@@Kluee if you're asking for clarification- the only time I've seen a gun that rusty was in every restoration video. Every restoration video. Every, single restoration video.
@@billdanosky perhaps, the only reason you would see a rusted gun in a restoration video, is because if they were unrusted, they would not need to be restored.
Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for clearing that up. Gorilla Glue is amazing. I restored 2 completely broken stocks that were broken at the wrist. If you didn't look very closely you'd never have seen the joints. Were you using oxalic acid on the rusted steel parts?
That one's a keeper! My grandpa had one just like it but sold it in a garage sale for $25 when I was a kid. He told me that he didn't need it anymore because he bought an 870. Luckily, I got the 870, but I sure wish I had that 1897!
SWEET! I was expecting a before and after but not a firing test! Exceptionally cool! I'm glad you kept so much of the original character of the piece. Reconditioned but still looks old. Very nice!
the last 97 winchester pump was made in mid 1957 if u idjuts looked this stuff up before making yr selfs look like dufues u d be better off i have 5 of them one made in 1904
You realise these "restoration" channels will deliberately age these weapons for content right? This guy has mistreated this relic just to bring it back to how it was
More like a very serious cleaning than a restoration. But I'm glad it wasnt polished or anything. That old weathered and pitted look gives it that nostalgic look especially with these old west guns.
It is. Its a Winchester Model 1897. Even had the heat shield/bayonet lug, though he didn’t do any kind of refinishing of that part, unfortunately. Yeah, my favorite shotgun too.
I have my grandfathers 1890’s Belgian made Model 12 12 Gauge Automatic Shotgun. It has been taken Great Care of over the last century and shoots as good today as when it was new.
Intentionally Rusted/ Then this guy "Saves this Shot gun" 90% of these comments are praising this dude for fixing something he caused and was untruthful about.
when i was young (in the 70's) an old timer would hand you one of these to see you tear the hide off your thumb when pumped,, it just takes once to learn how to hold one of these knuckle busters properly,,, nice video!
Great video. When i was a kid in the early 80's, we had a small gun shop in my town, and they had an original 1897 pump wWinchester with a bayonet. They used to let me hold it, and it is still one of my favorite weapons. The late 1800's to the early 1900's was such an interesting time in weapons development.
First off, the Winchester model 1897 is not an easy to tackle when healthy,,,but bless you for breathing life back into this ol shotgun. My dad gave me 2, a 32" full and a 20" cyl. I've had them since i was 12. They are not for everyone.
How nerve wracking was that first test shot is what I'd like to know lol. Honest to God, my new favorite channel obsession. Remarkable work here, truly an art
I occasionally receive guns that are badly rusted because they were left in a damp case or picked out of a lake. In every case they had deep pitting. Your gun looks like it has very light pitting. Looks like it was left in the rain for a few days and has lots of surface rust. Very seldom do I see a uniform coating of rust. Still fun to watch.
Great entertaining video, funciotionally it works, but from a non-professional perspective, I missed some polishing to make it shiny and easier to sline by reducing the friction
I miss my Winchester 97. first gun I ever bought. paid 200$ for it while I was camping out in rural Oregon, found it at an antique store. was a solid-frame first year gun, long barrel, full taper choke bore. someone had painted the pump grip some sort of grey, but the stock was still pretty. I cleaned and re-stained the pump grip on a picnic table while camping out in the high desert grassland. ended up using it to drive off a mountain lion during my stay there.
Beautiful work. Those were carried by many Marines in World War One, the Philippines, and Nicaragua. In WW2, Marines on point carried this weapon or a Thompson Machine gun. Even in The Dominican republic, and Vietnam, The Marines carried these for a time. The Germans in WW1 actually had the gall to complain ( they were the first to use mustard and phosgene gas in artillery shells!) About the shotgun, as you could clear a trench very quickly.
Excellent video. Anti-freeze works very well. It does not lose its shape after drying. Axe handles - it'll tighten those up with the same effect also. Best!
1897s were made well into the 1950s. I have shot hundreds of round thru mine. They were well made guns. early 16 gauge had a short chamber tho. 4those you would not shoot modern shells thru.
My gripe with these type's of videos isn't the fact that MOST are fake its that people don't do a shoot test after the restore as if they don't trust they're own work
During the restoration process i write about bayonet lug "this is not an original part of riffle" is added by a gunsmith in the past for fraud the original owner. This is definely a riot gun not a trench gun.
