How Do Men Express Their Feelings? | Tom Golden
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Women say men don't express their emotions enough, but has anyone ever thought to tell women that they need learn to _control_ their emotions better, the way men are taught? (That is, before society started using ritalin to raise the children).
Also, men express their emotions in different ways than women. So it's easy to not see them expression "emotion" ...
Jakk Frost Every exasperated husband ever I would think.
I disagree with this. That's the difference between men and women. I am fine with men and women being able to express their feelings in different ways
Yes, you are fine with this, but society is not. People attack women for being too emotionally expressive, and attack men for being emotionally retarded. It gets tiresome. Like you, I encourage people to be or do whatever they need, to feel good.
Or that when we do women don't respect us anymore
Women are friends face to face
Men are friends shoulder to shoulder
Feminism convinced everyone that only female ways of talking, feeling and communicating our feelings are valid. Doing so in a male way was called wrong and not dealing with our feelings. So men went from talking in our own way to not being allowed all male time, not being allowed to talk, not being allowed to grieve, not being able to feel openly. Feminism is not teaching men to emote properly it is teaching men not to process emotions in a way that will lead to their mental health improving. it has also retrained psychologists not to treat patients except in a female oriented way. That has probably helped lead to the rising rate of male suicide and the lost generations we are producing.
colossal comment
This guy comes off a little eccentric in his mannerisms and way of speaking but he's right about how men express their feelings. More than that is how he says that men are different than each other in the way they handle their feelings, as well and I'm sure those differences exist among women, too. What has been happening over the years is this need to express ourselves following a "one way fits all" methodology. When my son was killed, I tried and tried to "deal with my feelings" as they say and it wasn't working. It wasn't until I found a job that allowed me to work outdoors and just be me that I could bring myself to a place where I could learn to live without being crushed by my loss.
I'd like to see what this man is saying becoming more acceptable as a way for men's or anyone's expression. It's all too regimented, right now and we need more freedom to explore ourselves in different ways outside of the psychiatrist couch.
Jack Haveman I am so sorry for your loss. Femenists, and proffesionals, need to understand that therapy is not just the "let's sit and talk" method is not for everyone. Putting oneself in a new position or situation is just as viable a treatment.
When my stepdad lost his father, helping his brothers repair the old family home to sell helped him deal with his grief. When he came home, he finished remodeling the kitchen. He is doing so much better now, but still wishes he had a little more time with his dad.
ciriadeflora
Thank you for your kindness. I understand exactly what you're saying and how it helped your stepdad. For me, being outdoors and losing myself in the work and having the moments where it was just me and no outside pressure, that helped. It's different for all of us and that should be recognised. Unless it's self destructive, people should have the faith that a person can find their own way and let them do it in their own time and what appeals to their unique personality. It's not that you don't feel the pain, anymore. It's about learning to live with it and that's different for everyone.
Sorry for your loss 😢
Jack Haveman - yeah that guy creeps me out a little bit, but he might be better relatable to many women. Unfortunately, most women who need to relate to this topic never will and those who do were most likely never a serious problem anyway. Although I've been wrong before so I hope they all keep up the good fight.
PS. It was back in 1978 when I was 12. I'll never forget it. Being wrong sucks! Never gonna let that happen again.
Mrironhorse1
It does suck to be wrong. LOL.
I think that what Cassie is doing, along with so many others, is very important. I know that I'm a man but I'm so much more than that. I'm me....an individual and I want people to see me, the individual, and not as a part of a demographic. When I watched her movie, The Red Pill, and heard her speak in subsequent videos, I felt the power of the individual in her. She wasn't the collective, anymore, and was speaking for herself. That's what I think we should all be and what I want for myself.
We are diverse. Not as groups that we can identify and describe to one another but as individuals, each one unique. The guy in the video spoke to that and Cassie has demonstrated it by making her movie. Good on her for it.
This is a topic that needs to enter the conversation and really get heard: men and women feel and express things differently. I was raised in the 90s an had all of society telling me that everything I was feeling and how I expressed (or didn't express) myself was wrong. That I needed to "get in touch with my feminine side." Fucked me up for years.
