Cant believe Hutch made the list!! He's still with us, btw, & doing fine. Great guy. Learned so much from him when I was at a very young age in this sport.
In the 80s, they wouldn't even let you see the inside of a bowling alley unless you had visible signs of male pattern baldness. Fortunately for me, I'd have been fine.
@@crimsontide1980 and still doing it, he was in southern oregon but has since moved back to Texas , has a pro shop and doing a little electrical work also, he won the senior masters a few years back. thanks take care.
Honestly, Miki's backswing generates a ton of power in her shot. That's how I was when I used to bowl. I didn't have such an exaggerated approach, but at one point, I had a super-high backswing, because my game was all about power and revs.
Great vid. Cool to see some old schoolers hold their own (strike is a strike). Be fun to have a "classic" match of modern bowlers and old school eq and oil patterns and vise versa.
Miki Nishimura has an interesting style but I think there were more similar to her in Japan. Yumiko Sato had a similar release but she threw with less axis tilt than Nishimura.
I bowled against him in college. Back in college I remember his back swing being much more behind his back and the elbow bent much more. When he made the PBA shows it looks like he smoothed it all out and looks pretty traditional in today's game.
Changed the title to "UNIQUE STYLES" because I feel like saying Unorthodox isn't right. (BTW - Sorry if people were upset for me adding Amleto and Matt as some people say they're not unorthodox. But the next video will be great. Lowest Scores Part 3 is coming soon.)
Frankly, as remarkable as his power game appears to the only-so-well-trained eye, I'm not sure Rudy even belongs on this list. As "unique styles" go, he's really nothing more than Pete Weber (circa 1980) with a remarkably visible measure of upper body strength..
This reminds me of the time I went bowling. I freaked out because the waiter brought me a rum and coke with too much ice. I bowled 10 gutter balls in a row. The bowling ally management insisted I leave the premises.
The thing is a lot of people question why I have such a high backswing I’m 5’0 btw and my backswing is arm length above my head so people say it shouldn’t be so high but it’s natural. I am not really a power player but that’s how I generate my few revs
I agree with all of these. Great list! Hey I saw a guy on one of the European compilations and his ball went straight up above his head, as high at possible, and then he just stopped it there for like a full second. I wish I knew his name.
I bowled against O'Grady in high school when he was at st Joseph and I was at Colonia My mother was very proud when I told her he won a pba title as she was a JR bowler director at Edison lanes when he bowled a few tournaments there
I don't see O'Grady or Monacelli as unorthodox. If they are, you could put Richie/Dick Allen as unorthodox, because of his hand on the ball. That's how I see it, but I can tell where/why you'd say O'Grady and Monacelli
@@fongbrandon well, his style seems to define how most crankers throw today, albeit with higher backswings and less of a bent elbow at followthrough (eventually he got rid of that and throws more of a tweener/stroker nowadays).
Today they would not be considered unorthodox at all but in the 80s Monacelli was told he'd never last on tour because his shoulder would fall apart. Kasimakis was all about rev rate before that was even a term. Ryan Shafer got criticized because it looked like he was coming out of his shoes at the foul line.
they slid Hoskins in this one. I watched this guy at the Orleans, very effective controlled swing, not much backswing though. I gotta say his straight ball for spares is downright perfect though
@@benhelps813 I kinda figured since it looked like he was throwing the big hook back then which isn’t easy to do. I’m just saying the Form in General looks like Kris
I only go bowling once every few years with my family so i can honestly say these styles look a lot more orthodox than anything I'm used to. Well apart from the Japanese lady
Rudy Kasimakis if he’s in here his style is basically normal with a high backswing like Mike Fagan, and I’ve never seen a girl with a backswing like that, reminds me of myself when I was 13, and I don’t think Fagan has been in any of these Video’s he also use a Sarge Easter Grip which is you middle finger is a finger tipped hole and the ring finger is a conventional drill, I had to switch to that due to a torn ligament in my ring finger, now I’m gonna have to come up with some kinda unconventional style my slide foot is too messed up to ever really use again it’s dead weight I wish they would just cut it off for me but they won’t
She quit professional bowling abruptly in 2016. No reason was given but an anonymous bowling alley official later revealed she stole 60000 yen from her local bowling center.
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When I saw Miki, all I could think was *Mike Fagan has entered the chat lol
The king of the swing and the queen of the swing 🤣
Cant believe Hutch made the list!! He's still with us, btw, & doing fine. Great guy. Learned so much from him when I was at a very young age in this sport.
In the 80s, they wouldn't even let you see the inside of a bowling alley unless you had visible signs of male pattern baldness. Fortunately for me, I'd have been fine.
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Anthony looks bowls like he’s about to give up halfway through his swing lol
Amleto really helped pave the way for small guys figuring out how to get real revs on the ball.
check out chris warren, he is even smaller great bowler and
a great ball driller
@@alansabin7487 Ah yea I remember Chris. Was always amazed how much power he could generate as small as he is
@@crimsontide1980 and still doing it, he was in southern oregon
but has since moved back to Texas , has a pro shop and
doing a little electrical work also, he won the senior masters
a few years back. thanks take care.