Looks like totally natural wear to me it was definitely left outside or where moisture was like a cellar or basement possibly. Can't wait to see the results.
Less than a minute into this video and i had to go the the safe, get my 1897 and show her how she will never be treated like this.....shes a queen and deserves the best care and maintenance....by the way, my stock has a smaller chip in the exact same spot. Unfortunately, I dont have the chip.
This video just makes me so sad. Such a beautiful, iconic Winchester shotgun just left to rot. My dad owns two 1897 shotguns. A long barrel, and a short barrel one like this one. I'm 49, I started hunting with my dad's 1897 when I was 12. Many a squirrel hit the ground after that old girl sounded off in my day. We put them to bed years ago. One of the greatest shotguns ever made in my opinion.
I just found an antique, muzzle loading, pistol, in remarkable shape. Only mild rust on the barrel seems to be the only issue with it. I found it in an old barn where nobody has lived on the property since I have lived in my house, 2003. Since it was inside a beat up feed container, it did not get wet. I look forward to trying it out.
So many flaws and things done incorrectly here in this video leads me to doubt a single thing this guy does. Right down to his crystal clear and clean finger nail bed to the lack of wounds to his hands or even cracked skin with dirt imbedded in his skin. I have NEVER met a gun restoration who did not have very dirty stained man hands. This kid looks like he just set down a novel and thought to himself ya know what, gun restoration will get alot of likes and subs. I'll make some videos and see how it goes. One thing is for sure, with the number of errors this guy makes doing resto there is not a chance this guy is a legit restoration expert. Probably his Dad or Grandpa's work he takes credit for. To bad.
To be honest I'm really not that into guns but I could watch this channel all day. Hell I'm putting off a list of several things I need to get done just to watch this one!
My question is did someone pay him to fix this gun up? Or does he fix them up and sell them? Or is this just a hobby and he keeps the guns? Or... all three?
you HAVE to put the heat sheild and bayo lug back on, thats the coolest part about this gun!! this is one on my short list of needed guns that ill probably never get.
I write in the subtitles during the restoration. The heatshield cover and bayonet lug, is added for fraud the last owner, this gun's was sell for trenchgun, but this is a riot gun, and riot gun dont have any heatshield.
@@restaurato6629 i keep subtitles turned off, its too distracting for my brain to not read them, then i miss the video. and theres a difference between a replica and a fraud, you can still have the trench gum look as long as you dont try to sell it at an inflated price by calling it something other than what it is. 👍👍
Do either of u have a recommendation on a brand of punches I have mid 50’s auto 5 that was found in a junk yard but the pin through the bolt I can’t seem to get it out and bent and broke 2 grace punches soaked several times sprayed with just about everything I can think of but next set of punches I buy I’m going to get 2 sets first I’m going to try and putting the gun in a press and attach something to one of the punches to make it more stable and try to press the pin out but need a really good punch
@@Sockmonkey5600 keep soaking in kroil and make sure not to go too hard. Sonic cleaner might help break it up. Big thing is you don't want to stipple the pin in place by beating on it too hard. As for punches, I can't remember the brand off hand but they're replaceable pins so if you break one just unscrew the cap and replace the pin. You'll have to look around for those though. Sorry couldn't be of better help. Restorations are difficult because of stuck parts.
You did an excellent job at restoring that! The original condition that you got it in at that point it would have been just wall art but restoring it to complete working order that's amazing! Most other people would have not have done that most would have tossed it or as I said previously, wall art.
This gun was most likely a hunting gun that someone converted on their own into an homage to a riot gun. At 10:22 you can see the barrel stamped "FULL", meaning that the barrel originally had a a full choke and was 28" or 30" long. The barrel was subsequently shortened to 20" during its conversion. While some hunting guns were converted to riot guns at the Winchester factory, these all had "XXXX" stamped over the "FULL" marking and "CYL" stamped underneath, indicating "cylinder bore". This gun does not have that marking.
Why all these negative comments why dose it matter how it got fucked up it’s being restored from the rusted state back to being operational and looks much better than it did before.
