This Is NOT a Firearm
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Today I’m going to show you guys one of the most often overlooked exemptions in US gun laws, how it works, and why these guns aren’t consider firearms.
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“Only causes cancer in the state of California so we should be good” I love that line
Me too! I was about to write exactly what you did! 😁👍
Lead largely replaces iron binding to hemoglobin and decreases oxygen transport. Perhaps other impacts on anemia. Best not to eat the stuff.
California is worried about game with bullets in it, or field dressing leaving lead in meat which is then eaten by birds. And the lethal impact on birds.
every once in awhile a cord will rub my arm and I'm thinking damnit cancer but oh yeah I don't live in Cali.
To be fair, the air in California causes cancer. I wouldn't be too scared.
@@C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd some of these people don't care about science and facts mate. Most of those said people are probably too stupid to understand anything other than point , pull trigger, thing goes boom.
ATF: "I can't define what a firearm is, I'm not an engineer"
More proof of how dumb congress is
Also AFT; That's not a firearm, but a binary trigger and bumpstiok is a machine gun 🙄 and brace shouldered is an SBR 😪 "edited because I'm an old man blind and not great at text"
Its AFT.....🤣🤣🤣
@@Kmurray9244 haha agreed!
@@Kmurray9244 a bootlace is a machine gun, and therefore a firearm.
That piece of conduit you bought at Home Depot is a "silencer" and therefore a firearm. So is that washer.
Fun fact. we have the same thing in the UK "antique" black powder weapons require no licence over here, we actually had a bit of a problem with flintlock crime because of this
Hand over thy dabloons
Not true. Muzzle-loading pistols - including cap and ball revolvers - can be held on a Section 1 Firearms Certificate, and they can either be originals or modern repro's. These can be fired on ranges or other permitted locations. On the other hand, some pistols in calibres deemed obsolete (essentially no longer manufactured) can be held without a licence as "curios" if they are not intended to be fired. The moment someone obtains ammunition and fires them, they commit a crime.
@@Nickcooper625 ok random youtube guy. you must know better than gov.uk, cos this says "2. Under section 58(2) of the Firearms Act 1968, antique firearms which are sold, transferred, purchased, acquired or possessed as a curiosity or ornament are exempt from most of the controls in the 1968 Act, including the need for certification and being able to trade in them without being registered with the police as a firearm dealer."
it also contains this
"8. A firearm can be regarded as an antique if its propulsion system is of a specified description (see section 58(2C) of the 1968 Act). Regulation 3 of the Antique Regulations specifies the following types of propulsion system:
a) any propulsion system which involves the use of a loose charge and a separate ball (or other missile) loaded at the muzzle end of the barrel, chamber or cylinder of the firearm and which uses an independent source of ignition. This covers muzzle-loading firearms;"
www.gov.uk/government/publications/circular-0012021-antique-firearms/circular-0012021-antique-firearms-regulations-2021-and-the-policing-and-crime-act-2017-commencement-no11-and-transitional-provisions-regulations
heres a great example of this, here you can see an active firearm, which requires no licence to trade.
www.gunstar.co.uk/tranter-percussion-revolver-442-revolver/Pistol-Hand-Guns/1581454
and im sure i imagined the problem as well
www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/birmingham-criminals-using-19th-century-8021685
"The moment someone obtains ammunition and fires them, they commit a crime." Well duh, that's not just antiques. if i go out and shoot my legally owned weapons its a crime my guy
Brandon I might be white I might be Mexican Herrera!
@@soup8249 I'm surprised that even after you've read half the legislation you are still confused by the distinction. "Obsolete" handguns can indeed be held, "as a curiosity or ornament," i.e. not fired. However, if they are intended to be fired, they have to be on a FAC, and the only ones that can be put on Section 1 are "muzzle loaders." Your initial comment made it sound like the situation in the US, which it clearly isn't. Someone could indeed buy that Tranter without a FAC, but only to stick it on a wall or in a display cabinet. They can't actively shoot it without a FAC. Obsolete cartridge handguns can't be put on a Section 1 FAC at all.
Your 'Birmingham Mail' report also does not support your spurious claim that, "we actually had a bit of a problem with flintlock crime." It talks about, "early 20th century weapons," which aren't "flintlocks," and mentions the St Etienne revolver, which is a cartridge firearm, and also not a "flintlock." The only way that "flintlocks" come into it are a couple of examples shown as being handing in during amnesties, not because they were used in crimes.
In Australia, even paintball guns are considered a firearm. Nearly anything that fires a projectile is considered a firearm. Complete different world.😂
Is ones arm now considered a firearm now too? It is capable of throwing a projectile 😀
Watch out, socks are now firearms, stick a rock in them and give it a spin!
In Canada it's determined by the velocity of the projectile, thus even a high-powered pellet gun can be determined to be a firearm, especially if used in the commission of a crime.
In Northern Ireland, any gun-like toy that shoots a projectile with more than ONE Joule of muzzle energy is classed as a firearm.
Yeah the kangaroos have more civil liberties than the humans 😂
Regarding the insane anti-gun laws, I have long prayed, "Lord, confuse my enemies." This is one of the ways he's come through.
@kevin weinz "If you need permission it's not really a right" -Based Proverbs 1:1
@kevin weinz Jesus did say those without a sword, sell your cloak for one. Man himself had a whip.
Turn your entire ground floor into a grapeshot cannon battery for home defense
@kevin weinz Someone had to get the swindlers out the temple.
@@achair7265 the man himself "made a wip" he didn't ask no one for permission
Here in NY, these are now firearms. I just bought one a couple weeks ago, I had to complete the NICS check and you need a pistol license now to possess one, just like any other handgun. It's a great law that should stop all the shootings in NYC with 1800 era black powder pistols. Gang members are robbing stage coaches and having duels outside saloons with these, apparently.
Illinois they are firearms as well sadly enough. Imagine having to have a FOID card that we are required to have to begin with and then having to have one AND fill out a 4473 for a black powder device? What have we come to really? Sad point in time for us. 😞
Same here in Minnesota
I believe NJ they were always considered firearms. In NY though I’m pretty sure it only requires all that if you have the necessary ammunition to fire it, if you intend to use it as a decoration you should be able to buy without a NICS check.
Same. In New Jersey they are guns and you need a pistol/ handgun license to own them
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The ATF does classify this as a firearm but is listed at a "antique firearm" also known as a muzzleloader. I know this as I am a felon and this is a firearm I do own and am allowed to own a antique or replica of a firearm as long as it does not fire by center-fire or rimfire and I believe has to be made or reproduced before the mid/late 1800s. Just a reminder, as a felon (who myself finished my probation in 2012) your gun rights are not totally gone for life!
I believe the cut-off is 1896 (Its anything before 1898, thanks Russ G.), most that are available are from about 1840-1860, and good luck with your arguments if you ever have to use whatcha pack.
@LabRat Knatz I agree. Lifetime firearms bans are mostly nonsensical, especially with so many non-violent crimes being classified as felonies.
I actually own one, as I have a felony conviction in my past for a non-violent technically victimless crime. And I do have my gun rights restored, but unfortunately not every state recognizes that. So that's the reason I carry the black powder pistol
Got the rep of a felon, for weapon concealin'
Fuck the law.
"This is not a firearm"
I agree, it's a hand cannon
This is not a firearm?
No its big iron
xD
@@TMG64 there live an outlaw by the name of texas red
The black powder repro is not considered a firearm under federal law. The cartridge conversion cylinder by itself is not considered a firearm. If you install the cartridge conversion cylinder onto the black powder repro frame the feds consider it 'manufacturing' a firearm and it will be classified as a firearm at that point.
First one of its kind.
"cap and ball... torture... whatever--"
I love how he knew that joke was a mistake the millisecond it left his mouth
Yeah, totally a mistake, not scripted and rehearsed at all.
@@cymond scripted or not, still caught me off guard and made me giggle a bit
Im into that
I know a 17 year old who got one online, these are a blessing from an age that gave us such an awsome looking set of guns. Love these videos, so educational.
Got mine when I was 16
Unless you're a felon and you want the fedbois knocking down your door and shooting your dog
@America’s Guard ever heard of Google?
