Loading and Shooting the Pietta 1873 .44 Black Powder Revolver
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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Every now and then I get questions about how to load a Colt 1873 black powder revolver replica, and in this video I'll demonstrate how to do so. Unlike most other cap and ball revolvers, this gun does not have a loading lever so alternative loading procedures are required. Thanks for watching, enjoy.
Nice job. I have the Pietta 1873 cartridge revolver. Very nice and can use black powder loads. This setup is nice to avoid all nonsense of permits.
Just bought one of these manufactured by Pietta in 1999. Fit and finish is great compared to what I’ve heard about Piettas 90’s quality. Has a mirror polished hammer with correct checkering, deep rich blue, and very beautiful blue case color hardening. Also came with a set of faux ivory grips. Cost me half of what a new one costs. Still my best purchase to this day.
Sounds like a great find! Despite being historically-inaccurate and all that, it's a fun revolver to shoot on the range.
Dude you got to invite Brickell to shoot BP with you. Your charisma combined with her body and production #1 hit show. 1st episode how to do a tactical reload with a 1860
In my Pietta 1860s Army snubbed I use the brass dowl pin they give you. Worked fine
That works. Thanks for watching!
Great instructions! Those case/boxes are nice too!
Thank you!
Headed to you eBay store when I can, great video! I was looking to add to my collection looking at different black powder models and found you channel
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching!
Those boxes look really well-made, you need to make a video and showing how you make them, which could also be good advertisement.
Thanks for the suggestion, I was considering doing that. Thanks for watching!
Yes Ben, got something good going, Maybe he can expand to Full Storage Cases, Stands etc. Where people can store their Black powder arsenals!
Those cases look really nice
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Outstanding test video Mr. Black Powder Shooter 44, Ben!
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I got to say your craftsmanship is exceptional and you got a good thing going with your custom revolver presentation boxes. Maybe you should consider making Full Storage Boxes or Loading/Storage Stands, a Case like an Armory where people can store their percussion revolvers knifes etc.
Best Wishes, Keep up the good work, Safe Journeys!
Good info Kaido, thanks!
Well the ejector rod is indeed used for ramming but not round balls
Try minie ball and it would work just fine
Wonder if they have a cylinder conversion kit for this...
Great video. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I took the ejector rod off of mine as I don't lime having non functioning things on my guns. if i ever had to carry one of my cap and ball revolvers for self defence I would use my 1873. most options for a comfortable and secure holster, fully protected nipples, and mine has a safety notch in the cylinder for the hammer.
I agree, the ejector rod has no use and is just another thing to clean I just like the way it looks on the gun.
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Your boxes are great! Can you make them for Ruger Blackhawks / Super Blackhawks? Maybe with 6 places for 6 cartridges? That would be sick!
Thanks! I haven't made any boxes for Ruger Blackhawks up to this point, but if I'm able to get the dimensions I would consider doing that in the future. If I may ask, what do you mean by 6 places for 6 cartridges? Do you mean 6 small compartments that you can fit one cartridge in?
@@blackpowdershooter44 sorry, hard to describe. Like 6 holes for each cartridge to push into. So you would see the revolver, then 6 cartridges projectile side down, so that you could see the primer/head stamp.
@@Sunbear415 I see what you're saying now, that's a great idea!
Link doesn't work for me, shrug. Too bad, they looked nice.
I remember seeing an article in a Polish gun magazine (cap and ball are popular there) that there was one piece made like that in Colt factory in the 1870s per custom request. Does anyone know anything about it?
CCI No. 10 caps are tight for me. I load up all chambers, I squeeze the trigger and there's no bang. I go to fire again and this time it goes bang. I quickly find out that CCI caps are just tight and I switched to Remington No. 10 caps and I don't have any problems.
Yeah CCI #10's don't fit all revolvers well, I agree with you. Thanks for watching!
If you don’t touch the cylinder the pin comes out much easier,any pressure against the cylinder makes it much harder to pull the pin
Makes sense. In any case, the cylinder pin removal tool is a must for someone who has one of these revolvers. Thanks for watching!
@@blackpowdershooter44 I have 2 pietta and 1 uberti 1873s and if I hold it by the barrel and push the button without touching the cylinder ,the pin comes out much easier. Keeping it wet with oil helps also. I hate to pry anything against the frame because it will show wear eventually.