My Grandfather owned a gunshop and he'd buy peoples used guns even the rusty ones to fix up, so ive handled lots of firearms that are in rough shape IE rusted through a natural process of time and improper storage... Anyway the guns in this guys videos all have the hallmarks of intentional forced patina. You can just tell when something is real, its hard to explain. But the tell is that its a perfectly even layer of active orange rust that is thin and has not pitted or eaten into the metal. This tells me its recent and also deliberate. Whole guns rarely rust at the same rate, like the tip of the barrel or grip or highpoint surfaces will go first. My assumption is he takes a firearm in probably fair to decent condition, uses vinegar or other chemical agent to strip the bluing to bare metal, then dunks the whole gun in salt water and leaves it outside under the sun for a week. Winchester riot 1897s (in the description he says its a regular model that he added the shield to so its not a real valuable trenchgun) average in the USA around $500-900 depending on condition. IDK where he is located. But you may ask this is wasteful right? But think about it; he got 4.5 MILLION views in less than 3 months on this video alone. He has nearly 1 million subscribers. He has made, by conservative estimates, $45,000 from google ad revenue off this video alone. But probably several times that much. Not counting his other videos, donations, sponsorships, etc. With minimal filming/editing work and a $500 dollar upfront investment and a few hours of his time. This guy is a fucking genius. A deceitful genius, but genius none the less.
Screws all coming out in one piece is another way to tell that the item has been rapidly corroded recently for the vid, if something was realy fucked up and had been corroded over time those screws would be strippin threads breaking heads and being an absolute pain to get out
Because of the bayonet stud on the barrel it looks more like the shotguns the US military purchased for World War I in 1917....sometimes referred to as a "Trench Gun" because these were great in the treches.
Hello i have an advice for you, if you take two sheet of copper on you'r vice you can hold every pieces of metal without risk of scratch and twist you'r pieces.
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Beautifull gun, the bayonet holder and grill are collectables on their own. I would advise though to let a professional gunsmith restore this gun. Professionaly restored, you are looking at a 6.000 to 8.000 dollar gun.
Great restoration of a classic firearm. I've done some restoration, mostly stock work. I think using urethane glue is overkill. With a cracked stock (not completely broken off) I spread the crack a little and apply Elmer's wood glue, then blow it into the crack. I worked in surgery, and that's the longest piece of Penrose drain you used to secure the separate piece. I use Esmarch bandages for the same purpose. The key to preventing it from splitting again is to slightly adjust the bedding.
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not a freaking chance
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I've watched a ton of these restoration videos. I'd really like to see one on how they rust them up first.
fax another ruined piece for what content?
@@Kluee if you're asking for clarification- the only time I've seen a gun that rusty was in every restoration video. Every restoration video. Every, single restoration video.
@@billdanosky perhaps, the only reason you would see a rusted gun in a restoration video, is because if they were unrusted, they would not need to be restored.
@@billdanoskywell if they were nice and clean they probably wouldn’t need to be restored huh? You’re brilliant 😂
@@gnarcotics_ I just proved this point in the reply above, but I guess your the smartest, genius.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this has the look of a reasonably well preserved gun that was artificially weathered.
Hmm I don’t thank but just my take on looking how hard everything was on the break down of shotgun
I’m sorry, but you MUST refinish the heat shield and re-install it on the weapon.
Heat shield is not original part. Is added for fraud the last owner. This is a riot gun not a trench gun.
@@restaurato6629 thanks
Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for clearing that up.
Gorilla Glue is amazing. I restored 2 completely broken stocks that were broken at the wrist. If you didn't look very closely you'd never have seen the joints.
Were you using oxalic acid on the rusted steel parts?
Agree 100%
Just thinking the same thing.
No annoying back ground music ✅
Straight to the point ✅
ASMR (debatatble) ✅
10/10 video i loved the sounds
I own one of this exact model! Passed down by my grandfather's grandfather. Really cool to see one bright back to life.
I do love firearms maintenance, but restoration is another level. As an Ordnanceman, this makes me happy to watch. Great work!
That one's a keeper! My grandpa had one just like it but sold it in a garage sale for $25 when I was a kid. He told me that he didn't need it anymore because he bought an 870. Luckily, I got the 870, but I sure wish I had that 1897!
SWEET! I was expecting a before and after but not a firing test! Exceptionally cool! I'm glad you kept so much of the original character of the piece. Reconditioned but still looks old. Very nice!
