The honesty with which the two gentlemen answered your question was very refreshing to see from a company it wasn,t just for the camera Well done to you and Eddie for bringing this content to a wider audience much appreciated
Strange, I thought the opposite was true. They completly dodged the second question & the third was just a vauge stock answer. The questions weren't great tbh. The third was angeling for something, lol. Robin has a product/service in mind me thinks. Can't blame him for that tho.
Your videos are so well presented. It is amazing the factual information as most of us out here don't even consider Hilti due to price then you introduce us to lease concepts. Thanks Robin and Ed for your sterling work.
I’ve been in Civil Engineering all my life, and if you want a proper tool for a job, it’s always Hilti!! Like Vacuum for a Cleaner, it was always, the Hilti Drill !!
Each to their own but where history is concerned it's a really good idea to check all the facts and circumstances of the time before making statements about the background of a company. Back to your video, the tools look great, the company ethos is great and as ever Robin you're 👍
I work in the film industry and we've been using exo-skeleton rigs for years. Check out an Easi Rig.They're made in Sweden, but there are cheaper Chinese versions. Camera operators on dramas and commercials have to carry heavy camera packages to shoot hand held if they're not on a tripod or camera dolly, and the Easi Rig does that. I don't know what the Hilti set up costs, but its exactly the same thing.
Thank you Derren, I would like to echo your comment and also thank Ed for his amazing work on this project, 1 mobile phone and a small action camera!! He sees the shot and gets all the important stuff, he is not just a great up coming carpenter but a great director too!!
Clearly the fleet management/van lease analogy makes a lot of sense for the bigger firms. I think a lot of one man band traders still buy their van outright and run it until it dies, same with tools. I think there is a massive hurdle in the trades in that there is a very closed mindset to new ideas, the "well that's how we've always done it" brigade is a reason a lot of the workmanship quality seems to be at an all time low.
Ive being using hilti products for over 25 years the cost has always been expensive compared to your mid range tools like dewalt, makita. Bosch. What you do get in return is a no argument back up service and in the worst case cant be repaired a replacement tool for free . I recently had a drill that needed fixing got repaired but then it managed to get lost in re delivery back to the store. As it had being missing for a month i did avengly say i wasn't happy about it and could i get it replaced for the new version as i was on the old version but had started to get some of new platform nuron tools. From the point of asking it was changed the next day. The drill was a year old and im not on fleet management as i prefer to pay out right with out the worry of having a tool bill every month.
They already have had those crane things for cameramen for absolute years, called the Easyrig. Actually rrally helped with carrying heavy tv cameras all day and allowed you to 'shoot from the hip' more easily. Can see how it would be useful in heavy construction despite all the hate.
Interesting video Robin. I did not know you could Fleet manage tools. Hope some of those developments make it to market plscr once patents run out. Tools look amazing
Whatever Hilti tools I have ever used. They have been good tools. And as you say the distribution in house. Back in the UK in the late eighties I started leasing my work vehicle. On a three year lease. And yes you can lease Hilti tools. This probably works in a lot of places. But by only doing self distribution they are drastically reducing the access to their tools. In Qld Australia where I now live. I can drive an hour to my closest tool shop. In fact an hour will get me to three of the biggest tool shops we have. The nearest Hilti outlet about a two hour drive. And it isn't very big. I guarantee they would not have loan replacements. I would also bet it would likely be weeks to get the tool back. Not days. And there is no service to get the tool back to me. So would be a four hour round trip to go and collect. The tool monitor system probably would also be useless. As a lot of areas I work have no phone coverage. So in short you may have good tools. But the premium service you are paying for is not available. If I lived in Brisbane a bit more so. But to get the full benefit you would probably have to live in Melbourne or Sydney. So by limiting outlets this has reduced the full potential sales area to one corner of the country. Not sure about Perth.
Yeah bro but you're forgetting one thing living in australia, the only way u can ruin these tools is by droping them in water. With the way you guys build there you can actually use hilti 24/7 and they won't fail. Hilti is insane in europe and we have reinforced concrete bricks and hard construction not cardboard and wood like you guys so.. yeah pay premium its no problem. As an example their te17 from 1970 still works, I haven't broke a hilti in 20 years..i just update them or replace them if get stolen. If u use grease for drills and a compresor at the end of the day to blow dust. You gonna die before your tools do.