@@philswift8311 same
I got one at 14 lmao
Those blackpowder revolvers are actually available for purchase in Poland without a permit. Anything designed after 1850 needs one. Also it is still considered as a firearm by law.
Well some of them to bad you guys can’t get a 1851 but you can get a 1849
You do need a permit of sorts to buy the powder though in Poland according to my friends there.
Luckily the next door country has no such requirement ;)
What about in the untied kingdom. Will Boris take this one as well?
@@displeasedgentleman7360 you can own actual antique black powder handgats in the UK... As antiques. To fire them you need a licence that can be absurdly hard to get, because britbongland.
Eww you need permits for firearms😂
U.K: Pepper spray is a firearm!1!!!!1!
U.S: You call that a firearm?
Evidently the English don't know the definitions of "THEIR" Words
Pepper spray is not considered a firearm in Arizona. Bit of you use it it has to be to protect yourself against somebody who is actually attacking you.
My brother and I were driving one day, when we came across an accident scene involving a car and a truck carrying fuel. We left after the emergency services arrived, and my brother decided to light up a smoke. He forgot his arm was still coated in some of the spilled fuel, so as soon as he tried to light up, his arm caught on fire. He immediately pushed his arm out the window, to try and put the flames out, and a cop pulled us over and arrested him. He was charged with pointing of a fire arm.
@Circ Omnia,
That's a good joke!😂
@@ronniepirtlejr2606 the man's brother was arrested after saving someone's life. The audacity of some people.
His Hand was on fire and you’re laughing shame on you
fucking hilarious😂
@@spartanking2972 you’re being ironic right?
“This is not a gun”
- proceeds to take out a handcannon -
*Picks up musket as the british grenadiers plays in the background*
I own a musket for home defense
@@robertrojik5720 as the founding fathers intended, in case 4 ruffians break into my home
@@darylshriver8486 "What the devil?!" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle
@@Keflabutgreen Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot!
We have similar laws here in Switzerland, for "antique" firearms. And funny thing, all the schmidt-rubin rifles (k31, k11, k89, the straight-pull rifles from 1889 to 1957) are also considered "not firearms". We have so many of them in the country that it was to complicated to oblige people to register them all. You just have to be 18
That's very interesting.
Same here in Sweden. Every firearm made before 1890 are considered antique and are totally license free and anyone can own and shot them unless they are cartridge fed. However the issue comes to the gunpowder. Black powder is fine as long as you don’t have more than 200g stored at once. If you want to store more you need a permit from your municipality. It has to do with fire safety and the maximum amount is 5kg and you have to be 18 to by black powder. If you want regular or modern gunpowder you need to have a firearm license.
in germany you need a blackpowder/pyrotecnitian license to use them leagaly, is it unreguleated in switzerland?
Sweden has less strict gun laws than Hawaii thats just great
Howdy! Nice to see a compatriot! I've bought a K11 myself, it's quite surprising actually how easy it is to get. I also have a sphinx SDP (semi auto pistol) and even that was pretty easy to get, all you need is a clear criminal record.
Safety tip: make sure the lugs/ nipples that hold the caps are FULLY screwed into place. They can work loose and unscrew, so that when one chamber fires the recoil drives back the cylinder and other caps strike on the frame of the pistol causing other chambers to discharge. Happened with our old .38 navy colt.
It is important to note that you should ONLY USE BLACK POWDER or a substitute such as PYRODEX. If someone attempted to load smokeless powder in the original black powder cylinder the revolver could blow up in your face! 😵
wait, how?
@@_Circus_Clapped_ modern powder burns faster, it would pressurize the chamber faster than the black powder would.
Causing the chamber to become overpressure and “boom”
You can get the same effect if your one of those people that likes “fine” powder, because If you grind any kind of powder fine it makes it burn faster, and boom.
Soldiers grinding their powder and loading their muskets with it to try to get more power or range or whatever their reason was, often causes their gun to explode.
@@_Circus_Clapped_ chamber pressure with modern smokeless is many times to high. The Ruger old Army is almost a exception. It’s strong enough to handle some modern loads safely.
Thank you for the info. I was wondering what would happen if you switched the black powder for smokeless.
It could blow up in your face even if you use black powder, those things are dangerous
Americans: *gets taxed a little bit too much*
Also Americans: *loads not a firearm with malicious intent*
When Americans get taxed too much they just have a tea party.
@@bremc666 really mate? so when are you having the next tea party?
the average American pays 52% to 56% of his wages in one form of tax or another. in the UK we pay just below 26% on all forms of taxation. a little over half of that goes on the NHS and social uses up about another 12% of that. if you lived in Canada you would be paying just over 11% in tax.
remember you lot had your little tea party over GB asking you to pay just 5% GDP towards your own costs. a rise of just 2% and 1% on top of that to the war with France. so that was just 6% in taxes and your forbears decided to bin the government and do it your own way. also fun fact for you. before 1946 less than 1% of Americans payed tax that was controlled by the IRS.
@@tommyfred6180 Show me on the doll where an American hurt you.
@@tommyfred6180 other way round mate. Plus Europeans make a third of Americans
@@tommyfred6180 *me wiping my American tears with my Bulgarian ak74 and my benelli m4
We have strict gun laws in the Netherlands.
If you manage to own a gun with a license you can expect police at your door from time to time..just to check if you have your firearm stashed in a safe.
Even Airsoft rifles need a license (barely make a dent in a pack of butter)
However, you can freely own big bore air rifles that can kill waterbuffalos with a single shot , they are also not considered firearms.
What do you mean precisely when you say big bore? What caliber are we talking.
I think they are .50 cal!
@@IudiciumInfernalum In this clip he shoots a buffalo with a Seneca Dragon Claw.50 (220FPE / 300 joules of energy)
ua-cam.com/video/khbNTWXpFnw/v-deo.html
Altough there are far more powerful air-rifles on the market, the most powerful one so far is more like an anti-material rifle.
The "AEA Zeus .72 Caliber"
(1500 FPE / 2000 joule of energy!)
ua-cam.com/video/hwaqvHuHGuA/v-deo.html
thats pretty funny. here in america the government would need a full stack of swat team members to check on your legally owned firearms in your own home where im from.
so many people mistrust our government throughout the USA that any warrantless search is likely to wind up in the homeowner telling the police to get lost and even the occasional gun battle.
dont tell them, theyll catch on and ban those too.
one day theyll even file down your teeth and permanently remove your nails... for your own safety.
shit, they might as well just castrate you all too.
"The space under your couch is filthy, btw." - got me dead 🤣☠️⚱️
Straight up FACTS! 🤣🤣🤣
Brandon is always a cowboy hat away from being an honorary member of the true grit cast
Or a npc from red dead redemption lol
Or the modern day Cullen Bohannon! (Hell On Wheels)
@@Gldn1017 They have way more dialogue than him
"Shooting cowboy loads".......Brandon said it, not me.
Insert "Brokeback Mountain" joke here.
Back in the sixties shortly after the Kennedy assassination, the Federal Firearms Law was enacted. At the time I was working part time for a tool maker / gunsmith. He handed me a copy of the legislation and said, "You're now my firearms law expert. Read this and tell me what I need to know." So, yes, there were some of his guns that fell into the "antique" category, and others that didn't. We made sure he didn't load more rounds per month than he should (didn't want to pay for a munitions manufacturer license), etc. We had fun discussing the law and some of its implications. We could have built a complete Gatling gun chambered for modern rounds and still not be in violation of the repeating weapons clause. The only thing is, we couldn't run the weapon electrically the way the military currently operates Gatling guns. Yes, some obvious loop holes.
Well, no electricity is fine, gas actuated hydraulic motor driven... ;)
@OnlyGod MayCommandMe That would still violate the "automatic" weapons clause.
@OnlyGod MayCommandMe the atf... and your dog.
@OnlyGod MayCommandMe no worries, theyll find a dog to shoot in your name
Gun control is part of why they killed JFK
"I was watching the Outlaw Josey Wales, I had my credit card out. Shit happens."
I love the honesty on this channel.
I saw The Outlaw Josey Wales in the theater. And that theater was really big and had a really big screen. My grandmother worked there and she took me to work a lot. She didn't care what movies were rated either. Usually the place was practically empty. So I had it all to myself.
