuals and living beings deserving of life, getting their individuality stripped in addition of tens of thousands of them dying in an instant along with the jedi.
And he’d have sensed the very sudden and short mental turmoil among the clones
The chip may give them the order, but Crosshair is an example of clones who WILLINGLY shot the Jedi
the last 4 episodes of CW S7 is the best SW content I have ever seen, especially Mauls monologes with Sam Wittwer as voice actor, made such a brilliant job of mixing his voice with rage/insanity/pondering calm
Order 66 was a genocide on two fronts. The Jedi were a unique faith that was purged over 20 years across the galaxy, but the clones were a victim themselves too. The clones were developing their own unique culture over the course of the war. They had their own individual names and personalities, and it was all wiped out in a few seconds.
Friendships take years to build
Seconds to break
And forever to repair
I would go as far as to argue that the only true victims of Order 66 were the clones. Palpatine was Palpatine. The Senate blindly followed him and his orders. Over the course of the war, the Jedi lost focus and became less about balance and spiritual harmony and more of a militaristic force that used it's power to kill and attack rather than protect and defend. The closed themselves off, becoming secretive and suspicious of others. If you look at it from an outside perspective, the Jedi becoming hated by Republic citizens was just as much their fault as it was Palpatine's. The clones however, were bred for war and had no say in whether they went or not.
@@jellysauce3938 it was just the council mostly. The jedi who weren't involved with it that were actually out on the field were victims of 66 as well. Like the younglings, for example
The jedi genocided the sith.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Well yeah cause the Sith literally just want to kill and wreak havoc
What I find most interesting about the whole Order 66 thing is that Palpatine saw both the Kaminoans and Clones as a means to an end, and once that goal was achieved, he didn't see fit to maintain the clones as an army or maintain the Kaminoans as a force in the galaxy, as shown by the destruction of Kamino by the clones in the Bad Batch season 1 finale
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I’ve always thought that the clone wars act as the setting for the prequels, and not the story itself, which is what makes the Clone Wars T.V. series such a great addition and also separate product from the films. It explores more into a world we’ve only gotten a glimpse of, it delves into the background and details without feeling uninteresting or unimportant.
"Good solders follow orders" *Looks at JEDI Anakin*
"Ahh you good bro" 10:27
If anything, that’s *more* chilling because it shows how long palpatine had been planning this
It's kind of insane how Star Wars has the best and worst examples of how to recontextualize previously established canon
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Personally, I always saw the line, "The mission, the nightmares, they're finally over" as more of a reference to PTSD or shell shock rather than the chip itself.
True, but they're genetically modified. Not everyone exposed to severe emotional trauma gets PTSD. Therefore I suspect that there is a genetic component.
I knew next to nothing about star wars a few months ago, but now I've watched most of it in timeline order, once I learned about order 66, I was scared about what kind of chekhov's gun was shown off. It was definitely super depressing and tragic seeing all of this happen in such a short time. I love how well they depicted order 66 and I hope if they show more, that it's done at the quality of season 7 of the clone wars
I can say in full confidence that clone wars has the very best conclusion to any show ever
It's tied with Breaking Bad for me
Just a small note, the song they play during the Order 66 scenes in the other media is actually a track called "I’m So Sorry", some soundtracks will combine it with either "Anakin's Dark Deeds" (as it was in the film) or "It Can't Be"(the track between them in the official score).
Arguably a perfect name for the soundtrack to the other depictions of Order 66, with Cal and Kanan being sorry they couldn't protect their masters, and Rex/Ahsoka being sorry for both the betrayal and the inability to save the other clones.
That's a really good name for it.
Obviously it comes from Obi saying sorry to Padme, but I love your interpretation
no way they used the hit song by imagine dragons for order 66
I thought it was Anakin's Betrayal that played during Order 66 in ROTS, with Anakin's Dark Deeds in other interpretations of Order 66
Being a kid obsessively following Star Wars to the point that I read The Revenge of the Sith novelization before the movie came out, I had a lot of context for when Order 66 came out and was able to appreciate the scene at the time. The novelization really does go into all the connective tissue and off screen conversations that clearly never made it into the movie but were all in the creator's heads as they were making it. It's like the movie was immune to test screenings and was purely a movie for people who already had the plot in their head when they were editing it.
ah sounds interesting. i should add the novels to my book collection.
Interesting... but that's not how most people (including me) experienced it at the time, so it still doesn't make for some flaws of the movie as it is. Don't get me wrong, I like revenge of the sith, it's my favorite from the prequels, but it could have been done better, been a more solid film overall, if not for these flaws that Schaffrillas point out (mostly that we don't really know the clones nor most of the Jedi that die, and it takes away from the emotional impact it could have.)