Love Eric Clapton. The loss of a child is devastating for any mom or dad.Famly courts dont seem to have too much empathy for men however.The ten male suicides to every one female after a divorce is a very telling statistic,and the Mainstream doesnt really give a hoot.
vetski666
Do you have a source for that statistic? I'd love to use it myself.
No,but I have heard it repeated more than once.Shouldn't be to hard to find.
Going to my grandfather's tool-shed is my therapy.
Working with my dad, my absolute pleasure.
Once you've uploaded all the raw files, do you think you'd ever consider doing a 'red pill 2'? Maybe covering whatever is important at the time? Either way, as always, thank you for your work, it is very much appreciated!
This is wonderful. Thank you for interviewing this chap and sharing it with the world. My uncle is part of a Men's Shed group in Wales and it's been brilliant for him.
Thank you! This chap appreciates your comment! Great to hear your uncle has found a working shed.
She gets the house and he gets the shed, but only with her permission.
You're right, the last part is critical! :(
RonnyDonny13 Yeah, but she gets the house and he gets the shed and he's grateful for this small pittance, as many men are. The whole house is her safe space. If the roles were reversed there would be outrage.
Typically HIS house becomes THEIR house becomes HER house after divorce and he inherits the street and maybe a tent.
Woah, this man is such an impressive storyteller.
That was really moving, actually struggling to hold a tear back. Thanks to you both
Glad you found it helpful Robyn.
Men bond and express their feelings by doing, when they have a common objective. Its a shame feminists dont understand or respect that.
That's so true. My father and I recently built a deck at his house ... although sometimes it's hard work, it's great fun. Almost therapeutic.
@@BenjaminEsposti The side by side thing.
This was an excellent, highly accurate segment, Cassie.
My father and I had a great connection but we hardly ever talked about our feelings. It's like we under stood each other without ever saying a word...truly Amazing.
Men don't commune the same way women do. That's why therapy and the current education systems don't really work for men. Saying that, I consider the whole house as my shed. She can share the space if she works as hard and doesn't impose decorations I don't want.
I think there exist some studies which indicate that therapy doesn't work for a large number of people, if not the majority. Therapists often believe in highly dubious concepts like "mental illness", "insanity", and the like which can at best be metaphorical, but get confused as literal.
There may be evolutionary roots to this phenomenon. Hunters would talk when returning with game, and given that they face losing appendages or even lives on a daily basis, they tend not to whine over small things. Conversely, women protected in huts with children at their knees would drum up things to say to kill boredom and establish a domestic dominance. Overly simplified, but there could be a kernel of truth.
Three of my last four counselors essentially suggested that I just quit my job if there's parts of it that stress me out and that I just stop thinking/talking about the things that scare and depress me.
I suspect it's because progressive ideas inform their approach to counseling, and it's progressive ideas that cause me anguish. My most recent counselor just listens and offers his thoughts instead of exasperation or being dismissive.
Spoonwood
Um, what? Pretty sure mental illnesses are a thing. Go mess with someone's brain and/or hormones and crazy stuff happens. As far as insanity goes, well, I think that's just hard to define.
Point Curation
I don't think that "progressivism" has anything to do with it. As far as I'm aware, counseling has always been the stereotypical "and how does that make you feel" garbage that doesn't actually do anything.
Right after my father died, I went to work the following Monday, but my particular job where I work felt like the best place I could possibly be to process the grief and shock. I supervise good employees, and when the usual conversations took place around our work outside, I could tell them a few things about my father, and they could respond. That's what I had to do, to get through the unbearable feelings those first few days.
Thank you for the work you do. You are a beacon of hope for those workkng in the harshest industries and being told they are the reason for all of the world's woes. I tip my hat to you.
Men express their feelings way better and clearer than women, when they do it. But most don´t do it with women and that is the real point, that annoys them.
