BIG PIKE FISHING with DEADBAITS! - TAFishing Show
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2014
- www.totallyawesomefishing.com/ Pike fishing tips are what all predator fisherman want. So Graeme Pullen tries some deadbaiting for big Pike and puts out some theories on how you can guage how big your Pike is. In his search to find some Pike to measure he joins up with lure specialist Nathan Brotherton and the pair latch into an AWESOME double catch of lunker predators! Sardine bait for Graeme, Rainbow Trout for Nathan. This film will suit beginners and experienced alike, and will certainly get you thinking "outside the box!". Just under an hour long, its yet another exclusive for The Totally Awesome Fishing Show, another solo film for fishermen to lure into.
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watching this really makes me wanna go pike fishing!
Cracking fish chaps, there's not many times you'll see two huge Pike like that on camera together. A very rare sight indeed, top angling. Look forward to the next instalment.
Nice fishing show ! Great fish !!
great as usual Graeme. Could listen to you all day mate (and do on youtube when the missus is watching crap on the tellybox) Always informative.
Graeme my dear, you have just totally blown my mind! Your clip started with the piking tunes, then the Marlins sadly lost noses from the deeps as treasured items now encased in resins as keepsakes, and then you are sat open the cars boots edge with the tackle box, like Pandors jar once so gifted from my childhood! On the very day, and its gets better, so please bear with me, that despite some terrible weather, I had written as a mere youngster, to the Daily Fishermans Weekly, a prior questioned letter, of what to expect of Pike at Double Locks in Exeter, and if I'd need a bigger net sold to me, as no idea what a chum trail might involve, yet to unfold so later clearly. So prior to its publications printing, I ran to Derek of the Black Swan Angling, down in Dawlish, where Martin of later than Cofton Farms earlier acclaim, became a writer and photopgrapher for fishings weeklies readers monthlies Improve Your Coarse Fishing, and hell bent to any clement, or wisdoms, signs sent, I bought that 36" neck frames sleek black length, as an experiment. SO off we trot, the two of as sat, watching weeds like kelps or kelpies, withing the locks deeps traps, then realised this was no Richard Burton sent weed, its red tipped edges where a ball of Roaches Pikes heaven sent and entrapped live feed! So with roach pole and some baiting, we caught a few for unallowed livebaiting and yet good to rules, we did not dare, just marvelled at them in a tin, in a moments, wonderous, reflected in those red fins stare. We released them and plodded on with our deadbaits seesion, not a moments noticing, so much as a twitch or bob or movement, to our so pleasing in appearances lack of floats best quoted notions. Until along comes a wellied up, parker jackted fine gentleman, whose name I still remember, as his cast aloft lone spinner, called in the only frozen moments bar of peppered crocodiles existences depended upon toothy smile, for all to wonder of! Thus he showed us a Frosty Jacks own way that day, that a moving target was the way, and then suggested to my inquitives natures be, that I use that Toby spinner, sat within that very tacklebox upon your lap this day. He gave me a wire trace and told be to be bold and trust in its rolled silver trails own sway. So sent aloft I did and landed it, within the thickest deepest weed beds known limits. I counted it down, with a frown, then started to reel in, finding of course, buried so deep beneath that then scaffoldery, that it was set tight already upon the bottom, my one and only sea fishing lure, now consigned until its ruin. Until as others watched my rods strains attempted lack of its losseing, like my mind was not already Richard Burton, upon the gaze of onlookers Peasants zapped with heat rayed vision, until I, despite the air blue thrown frozen questions, of had I hooked the Double Lochs once famous Nessies cousin, responded gruffly and abruptly, that "Nah mate....its just the bottom as seems usual buddie!", as then so suddenly, with alarm I felt, the Leviathans miraculous, perhaps, first de-slumbered somehows, head shaken movement! Was this some Elder Gods quibbled dreams, I had so boldly cast unto, by happenschanced my way, without realisation, or was this, just a merest slip of chance, as the kinder elder had so said in passing, to "Now go catch Grandma!", as I let that clutches line strip, so far away, into the distances unmeasured, far reached destiny! Thus I reeled and reeled away, and found a pile of gigantic weeds entangled mess to my my my own and all onlookers, the drinkers, at their arisen maskless stations, from their outdoor tables dismayed visions! Just a new fangled age old mess. A Weedless lure may have curated best their prides chest, as then the Abyss sent weed raft, did cause a cacophony of pure man v natures best intent! So that net was worth the buck and every time I, did I tell about that day that maybe, did I, catch the monster or did it have a laugh, as far larger than the fishes size, is the surprise seen within each glimpsed, or hushed tones mention of, its effect upon yours and others tallest tales or cherished 19's....no na na no ninteens! As it weighed in at 18.75lbs and it took me, a since hooked of course, dedicated lure fishermans now devouted life, at least in dreams, 10 years to meet its River Runs Endless most majestics moments, in that single seconds, honest love, of that.... perhaps.... not so lone water wolfs radiances reflected sheens! As each lure casts splash, just may be...that tallest tailed of prehistoric evolutions wizardry! Or something else that Smelts that day, felt short of par with a spinning silver tobied bar of imitation, of some Roach set frees own shoaled best unJaHred well natured intentions!