When I first started in the building game Hilti was a tool you could only really hire, they made all the 'big' tools their quality cannot be called into question but...as a single/self employed 'contractor' their pricing has always been out of reach to most, I still feel they are for the larger firms especially on 'lease' which is a great idea. From where I sit the rise of Festool in the top end quality tools has made them go into the 'lower' end of 'hand' power tools (Am I right in thinking Hilti were 1st with SDS bits?) (Robin covertly try to sell his roofing square app to Hilti, if only you square has a motor on it and was battery operated :)) Props to Hilti to offer up not only the Owner but the board to ask questions to! How before Festool start offering the 'leasing' deal? or do you think their sales are where they want them to be. very informative video, at the age of 62 I just watch which wonder of what the future hold with the technology involved.
I'm not 100% sure how it works fully works. With the new batteries they have an nfc chip that you can scan on your phone and gives a location. I also think the charger gives a location of any batteries put on charge, but not sure if it needs an add on
@wrightwoodwork Interesting, would be great if they put the chip in the device. But lads would know where they are and remove them. Theft on the building site is a PITA, much of the theft is internal as well.
carried yourself well in the meeting robin. And i been looking at rear handle milwaukee saws recently after watching this checked out hilti.. 190mm battery saw (not rear handle) with 2 batteries and charger is £1200+VAT.. £1500 is a lot. That's basically 3x the cost for a m18 version. hmmm
The founder was an active volunteer in Waffen-SS and very active in Nazi movement in Liechtenstein. During WW2 Hilti built and supplied weaponry for the German Nazis.
lol no, the tools are too good to be american tools. American can't make tools like this because they don't need it, they build with cardboard and wood in 2024, who needs hilti for that.
If anyone uk based is looking for a good deal on hilti tools they are doing black Friday deals from 20th to 30th plus selling of many display items from the nuron range. Like the te6 which retails for around 620 for around 320 bare unit plus battery pack for 220 with 2 batteries plus a charger which is usually around 100 per item. If anyone is interested it would be best to get in touch with there local store
As usual highly professional presentation Robin, I am not a fan of their tools. Makes my back hurt just looking at them. Further, those high torque drills are extremely dangerous for your wrist. I'll keep my Festool & interior grade work any day of the week! Month or Year. -JD
HI Jon, thanks for your message, the drills have overcome the injury risks and they have an auto kickback feature that stops the drill if it suddenly jams and the motor cuts
First thought that came to mind, remember seeing Dean Doherty's teardown of the GX90WF Framing nailer for £1294.80, reality is it's a rebranded budget TJEP nailer worth around £504.95, different housing, all the same internals, i.e the bits that make the tool last. Funny seeing comments of that nailer saying It's the best nailer going, so much better than xyz equivelant. It's amazing what a bit of branding and inflated price can do to the perception of a product.
Had a great few days with the lads, they are brilliant young men and I was super happy to feature them, we spent all our time in the same group, these boys are the real deal!!
Bosch invented sds. Hilti, Mafell etc have always been marketed to businesses rather than consumers, hence the price of the majority of their tools is out of reach for your average Joe. Festool markets to consumers, so their pricing is lower, and their tools although decent are more gimmicky.
@@kermito3659Certainly does. Also, it shows you the dire state of our economy and wages, when some workers can’t even afford to buy quality tools to do their job, and have to lease them. This world is f**ked!
Sadly, Hilti in the UK have lost the plot. Tools are fine, but spares department is in Germany and even consumables like springs, o-rings, gaskets, etc. take a minimum of 10 days, with no sense of urgency! Appalling! I have lost almost 2 months this year with tools not working for trivial spare parts...
The tools can be traced I believe, via the Global cellular network as and when they are used so I recall Hilti mentioning that their products can be potentially found
That’s the whole selling point of Hilti Fleet Management in the UK. You provide Hilti the police report and Hilti sends you replacement tools the next day. Their theft protection is nowhere as awesome as that in the US. Here you pay 20% of the remainder of your contract on each stolen tool. So, you get an 80% discount, but still have no tools.