We've all been there. I've had my Walker for 30 years or so... never have gotten around to shooting it. It was calling to me from a gun shop counter.
Caps? Balls? Nipples? Loads? You should be in Congress!
There were stories of French soldiers walking into black powder stores with the matches for their matchlock muskets still lit.
"Occasionally, a large explosion would rip through the countryside in these wars"
Yikes lol
Not the smartest move, and probably the last.
so that's why they stopped using matchlocks
@@kellynolen498 or, flintlock were just better in every way.
I wonder what the last thing was that went though their heads. Probably their asses or their feet, depending on how the explosion went off.
Interesting fact, the Walker was the world's most powerful production handgun until the S&W Model 27(.357 Magnum) came out, in 1935.
that is interesting
Then came the 29 (.44 Magnum) came out
Unless you count the Webley Mars Automatic pistol which was produced in very very small numbers.
@@AverageJoeHotRodShow That is true. It's also true that there were more than 11 times as many Walkers made originally.
Mars Automatic *COUGH COUGH*
Everyone: "So... gun, right?"
Government: "Nope, ball-yeet'n pop-tube!"
Brandon: "... I guess?"
Until a shooting with one of these makes headlines…then it will suddenly be an mg.
Here's Brandon teaching criminals to get a gun
I bought this exact gun and conversion cylinder 2 years ago, came in mail boxed together.
Hope Biden does not find out about these he will call them ghost guns.
I call it my ghostrider gun.
@@LoganKopach3306 Its honestly cheap and easy to go to the plumbing isles and just make an open bolt SMG, I mean what criminal is going to load only 6 rounds and take a year to reload when they can just steal something... Cops lose their weapons all the time, and the locks for their weapons in their cars can often be opened simply with a shim or magnet, its not rocket science.
"Ball-yeet'n-pop-tube" Bwah HA ha haaaaa. 😂
Me: “I just bought a gun!”
My friend: “Wait. That’s illegal.”
@@CursedOutlaw.suspicious no not on America! All restrictions are unconstitutional
I love that his advice basically boils down to, yes kids do try this at home. Obviously worded a little better but still.
"kids, try this at home with supervision cause it's cool, just don't blame me if you get arrested" 🤣
I really hope the feds don't look at this video and act. I've been looking at a Uberti Remington after a friend got one and I just spent a large sum of cash on a new xbox. Might have to return my xbox just to get a revolver before I can't order one.
I got my first black powder cap and ball pistol when I was about 12, over 40 years later no problems, no one injured.
A M E R I C A
Mom, can I get a BB gun?
"No"
I was hoping you would say that. Would you mind if I brought in the mail for a few days?
😅
It's not a firearm
@@Texasmule It's an antique firearm or black powder it's still firearm it's just not modern But best believe if you didn't get one of the replacement cylinders and you got 1 that screws into the frame it would absolutely be a modern firearm
@@user-zh6sh8qv9k 6:25
@@Texasmule a krist conversion cylinder will make it a firearm Because you cannot pull the cylinder out it will be modified screwed into the frame no longer blackpowder cartridge gun now
Howell conversion cylinders and Taylor conversion cylinders can be removed Meaning you did not permanently alter the firearm either way you look at it it's still a firearm An antique black powder firearm the law just doesn't consider it a modern firearm meaning you don't need an FFL
-Owns two Colt Walkers
-Has them both out at the range for the sake of making a video
-Doesn't go cowboy akimbo
Shame on you, Brandon, shame on you...
Ive owned and fired Cap and Ball revolvers for years and personally like to hand roll my own disintegrating paper cartridges.
Using “ultra thin” cigarette rolling papers. The translucent ones as they burn away completely. The built in glue strip makes it easy to seal everything together.
The process is exactly the same as rolling civil war paper cartridges and hundreds of videos exist that can show it far better than I can explain.
When loading you have to poke a needle through each nipple hole to pierce the base of the paper.
Paper cartridges for cap and ball existed historically for these guns and even Colt produced a line of them.
On top of saving time on reloading there is a safety benefit of not having an accumulation of black powder around. All rounds are pre measured and can be separated into a standard plastic bullet case. An efficiency improvement that is also a safety improvement is a win win in my book.
“Finding someone who’s a little bit older, who’s been doing black powder for a long time”
Good thing they’re not doing white powder while using guns
Yeah, nitrocellulose isn't good for black powder guns.
@@zacharyrollick6169 you can actually mix modern smokeless with black powder to gain a bit of FPS but you have to be extremely careful.
@@madcapmagician6018 no joke
And then you have a guy in my current club that reloads with "cotton powder" or magic cotton or however it is called so can fire rifle rounds in a 15 yards indoor range...
Seriously, just the primmer and the case half filled with that magician's paper, then the lead bullet and done
@Alberto I think you are referring to "guncotton", or nitrocotton, which was used as an alternative to black powder, being relatively easy to make effectively as compared to black powder, also being a decent bit more powerful by volume than black powder, as well as burning significantly cleaner than black powder; Black powder you'd have to clean the bore about every 10 shots, at the most. While guncotton could potentially be shot around 50 times before cleaning. However, guncotton was also difficult to mass produce at the time, leading to it being expensive, and therefore impractical to use for the average person.
Considering the new ATF rules regarding gun "parts" as receivers, also "ghost guns," they may try to redefine the conversion cylinder itself as a firearm, subject to serialization and and all the red tape that goes along with that. The ATF is out of control and making new laws through broad interpretation. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that.
They aren't even making laws they're just enforcing their word as if it were law. That's the most egregious part of the whole thing.
AFT is digging their own grave. Eventually they will get shut down. Be it peaceful legislation or yeetation, they are destroying themselves
Only Congress can pass laws. Last time I checked I never elected anyone in the ATF. So if they want to pass laws then they'd better get their names onto ballots and run for office. Because that's how things work here.
Speak of the devil and he shall appear
@@MarioGarcia-pq9pr you don't have to go to a ffl so maybe not certain ones?
A buddy of mine actually owns a collection of early breach loaded “muskets” including an early Prussian needle rifle. They use a cartridge but are still considered “not a fire arm” because if you put a modern round into the breach it would…
Kentucky Ballistics
kaboom
If they ever ban guns, I can’t wait to see people, robbing stores with muskets
I move that we from now on call any type of gun related explosion, " doing a Kentucky"
The Kentucky award.
@@BlitzTheOissilent867I second this proposition
The 1847 colt walker, a legendary revolver that was considered a hand cannon, it weights 2 kilograms and fires a calibre of .44 lead ball, this gun was considered as the most powerful gun before the .44 Magnum.
Lucky me. I owned a firearm when I was 8 years old. Of course, that was way back when they had not yet made it against the law for an 8 year old to own a gun. It was a .22 caliber, bolt action, single shot rifle that my dad bought it in the late 1920's or early 1930's. Just before he went off to fight in WW2 he gave it to my grandfather, who gave it to me when I was 8. That rifle has put many rabbits and squirrels on the menu. Dad used it to help feed his family during the Great Depression and I did the same in the 1950's and 1960's. My home was robbed in 1992 and the police recovered everything but that rifle. Lucky me.
Damn thieves
What was probably a $20 piece of crack or a shot of heroin to the thief was much more than a firearm for you and your family. Some things can simply not be replaced. My father's .22 Winchester model 74 was stolen out of my uncle's truck in the late 1970s. He used that gun to hunt the same as your father for his family. My father also earned extra money trick shooting with that rifle as a kid and teenager. He could hit anything you threw in the air, dimes, pecans, marbles, anything from what my papaw and uncles used to tell me. I finally found an old model 74 and restored it to brand new condition and gave it to my father a few years before dementia set in. But it's just not the same as it would have been if our family still had that original Winchester.
A co-worker had his guns confiscated during a nasty divorce. After the divorce was resolved the cops had "lost" his guns. Later, over a period of 4 years several were found in the possession of several cops and upper city management, including the city manager.
@Ed Martin - Terrible to read about your loss of the family heirloom.