Eh...I disagree. Many Men aren't taught how. Also, many Men don't express themselves to Women. Whether the Women understand or not is an entirely different story.
Nope, that is just the stereotype certain groups want you to believe, to exploit it. Men express themselfs just more likely to other men in a "safe" enviroment.
Also men aren´t obliged to open up or express themselfs to women, like women aren´t obliged to have sex with men. Why should this be a problem? Don´t force men against their free will.
That's a good point.
For myself, I expect that when I tell a male friend about a problem, he'll commiserate a bit, and make suggestions on what I can do to make it better. There are rarely judgments made.
When I've tried this with women, we either wallow in mutual self pity, or I get lectured on how it's all somebody's fault., often mine.
For myself, If a friend wants to give me advice, I'll listen. I know that problems get solved by making decisions and acting on them. Sometimes, the decision can be to do nothing and wait.
But I learned long ago, that's not generally what women are looking for. And trying to help them, is often derided as mansplaining.
If you take a look at media that men mostly create and consume for themselves (from porn to video games to heavy metal, etc.) and then the female response; it's pretty clear women don't want to engage with men on that level, and are in fact horrified at men expressing themselves.
And fair enough. Most men don't want to plumb the depths of Romantic Lit. either. They just have the decency not to demand the bodice ripping Casanova conform to _their_ idea of manliness (can he operate power tools? Does he change his own oil? Does he sell propane and propane accessories?).
There is a lack of honest communication, which as long as we are agreed that maybe it is better to keep some secrets and some things are better left unsaid, is fine.
But this notion that the creators of civilization haven't left their mark in nearly every inch of it aren't expressing themselves is patently absurd. It's just that men aren't expressing the points some women want to hear.
Men don't because so many women make it clear how coldly indifferent they are to how men and boys feel, or how little they care about how well (or how poorly) they're doing. If you had a sadistic bitch like Hanna Rosin as a mother, would you let her know how you feel after you were ridiculed by peers after they learned she dedicated her misandric book "The End of Men" to you, or after she noted with unmistakable glee and schadenfreude your suffering while being circumcised, in an article defending the practice? Not letting your enemies know your personal vulnerabilities is a survival tactic. Feminists and gynocentrists are enemies of men and boys. Ideally, men and especially boys should never have to suffer their very presence, which is an abomination.
I could listen to this guy forever. Amazing content and voice!
When women joined the workforce en mass a common complaint was that men couldn't be themselves. Women were too fragile to work with men. Women said they weren't fragile. They could take it. And women did indeed "take it" quite well. That wasn't ideal. Women shouldn't have to be/act like men. Since then there has been a 180 degree shift. Instead of the workplace changing so that both men and women could work together equally treated, the female way of doing anything became the "right" way to do things. That's equally unacceptable. Will we achieve something that respects the nature of both men and women? It's not looking good but it should be the goal.
Can you shed more light in the complaints of "men couldn't be themselves"? Is there any source I can consult on that?
Men were(are) known as raunchy characters. If you've ever worked with only men they are very crude. Being offensive is what many men consider funny and builds comradery. We're talking about silly stuff like spitting and every other offensive human activity. This all ties in to how men interact amongst themselves. The answer was for them to be more civilized as they always are in mixed company. But at the time it was treated as "a given" and were women robust enough to be amongst those behaviors. I'm speaking from my knowledge of it at the time. I'm 51. I was young at the time but that was the discussion of adults and what I saw in movies and TV. Does that clarify what I meant?
Thank you for sharing such a powerful and important story.
Work can really heal a man's soul. Not the every day 9-5 job that you only do to make a living.
But when you get to challenge yourself, create something and be free of any judgement while doing that. That is the freedom for people.
People are starving for learning and for meaningful conversations. But that cannot be forced.
We should adopt this idea of a space where men can just be men and create for the world.
The shed movement sounds awesome.
Great video, Cassie. Really interesting.