@@leovk5779 The Star Wars prequels have always been an example of auteurism gone wrong, this perspective just adds another dimension to it. It has a good story hiding somewhere, but refuses to "compromise" and cut things that have no impact without context to improve the movie.
@@ericc9321 I wouldn't go as far as to say the movies are bad, or have completely gone wrong (though, some parts of the phantom menace...). I like them as it is (least favorite being the 1st, most favorite the 3rd). But you're right, there clearly could have been some cuts in the less important stuff (some of the Senate politics, some of the Anakin/Padme romance), so that they could have fleshed out better some of the underdeveloped important part. Like, we could have followed in the 2nd and 3rd movies a NAMED clone commander and a Jedi bound to be killed in order 66. Like a few scenes: one in the battle of Kamino, the clone commander and the Jedi meet, saving each other's life. Then in the 3rd one, we see them fight side by side, exchange banter in a few occasions, maybe in the space battle over the capitale of the Republic, or in their own distant battle in the outer rim. And then we see the betrayal... that would have left an impact, and made the order 66 more memorable, before we continue on with Anakin's fall and final battle with Obiwan.
Obviously though, that's easy to say afterward, with the help of the insight. That must very difficult to do, when you are head on on a project, with limited means and a deadline, to know what will work and what won't...
If you're talking about the novelization by Matthew Stover then all I can say is, I'm envious. Because after I FINALLY found and read it, I concluded that that book is the best Star Wars anything I have found yet. The only complaint I've ever heard about it is something about the book being intended pretty much only for Star Wars fans. I wish every Star Wars fan could read and enjoy it. But then again, maybe it's just a really good fit for my preferred style of novel.
Highly recommend to all Star Wars fans, give that book a try. If you've already read it, try it again whether you liked it or not.
I honestly feel terrible for the clones. Most of the clones truly liked their generals and got along with them. Look at Obi-wan and Cody, that’s the level of friendship the commanders had with the Jedi. Other clones thought of their generals as heroes that cared for their safety. All those clones in the front lines fought for what they believed was right. Suddenly every clone becomes a passenger in their own body. Seeing and feeling everything around them as they start trying to murder their heroes, idols and friends. They have to go after any Jedi. Being a passenger in your own body being forced to kill Jedi younglings. You can do nothing as you gun down Children and the Generals that went into battle with you. The biggest tragedy of order 66 is that neither side wanted to kill each other. Jedi don’t want to kill the people who supported and helped them and the Jedi don’t want to kill their own allies and friends. Long story short, friends no, family are forced to kill each other.
And then there’s Ki Adi Mundi and the 21st..
I honestly disagree and believe it was more tragic before the chips were introduced. Also most clones were simply brainwashed from the effects so they didn’t really know better
In the 2nd season of the Bad Batch, Crosshair calls the Jedi 'traitors' and you can see a look of regret on Cody's face as he's thinking of what he did to Obi Wan.
10:34 Tup doesn’t attack Anakin, but lunges at the first other jedi he sees. Now that’s some dramatic irony.
Just went and watched season 7. And I happy to say. Clone Wars is the best Star Wars content out there XD
u just saw after it release 2 yrs ago damn
@@UltimateGamer34 I got motivated from this video XD
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Have you seen "Star Wars The Clone Wars is a kids show"? It's awesome to watch on yt. ^^
@@IAzraelI Yeah I love that video XD
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Fives is my personal favorite clone and I will always tear up at his death scene. “I was only trying to do my duty” simply kills me
"fives got bitches…" (if you know, you know)
[it's an acronym]
Y: same
My favourite scene from the bad batch when it comes to order 66 and the inhibitor chips is that one episode where Rex is hanging out with the batch and his defensive reaction when he learns that they haven't removed their chips.Also,if i remember correctly, it's the same episode where Wrecker's chip activates as well
Though it is short, I also want to mention the original star wars Battlefront II game. The narration of the clones as they are tasked with marching on the Jedi Temple are, in my opinion, some of the best lines in the whole of Star Wars.
Yeah those cutscenes were awesome and the narration made it way more gut punching and dreadful.
Common misconception about inhibitor chips: The chips actually contain several different orders that mean different things. This is something brought up in legends where the chips are theoretically able make any clone complaint to any command. From killing the jedi to attesting the chancellor.
However many clones including arc troopers and commandos can and have resisted thier chips as a side effect of genetic augmentations and likely mutations in their DNA that interfere with the chips.
Its still sad that 4 of the 5 delta squad members still fell to the chip. At least one of em was able to make it and help the rebels.