@@ukconstruction Sorry its a Honda Easy Lift Harness, Its mainly used for the hedge clippers, I used one and it certainly helped on the arms if you are cutting hedges all day.
Data from a powertool uploading to a company is crazy wr should NOT be okay with that. Down right creepy, and for sure exploitable. should be asked if your okay with it before you ever even spend money on the tool. Its just not needed technology. Diagnostics can happen without sending info srraight to company. Pointless shit. Only good rhing would be gps if tools stilen. Then put a gps module and be done with it. It openly being able to talk to a server without wifi it just has thebprotocols built in?!?! Like no. Not cool. Can just see it now how many peoples home networks will be infected because theyre tools were infected with malware that waits for a home connection and infects that device when connected by impersonation o the tool in question. How long till i can order a fuxkin pizza from my drill...
It's not for everyone but like it or loath it. Technology is here to stay, many every day modern devices are using similar tech to monitor and improve the functionality, and your comment about ordering a pizza... many modern fridges in people home can do exactly that!!
Sorry Robin, but this company, and especially its founder and son, should first admit and take responsibility to its crimes during WWII.. the fact that the company is so advanced and wealthy does not come from great engineering in the first place, it comes from forgetting and denying to build weapons for the nazis and forced labour.. even the whole country Liechtenstein refuses to work through the past of this company…
Robin, use Hilti all you want if you like them and the feel of them, I have never used any Hilti tool but have worked with many tradesmen that have. Nothing but high regard. Now MucMaxx, you're nothing but an antiwhite loser. Get a grip piss ant. Atonement cannot be made for a grievance never committed.
You can add to this list, Hugo Boss, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, AEG, Siemens, Coca Cola, Ford, General Motors, NASA, Volkswagon, Switzerland, Krupps, Bosch, Metabo, the list goes on and on. Best stop buying Japanese cars and electronics too come to that.
The honesty with which the two gentlemen answered your question was very refreshing to see from a company it wasn,t just for the camera Well done to you and Eddie for bringing this content to a wider audience much appreciated
Strange, I thought the opposite was true. They completly dodged the second question & the third was just a vauge stock answer. The questions weren't great tbh. The third was angeling for something, lol. Robin has a product/service in mind me thinks. Can't blame him for that tho.
Your videos are so well presented. It is amazing the factual information as most of us out here don't even consider Hilti due to price then you introduce us to lease concepts. Thanks Robin and Ed for your sterling work.
Your very blessed to go to beautiful places and meet amazing people!!!
I love hilti tools !
Thanks Robin for bringing us along, and especially in the question session of the higher ups. 👍🏻
I’ve been in Civil Engineering all my life, and if you want a proper tool for a job, it’s always Hilti!! Like Vacuum for a Cleaner, it was always, the Hilti Drill !!
Each to their own but where history is concerned it's a really good idea to check all the facts and circumstances of the time before making statements about the background of a company. Back to your video, the tools look great, the company ethos is great and as ever Robin you're 👍
I work in the film industry and we've been using exo-skeleton rigs for years. Check out an Easi Rig.They're made in Sweden, but there are cheaper Chinese versions. Camera operators on dramas and commercials have to carry heavy camera packages to shoot hand held if they're not on a tripod or camera dolly, and the Easi Rig does that. I don't know what the Hilti set up costs, but its exactly the same thing.
Interesting!!! thanks for your comment
Good informative video .. how much tools have advanced is amazing to see
In the US you can buy Hilti at certain Home Depot stores. My local one used to sell them but not anymore. The Hilti store is close enough to me anyway
I started using Hilti in 1974, good old TE17
I inherit that from my father had it for 40 years till it was stolen:)) now i also use hilti in electrics and their indistructible
Hilti in Norway is sold not by Hiti, but a store-brand which sells Festool and Hilti exclusively
23:54 thought they were blowing on waste pipes 😂
brilliant filming Ed and a brilliant episode robin keep ya channel going robin love it..
