Good Budget HitBox Alternatives?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Short video on my suggestion for the best budget hitbox leverless controller.
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F-1 feels significantly better than the B-1 to me, the B-1 buttons while tactile are 3D printed and kept popping off during fast double taps. So if you’re real aggressive on your inputs F-1 will hold up better.
All preference at the end of the day.
“These use Sanwas, or so they say, but I’ll get into that later”. Doesn’t get into it later
Haha i was going to compare it to my razer atrox which uses sanwa buttons but i opted not to since i decided to send the f1 back anyways.
Very happy to see the f1 get recognition its a great box afyer yoi get your own buttons
Spoiler warning it’s your keyboard
My keyboard was $180 so these cheaper still but i know what you meant lmao.
@@FrankieJPlays but you already own your keyboard, everyone owns a keyboard. If you want to use a pc only hitbox you might as well just use your keyboard if you’re on a budget
@@mathclass2548 doesn’t feel the same but i get what you are saying.
I have a mechanical keyboard that I love but still bought one of these just to have a standard layout in menus and to play games that dont support keyboard (like Dead or Alive 5 and 6)
@@emmanuelinfantegonzalez4316 love dead or alive
Appreciate this big time my guy
I will take the white one. A quick calculation tells me that EACH pressing on the Cherry, will require 17% more energy than a pressing on the Sanwa, after hours of play this can feel significant.
My inputs:
Sanwa OBSF-24: total travel = 2,53 mm and actuation force 81 gr.
Cherry MX: total travel = 4 mm and actuation force 60 gr.
Energy = Force x distance
It does come down to preference and i hope it treats you well!
So uppon further inspection the main button switches can be switched out very easilly if travel distance is an issue. You can go for mx reds or speeds which would be even faster then the sanwas i believe.
@@FrankieJPlays Thanks! But I have already bought the Fightbox. It is fine, it is not that expensive. Buying a HITBOX at 250 was problematic, but not a device at ~110. I know there will be a long way of tuning and changes in the future whatever I decide to use first.
@@AmnesiaGm1 the f1 is better in the sense that in the long run you could customize it more. You can replace the board inside with the brook universal one later on while on the b1 that i prefer you cannot so regardless great choice!
cherry MX silver
Just want to ask, so you can buy any brand of mixbox as long as you have a brook wingman, you can use it on ps5?
Yes correct
@@FrankieJPlaysstreet fighter6 ps5版ソフトでもこのコントローラー使えますか？
thanks for the video
Glad you found it useful
@@FrankieJPlays have you tried the f1 by chance> also curious if you think the f8 is better
@@Mumaakil f1 is the white one in the video, f8 is the same thing but with an additional button for jump and crouch looks uncomfortable and like it would lead to miss presses. Still recommend the b1 over f1. F1 just feels cheap compared to it and the sanwa buttons don’t feel like sanwa buttons.
@@FrankieJPlays I see alot of people get the b1 over the f1 aswell. I tried an arcade stick, I loved the buttons so i thought f1 would be the obvious choice
i will look into the b1 more though now that you mentioned you prefer it, thanks again for the reply!
@@Mumaakil the buttons are smaller then standard fightstick ones on the f1 and they feel cheaper thats why i recomend the b1. slightly bigger buttons and they feel better
Hey I was wondering, since you have the PC version of the Fightbox, have you tested the Wingman FGC with PS4 and PS5? I was researching whether it worked because as far as I know, the PC versions use a Zero Delay Encoder and some people claim that the new Wingman FGC is not compatible with that PCB. I am quite set on getting a Fightbox but I think I might just be overspending on the 70 dollars more PS4 version. Any help would be appreciated.
I’m in the same boat, can’t find any info on this
It will work perfectly, tested it on GG strive and i couldn’t notice any input delay.
@@PrT0xic It will work perfectly, tested it on GG strive and i couldn’t notice any input delay.
Also forgot to mention in my reply, i only tested the wingman fgc on ps5 the ps4 has an alternative converter from brook for much cheaper. The wingman fgc is for the ps5 and ps4 but only works with fightsticks/hitboxes. Will not work with xbox controllers etc
@@FrankieJPlaysso it’s possible to get a pc version and use a brook adapter to use on Xbox and would work?
What’s the difference if I opted for a Fightbox F1 with PS5 compatibility OR Brooks UFB (is there a difference in performance or just extra compatibility?) versus something like a Razer Kitsune or god forbid I sell a kidney for a Victrix?
Id say forget fightbox and watch my more recent vids in the hitbox/leverless play list. I ended up having a bad experience with fightbox and don’t recommend them anymore. If you are on ps5 only then a brook wingman with a budget leverless is great. Book ufb is if you are going to play on every console and pc.