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I wonder if Alpha Class ARCs like Fordo had them. Nala Sai covers up their existence by saying that they were to prevent clones from being as aggressive as Fett but Alphas have been described as being 100% pure Jango Fett and they were personally trained by him if I remember correctly (there were only around 100) so perhaps he requested they be exempt from the process. That would explain why the Kaminoans put them in stasis until the Battle of Kamino (from Republic 50 - 52) due to being unsure if they'd be controllable.
If I'm right, those other orders were there just in case the chips full purpose was found out, so then Palpatine could just say it's a contingency. It's exactly why order 65 existed, to add legitimacy to Palpatines claim
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What’s even more heartbreaking is the scene in which Aayla Secura(blue lady) is killed. In said scene, she is shot in the back and falls to the ground and is repeatedly shot way past what is necessary.
It turns out, Bly(her clone commander) and the other troopers had used so much excessive force because they wanted to make sure she died as quickly and as painlessly as possible. They loved her so much that they were at least able to influence her death, making sure it was quick.
And it’s alluded to that Bly and Aalya had an almost romantic relationship.
Or, another aspect is Plo Koon(orange dinosaur guy) treated his clone unit(Wolf Pack) like his own children. He had wolves on his bracers, one of the LAAT Republic Gunship has graffiti depicting Plo and other members of the wolf pack, and also has “Plo’s Bros” in Aurebesh.
Rip my heart out, why don’t you
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Wasn't it Bly who said "good thing we were wearing helmets, I don't think any of us could've looked her in the eye"
@Ruben Fajardo More like a nameless clone trooper from 2005 Star Wars Battlefront II.
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Re-watching the Phantom Menace after seeing all of the prequel, Contant really gives a whole new meaning to win Palpaten says “We will watch you career with great interest”
Before the inhibitor chip's introduction, the explanation was actually that the clones felt absolutely betrayed by the Jedi. The order signified that the Jedi were to be charged with treason. Imagine being told that the partner you've been fighting with for three years was just announced as being a traitor planning on taking over the Republic you've been fighting for. The immediate response of the clones in the movie didn't help this explanation though.
Yeah for real I can see it to some degree but if I’d known someone for years I’d PROBABLY question that a bit before shooting them
Yeah, but this was made without the assumption that the clones had any personal attachment to the jedi. I mean the clones in AOTC and ROTS are all CGI except for when they take their helmets off. Just shows how robotic they are meant to be. I can't imagine Rex to just straight up be like "What? Ahsoka betrayed us? Kill her!", it would take a lot for a clone to jump from learning their jedi is treasonous, to massacre them on the spot.
@@MM-vs2et You have to keep in mind that the Clones are essentially child soldiers. They were rapidly aged so they enter service at 10 years old. They tell us this in episode 2. I personally find this a better explanation for their undying loyalty to Palpatine than the inhibitor chips, but I can understand why it was probably a better choice for the animated series. Additionally, I think that the original premise can still explain why some clones didn’t follow order 66. In canon it was the older, more developed cloned who went awol, but overall it came down to the clone in question. What I like about the pre-chip order 66 is that it makes the clones more human in a way. They are reacting to a perceived betrayal, so I find it natural that there would be a multitude of reactions across the breadth of the Clone Army. That most clones would choose the easy option of revenge against the Jedi’s betrayal fits into this framework. Furthermore, this reinforces the logic behind the older clones who are in leadership positions choosing to disobey the order, since naturally they interacted with the Jedi Generals more often and could feasibly become more emotionally attached to them.
@@Porcrhind It’s also noted that clones in general have been genetically modified to be more subservient. It’s not clear to what extent this applies but I always just assumed between their comparatively young age, genetic modifications, and t thorough conditioning causing them to be extremely dedicated to the Republic and following orders. I guess the chips work fine enough and it’s not lie the tech is unreasonable for the setting it does come off as a bit more cheap.
remember that's there's millions of clones and only 10 thousand Jedi.... and not all of them were fighting alongside the clones
90% of clones probably never talked to a jedi
Quite honestly the most devastating finale of any show. It really feels like the end of the world.
You know what the worst part of it is? Yes, it is the end of the world, everything is wrong and nothing will ever be right again. But Rex and Ahsoka have to get back up and keep going.
It is the first day of the rest of their lives.
I have no show that comes to mind right now that ends in such a sad and devastating ending... a punch in the gut it was and it was one of the best executed ending for a show I have ever seen so far, animated or otherwise.
@@paocut9018 what about the 90s dinosaur sitcom
Actually the most devastating finale of any show is Game of Thrones Season 8 because it literally collapsed the show's legacy
This is becoming a UA-cam video to watch during dinner classic.