@@alansabin7487 That's awesome, glad he's still competing and doing what he loves. I appreciate your response! Have a great evening
Honestly, Miki's backswing generates a ton of power in her shot. That's how I was when I used to bowl. I didn't have such an exaggerated approach, but at one point, I had a super-high backswing, because my game was all about power and revs.
Yeah but it's probably a 12# ball or lighter
Matt O Grady is a great guy...got the pleasure of bowling doubles at the bowlers journal this year
Oh boy he is in jail
@@cheesecrackers945 ??? What do u mean
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@@FINBONE2 the part after he wins, he said: "Hardwork beats talent everytime"
Tom Smallwood has a pretty unique style
Some people disagree but I think Rudy had probably 18mph with almost 600 revs so since his ball was so strong he could never win a title
Great vid. Cool to see some old schoolers hold their own (strike is a strike). Be fun to have a "classic" match of modern bowlers and old school eq and oil patterns and vise versa.
I thought Pete Weber had a huge back swing, and then I just saw Miki on here. Holy crap!
Miki Nishimura has an interesting style but I think there were more similar to her in Japan. Yumiko Sato had a similar release but she threw with less axis tilt than Nishimura.
how is Matt O Grady unorthodox. His physical game is beautiful!
I bowled against him in college. Back in college I remember his back swing being much more behind his back and the elbow bent much more. When he made the PBA shows it looks like he smoothed it all out and looks pretty traditional in today's game.
You need to add Mike Litchstein to this
Anyone else hear the bowling aound of the japanese one? That's where the wii bowling sound came from!
The only thing unique is how skilled the old timers were with such primitive technology.
0:37 omg that shot was on the ideal line the entire time LOL
Changed the title to "UNIQUE STYLES" because I feel like saying Unorthodox isn't right. (BTW - Sorry if people were upset for me adding Amleto and Matt as some people say they're not unorthodox. But the next video will be great. Lowest Scores Part 3 is coming soon.)
Can't wait to see my picks.
Matt woks. Especially when you see it in slow motion
...or Handley, or Ziesig, or Hoskins...
...but somehow Ron Williams gets overlooked? What about Wayne Webb, for that matter?
...or, since apparently we aren't limiting ourselves to the PBA, how about Mike Neumann?
Frankly, as remarkable as his power game appears to the only-so-well-trained eye, I'm not sure Rudy even belongs on this list. As "unique styles" go, he's really nothing more than Pete Weber (circa 1980) with a remarkably visible measure of upper body strength..
The guy in the thumbnail reminds me of the actor from burn notice
This reminds me of the time I went bowling. I freaked out because the waiter brought me a rum and coke with too much ice. I bowled 10 gutter balls in a row. The bowling ally management insisted I leave the premises.
Handley is only unique in how he holds the ball in his stance and push away. Other than that he’s textbook power
Ken McNeely had a unique style
Honestly there were quite a few unorthodox styles at the 2018 usbc masters, all except for Andrew Anderson
Steve something was smooth and unorthodox and Rhino Page is not unorthodox
@@braeyonbeard267 forgot about Rhino, good call
@@drsausage5864 thanks
i thought D J Archer would of made this video his shot is unique
Yes yes yes! Thanks so much JH223! You should check out this guy called Mr. Yoh.
Already seen him
Alright thanks! Have a good day!
The thing is a lot of people question why I have such a high backswing I’m 5’0 btw and my backswing is arm length above my head so people say it shouldn’t be so high but it’s natural. I am not really a power player but that’s how I generate my few revs
0:50 Spelled Brian Ziesig
ironically, not the worst we've seen it spelt
@@bluezigmund 😂
I agree with all of these. Great list! Hey I saw a guy on one of the European compilations and his ball went straight up above his head, as high at possible, and then he just stopped it there for like a full second. I wish I knew his name.
Do you mean Erich Pisarski?
I like how for pros backswing under the shoulder is considered unique.
Check out Mike lichstein
These people are probably in the other part I I forgot. But thomas larsin and Martin larsin has unique styles
wheres Jacob butteref?
ej's style is like monacelli's tbh
When hear the ball down the lanes when Amaleto was bowling
I bowled against O'Grady in high school when he was at st Joseph and I was at Colonia
My mother was very proud when I told her he won a pba title as she was a JR bowler director at Edison lanes when he bowled a few tournaments there
O G has a great game. I have seen it up close many times. Smooth strong release.
the guy at 2:40, "self taught" yeah we can tell lol
Hmmm when will the 229 games come?
299*
nah like he once mistaken typing 229, and i asked him, and he said maybe for april fools with the 229 lol
@@cblyrically4310 ok
What kind of shot is that on 4:30? 🤦♂️
Why does Anthony slavery Spar wear so much yellow tape on his fingers it makes such a weird sound going into the ball
No early Wayne Webb or Pete Weber?