Please consider a few points. Even back when you were a boy, as an 8 or 9 year old, you did not legally "own" that rifle. It may have been gifted to you for your exclusive use, but it was still legally owned by your Dad, not by you. My understanding is that situation would still be exactly the same under current firearms regulations or even under almost all of the firearms restrictions that are being proposed. An 8 or 9 year old cannot buy a long rifle directly, but can have a long rifle, not just a single shot bolt action .22, and use it under adult supervision. I doubt very seriously that your Dad just handed you the .22 and told you to go out and shoot up things. He very likely gave you training in how to use the rifle safely for its intended purpose. Like you, I grew up in a household in which I had access to use both a .22 single shot bolt action rifle and a .410 single shot shotgun. But between my parents and Boy Scouts, I received far more training in their SAFE USE than I see many modern unrestricted gun ownership parents giving their kids today.
.22 single shot bolt action rifles, as well as single shot bolt action or small magazine semi-automatic rifles of any caliber, are not the firearms that are driving most calls for additional firearms regulations. In fact, the pistols shown by Brandon in the video are also not the firearms that are driving most calls for additional firearms regulations. It is disingenuous for those opposed to any kind of regulation of firearms to claim that they are. That is just as dishonest and misinformed position as are the uninformed views of some people calling for an outright ban on all firearms even though they know nothing about firearms other than the sensationalist crap they read in some media.
@@worldcitizenra there are approximately 20,000 laws on the books for firearms already, we do not need anymore. Proper education and training on firearms is a must. Those of the population that have diminished mental capacity or have other psychological problems do not need to own any type of firearm. Psychological evaluation needs to be added to the process for getting a license to own a firearm.
I have done further research and discovered that the 20,000 laws I referred to was roughly 20,000 bills referring to gun laws. My apologies for not doing further research before I commented. There are approximately 3,200 gun laws on the books.
It has been exactly 585 days since Brandon’s last episode covering black powder guns. The wait was well worth it. Except we needed more Hell on Wheels larping. We need a lot more of that.
Which btw the week that video came out i bought a colt navy and have been blowing money on more since
Potato Joe should not be playing with firearms. Let's not, Brandon.
More black powder and early cartridge firearms, please! 19th century guns are a fascinating period.
My recently deceased father (i miss him) actually had a youtube channel with a few black powder guns.
The early cartridge firearms are also black powder guns
lemat relover awesome
Black powder firearms, the only weapon that produced a complimentary smoke screen. ;)
Do you know of this YT channel called ''Capandball'' ? He has many vids of old weapons.. many. But he's not so funny as mister Brandon here : )
_"Cowboy loads"_
>Ram Ranch wants to know your location.
When I was a kid, I remember seeing ads for Black Powder Pistols and they cost next to nothing. I think Walmart used to have them in the sporting goods section.
I think it was duelist that said something about those old repro's being so poor quality they'd seldom even group (much less group well).
They cost more now, but the quality is infinitely better.
Conversion cylinders to allow cartridges to be loaded have been useful ever since the Rollin White patent of April 1855. Nice to see they’re still around.
That was the American patent. Europeans have used metallic cartridges longer. In the Civil War, the Confederacy and the Union shipped hundreds of thousands of pinfire Lefauchex-design revolvers.
The conversion cylinder with ejector rod cost more than the gun unfortunately
conversion cylinder is under firearm lincense :) when you want to buy the cartridge cylinder for your repro revolver to use your 45 Colt black powder loads you need to show firearm license in the shop :)
@@jurajokasa834 no? Atleaat not in the US Howell arms out of Wisconsin sells the conversion cylinders. The cylinder Brandon used is of Kenny Howells style.
The BATF considers the conversion cylinder a 'part' and not a regulated firearm in and of itslef
I bought a 45 long colt cylinder conversion for my 1858 remington army Uberti and it shipped unregulated
Lol I can just imagine it "HAVE AT YE AND HAND OVER THY WALLET"
"It was late one night, I was watching The Outlaw Josey Whales, I had my credit card out, shit happens." That accurately describes 90% of my online purchases.
As a convicted felon with multiple armed robbery charges, I appreciate this video very much!
Any convicted fellon can get modern weapons lol. Criminals will always have weapons.
😂
as a dude that can't own guns for mental reasons i appreciate this video very much too. nobody should be forced to be without a means to protect themselves.
As a convicted felon with mental problems, I appreciate this video. The only problem is I live in Florida and can't own this gem.
Fair warning, it's still armed robbery, even if you use an antique instead of a firearm. Yes, I know this comment was a joke. But I firmly believe that everyone who is not incarcerated should have the right to defend himself with the most effective tools available and the right to provide food for his family with the most effective tools available. Gun rights for all. If you're still a danger to society, you shouldn't be out yet.
I love the idea of people knowing about the lack of illegalities with these
But hate the idea of politicians finding out
Two things
lack of *illegalities**
And the damn politicians invented this horse shit while pretending to be busy doing something productive (which they never actually do)
Edit: Upon further reflection, it would seem that you have mistakenly used a double negative in your sentence. The proper phrasing would be;
"I love the idea of people knowing about the legality of these."
For a lack of illegality is, in fact, simply legality.
@@humphreybumblecuck5151 Ah yes, 100% correct. Fixed.
And I agree, but that sadly doesnt change the situation.
They really don’t care.
You never going to see these used in a mass shooting, so no one bothers.
@@charlespk2008 If there is pointless laws to be passed. Hollow virtueousness of how they've "made the world a better place by putting ink to paper that limits the rights of individuals.
Then there shall be useless politicians and empty headed activists with an eye to make the lives of those who value freedom, liberty, and the means to secure both endangered.
@@t.r2603
…you realize that is a two way street right?
Most of ‘the conservative dream’ has been tried and failed… *_catastrophically._*
The countries with strict gun laws tend to protect your Rights to Life quite well.
my dad made me shoot cap and ball for a full year before he allowed me to shoot anything else. made me worry more about accuracy since reloading was an ordeal.
When all you've got is 6, and then half a minute to reload, you're going to make 'em count. 🙂
I started on a bolt action .22. Same thing, reloading was time consuming enough to teach me to take careful shots.
When you start out with a percussion gun, moving onto a cartridge firearm is like taking a frickin' vacation.
I like to believe Brandon always has a few rounds of 7.62x39 and miscellaneous AK parts in his pockets.
So you basically want him to be Paul Harrel
@@lmfao5411 Paul Harrel's pockets are just portals to a pocket dimension.
well, i mean, who doesnt?
American gun laws are SO different to British. I had to hand my .177 air gun in because although it was legal , the police said it could be used for parts for something needing a licence
I live in an Eastern European country with pretty strict gun laws and even here the black powder revolvers are not considered firearms. I can literally order one to my house address right now and that's pretty wild.
U should get one guy!
@@K37-h1z I would if I wasn't living in a Balkan country where one Colt 1851 reproduction model costs 1/2 of an average monthly salary. And on top of that, I'm a broke ass unemployed college student. Maybe I'll get one if I lend a good seasonal job on this summer brotha
@@slavicemperor8279 At the point you might as well get a 3d printer and make an FGC9.
Any place with guns laws is a shithole.
@A I literally did find two M80 Zoljas covered under a camouflage net and placed under a surface root of a huge tree when I went to take a piss on a hike in the mountains. Both had a rocket inside of them but due to blue outline on the tube I'm suspecting they are inert training versions. I will probably contact the police about them soon and if they are indeed inert keep them as souvenirs.
I like how the "not firearm" has more fire than a regular firearm.
Well thats because of how Black Powered burns. Burns alot slower then modern gunpowder.
@SnackDestroyer Literally how the first skirmish tactics were developed
I know a dude that has a 50 cal air rifle that hits 1300 ft per second. It's fuckng wild
@@timothy3610 Yeah but the air rile pellets are a small piece of soft lead. I have one, but it's not 1300fps. Not quite as dangerous as a FMJ or the like, but still powerful.
And smoke! Don’t forget the smoke!
There’s a lot of firearms that fall under the antique exemption, even some that use “modern” smokeless centerfire ammo. They just need a receiver made before 1898. A lot of Finn Mosin’s, small ring Mauser’s and Enfield’s fall under this 🤘
Yep only repos made after 1898 have to be black powder. Though NFA items made before 1898 are still subject to NFA if they take commercially available cartridges.