Awesome program again Graeme!
Great sized Pike. Wish we had them in Australia.
I think the big just ate a duck!!!
Well done Graeme and Nathan......another great video
Excellent. Those poke were impressive. I love your enthusiasm.
Fantastic once again Graeme !
Here in the US, I've seen this exact formula EVERYWHERE for obtaining weights for muskie (if you don't know, muskies are the pike's larger American cousin). It's pretty widely known that the formula is inaccurate, at least in my fishing circle. It seems though that the emphasis is more on length of the fish instead of the actual weight when it comes to muskies.
The videos are indeed TOTALLY AWESOME! The species and tactics are very different from what I'm used to in the States (truthfully it makes me giggle a bit to see y'all flinging maggots everywhere) but I've learned some invaluable stuff that can be applied to any fishing situation anywhere, for any species---in particular river float fishing---and of course the videos are just a plain joy to watch!
Nice work graham. Great catch 🎣
Graham, you still sound like a teenager when you catch a nice fish ha ha. great video :-)
Great video, very funny as per usual. Regarding the weight formula's I do agree with you when you said that particular formula was for maybe one fish species. If by chance someone that concentrated on catching a certain species, they could technically come up with a formula for that species. That's a whole new topic because I'm no good at maths :D. Again great video thank you for sharing TAFishing!.
that trout he caught would be a huge one to catch in a stocked lake or creek in America. I didnt know they would eat dead fish like that...I may try that next season.
The pike in alberta Canada can be short and stocky as well as long and skinny almost like an eel - so we usually go by weight- have had a 13 # pike at 39 inches and a. 24 # pike at 31 inches !!- keep the videos coming!!
great video as usual
Thank you very much
Awesome mate 👍
great show graeme enjoyed it & i`ve alway felt that measuring just doesn`t get it GOOD FISHING
Great video graham, I can't believe your luck. When are you going to do more sea fishing?
Great video, super brace boys.
Enjoyable rambling show.
Awesome,stunning Monsters! It seems that all the commotion in the water attracts the smaller Pike first! Then later on,The Monster Pike begin to attack! Thanks guys.
Which weighing scales read out correctly? One way to do The Real Test is to get your Scales Callibrated and Tested at :- Royal Weights and Measures! They don't mess about and can weigh to the smallest of measurements!
Hi guys ive just recently started pike fishing and I just wanted to know what the best conditions are for deadbaiting.
Big fan by the way love the videos keep them coming
Great video👍🏻
Nice Pike But Them Rainbow Trout Were A Very Nice Catch
Well Done Lads
Loving it !
@TAfishing ok thank you so much! Might have a look around online for a boat club and check it out
Fantastic!
I weigh what I catch on a spring dial scale then take a picture of the fish with a tape for reference. Those pike where superb what a great looking fish, the ultimate ambush predator design!
Really enjoyed this one guys. One question though, does Nathan sea fish or is he a dedicated coarse fisher? Was wondering if he ever lure fishes the coast? I have never trusted the length to weight formula so I was glad to see you put that one in its rightful place.
Funny as though it seems, I had this happen yesterday on the Blandford Stour......Another pikeman caught a 5lb Rainbow at Xmas on float fished sprat,
OK, a Litre of water weighs precisely 1 Kg - That's the beauty of the metric System!! (a Litre plastic bottle of pop/water can be used to calibrate close enough as the actual empty bottle weighs next to now't) A 2 Litre bottle will be 2 Kg - be assured the Pop/water makers measures will be spot on!!
Bang on..that's how I make sure my scales are working properly
Revisited this to remind myself of lures. I am interested in your grip around the fish. I have only caught small fish but found that the grip you use didn't work for me. I was concerned that I would damage the fish. Is it just a matter of gripping it tighter or is there a feature in the fishes anatomy that you get you fingers round. Cheers and many thanks.