I tried so hard to order one of those boxes off of your eBay for my 1851 Navy but for some reason quite a few websites don't like to accept my bank card I'll get one one day
Well I appreciate that. Was the link to my store working correctly? Sometimes it doesn't work for whatever reason. Thank you again for considering purchasing one of the boxes!
@@blackpowdershooter44 yes the link was working perfectly it's just my bank card for some reason gets rejected on a lot of websites even Amazon for whatever
They should have used the ejector rod as the cylinder removal pin.
They should have. At least it would have been useful for something!
Nice, sorry for the late reply but works been hectic.
No worries, thanks for stopping in.
Stay safe out there
THANKS U SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO
Hi! Very good video, it's worth learning how it's done in the West 👍 Can this model be loaded with 21 grains and a different size bullet, 454 or 457? Is the 451 You use better? (for 5,5 barrel). Greetings!
The right size bullet is dependent on the diameter of the chamber in the cylinder. Some of these .44 cal revolvers fit .454's better, where others could require a .457, for example. The best sized round ball is the one that leaves a ring of lead when the ball is loaded into the cylinder. Thanks for watching!
@@blackpowdershooter44 If the ring is left on, it fits tightly and that's good. I will measure the diameter of the chambers with a caliper, that's an idea 👍 Thank you for your answer and I wish you many "Tens" and good luck on the YT channel :) Regards!!!
I like your awesome video! How long is your barrel on that gun? It looks like it's a 7" barrel.
7.5". Thanks for watching!
First off. Thank you for taking the tie to make and share this video with us. Could you post a link for the loader? I have a cheap version I got from Cabelas. Already broke it once. Had to drill and tap it to remount the ram.
Glad you enjoyed the video! The loader is from Powderinc: powderinc.com/product-category/cylinder-loader/
@@blackpowdershooter44 which cylinder loader would work best on .44 black powder revolvers
@@command221 The one shown in the video; Powderinc cylinder loading stand works great.
This gun makes absolutely 0 sense unless you live in an area where centerfire SAA’s are illegal and you just really want one. I love black powder percussion revolvers but this design (fouling problems, no rammer on the gun, etc.) are just too much.
yeah thats why they make it obviously
*cough* *cough* felons no background check no ffl ships to your door add a cartridge conversion and now you have cartridge firing gun no 4473
The only viable option if you love the gun design, not if you love shooting.
An 1860 Army shoots the same ammunition and does it a lot better than a percussion 1873. The 1873 was designed for metallic cartridges, so the cylinder was bored through and the entire length employed to hold the charge. To create a percussion version, you have to add metal back into the cylinder to hold the loose gunpowder, making the chambers in the cylinder ridiculously small.
The 1873 Percussion simply cannot hold as much powder as an 1860 Army revolver does. The cylinder is too short (it's shorter than the one in a .36 caliber Colt Navy!)
Hi, could you help me?
I am about to buy an 1873 5.5, 357/38 and I would like to know briefly which one I should buy / which one is better, among them Cimarron, Traditions, Pietta and Uberti, which one would have more quality and would not give me any problems. Thank you, I await the reply.
Uberti makes Cimarron-labeled guns, so they are the same. It's the same with Traditions guns, they are made by Pietta. Uberti made revolvers are generally the better quality of the 2 brands, though I have no problems with Pietta revolvers. Thanks for watching!
@@blackpowdershooter44 Thank you very much for the information and your dedication. It was very useful. I will study more in relation to these materials. I will definitely buy one of these revolvers. Thankful.
I just purchased one of these from midway. Are those slingshot roundballs? Kinda shiny for blackpowder, not that it matters. Thanks for the video
They are pure lead round balls, probably casted not long before the video and thus do not have the oxidized appearance. Thanks for watching!
I'd Like To Buy The Box For The1860 Colt, But Clicking On The Sight Doesn't Work. Is There Another Way?
Thanks for asking. I put up a new box a few days ago and it sold almost immediately, I will put a new one up this weekend. Thanks!
Does this model ship directly to your house
In most states/jurisdictions, yes. I think the only issues would be in Illinois, New Jersey, Michigan, California maybe....and I think Ohio. I'd check your local laws. But in most states yes, any black powder cap and ball gun ships to your home
@@Touchstarvedguy I have already checked and it does but thank you and as far as California is concerned black powder guns can be shipped directly to the house
Says the ebay page is not found.