Thank you Derren, I would like to echo your comment and also thank Ed for his amazing work on this project, 1 mobile phone and a small action camera!! He sees the shot and gets all the important stuff, he is not just a great up coming carpenter but a great director too!!
@22:55 ..."Sure...My vacation has been swell".....😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Clearly the fleet management/van lease analogy makes a lot of sense for the bigger firms. I think a lot of one man band traders still buy their van outright and run it until it dies, same with tools. I think there is a massive hurdle in the trades in that there is a very closed mindset to new ideas, the "well that's how we've always done it" brigade is a reason a lot of the workmanship quality seems to be at an all time low.
Ive being using hilti products for over 25 years the cost has always been expensive compared to your mid range tools like dewalt, makita. Bosch. What you do get in return is a no argument back up service and in the worst case cant be repaired a replacement tool for free . I recently had a drill that needed fixing got repaired but then it managed to get lost in re delivery back to the store. As it had being missing for a month i did avengly say i wasn't happy about it and could i get it replaced for the new version as i was on the old version but had started to get some of new platform nuron tools. From the point of asking it was changed the next day. The drill was a year old and im not on fleet management as i prefer to pay out right with out the worry of having a tool bill every month.
So you don’t buying “mid range” tools like Bosch,Makita etc. you buying it under Hilti name like “high end tools”😂😂😂Many Hilti tools are Bosch.
@dusanmilojevic3017 who says I only buy hilti. With hilti you are paying for the after service
@@wrightwoodworkYes that’s true.
@@dusanmilojevic3017 Just the corded grinders and corded drills at the moment.
They already have had those crane things for cameramen for absolute years, called the Easyrig. Actually rrally helped with carrying heavy tv cameras all day and allowed you to 'shoot from the hip' more easily. Can see how it would be useful in heavy construction despite all the hate.
Interesting video Robin. I did not know you could Fleet manage tools. Hope some of those developments make it to market plscr once patents run out. Tools look amazing
They have being doing the fleet management for maybe 15 years
Whatever Hilti tools I have ever used. They have been good tools. And as you say the distribution in house. Back in the UK in the late eighties I started leasing my work vehicle. On a three year lease. And yes you can lease Hilti tools. This probably works in a lot of places. But by only doing self distribution they are drastically reducing the access to their tools. In Qld Australia where I now live. I can drive an hour to my closest tool shop. In fact an hour will get me to three of the biggest tool shops we have. The nearest Hilti outlet about a two hour drive. And it isn't very big. I guarantee they would not have loan replacements. I would also bet it would likely be weeks to get the tool back. Not days. And there is no service to get the tool back to me. So would be a four hour round trip to go and collect. The tool monitor system probably would also be useless. As a lot of areas I work have no phone coverage. So in short you may have good tools. But the premium service you are paying for is not available. If I lived in Brisbane a bit more so. But to get the full benefit you would probably have to live in Melbourne or Sydney. So by limiting outlets this has reduced the full potential sales area to one corner of the country. Not sure about Perth.
Yeah bro but you're forgetting one thing living in australia, the only way u can ruin these tools is by droping them in water. With the way you guys build there you can actually use hilti 24/7 and they won't fail. Hilti is insane in europe and we have reinforced concrete bricks and hard construction not cardboard and wood like you guys so.. yeah pay premium its no problem. As an example their te17 from 1970 still works, I haven't broke a hilti in 20 years..i just update them or replace them if get stolen. If u use grease for drills and a compresor at the end of the day to blow dust. You gonna die before your tools do.
When I first started in the building game Hilti was a tool you could only really hire, they made all the 'big' tools their quality cannot be called into question but...as a single/self employed 'contractor' their pricing has always been out of reach to most, I still feel they are for the larger firms especially on 'lease' which is a great idea. From where I sit the rise of Festool in the top end quality tools has made them go into the 'lower' end of 'hand' power tools (Am I right in thinking Hilti were 1st with SDS bits?) (Robin covertly try to sell his roofing square app to Hilti, if only you square has a motor on it and was battery operated :)) Props to Hilti to offer up not only the Owner but the board to ask questions to! How before Festool start offering the 'leasing' deal? or do you think their sales are where they want them to be.
very informative video, at the age of 62 I just watch which wonder of what the future hold with the technology involved.