Yessir!
First, that is NOT a Dragoon. There are four types of that specific pistol (OK, more like 1 Walker, and 3 Dragoons). The original Colt Walker, then 3 versions of a somewhat shorter and more reasonable pistol called the Colt Dragoon which have a few improvements like where the loading lever retaining clip lives.
Second, the easier Cap & Ball pistol to use with a conversion cylinder is the 1858 Army from Remington. Or their reproductions from Italy (Pietta, Uberti, or Pedersolli), which are all being built to this day. The 1858 Army works better as the cylinders can be removed from the pistol without any tools. You just lower the loading lever, pull the centerline pin forward, and roll the cylinder out the side. Putting in a new cylinder is just as easy. Roll it in from the side, center pin back in place, and lock the loading lever back up. Or a conversion cylinder can be loaded. I have a PIetta 1858 Army with a Kirst Konversion cylinder, chambered in .45 Auto. It does only use 5 shot cylinder, but that is for safety to keep the cylinder walls thick enough to contain a modern cartridge. There is a 6 slot, sort of. It is a safety notch you can rest the hammer on where there is no bullet because these guns have NO safety.
Victim of self: Darwin Award
Victim of Douche: Baldwin Award
I stand behind Alec Baldwin. I sure as hell wouldn't stand in front of him.
I came because of an interesting title, I stayed because this man is incredibly charismatic (and black powder guns are cool)!
Then I'm sure you'll stay, Brandon's the best!
I might not agree with everything he says but he is funny and makes great videos.
Right? Dude is extremely charming
Black powder small arms are really cool. But they are a pain in the butt to clean , especially the revolvers.
If you want my recommendation if you’re seriously considering carrying a black powder revolver, the 1858 New Armys would be a good pick in my opinion; their recommended loads are still within the ballpark of .45 ACP in terms of muzzle energy, and the cylinder is (more) easily swappable compared to other black powder revolvers.
Also due to its muzzle loading nature, you could potentially get away with loading some #2 Buckshot in there if you don’t feel like aiming all that much. It’s no harder than loading the standard .44 Ball after all.
The only caveat to this is that you *MUST* know how to reload in order to actually shoot a black powder of any kind (not “swapping mags” reload, “remake the bullet” reload), but that’s the same issue with any black powder revolver, not just the 1858.
remingotns are better! ;3
@UClFTk10abJJ9n2awhuSNbJA touch grass.
I really don't understand how y'all muricans need a derogation or paper to buy a weapon but you can buy ammo without anything like wtf. I would gladly owned a black powder conversion but you can't get ammo without tons of documentation and payement here in Europe so just not worth the trouble and we just buy a normal gun with all that paper work.
Or ... you could carry 12 of these !
this guy black powders.
That Outlaw Josey Wales impersonation was pretty spot on.
If the laws get changed to reclassify these pieces as firearms I'll blame YOU BRANDON!!
This just in,hot off the press:
Congress has reclassified firearm as anything that can propel a object far enough to main and/or kill. Also objects propelled are now classified as bullets and subject to state and federal regulations.😆
Thats what I'm saying.
"Be careful you're not smacking it around or you're gonna qualify for a Darwin award... or whoever's standing to the left of you will qualify for a Baldwin award"
This made me laugh way harder and longer then it had any right to.
I’m extremely happy you’re still around. Watched your destroy all humans play through in 2012-2013
I purchased my first black power revolver by mail from Cabela's when I was 15 or 16 (brass frame Navy model). I shot it so many times the damn thing broke and I got to learn to do an internal rebuild. Gave that one to a buddy before I left for the Marines in the early 90's. I got a new one about 20 years ago and still love black power. They are extremely accurate if you are consistent and precise with your loads. But even the brass Navy model is a heavy mother bear when you pack it on your hip all day in the mountains.
They have models with hardened steel frames with the brass trigger gaurd. Making it way more durable
Same. My dad ordered several black powder guns from Cabelas. We went to the family ranch and shot squirrels with them. Good times.
Don't be cheap, don't buy brass frames.
@@charlescalvert8647 I didn't get a brass frame because it's less expensive, I got it because of the aesthetics. I love the look and always will. I got a SAA with brass because I love the look so much!
I was testing out my brass framed one using the pyrodex pellets and on the 7th shot I just saw half fly forward while the other half just stayed on my hand 😂😂 I love that thing so I had to rebuild it.
Friend of mine's dad was a gunsmith, here in eastern Canada. He was also a range officer, he was really good to us.
Back in the early 2000's, a bunch of us threw in about $25 each & we all met at an outdoor range here in Nova Scotia. We had the range to ourselves, but there was about 12 of us, so we all got introduced to how every type of pistol worked. For most of us, it was obvious, but we all learned a little something, and of course, the range rules. He had almost every pistol type I ever heard of, and more. He pressed his own ammo except for a few store-bought rounds like 22LR and 44mag.
He stacked them from left to right on a picnic table, about 15 pistols, from .22LR to .44mag/.45 ACP and one treat for later, a percussion pistol - a replica of the Walker, I don't know if it was an 1847, it likely was - and it was .454, since I recall asking about the Casull 454, which one of the range members actually owned. Our group was diverse - mostly I.T. guys, some of them brought their girlfriends (brought mine the following week, she didn't care for it). Most of the older guys like me (I was 30 in 2000) had grown up with guns around - I owned a .22LR rifle and a break-barrel 12 gauge which I used to carry with me on my bicycle back in '82 where my friends & I would shoot stuff at a local garbage dump. My grandfather owned a 9mm Luger that his brother took from a Nazi he deleted in France in WW2. It was a crap gun but it worked, and it was a huge thrill for 12yr old me to shoot with a pistol! Canadian rules changed around '82 where you needed a gun license, but enforcement took a couple of years.
Back to the range, though - we all started with an 8-shot 22 revolver, a .38 revolver (police issue - most of us favored it), a .357 Python (I think everyone owned one back then, such a pretty gun, chrome of course), a beaten-up 1911 that misfired a lot but had a great kick to it - and of course, the quintessential Dirty Harry 44 Magnum.
I got to empty my trunk of soda cans.
He also brought a couple of rifles, a 308, a 7.62 Chinese AK (with a 30-rnd clip) and an old MP40 from WW2, full-auto but limited to 4rnds. His friend, still on the police force, had a beautiful Beretta 9mm in this ornate wooden box, and a silencer - surprised me, it was square - and silencers, even at the time, were illegal - but he was RCMP so who you gonna call, lol. He brought his kid with him, who had to have been 6yrs old or a small 7. The kid's ear protection were bigger than his head! Couldn't believe how lax things were. There was this really beat up old Mossberg 6-shot pump shotgun, and a beautiful auto-loader called the "FIE Spas" or something? Had a strange curvature on the folding stock. Fast as he could pull the trigger, that thing was a monster. I wanted one.
I was really confident after shooting a full cycle of every gun, and the RCMP officer at the range let my brother & I shoot the beretta, we shared a mag, and it was the first time I used a silenced pistol. Turns out silencers were always illegal, but all those pistols are a thing of the past here. Restricted licenses are really tough to get.
But the belle of the ball - a guy was into percussion pistols and muskets - black powder, and I thought, why not, I can handle the 44 magnum, what's the big deal. He walked around with these things in holsters & seemed like he had an ego prob, but he was super generous. The guy actually had a misfire while he was packing the powder down in his musket the next weekend, there was a guy downrange bitching about the holes in the steel targets from the hunting rifles who nearly dumped his drawers when this genius' musket went boom, straight up.
No one hurt, but the guy said it was from his using a metal rod rather than a wooden one to pack the powder & such. He looked through the trees nearby, but his "bore stick" or whatever it's called, was likely gone for good. We didn't have our hearing protection in, since someone was downrange & it was 'hands off' - though most guys were just reloading.
