Why I DO NOT Review Hilti and Festool Tools!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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If you think Hilti lacks speed and power, you clearly have never tried any of their Nuron tools that started coming out 2 years ago. As for ease of availability, for purchase/repair, all you need to do is set up an account on the website, and have tools delivered to your door on 2-3 days. As for any repairs, you also deal direct with them and can request those online or over the phone as well, all you need is a serial#, and you will have the tool back in factory certified condition in just a few days. They even cover shipping to and from your door on repairs. Repair turnaround time is why many people buy Hilti.
very true performance awesome, service fantastic, expensive but quality
I'm changing from the wall mostly and a few Milwaukee to all Hilti. They are far better quality and will last decades longer than the other ones. They might not be as fast but they're going to finish the race every time and not be defective where it leaves you looking for a brand new tool or at the repair shop. There warranties are second to none. The problem with the DeWalt brand is the batteries are junk. Milwaukee has far better batteries with I believe a 5-year warranty do questions asked replacement batteries.. as I've had to replace several of my Milwaukee batteries two three years into it. I started buying the hilt he's about three years ago all of them being used ones and I have yet to replace any of the batteries have gotten used.. they hold up for an extremely long amount of time. Especially for something that's been used before.
Hilti is very fast. I've used them and they are powerful!
I have Hilti as a home DIY’er because I got them cheap off FB marketplace. I will say they are really impressive. Love the new impact driver and the hammer drill. If you need crazy torque, get the SF 10w-22 drill as it will dominate in terms of torque and power output against the other top brands; however, I think their SF 6H-22 is in line with the other brands. Ideally, you only need that kind of power for higher end applications and if you need that, Hilti will get the job done. It’s crazy rather expensive but has come down in price in line with Makita in some cases.
Early on I had Dewalt, Makita, some rigid, then moved to Milwaukee for the power/speed.
Eventually a co worker got some
Hilti, and was really impressed by the build quality, fit and finish of the tools. Switched over 5 years ago and definitely hooked on them. Still run a lot of Milwaukee tools for plumbing and love their lights. Think Hilti takes a lot of heat for their underpowered impacts. Personally depends on the trade you’re in. Being in hvac, sinking primarily zip screws you will never notice much of a difference between Hilti/ or Milwaukee which I have both. The difference I do notice, is not having to have my tools in for repair, not the same for Milwaukee particularly their hammer drills, m12 cutters, and reciprocating saws, along with batteries.
Now if you’re sinking large screws and lags, I wouldn’t use either brand. I can assume you haven’t used any of their SDS’s, because they don’t lack power nor speed. Love the videos 👍
I think part of it is the $$$ to buy them. They definitely aren't in the basement with Ryobi, Skill Craftsman etc.
Yup, and they don't resell well so that makes them much harder to review.
Bummer about the Hilti. They are such a durable brand. Seriously it’s so hard to kill those tools. I have a Hilti rotary hammer that’s almost 20 years old. Still use it as my go to when drilling brick
The Hilti rotary Hammer is at a different level and it keeps ticking and ticking and ticking.
The irony is that Hilti and Festool couldn't care less about pleasing the competitive UA-cam market.
Hammering through a cut that turns your body into jello might be cool if you're trying to win a race in a UA-cam video. But in real life if you're doing it for 6 hours, you'll never compromise if given the opportunity.
Hilti, Fein, Festool, and Bosch professional tools absolutely SMOKE the competition if you actually use them for work and depend on them.
Ergonomics, the little details, it adds up.
Re: Festool. I think their set of accessories is better than most others. They have vacuum dust extractor attachments for everything, for example. They even have a *reciprocating saw* that you can attach a vacuum to.
I don’t do any woodworking and I don’t have any Festool stuff except for some mini Systainers. But I do like dust extraction. My M12 detail sander has no way to suck up dust. My Kobalt oscillating tool also has no dust extraction. And no depth gauge or fence. Similar tools from Festool do have that.
I’ve seen the internal teardowns you’re talking about. I think the quality of the adjustments and the set of accessories is superior. But that’s my amateur opinion.
ICI construction.... Hilti is everywhere as company tools. Full support in the Toronto, Ontario though. (Most guys' personal tools are Milwaukee, DeWalt, etc.)
Love makita I'm heavy invested in the 40v platform but Festool makes the best tracksaw and routers and of course things like the domino joiner they make really good stuff and it's very reliable.
Hilti was THE brand to go for if you baught a hammer drill in Europe maybe 20 years ago. I was a huge fanboy. But the other competitors like Bosch and Makita caught up pretty well. The premium price for a Hilti now is not justifiable any more, especially for home and hobby users. The rental service is quite nice for companies though.
Okay, okay, okay, this is a hot garbage take and Ill give you an example.