I don't see O'Grady or Monacelli as unorthodox. If they are, you could put Richie/Dick Allen as unorthodox, because of his hand on the ball. That's how I see it, but I can tell where/why you'd say O'Grady and Monacelli
Back in the day Monacelli was highly criticized for his style.
@@fongbrandon well, his style seems to define how most crankers throw today, albeit with higher backswings and less of a bent elbow at followthrough (eventually he got rid of that and throws more of a tweener/stroker nowadays).
Today they would not be considered unorthodox at all but in the 80s Monacelli was told he'd never last on tour because his shoulder would fall apart. Kasimakis was all about rev rate before that was even a term. Ryan Shafer got criticized because it looked like he was coming out of his shoes at the foul line.
Was the last guy full roller? Ball sounded funny going down the lane.
they slid Hoskins in this one. I watched this guy at the Orleans, very effective controlled swing, not much backswing though. I gotta say his straight ball for spares is downright perfect though
I think that guy named Rudy(I’m pretty sure) his style kinda reminds of Kris Keltzow
Rudy revs stopped before he released the ball keltzow doesn’t do that and Keltzow can’t put up 550 plus revs
@@benhelps813 I kinda figured since it looked like he was throwing the big hook back then which isn’t easy to do. I’m just saying the Form in General looks like Kris
@@20xx_20xx You can have your opinion but I don’t see the similarity except for size
@@benhelps813 It’s okay bros. At least we came to a mutual agreement on our opinions.🤝
Have you done Wayne Webb?
No unquie style
What about wayne webb?
I met him a few times when I was working in pro shops in my 20s. That dude had the biggest forearms I'd ever seen on a little guy.
I bowl at Wayne Webb’s house in Columbus ohio
No unorthodox style video is complete without Rudy Revs!
Ouh Garber has a Japanese apprentice
Zach wiedman is pretty unique
Scott Devers might have the lowest rev rate of any bowler I’ve ever seen on TV. Interesting.
Earl Anthony’s was lower for sure
@@michaelpatterson4718 Yeah earl anthony had maybe a 200 rev rate at that lmao
I only go bowling once every few years with my family so i can honestly say these styles look a lot more orthodox than anything I'm used to. Well apart from the Japanese lady
Never knew Nacho Libre was a bowler! 😮
Miki is the female version of Rudy Revs.
Where’s Wayne Webb.
Sean Lavery Sparh is also unorthodox is not then Tom smallwood and Jason Deran and Steve Warren and Roger Bowker and Ryan Shafer and Andrew Frawley
Just wait till you see me on tv. I am I righty and I end on my right foot.
Jason Deran have a unique style
Another pro bowler to add is Richard Bramwell. I think that's his name.
I feel like decreasing your back swing decreases speed so I see why Ryan Z did that on the plastic ball championship.
Very true. But I've seen him bowl live (we're both part of the UBA) and that style doesn't change ... and is very effective. Lol
Ковер задаёт стиль этой комнате.... :)
I bowl just like lavery spahr
1:56 jojo reference
What?? No one bowling like Fred Flintstone?
I think alex should be steve hoskin’s brother or friend
Ametlo is not Unorthodox how he bowl the ball with hook on his back swing
I usually get some requests to do Amleto so I did. I think his style back then was more unorthodox back then than now.
Amleto's style really defines most of today's crankers, but 1) at the time it was uncommon and b) most crankers today have higher backswings than him
@@omegavladosovich6757 Oh,
Title is Unique styles... I guess i have never bowled normally. I bowl like half of these guys
No you don’t
@@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou What is my avg? Where do i tour? Where is my primary lane? You don't know anything child. Go suck on your bottle.
My dad is friends with Brian Ziesig
Ziesig looks like the team CAPTAIN for his special Olympics team
Rudy Kasimakis if he’s in here his style is basically normal with a high backswing like Mike Fagan, and I’ve never seen a girl with a backswing like that, reminds me of myself when I was 13, and I don’t think Fagan has been in any of these Video’s he also use a Sarge Easter Grip which is you middle finger is a finger tipped hole and the ring finger is a conventional drill, I had to switch to that due to a torn ligament in my ring finger, now I’m gonna have to come up with some kinda unconventional style my slide foot is too messed up to ever really use again it’s dead weight I wish they would just cut it off for me but they won’t
I think miki got the best swing than yumiko sato or even hijemi urara
She quit professional bowling abruptly in 2016. No reason was given but an anonymous bowling alley official later revealed she stole 60000 yen from her local bowling center.
@@omegavladosovich6757 Who?
@@waylandquiaoit3871 Miki
@@omegavladosovich6757 Oh her ok that’s good but thanks
@@omegavladosovich6757 I always wondered why she just disappeared. Wasn't on P-League anymore and couldn't find anything on her recently.
All of these seem normal to me. Bowlers are weird.
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Wow that is cringe dude
Miki is fine 🥵
Some of those styles must put an awful strain on the body.
Hello
what about Ray Bluth