Seems the girth length calculation may need adjusting for species. Divide by 800 for barbel, fine, but the pike obviously not. But dividing by 715 does work for the pike.
Awesome video thanks
We're glad you like it!
Where do you go fishing? It seems the area you fish don't have any restrictions and regulations.
U could add the avg percentile error specifically cor each species/genus
mackerel is actually a good bait for trout if you put chunks on the hook
Rainbows on sprats....? Brilliant!
try using a couple of bags of sugar as your weight for testing the scales accuracy ?
I was wondering if you caught a decent size pike , let's say 10lb , would it be able to snap / break rod(shakespeare omni)
ClashWithLouis I would say not,but you need to set the reel's drag so line can be pulled off
What you need to do next is to work out a different constant for different species of fish. Divide 800 by the actual decimalised weight and multiply it by the lower weight it came up with for the fish which will give you a smaller constant and then you can do that for a few fish and take a mean average.
Love it
Now that was good ...,nathans wound there looks painfull.i've fished in thailand a couple of times on a day ticket for red tail catfish [catch n release or catch n eat] obviously i opted for the latter it was to hot to take meat paste butties lol..the whole day inc ticket, rod hire ,bait and the fish cooked and served cost £7.00..awesome or what ?! ;]
you mention twitching your deadbaits every so often, how exactly are u twitching it? do u reel it at all? how many 'twitches', how often?
cheers!
i worked out the last pike weight but divided it by 700 which give it a weight of 21.18
I would think you would need a separate equation for different types of fish.
A pike would be longer than a bass, and any girth would effect the weight over a longer span.
Hi guys! Very nice video!
Just a curiosity for you. Also wikipedia gives a formula (pike specific) for obtaining the weight of the fish from the length (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_pike). According to their measure the 39-inch pike should have been around 15.1 lbs. So wrong. Just for the sake of discussion... it seems very strange to me that a respected source gives an information so erroneous. Might be the case that for pike the formula works better in summer when they are ready for the bathing suit test, rather than in winter, when they tend to put up weight? The question next becomes: what is on average the weight variation for a pike between cold and hot season?
I Need to find a way to catch the same fish twice in a six months spell to check it out...mmmm this might be tricky. :-)
Thanks again for the videos!!!
What was the location for both days fishing I’ve never fished for pike but looks awesome action and my lad is desperate to give it go thanks in advance
Hi Graeme big fan, I would just like to say, is there anything you can do with the sound, i.e when it goes from dialogue
At say volume 4 on the T.V on to background music and the volume goes really hi, usually wakes the twins up, I was wondering
If there is anything you can do your end? Sometimes jump out my seat with fright, we have tried everything our end, can you see what
You can do, we are huge fans and always watching and especially learning all the time, it's like the music volume is way out of balance
With dialogue, thanks guys Avid fans🎣🐟
P.S we are not having a go at you.😀
You mentioned in one of your videos about buying bait in Morrisons, or at least I think that's what you said :-D Did I hear right and if so what was it. I have searched through the videos again and I can't find the right bit.
Yes we buy our sprats from Morrisons
Thank you, will check that out
TAFishing i enjoy your vids alot, i understand its really aimed at the new guys, but even my self an old hand (not as old as you :-D) am able to pick up the odd little idea, apart from that its just nice to see how other anglers do it, i like the tewitched sprat, beleive or not i had never done it choosing to wobble roch and smelt ect with good results, tried the sprats, bought from tesco,s day befor and put in the fridge for early start, by the time i got to the water absolutly honking. only got 5 6 cast out of each befor the gut cavity was exposed. I never buy fresh fish to eat from supermarkets so i sure as hell have never used them for bait before your vids! you ever find this a problem? or is it just usual that they are a bit manky?
Were you fishing Dever springs Graeme for them pike and how did you get permission??
Would a small minnow or a strip of smelt for big trout
bruce forsive of the fish world haha ,, awsome channel thow
Cool
What deeps would you put that dead bait ?
In winter about three quarters of whatever depth you are fishing.
TAFishing Im fishing a lough up to about 200ft, what depth would you recommend to fish it for pike?
DTurboMark Never fished pike that deep,but I would not bother with the deep water.Around the margins up to 20 feet deep,5 to 12 feet ideal,especially if weed on the bottom .Maybe around islands if it has any,or near points of land/rocks etc that slope out into the water.Most of the baitfish will be around that depth as well.Good luck.