@@FrankieJPlays Thanks for the quick reply man. Yeah I’ve used stick in and out of tournament for like 10+ years but am looking to make the jump to leverless. Looking for something that works when I play on PC but also when I go to SF6 tournaments that are played on PS5. I thought about using an adapter but I’m a little hesitant because of input lag added. Have heard horror stories about the Razer Kitsune which would’ve been my first choice since their original Razer Panthera was my favorite stick and I still use it to this day. Victrix Pro FS is like 400 bucks and a little too rich for my blood rn so I’m in between a rock and a hard place. Smh. I’ll def take a look at your more recent vids though thank you.
@@RedShogun13 the 50$ budget leverless is the best thing to go for then watch that video and if you like it just get a brook wingman for tournaments since most are on ps5.
Hello I want to buy my first leverless but you don't speak about switches. What is the best between cherry silver / cherry red silent / cherry blue ? Thanks !
Silvers for sure. I have plenty of videos on budget leverless. This video should be part of the playlist.
@@FrankieJPlays thank you for the fast reply
Would you know what boards they use on the F1 and B1? Both are great options but my only concern is if both can be configured to the new capcom SOCD rules. Thanks!
They can, check out my latest video!
Question: does the pc version work for Nintendo as well, because it says on the site that it works, but I don't want to buy something that won't work in the end
I no longer have these products and suggest you watch my later budget hitbox reviews i know those do have switch support especially the 50$ one. To see how that function works look at the rtu review. With these idk and the have horrible qc
Can you put a template on the fightbox? Is the plexi transparent or its just white plexi?
You can put a template on both! It would look better on the b1 series in my opinion but again it comes down to button preference. Yes the plexi is transparent if you choose the custom/diy version.
You almost convinced me with the transparent one in your video, for my really first. I am just concerned about the buttons, they look quite different compared to Sanwa that I have been using since 2010...They seem to have a huge travel distance when pushing it, how many milometers is the travel? can it be customized and changed with different button variation with different travel length?
They use hot swap cherry mc black switches. According to the cerry mx site their black switches have an actuation distance of 2mm. That being said i had way less combo drops on the clear one. However, in the video i do mention that the white one is totally up for people who really preffer sanwa style buttons but to me they felt cheap and unlike the sanwas on my razer atrox or mad catz tournament 2 edition fightsticks. Idk if it’s the size of the buttons or the ones they use but the pc keyboard switches one felt better and they were slightly bigger and closer to fightstick button size!
@@FrankieJPlays Ok, I think I will order this one very soon then. Wish me a good transition...
@@AmnesiaGm1 if you are really on the fence then deff try to get it on amazon and make sure it’s shipped/sold my amazon so you can send it back if anything. Amazon tends to be leniant if you you call and tell em it’s defective etc..
@@FrankieJPlays what about the force needed to press those buttons? Is it very soft like the sanwa?
@@AmnesiaGm1 they are pretty soft but as soft as sanwa? Probably not again, they are cherry mx black switches if you have a local tech story, best buy etc you can go and see if they have cherry mx black keyboards on display and test the feel since it’s the same switches.
I want to use this on ps5 sf6 and tekken 8 you saying get the b1 and a wing commander?
Brook wingman converter
Is this the F1-PC? How's the input lag with the zero delay PCB?
Haven’t noticed any and on the b1 my inputs have been way more consistent then f1. Sorry i mixed them up in my reply
@@FrankieJPlays so you'd recommend the b1? I like the clear, can slap my own art maybe
@@KimchiKommander yes, b1 and get the diy version so that it is clear only $99 rn. Easier to upgrade software for the board, more premium feel and more compact. The pc keyboard switches and buttons also feel better the. The f series sanwa buttons feel weird imo even comparing it to my razer atrox from 2012 and my madcatz tournament edition 2 which both use sanwa buttons.
@@FrankieJPlays thanks man! I can't wait, its just easier on my thumb to use a leverless. Time to put in the practice grind in SF6 and MK1 soon!
@@KimchiKommander for sure this fightbox has made me fall in love with lighting games all over again. Just got to plat myself on the sf6 grind.
Should I buy a normal hitbox or buy a hitbox with extra L3&R3 buttons ?
All preference
@@FrankieJPlays what do you recommend between Hitbox vs Mpress hitbox vs Furin hitbox.... i noticed a lot of people like Mpress because the buttons are very close to each other ... do you have any recommendation for budget friendly Hitbox that look like Mpress ?
@@imohbalu yes, check out my leverless playlist especially the 50$ budget review and my latest rtu-a4 review.
@@FrankieJPlays THANKS FOR THE feedback noted
How do you get the brook converter? its always sold out lol. Trying to get one before late July
I provided the link, it is sold by many sellers so just see which one has it quicker. Amazon might also have it.
If it is sold out everywhere your best bet is to pay a tiny bit more for an ebay seller
The converter does support pc version for sure ?
Yes, watch my b1-pc review i show it there
@FrankieJPlays
I know you said the F1 and B1 PC version will work with the wingman FGC on PS5. But I just want to confirm that this is the F1-PC that does not use a Brook Board that will still work with the wingman. I know all the other ones support PC as well so thought I might ask you to get it clarified. Sorry for that I just don't want to buy something and have it end up not working! :)
These do not have brook boards inside. Only for pc .