I was watching a video program on relationships, etc and one of the female speakers was asked what her experience was like during her hormonal cycle. She said that during one part (I forget which) her experience is one of "low level terror" and that she feels so ashamed because she feels like she should have it all together and can't talk about it. Wow. If I knew that a woman I was in a relationship with was feeling "low level terror" then I could be way more compassionate if she communicated that than if she is verbally abusing, criticising me and blaming me for all her problems. But that that is why she is acting in such an unfathomable way, because she feels really insecure and needs support.
I find it funny that men are told we need to talk about our feelings and yet I have NEVER heard a woman talk about what she goes through with her hormonal cycles. What a difference it would make if they communicated that to their man so he could understand and have empathy with her, and understand why she is so sensitive. But instead they lash out and find fault with every little thing and act in such unfathomable ways during certain parts of their cycle. Take it out on us.
It's not like I know what it's like for her, how the hell would I know?? I don't have menstrual cycles FYI and I'd don't read minds, but we're just supposed to know when she feels the world is out to ruin her life?
If women lead by example, by being vulnerable and open in expressing their feelings, then maybe guys would feel safe enough to do so as well
If only they les
His voice is so comforting
Very enlightening.
A friend of mine recently repeated the "men don't talk enough" line - which I found very sad, as he overlooked the fact that we've been friends for decades and shared literally hundreds of occasions where we talk for hours and hours about our thoughts and feelings.
I've also read quite a few books and listened to podcasts by women who have started out with this notion, only to come to learn through experience of interacting with men and boys that it is not that they don't share, but will generally take time to process thoughts before sharing them (aka thinking before you speak).
One podcaster put it well when she said "Women generally want to have 'the talk' immediately, but the man or boy might not say very much at all, giving an appearance of avoiding the issue. However if you wait a few hours or even a couple of days, they'll often come back with very well thought out responses that can then be discussed without the heat of emotion. In short, you will get the 'talk' you wanted, just not in the timeframe you're trying to force on it."
Interesting. I once gave a talk to three teenagers about setting goals. There were two boys and one girl. As expected the girl was more verbal (although not THAT verbal).
The two boys were more reticent. One in particular didn't say much at all and I wondered if anything I said went in. But when I read the questionnaire I gave them, he was effusive in his praise and how much this day had helped him.
I'm getting teared up writing this.
@@toomuchinformation I read a book (again written by a woman) who "discovered" that men deeply process information, but that takes time.
In one anecdote, she was addressing a room full of male executives (I forget about what exactly) and when she would ask questions, the room would be silent for some time until someone started talking. At first she assumed this was some sort of deferment to a dominance hierarchy, but came to realize that they were simply thinking about the question before they answered, and once someone put forth a concept, the conversation would take place quite organically.
Simply put: men do talk about things, just not on the same timeline as women.
The fact that this simple difference is so deeply misunderstood and has for decades been such a negative stereotype of masculinity is evidence of how poorly the status quo communicate.
@@XXXX-yc6wv Is it also an introvert thing? I have the same process and found meetings very difficult as I needed to process what was being said before I could speak.
And there's physiological evidence that introverts's brains quite literally process information more slowly but deeper.
This made me cry. Damn my lady emotions! 😢😢😢. On the real tho, this is a beautiful story of a community being built, coming together and helping each other out. Best wishes to this guy.
Cassie,
You should put your raw files in volumes or episodes in DVD format.
Strangely this is recognized as the best way men teach children.
It's taken me years to figure out what best to do with my emotions. It's neither to regurgitate them all over everyone near you nor to rub salt in them and move on, but to learn to accept them when they come up and let them do their thing. Being upset or angry isn't a bad thing on its own - often it's perfectly normal and healthy - you just need to learn how to function while remaining upset. Easier said than done, but it allows your emotions to do what they need to so you don't become bottled up and it gives you the freedom to choose whether to express how you feel or not depending on the context. I might not control my emotions as such, but neither they nor other people control me.
How is this fair, let him finish his thought, he only talked about the creative way, please do show the full interview atleast this part. He was making a lot of sense.