How long does it usual take to catch a pike
Kitchen scales are are more for quantity, as in "ratio" rather than true weight, yes I do a lot of cooking. Really "accurate" ,for instance meat scales in say 1oz increments up to say 5olb can cost many hundreds of pounds £ G.B.S.
Hi I'm from Newcastle Australia, I'm 14 and wanting to get a boat for my birthday, I don't have a dad so I don't know anything about boats for fishing, I was wondering if you could give me a few ideas what I should look for like what horsepower, the size for 2 people and yeah it would be really helpful!
You don't say whether you mean freshwater or salt. For lakes a 12 footer with about a 4hp outboard should be enough to get you around. Take oars/phone/safety equipment. For sea work, minimum 17 feet I would say, which would mean a 40/60hp outboard. Best to get in touch with your local boat fishing club,they will give better advice as to what you are after. Might even have a junior section,but don't go out alone at your age. Maybe you should have a few trips out with adults,see what their ideas on boats are. Always think safety. I reckon you should try a boat club first.
Nice vid,ADVERTS are a downer
i'm looking to buy one of them green soft lures and i can't find them anywhere. does anyone know where can i buy them from?
Hi where abouts is this lake as I'm desperate for a good pike venue
whats the name of the song at the start mike?
try spinners i caught a 13lbs jack pike
where was that?
The formula is to generalized and thus not good to use because as you mentioned fish have different shapes! with that said, more specific formulas are derived from statistical growth data from scientific studies. W=aL^b , where a is species specific and b is an exponent that averages around 3 and various between different species with a b>3 trending more to larger girthed fish. There are specific ones for pike and I did a study on channel catfish that was pretty accurate based off previously recorded data and resulting function I found online. I would imagine to get very accurate, the data recorded and subsequent formula would need to be done either over the length of a year or for specific seasonal patterns. Flathead out of a wintering hole vs. One going into spawn might see a 10 pound delta on the same fish. Just one of the factors that needs to be addressed in these types of studies. Watching all the pike videos over again to get ready for pike season near me.
Lucas Balistreri wow I’d say your great fun in a pub 🙄
graeme were do the 800 come ,from..
If it's American inches they are slightly bigger than imperial inches that might make the difference .
use a known weight object such as a bag of sugar
Worth every finger freezing moment, nice one guys shame Mike has a week bladder.
You mean he had held it up for seven days?
You get red snapper over your way ?
No,nothing exotic over here.All our species are cold water, mainly seabed dwelling species.
what reels do you use ?
Think this was the Tok 4000 ,but I spooled up with 12lb line if I recall.
Have you an industrial freezer cos you have a he'll of a lot various baits left over lol😉🙄
check the good ladys scales with a unopened bag of sugar graeme to compare
where abouts is this?
Where is this lake please?
It's down to Hooke's Law that the spring scales are accurate despite what most people think.
THE9LOL7ABLE ---- You've got you physics and materials science mixed up there...
@@Liofa73 Hooke's law is a law of physics that states that the force (F) needed to extend or compress a spring by some distance x scales linearly with respect to that distance. That is: F=kx, where k is a constant factor characteristic of the spring: its stiffness, and x is small compared to the total possible deformation of the spring. The law is named after 17th-century British physicist Robert Hooke. Source Wikipedia: Hookes law.
All sciences tend to cross over at some point, I wasn't debating WHICH one was correct, but merely that this law (albeit more physics than "materials science") is why the SPRING balances were more accurate in their measurements than the other scales, in this small non-conclusive test. However, I do see why you would think material sciences are interlinked with this.
Though the definition of Materials science is known as: The interdisciplinary field of materials science, also commonly termed materials science and engineering, is the design and discovery of new materials, particularly solids. Source:Wikipedia -> Material science 1st Paragraph. So I would say its more physics than material science but it really doesn't matter as long as we all learn.
Hi there Graeme.
Found a site the offered a formula L x G2 / 1400 for pike (www.campmanitoufishing.com/northern-pike-weight-formula.htm). Needless to say it completely messed up the weight. I'm thinking these formulas are area specific as well as species specific. If you measured say 10 fish along with their weights you could formulate a constant (the division part of the equation) specific for the species as well as area. It appears you are applying a generally accepted formula for brown trout to pike which may explain the error. (www.myoan.net/fishing/weight_calc.html) A quick calculation (20 minutes later) and I figure a constant of 707.5 with a 10% variance for pike. What you reckon?
why dosent the pikes go to bite your hand when you measured them?
They only eat fish,not people.They have no interest in biting you.Just that careless hands sometimes get knocked by a tooth if the Pike suddenly flips.