Any idea of when the uk will see the new tools
Hilti UK are bringing many of the products on stream during the course of 2024, I will hopefully showcase some of these as they are launched
Do they have any solutions for theft? How does it work with the fleet management option?
I'm not 100% sure how it works fully works. With the new batteries they have an nfc chip that you can scan on your phone and gives a location. I also think the charger gives a location of any batteries put on charge, but not sure if it needs an add on
@wrightwoodwork Interesting, would be great if they put the chip in the device. But lads would know where they are and remove them. Theft on the building site is a PITA, much of the theft is internal as well.
carried yourself well in the meeting robin. And i been looking at rear handle milwaukee saws recently after watching this checked out hilti..
190mm battery saw (not rear handle) with 2 batteries and charger is £1200+VAT.. £1500 is a lot. That's basically 3x the cost for a m18 version. hmmm
yeah the difference is you can work 12 hours straight with hilti and after 2 hours m18 will burn.
When is the mitre saw being released?
Very soon, hopefully someone from @hilti can answer this for you here in the comments
Really looking forward to this, I've been really impressed with my nuron tools so far. Thanks for the reply, love your channel.
Hilti rep told me it's looking like the mitre saw will be released this summer
Never been lucky enough to own a hilti tool but worked for a guy with a gun that fired nails into RSJs. You couldn't pull them out.
The nail guns you talk about are brilliant!!
Exoskeleton is something out of a sci fi movie amazing
Not really. Similar rigs have been in use in the film industry for cameras for decades.
Very interesting, I always assumed they were an American company.
Nope, the company and its founder were fanatic supporters of Hitler in WWII… probably the least company I would ever consider to buy.
The founder was an active volunteer in Waffen-SS and very active in Nazi movement in Liechtenstein. During WW2 Hilti built and supplied weaponry for the German Nazis.
@@hyperbolemeand the founder even stayed head of the company until the 80s.. the company refuses to even admit this fact up to this day
lol no, the tools are too good to be american tools. American can't make tools like this because they don't need it, they build with cardboard and wood in 2024, who needs hilti for that.
If anyone uk based is looking for a good deal on hilti tools they are doing black Friday deals from 20th to 30th plus selling of many display items from the nuron range. Like the te6 which retails for around 620 for around 320 bare unit plus battery pack for 220 with 2 batteries plus a charger which is usually around 100 per item. If anyone is interested it would be best to get in touch with there local store
Sounds great!!
I knew I should have waited for the Nuron 360 green laser. Oh well I guess Ill just have to save up and buy another the Nuron version.
Its so bright!!!!
@ukconstruction It looks bright in the video I could only imagine in person what it's like.
I like Hilti tools but there so expensive they make festool prices look reasonable 😂
As usual highly professional presentation Robin, I am not a fan of their tools. Makes my back hurt just looking at them. Further, those high torque drills are extremely dangerous for your wrist. I'll keep my Festool & interior grade work any day of the week! Month or Year.
-JD
HI Jon, thanks for your message, the drills have overcome the injury risks and they have an auto kickback feature that stops the drill if it suddenly jams and the motor cuts
Top secret “production” is selling other tools under Hilti name (at much higher price of course).
Harsh!!
First thought that came to mind, remember seeing Dean Doherty's teardown of the GX90WF Framing nailer for £1294.80, reality is it's a rebranded budget TJEP nailer worth around £504.95, different housing, all the same internals, i.e the bits that make the tool last. Funny seeing comments of that nailer saying It's the best nailer going, so much better than xyz equivelant. It's amazing what a bit of branding and inflated price can do to the perception of a product.
No need to have included Lee & Reuben, they have their own channel!!🤣🤣🤣
Had a great few days with the lads, they are brilliant young men and I was super happy to feature them, we spent all our time in the same group, these boys are the real deal!!
9.11 the sign says CLUNGE 😹
Well spotted!!
So we can expect to see you only using Hilti tools in your videos in future.
The executive board seems distant from the field and again seems under the stress of realizing the sales budget. HILTI seems to be going south.
are hilti the bug eaters of the tool industry ?