That and the model 12 and ithica 37 are the three best shotguns ever made. Beautiful work
126 years old and yet it looks so impossibly modern !!! I really love the way you've retained the original patina !!!
the last 97 winchester pump was made in mid 1957 if u idjuts looked this stuff up before making yr selfs look like dufues u d be better off i have 5 of them one made in 1904
im fully convinced that 90% of these channels oxidize and rust weapons in a matter of a week just to make content videos
Really it's a 1897 they were used in WW1.
He's saying OP is artificially aging the items for the sake of their video...
@@killbeers6890 exactly.
@@robertfandel9442 steel wool in the barrel, also wood NEVER LOOKS this clean after a supposed 100 years of being exposed to the weathering
That UA-cam money is to sweet.
I WISH I could find one in that shape..nice restoration!
As the inventor of this weapon, I am proud that it continues to be restored to this day. Greetings
It makes me sick when I see old things like this neglected and trashed…makes me happy to see someone putting in the time 😊
You realise these "restoration" channels will deliberately age these weapons for content right? This guy has mistreated this relic just to bring it back to how it was
More like a very serious cleaning than a restoration. But I'm glad it wasnt polished or anything. That old weathered and pitted look gives it that nostalgic look especially with these old west guns.
126 year old shotgun still getting it done. R.I.P Mr. Browning, your designs are timeless.
It's probably more like a 26 year old shotgun as it's a riot gun that's been made to look like a trench gun
Glad to see you got your channel back. Thank you for this amazing work. 🇧🇷
Reminds me of a trench shotgun, that’s my favourite shotgun
It is... Might be wrong but pretty sure it is..
edit:just checked and yes this IS a trench shotgun
It is. Its a Winchester Model 1897. Even had the heat shield/bayonet lug, though he didn’t do any kind of refinishing of that part, unfortunately. Yeah, my favorite shotgun too.
That is the trench gun. Iconic
@@Hath.0 indeed
You bet it reminds you a trench gun.... It is a Winchester 1897 trench gun ! I'd like to have one !
Surgical band on the stock repair is top notch use of things laying around.
As a gunsmith who has refinished countless guns I like the way you did that it maintains the Integrity of the Piece
What an incredible result! A highly skilled, clever restoration - truly outstanding work!
I have my grandfathers 1890’s Belgian made Model 12 12 Gauge Automatic Shotgun. It has been taken Great Care of over the last century and shoots as good today as when it was new.
hope it stays within your family forever
Intentionally Rusted/ Then this guy "Saves this Shot gun" 90% of these comments are praising this dude for fixing something he caused and was untruthful about.
Who cares HOW it got rusty. We're watching a restoration
@@antoinejackson4311 "who care" ?? Really ?...
those who love the truth :)
Hahahahahahahah if this is what I did, I’d mess up a lot of things just to fix them. Fuck is your point
when i was young (in the 70's) an old timer would hand you one of these to see you tear the hide off your thumb when pumped,, it just takes once to learn how to hold one of these knuckle busters properly,,, nice video!
Great video. When i was a kid in the early 80's, we had a small gun shop in my town, and they had an original 1897 pump wWinchester with a bayonet. They used to let me hold it, and it is still one of my favorite weapons. The late 1800's to the early 1900's was such an interesting time in weapons development.
Honestly, thank you for not putting music
Deliberately aged weapon, was it left in salt water for a couple weeks before this video?
My thoughts, it's rust is off.
More than likely.
@@france_stoneshore2150 It's almost the same kind of rust that was on this bloke's Spas12 video. Man's just destroying historic relics, no shame.
Man those rusty screws sure did come out easy
First off, the Winchester model 1897 is not an easy to tackle when healthy,,,but bless you for breathing life back into this ol shotgun. My dad gave me 2, a 32" full and a 20" cyl. I've had them since i was 12. They are not for everyone.
How nerve wracking was that first test shot is what I'd like to know lol. Honest to God, my new favorite channel obsession. Remarkable work here, truly an art
BallisticBackyard is simply better.
I occasionally receive guns that are badly rusted because they were left in a damp case or picked out of a lake. In every case they had deep pitting. Your gun looks like it has very light pitting. Looks like it was left in the rain for a few days and has lots of surface rust. Very seldom do I see a uniform coating of rust. Still fun to watch.