The inhibitor chips was honestly one of the better “retcons” in modern mainstream fictional media because they’ve done a better job than most franchises to flesh it out
What I remember most about The Rise of The Empire is...how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts, any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps but no one said anything. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched on The Jedi Temple. Not a word...
*and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple.
Man, I could hear the OG Battlefront II narrator say that while readding your comment.
_"This story happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. It is already over. Nothing can be done to change it."_
A quote from the novelization of _Revenge of the Sith_ by Matt Stover that I couldn't get out of my head after the Clone Wars Season 7 finale. There's something fantastic about anticipation, in knowing that the majority of your audience is already fully aware of the ending you're building to and playing into it wholesale. I feel like a lot of creatives try too hard to avoid that these days; to lean on shock and awe vs. anticipation and the raw, nauseating suspense of the inevitable that can be built by a story. It was never going to end any other way, and the Clone Wars team had the grace to allow that to breathe, to build, and gave us one of the most brilliant moments in the history of the franchise as a result.
"Though the age of the Republic is nearly over, it has saved its best for last" has always stuck with me. That, and the paragraph on love being a shining nova. It's a really good piece of star wars fiction, some of the best.
Beautiful way of describing it. The finale is one of my favorite star wars things EVER! I've started to put some TV stuff into my Star Wars Ranking. Here's my Top 3 Things Star Wars:
1. Empire
2. A New Hope
3. The Clone Wars 4 Part Series Finale
It’s that sense of suspense Hitchcock was talking about. The audience knows there’s a bomb underneath the table, the bomb under that table has been ticking for hours, but the characters don’t know there’s a bomb there, so we’re just sitting in this pool of nausea waiting to see when and how the bomb will go off who it will hurt and how the characters will react to it.
Reminds me of a lyric from the musical Hadestown (Story of Orpheus and Eurydice)
“To know how it ends and still begin to sing it again, as if it might turn out this time”
Battlefront 2 (2005) had a campaign playing as a 501st soldier, and their account of Order 66 is tragic too.
In Heart of Darkness, where you fight on Falucia with Ala Seqota (the Twi’Lek Jedi), the narrator (you as the soldier) says “When her death came, I hope it was quick, she earned that much,” “When the 501st was finally rotated off of Falucia, Ala Seqota made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soliders she’d ever seen; It’s a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bare to look her in the eye.”
In Underground Ambush, “With the death of General Grievous at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi, the Utapowa raid had broken the back of the Separatist alliance. Under normal circumstances it would’ve been a time for celebration, but our next order put pain to those thoughts.”
In Knightfall, “What I remember about the rise of the empire is… is how quiet it was,” “It was a silent trip, we all knew what was about to happen; what were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word, not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi temple; not a word.”
This was before the Inhibitor chip was a thing, and honestly, makes Order 66 impactful from a clone’s perspective. They could still revolt, but maybe they were scared that they’d be the only traitor and wouldn’t last long, or maybe the order was legitimate and they’d be fighting the wrong side. You could also slide this into clone wars cannon, as perhaps this 501st trooper had a botched Inhibitor chip, and that’s why he can recollect about all of these events instead of acting like a robot with the other clones when the order came.
I don't even think you need to introduce a botched inhibitor chip into the mix.
The 501st trooper did follow orders, and nothing suggest he wasn't acting like a robot. In fact his statement about being quiet all the way to Coruscant rather support the idea he acted like a robot.
He was capable of independent thought and recollection, like all clones, and he followed orders regardless like all clones. A functioning inhibitor chip is the best explanation for even his actions, it fits right into the cannon as is.
Ik this comment is old but the botched spelling of Aayla Secura 😭
The end of rebels is honestly really powerful. I feel a lot for Kanan now and seeing him in Order 66 broke my heart
The umbara arc, the fives’ last arc, and the order 66 arc are probably tied for my favorite arc overall, and I think the reason doesn’t need that much explaining. All of these arcs explored the clones in a unique and deep way, and turned some of them into some of my favorite Star Wars characters of all time.
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Fives is my favorite character. Don't judge me.
@@RaptorRockDrakeJesus fives is 100% my favorite clone. I’d say favorite tcw character but ahsoka exists and had more of a chance for an arc
@@djsalad5752 mine is maul, i just love the way he's written and his voice actor is phenomenal
Honestly, the 2005 Battlefront 2 has some of my favorite bits of order 66. The clones having the inhibitor chips is cannon now, but the clones having to make these dark decisions that were indoctrinated by birth to follow hits a bit harder than "we turned on the jedi kill switch"
Hearing Temuera Morrison talk about the clones suppressing their second thoughts about following the orders just hits so hard. Honestly, all of the story telling in that game's campaign is so fucking good
I'd be lying if I said I didn't say I wish we could've seen Clone Wars go in that direction (basically do the Umbara arc several more times to make the Clone actually want the Jedi to go away) but like Schaff said, the Chips are still a great and tragic addition.