Well, in Cassie's defense the entire interview was over 2 hours I think. She did a great job of just telling one small segment but giving people a sense of the rest...the other ways are practical, thinking, and solitude. Practical ways use practical actions that are done in honor of the loss like dedicating ones work or running a memorial golf tournament, the thinking is when you use your thinking skills as a means to access your emotion. Easiest examples are simply reading a grief book or keeping a journal. Both use thinking but both can bring the tears. Then solitude for which many men have been shamed. It's a powerful mode for many men. Simply using quiet as a means to connect. Notice that all of these are quiet actions that most people never connect with healing from loss. Those men are not dealign with their feelings! lol There's a ton more....if you are interested I've written several books on this. You can find me on my youtube channel or my web site at menaregood.com
I always come up with a new song whenever I go through a crisis.
Thank you Cassie
Sorry for your loss sir 😢
I talked with Tim on his last hangout and we discussed the Man Shed project. I'm checking in to starting one in Texas.
I think we do it humor or with other men while drunk
Hello casey, im curious about your opinion on love dolls, they are becoming more common, do you think that it will take away from the men's rights talks?
Men Are Good! Tom, I do not know what Cassie's beliefs were when filming took place, but you have made a great case for how men and women function differently. Somehow, the female way now has the high ground, and is seen to be the gold standard against which men are judged, and women have the absolute rights to do the judging, as long as the final verdict is that men are bad and women are good.
Men express their emotions plenty. The problem is that we do it on our terms. When we're ready, when we think its appropriate, how we think is appropriate. Most women I've known understand this, probably because those are the women I chose to surround myself with.
When anyone says that you need to conduct yourself in a way that's more palatable to them, I hear "you need to be more like me, because I'm not the problem."
I haven't heard the circus left town yet I'll have to check that out, Tears in Heaven to me is one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard
I'm gonna have to remember to check out those Clapton songs. I've never cared for his music, but I've also never heard of those songs (at least I don't think I have).
Shit... Just... Shit.... Fack.... Dude is spot on. Holy hell
Everybody has to see that
Could listen to Tom all day. Wish this video was so much longer, and I wish this was common knowledge outside of being a man.
That’s what we do in the trades. We work and talk. Easily distracted but it’s great.
If a man wants to talk about his feelings, but nobody listens, does he really have feelings? :-(
Response to "how are you?": Can't complain, no one will listen.
It is so true men and women are different men communicate a lot different because of how we are. Women love to talk about there emotions . Man not so much barley cause they know there’s a stigma behind it but partly because he’s just not how we operate. We Show our emotions and how we feel through stories and doing something together that is how men bond and show our emotions. We also do it By Doing things and putting ourselves into our work but that’s also just A form of burying our problems sometimes.
How Do Men Express Their Feelings? We're not allowed to.
I believe this shed idea is so great because it allows men to be together in a way where direct eye contact isn't a focus. I believe I read some data stating that men don't enjoy eye contact the same way women do. Putting men together in a shed allows them to relax and talk in a way where they don't have to stare at each other.
I enjoy boxing or any type of martial art !!!
That's a Phenomenal way to deal with things. I Love the Martial Arts and Fighting just like O do with Sports.
That's a Phenomenal way to deal with things. I Love the Martial Arts and Fighting just like I Love Sports.
How Do I Express My Feelings???????
Verbally.
Literally.
Non-verbally.
Spoken Word.
Written Word.
Rage.
Anger.
Yelling.
Screaming.
Talking.
I feel that I have been ATTACKED by Feminists ALL OF MY LIFE.
I am male.
I was taught, and raised by, Feminists.
I am not female.
Feminine reasoning processes ARE NOT HEALTHY FOR ME.
Masculine reasoning processes are for me.
Females need to understand reality.
MEN ARE NOT WOMEN.
MALES ARE NOT FEMALES.
Mothers and Teachers are INCOMPETENT at raising and teaching boys.
BOYS ARE NOT GIRLS.
Girls are girls.
Boys are boys.
Girls respond to Feminine-ism quite well.