2 years ago I was on an Amazon warehouse project, the concrete contractor messed up big time so they had to go back and drill nearly 20k holes, that's twenty thousand by the way, 1- 1/4 in, 36" deep. They called White Cap and got 6 Bosch 1-3/4 combi hammers, each and every one burned out within 3 days of usage on less than 250 holes each. I was pissed because I can't stand cheap ass contractors who use crap tools for their guys, I consider it abuse on the part of their decision makers. I called their PM and told him I need this done ASAP to turn over to papa Bezos or it's my ass. He said, we will call White Cap and just get new tools. I stopped dude right there, said, call Hilti now and order some combis from them, PM bitched about costs and Im like dude, it's costing you more for being cheap in the first place. Well they ordered 5 Hilti's, smaller than the Boschs but they lasted the rest of the project, never broke down and drilled holes over 2x as fast. A smaller Hilti is twice the tool the largest Bosch is and it's not even remotely close.
Hi Indy great video!, in regards reviewing powertools in general do you buy all your own or have powertool company’s approached you to review there tools and sent you some?, one time I managed to get a drill of Bosch to review and keep it ( I had to sell it, it was to much money to keep!) but apart from that since I’m a tiny channel I have to buy any tools I review which can get expensive!!, I keep the ones i was going to get anyway and sell the others at a loss!!, I’d love to review all the latest makita releases but can’t afford it, iv tryd reaching out to some of the tool company’s and either get no response or a no!, i generally ask to borrow a said tool and then post it back but that didn’t work either!!,anyway I’m still stoked iv had a couple of world firsts or nearly worlds firsts ie in the west in regards makita tool reviews, keep up the good work 🤟🤟
Hey Jon, I love your Makita reviews! I buy most of my tools (I need a ton for my work) but I also get a bunch from companies direct. Thanks and you too!
Wow! I thought you would rated Hilti. I respect your point of view and reasons why. I like Hilti as it is reminds a lot about my favourite brand of power tools, Bosch, as they both are well built and durable, long lasting tools. Bosch's new cordless tools have a lot of variety and plenty power. Very happy with my choice with Bosch for over 23 years as professional in HVAC. Then, if you not interested in Hilti like that, do you feel the same about Bosch?
After watching a few other reviewers cover the new Hilti Nuron stuff I’ll just pass on it, it’s clear the focus was heavily on connectivity more than speed and power, which is fine, but not something I need in my tools.
As for Bosch, they have pretty poor support here in the USA (like Metabo HPT) but from watching other reviewers they are often back of the pack when it comes to speed and power. They also have one of the worst warranties in the biz (1 year), so they don’t inspire confidence. It’s pretty rare to see any Bosch tools on jobs and even then it’s only the SDSs.
Hilti is powerful and I mean powerful.
hilti is the best
I’ve owned or used most of the tools you showcase. I also own Festool and a Hilti. Not sure of the point of making this video, but since you did: Just say you don’t have those brands on your channel because they don’t meet a certain price point, are too specialized , and don’t have as large as a user base. I noticed you don’t review Jepsom, Rupes, BEA, Lamello or Virutex either. Why address it? I would advise against formulating an opinion based on what AVE has to say. He might be an engineer, but that doesn’t prevent him from being a moron. If anything, he’s disingenuous. He knows how economy of scale works. More so, he’s never worked in a tool repair department nor as a finish carpenter. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He certainly knows nothing abut using tools with guide rails if he thinks a ball bearing is a better choice than a bushing on a plunge saw. In that same video he goes off on the power cord. Has he worked in a professional environment with electric sanders and dust extraction? Modular power cords are the standard. Or should they all bend over hundreds of times a day to switch out the seven different sanders on the work trolly? This is the same guy that claims Japanese market Makita is better than US market Makita based on him burning up a $50 budget grade impact driver and then importing the xdt19 before it was sold here. Well, that budget impact is sold in Japan too. In fact, Makita has A LOT of horrible diy crap they don’t sell outside of Japan. You don’t have to take my word for it. Import the Japanese 165mm XGT and compare it to the worldwide 6-1/2” XGT. 😂. The guy is a joke. I digress, Hilti not giving a shit about busting lug nuts on vehicles doesn’t inform you on the “power” of their Nuron line. I dumped my clusterfunk of XGT/LXT for Nuron. I don’t regret it for a second. The bandsaws are crap (Chervon aka Kobalt/Bosch/Menards/Canadian Tire). The vc140 dust extractor is a lemon. The previous 6-1/2” saws were unimpressive. That’s all the bad I can say. The impact driver isn’t overpowered ala Milwaukee and Dewalt, but it’s not built like complete junk either. You’re definitely on the right track with Makita and Hitachi when it comes to impact drivers. I commend Hikoki/Metabo HPT/Hitachi for designing their tools cheaper instead of designing their tools and then making them cheap. If you pop open the HPT and the Makita and stick them side by side, you’ll see what I mean. Then pop open a Milwaukee and see all of the kinked wires that are poorly soldered and their cheap motor and the back cover of the hammer assembly gear box just floating around since it’s just friction fit and falls apart once it gets warm. Oh my, the sights I’ve seen.
Festool is overpriced if you're comparing a single tool to another brand. However as a system with all the thought out accessories it is simply untouchable not to mention it has unique tools like the domino that are Festool only. You're also comparing apples to oranges as well, it's a system for woodworking desiring functionality, ease of use and accuracy. The other brands like Milwaukee, DeWalt, Hilti are all targeted at general commercial trade, construction etc
It’s not not pronounced fen , it’s fine