Yes most of these videos restoration pieces man-made to look super old
ah yes. My favorite kind of wood: rusted.
Ong
Great entertaining video, funciotionally it works, but from a non-professional perspective, I missed some polishing to make it shiny and easier to sline by reducing the friction
The restoration is impressive. What's more impressive is how he puts it back together!
I miss my Winchester 97. first gun I ever bought. paid 200$ for it while I was camping out in rural Oregon, found it at an antique store. was a solid-frame first year gun, long barrel, full taper choke bore. someone had painted the pump grip some sort of grey, but the stock was still pretty. I cleaned and re-stained the pump grip on a picnic table while camping out in the high desert grassland. ended up using it to drive off a mountain lion during my stay there.
Brother soft jaws for your vice please 🥹🥹🥹
Great restoration Glad you got your soft jaws out Phew
Looks great 👍 👏👏👏
Thanks I've been looking for this, now I can replace the real one with it in the Spencer Mansion
Nicely done! I liked the shroud on there, had that Trench Gun aesthetic, but looks good.
Would have nice to see the kind of fluids used for the various stages. Good job on making it serviceable again. Looks and functions great now.
The best pump ever made in the world!!! This weapon was rolled in the mud and dust during the war so it was functional again!!!
Amazing how this old gun has no pitting whatsoever lmao
I really liked that you chose to leave off the after market vent hand guard. 👍😎
how do u know its after market check ur history ww 1 ww2 korea viet nam these guns where there being used
I had one just like this. I inherited it from my grandpa. It looked brand new. He took great care of his firearms.
Beautiful work. Those were carried by many Marines in World War One, the Philippines, and Nicaragua. In WW2, Marines on point carried this weapon or a Thompson Machine gun. Even in The Dominican republic, and Vietnam, The Marines carried these for a time. The Germans in WW1 actually had the gall to complain ( they were the first to use mustard and phosgene gas in artillery shells!) About the shotgun, as you could clear a trench very quickly.
At least it wasn't a real trench gun. Trench guns were not takedown models, they had fixed barrels...
Old ruined Winchester turned into a restored ruined Winchester
Dang, how long did you let this one sit outside before making the video?
Beautiful restoration. I love my 1897 shotgun. Got it for like 250 dollars in 2018.
Excellent video. Anti-freeze works very well. It does not lose its shape after drying. Axe handles - it'll tighten those up with the same effect also.
Best!
Call it what it is a good cleaning and simple repair
I have a a 1897. It was my grandfather’s. It’s in pretty good shape. Don’t know that I would want to run modern shells through it however.
1897s were made well into the 1950s. I have shot hundreds of round thru mine. They were well made guns. early 16 gauge had a short chamber tho. 4those you would not shoot modern shells thru.
dubble 0 buck works great in them
That steel wool did a lot more than I thought it would
Probs cos it's a fake resto job. The gun isn't from that period, and the rust is due to being soaked in salt water for a week.
I want to go on like this to restore so bad I am going to do a ton of magnet fishing this year hopefully I find one. Definitely on my bucket list.
I can't believe this ancient artifact still works awesomely. Excellent restoration job. Look at it in action after 120 years. Old but gold.
My gripe with these type's of videos isn't the fact that MOST are fake its that people don't do a shoot test after the restore as if they don't trust they're own work
I still have my Grandfather's 1897 to this day.
Me too! Still shoots, take it out every once in a while, run some lite bird shot thru it.
The old rusty appearance on this looks rather "fresh" and fabricated !
Yeah fresh rust. Lmao
Most of these videos are using intentionally " rusty" items. It is obvous
You did such a great job with this restoration, You restored it. well also making sure it still look as if it was properly aged ❤
THIS IS REAL CRAFT ART It's wonderful to watch and it totally relaxes me. Super
Enjoyed your work saving history instead of destroying it
I hope you clean and reinstall the bayonet mount and heat shield. They are original military issue and are quite rare and valuable.
That’s what I thought.
During the restoration process i write about bayonet lug "this is not an original part of riffle" is added by a gunsmith in the past for fraud the original owner. This is definely a riot gun not a trench gun.
Great job, Congratulations!!!
Looks like totally natural wear to me it was definitely left outside or where moisture was like a cellar or basement possibly. Can't wait to see the results.