Boys DO NOT respond to being programmed with feminine reasoning processes well at all.
Women need to understand what they are doing to boys.
We boys will grow up.
We will find out who did this to us.
Good luck in the future Ladies. You will need it.
While my guitar gently weeps.
He's so passionate and clearly eric clapton's fans :)
We used to have something similar when I was young some 40 years ago.
A tavern back than was basically a man's bar with no women allowed.
Of course the feminist movement decided it was too sexist to have a bar just for men.
Now a tavern in my home town is code word for gay bar.
I could listen to his voice all day. No homo
Eric Clapton is a legend
I always liked the shed idea, but my wife tries to control every part of the house. :(
First Tim Goldich, now Tom Golden? Who comes up with these names?
The talk and comments make me wonder. I grew up without a dad and never had any "do stuff together and talk while we do it" with anyone. I also rarely talk about my feelings. The only person I do that with is myself (in my head) and even then I'm sometimes afraid to talk/think about it.
I wonder if other men that grew up without a father figure have the same. That it is even harder to talk about feelings, because they didn't even learn to do that with other men. I don't know, the possible link between the two just occured to me.
H Kr my father was distant and I never developed a relationship with him, even now in my forties it's awkward we never did stuff together and he was a bit of an asshole so I never learned from him. I learned to talk to myself instead my mother hated me doing this she'd overhear me and think I was losing my mind when in fact it keeps me sane, I process by vocalisation I also work in a trade and guys get into some very personal issues very quickly when your fixing shit together. I've had guys I've only known a few hours open up about divorce , bereavement and mental health problems, no guilt no shame it's just guys being guys most of those guys would never open up like that to a woman not a safe place you just get judged. Trust the guys with that shit
He's only half correct. Men do tell stories, and they do find things to physically make when they're working through tough emotions. The other half is that men simply don't express useless pain. It's like that opening scene in the American version of House of Cards where Kevin Spacey's character is dealing with a neighbors dog who got hit by a car. At first you think he's going to do anything to try and help, but for a brief minute or two when his neighbors leave to get help he realizes that dog is a goner and he suffocates it to finish it off. While he does this he narrates to the audience, telling them that there are two kinds of pain, useful pain that tells you something's wrong or you're getting stronger, and useless pain that will happen anyway and there's nothing you can do about it. He then looks at the camera and says quite clearly that he can't abide useless pain.
Why? Because it's useless! This is how men are. Why should I start bawling about something that happened? What good will that level of expression bring? Why should I add discomfort to others because I am suffering, what possible good does that do? No one is going to reward a man for expressing every little discomfort that he has, so there's no point in expressing it, and it would in fact simply push people away. The situation is actually similar for women, except that they get away with this level of expression *ONLY* because men are biologically coded to react to women's needs if there's something they can do. This level of emotional expression that women get is a result of the nature of men, but not a FEATURE of the nature of men, and in fact it isn't even a feature of life in general. This freedom would go away the instant men attempted to engage in the same level of emotional expression, because in a sexually di-morphic species you can't have both sides of the species feeling sorry for themselves, someone has to keep shit running smoothly.
_"The situation is actually similar for women, except that they get away with this level of expression ONLY because men are biologically coded to react to women's needs if there's something they can do. "_
... So what you're saying is ... men do all the emotional labor and women do none?
XDDD (in reference to feminists yapping about how women always have to be helpful. Like, bitch, you don't have to be helpful, but don't _expect_ help if you are unhelpful!)
*... So what you're saying is ... men do all the emotional labor and women do none?*
No, just that women by biology are forced to accept protection from men. Because of this, they have a freedom to express where they are vulnerable that men do not.
Men are not forced by biology to accept protection from women, and in fact they generally are not given protection by anyone. Because of this, pragmatism demands they become as self-reliant and constructive in purpose as possible.
Shyam has a good take on this
Simple: Men express their feelings by doing something practical about them . . .
Three dislikes???
What the hell...