Those cases are really nice! I got one like those from Taylor’s a while back but I really like the darker finish you put on them.
I would like to do a conversion on one of these. But I hear it is quite the affair. Does the ejection rod work or is it fixed in place?
The ejection rod does work actually, which is pretty funny because it doesn't do anything with the cap and ball version. Does your box from taylors have something in place that prevents it from opening all the way? I'm thinking about adding that feature to some of the boxes in the future.
@@blackpowdershooter44 yeah it props up on something not sure what.
@@blackpowdershooter44 I took a closer look and the hinges have raised portions that meet and hold it at a 90 degree. Next time I see yours on eBay I’m going to get one.
@@Munkylaw Thank you! I am going to put 2 different models back up for sale this weekend, and will put a link in the video description, though I hear that the link sometimes doesn't work correctly.
This might be an option with a conversion cylinder?
The issue with that is if that was the case, then the people in the european markets that can't buy cartridge guns would not be able to buy this model either because it would then be capable of firing both cartridges and cap and ball. Thanks for watching!
Would it be safe to use 25 g of 777
Yep!
@@blackpowdershooter44 awesome thank you 🙏
Would be my last choice. I’ll stay with 1851 or 1860
It's a good shooter, but doesn't make as much sense as a regular Colt or Remington replica, as you mentioned. Thanks for watching!
I have never understood the concept for putting a retrofitted to percussion, cartridge revolver on the market. It is a form of de-evolution and not very practical. "We are not men, we are DEVO."
Ebay link to those beautiful boxes is broken. Are they still available?
Do they make a conversion cylinder for this gun? If they do it’s probably 200 bucks, 400 for the pistol, 200 for the cylinder, probably be just better off buying a Cimarron in .45 Colt or something. Sorry just thinking out loud. Ran across one for sale with a pound of lead balls, a rammer stand, 2 big bags of wads for $450. Was trying to debate if I wanted it or not.
They do not, the frame is designed a little differently to make it not compatible with a 45 LC cylinder.
@@blackpowdershooter44 thanks for the feedback. I think I’m gonna pass on buying it. I’ve got an 1851 and an 1860 Pietta. I don’t think I’d like the idea of having to take the cylinder off everytime I want to reload. I do want a reloading stand though. Those display cases look good too by the way.
@@wvbygraceofgod5508 Glad you like the boxes, I appreciate it! Btw, you can always take that $450 and put it towards an 1858 Remington... Just saying lol. Thanks for watching
@@blackpowdershooter44 1858 New Model Army was really what I was wanting next for a black powder. It’s funny you even mentioned that, I think that’s a sign, lol
You have a proper powder flash why not just powder directly from it? The volumetric spouts screw on and off, or you can cut that one down to throw the volumetric charge of 25 grains, but black powder and all substitutes are made to throw by volume so the volume your spout throws with one matches the others regardless of grain weight.
You place your fingertip over the end of the spout, open the valve with your thumb, and turn it upside down to let powder fill the spout, then close the valve and tilt by up - you have the proper amount in your spout. The method you're using isn't giving you any better accuracy so why complicate the process.
I rather keep the 30 grain spout as I use that with the majority of my other .44 cal cap and ball revolvers, thus the reason for pouring the powder into the measure. 30 grains is just a bit much for the 1873s' chamber capacity, at least with the particular revolver I have
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Around how much is one of those old guns ?
I feel like that gun was converted to shoot cartridges then back to powder
Can you order a conversion cylander then shoot cowboy loads?
No, you cannot. Thanks for watching!
Do they do a conversion for these
No. Unless you buy the cartridge model of course
That is the most cursed thing I’ve ever seen
Still fun to shoot on the range from time to time. Thanks for tuning in
that gun is made to be converted to shells my guy. just buy the cylinder for it.
The firing pin on the hammer, and more importantly the slot in the frame where the firing pin on the hammer would strike the primer on a cartridge is offset. This means it cannot be converted to firing cartridges unless one were to grind open the frame and install another hammer so that the hammer could strike a centerfire cartridge, likely causing a safety issue.
In every one of your videos the wind is terrible! Love what you're doing but damn man, fix the issue.
Thinking as someone shopping for CCW purposes, would you reliably depend on this pattern of revolver in a self-defense situation? Or would you recommend another?