He showed me & a couple of other guys who stuck around how to load the percussion pistol - primer, powder, plastic/wax thing, then the ball. He showed how you put vaseline on the end of the loaded mag chamber so it doesn't ignite the other ones at the same time, etc. I gained respect for those who had to load these things in war. I thought, this was gonna be adorable, what is this, a glorified BB gun? I'm not naïve so I still prepped for a big bang - but holy HELL, you could fire a double barrel 44 Mag & not come close. The ball hit this dirt berm only maybe 30yrds away, with this giant thud that was almost sickening. Woe to anyone on the business end of that. I'd happily take a .308 at 2800 fps rather than a .454 musket ball going 1500 fps. I was the first to shoot it that day, my buddy told me the dirt at my feet sucked in, my pantlegs flapped wildly, and I was coughing from the smoke, struggling to hold the pistol pointing downrange while I hacked in the black smoke. I never saw muskets recoiling in the movies, forgetting that they're like 6ft long, so lesson learned!
Not only is that 1847 a firearm to me, but as much as people joke about old timey muskets, I think people need to realize the devastation those things cause.
If you live in NY, be aware that (as with everything gun related) there are applicable state laws to kill our fun. I'm not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice, but from what I understand from having read the applicable state laws, it's perfectly legal to buy these online and they can be shipped directly to your door, but to shoot them legally, they have to be added to your carry license. Specifically, under state law, they're considered "antique firearms" when they're unloaded and "antique firearms" are confusingly excluded from the definition of "firearm". Upon being loaded, or even by simultaneously possessing a muzzleloading handgun and the caps, powder, and projectiles that can be used to load them, they are then considered "loaded firearms". From my understanding, possessing a conversion cylinder allowing it to shoot modern .45 Colt seems to also turn it from an "antique firearm" into a "firearm".
If you have any interest in reading this state's idiotic laws on the topic for yourself, I suggest reading Article 265 of the NY Penal Law. Sections I've found to be relevant are 265.00 Definitions, paragraphs 3, 14, and 15, and 265.01(4) Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
Read a story a while ago where some guy was prosecuted and found guilty for having "Ammo" in his possession. What he had was projectile for his black powder rifle. A lump of lead. No powder .. Just the projectile. google Mark Witaschek
@@viewer762 I did the same. I had a Pietta replica Remington New Model Army as a wall hanger. When I got my license, I added it then bought a conversion cylinder and black powder supplies. It's a phenomenal shooter, even with its crappy sights.
Why on earth the supreme court doesn't just say, "nah brah, shall not be infringed, shit's all legal" is astonishing.
@@TheLurker1647 true that, when the supreme court ruled on banning convicted felons from possession in the disertation it was commented that "I think the founding fathers would approve", thats not true at all. Up intil the end of the 19th century If you had a fire arm on your person when you were arrested and sent to prison, they handed it back to you when you left. Our founding fathers during the revolutionary war, on occation, had paroled captured enemy troops and allowed them to leave with weapons on the signature pledge not to enter the war again as a combatant.
In my state, the state of Rhode Island, these are just one paragraph from legally being firearms under state law. However, bb/pellet guns are classified as firearms. Its why BB guns cannot he shipped here and if a felon has one they can be charged with illegal possession of a firearm. Black powder guns can be used by felons as they are considered "antique firearms" under the ATF definition which we use.
Firearms are defined as any machine gun, pistol, rifle, air rifle, air pistol, "blank gun," "BB gun," or other instrument from which steel or metal projectiles are propelled, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, except crossbows, recurve, compound, or longbows, and except instruments propelling projectiles which are designed or normally used for a primary purpose other than as a weapon. The frame or receiver of the weapon shall be construed as a firearm under the provisions of this section.
5:24 You heard it here, folks: the Walker is a .45 caliber gun. Sure, history books call it a .44 Army gun, but that's because folks in the old days were silly and measured bore caliber from land-to-land instead of groove-to-groove. In other words, they marked a gun's caliber _before_ cutting in the rifling.
The Walker is .449 when neasured land-to-land. Groove-to-groove, like a modern gun, it's .451 caliber. A foh-five.
yeah,But all the original revolvers from the 1860s called 44 calibre are 45 calibre including my original march 1863 new model army
You are correct in your assessment but technically the "bore" is always the land to land diameter, even though it has been corrupted in recent times and used incorrectly to mean the groove diameter.
Brandon id like to thank you being such an awesome creator ive had a rough last 3 years but you have made it soo much better
Hope things get better for you ❤️
Dude same
Its a Peschniter-Pfefferkhorne 1340 Gentleman's Blursed Pusket.
This video is like taking a history lesson while at the same time having a beer with your friend
I thought about getting one of these with a matching revolving carbine. But all my money has been going into Soviet made Parts kits and custom builds. I'm working on an AK patterned SMG using existing barrel, magazine and mag well, and a few other parts from the PPS-43 chambered in 7.62×25mm. I'd like to see you make a piston driven design with lock up. And a tad modernized with a dog leg dust cover, magpul M-Lock handguard, and some type of polymer telescopic or folding stock. You're by far my favorite guntuber. I wish you a long and happy(ish) future. Mikhail would be proud.
I feel bad the only comment you have is a sex bot.
@@alphacenturi5117 not anymore >:)
@@luckyswordsmen991 Great!
@@alphacenturi5117 ye
someone was arrested this year for importing parts kits, the atf is really cracking down on virtually every way to make your own firearms.
I love how Brandon can finally hit targets consistently! Good job buddy!!!
I have loved watching his pistol shooting and carry choice improve so much
Crocodile Dundee: "That's not a gun." *draws a Colt Walker* "THAT'S a gun."
Under Federal law, NO, black powder firearms are legally considered "antiques" and not legally firearms.
Under State laws, IT DEPENDS, on the state in question whether or not it's a firearm. So you need to be careful and research your state laws to know if your state considers black powder guns as firearms. In some states like New Jersey, buying a black powder firearm through the mail without going through an FFL is a ticket to 20 years in prison. Be very careful.
Meanwhile in Texas, Tennessee, and Alaska, you can buy black powder firearms over the counter at most sports shops. No questions asked.
also laws on possessing metallic cartridge ammunition, whilst it's not legally a firearm if you aren't legally allowed to possess firearms most states also don't allow the possession of ammunition, ik a felon who has an old webley revolver which isn't legally a firearm as pre 1899 but it is a cartridge revolver which in other states would be illegal for him to have the ammunition
In New York you can by the not a firearm as if it’s not a firearm. You just can’t own the means to shoot it. Speaking only about the pistols. Black powder rifles you can buy at the dollar store if you want. Well I mean if they sold them.
Ha, reminds me of when I was little and they just had muzzleloaders sitting on a shelf with the BB and pellet rifles at Walmart
Alaska law says anything capable of expelling a lethal projectile by way of explosive or similar means is a firearm. while you will not be subject to a nics, if you are a felon within the last 10 years and you are caught with a black powder concealable gun, you will get another felony charge or maybe it is a misdemeanor the first 2 times i forgot. Alaska says felons are not prohibited to own non concealable guns, meaining unless you are caught by the fbi or atf felons can own guns. the more you know
@@ambivalentonion2620 it is currently an american federal offense for prohibited persons to posses smokeless powder cartridge firearms or ammunition. meaning you can buy a gun pre 1898 say a mauser, but not be able to legally own the ammo for it. ridiculous if you ask me. the exception is, felons can own guns and ammo that are not "commercially available" ie wildcat ammo. it is hard to say what a court would do if the cops took you to jail on felon in possesion charges and then your defense would be let me out that gun was a 7mm-300 or something like that.
The ATF: Celebrating 61 years of making legal gun owners criminals, one mechanical feat of engineering at a time.
That Colt 1849 revolver is one of the cleanest original examples I've ever seen. Want to see a video on that now!
Probably a reproduction.
"Cap and ball torture" only thing i took away from this video
I keep meaning to get a blackpowder revolver, then forgetting, then Brandon thoughtfully reminds me... My wallet doesn't thank you, but I do.
The two first guns I ever bought were black powder. One a single shot pistol, and the other a 1860 Uberti Colt Army.
Most bkack powder guns sre cheaper than modern guns. My katest is 5 1/2 in Sheriff's model .44 cal.. it's a beauty!
The moment he converted that into a cartridge gun it became a firearm the definition of a firearm is how you load it it’s not because it’s Black powder or not black powder it is if it’s loaded with a pre-made cartridge it is a fire this guy’s gonna land a lot of people in jail
*Literally ordering a (black powder) revolver on the internet and having it delivered to your door is perfectly legal.*
I need to visit the states again.