@@FrankieJPlays
Thanks for the reply. So that fightbox you are showing in the video is the F1-PC and you tested it with the wingman fgc?
Do you also still recommend the B1 over the F1 even though in one of your videos you said not to buy it lol. Sorry for all the questions! I am having choosing my first leverless fight stick! If you have other recommendations not listed on your channel that doesnt cost 200+ let me know :).
@@MrCupcakes85 i would highly suggest the the new rtu hitbox rtu-a4 (bigger version of the rtu watch that review) over any of these 2 if you care about size and it beeing big. If size isn’t an issue then go with the 55$ budget leverless controller i reviewed both that and rtu use pico boards with gp2040 software that is getting better and better as developtment continues. They have manged to even make it work natively on ps4 and currently working on ps5 all through a software update!
@@FrankieJPlays
I only see a video that you made for the RTU not the RTU-A4. I am also having trouble finding the RTU-A4, from what it seems like is that you can get the RTU mini and the A4 is an extra enclosure?
@@MrCupcakes85 i did not make a video for the -a4 but it’s on sale rn for only 105 i linked it in the rtu video. The review applies to it since it’s just the rtu in a bigger enclosure if you want a bigger one.
the fightbox is compatible with the brook wingman ?
Full review is up brother and i show it functioning with ps5.
So does the pc version works with ps4 and ps5 with the brook wingman?
The brook wingman does work for ps4 according to their site i have only tested with the ps5 on ggs and it worked fine.
hit box is 80 pounds cheaper than the fight box
Fightbox is no longer good, go to is haute42 check their site
@@FrankieJPlays it is good, i dont need the extra buttons on the haute 42 plus its too small for my liking but thanks anyway
@@nostromo2871 haute42 has 6 different fightsticks from 30$ to 130$ what are you talking about brother.
@@FrankieJPlays not interested
@@nostromo2871 ok…
is there any way to flip the movements buttons for the left hand on the b series? i cant make my own since i don’t have a reliable online shop that sells parts to build my own and the overseas shipping prices would kill me.
Not that i see on the website but maybe they can do a custom one for you if you contact them on their page. Links in description.
They both the same price on the website. Would you still recommend the one with the keyboard switches.
The one with keyboard switches is the one i kept and returned the other one. However it comes down to preferences do you like the feeling of keyboards or traditional fightstick buttons. If you have never had any then go with the b1 the pc switches one.
I have one of those with silver switches. personally they feel great, I don't know why. just the way the button hit down so smoothly with a light touch. feels so satisfying.
i cant open the temples for the b1 like i can see the file but idk what to do with it help needed
They usually use google docs so you have to open it with that. Upload it to your google drive
By the way my bad can you use a magicboots with this instead its like 30 bucks cheaper
it does not have a secondary usb port so unless you mess with it internally not sure.
@FrankieJPlays I went with the b1 fightbox I got a question what would you say are the best switches if I wanted to change them out
@@2gunzup07 lubed akkon silver speed switches
@FrankieJPlays thanks alot man I'm waiting on it to come from China I'm going to buy those switches and test them out I'm a pad guy have a hori real arcade pro 3 but I never got good with a stick
Currently I'm playing on PC with PS5 controller but I wanna buy a hitbox, but if I want to play with friends on a PS5 I have to pay extra 230$... That's fucked up...
Just get the pc version for $99 and get the brook fgc converter i mention in the video it is in description and you save some money.
Can you change the artwork on these two gems?
Yes! You can do it directly from their site or order one later/buy from third party if they have the measurements.
How's the latency
Feels just as good as my razer atrox and mad catz tf2. Don’t have propper equipment to test but the board is good according to many. They also use brook boards if you opt to pay more. You can youtube reviews on the rac j800b or rac c800 boards on youtube for more precise info.
rac c800 does not support socd, sadly.
i saw some cool looking cheap "hitboxes" with pica fighting board in it, i think its the only way to get socd without buying actual brook board
rac-j800b does
Yes it does, link to update it with the bew socd is in description. Updated mine with the instructions provided in the DL
@@nofx7058 they both do instructions are in DL i provided
Can i add my custom art to the B series ?
Yes, choose the diy version in the link and it has an option to make custom art or you can do it yourself.
@@FrankieJPlays I already ordered the B1 mini the normal version can i still do the art myself?
@@xliMaGiclx idk about the mini since i got the standard only.
@@FrankieJPlays Thanks dude, ill see when i receive it and ill tell u if i can or not
@@xliMaGiclx thanks, will appreciate the info
Which one is compatible with Xbox Series? 🥲
They both can be. If you want them to work natively on xbox you would have to choose the universal board version which is quiet pricey. However, you can just buy a brook converter for xbox and get the cheaper $99 pc only version! Will add the xbox brook converter to the description refresh it in 15 mins!
Updated it again there was a newer version.