Yeah, and that temple siege went down WAY harder than in the movie. Those damn archives, god how I hated them!
_"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."_
I still think it would be better if there was no chip and think it would be a better if was something like “clone are breed to being very loyal to the republic/empire” and would still be just as tragic. Not that munch of fan of the chip thing
Without the chips, it's the equivalent of putting your pet down due to various reasons
Before I watched clone wars, I was depressed at order 66 (I was about eleven). But after clone wars and growing to love Aayla, Plo, the other Jedi, as well as the e other clones, I am devastated as I watch it. I can’t help but cry as I watch them die.
Honestly, when I originally saw it when I was eight, I was sad cause it was just Jedi being killed. But after the clone wars, and a bit of growing up, it finally hit me that this was a pre-meditated act of genocide. That honestly adds a whole new layer of horror to order 66 In my mind.
A cool detail in Fallen Order is that, for those expecting Order 66, there’s a moment right before you reach Jaro Tapal, when a clone shoots at Cal as part of the training, and it honestly made me go “Oh shit, here we go!”
The one thing though about order 66 is that some clones were more complacent to the order than others. Take Ki-Adi-Mundi for example. He treated his clones and other beings as just objects. No attachment whatsoever. It’s why he was a bad Jedi. He took his detachment from other creatures and beings too seriously and so had no empathy or sympathy for most life. So his clones turning on him makes more sense. They’d resent him and thus wouldn’t hesitate as much to gun him down. Versus clones like the Wolf pack or the 501st. The wolf pack had a personal bond with Plo Koon, saw him as one of their own. Because he respected all of them, showed them they were more than just tools and weapons. He was a true Jedi through and through. Like Qui Gon I’d have to say. Plo Koon was loyal to his clones and treated them like people, not things. And so when they gunned him down, I believe it’s in legends or something, they had a sense of dismay and reluctance. I think it’s even described that Wolfe personally shot him down as an act of mercy and kindness. And with the 501st. Again, both Anakin and Ahsoka treated the clones like family instead of just things and objects. They also have a massive bond, some more than others. Which is why when order 66 is initiated it’s heart breaking to see them turn on her, and we can physically see them being reluctant to carry it out. Because they all love her. But then it takes control and forces them to
It was Bly who shot Secura as a mercy. The Wolfpack didn't seem to be on Cato Nemoida with Plo Koon, and he was flying with a new wingman instead of Wqrthog, his usual partner.
@@sampelletier9798 my bad. But still, kinda my pout. Right?
@@ryankronenbitter2013 Oh yeah, certainly.
It really explains why Wolffe is so messed up in Rebels.
@@carlycrays2831 apparently I’m wrong on this, my bad. But still, you get a sense of how the different clones reacted depending on how their Jedi masters treated them
For years I had put off watching the clone wars due to the stigma of "it was a kids show", but eventually I was like, I love Star Wars I'll just watch it anyways. I can't even begin to speak about how much more emotionally impact-full the entirety of Revenge of Sith is. It makes the entire last hour of ep3 feel like a never ending train of tragedy.
a lot of things 'just for the kids' is actually deeper and contains some adult jokes
there was a time when "a kids show" didn't treat kids like brain-dead beings, looking back at the old shows I used to watch I give some of them more respect and admiration in the fact that they didn't hold my hand like I was going to fall up into the ceiling or that they aren't entirely doodoo and fart jokes
I watched Clone Wars growing up. It gave me many nightmares. To the point I wasn't allowed to watch it before bed.
Anakin's Dark Deeds is also used in that scene in KotOR where Revan receives the vision where the Sith army says ''ALL HAIL LORD REVAN! ALL HAIL LORD REVAN! ALL HAIL LORD REVAN!'' It is as powerful as it was in Revenge of the Sith.
21:09 I feel quite fortunate to be a late-comer to Star Wars. I only started it in September 2022, so I watched all of Clone Wars first before watching Rebels. It was a very pleasant surprise to me seeing Rex in Rebels after seeing how the last season of Clone Wars ended, even if Rebels was a severe downgrade. Thankfully Rex and Ahsoka's conflict in Clone Wars was even more impactful for me because I watched Rebels only after I finished Clone wars