You can’t buy black power online so you’ll still have to go find a store that will sell it or know someone.
You can order black powder mix kit, the charcoal and Kno3 has been ball-milled... Perfect for cap n ball pistols.
@@RaveN_EDM You absolutely CAN buy black powder and black powder substitutes online. You'd better buy more than 1 lbs at a time though, because shipping will cost as much as the powder. Same applies to percussion caps, if you can even find them.
@@cristianespinal9917 isn’t it illegal to ship black powder in mail? Nobody will ship to Hawaii.
@@RaveN_EDM ah, shipping to Hawaii or Alaska is a different story. In either of those two states, you pretty much have to find a store that sells it. I imagine that's easier in Alaska than Hawaii. Anywhere in CONUS, black powder can easily be shipped straight to your door. The only catch is you have to pay an extra HAZMAT shipping fee of like $20.
Maybe look into the black powder mix kits Seymore up there suggested.
You can legally have that shipped to your house without any form of I.D lol
thank you F.B.I agent
Don't shoot my dog. Please. He's a good boy
Login to the store site via facebook, pay with paypal, way to go anonymous! XD
Taking into account all the technology I sometimes wonder why do we even need all that explicit paperwork
Imagine getting shot by a 10 year old with a dragoon 😂 “I ordered this in the mail”
I’ll take 7, they’ll go along perfectly with my musket and powdered wig for home defense #AKGNotificationsquad
I could be wrong as old timey fashion has never been my strong suit, but I believe that would be an anachronism as powdered wigs largely fell out of fashion before cap and ball became common
@@michaelangelomaimone3181 regardless, the last thing any robber in my home will see is me wearing nothing but a plate carrier and powdered wig fixing a bayonet onto my musket
@@Geeksly8010 and 7 revolvers :) and if you’ve got the plate carrier then clearly you aren’t worried about anachronisms
Fun fact, This type of firearm is largely left alone by British lawmakers too. Primary reason that I'm looking at getting several of them.
Left alone? You need a firearms certificate and an explosives certificate to shoot them…
Edit: could actually just be an explosives certificate which is significantly harder to get than a shotgun certificate I believe.
Buy up your black powder and caps
"Largely left alone", as in, "Still considered a firearm and as strictly regulated as everything else". At least they didn't ban them like every other type of handgun. I have three and I think my firearms officer's brain exploded when I told him if they were originals and not repros I wouldn't have had to tell him I owned them... The system is a joke.
@@camd2677 I abhor the United Kingdom’s views on firearms, the ONLY thing they do right is suppressors lmao
@@camd2677 yeah, I know. At least you don't need to face fuck them like a regular pistol and you aren't restricted on caliber so at least that's something.
As I read the title, I quickly thought "that must be some law thing", I had no thought about clickbaiting.
Here in Switzerland it's in some points similar:
- Airguns are not guns, but "potential dangerous items" - as well as baseball bats or axes, machetes or so
- Any kind of muzzle loader (black powder, no cartrige) is considered as a gun, but it's totally license free to buy
- Bolt action rifles (many hunting rifles as well as the K31) are license free to buy, but You have to prove a clean background check.
- any kind of short weapons (except muzzle loaders and airguns) as well as any kind of semi auto rifle requires a license.
Out of curiosity do the black powder ones require a background check as well, since they're considered guns, or no?
Also is there an age restriction to buy airguns? Here in the states it's generally 18 y/o for those
I'm Swiss and I concur.
Is it true that in Switzerland everyone is required to own a gun or have one in their house?
@@johnpogany2444 those who serve in the Swiss Army can keep their firearm (SIG 550 rifle or SIG 220 Pistol) after military service.
@@SH1974 l thought so thanks
Always love that Brandon never fails too advice safety as much humor as he induces too many of these amazing videos
Around 30 years ago I had a buddy that was a felon/ served his time, and he could have a black power revolver because it was not considered a firearm ( this was in Kansas).
I am of the opinion that his rights should be fully restored upon completion of his parole/probation. We as a gun community NEED to work to get these laws changed locally and ESPECIALLY on the Federal level.
IN NYS ANYTHING THAT USES GUN POWDER AND PROJECTILE CANNOT BE IN POSSESSION OF A FELON. I GOT arrested and convicted
@@catdaddy3941I’m all for liberty and whatever, however, I think with a felony charge (certainly not a tame crime, generally) I think there is generally good reason to restrict certain people. We don’t know his specific charge so we can’t comment on the severity. I know he’d still be able to cause harm even with a black powder gun, but that sounds like just a legal loophole, similar to how you can legally pour out dozens of packs of water bottles in a store parking lot just to return them and make a profit. Not illegal but in a lot of situations, morally questionable.
@@Chris-hall9080 I think you’d be surprised at how tame a felony charge can be. For example, Martha Stewart is a felon and a prohibited person. Not all felonies are created equal which is why there are so many classes of them. A 5-year sentence shouldn’t have a lifetime attachment to it UNLESS it’s relevant. Just my $0.02 though.
I've spoke with a lot of felons and prohibited possessors who were able to buy cap and ball revolvers without having to submit to a background check. Many of them have also been able to purchase conversion cylinders, so they essentially now have a modern firearm. But I wonder how many of them let their probation officer know and got the okay.
I'm not a lawyer, but I asked one about it. When you put a conversion cylinder in a revolver like that, it becomes a firearm for as long as that conversion cylinder is in it.
Yea because it shoots regular case ammo not black powder anymore. 1968 gun control act defined black powder firearms as antiques.
Yes but federally you can manufacturer your own firearm, so it's allowed. Now if something prohibited you from owning a firearm, then it's an issue.
Also most non GCA laws consider them firearms still.
I'm sure that depends on what state you live in. In the People's Republic of Kalifornastan that pistol can only become a firearm if you alter the frame itself. Just using the conversation cylinder by itself isn't enough. If you cut a channel into the frame for loading and unloading it then becomes a "firearm". If you cut that channel into it in Kalifornastan it becomes a firearm and legally would need to be registered.
Last I checked, in Texas the second you put the cartridge conversion in, it becomes a firearm. (based on Texas Penal Code) But, if it is the standard black powder not converted, it is not a firearm and is legal to carry in a bar while Drinking lol
BTW, if you bought it online you missed the fun. I bought my 1861 navy revolver at Bass Pro Shop. The kid behind the counter pulled out form 4407 and asked me to fill it out. I responded "No, Im paying in cash" He looked confused and said "It does not matter how you pay" I responded "Ill give you cash, you give me the gun, and I walk out of the store with it. No forms, no paperwork. Just a simple transaction" and winked at him. He looked all nervous like I was asking him to break the law.
An older salesperson overhead the conversation. Walked up and did a look around like he was looking to see if anyone was listening. He then said "Ill handle it, hand me the cash" I gave it to him, he put the box and receipt into a paper bag, and handed it to me. Followed by him saying "Just keep it out of site tell you get in your car." The younger sales person was looking pale and a bit sweaty. It was all I could do to not laugh tell I got out to the car.
I served in the US Army I was stationed at Ft Hood TX my brother was stationed at Ft Bliss while on a 4 day pass to see him we went to the gun range on Ft Bliss it also had a bar same building I bought a WINCHESTER model 1200 shotgun while at a bar and under federal law is against the law figure that one out
That's hilarious.
My first home defense handgun was 'not a firearm', I was quite surprised when I learned that even in Commiefornia you could mail order these things. The single action is a bit slow compared to most modern firearms, but it's still a viable defensive tool.
"Lead; only causes cancer in California so we should be fine"! Lmfao omg that was great 🤣
The felon freedom stick. From the big house to the big iron... "Most self defense shootings need 6 or less bullets." 🤣
They’ll definitely work if it’s all you can get, it killed people 120+ years ago it’ll do the same now... pure soft lead tends to splatter no need for HP.
Big house to big iron lmaoo
The Walker was purpose-built to drop a horse (from bludgeoning, if need be...). So if you're being attacked by a half-dozen horses, you have bigger problems than draconian gun laws.