If I could have any hobby I would do this. Seems so satisfying! I wouldn’t even know where to start
Less than a minute into this video and i had to go the the safe, get my 1897 and show her how she will never be treated like this.....shes a queen and deserves the best care and maintenance....by the way, my stock has a smaller chip in the exact same spot. Unfortunately, I dont have the chip.
So rusty but one spray of lubricant and everything comes apart. That's called self made rust.
This video just makes me so sad. Such a beautiful, iconic Winchester shotgun just left to rot. My dad owns two 1897 shotguns. A long barrel, and a short barrel one like this one. I'm 49, I started hunting with my dad's 1897 when I was 12. Many a squirrel hit the ground after that old girl sounded off in my day. We put them to bed years ago. One of the greatest shotguns ever made in my opinion.
Old and ruined?? That was in amazing condition
I just found an antique, muzzle loading, pistol, in remarkable shape. Only mild rust on the barrel seems to be the only issue with it. I found it in an old barn where nobody has lived on the property since I have lived in my house, 2003. Since it was inside a beat up feed container, it did not get wet. I look forward to trying it out.
nice fake restoration what a shame you had to destroy that gun simply to make fake content
I’ve never seen so many old rusty guns in my life. How long does it take to let a good gun rust?
So many flaws and things done incorrectly here in this video leads me to doubt a single thing this guy does. Right down to his crystal clear and clean finger nail bed to the lack of wounds to his hands or even cracked skin with dirt imbedded in his skin. I have NEVER met a gun restoration who did not have very dirty stained man hands. This kid looks like he just set down a novel and thought to himself ya know what, gun restoration will get alot of likes and subs. I'll make some videos and see how it goes. One thing is for sure, with the number of errors this guy makes doing resto there is not a chance this guy is a legit restoration expert. Probably his Dad or Grandpa's work he takes credit for. To bad.
Your attention to detail is absolutely amazing
To be honest I'm really not that into guns but I could watch this channel all day. Hell I'm putting off a list of several things I need to get done just to watch this one!
Me too.
My question is did someone pay him to fix this gun up? Or does he fix them up and sell them? Or is this just a hobby and he keeps the guns? Or... all three?
@@brianshaker1885 my guess is all three.
At 37 seconds you can read Winchester on barrel as he disassembles it. For his $$$ I hope it is real. Nice Job!
you HAVE to put the heat sheild and bayo lug back on, thats the coolest part about this gun!! this is one on my short list of needed guns that ill probably never get.
I write in the subtitles during the restoration. The heatshield cover and bayonet lug, is added for fraud the last owner, this gun's was sell for trenchgun, but this is a riot gun, and riot gun dont have any heatshield.
@@restaurato6629 i keep subtitles turned off, its too distracting for my brain to not read them, then i miss the video.
and theres a difference between a replica and a fraud, you can still have the trench gum look as long as you dont try to sell it at an inflated price by calling it something other than what it is. 👍👍
Narration (or subtitles) explaining the chemicals being used would be a huge improvement.
As a gunsmith, watching your restorations is therapy for me 😌😌
Same here ..I look for the nastiest, rusted guns at auctions and pawn shops to restore and collect.
@@damiansmith5322 good practice too! 👍🏻
Do either of u have a recommendation on a brand of punches I have mid 50’s auto 5 that was found in a junk yard but the pin through the bolt I can’t seem to get it out and bent and broke 2 grace punches soaked several times sprayed with just about everything I can think of but next set of punches I buy I’m going to get 2 sets first I’m going to try and putting the gun in a press and attach something to one of the punches to make it more stable and try to press the pin out but need a really good punch
@@Sockmonkey5600 keep soaking in kroil and make sure not to go too hard. Sonic cleaner might help break it up. Big thing is you don't want to stipple the pin in place by beating on it too hard.
As for punches, I can't remember the brand off hand but they're replaceable pins so if you break one just unscrew the cap and replace the pin. You'll have to look around for those though. Sorry couldn't be of better help. Restorations are difficult because of stuck parts.
You did an excellent job at restoring that! The original condition that you got it in at that point it would have been just wall art but restoring it to complete working order that's amazing! Most other people would have not have done that most would have tossed it or as I said previously, wall art.