We could use men's sheds in this country
Fuck. This. A man's home is no longer his castle, huh? He's now relegated to a fucking shed? It's not that men don't know how to express their feelings; rage, bitterness, and resentment ARE feelings, and we express them just fine. It's that women don't like these feelings and can't understand why we have them, so they are generally disregarded.
How do men express their feelings?
We rub some dirt on them.
Because "be a man"..."live up to your manhood"..."Men don't cry"..."don't be a deadbeat"...#societalnorms
Nah, that's you lacking assertiveness and playing the victim card.
beautiful.
Elvick Clapton is the exception and not the rule. A celebrity. With a platform.
Albert Balbastre-Morte I am anything but a victim. Perhaps you are projecting? You don't know me.
+albert balbaste says the soy boy looking idiot. Your just projecting your weakness and insecurities.
As far as I know, feminists want men to express themselves. But when we do, feminists are also infuriate that we do not express what they wanna hear...
Slight devil's advocate to Golden here; fact is, the rules are different for us, as men, when it comes to expressing our pain and hurt. For all the skeptics reading, check out this wildly applauded assessment of No Tears In Heaven:
ua-cam.com/video/GiQfb-FZMUI/v-deo.html
Versus the venerable Jim DeRogatis's words on"Layla".... ua-cam.com/video/Izfg7YU9VgE/v-deo.html :
"...Clapton’s singing was never stronger or more soulful. Listen to the way he wails, "Layla! You’ve got me on my knees."
"The brilliance of his best album is glimpsed all too infrequently in his solo work through the last two decades. Contrast the muted, sterile tone of "Tears In Heaven," a song dedicated to his dead son, to the red-hot emotion of "Layla."
It's not fair or sane, but we have to learn how to not come across weepy even when bluntly sharing our agony, unless you want to be seen as a punk or a bitch afterwards.
grow up calling it the dog house
He's right but he's so weird in how he says it lmao.
The more emotional you become, the further you are falling into the blue pill matrix. I never get emotional about anything, but nothing is more important than to never, ever, get emotional over a woman.
Once you embrace this, life and success is a walk in the park, so I dont need to talk about my "feelings", because there's nothing to discuss.
I would disagree. It's how you deal with Emotions when they come. Don't get overly emotional. Some Men are just naturally more passionate types too.
UnexpectedWonder While everyone else is worrying about things, im already moving forward. I havent worried or got upset about anything in years.
@ Daniel Gray: perhaps mothers should just not show any emotion like love and care to their male offsprings. I'm sure you men would all be better off for it, right? Wrong. It's their love and care for you that makes for a good man. Take that away and you men are no better than robots.
Elena Duran Love is a state of unattachment to everything and everyone.
Elena Duran . Ahhh here it is gentlemen, the women will now explain to us what makes a good man. Next you will tell us the steps we need to take to become these men. Tell me where did you find all this knowledge?? In between crying bathroom breaks with you bff's and sucking down buckets of ice cream every other week when you break up with a new guy? You see lady, men are the only ones in actual control of their emotions and it's you ladies that have the wrong method. Crying and breaking down every time you get a booboo is a very ineffective way to get shit done and you would probably know this if you weren't so hell bent on making sure all men were silenced because feelings. So kindly shut up because your understanding of emotions is rudimentary and still less evolved then a mans but thanks for trying.
Have people lost the ability to function?
Mgtow is just like feminism. Which is why Cassie is still leftist and didn't really switch
How?
Men take control of their emotions. Not open them up like a floodgate. Work needs to get done. The family can break down. Once the smoke clears. Then the man can fall to his knees and release his pain in peace. Women act like THEY need to see it and validate it in order for it to be real.
Rework that woman brain to become more self realized 🤔💯
can tom golden stop whispering for dramatic effect? so annoying
This guy has his "shed therapy" program. Sure he will cash in nicely on shed therapy for timid cucks.
>>Have a laugh with your mates/take risks and live in the moment/have sex as often as you can/shoot stuff, or fish.REMEMBER the house is your castle and just avoid getting married. #leaveTheToiletSeatUp