Hilti’s mostly cheaper than Makita and Milwaukee in my part of the world.
Bosch invented sds. Hilti, Mafell etc have always been marketed to businesses rather than consumers, hence the price of the majority of their tools is out of reach for your average Joe. Festool markets to consumers, so their pricing is lower, and their tools although decent are more gimmicky.
Not about carpentry or HILTI. I still try to figure out how come you are looking clearly younger than 5 years ago (Skill Builder) videos???
I am trying to be calm and not get too busy!! oh and my wife Beccy looks after me well!!
you WILL own nothing AND be 'happy'...
Is that you Winston?
Research the history of the company and makes even more sense 👍
@@harveysmith100 No, its Klaus Schwab. Notice how they have an office in Davos of all places.... makes you think.....
@@kermito3659Certainly does. Also, it shows you the dire state of our economy and wages, when some workers can’t even afford to buy quality tools to do their job, and have to lease them. This world is f**ked!
Sadly, Hilti in the UK have lost the plot. Tools are fine, but spares department is in Germany and even consumables like springs, o-rings, gaskets, etc. take a minimum of 10 days, with no sense of urgency! Appalling!
I have lost almost 2 months this year with tools not working for trivial spare parts...
What about if it gets stolen, that’s what happens to most of us
The tools can be traced I believe, via the Global cellular network as and when they are used so I recall Hilti mentioning that their products can be potentially found
@@ukconstruction that would be a good feature…. I’ve had my van robbed a few times
That’s the whole selling point of Hilti Fleet Management in the UK. You provide Hilti the police report and Hilti sends you replacement tools the next day. Their theft protection is nowhere as awesome as that in the US. Here you pay 20% of the remainder of your contract on each stolen tool. So, you get an 80% discount, but still have no tools.
Look at the movie industry, they've been using exo-skeletons for donkeys years, a knackered back isn't something to brag about
The tool lift is copied from Stihl.
I have not seen the Stihl version, interesting...
@@ukconstruction Sorry its a Honda Easy Lift Harness, Its mainly used for the hedge clippers, I used one and it certainly helped on the arms if you are cutting hedges all day.
Data from a powertool uploading to a company is crazy wr should NOT be okay with that. Down right creepy, and for sure exploitable. should be asked if your okay with it before you ever even spend money on the tool. Its just not needed technology. Diagnostics can happen without sending info srraight to company. Pointless shit. Only good rhing would be gps if tools stilen. Then put a gps module and be done with it. It openly being able to talk to a server without wifi it just has thebprotocols built in?!?! Like no. Not cool. Can just see it now how many peoples home networks will be infected because theyre tools were infected with malware that waits for a home connection and infects that device when connected by impersonation o the tool in question.
How long till i can order a fuxkin pizza from my drill...
It's not for everyone but like it or loath it. Technology is here to stay, many every day modern devices are using similar tech to monitor and improve the functionality, and your comment about ordering a pizza... many modern fridges in people home can do exactly that!!
What the hell are people going on about the Second World War for. What’s that got to do with tools. Get a grip you lot.
Honestly, it’s better than the losers claiming it’s expensive or waxing on about their Milwaukee garbage.
Sorry Robin, but this company, and especially its founder and son, should first admit and take responsibility to its crimes during WWII.. the fact that the company is so advanced and wealthy does not come from great engineering in the first place, it comes from forgetting and denying to build weapons for the nazis and forced labour.. even the whole country Liechtenstein refuses to work through the past of this company…
Reason enough not to buy Hilti, especially poignant on armistice day
Robin, use Hilti all you want if you like them and the feel of them, I have never used any Hilti tool but have worked with many tradesmen that have. Nothing but high regard. Now MucMaxx, you're nothing but an antiwhite loser. Get a grip piss ant. Atonement cannot be made for a grievance never committed.
You can add to this list, Hugo Boss, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, AEG, Siemens, Coca Cola, Ford, General Motors, NASA, Volkswagon, Switzerland, Krupps, Bosch, Metabo, the list goes on and on. Best stop buying Japanese cars and electronics too come to that.
Watch out They are taking over the world one drill at a time
The past is the past. We cannot blame a son for the sins of the father.