This gun was most likely a hunting gun that someone converted on their own into an homage to a riot gun. At 10:22 you can see the barrel stamped "FULL", meaning that the barrel originally had a a full choke and was 28" or 30" long. The barrel was subsequently shortened to 20" during its conversion. While some hunting guns were converted to riot guns at the Winchester factory, these all had "XXXX" stamped over the "FULL" marking and "CYL" stamped underneath, indicating "cylinder bore". This gun does not have that marking.
Why all these negative comments why dose it matter how it got fucked up it’s being restored from the rusted state back to being operational and looks much better than it did before.
Are all these weapons artificially rusted for this channel
What do you think?
Absolutely
My Grandfather owned a gunshop and he'd buy peoples used guns even the rusty ones to fix up, so ive handled lots of firearms that are in rough shape IE rusted through a natural process of time and improper storage... Anyway the guns in this guys videos all have the hallmarks of intentional forced patina. You can just tell when something is real, its hard to explain. But the tell is that its a perfectly even layer of active orange rust that is thin and has not pitted or eaten into the metal. This tells me its recent and also deliberate. Whole guns rarely rust at the same rate, like the tip of the barrel or grip or highpoint surfaces will go first.
My assumption is he takes a firearm in probably fair to decent condition, uses vinegar or other chemical agent to strip the bluing to bare metal, then dunks the whole gun in salt water and leaves it outside under the sun for a week. Winchester riot 1897s (in the description he says its a regular model that he added the shield to so its not a real valuable trenchgun) average in the USA around $500-900 depending on condition. IDK where he is located. But you may ask this is wasteful right? But think about it; he got 4.5 MILLION views in less than 3 months on this video alone. He has nearly 1 million subscribers. He has made, by conservative estimates, $45,000 from google ad revenue off this video alone. But probably several times that much. Not counting his other videos, donations, sponsorships, etc. With minimal filming/editing work and a $500 dollar upfront investment and a few hours of his time. This guy is a fucking genius. A deceitful genius, but genius none the less.
I have been saying that for a long time it looks like they were all put into a shake and bake bag
You restored it *AND* fired it.
Respect++
Seeing one of my favorite shotguns getting fixed is wonderful to my eyes
Screws all coming out in one piece is another way to tell that the item has been rapidly corroded recently for the vid, if something was realy fucked up and had been corroded over time those screws would be strippin threads breaking heads and being an absolute pain to get out
Because of the bayonet stud on the barrel it looks more like the shotguns the US military purchased for World War I in 1917....sometimes referred to as a "Trench Gun" because these were great in the treches.
Glass bead blasting cabinet. Buy one!!! Grinding bench with buffer and wire brush attachments. Buy that also.
Bro your giving realy bad suggestions both those tool leave a bad finish and this is valued more when it reapaired like this not completely restored
@@FrFr224 have you ever used a bead blasting cabinet. We use them on engine internals.....
Hello i have an advice for you, if you take two sheet of copper on you'r vice you can hold every pieces of metal without risk of scratch and twist you'r pieces.
I have rubber clamps... you can see the alluminum support
The slide action at the end was beautiful 😍
Когда смотрю подобные видео, вспоминаю, как приводил в чувства мотоцикл Восход 2м, мотоцикл моего дяди, о котором все на 40 лет забыли. Теперь он стоит рядом моей Ямаха ТДМ 850-1 у меня во дворе!
I really enjoyed this
Beautifull gun, the bayonet holder and grill are collectables on their own. I would advise though to let a professional gunsmith restore this gun. Professionaly restored, you are looking at a 6.000 to 8.000 dollar gun.
How long did you presumably soak that in a vat of chemicals…in your garage before bringing it out and passing it off as it is…?
Great restoration of a classic firearm. I've done some restoration, mostly stock work. I think using urethane glue is overkill. With a cracked stock (not completely broken off) I spread the crack a little and apply Elmer's wood glue, then blow it into the crack. I worked in surgery, and that's the longest piece of Penrose drain you used to secure the separate piece. I use Esmarch bandages for the same purpose. The key to preventing it from splitting again is to slightly adjust the bedding.
I live the patina that you left on the gun. It took over a hundred years to get that. Very pretty weapon
You're the guy we need after the collapse to keep those guns pristine..
This should be in the ASMR category 😊😊😊
Looks a lot better, but I would have gone a bit further to polish up some of the moving parts to improve reliability. Good work though.
That's one of my favorite shotguns! Great job!