Shouldnt you wear gloves to handle black powder and lead?
Accidentally rolled one of those #10 caps up in a joint and was smoking it on my way to the gym when it exploded in my face!! Scared the fuck outta me. That's what I get for capping my revolvers and rolling a joint at the same time without wearing my glasses!!
RECOMMENDATION: SAFETY: never load powder I all chambers before adding wads and bullets. There is a potential to overcharge a single chamber. Do your loading one chamber at a time.
This is something that many very highly experienced black powder shooters will tell you.
This revolver cannot hold more than 35 grains of powder, if that, and thus there is no danger. That said, I can appreciate what you're saying here. Safety first
@@blackpowdershooter44 Imam 8. Revolvera i uvek stavljam podmaz preko kugle. Pčelinji vosak ili vazelin. Vi niste. Kugla kod mene ide direktno na barut.
Cool gun but looks like it’s a pain to load.
I find it's more of a pain to remove the base pin, but then again I usually load all my revolvers with the cylinder loader off the gun anyways. Thanks for watching!
No thanks
Where's your capping tool? You wasted money on a rifle measure instead of using the flask only, but you didn't get a capper? WTF?
Relax. Powder measure was used because the 28 grain spout pours a load that is larger than this particular revolvers cylinder can hold with a wad, and thus the reason for pouring into a powder measure. Since I have multiple muzzleloaders, some of which are rifles with large powder capacities, how is the rifle measure a waste of money?
A lot of assumptions and guessing right off the bat, not good
Lol
You should have someone do some writing or speaking for you. This was painful to try and listen to
So if I'm making a video with any kind of speaking, I should stand in front of the camera but have another person talk? If you can't take it, don't watch it. Simple as that.
The only cool thing about these is if someone made a conversion kit to shoot cartridges, but apparently Pietta makes these so that converting them to cartridges is near impossible. I would like to see more C&B revolvers not based off historical designs (Ruger did a great job with their Old Army) I know there's a company in the UK (don't know their name sadly) that makes double action C&B revolvers with modern designs and materials. Can't imagine they're cheap, but they are interesting.
I believe they make it this way so that people in the UK can buy these and actually say it's a black powder firearm. If I was able to just pop a cartridge cylinder in there then of course it would be a cartridge gun that can shoot black powder as well which would be great, but the laws over there don't allow standard firearms for the most part, as we know. Thanks for watching!
@@blackpowdershooter44 Actually, from what I've gathered, cartridge converted cap and ball revolvers are okay to own and don't require a second license.
My guess is the reason Pietta went out of their way to make these unable to hold a cartridge cylinder is they made these many years after they had started manufacturing the 1851's and 1858's and other true C&B revolvers, then other companies started making cylinders for them where people could shoot smokeless ammo from them and Pietta was like, "WTF? Ok, if you're gonna do that, we'll make this so you can't shoot anything but black powder."
Uh, A-L-L 1873 Peacemaker Frame revolvers, of whatever brand, and whether it's a cartridge OR percussion cap pistol, should ALWAYS LOAD FIVE (5) , N-E-V-E-R - 6 ! For Example, this is why Ruger quit making the single action old model 3 screw, .22, .357, .44, etc and designed a transfer bar safety for the revolver because ignorant, inexperienced shooters kept loading 6 and accidentally firing a load! STUPID! On the 4 click models,
A-L-W-A-Y-S keep the hammer back ''1 Click''
''KNOWLEDGE'' is also a ''Safety'' ! There are MANY variations of the 1873 peacemaker, whether it's the original Colt, the 1970s Virginian Dragoon, Ruger with adjustable sights, Uberti, who by the way, makes an excellent reproduction, & several others. The point is, they are all based on the Colt 1873 Peacemaker Frame (or the Army M1873 until almost the end of the 19th century) Incidentally, Ruger modified the design by removing the double leaf spring and replacing it with coil springs! However, I have made my own leaf springs out of feeler gauge leafs. But instead of ONE THICK SPRING like came with the gun that always breaks, I stack about 5 or 6 thinner ''feeler gauge leafs'' together! Which hardy ever break. Use a Dremel to make the springs, and keep and use the original hole in the feeler gauge for the screw. If you'd much rather replace the broken spring with store bought, go ahead. I NEVER do though
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