I would definitely agree on the fact that black powder can be sketchy. My dad has a coworker and his son who is around 18 had a small black powder cannon (much smaller than a pistol) and something went off when he was loading it or something and he almost lost an eye.......as far as i know he partially recovered his eyesight but not completely......definitely be cautious around these things.
If it was a reload after the first firing it could have been a hot ember in the barrel setting off the fresh powder charge. That's why military cannon doctrine dictated that the barrel was swabbed with a wet bore mop before reloading.
I've been shooting black powder most of my life, and the only time it's ever "sketchy" is when you don't know what you're doing. Every black powder accident I have ever seen has always been caused by some idiot doing something he/she shouldn't have been doing, such as loading smokeless powder into a black powder gun or reloading a black powder piece too soon after discharging the last shot or loading while smoking. If you follow the basic rules, you won't ever have an accident with black powder. It's as simple as that.
Awesome video for felons in bama. State laws are similar to federal laws. But not Georgia where bb guns are illegal for a felon to possess. Great advice to check local laws. Maybe a bit of advice on how to find that for Google ignorant folks or folks that are just slow on understanding legal terms, ECT. But I've been a felon for 10 years and have carried one EDC concealed for 8 years, I also have a snub barrel that's easily interchangable just slip wedge out and plug and play. Snub barrel didn't have the reach, so it's pretty up close and personal. It's a Traditions 1861 Navy. Guns of the West taught me everything I know about bp revolvers. I also hunt with an inline .50 cal. I will say it is sketchy and you need to learn everything you can about safety with it. With that single action, a NG is very easy and considering to load it, it has to be quarter cocked to load and when putting hammer back, it's super easy for an accident. Side note: I have had to use it for self defense. A guy road raged on me and upped a 9 on me and opened fire. I had my Colt on my hip and I over train often due to my antiquated not a gun, but I managed to not get hit on the first few of his rounds. Then one struck my foot. About that time I was returning fire and he took off running. I can only imagine what he thought as i upped my hand cannon of a pistol and started spitting fire and smoke in his direction. I left the scene and went to police station and told them I was second gunman on the grassy knoll. Most modern gun guys don't know anything about a BP gun or even how to load it. The police had to Google stuff and I was interrogated fiercely before returning my weapon and letting me go. My foot was fine after a couple months. The guy wasn't from around here. I was the one the police was looking at pressing charges against due to me having a not a gun that looked like a gun and me being a felon. And the modern gun guy stayed at the scene and told police that I ran him off by making contact with his car the road and initiated the conflict. However, it was caught on video. I was in the interagation room for hours and when the cop came in with three video he seemed so smug and came in with the cd smiling triumphantly. So smug that he said we can watch it together. I said awesome!! His confidence seemed to be dashed just a bit at my confidence. Plus they went out at looked at my plastic built Chevy Sonic and seen no wear or tear and knew he was lying then, but still held me for the video. Needless to say my wife was pretty confused and shocked when I got released and called her to recount my incident.
Also, one never knows how they will respond in any situation. One can train, one can guess, but over never really knows until the lead (at least my lead anyway lol) starts flying.
Also, never load 6 and put hammer on cap. Load 5 and rest hammer on empty nip. This is called a cowboy load cause back in the day when riding horses a NGs happened pretty easy riding bump and down on horse back. So if you carry this not a firearm for any amount of time, safety first load 5. Hmu if any questions. I'll answer. Great vid my guy. I don't subscribe to you but I will now. Ran across it googling some stuff and was surprised to see you with one. I'm in modern gun groups on fb cause one day I might be able to or have to use them and I don't want to start with 0 knowledge and be dumb with a weapon I've had 0 experience in when it comes time to grind. So I learn as much as possible and those groups talk about you often. I'm also in BP revolver groups and is an excellent source of knowledge. But like I said, Dustin at guns of the West taught me everything. Btw I stood sideways for that lil firefight. Less of a target box. I still didn't hit shit but return fire was enough this time. Distance was too great so imma go train some more. And my mistake way to much powder. I thought more equals more power. I was wrong, it didn't all burn up. Y'all stay safe and armed best you can.
I found it endlessly amusing that I had a 50 cal muzzleloader rifle for hunting shipped right to my door. It takes about 30 seconds to load and is deadly enough to take down basically anything in the woods. Only thing thats annoying is how hard they are to clean and keep clean.
Use hot water. Wipe dry then oil. Use natural oils like lard or bore butter.. makes it easy
Brandon: This looks like a gun fires like a gun. but its not a gun.
The AFT: "Our chance, to change Another Law"
to see it from the other side, an airline confiscated a child's toy fart gun, because it was a "gun".
I had literally used this as an argument an hour ago. Black powder doesn't require background checks
Yes but felons can’t posses black powder
Yeah but it makes sense... You aren't going to get a shooter using a black powder antique
The laws can vary by state, so be careful
Neither do private purchases in most states.
@@lorenzocasanova444 I might be wrong on this but I believe it’s a federal law. Therefore it applies to all of the USA
In Virginia a prohibited person is allowed to own an antique black powder revolver since a law change in 2017. However that same bill expressly prohibits them from owning the cartridge conversion. Make sure you know the laws in your jurisdiction. Many states prohibit felons from owning any weapon that fires a projectile by means of explosion. As was the wording in Virginia prior to 2017. Which does include black powder.
Brandon ain't capping folks.... He's ballin. Love the content Brandon. Much love from Ireland. Where I can only be teased by your videos till I can move to texas. Irish gun laws are absolute crap.
I mean he is technically "capnballin" here just not modernly
Come to Texas partner! We welcome you with open arms especially if you love freedom 😂
Yeah because why would Ireland want their citizens to be able to defend themselves, it’s not like they border a country with a heavy history for imperialism that has already taken a northern chunk of their country, sparking a long ass conflict between some masked paramilitary force and the British Army.
@@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot3267 Two paramilitary groups.
@@dustynutz4982 I'm very glad to here that brother. I love freedom and I love America. And call me cheesy as shit but I really am a massive patriot. Rock on man
The history of the cartridge conversions is kinda fun, as essentially it was just a way for Colt and Remington to move old inventory after the onset of cartridge shooting guns.
It's honestly my favouritie period of gun history. This period of insanely rapid firearms innovation, where we were shoehorning existing guns to keep up with modern cartridge technology because they simply couldn't manufacter enough guns.
This is a modern sort of "cheating" cartridge conversion pistol. The original Richards and Richards Mason conversion simply had a bore-through cylinder and a makeshift ejector rod attached to the side of the barrel. Really cool and unique guns.
Joke's on you, Brandon. In Canada, that's not only a firearm, that's restricted as heavily as a Glock!
Flintlock rifles*, though...
*Note: Flintlock pistols are also considered restricted firearms in Canada.
If you're in Canada, I'd say the joke's on you.
They're called Cacucks for a reason
Yiu guys get no registration sbs though... i wanta 9in barrel 870!
This doesn't classify as a firearm in canada either. Canadian tires used to sell kits that lets you build ond yourself... until it went out if stock.
It's not a firearm, it's Alec Baldwins special anti camera person device
r/killthecameraman
too soon
Hi Brandon. I am 16 years old and would just like to thank you for what you do. You have taught me alot about fire arms and inspired me to get into the gun industry. Thanks again #akgnotificationsquad
Well glad this isn't a firearm. Anyone can own antiques including felons.
@@tonysudano778
In the USA, Not necessarily so. Such varies on what state you live in. It behooves everyone to research the laws where they live and travel to.
@@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV You see I live in South Africa and it isn't classified as a firearm here either
@@adolphkruger7386
Interesting as a few years ago I read that was changed?
If not than that is good.
@@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV As far as I know they it's still the same
When I lived in NY, you needed a pistol permit to shoot a black powder pistol…but no permit was required to own one 🤔🧐
i live in western NY and its still the same. im pretty sure you have to add it to your permit if you intend to shoot anything other than blanks
Baldwin blanks 🤔
Throw shit at your state capitol building till they submit to your will.
As far as I know, you need no permit if you never intend to fire it. Once you have the bullets, powders, and primers it becomes a pistol and must be added to your permit.
@@joebednar6269 NY is bull on its laws.