TAFishing
so there as harmless as a small perch, maybe i should try fish for them
Checking scales: weigh several known volumes of water in a plastic bag to compare the calabration of your scales and do the maths. Spring balance scales are only good in the middle of the scale range. There is some error at each end of the scale. We measure live length to compare fish sizes. A fish in roe or full of food will weigh heaver - determining fish size is not an exact science.
its a crocadilo lol 34.50
Watching people pull loose, fully made up rods out of cars triggers me so much, even Mick Brown and Matt Hayes were at it in a video I watched yesterday. I pack everything away in their bags and boxes every single time unless its pitch black, torrential rain or minus and I make everything up on the bank. My buddy makes his rods up at home and says it saves him time but the reality is it doesn't catch you more fish, I can honestly say he has never caught a fish in the time it takes me to set up my gear.
wats a barracuder lol. sry 4 spelling. size and wieght, gurf,
Would be fun to fish with you :D fun man '::D
The measurement equation to find the weight of the fish has completely thrown me. How for instance would the calculator show a fish that was calculated to weigh 5lb 12oz? The calculator works in denominations of tens and not 16's.
Lets say the calculator shows 5.12....that's 5lbs 1.2oz and not 5lbs 12oz. I hope you see what I mean? Do the ounces need to be converted using lowest common denominator?
Regardless, it was a great show. Can you show us the correct way to hold the pike please?
Mike Williams 5.12 would be about 5lb 2oz. just divide 16oz by 10, so every .1 would be 1.6oz.
Hello every one I bought this SALAR Irish spinner which is for salmon but I don't have a license to fish salmon and I was wondering if It is leagle to have without a license and could i use it for pike can any one tell me please and thank you.
You can use it BUT if you get salmon you need to release it!!
Saku Partanen
Ok thanks .
Get yourself a calibrated 1kg or 2lb weight. You can calibrate these at your local weights and measures office. Once calibrated, check your digital scales with it. The point is to know how much over or under your own scales are. Once you know that, Bobs your uncle....
Or a 2lb bag of sugar ,which many of us used to do.
@@TAFishing Very funny...….:)
Sorry matey acctually the back groung music is totaly awsome. It would be a bit plain if there was no background music. Sorry again. Totally awsome way.......
Can you bring them home for food?
In the UK we tend to put everything back or there would be nothing left to catch.Other countries might be different,but sea fish will taste better than freshwater.
TAFishing Agreed we need to put them back, but there's nothing wrong with Perch or Pike to eat. They taste fantastic!
hyptormors why would you want to kill two 20lb pike to eat, pike fishing is a sport, catch and release here in the UK, kill everything you catch and there will be nothing left! Just utter senseless killing of a fish!
@alanrtment porter i remember seeing it mate, the guide he was with looked highly embarrassed with no catches if i remember! Huge huge lakes and reservoirs in some countries can handle fish being taken for the table, but with Cormorants and otters, crayfish and pollution we in Britain simply can't afford for our fish to be taken for the table, there will be nothing left! Totally agree with you, just go to a supermarket or fishmongers if you're that desperate
Once you get past that "best channel on youtube" palava, your videos are enjoyable to watch, great brace of pike! Would you be able to check out my little stillwater pike video from recent, I landed a personal best! Keep it up Graeme!
Tom
Sorry about the "Palava" ,but pleased you enjoyed the film. Congrats on your new P.B. its important that youngsters keep trying to better their catches rather than catch just one monster fish on their first trip.Always be pleased when you pass that target,particularly for young anglers just starting out.That's why we do all-round angling....gives us so many more P.B.'s to beat.
Leave them out of the water as long as possible!
It´s healthy for them!
The formula doesn't work because fish have different thickness and fatness to them. Also, the same fish with food in its stomach will weigh more than when its stomach is empty.
Precisely..that's why I am never impressed by weight-for-length formulas..having weighed fish and using the formula,they have never come out at what the scales really say...seems all the fashion to use nowadays though ,but I take it all with a pinch of proverbial salt.
instead of weighing random leads graeme why not nick a few bags of your mrs sugar out of the kitchen with her scales each one weighs 2.2 ilbs,???
Love the videos guys, can't beat a bit of angling humour! (Graeme!!). I've just started my own UA-cam Channel, and would love your subscription. Tight Lines and Bloody hooks!
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I would weigh all your fish on your wife's scales mike +4oz
Calm down will ya..
The background music is so annoying. Pls dnt edit music in the back ground again.